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Speaker 1: I am all In.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in podcast, one on

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Speaker 1: one Interview, one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Susanne French. Hello Suzanne, and we are

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Elizabeth Abbott. Elizabeth, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Let me get into a little bit

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Speaker 1: of who you are and what you're about. You portrayed

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Speaker 1: Rosemary four episodes and Rosemary is one of the ladies

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Speaker 1: who hangs out with Finn Life of Death Brigade. You

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Speaker 1: were an actress for best known for this role and

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Speaker 1: also for making a few TV appearances Young and Restless

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Speaker 1: and I Carly no longer acting. But you're a licensed

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Speaker 1: marriage and Family therapist, a master level psychotherapist who work

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Speaker 1: with adults and teens who are dealing with mental health issues, relationships,

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Speaker 1: or life transitions. How fascinating. Welcome to the podcast. So

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Speaker 1: great to have you, Elizabeth. First off, tell us how

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Speaker 1: you first got the role on Gilmore.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for having me. This

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Speaker 3: is really fun. So I had been in LA for

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Speaker 3: just a couple of years, and had done a bunch

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Speaker 3: we were just, you know, grinding all the auditions as

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Speaker 3: one does. And when the audition for Gilmore Girls just

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Speaker 3: came up, and I wanted it so badly, and I

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Speaker 3: had to act so cool, like I didn't want it

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Speaker 3: that badly, but I really wanted it. Was it ended

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Speaker 3: up being my first TV job.

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Speaker 1: You were smart. You were smart, Sorry, but you were

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Speaker 1: smart to act that like you didn't want it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that shows that you understand the psychology in that

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Speaker 1: that works against you if you want it too badly.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I played it. I played it so cool.

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Speaker 4: So you were already familiar with the show when you auditioned.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was a fan of the show. It

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Speaker 3: had debuted when I was in college, and my my

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Speaker 3: mom is a single mom, divorced mom. I'm an only daughter,

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Speaker 3: and so it's sort of it was sort of our show.

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Speaker 3: She would this like dates me, but she would tape

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Speaker 3: the episodes on VHS tapes and either mail them to

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Speaker 3: me at college or or she just saved them up

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Speaker 3: for when we had watched together when I would be

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. Did you know that it

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Speaker 1: would be a recurring role when you when you booked

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Speaker 1: that first one.

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Speaker 3: Nope, Uh, it was supposed to be just a co star,

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Speaker 3: and then they just the next one was a guest star,

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Speaker 3: and they just kept bringing us back. And I felt like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I won the latto every time because it

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so what was it like working with Alexis Bdell?

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Speaker 3: Alexis was lovely. I was so nervous that the first uh,

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Speaker 3: I mean the first scene that we filmed was in

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Speaker 3: the Chinese restaurant. I don't know if you remember, but uh,

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Speaker 3: and it was Alexis and Matt Zukri and Alan and

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Speaker 3: and of course Ricky Lyndholm. Ricky and I were always together,

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Speaker 3: and uh, they had all filmed, I mean so much together,

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Speaker 1: Yes, Finn was always trying to get with your character

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Speaker 1: wasn't he he was.

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Speaker 3: There was a there was a point where I think

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Speaker 1: So when was the last time you watched an actual episode?

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Speaker 3: Well, I revisited an episode last night in preparation for

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Speaker 3: a while, and I was like, what what was that?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: It's really fun, it's really fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: And remember, do you get recognized for role?

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Speaker 3: I don't get recognized, you know, randomly on the street,

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Speaker 3: but in the work that I do now as a therapist.

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Speaker 3: So many people have this show as their comfort show

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Speaker 1: Right right, right right?

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Speaker 3: You know, I had one client several years ago who

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Speaker 3: you know, season's five and six are going to see

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Speaker 3: me pomp up. We can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Or not whatever, but yeah, that's fascinating. We're going to

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of stories about that as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I meet people. Yeah, so did you lie? Did

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Speaker 1: you see the episodes in Netflix? The episodes? Do you

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Speaker 1: like how they brought the Life and Death Brigade back?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: The new ones? I have to admit I didn't watch them.

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Speaker 3: I haven't watched them yet because I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I loved my experience in seasons five and six so

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Speaker 3: to let it be what it was. Sure, maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: And you did a few more TV gigs with Young

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Speaker 1: and the rest as I Carly, When did you decide

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Speaker 3: I had, you know, as an actor, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: But I had a lot of time where I needed

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Speaker 3: I had gone back to grad school, was doing that

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Speaker 3: You need a lot of therapy when you're an actress

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Speaker 3: tried to stuggle both for a while. I was doing

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Speaker 1: Was there was there a moment for you that you

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Speaker 1: recall that were you made that decision to leave acting.

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Speaker 1: Was it a specific incident, was it just a moment

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I ever made the decision to

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Speaker 3: So I feel like it was less leaving acting and

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Speaker 3: more finding psychotherapy, finding this other passion right and.

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Speaker 1: And and why you say you were in therapy. You

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Speaker 1: LA Why did you seek therapy If I'm not getting

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm biased. I think that everyone should have

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Actually I actually feel the same way. I think everybody

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Speaker 3: You know, it was it was a time of a

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Speaker 3: lot of changes, a lot of transitions, also coping with

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: And I just it felt so well. And you know,

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Speaker 3: there's always like family of origin stuff as well. You know,

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Speaker 3: we've all got our stuff. So it was just such

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Speaker 3: an enormously healing and supportive space for me. For several

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Speaker 1: All Right, So you get your bachelor's in science and

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Speaker 1: your master's in psychology. When did your interest in mental

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Speaker 3: I think, well, I had always been a theater kid,

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Speaker 3: and acting and psychology are not at all, not at

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Speaker 3: you're you're thinking about why this character is the way

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Speaker 3: you know, already thinking that way through the acting training.

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Speaker 1: Yes, in the training that you draw up a psychological

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Speaker 1: you've experienced every actor experiences this. How do you take

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Speaker 3: For me? It was always had to get back into

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Speaker 1: So what happens to the actor that is isolated away

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what what what weren't.

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Speaker 1: What kind of uh, what kind of issues would that

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Speaker 1: Oh god, what would they be facing? What dangers could

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it could get really dangerous. Loneliness is I

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Speaker 3: I'm working with actors and artists. So for me, it's

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Speaker 3: about building a community of supportive, present individuals, whether that's

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Speaker 3: through face time, calls back home, or whether that's debriefing

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Speaker 4: Going back to your own experience, do you have any

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Speaker 1: We're going to play a little game called rapid fire.

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Speaker 1: Why? Go ahead? Sorry, go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Talk about a couple who needed to talk and to

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Speaker 3: But also, you know, she had a lot of pride.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk?

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Speaker 1: Who would you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane?

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Speaker 1: I would you rather attend a daar event with Emily

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Speaker 1: Back, huh something in your life. You are all in.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, Elizabeth. It has been an intense pleasure talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with your practice.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll see you back on the boards as

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Speaker 1: it were, inhabiting another role. But it was a pleasure

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Speaker 1: talk and you getting to tell you a little bit

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Speaker 1: and sharing your thoughts on your experiences on Gilmore Girls.

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Speaker 1: All you too, Thank.

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Speaker 5: You, hey everybody, and to forget.

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Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.