Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Sean Merriman A one hand effect.
Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom out go to light. This is Lights
Speaker 1: Out with Sean Merriman. Yo. What's up, guys. We're back
Speaker 1: again with the Lights Out podcast with me, Shawn Merriman.
Speaker 1: And the feedback has been amazing. Uh. The first episode
Speaker 1: we did with my former teammate Quentin Jammer talking about
Speaker 1: mental health, some of the problems in the necessary steps
Speaker 1: in order to get back on your feet. Uh. And
Speaker 1: the feedback has been amazing, so I appreciate that. But
Speaker 1: today we got one of my former teammates, my brother,
Speaker 1: my college teammate University of Maryland term squad, Vernon Davis, Mr.
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars Vernon Davis. Uh. And we're talking
Speaker 1: about some of the injuries that's happened this past week,
Speaker 1: and it's been catastrophic. I don't think we've seen anything
Speaker 1: like this in the National Football League in a very,
Speaker 1: very long time. And the question for me has always
Speaker 1: been this, does the preseason have something to do with it?
Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of less preseason games,
Speaker 1: maybe two at the most, but having no preseason games
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with the injuries just piled
Speaker 1: up the A C L injuries that killing injury injuries
Speaker 1: or is just is this football? We're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis about that a little bit, uh and see
Speaker 1: what impact No Wall season have on some of these injuries.
Speaker 1: But also too, we're gonna talk to him about the
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. I can't wait, man, Uh A
Speaker 1: lot better than me. Anyway, let's get it. Yo. You've
Speaker 1: been like all over the place. It's been crazy, uh
Speaker 1: seeing you on Dance with the Stars. And somebody asked
Speaker 1: me the other day, they said, yo, you see your
Speaker 1: boy Vernon? When they first announced it, they said, do
Speaker 1: you see your boy Vernon on Dance with the Stars.
Speaker 1: I said yeah. They said, how do you How do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna do? I said, yo, if it
Speaker 1: is anything like he running a seven route, he probably
Speaker 1: gonna win that day. How are you feeling, man? I
Speaker 1: feel good, Man, I feel good. No complaints. UM, putting
Speaker 1: a lot of work in. I'm learning the dancing is
Speaker 1: a it's a lot of dedication, man, just like football.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's going really well. You know What's
Speaker 1: what's crazy about that? So long time ago, some years ago, Um,
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan. I wanted to go see him while he
Speaker 1: was on set and I was back there in his
Speaker 1: trailer and I just want to stop by and say
Speaker 1: what up to him? I've seen him in a while.
Speaker 1: And he looked at me. He just kind of he mean,
Speaker 1: he looked tired. I said, Yo, what's up man? You good?
Speaker 1: He said, Sean, let me tell you these awesome real hours.
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? He said, he was
Speaker 1: there that day alone for like six hours practicing. Is
Speaker 1: how how crazy has that been? Because he didn't go
Speaker 1: into details, but how crazy has it been? Uh, practicing
Speaker 1: for that? Yeah, it's it's it's extremely crazy. It's like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's foreign to me because I've never had a dancing
Speaker 1: background and I don't know anything about dances. So when
Speaker 1: you get these new sequences, sequences, you have to learn
Speaker 1: them within a week. So you're, you know, as you know,
Speaker 1: how we play football, we don't have our stuff together.
Speaker 1: We're kind of going panic mode. So it's it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of that and just those hours, like you said,
Speaker 1: those those hours, four to six hours a week, and
Speaker 1: when you're in that studio, man, you're just going back
Speaker 1: and you're you're going through as fertine that you're going back,
Speaker 1: you're doing it again, You're doing it again. So it's
Speaker 1: like you're constantly on your feet and your legs are
Speaker 1: extremely tired, and you just you want to get off
Speaker 1: your feet, man, and get rest. That's all I don't
Speaker 1: want to do is get some rest. What's what's been
Speaker 1: like the hardest part so far? Um? Is it? Is it?
Speaker 1: Learning routine? Is it? Um? Like? What's what's the hardest part?
Speaker 1: Just to pick up that? There's been kind of like
Speaker 1: the most difficult so far. I would say the posture, uh, um,
Speaker 1: the gestures that you make with your hands and your arms,
Speaker 1: that's extremely hard because you can get if you get
Speaker 1: the routine, you got it, But then trying to hang
Speaker 1: on and remember those different gestures that you have to
Speaker 1: make within those routines. It's just it's tough, man, extremely tough.
Speaker 1: So years ago, like right when I retired, my publicist
Speaker 1: at the time had said my name came up with
Speaker 1: Dance with the Stars, and she said should I submit you?
Speaker 1: And I said, hell Na, you know me like you
Speaker 1: know I just because for me, like straight like straight
Speaker 1: hand had put such a fear in me in those
Speaker 1: hours right, like you know, I mean, like I don't
Speaker 1: mind putting in a time, but like normally when you
Speaker 1: put in that much time, like I want to be
Speaker 1: good at something. That's so like that's the reason why
Speaker 1: don't play golf. I don't play golf because I know
Speaker 1: people who have been playing golf for ten fifteen years
Speaker 1: and still suck. They're not good. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: if I go and i'm if, I'm if I'm doing
Speaker 1: this for four to six hours a day and I'm
Speaker 1: doing this over and over again, I still suck. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pissed. That's a good way to look
Speaker 1: at it. I never thought anything like that. You're right,
Speaker 1: but like you look good man, like I was. I
Speaker 1: was talking to some of the boys. I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: did you see Verne the other day? I said, talk,
Speaker 1: he looks he looks good man like you came out
Speaker 1: the gate and I was like, man, I thought that, um,
Speaker 1: you have something happened with the devoting on the point
Speaker 1: of something right. And initially, like early on m yeah,
Speaker 1: they said her leg and hit the ground, and they
Speaker 1: give us a few other tips. But you know, all
Speaker 1: that stuff we were working on and when we're rehearsals.
Speaker 1: But like I said, you those little things that you
Speaker 1: work on. Man, if you if you're not a dancing
Speaker 1: you don't got it. It's kind of a foreign to you.
Speaker 1: It's gonna you're gonna kind of revert back to it,
Speaker 1: and it's just one of those things that you just
Speaker 1: have to get over time with with some of the
Speaker 1: similarities man in um kind of the mindset, right, because
Speaker 1: every everything that I do, even out of football now,
Speaker 1: I try to look at, Okay, how how can I
Speaker 1: take whatever I learned on the field and during my
Speaker 1: course of of playing football and translated to something else,
Speaker 1: Like what are some of the similarities you see and
Speaker 1: being in the youth what you learned on the field
Speaker 1: now to to doing what you're doing now with Dance
Speaker 1: with the Stars. I think just uh, just putting the
Speaker 1: time in that hard work and dedication kind of like
Speaker 1: what you're doing, you're having that religless approach to be successful.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing with with anything in life. Man,
Speaker 1: if you if you have a good work ethic, you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna excel in anything that you do. Everything
Speaker 1: that you touch is going to prosper because there's there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of people that can have that same work.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot they don't want to put in
Speaker 1: the work, the time, uh, that it takes to be
Speaker 1: really good at something. So like I said, if you
Speaker 1: if you have that, if you're one of those guys
Speaker 1: that we want to Field was the last one to
Speaker 1: lead and always working on the on the craft and
Speaker 1: working on the little things, you're gonna put that whatever
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing, you're gonna be successful. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny you said that, man, because you know, we
Speaker 1: both grew up in the same area, PG County, and
Speaker 1: then you grew up in Washington, d C. Right now,
Speaker 1: right down the street. And I always say this, man,
Speaker 1: like when we grew up and how we grew up,
Speaker 1: that it puts something in you that we're not losing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like our work ethic and
Speaker 1: our approach to certain things. We we have a different
Speaker 1: outlook on life, man, and we take everything we do
Speaker 1: serious because of where we came from, and that that
Speaker 1: starts when you're younger and your upbringing and what you
Speaker 1: had to do in order to get there. Man. So
Speaker 1: just you know, kind of talk about that because I
Speaker 1: tell people all the time, like Man Vernon, we grew
Speaker 1: up like fifteen fifteen, twenty minutes apart, and you know,
Speaker 1: meet knowing your family, knowing when you grew up and
Speaker 1: knowing knowing you since you were like what fifteen fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 1: like you know, uh in high school? Um? What has
Speaker 1: that done to uh? To have the approach and mindset
Speaker 1: and and some of the things you're doing now. And
Speaker 1: it's not just you know, dance with the stars, it's
Speaker 1: you know, the movies you shot. You just shot a
Speaker 1: movie and some of the other things you got going on. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think like you said, growing up when we grew
Speaker 1: up PG CAT, the d M, b DC, Maryland and Virginia. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just during that time, especially us with with with
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six years old, during that during that time,
Speaker 1: it was tough. You know where we came up from
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. It was we had a lot of negative
Speaker 1: influences in our lives and we had to those those
Speaker 1: challenge of times and make it to where we are
Speaker 1: in to day. And believe it or not, we all
Speaker 1: have things that are broken in our home. Right. You
Speaker 1: have broken from your from a family perspective. I had
Speaker 1: things that were broken, but those things are they equipped
Speaker 1: us with everything that we need in order to go
Speaker 1: out and be successful. You know, every time everything that
Speaker 1: you do from the podcast to business, you think about
Speaker 1: those things that you've been through and you put them
Speaker 1: into what you're doing that because you don't want to
Speaker 1: go back to that. You don't want to see that.
Speaker 1: You don't go back to that because if you if
Speaker 1: you did, and it catalyzed us to two different heights.
Speaker 1: And that's what I love about the past. And and
Speaker 1: you know, just the culture of how we grew up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I always say that, man, that I don't have
Speaker 1: a whole lot of fears in my life because what
Speaker 1: we've been through and what we grew up, because we've
Speaker 1: already seen it. We've already seen some of the worst
Speaker 1: circumstances you can possibly see. So I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of fear. I would say one of my biggest
Speaker 1: fears is going back man, like you know, being in
Speaker 1: a position to to lose it all or being a
Speaker 1: position to um expose yourself to those circumstances the game, man,
Speaker 1: I'm and and that that's why my hustle and you know,
Speaker 1: even though you're so far from it, you just can't
Speaker 1: see yourself being back in those situations. Um, and it's
Speaker 1: it's why they're daily grind. Man's why you know, wake
Speaker 1: up the sixth clock and to wake up six thirty
Speaker 1: am and just roll out of bed and you want
Speaker 1: to go because that's the only speed you got. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree that, yeah, yeah, And there so one one
Speaker 1: another thing. I'm not gonna let you off hooked man.
Speaker 1: And I tell people all the time, I said, dude,
Speaker 1: me and Vernon has some of the most classic battles
Speaker 1: in college. Uh, it was practice practice for me. When
Speaker 1: me and you was going one on one all the
Speaker 1: time was worse than the games. You know, mean because
Speaker 1: we're do the one on one past coverage and I
Speaker 1: had to run with you in those damn seven routes.
Speaker 1: If you took off and ran a nine router or
Speaker 1: fly straight down the field. I'm like, dude, you had
Speaker 1: to be on your horses every single day. And I'll
Speaker 1: turn around and we go one on one pass Rusty
Speaker 1: and I'm going against steffon high and I'm like, listen.
Speaker 1: When I got to league, people say all the time, like,
Speaker 1: how did you come out, rookie defense, rookie in all
Speaker 1: this side. I said, dude, listen, you don't have any idea.
Speaker 1: I was going against Vernon Davis every single day, and man,
Speaker 1: that just that that just made you better. And by
Speaker 1: the time you got to the game, it was easy. Man.
Speaker 1: You talked about making you better. Man, you knocking me
Speaker 1: on my tailbone probably twenty times a day. I had
Speaker 1: to keep getting them. But I would laugh, bat because
Speaker 1: everybody did. Practice would stopped. Your practice would literally stop.
Speaker 1: When when man, you start going one of the ones,
Speaker 1: and people were just watched because and I would look
Speaker 1: outside the gate and you had some of the students
Speaker 1: like lining up outside the gate trying to look to
Speaker 1: that little green thing they had blocking the fence, whatever
Speaker 1: hole they can find, and watch y'all one of once. Man,
Speaker 1: And I just I wish that one of these days
Speaker 1: I can go back and just get some of that footage.
Speaker 1: And I said, dude, this this happened every single day
Speaker 1: of the week. It was just straight up competition all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was, man. It
Speaker 1: made me better though. Man. When I got big, man,
Speaker 1: I was ready for every anything. I was ready for anything. Man.
Speaker 1: It was it was great. Hey, hey, speaking of the league, man,
Speaker 1: I know you've been crazy with the you know, the
Speaker 1: practicing and really what you're doing now in the movies
Speaker 1: and everything else. But as far as the NFL, this
Speaker 1: weekend do was was one of one of the biggest
Speaker 1: weeks we've ever seen. This many injuries. Um, you had
Speaker 1: like Nick Bosa going down, Anthony Barr went down, Say
Speaker 1: Kawan Barkley went down. Um Sutton wide receiver for Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos went down. All these guys went down with season
Speaker 1: ending knee injuries. And you know somebody who I know
Speaker 1: who works crazy hard on the off season, right, I
Speaker 1: mean your your workouts has been crazy since the day
Speaker 1: I met you, since you were in high school. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell people now until this day that, uh, the
Speaker 1: most freakis athlete that I played with and and got
Speaker 1: a chance to see. Do you think that the priest
Speaker 1: and that having no preseason games have effects on these
Speaker 1: injuries guys getting hurt because there were no preseason games.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I already knew what it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: We all knew what it was gonna be. You know
Speaker 1: you It's it's one of those things, Sean, And I
Speaker 1: tell everyone so when I was playing ball, I didn't
Speaker 1: really I never really felt like I needed to go
Speaker 1: into off season training with the team, even though I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of the team and get
Speaker 1: to consivate the relationship with the guys. But I it
Speaker 1: was something about being able to go in and show
Speaker 1: the coaches to hey, I know how to work, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was always a great on
Speaker 1: them that you know, you don't need to hold my
Speaker 1: hand anymore. But then there's a lot of guys. It's
Speaker 1: probably of the guys that don't really do that, you know.
Speaker 1: Um and I know it sounds it sounds crazy, but
Speaker 1: when you take away all season training things that are
Speaker 1: mandatory for guys, right then you create you you you
Speaker 1: you put them in a place too to uh never
Speaker 1: susceptible to more injuries because they haven't been getting the
Speaker 1: proper treatment from the trainers or or they're they're not
Speaker 1: held accountable, um like they will usually be right like
Speaker 1: in the past, because they're free to do whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do. So now guys go in not stretching
Speaker 1: the way they't only stretch, not having proper nutrition, not
Speaker 1: um seeing a cowproc then getting and seeing a massage there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a business man. I tell all the
Speaker 1: young guys all the time, they said, they used to
Speaker 1: ask me all time, how how do you make it?
Speaker 1: Fourteen years and you get You've got better? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like your your average yards per
Speaker 1: catcher has gotten better. I was like, look, man, what
Speaker 1: you do. You have to do it all the time.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this. I've been doing since I was
Speaker 1: since I was a rookie companist league. I gave my
Speaker 1: massage is three times a week. I said, the cow
Speaker 1: practice twice a week. I've not asked to be and
Speaker 1: I eat properly, and it's just the way to go.
Speaker 1: Now everybody was doing that. We would see all these
Speaker 1: injes Yeah, you know I agree with that, man, And
Speaker 1: I always said that, Um, I feel that you didn't
Speaker 1: need four preseason game. I felt like you need to
Speaker 1: mainly for the younger guys and to get your time
Speaker 1: and change your possession, making sure guys when it's when
Speaker 1: it's time to substitute, coming on and off the field,
Speaker 1: the little things to get everybody right and keep everybody
Speaker 1: on the same page. But four preseason games always felt
Speaker 1: it wasn't really wasn't really needed, um because for one,
Speaker 1: it's just after you got out of your second third year.
Speaker 1: To me, it always looked at as a waste of time.
Speaker 1: You know, most most vets. In the last preseason game,
Speaker 1: you only playing one series anyway, seven to nine plays,
Speaker 1: so you gotta get up and get ready, the same routine,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but you're only going out there for
Speaker 1: seven plays. So mentally you're like, you're not even really
Speaker 1: getting up like you want to for the game because
Speaker 1: as soon as you get your motor going, you gotta
Speaker 1: shut it back down. So I always felt you needed
Speaker 1: two prices games. I didn't. I didn't think that it
Speaker 1: was going to be all that great having no preseason
Speaker 1: games and on top of that, no joint practices, because
Speaker 1: it's one thing to practice or work out in the
Speaker 1: all season, and it's another thing to have real live
Speaker 1: game speed. So you know, just I just wanted because
Speaker 1: you work out, go, you go crazy to jem. I
Speaker 1: mean you you're you're on the field all the time
Speaker 1: and running roused from practicing, but that game speed is
Speaker 1: something different. That's to me, that's why I think we're
Speaker 1: seeing some of these injuries. Yeah, you're right, it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely different. Yeah, you know, I look at I
Speaker 1: look at some of these injuries, and um, you never
Speaker 1: had you never had any real big injuries right out
Speaker 1: now that I remember, right, you know, I don't think you.
Speaker 1: I never had surgery since I ever, which is another
Speaker 1: just freak thing that's just crazy to me. And still
Speaker 1: to this it's crazy to me, man, for the smight
Speaker 1: of the work like that with no damn juries. Now
Speaker 1: I'm lightweight, jealous and not and not really shocked, but
Speaker 1: it's just crazy just you know this, previous athletes like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Man, it's crazy too when I
Speaker 1: think about it. Man, I've never been put to sleep.
Speaker 1: I've never been cut on. I mean I just oh man,
Speaker 1: I just never. And so what do you what do
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna happen? Uh this year? Any any
Speaker 1: chance you get in the back around the game, because
Speaker 1: I know you got you have the movies going on.
Speaker 1: You just what the movies just came out of wh
Speaker 1: use the shot? Right? Yeah? I shot two movies. Um,
Speaker 1: I got picked up by BT hurt for film and
Speaker 1: actually I supposed we shouldn't moving on the same director
Speaker 1: called me. Um, she liked my working bt, so she
Speaker 1: called me how to do her movie The Rich and
Speaker 1: the Ruthless out here in l A. And it all
Speaker 1: worked out right in Birdbank. So I'm like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: take it. So I'm just I just begetting calls and
Speaker 1: just you know, just putting stuff together from a content standpoint,
Speaker 1: and uh, it has been great, man, Just working the craft,
Speaker 1: just understand who's and um, just how to be an actor.
Speaker 1: You know. It's uh, it's crazy you said that because
Speaker 1: we were talking about that, like why we were playing.
Speaker 1: Remember we were talking about being able to get in
Speaker 1: the film. Um, you know, getting into the film industry
Speaker 1: and acting and when when you got done. But just
Speaker 1: the craft of it. And I always try to have
Speaker 1: some kind of correlation from what I what we did
Speaker 1: on the football field to taking that new approach and
Speaker 1: getting into these characters. Um, you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: separating yourself from who you are to the person that
Speaker 1: is on is on screen. And the fun the funny
Speaker 1: part is is that I wasn't I wasn't surprised at
Speaker 1: your first one you did, how good you did. I
Speaker 1: was more surprised at you jumped right into it because
Speaker 1: it took. It took me a little bit to kind
Speaker 1: of step out of my comfort zone going to auditions
Speaker 1: and doing that stuff. And I just didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 1: at first doing that. But you gotta you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta work at it. Yeah, you do. You gotta work
Speaker 1: at it man. Now it's like it's like man when
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's just like in the same correlation like
Speaker 1: football sean. Like uh, like I've trained myself like so
Speaker 1: much to the where if I got to get emotion,
Speaker 1: like I cried now when I say the word cry
Speaker 1: and I'm beginning to cry, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: just from those movies that I've done. Is just the
Speaker 1: work that I've been putting in. It's just like it's
Speaker 1: like normal muscle memory that now. But but it's cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool to like go to those different places and
Speaker 1: and just see the growth of the time. So what
Speaker 1: what are you know? What are some of the things man?
Speaker 1: Because I try to help out guys who um, because
Speaker 1: I and I talked to guys all the time, either
Speaker 1: they're about to retire or they're thinking about retiring. And
Speaker 1: that that transition, man, that transition for most people as hell,
Speaker 1: and it's not that they can't do anything else, is
Speaker 1: that they have to figure out what they want to do. Man,
Speaker 1: So like when when did you start making up your mind?
Speaker 1: Like this is this is what I'm what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: Because we we kept talking over and no, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: you got one more year, two more years, one more year.
Speaker 1: And I remember that day he was like, man, this
Speaker 1: is this is it? So how what was that transition? Like,
Speaker 1: I think you should start. I think it's a guy
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what you want to do. You
Speaker 1: just starting at least five years before you time. For me,
Speaker 1: I've been playing little seeds here and then I started
Speaker 1: acting like six years ago, um over time, just doing
Speaker 1: things here and there, and I started doing business like
Speaker 1: seven years ago. Um so just learning and just educating
Speaker 1: yourself over time. Man, whether it's real estate, whether it's uh,
Speaker 1: become the franchise z, all those things. You need to
Speaker 1: start now, because what happens when you're done you start now,
Speaker 1: what happens when you're done you just roll right into
Speaker 1: everything that you have going on, and it's be like
Speaker 1: you you didn't stop anything, you didn't stop a beat,
Speaker 1: You're still going. And that's what I that's when I've
Speaker 1: been able to do. Um. But but yeah, man, and
Speaker 1: if if there's any young guys I didn't need help,
Speaker 1: they can. They can give me a call. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know they give you a call. We we
Speaker 1: can help him out, show out. You know. I love
Speaker 1: helping people anyway. So anytime somebody got questions, man, like
Speaker 1: my my ex teammates called me all the time asking
Speaker 1: me questions man about real estate and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I just I feel, you know, I'm it's nice
Speaker 1: to know that I can help them, and you know,
Speaker 1: my it's an honor. No, that's that's the best feeling
Speaker 1: in the world. Man. So what's next? How how can
Speaker 1: you got the voting going on? How can people vote?
Speaker 1: What do they need to do? And uh what what?
Speaker 1: How how do they do that? I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: get the voting out there, man, so we can get
Speaker 1: it out there and get you get you on top. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they can only vote during people vote, They can
Speaker 1: only vote during the during the show. Um. They can
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Speaker 1: So I'm encouraging people to vote for me and my
Speaker 1: partner Peter. Yeah. No, we we're gonna get it out there, man.
Speaker 1: And I still I'm still gonna put together We're doing
Speaker 1: the movie one of these days. I don't know how
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen and how we're gonna link up and
Speaker 1: put a project together, but I'm I'm banking on the
Speaker 1: man back in uh back to make it happen. Man. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: it would be an honor, man, to be an honor.
Speaker 1: I would love to man, I would love to my brother. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for coming on, man, and good luck
Speaker 1: with that thing. I know you're gonna I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna kill it. Man. Want to encourage everybody to vote
Speaker 1: and represent for for DNV man the terms and always man,
Speaker 1: you're always killing it, always doing big things. Man. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate youth. Good. That's not happy man.
Speaker 1: So again, I appreciate my boy, my brother, my terrorping
Speaker 1: uh University of Maryland, brother Vernon Davis coming on. And
Speaker 1: you know one of the things I wish I would
Speaker 1: have brought up, and I doubt very seriously if he
Speaker 1: was going to uh talk about it. But Vernon would
Speaker 1: try to beat me in everything. We were so damn competitive.
Speaker 1: He would try to beat me in every single thing
Speaker 1: in the weight room, if we were running stadium steps,
Speaker 1: whatever piece of jewelry that I bought it when I
Speaker 1: got drafted in two thousand five, when he got drafted
Speaker 1: the following year, he would go out and buy the
Speaker 1: same jewelry, if not better. It was a complete competition
Speaker 1: all the way around. In fact, uh it was a
Speaker 1: few years that I broke the bench record for the
Speaker 1: most bench uh, the most squat in the in the gym, uh,
Speaker 1: the highest vertical, the biggest hand clean and vernon only
Speaker 1: goal was to make sure that he took all of
Speaker 1: my records off of the board. And he always wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure that he stood one step ahead of
Speaker 1: me at all at all times. So uh it brought
Speaker 1: out the best competition in US. Um that we come
Speaker 1: from the same area, grew fifteen minutes from each other,
Speaker 1: and difficult circumstances, man, I tell you, in PG County
Speaker 1: when I grew up in the late eighties and nineties. Um,
Speaker 1: with crime and and and some of the worst things
Speaker 1: you can see growing up as a kid happened. Um,
Speaker 1: so we have. And he obviously grew up in Washington,
Speaker 1: DC area, so we just always had a lot of
Speaker 1: common man and and really happy to see him now
Speaker 1: with Dance with the Stars and succeeding doing movies and
Speaker 1: other things. But we've been talking about this for the
Speaker 1: last you know, fifteen years, so to see this happen
Speaker 1: was great. Um, and I'm pretty I'm sure pretty soon
Speaker 1: he will have his own podcast to to have something
Speaker 1: just as much as I do, because the competition level
Speaker 1: is that crazy. Uh So anyway, I hope you guys
Speaker 1: enjoyed the show today. Uh, and don't forget to subscribe
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