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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague

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Speaker 1: West Hodkuwitz. Were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. West. Were at the midway point of

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Speaker 1: the week here as Packers Seahawks Sunday five forty pm

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Speaker 1: Central at lambeau Field. An NFC Divisional playoff game is

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Speaker 1: fast approaching. We will continue our deep dive into Puget

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Speaker 1: Sound maybe as we continue to examine the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: here and interestingly West. You look at these two teams,

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Speaker 1: the Packers and the Seahawks, and there aren't a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of similarities in how they play, but yet you

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Speaker 1: look at their seasons and there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: similarities and just how they figure out ways to win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the similarity between these two teams. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of like the xs and os in the personnel,

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Speaker 1: they are very few similarities. So it's just kind of

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Speaker 1: a strange matchup in that sense. It really is. But

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Speaker 1: that's why I love it so much, because it's the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different ways you can get

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Speaker 1: from A to Z and and I think Seattle and

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Speaker 1: Green Bay have both proved that. But you do mention

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Speaker 1: some of the statistical parallels between the two. They tied

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Speaker 1: for I think second or third in the NFL, third

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think it was second in the

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Speaker 1: NFC for the best turnover margin plus twelve on the season.

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Speaker 1: With how they ended things, they're both really strong red

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Speaker 1: zone offensive teams. I think in some areas they've you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they're right next to each other and run

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Speaker 1: defense in the twenties. I mean, it's just there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of different things that they both seems to

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Speaker 1: do relatively similar. Now, all that being said, you can

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Speaker 1: throw that out the window once they step on the field,

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Speaker 1: But seeing you know which team ends up on the

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Speaker 1: positive side of the turnover battle, which team controls the

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Speaker 1: time of possession, which team defends the run better than

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Speaker 1: the other. These are all the little tiny boxes that

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Speaker 1: you check off and route to figuring out who the

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Speaker 1: better team is and who's going to advance to the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship. And then when you just throw in the

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Speaker 1: fact that outside of teams in the NFC North, they

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Speaker 1: know each other as well as anybody in the NFL

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Speaker 1: for non divisional opponents, They've seen each other every season

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Speaker 1: for the last six years. I haven't seen members of

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Speaker 1: my family for the last six years, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: just to see how this is kind of laid out

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Speaker 1: and played out. Uh, you don't really get the matchups

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Speaker 1: with Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady and obviously when Peyton

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Speaker 1: But they've seen Russell Wilson year after year, and you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing him match wits with Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Those those are fun things to be able to dissect

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Speaker 1: and really look into. But I think another interesting aspect

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Speaker 1: of this You mentioned the familiarity and how many times

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Speaker 1: these teams have played one another regular season and post

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Speaker 1: season over the last six or seven years. But yet

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Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen vers to these teams don't really

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Speaker 1: look like the teams that we've seen in years past, because, yes,

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Speaker 1: you have Russell Wilson, you have Aaron Rodgers, but Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur is the new head coach in Green Bay. The

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Speaker 1: Packers have a lot of new personnel on defense. The Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: the legion of boom is no longer there. In the secondary,

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Speaker 1: we talked about how their top running backs have been

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Speaker 1: injured and they've been, you know, filling in guys who

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Speaker 1: that offense, so as familiar as they are with one

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Speaker 1: another over the over the long haul, over the course

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Speaker 1: of time, these two teams, the two thousand nineteen Packers

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Speaker 1: in the two thousand nineteen Seahawks are very different even

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Speaker 1: from the two that met in November on that Thursday

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Speaker 1: And one of the thing I want to be able

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Speaker 1: to use off of that pivot too, is when you

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Speaker 1: look at the roster construction, I think one area where

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Speaker 1: the Packers have kind of caught up to Seattle. In

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Speaker 1: one area I thought, I tipped my my captain, John Snyder.

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Speaker 1: I thought they did a tremendous job with this was

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Speaker 1: augmenting their roster with veteran players, leadership, and obviously production

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Speaker 1: being maybe caught with the undrafted rookie in a certain

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Speaker 1: this year, you see the Marcedes Lewis is and you know,

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Speaker 1: only does that allow you to to put guys that

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Speaker 1: are you know, have been in those situations before on

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Speaker 1: the offense and a defenseiveside the ball, I think it's

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Speaker 1: also allowed your your tie summers of the world. You know,

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Speaker 1: a rookie that's played on all the core special teams

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Speaker 1: all season, he's ready for these moments in the areas

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Speaker 1: in which he has been asked to play the entire season.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing I've always been impressed with Seattle about

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Speaker 1: play to their personnel and you're not going to catch

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Speaker 1: them being unprepared. Not saying that the Packers weren't. But

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of veteran leadership there

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Speaker 1: that has helped Seattle through this run. And now when

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Speaker 1: difference to what that roster looked like last November to

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Speaker 1: what they are here in January two twenty, that's what

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Speaker 1: stands out to me. They added not only those four

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Speaker 1: play yet. All these guys have a lot of pelts

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Speaker 1: it's just an exciting time. It's an exciting week to

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Speaker 1: be able to discuss this matchup and the latest permutation

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Speaker 1: of this rivalry over the last decade. Yeah. Well, and

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Speaker 1: it seems as though with these two teams you sort

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Speaker 1: long about how the Packers keep finding different ways to win.

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Speaker 1: They make some key plays in the worth quarter. Maybe

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Speaker 1: with a big third down conversion. Maybe it's a big

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Speaker 1: the ways in the fourth quarter of the Packers of

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Speaker 1: won games. You look, you look at the Seahawks West.

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Speaker 1: This is a team, a defense that in sixteen regular

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Speaker 1: They sack Carson Wentz and Josh McCown a combined seven

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Speaker 1: They get it in one game in the playoffs when

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Speaker 1: they got to have it on the road to stay alive.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what has defined the Seahawks. That in some

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Speaker 1: move on. So a funny little side story to this,

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Speaker 1: these Packer home games, which is just a joyous joy

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Speaker 1: as venture for myself. But I was working with Alexei Kinnard,

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Speaker 1: they realist out the leaders on the team and all

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Speaker 1: they played to it. Ken Norton Jr. Has been a

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, the big pressure statistic this year wasn't something

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Speaker 1: that Seattle really thrived in. Yeah, it's it's it's interesting

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Speaker 1: how that played out. I want to get back to

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Speaker 1: it's interesting the way the way this season has evolved

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and you have to believe the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: in terms of this is what we've done well this year,

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Speaker 1: That's the sense that I get in terms of how

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Speaker 1: regular season you weren't some highly ranked Juggernauts. Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: them in Sex, not Jared Reid. He only had two

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed, you know, Pete Carroll spoke to They haven't

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Speaker 1: he made two really great points. The first one was

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is as difficult as any place in the

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Speaker 1: I mean the record bears it out there. Oh and

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Speaker 1: to allow Russell Wilson to have the game he did

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Speaker 1: the ball at their backfield, that's gonna be a recipe

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Speaker 1: first disaster when you look at Sadarius Smith, Preston Smith,

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Speaker 1: is my blueprint though right now. It's being able to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you contain Russell Wilson and you can

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Speaker 1: contain that running game, because if you do that, that's

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Speaker 1: what makes those downfield shots a DK metcalf more difficult

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Speaker 1: to do. And it's going to be what allows, you know,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett not to be able to get into the

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Speaker 1: rhythm that he has against some of these teams this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with you. Well, We've got plenty more

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Speaker 1: to talk about here as the week continues with this

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Speaker 1: playoff game approaching, but for now we'll call it a

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Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: for West. I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in everybody. We'll

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