1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: I have all this pressure on me, being the first 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: black man to do this show in this big role, 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: and I knew that if I fucked this up, I 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: more than likely will have fucked it up for any 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: black man to come behind me. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: We'll get in to my opinions on the Real house 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: by the Atlanta season six right after these quick ass 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. So 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: today's episode of Reality with the King is not going 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: to be a recap episode. We are going to cover 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season six. Yes, the season 19 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: that you guys want me to talk about so much, 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the highest rated season ever in Bravo history, the most 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: talked about season ever in terms of the Royal Housewives franchise, 22 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: and yes, the first season where I was the. 23 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: Executive producer of the show Hey rain Drops. 24 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: So today's episode of Reality with the King, I am 25 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about the most requested topic that you 26 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: my have been requesting even before I started the podcast, 27 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: but definitely after I announced that I was doing a podcast, 28 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: The Real Housewives of Atlanta season six, as Time Magazine 29 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: put it, the greatest season of all time. So recently, 30 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: Time Magazine did this amazing feature about the fifty best 31 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: seasons of reality television in history, and The Real Housewives 32 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: of Atlanta Season six was on the list. 33 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes. 34 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Now, the reason why this season is so special to 35 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: you guys is because, I mean, honey, it's the best 36 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: season of every show on Bravo, So of course it's 37 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: the best season of the Real Housewives franchise that ever 38 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: existed on Earth. 39 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,559 Speaker 2: Honey. That's why, y'all. But it's also. 40 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Special to me because it's the first season where I 41 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: was the executive producer of the Real Housewives. 42 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: So I know all of you want to get all 43 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: the behind the scenes t about that season. I know, 44 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: I know. 45 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: And the episode we titled Pillow Talk where Nimi Monique 46 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Johnson leaks once removed. Yes, Hodie Pillow Talk, where you 47 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: know she had this amazing pajama Jammy jam and things 48 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: went a little Craig Cray and all of you want 49 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: me to give y'all my POV about what happened that 50 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: faithful knight in Atlanta, Georgia. Okay, so I'm going to 51 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: talk about that, but first I would like to get 52 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: into what mad the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season six 53 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: not only the highest rated season Bravo history, but also 54 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: what made it great. In order for you guys to 55 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: understand that, I have to take get a step back. So, 56 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: as you know, my rain drops, I've been a part 57 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta since season one. I 58 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: was an associated producer and again my job was responsible 59 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: for the housewives I was assigned to. So season one, 60 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: as you all know, it was Nini Leaks and Deshaun Snow. 61 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: And then season two, I was an associate producer again 62 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and I was a sign of course Nini Leaks, but 63 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: they also give your boy Kim Zoziak. Imagine a producer 64 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: having Nimi and Kim the same season at the same 65 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: damn time. That's a whole other episode for a whole 66 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: nother day. Anyways, fast forward to season four. Okay, so 67 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: season four, I was the supervising producer, so I got 68 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: a promotion and I was so happy because. 69 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: I felt like, Okay, you deserve this, you deserve this. 70 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: You're great, you know. 71 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: You put in work. Carlos King like, you know, like 72 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: this is it for you, This is it. And then 73 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: season five came rolling around, and at this point in 74 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: my career, I wanted to have a different experience. I 75 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: did not want to be known as like just the 76 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta producer. You know, yes, I did 77 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: two seasons of New Jersey Housewives, but I was always 78 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: a part of the Atlanta franchise. And because I'm such 79 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: a creative person, I just wanted a different experience. So 80 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: I did not do season five of the Real Housewives 81 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: of Atlanta. 82 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: I left. 83 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: I completed season four, and I went on to do 84 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: another show, Atlanta. 85 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: Now, prior to. 86 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: That, I was the executive producer of Niini Leak's wedding special. 87 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: But I said to myself, Okay, let me do the 88 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 1: wedding special and then, you know, let me go figure 89 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: out other things. So a company, a production company reached 90 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: out to me and said, we have this show called Blood, 91 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: Sweat and Heels. 92 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: It was taped to New York City. 93 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: About a group of black women in New York City 94 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: who were entrepreneurs, friends for the most part, but also 95 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: just really about. 96 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: Their business acumen. 97 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: So I received the presentation tape while I was filming 98 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Niani Leak's Wedding Special, and at that time I was like, Okay, well, 99 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: maybe after I complete Niani Leak's Wedding Special, I'll go ahead, 100 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I'll figure out something else. So when 101 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: season six came back around, I was told by the 102 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: production company and the network that they wanted to offer 103 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: me the Covenant executive producer position on the Real House 104 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Spots of Atlanta. Little did they know, I was watching 105 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: this Blood, Sweat and Hills presentation tape and I was like, hmm, 106 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: this could be interesting. It's an opportunity for me to 107 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: work on a brand new show with a group of 108 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: successful black women in New York City, a city that 109 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I used to live in at the time. So I 110 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: felt like, okay, I could do this. Melissa Ford was 111 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: a part of the cast. She and I worked together 112 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: when I worked at Bet. You had Demitra Lucas who 113 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: was a part of the cast. She and I knew 114 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: each other just by you know, running the streets in 115 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: New York City, you know, going to entertainment events and parties. 116 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, I can really make Bluss 117 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: sweat and heels like that girl, Like this is a 118 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: challenge for me, Like I could do it. 119 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: But then this is the gag of gagg gag gay gags. 120 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: So everybody wanted me to do the Real Housepots of Atlanta, 121 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: even my agent over at CAA, who is still my 122 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: agent today, he said, Carlos King, every single producer in 123 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: the world wants to be the executive producer of the 124 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Real Hotspots of Atlanta. 125 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: And here you are. They are pretty much handing you 126 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: the job. 127 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: You don't have to interview for it, you don't have 128 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: to do anything besides show up because they understand the 129 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: history that you have with these women and they really 130 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: want to be able to let you take on this 131 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: new legacy. And the word that kept using was looking 132 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: for you to revolutionize this franchise. And because of your 133 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: long relationships with these women, we all feel like you 134 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: can do it. And guys, I wasn't sold on it. 135 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I really am checking for these 136 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: bloods and Hill's girls, and I don't know. I just 137 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: want to do something different. And I told my agent, 138 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I just don't want to 139 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: be known as the guy who can only do housewives 140 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: like I want to be able to like spread my 141 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: wings and fly right. So one thing that everybody who 142 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: knows me knows about. 143 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: Me is I don't like being told what to do. 144 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a that's a characteristic of mine. 145 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: I don't like being told what to do. 146 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: So my agent knew that and he said, look, I 147 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: know you don't like being told what to do. 148 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: So that's my advice. 149 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: But think about it because the network is expecting an 150 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: answer from you. So I will never forget this. So 151 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: if you guys follow me, you know I'm very spiritual. 152 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: I pray to God multiple times a day. And I 153 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: took a few days to think about it, and I 154 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: don't know. 155 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: I was just I was conflicted. I was really conflicted. 156 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I love the girls and I love the show, 157 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: but I just wanted a different experience. 158 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: So I will never forget this. 159 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: I was at a John Legend concert at the Fox 160 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Theater in Atlanta, and my agent called me and said, 161 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow we have to give an answer to the Network 162 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: and the production company on whether or not you're going 163 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: to be the executive producer of the Real Housewilds of 164 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta Season six. 165 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: So he calls me. I leave the theater. 166 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: I walk over to the concession stand, got me some 167 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: popcornch because I'm so dramatic, and I call him back 168 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: and I asked him, I said, what do you think 169 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: I should do? 170 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: And he said, well, we all know you don't like 171 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: being told what to do. 172 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I said, I know, I know, I know, but listen, 173 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: you're my agent. Your job is to give me some 174 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: great advice. What do you think he said, Carlos King, 175 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: you are being handed this job. If you do this job, 176 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: and you do a great job, it will change your 177 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: life forever. Yes, blud Swinn and Hills looks like a 178 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: great show. I get it. It's also a new show 179 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't have an audience yet. So you can either 180 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: take the risk of hopping on something new, or you 181 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: can take the job that at Rea sing Goal executive 182 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: producer wants, because everybody in the business knows if you 183 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: can do Atlanta Housewives, Oh baby, the floodgates of opportunities 184 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: are going to open for you. And I said, okay, 185 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: I said, call them tomorrow and let them know I'm 186 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: gonna do it, and he said okay, And that's how 187 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: I became the executive producer of the Real Housewives. 188 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: Of Atlanta Season six. So here I am, guys, I'm 189 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: on to high like yes, like okay, I'm gonna do. 190 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do it. 191 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: A week later after I said yes to the drass, 192 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: after I said yes to producing the show, I get 193 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: a phone call that Kenya Moore was not going to 194 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: return to the show. And Baby, I gagged, gagged because 195 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: a part of me was like, let's be clear. I 196 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: did the first four seasons, so I know the rest 197 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: of the cast. But because I did not produce season five, 198 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Kenya Moore was that girl and I wanted a taste 199 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: of that action. So to hear that Kenya Moore was 200 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: not going to come back, I'm like, I've been bamboozled, 201 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Like is there. 202 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: Season six without Kenya? What's going on here? So I 203 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: was nerve. 204 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: This so much, so your boy had to fly out 205 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles during the BET Awards. Yes, I had 206 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: to fly out to Los Angeles to meet with Kenya 207 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: at Maestros in Beverly Hills, and if you know anything 208 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: about Maestros, it's like the most expensive steakhouse in all 209 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: of California. So yes, Kenya has expensive taste. So I 210 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: was told, please take Kenya out to dinner and see 211 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: if you can. 212 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: Talk to her, to try to see if she can 213 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: come back. 214 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: So I sit across from this icon, this legend, the moment, 215 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: and I'm from Detroit and in Detroit, Michigan, where Kenya's 216 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: also from. She is truly like the biggest star in Detroit, 217 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: next to Diana Ross. Like Kenya is huge. She's a 218 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: very big deal in Detroit. So here i am sitting 219 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: across from a hometown hero. I'm like, yes, like this 220 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: is fantastic, and I'm like, Kenya, I only came back 221 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: for you, like we have to work together. So Kenya 222 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: was just you know, listen Kenya's first season on season five. 223 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Again, I don't work on season five. 224 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Kenya felt that her first season, you know, that's when 225 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: social media started to become big and she received a 226 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: lot of you know, shade and just conversation about her behavior, 227 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: and she had a very very very rough season. It 228 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: was her first season, and I promised her I said, look, 229 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: if you come back to the show, I promised that 230 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: I'll hold your hand through this process and we'll get 231 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: through this together. 232 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: I got you, but I need you, like girl, I 233 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: need you. 234 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: So she said, yes, honey, that's all I needed to hear, Like, Okay, 235 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: I got Kenya Moore. Season six is about to be 236 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: a litt eation, so I have all this pressure to 237 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: make sure again, Carlos, you have to revolutionize this season. Okay, 238 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: we're depending on you. And not only that, I knew 239 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: at that time that I was going to be the 240 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: first black man to ever executive produce a Real Housewives 241 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: franchise in general, And one thing about black people when 242 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: we're younger, we're always told like, you gotta work twice 243 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: as hard as your white kind of parts because we 244 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: don't have the same opportunities as them. 245 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: And one thing. 246 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: That is like a code in the black community. If 247 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: you're the first at something, you don't want to be 248 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: the last, right, So one thing we always say is 249 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: if you're the first black person at something and you 250 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: do a bad job, we're always like, see you mess 251 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: it up with all the other black people behind you, 252 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: because now they're not going to hire another black person. 253 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: So again that's just stuff that we think about as 254 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: black people. So I have all this pressure on me, 255 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: being the first black man to do this show in 256 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: this big role, and I knew that if I fucked 257 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: this up, I more than likely will have fucked it 258 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: up for any black man to come behind me. And again, 259 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: it's not something that I was told. This is something 260 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: that inherently in the black culture, we think about in 261 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: our community when we are at a certain level in 262 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: our respective careers. It's something we think about as any 263 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: successful black person. 264 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: We all think that way and still do. 265 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: So I have all this pressure on me, and I 266 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I did a great job. 267 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: So courtesy of me having a relationship with the housewives, 268 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: I knew that if I just set them down and say, look, 269 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: let's make a great season. I'm all about personal story. Yes, 270 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: it's cute to throw shade and for all that stuff, 271 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: but that is not what's going to make people tune 272 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: in week to week. I want this season to be 273 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: the season where people are on the edge of their 274 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: seats because they are getting personal story from you, ladies. 275 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: No one cares about the booty implants, allegations, No one 276 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: cares about you know, I read you like, no one 277 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: cares about that, Like that's a cute moment that can 278 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: go viral, But the way I produce, I'm like, no, 279 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: we have to talk about real life issues. So I 280 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: remember talking to Faedrian Apollo, like, y'all gotsa start talking 281 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: about what's really happening in this household. It can just 282 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: be these funny sayings here and there, like, no, let's 283 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: really get down to the root of the issue that 284 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: you two are facing in y'all marriage. And Faedra understood 285 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: the assignment and she killed it in a sense of 286 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: being honest and being open. That scene where Fadra and 287 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: Apollo had dinner and Apollo made these crazy allegations about 288 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: Kenya coming to his hotel and the y'all remember when 289 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: Phedra had her steak knife, ah, and she gave you 290 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: a good old Glenn close moment from Fatal Traction, honey, 291 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: where she had that. 292 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: Knife looking at Apollo. 293 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: It says something along the lines of I can cut 294 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: her throat right now. 295 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the stuff that I knew was. 296 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Going to resonate to a large audience black white Asian 297 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: Latina wherever I knew that that sort of story was 298 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: going to be rich in value for the audience. 299 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: It's getting good, and you know, I hate to. 300 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: Interrupt, but I'll be right back after these quick ads. 301 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 302 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Let's get back into my opinions on the Reyal House 303 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: spots of Atlanta season six. Season six was also this 304 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: season where Porsche then Stewart, was going through the divorce 305 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: proceedings with the Cordell and I enjoyed Porsche her first season, 306 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: which was also season five. I remember talking to the 307 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: producers because as I was in the conversation of doing 308 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: nine Leek's wedding special and preparing for that, they asked me. 309 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: If I could help around with the season five reunion. 310 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Now, mind you, I didn't produced season five, but they 311 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: felt like, okay, hey, look, you know these girls. 312 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: We're trying to get you to come back for. 313 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Season six, honey, so why not just help produce the 314 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: reunion for season five. So I was there for that, 315 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: and I remember talking to the executives and saying like, oh, 316 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: I love Porsche, because there were conversations about whether or 317 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: not Porsche should come back, and I was like hey, 318 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: as somebody who did not work on season five, and 319 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I actually, you know, watched the season, so I'm on 320 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the outside looking in. I think Porsche is just getting started. 321 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I said, I don't think Porsche has truly shown everything 322 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: she is, and I am fascinated with Porsche, and I'm like, 323 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: I really do think we all should give Porsche a chance, 324 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, if I come and. 325 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: Produce season six, like, I want Porsche back too. 326 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: I just think there's something about her, this innocense she 327 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: has in those beautiful brown eyes that I'm like, I 328 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: don't know, there. 329 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: Is something about I just think we should give her 330 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: another chance. 331 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: I was fighting for Porsche and Honey Porscha gave Porsia 332 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: gave it her interviews Porsia when she said, I'm talking woman, 333 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: a woman referring to her ex baby. 334 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: Girl. I was here for all of Porsche. 335 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: And the fact that she was going through this very 336 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: tumultuous divorce at a very bad time in her life. 337 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: It was real and that was the thing. 338 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: It was like, I kept telling the producers, like, Honey, 339 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: follow Porsche. 340 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: Wherever she goes, because we are following a woman who's 341 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: going through this divorce to a public figure. 342 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: And we have to see that Porscha had more scenes 343 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: tap than anybody because Porsche was unraveling right before our eyes. 344 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: And because Porscha is so great, she allowed us to 345 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: documented every step of the way. 346 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: Every step of the way. 347 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Portion was phenomenal season six, like everything everything, It was 348 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: so real and so raw and so relatable. 349 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: And then we get to pillow talk, Yes, pillow talk. 350 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: So one thing about Nimi, who is also a ghost 351 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: producer and yes, a forced multiplier. 352 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Haha, yes, Nini leaks. 353 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: Nimi pitched this idea of having a pajama party with 354 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: the cast. 355 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: And remember her and Greg just got back together. 356 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: I did the wedding special, and I want to say 357 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: a week after Nini got married, we started taping season 358 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: six in Atlanta Housewives, so her and Greg was in 359 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: this honeymoon phase and Nini was like, look, I really 360 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: want to invite the cast to have, you know, this 361 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: pajama party. We're gonna call it Pillo talk because it's 362 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to get to know the couples 363 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: in a very sexy way. And she said, Carlos is 364 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: such a fun time, we should do it. And I'm like, okay, 365 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: let's do it. So we have Monique Monique. So my 366 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: Nique was married to Chuck and Chuck went to school 367 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: with Phaedra and Nini and Athens. So invited my Nique 368 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: and Chuck, and then we also invited R and B 369 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: star Christopher Williams. 370 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 2: Don't wake me, I'm dreaming, Yes, Christopher Williams. I love 371 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: a song. 372 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: So we had Christopher Williams and his wife Natalie because 373 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: my thing was, well, Honey, I want to see all 374 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: the couples, not just the peach holders and their husbands. 375 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: I want to see all the couples because my biggest 376 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: thing was Natalie, and my Nique was so integrated into 377 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the women's business that Chuck and Christopher Williams was also integrated, 378 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: not only in the men's business, but the women's business too, 379 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: And I wanted season six to be more about the 380 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: couples and less about just the cattiness. 381 00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 2: With the girl. 382 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're going to get that just by circumstance. 383 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: But I want this season to be where the men 384 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: have a voice. And that's when you saw for the 385 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: first time the men were doing interviews and I remember 386 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: sitting down with again Peter Todd Apollo, Greg may he 387 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: rest in peace, and the rest of the guys like Yo, 388 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: I really want you all to have a voice. Y'all 389 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: are going to film more this season. I'm going to 390 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: make sure that you guys are involved as much as possible, 391 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: because that's just how couples are. 392 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 2: Couples are involved in each other's businesses, period. 393 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: So I knew this pillow Talk event was going to 394 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: be interesting because I wanted the men to have a voice. 395 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: What I did not know is that a big brawl 396 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: was going to happen. I was not ready for that. 397 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: I was not prepared for that. It was a very 398 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: long night. 399 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: We were at a hotel suite in a Anta and 400 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: what you guys saw was maybe what twenty minutes if 401 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: that of the event. 402 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: We were there for like three to four hours. It 403 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: was a very, very, very long night. 404 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: Nini was not happy because Kenya was late and this 405 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: season there was something interesting going on. 406 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: With the Battle of the Force Multipliers. 407 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: Nini and Kenya had this very interesting relationship. You know, 408 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: it started off with them being frenemies because remember in 409 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the season premiere of season six, that's when Cynthia had 410 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: this white party. 411 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: Kenya felt slighted that. 412 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: Nini would invite her ex boyfriend Walter to the wedding, 413 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: and that's when Niini told Kenya, no bitch is going 414 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: to tell me who and who I cannot invite honey, right, 415 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, that whole thing happened. But then Nimi and 416 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: Kenya made up immediately, and that's when Nimi was trying 417 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: to get Kenya back integrated with the group. So on 418 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: this night at the hotel, Kenya was late. I think 419 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: she had to fly back to La a few days 420 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: before that. Her flight came in late. She had to 421 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: go home and change her lingerie attire because everybody had 422 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: to wear lingerie and pajamas, and Nimi was irritated. 423 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: She was very, very irritated. 424 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: And for me, I'm like, Okay, this is when it's 425 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: less about her being late, and I think it's more 426 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: so about the fact that who does Kenya think she 427 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: is that she gets to walk into any event late. 428 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: We're all housewives, we're all here, we all came in 429 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: on time. Why does Kingya get to be late? But 430 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: Ya's defense her flight, you know, landed lay and she 431 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: has to go change clothes. But again, that's when as 432 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: a producer, I was like, this has nothing to do 433 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: with me, and it has everything to do with this 434 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: fight for position of who's the star of the show. 435 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: Let's just be let's just be real. See the six 436 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: was all about who is a star Kenya or Nini, 437 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: And you can ask any housewife that season that pull 438 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: up talk fight was more so about who is the 439 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: star of season six? 440 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: Period? Point in the blank. And yes, I said what 441 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: I said. 442 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: I felt that Niini and Kenya's biggest issue have more 443 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: to do with like, who's the queen of the show? Period, 444 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: And that attitude, I would say, spilled out into the scene. 445 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: So when Kenya walked in, what y'all didn't see was 446 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: Nini was very irritated, like very irritated because she. 447 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: Wanted to, of course, make sure that the event started 448 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: off right and rightfully. 449 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: So and I get it. I've hosted parties before. 450 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Anybody who's late, it does irritate you because it's sort 451 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: of like, well, bitch, who are you to be late 452 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: to my party? 453 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: So I understood what Nini was going through. 454 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: So Kenya walks in and baby when Nimi Monique Johnson 455 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: Leaks once removed slammed the door in Kenya's face, and 456 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: then Kenya open up the door and said hey, and 457 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Nini goes, hey, bitch, and then Kenya goes, you look fabulous, 458 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: and then Nini goes, you don't. At then Kenya goes, oh, honey, 459 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I always look fabulous, and Nini goes, you think you 460 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: look fabulous, but you really don't. 461 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: And me and the producers were laughing. 462 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Our bus saw off because nothing to me is more 463 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: funny than seeing two people go at it in a 464 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: comical way, and that's the beauty of that show. 465 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: It was always fun shade that made me gigly like. 466 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: I like fun shape because I think. 467 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: You have to have a certain level of knowledge and 468 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: intelligence and personality to not go dark but to do 469 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: fun shade. Oh baby, sign me up for fun shake. 470 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: All day long. I loved it. So all the other 471 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: housewives knew at that moment this is going to be 472 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: a very long night. 473 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: So as Kinga got settled and Nini complimented her big titties, 474 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: as she called it, Nini played a game. 475 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: So let me explain this. 476 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Because Nini waited hours for Kenya to arrive, the game 477 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: that Needi wanted to play was stalled, so when Kinga 478 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: came with her friend Brandon. 479 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: She wanted to make sure that the couples could play 480 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: the game. 481 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: So the game had to do with these random questions 482 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: about couples, what you can do, what you cannot do. 483 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it became a parent 484 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: that Kenya and Natalie plus Christopher had this weird vibe, 485 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: and Nini caught the vibe and she wanted to address 486 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: it because again, as the host, you want to address it. 487 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: And I get that because I'm a host of a podcast, 488 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: a late night show and reunions. So yes, as a host, 489 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: your job is to ask questions. So that's what Nini 490 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: was doing. And let's be clear, Nini was doing her 491 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: job period. 492 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: So we did not know that Nini calling out the 493 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: weird vibe between Christopher, Natalie and Kenya would involve Kenya, 494 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: who used an epic line, an epic clap back to 495 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: Natalie when Natalie said, oh, Kenya, don't back pedal, and 496 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Kenya got up out of her seat and said, oh baby, 497 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: this isn't back pedaling, it's front pedaling. Yes, come on, 498 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: word Smith, that's how you. Clara, who yes, loved it, 499 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: loved it? 500 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: Who says that, honey, this isn't back pedaling, it's front pedaling. 501 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 2: I love everything about it. It was just juicy, funny 502 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: and just it was everything. 503 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So when Kenya got up out of her seat, 504 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: we didn't think that, okay, a big fight would break out. 505 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: None of us saw that coming, period. None of us 506 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: saw that coming. 507 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: So we were all surprised that Kenya getting up out 508 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: of her seat where her friend Brandon was obviously defending 509 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: his girl, would result in Peter trying to constrain Brandon 510 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: and Brandon is there to defend his sister, and then 511 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: Apollo stepped in and tried to diffuse the situation. And 512 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: I think because Brandon was obviously being touched by two men, 513 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: he didn't know what was going on, and he's pushing back, 514 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Apollo and Brandon started 515 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: to fight, which was super weird. And that's when all 516 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: the producers left the control room that we were having 517 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: in another room. 518 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: In the suite and tried to diffuse it. We did 519 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: not see this coming. 520 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: We were all gagged and surprised and like, what the 521 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: fuck is happening? Like this isn't what we thought was 522 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: going to happen. And to see Apollo have multiple punches 523 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: thrown at Brandon and to see how we were all 524 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: trying to defuse it. 525 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: It was like, oh my gosh, what is happening here? 526 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: And as the executive producer of the show, I want 527 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody was safe. 528 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: So we all just like if you watch it, we're 529 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: all just holding people. 530 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: So when you see these random people holding the house, 531 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: wasn't cast members and you see Chuck hiding behind my Nique, 532 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: we're just trying to make sure that everything's okay. 533 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: Period. 534 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: Like we're not trying to do anything, like we're trying 535 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: to defuse it. But we also know that we're shooting 536 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: a show, so the camera guys kept documenting it as 537 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: they should. They're there to document everything that's happening. So 538 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: we were focused, and when I say we, I mean 539 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: the producers. We were focused on making sure that Brandon 540 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: and Apollo were separated and that was it for us. 541 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: There was a conversation that the cast members had with me, 542 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: Carlos King, and they were like, we don't want to 543 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: be fighting on this show. 544 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: And I'm speaking to myself and I said this after I. 545 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: Thought about it, because I do speak my mind. I 546 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: said to them, Oh, I know, y'all ain't about to 547 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: blame me for this. Y'all got me fucked up if 548 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: you think for a second I'm responsible for grown people 549 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: acting this way, like stop it, are you kidding me? Well, 550 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: you know, we just ain't used to this, And I said, 551 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: and I am. I did the first four seasons. I 552 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: ain't used to the shit either. I'm used to Charae 553 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: locking Nannie out the gate, you know, and she can't 554 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: get into her party. 555 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 2: Honey. 556 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: Now I am used to Charae shifting Kim's wig, but 557 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm not used to this brawl, like, don't play me. 558 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: But it was a conversation where we all just felt 559 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: the need to just sit down and reflect on, like, okay, 560 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: what happened? Because one thing, when you are involved in 561 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: any intense situation, you want to get down to the 562 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: root of it. And I think just by listen, let's 563 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: just be real. I don't think any of them wanted 564 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: to take responsibility for what happened. As we saw in 565 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: the later episodes, nobody wanted to take responsibility for it. 566 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: So of course you had cast members blaming cast members. 567 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: You have people, of course blaming producers, because again, God. 568 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: Forbid something happens. Chiad is the producer's fault. Yeah, boring. 569 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: It was more about the fact that people had an 570 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: issue with each other, and it is debatable that if 571 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: Kenya did not get out of her seat, would all 572 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: of this have happened. That was such a debate that 573 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: a historically black college in Atlanta had this topic of 574 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: discussion in one of their media classes. Okay, a professor 575 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: at an HBCU in Atlanta who taught media studies, we 576 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: learned that she had the topic of the day be 577 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: who's responsible for pillow Talk? 578 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: Fight, Nimi or Kenya Baby? 579 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: If that ain't epic, I mean the fact that that 580 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: scene was discussed at the college level is. It's just 581 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: amazing to me because it goes to show you that 582 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: it has less to do about oh, let's point fingers 583 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 1: about it. It had everything to do about human behavior 584 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: and social circumstances. And that to me is why, Yes, listen, 585 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: people like to see a train wreck, and I get that, 586 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: but I think the reason why Pillow Talk is the 587 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: highest rated episode of season six, in addition to how 588 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: some people will always call that the best reality scene 589 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: in history, is because it was more about the scenarios 590 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: that took place and truly who was responsible for it. 591 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: It's sort of like a Shonda Rhyme scandal moment, right 592 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: where you're sort of like, here's the evidence, here's what 593 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 1: the prosecution is saying, here's what the defendants are saying, 594 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: and this is what really happened. You know, is there 595 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt that as a part of 596 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: human nature to really blame somebody for something, because that's 597 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: just the world we live in now. As someone who 598 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: was there, I truly don't blame one person. I think 599 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 1: what happened was you had a room full of couples 600 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: and some of these people did not get along, and 601 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: obviously Kenya and Natalie were not seeing eye to eye, 602 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: and Christopher Williams was trying to defend his wife, Brandon 603 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: was trying to defend his best friends slash sister, and 604 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: then I think everybody's, you know, emotions were just heightened 605 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: because of that. I still don't understand why Apollo and 606 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: Brandon got into that brawl. I don't know if Apolla 607 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: felt that Brandon and defending himself, hit him the wrong 608 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: way or got a punch in. I don't know, but 609 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: it really did show you that anything can happen. And 610 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: the beauty of that moment to me is the fact that. 611 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: It happened. 612 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: We had one conversation, meaning the housewives and the men. 613 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: They had one conversation about it. Afterwards. Remember when the 614 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: next episode when they were in the nel salon and 615 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: Kenya and Nini got into it about responsibility, but they 616 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: talked about it, and guys, we. 617 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: Never brought it up again. That was it. That was it, 618 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: because we have more shit to do. 619 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: That to me will always be the beauty of pillow 620 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: talk is the fact that it was. It was a 621 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: very dark moment, but we did not allow that moment 622 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: to define the rest of the season. And when I 623 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: look at certain shows where every episode they do a 624 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: pillow talk child meaning a fight happens and it's the 625 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: main story for the entire season, I'm happy that those 626 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: six peach holders and their husbands were able to talk 627 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: about it, address it, and move on. And that's why 628 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Season six will forever go down in history as the 629 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: best season in Atlanta Housewives history and the history of 630 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: the franchise, because we had a lot of story to tell, 631 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: and that's what I do miss about the show. Where 632 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: you have multiple personal stories that were relatable to a 633 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: massive audience. My hope is that as we reflect on 634 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: the amazing season six of the Royal Hospitals of Atlanta, 635 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: where Time magazine called it one of the top fifty 636 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: best seasons and reality TV history, I hope that we 637 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: all can see why, and it's my hope that the 638 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: show can get back to that. It was so fun 639 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: going back down memory lane with you guys, and I 640 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: hope it was all worth the wait. Yes to recap 641 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: that very epic season was such a joy, And I 642 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: gave you all the tea about pillow talk, but I 643 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: want to hear from you guys, So tweet me hashtagging 644 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: Reality with the King and let me know what's your 645 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: favorite moment from C and six And don't forget you 646 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: can watch the Real housewatchs of Atlanta every Sunday night, 647 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: eight o'clock Suncentrol on Bravo. Reality with the King is 648 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: a production of More Sauce by Stitcher. It is executive 649 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: produced by Me, Carlos King, and Jazmine Henley Brown. 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