1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today we're covering one of 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: my favorite topics of all time, The Simpsons in the nineties. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: I have on writer Alan Siegel, who wrote a book 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: about the Simpsons coming out this summer. We'll talk about 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the golden age of the Simpsons, which is my favorite, 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: and we'll also talk about how movie classics had an 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: impact on the show in the nineties. In the movie review, 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: I am defending a movie on Netflix called The Electric State, 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: directed by the Russo Brothers, starring Chris Pratt and Millie 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. This movie was being dragged through the mud 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and I'm here to say it is not as bad 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: as everybody is saying it is. In the trailer Park, 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk about a new horror movie coming out this 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: week called The Woman in the Yard. Am I going 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: to hate it? Or Am I going to love it? 17 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed. 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: And now let's talk movies from the Nastville podcast network. 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: And this is movie Mike Movie Plot. Alan Siegel is 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: a fantastic writer. He lives in Los Angeles and covers 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: and makes some movies. Music TV show, sports, and general nostalgia. 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: For the Ringer. You can check out his work at them. 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: He has a book coming out on June tenth called 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Stupid TV Be More Funny, about the golden age of 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: the Simpsons in the nineties. You know me from listening 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: to this podcast. I am a massive Simpsons fan. Even 27 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: though this isn't a TV podcast, I always find ways 28 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: to incorporate the Simpsons in my reviews because when you 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: look at the show's golden age, so much of it 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: was influenced by famous, iconic movies. So I want to 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: talk to Alan about that. I want to get to 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: know him through movies. You can find the link to 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: pre order his book in the episode notes. But right now, 34 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: let's talk to Alan Siegel. Alan, how are you doing. 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm good. Thanks for having me. 36 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: It is so rare that I get to find somebody 37 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: who is as nerdy about the Simpsons as I am, 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: somebody who has now dedicated so much of their life 39 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: to write a Simpsons book. So I'm excited to get 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: to talking about the book. But first, since it's the 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: movie podcast, I want to get to know you through movies. 42 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Is that cool? 43 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 44 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna do what I call the first four movie questions. 45 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Question number one, What was the first movie you remember 46 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: seeing in theaters? 47 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: I think it was Oliver and Company. Oh, It's so good, 48 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. So it's a Disney cartoon pre Disney 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: renaissance with the songs of Billy Joel. 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great Disney movie. I tell people 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: that is one of the most underrated Disney movies because 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of in that bunk era, that what 53 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: they call the xerox era, where the animation was like 54 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: just not very good. They said the ideas at that 55 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: time were just unimaginative. But I love that movie. What 56 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: do you remember about seeing that in theaters? 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: I just remember the songs and kind of not being 58 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: that impressed with it. I was really young, I was 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: probably four, so I enjoyed it, but I didn't really 60 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: know what was coming. And actually that there is a 61 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: good Simpsons tie in, which is the animators that I 62 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: talked to talked about sort of at that time, that 63 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: was like the peak of what you could do as 64 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: an animator. There really wasn't. There wasn't this ambitious stuff 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: that came later for sure. 66 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: All right, next up, if you're on a Desert Island. 67 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: You can only bring one movie? What movie is that 68 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: going to be? 69 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Terminator two? I would say absolutely. I think I can 70 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: rewatch that anytime anywhere. 71 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Is that the movie you've seen the most? 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen it the most. I think 73 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: the most the movie I've seen the most probably is 74 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: Major League, which my grandparents gave us on VHS in 75 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: around nineteen ninety one. I think because there was like 76 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: a baseball on the cover, they had no idea how 77 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: profane it was. 78 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: For sure, literally one of the most vulgar baseball movies 79 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: you could give to a kid. All right. First, for 80 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: number three, what is your favorite animated movie? 81 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: That is a very good question. I think the Original 82 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Toy Story. I was twelve at the time, so it 83 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: really it kind of showed me that there could be 84 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 2: animated movies that weren't just sort of kiddy and yeah 85 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: it was for kids, but it was just like a 86 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: little more evolved than some of the stuff that we 87 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: had gotten at the time. 88 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: And final, in the first four, what movie character are 89 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: you most like in real life? 90 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: Man? I have to think about that one for a second, see. 91 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Because for me, like outside of doing something like this, 92 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I would say silent Bob because if I'm not talking 93 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: about movies, if I'm not talking about the Simpsons, I 94 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot to say. So in like 95 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: normal everyday conversations, I'll say the least, but every now 96 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: and then I'll get in that one liner and I 97 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: was like, everybody's like, oh, that guy can talk, but 98 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: that is kind of mine, Like I identify a lot 99 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: with Silent Bob. 100 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: I would say some combination of the three main characters 101 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: and super Bad so mcluve, Michael Sarah, and Jonah Hill. 102 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: I just think Christopher mintz plass his real name is 103 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: not mc lovey. I would say, like that combo of 104 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, awkwardness and sweetness. I hope maybe I don't 105 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 2: really know if I was that way, and as a teenager, 106 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: maybe I sort of aspired to have the sense of 107 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: humor that Jonah Hill's character did. 108 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's a combination of like everybody 109 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: in high school as all those three characters, like you 110 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: want to be cool, but you're also kind of a jerk, 111 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: and you're also kind of a nerd, and we also 112 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: probably love Simpsons. 113 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the insecurities would come out in sort of ye, 114 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: dickishness for sure. 115 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the book Stupid TV Be More Funny, 116 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: all about ninety Simpsons. And before we get into that, 117 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: I want to do something fun where we we draft 118 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: our favorite Simpsons episodes from the nineties. So we're building 119 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: a mount Rushmore of Simpson's episodes, and the rules are 120 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: that will each pick one episode and once one is 121 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: off the board, no one else can pick it. So 122 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna go four episodes here. Since you're the guest, 123 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: kick us off with your first pick in the mount 124 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Rushmore of ninety Simpsons episodes. 125 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a don't know out 126 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: there pick, But I'm gonna go first with Itchy and 127 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: Scratchy and Puucci because I think it was sort of 128 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: their best meta episode commentary about the fans and sort 129 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: of about what the show became and how difficult it 130 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: was to maintain its peak, and I think in a 131 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: perfect world that almost would have been the finale of 132 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: the show. I just think it really encapsulated the challenges 133 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: that they had to again continue making the show the 134 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: funniest thing on television, and really it showed how damn 135 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: impossible it was and how you just couldn't please everyone. 136 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: And it was sort of around the time where internet 137 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: fans were becoming a thing. And as you can imagine, 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: Simpsons fans are pretty eggheaded and nerdy, and I was 139 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: one of them, and they were early Internet adopters, and 140 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: they were saying that the show was going back in 141 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: the early nineties, which is insane. 142 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: I've never thought about it like that. That they didn't 143 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: have to really take all that criticism that shows now 144 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: get with social media because you had the people hating 145 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: on it, but they didn't really see it as instantly 146 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: as you do now. 147 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the writers, again, they were at the 148 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: time just sort of as nerdy and eggheaded as the fans, 149 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: so they too would get what they had early dial 150 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: up internet connections, and they kind of loved seeing what 151 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: the fans said. But like anything with the Internet, it 152 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: sort of devolves into this piling on and eventually they 153 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: sort of got annoyed with that too. 154 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: All right, So we're going with Itching and Scratchy and 155 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Pucci as your number one pick. For number one, I'm 156 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: gonna go with Bart gets famous. I think for me 157 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: working in show business doing radio and podcasts now as 158 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: a kid, I thought it was the coolest thing ever, 159 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: Like to see somebody working in show business and you're like, oh, 160 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: you must have the coolest life. And I actually got 161 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: into working in it, and I'll say I still love it. 162 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: But there's also that side that people don't often see 163 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, of how much of a grind it is. 164 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: My favorite quote from that is I wish I was dead. Wow, 165 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: being in show business is like a dream. 166 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: We're really lucky, aren't we. 167 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Which show was good? 168 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: It's funny because I had interviewed Conan O'Brien about March 169 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: Versus the Monorail, and he talked about people asking him 170 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: all the time about creative work and what he's worked on, 171 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: and he said it was always sort of disappointing to 172 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: them because as much as he loved it, like these 173 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: magic moments, he said, basically, we're just eating fried food, 174 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: writing longhand on a notepad, driving his four tourus into 175 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: the Fox lot on a weekend. You know, the magic 176 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: came later after the thing was created. Creating it itself. 177 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: It was rarely romantic. 178 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, even if you look at where they 179 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: would write in the show, it's like this crappy, like 180 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: hotel looking place where there's nothing going on there exactly. 181 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: All right, what's your next pick? 182 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with mister Plow. I think it's a 183 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: great combo of silly, emotional, ridiculous and started. It was 184 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: right when the show started to scratch the surface of 185 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: what it could do beyond family drama. 186 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I love that episode. 187 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: Oh, mister Plow, that's my name? That name again is 188 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: mister Plow. 189 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I feel that that is just one of those defining 190 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Homer moments out of the entire series. I think I 191 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: just love the rivalry between him and Barney in that episode, 192 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: because Barney, for the most part, is this unambitious, just 193 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: character the entire time, and then out of nowhere, he's like, 194 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best plow guy in Springfield. 195 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: It's it's definitely like a he, you know, breaks character 196 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: to film a commercial with Linda Ronstat that you just 197 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: don't like, get that kind of thing later with Barney. 198 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: That's a great pick. I think with number two, I'm 199 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna go with twenty two short films about Springfield. I 200 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: think it's just such an ambitious episode that they haven't 201 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: replicated since. I just love how every single story intertwines, 202 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: and I think as a kid, that is the episode 203 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: that blew my mind the most, just because how complex 204 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: it is. 205 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Bill Oakley, who sort of shepherded that episode, talked 206 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: about how he did not expect the idea to fly, 207 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: and he was the showrunner, so I think he basically 208 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: was like, all right, we're gonna do it and pushed 209 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: it through. And I think they all sort of drew 210 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: ideas out of it or drew characters out of a 211 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: hat to pick how they would write the episode. 212 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: All Right, what you got for your next pick? 213 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with last Sexit the Springfield. 214 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Ah, that's a good one that was on my list. 215 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of a it's a cliche now, but 216 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: people love that episode. 217 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: That Oldlin Lisa needs Bracious Dan, Oldlin Lisa Needs Bracius. 218 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: Has a bunch of good jokes. It's like a lot 219 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: of social commentary in it with talk about unions and 220 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: all the dental stuff is very very funny. 221 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: If we give up our dental plan, I'll have to 222 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: pay for less precious. 223 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: That's an episode that gets referenced the most. I feel 224 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: like that's a classic episode. That's a good for number three. 225 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: For number three. I'm going to go with an episode 226 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: that has been my longest favorite episode. I think it 227 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: would be number one for probably the majority of my life. 228 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: But it's Homie the Clown, and I think it's because 229 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: of the story of how there was always going to 230 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: be at one point a reveal that Krusty the Clown 231 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: was Homer Simpson, and this whole time that Bart is 232 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of idolizing this character that it's actually his dad 233 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: the whole time in makeup, Like, I wish they would 234 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: have made that happen at some point. I get that 235 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: Krusty becoming a bigger figure probably would have made that 236 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more confusing, but I think it was 237 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: that whole idea of Bart idolizing somebody that easily could 238 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: have been his dad, and then just hilarious like physical 239 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: comedy in that episode, the. 240 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: First maybe five minutes where Homer is being wooed to 241 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: go to Clown College is definitely like a top five 242 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: sequence in the show's history. 243 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole sequel, like him seeing the billboard and 244 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: then playing with his mashed potatoes and that's it. I'm 245 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: going to Clown College. One of the most out of 246 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: pocket things he's ever said in the series. Yes, Homie, 247 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: that's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. 248 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: I'm going to clone college. 249 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us expected him to say that. 250 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: It's definitely an early like, Oh, Homer is getting more 251 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: stupid and more out there and his family is starting 252 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: to notice, which it was always there, but it wasn't 253 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: quite as pronounced until then. 254 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I think I love that evolution of Homer where they 255 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: he went from just being the dad to be I 256 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: guess everybody watching kind of expected him to get dumber 257 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: and dumber as the show went along, and maybe that 258 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: was a little bit of a detriment to the show 259 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: later in seasons, like getting into late nineties and early 260 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: two thousands, where he got a little bit too dumb. 261 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Did you think Homer got too dumb in the nineties. 262 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: I would say the nineties was the peak of his stupidity, 263 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: and it really worked. I mean it was sort of fun. 264 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: I think for the writers to take Homer again, make 265 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: him stupider, and place him in these crazy situations where 266 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: he should be smart but he's not, Like going to space. 267 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: You know. That was controversial at the time but ended 268 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: up being very funny. 269 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: All right, your final pick and your mount rushmore of 270 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Simpsons episodes from the nineties. 271 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Lisa's Substitute. It's a season two 272 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: episode with Dustin Hoffman as the guest star. I think 273 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: it was maybe the earliest, true, incredible classic of the show. 274 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you. 275 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Whenever you feel like you're alone 276 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: and there's nobody you can rely on, this is all 277 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: you need to know. 278 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister. 279 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 280 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: The heartwarming Lisa episodes in the nineties were some of 281 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: the best because she gave balance to the show in 282 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: ways that the other Simpson's family members really couldn't. Because 283 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: you have Homer, like we're talking about, being a complete idiot. 284 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Bart was like the rock star of the show in 285 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: the early nineties, and then she kind of brought everything 286 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: down to a human level. What do you love the 287 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: most about Lisa Simpson. 288 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean, she's the show's moral center, and I think 289 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: people kind of unfairly like view her as a kill joy, 290 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: But she is the closest thing to the audience, I 291 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: would say in terms of character, especially like hardcore Simpsons fans, 292 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, like again kind of nerdy eggheaded, sweet, but 293 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: also likes to lord her intelligence over other people. She's 294 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: definitely one of the more vulnerable characters, and that can 295 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: lead to some really really good episodes. Anything with Lisa 296 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: and Homer together, contrasted, is always really good. 297 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: For my final pick, I think I'm gonna go with 298 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: Marge Be Not Proud. That is an episode that I 299 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: watch every single year. I think it's obviously the bone 300 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: Storm reference is one of my favorites of all time, 301 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: but I think that one has the most heartwarming message 302 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: to me of like Bart getting older, him being so 303 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: just distraughd, of not just making his parents mad, but 304 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, them being disappointed in him, And I think 305 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: that's like one of his most defining moments of like, oh, 306 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Bart actually has some sensibilities here that aren't just like 307 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: him doing dumb radical things. 308 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very guilty about stealing the video, and it's 309 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: funny that they or maybe not funny, but it's interesting 310 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: that they so when he steals it, like it's like 311 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: he steals it and he realizes he can't enjoy this 312 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: thing that he stole. It's just kind of miserable to 313 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: him after that dailing. 314 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: How could you we live in a society of laws. 315 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: Why do you think I took it all those Police 316 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: Academy movies for fun? 317 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't hear anybody. 318 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: Laughing, did you, except that that guy who made sound effects? 319 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: Whoa whoom? Where was I? Oh? Yeah, stay out. 320 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: Of my boots? All right? 321 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: So those are our Mount Rushmore picks. The book is 322 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: called Stupid TV, Be More Funny, which is a quote 323 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: from an episode where Homer bangs on the TV trying 324 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: to get the comedian on the screen to be more 325 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: funny because he doesn't get the jokes TV, but TV 326 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: more funny? Was this always the phrase that you wanted 327 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: to pick for the name of the book? 328 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: You know, it took me a little while to settle 329 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: on that. I like it because, first of all, he 330 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: was watching Garrison Keeler, which is really funny. That's what 331 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Homer was mad at. I don't think he understood Garrison 332 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: Keeler at the time. Prairie Home Companion was a little 333 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: advanced for him at that moment. I just thought it 334 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: sort of summed up what The Simpsons was about, which 335 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: was elevating TV in a way. This was sort of 336 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: before prestige TV was a phrase and it was I think, 337 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, unequivocally smarter than anything else on you know, 338 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: at the time, there were funny sitcoms, for sure, but 339 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: the Simpsons was just on a different level. 340 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: From that phrase, that quote. What are some other quotes 341 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: that have kind of become a part of your everyday 342 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: vocabulary because of The Simpsons? Because I have so many 343 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: of these, I. 344 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: Think it shifts. But lately it's been doctor Nick saying, 345 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: you know, the most rewarding part was when he gave me. 346 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: The most rewarding part was when he gave me my money. 347 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: And that's it. You know, any kind of it applies 348 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: to any sort of cynical either money grab or just 349 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: like on a work setting when you're sort of down 350 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: about something. It kind of reminds me of the you know, 351 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: don Draper like that, that's what the money's for. 352 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: One that has kind of creeped into my vocabulary recently 353 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: that I realized I've been saying here for so long, 354 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: is and how whenever Homer he's talking about whenever he 355 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: learns a new piece of information, he forgets an old 356 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: piece of information. 357 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Every time I learned something new, it pushes some old 358 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: stuff out. 359 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Of my brain. 360 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: Remember, when I took that home wine making course and 361 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: I forgot how to drive. 362 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: That's because you want drunk. And I've said and how 363 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: so many times that I kind of forget that it's 364 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: a phrase that nobody uses anymore. And then it's a 365 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: phrase from like the nineteen twenties slaying. 366 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that show was so good at taking these like 367 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: little inconsequential phrases and kind of shoving them into the lexicon, 368 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: like doe was originally written to the script as like 369 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: annoyed grunt, and Dan Casselnetta just made it his own 370 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: and the word met, you know, free word. I don't 371 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: think the Simpsons came up with that, but they use 372 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: it all the time. And I guarantee, you know, I'm 373 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: forty one, people ten years younger, ten years older, like 374 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: in that range. That's where they got the use of 375 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: that word, for sure. 376 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: So in your research for this book, how much of 377 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: the Simpsons did you had to dive into and at 378 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: what point did you get sick of them? 379 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: I rewatched a bunch of classic episodes, but the thing 380 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: is that was sort of in my media diet already, 381 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: so I definitely didn't get sick of it. I would 382 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: say towards the end of the research process, I was like, 383 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: I just can't watch anymore. I don't want to get 384 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: sick of it, Like this is my favorite thing in 385 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: the world. I don't want to be susceptible to losing 386 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: the love. And it never really happened. You know, since 387 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: I've put the finishing touches on the book, I've definitely 388 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: gone back and watched more. 389 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: A theory I kind of have is when we I 390 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: rewatched some episodes in preparation for this, and I realized 391 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: how much they would reference things that were so niche 392 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: and so obscure at a time when I didn't know 393 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: what was happening. I didn't know they were referencing old 394 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: TV shows, old songs, and it seemed like the writers 395 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: at that time were just these hardcore Harvard nerds who 396 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: would really dive into these really just deep things that 397 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: nobody else was gonna get. But now it's the people 398 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: who grew up with the show, like you and I, 399 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: who are a part of the writing staff now, who 400 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: are a part of it, who they're almost referencing the 401 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: episodes they grew up with more than referencing those other things. 402 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: Do you find that that is kind of what is 403 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: happening not only with The Simpsons, but even other media 404 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: franchises like Star Wars. It's that kind of evolution of 405 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: the fan now becoming a part of the driving force. 406 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's definitely the trend. I think that 407 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: can be good and bad. I mean, I think again, 408 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: like in mid century directors, all these these guys and 409 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: it was mostly men. You know, they fought in wars, 410 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: they had lives, and you know, then you look at 411 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: like Quentin Tarantino, who grew up on movies and all 412 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: his movies reference other movies, which is great. I just 413 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: think it sort of creates a different kind of cinema 414 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: or TV. But yeah, like, no one who worked in 415 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: the early Simpsons like obviously grew up on the Simpsons. 416 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Like I think Oakley and Weinstein, who were the showrunners 417 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: in season seven and eight, were the first sort of 418 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: Simpsons fans who really worked on the show, like hardcore 419 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: Simpsons fans who ran the show, and they did a 420 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: really good job. I think of thinking outside the box. 421 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: Focusing now on some film based questions here about the Simpsons. 422 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: What is your favorite movie that the Simpsons have done 423 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: a parody of. 424 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: It's kind of a normy pick. But The Shining I 425 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: think is my favorite movie that they've parodied, just because 426 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: they really do a full parody of it. It's not 427 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: just a scene or one sequence. 428 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: No TV and no beer, make home or something something 429 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: oh crazy, don't mind it, but do. 430 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: Hot out of. 431 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, they really nail every single reference from The Shining, 432 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: from Homer busting down the door to the blood getting 433 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: off on the wrong floor. 434 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: Give me the Bat March, Give me the Bat. Yeah, 435 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: it's very true to the movie, which is pretty incredible. 436 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Was there ever a episode that you watched that you 437 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: didn't realize at the time they were perioding a movie 438 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: and later you're like, oh, that was actually a movie, 439 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: and I gotta go check that movie out now. 440 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: So there are a bunch of those. I think one 441 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: of my favorites is something that I realized was a 442 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: reference maybe three or four years ago, and that was 443 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: in Mister Plow. There is a scene with Homer's truck 444 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: that's on a bridge and it is a shot for 445 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: shot remake from Sorcerer, which is from nineteen seventy seven 446 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: William Freakin Sorcerer, which is a remake of Wages of 447 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: Fear and there's even a like faux tangerine dream score 448 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: in the episode of The Simpsons, and I didn't know 449 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: what the hell that was. I thought, you know, I 450 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: was young. I was like, oh, is this a reference 451 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: to Cliffhanger. I didn't really know. And then I saw 452 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: Sorcerer here in La three or four years ago, and 453 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: like something clicked in my head, and it was almost 454 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: embarrassing because that's sort of the breadth of their references, 455 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: like that movie in the early nineties source or you know, 456 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: I think it came out right around Star Wars got 457 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: buried by Star Wars, so it's not a movie that 458 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: was in the zeitgeist at all, but they parodied it anyway, 459 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: and it was sort of like Rich Moore, as an 460 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 2: animation director, called it like a one percent or there 461 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: was like one percent of the audience that might understand that, 462 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: but they did it anyway, just because that's their sensibility, 463 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: and that's the beauty of the show. 464 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy when you watch some of these episodes 465 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: of how down to the minimal detail that they get 466 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: right when parroting something. 467 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: They Again, this is something I really wanted to hammer home, 468 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: which is this was before Google searches, like you could 469 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: not find stills from movies easily, you know, you couldn't 470 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: just collect them on the internet. So they would have 471 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: interns and PA's run to the archives of various studios 472 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: to find stills of movies whatever they were parotying, whether 473 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: it was Psycho or The Shining or Chinatown or The Godfather, 474 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: and that's how they did it, and it was so 475 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: time consuming. 476 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one for me that I didn't realize 477 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: at the time was a movie was whenever Lisa is 478 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: trying to do this experiment with bar in her hamster 479 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: and he goes to grab the pancakes, I did not 480 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: or the cupcakes, and I didn't realize that was a 481 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: clockwork Orange reference. And then seeing a still of that later, 482 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I had no idea that that's totally 483 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: like a not safe for work reference. 484 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, the show definitely educated us, I think in ways 485 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: that we didn't realize at the time. And I think 486 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: like Kubrick and Hitchcock are two directors that their stuff 487 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: always comes up on The Simpsons. 488 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Aside from The Simpsons teaching us about movies, what is 489 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing the Simpsons has taught you about life. 490 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: I think to have healthy cynicism or skepticism, but also 491 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: that you got to live, you know, you have to 492 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: sort of throw yourself into the world. I think it's 493 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: sort of a mistake that people sometimes people talk about 494 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: how like bleak the show is, or their their attitude 495 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: towards politics, basically that it doesn't work. But I really 496 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: think it is. You know, it does point out these 497 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: bidness of American life in some ways, but there's no 498 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: giving up on the show, and rather the characters don't 499 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: give up, and it's kind of like they have to 500 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: live on. And that I think is what I took 501 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: from the show for sure. 502 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: I got that a lot too. I think, oddly the 503 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: thing I've learned a lot from this show was about marriage. 504 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: I think how good of a husband that Homer is, 505 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: even though he has a lot of flaws, Like growing up, 506 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: my dad didn't really talk to me a whole lot 507 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: about like girls and what to do in these situations. 508 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: And I went to the Simpsons a lot for some 509 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: of that advice of like what happens in this marital 510 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: situation that you have no idea about, Well, what did 511 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: Homer Simpson do? Have you ever used Homer as any 512 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of like moral compass for you. 513 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: I think usually with Homer it was sort of like 514 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: what not to do, and then in the in the 515 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: end it was, well, he still loves Marge, and you know, 516 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: he'd really do you know, he'd do anything for his family. 517 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: That's something that the writer John Swartzwelder basically he said, 518 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: like he tried to write home or like a big dog, 519 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: like you know, lazy, kind of not that smart, but 520 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: he would like kill for his family. And I think 521 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: there's something to admire about that. 522 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: A stupid TV be more funny. Everybody, go pre order 523 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: the book. I'm going to put the link in the 524 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: episode notes of this podcast. What do you hope people 525 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: take away from the book? 526 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: So when I wrote it, I kind of struggled initially 527 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: because I was sort of like, this is this giant 528 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: titan of pop culture and I'm afraid, you know, I'm 529 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: not going to get to everything I want to, and 530 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: I basically was trying to make it definitive without being completest. 531 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: And I think what I'm hoping is people can really 532 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: gather how the show influenced America and how the Simpsons 533 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: in America were intertwined in the nineties, like, I don't 534 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: think you can really tell the story of one without 535 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: the other. 536 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: What was the first step you took in just sitting 537 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: down and writing it? Because it is a massive amount 538 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: to look for. It is so many episodes, so many 539 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: voice actors, so many things that could include what was 540 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: that first step you took up? Like this is me 541 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: starting the book. 542 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: So I made a list of things I wanted to 543 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: hit on, like the you know, the merchandise craze in 544 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: the nineties, because I remembered, you know, when I was 545 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: a kid. It was absolutely insane. I think they sold 546 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: fifteen million Simpsons shirts in the first year of the 547 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: show alone. I wanted to hit on George H. W. 548 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: Bush taking a shot at the show from the campaign 549 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: stump and I do that. And I wanted to kind 550 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: of get the flavor of the writer's room and how 551 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: these guys and it was all guys for better and 552 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: worse really made this thing all right. 553 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: Final question, I am planning on getting a Simpson's tattoo. 554 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: You are the Simpsons expert. What do you think I 555 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: should get that represents the Simpsons in the nineties best. 556 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: I think you gotta go Homer, and I think you 557 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: just like a simple woohoo is a perfect Simpsons tattoo. 558 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: I could get into like more intricate things, you know. 559 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would get Millhouse or you know, 560 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: early bart but I think, actually, you know, for me, 561 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: it would probably be a Lisa tattoo. I think that 562 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: would be the most meaningful. But I think you gotta 563 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: do Homer. 564 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: I was feeling Lisa for you, like, if you've got 565 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: a Simpsons tattoo from what you talked about, I think 566 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: you're going Lisa. 567 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: I agree. I think my tattoo days are over. 568 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one I was thinking of of just getting 569 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: the line I call the big one BiDi. So we're 570 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of right there. On the Homer reference, Mindy has 571 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: a motorcycle. 572 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: I love the Homer like declarative statements. 573 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Well, this has been awesome. I hope everybody pre orders 574 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: the book because why is that so important? I hear 575 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: that all the time. Let the listeners know why pre 576 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: ordering something is so important for artists and creators. 577 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: Because pre ordering is the best way to try to 578 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: get on bestseller lists, and pre orders count towards your 579 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: first week of sales, and that's extremely important. 580 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: So the book comes out in June, but go pre 581 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: order it right now. Alan, Thank you so much for 582 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: the time. 583 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me man. 584 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review 585 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: of The Electric State, starring mainly Bobby Brown Chris Pratt, 586 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: directed by the Russo brothers. Russo brothers have directed great 587 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, like Infinity War Endgame. 588 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Since then, they've done Cherry the Gray Man, which was 589 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: also a Netflix movie with Ryan Gosling. I thought that 590 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: was a fun action movie. But if you look at 591 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: all the reviews and all the talk about The Electric State, 592 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: you'd think this movie had kicked a dog. And I 593 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: will say, is it the best movie ever? No, by 594 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: no means, but does it deserve all the hate it 595 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: has been getting. I don't think so. And maybe it's 596 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: because of all the negativity that I went into this 597 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: movie a little bit differently. But it's hard to avoid 598 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: the Rotten Tomatoes number, and I never let that affect 599 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: me or influence my review, but this one was staggering. 600 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: A critics score of fourteen percent, but the audience score 601 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: is seventy six percent, So even myself, once I saw 602 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: the poster for this movie alone, I thought this looks bad. 603 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: When I saw the trailer, I thought this looks kind 604 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: of bad. I wasn't a fan of the costume design, 605 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: the hair in particular, Chris Pratt's hair looked awful. I 606 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: wasn't buying either him or Millie Bobby Brown in a 607 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: role like this what the movie is about. It takes 608 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: place in a retro futuristic nineteen nineties. Millie Bobby Brown 609 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: has a really smart brother and he dies, at least 610 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: she thinks that he dies, but then he comes back 611 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: as this robot trying to get her attention, trying to 612 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: get her to save him and in turn save the world. 613 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: So she has to go navigate this robotic state where 614 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: humans and robots have been at war. She's living with 615 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Jason Alexander as her foster prayer, which I thought was 616 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of a nice touch. But she has to go 617 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: and team up with Chris Pratt's character to journey to 618 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: this part of the world where robots have kind of 619 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: been banished to You have Stanley Tucci kind of playing 620 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: the bad guy. He's the person responsible for this technology 621 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: where you can put on this helmet and in order 622 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: to defeat the robots, they started to develop their own 623 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: robots where they could take over. They put on this 624 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: helmet and they are essentially able to power these drones remotely. 625 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: My biggest problem with this movie is it felt like 626 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: I'd already watched it before. In this movie, the robots 627 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: get tired of doing the jobs that they were assigned to, 628 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 1: so they become a little bit smarter, a little bit 629 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: more self aware, and they start fighting back against the humans, 630 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: and the humans find a way to defeat the robots 631 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: and banish them, so the robots become the bad guys. 632 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: But now that her brother is a robot, she has 633 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: to save him. Aside from creating a semi interesting world, 634 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: there wasn't anything that felt unique to this movie. Just 635 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of felt like generic futuristic robot movie. And I 636 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: think it's also because I have a lower standard when 637 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: it comes to Netflix original movies, despite them throwing every 638 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: single actor in this movie from not only Millie, Bobby 639 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Brown and Chris Pratt, Acky Hui Kuan, Jason Alexander. Like 640 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned, Woody Harrelson is the voice of the robotic 641 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: mister Penut, which at first I thought it was Matthew McConaughey. 642 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: They do sound very similar, so who knows they might 643 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: be brothers. Anthony Mackie is the robot best friend to 644 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: Chris Pratt. You have Brian Cox, Jenny slat All doing voices, 645 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Jihn Carlo Esposito pretty much doing the same thing he's 646 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: been doing in every movie playing the bad guy. He 647 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: does it so well. It just felt like they took 648 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: every big actor through it in this movie, put them 649 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: as voices, and nothing really stood out. Because of that, 650 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to our two leads, let's look at 651 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: the positives and the negatives. I like Millie Bobby Brown. 652 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: I think her name alone is reason enough for me 653 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: to watch a movie. It's the reason I continue to 654 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: dip into these Netflix movies because I want her to 655 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: succeed post Stranger Things, which I think is really hard 656 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: for any child actor. And I think she and her 657 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: people did a really good job of distinguishing her from 658 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: the other cast of Stranger Things and making it very 659 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: much her separate Mille Bobby Brown, who is a part 660 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: of Stranger Things, but she wants to go on and 661 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: do other movies like Damsel and Nola Holmes and adding 662 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: more movies like this to her resume. I just think 663 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to her acting ability, it's just not 664 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: quite there. And it could be because a lot of 665 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: this movie is a lot of blue screen, which Russo 666 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: Brothers do a lot of work in, and it just 667 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: feels like at times her acting is a little bit empty, 668 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: and sometimes she over sells the emotional scenes, which I 669 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: found just a little bit distracting. There are moments that 670 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: do require a little bit more emotion, but I just 671 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: didn't really feel it in her performance, and I'm not 672 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: sure she showed me that outside a Stranger Thing, and 673 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: maybe it works in that Stranger Things world, but I 674 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: just haven't seen that next level of acting from her 675 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: outside of Stranger Things. And then we get to Chris Pratt, 676 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: which I think is another major reason why people are 677 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: ripping this movie to shreds. There is Chris Pratt fatigue 678 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: that no matter what he comes out in now, people 679 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: are going to not want to watch it because we've 680 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: had so much of him. I'm still not quite there 681 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: all the time. The only movie that I was upset 682 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: he got cast in was whenever he was the voice 683 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: of Super Mario. It just felt like the same Chris 684 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: Pratt voice, and I wanted something a little bit more 685 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: unique there. He is kind of like the industry standard. Hey, 686 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: we need a straight white male in a role who 687 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: can bring money at the box office or get eyeballs 688 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: on a streaming movie. Let's get Chris Pratt. I'm not 689 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: fully in the I dislike Chris Pratt and everything he 690 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: does now, because he did do a lot of great things. 691 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, just a couple of years ago Guardians of 692 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: the Galaxy three. I don't think anybody felt that there 693 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: is just everything outside in the action world. Whenever he 694 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: is in a movie, I feel like people just automatically 695 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of it. His acting 696 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: in this movie was also a little bit flat, and 697 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: I think when you put him next to Millie Bobby Brown, 698 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: there's not really one person leading the charge here. But 699 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: I honestly think what it comes down to you is 700 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: it the blue screen nightmare. This entire movie is probably 701 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: a victim of that. And that's what you get when 702 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: you don't build a whole lot of sets and you 703 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: focus a lot on CGI robots and backgrounds. But you 704 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: have to do that in order to build a world 705 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: like this. And they did spend a lot of money 706 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: on making this movie. So while they did do I 707 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: got a decent job at creating this world. About forty 708 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: minutes in, I felt that that went by pretty quick. 709 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: I think that was the sign of an entertaining movie. Again, 710 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: it's not the most stimulating. It's unfortunately a movie that 711 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: you could have on in the background and just kind 712 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: of enjoy and still kind of go along with it. 713 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of when you would just throw 714 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: on a movie on cable that was interesting enough. Like 715 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: I could see the commercial breaks inside of this movie. 716 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: It was that level of entertainment, and that doesn't make 717 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: it bad to me. That is kind of the streaming 718 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: standard now. So I found it entertaining enough through the end. 719 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Even though the movie felt kind of like painting my numbers, 720 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: I kind of knew what was gonna happen, what was 721 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: going to come. All the emotional ups and downs were 722 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: already in my head happening, and I thought it was 723 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: entertaining enough. I enjoyed living in this world. I think 724 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: it's also probably catered to a younger viewer, so all 725 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: the people ripping it to shreds online or probably people 726 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: around my age older than me who think this movie 727 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: is an abomination I also think this movie probably isn't 728 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: for you. It's for the fan of Straights, the younger 729 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: fan who is more of the gen Z audience and 730 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: going to resonate more with Millie Bobby Brown. Of course, 731 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna get it. And those people watching 732 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: this movie and enjoying it haven't seen all those movies 733 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: from the eighties that you think it's reminiscent of. Haven't 734 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: seen all those movies from the nineties because those movies 735 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: are ancient to them. So the Electric State does probably 736 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: feel more fresh and new to them, and it could 737 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: be their next favorite movie. And I don't want to 738 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: keep some kid from enjoying that. I'm also not going 739 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: to Die on the Hill by any means that this 740 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: is a great movie that people are completely missing. It 741 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: is pretty average by today's standards. But when I look 742 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: at other Netflix original movies, which is always how I 743 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: compare every single movie to you like what is around 744 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: it in this genre? I think of Rebel Moon, which 745 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: was a complete disaster. The first one was all style, 746 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: no substance. The second one was much of the same, 747 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: so bad that I couldn't even finish that one. This 748 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: movie actually has some substance with a little bit of style. 749 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: So it's like right in the the middle on both those. 750 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: But the thing was I kept watching till the very end. 751 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: Unlike those other Netflix original movies that I dipped out. 752 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: There are movies on Netflix that I started, maybe got 753 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes of, and I was like, I don't 754 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: care where this is going. I'm out the electric state. 755 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: I watched it all the way through. And that is 756 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: the big thing with Netflix. They want people to start 757 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: and not only start them, but complete their movies. That 758 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: is the sign of success here. That is why this 759 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: movie is gonna be at number one on Netflix, because 760 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: even though people are hating it, people are clicking on 761 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: it and people are watching it. I don't love that 762 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: because if all you're caring about is completion rate, I mean, 763 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: Netflix makes movies now that they're like, okay, we got 764 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: to overstate things because some people just have this on 765 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: in the background. Some people are watching on their phone 766 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: or their iPad. They have characters sometimes announcing things that 767 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: they are doing for the people who were distracted doing 768 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: other things while they are watching Netflix. I don't like that. 769 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: For film, they might get to a point where they 770 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: install or encourage you to install these little cameras, or 771 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: they use your phones on your TVs so they can 772 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: look at your eyes and when you're looking at the 773 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: screen and not looking at the screen, and using that 774 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: for data on how they make movies. I don't like 775 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: that aspect of filmmaking, but I think that's just the 776 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: state of the world and them deciding on what they 777 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: want to invest in and how they want to make movies. 778 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: That's a whole other streaming world that'll probably be different 779 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: here in five years if they continue to lose money 780 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: on movies like this, and I don't even think they're 781 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: necessarily losing money on The Electric State, but it's not 782 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: doing them any favors by all the negative reviews that 783 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: they are getting. So maybe it's also me fighting a 784 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: little bit for this movie because I don't think it's 785 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: as bad as people are saying. Because I think for 786 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: the most part, if you like sci fi movies and 787 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: you click on The Electric State just looking for a 788 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: popcorn movie that you can sit down and watch with 789 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: your family on like a Friday night, I think this 790 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: is actually perfect for that. It has a little something 791 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: for everybody. It doesn't really excel at anything that it does, 792 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: but it's a very crowd pleasing movie in my opinion, 793 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: and some people are freaking out because they don't want 794 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: this to be the last project leading into the Russo 795 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: Brothers taking on the next Avengers movies. I think, to me, 796 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: this still proves that they can deal with a lot 797 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: of actors, can deal with a lot of action, which 798 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: is going to be up to an incredible level in 799 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: the next Avengers movies. I heard that I think Disney 800 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: or Marvel gave the Russo Brothers a deck of cards 801 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: with every single person cast in the Avengers movie as 802 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: far as how many movies they have left in their contract, 803 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: how much they are paying each of these people, and 804 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: how much they have left to pay these people because 805 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: it's so hard to keep track of. I think that's 806 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: why you hire these guys, because they can deal with 807 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: this amount of talent. There's two of them. They know 808 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: how to make a movie set for the big screen, 809 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: and I think they still prove that in the Electric State. 810 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: It's just kind of a mix of probably all the 811 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: movies that they grew up with and loved, so normally 812 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: I probably would have given this movie a two point 813 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: five out of five, but to combat all the negativity 814 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that I watched it and finished it 815 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: all in one sitting and didn't feel the need to 816 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: click off of it. For that reason, I give this 817 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: movie three out of five robots, which is right there 818 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: at that D level. I think it's probably a week three, 819 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: but a really strong two point five. But for all 820 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: that hate, I'm gonna bump it up to a three 821 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: because I think that score is right there at that 822 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: I still think it's worth a stream. It's not gonna 823 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: change your life. It's not gonna be one of your 824 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: favorite movies of the year. I think if it would 825 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: have made two more wrong decisions, it probably would have 826 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: been in the bad category for me. But for right now, 827 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: three out of five robots for the Electric State. 828 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie. 829 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: Mike Traylor, Paul, you know me, I love me a 830 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: good horror movie, and I can't decide if I'm gonna 831 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: love or hate this one. So by the end of 832 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: this trailer park, that is the decision we are going 833 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: to make here as part of the movie crew. It 834 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: is called The Woman in the Yard. It is about 835 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: a mysterious woman who keeps repeatedly appearing across in a 836 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: family's front yard, keeps delivering these chilling warnings, saying all 837 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: these weird things, unsettling messages, leaving them to question their identity, 838 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: motives and a potential danger that she might possess. Now, 839 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: what it looks like is you have a mom or 840 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: two kids. Apparently the dad died somehow, probably in a 841 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: car wreck, because in this trailer you see this car 842 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: up here that's all smashed up. This trailer has a 843 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: lot of cliches, but some good pieces of it. It 844 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: is coming to us from the director of Black Adam, 845 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: carry On an Orphan, which is a pretty vast different 846 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: just selection of movies there. If you told me the 847 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: same guy, he who directed carry On last year, which 848 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: was the movie that was like die Hard in an Airport, 849 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: which Diehard too is also Diehard in an Airport. But 850 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: that's the best way to describe that movie that came 851 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: in on Netflix and it was like their biggest movie 852 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: of the year. For him to follow that up with 853 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: this one, it just almost doesn't quite fit here because 854 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: carry On was a bigger budget movie. Black Adam was 855 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: a really big budget movie. Orphan is like still in 856 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: that horror space. But to see somebody go from that 857 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: to this, which feels like a really bare bones horror movie. 858 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: It's coming to us from Blumhouse, who is notorious for 859 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: doing this. I think they're one of the most profitable 860 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: horror studios because they make movies for eight to ten 861 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: million dollars and then really try to cash in on 862 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: their investment by the marketing. And there are some red 863 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: flags going on in this trailer. Before I give all 864 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: of my ideas away, here was just a little bit 865 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: of the woman in the yard trailer. And mom is 866 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: a woman in the yard. Hello, can I help you out? 867 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: My husband will be back very soon. 868 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 4: We both know your husband's not coming home. I don't 869 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 4: come unless i'm called today. 870 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Why is your face covered? How did she get here? 871 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: I think she's closer, So today is the day. The 872 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: question is where did this woman come from? What does 873 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: she want when? And will she ever leave? Who's gonna die? Well, 874 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: only the woman in the yard knows. So before I 875 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: get into my red flags, let's talk about my green 876 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: flags here. I do like the overall idea of a 877 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: woman showing up in the yard and that being the 878 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: horror element. There is a cool thing that she does 879 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: to actually mess with the people inside the house and 880 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: is able to manipulate things and move things. She uses 881 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,959 Speaker 1: the power of the sun to create shadows, and through 882 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: that she can move the lif she invades the house. 883 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: They even in this trailer kind of start to figure 884 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: that out. But I think that is interesting, because how 885 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: do you make a movie that's an hour and a 886 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: half interesting of a woman just sitting there covered entirely 887 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: in black, just saying things weirdly making things appear. This 888 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: movie kind of feels like those episodes of TV shows 889 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: they refer to as bottle episodes where they can't really 890 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: go anywhere else. They try to limit the different sets 891 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: so they don't have to spend a lot of money. 892 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: This is what this movie is. It takes place pretty 893 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: much primarily from what we see in this trailer in 894 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: one location, which I do like when movies do that, 895 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: because you have to be really inventive on how to 896 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: move this story along and how to bring elements in, 897 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: in this case from the supernatural that are gonna make 898 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: it entertaining for those ninety minutes. So I think it's 899 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: kind of a green flag, but also kind of a 900 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: red flag because sometimes I've been burned by these Blumhouse 901 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: movies that are ninety minutes long that give you this 902 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: trailer which pretty much tells you everything that is going 903 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: to happen. I really get a glimpse of the entire 904 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: plot through this trailer, but they're trying to entice you 905 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: in with showing you all those scary parts, and I 906 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: fear that there's not gonna be anything else scarier in 907 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: the actual movie. So in it having a small budget, 908 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: I feel like there's gonna be moments that are really 909 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: really stretched out to fill that time. It was almost 910 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: like they said, we need to make this movie ninety 911 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: minutes long. If you've ever written a paper that needed 912 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: to be a certain page length, and you start writing 913 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: sentences in way you would never say them in your 914 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: real life, adding all these extra words and filler words 915 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: to beef up that paper to give it some girth, 916 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: and you're increasing the font to like twelve point five 917 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't make it look completely obvious 918 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: that you don't have a whole lot to say in 919 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: your paper. That is also the vibes I'm getting from 920 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: The Woman in the Yard so far. So I do 921 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: like some of the horror aspects. I like the family 922 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: dynamic at the beginning, where it's just them chilling, having 923 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: a good time. Everything is normal. They make some eggs, 924 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: the sun makes them with doritos, so hopefully there's a 925 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: bit of a bonding moment there with the family, and 926 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: there's the whole mystery of what happened to the dad. 927 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: I gotta know, is you gonna pop up? Is the 928 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: woman in the yard gonna make them a zombie and 929 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: freak out all the kids? That could be cool, but 930 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of cliches. So we'll get to 931 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: the red flags now. They say the name of the 932 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: movie in the trailer. I like it when they save 933 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: that for the actual movie. It just feels like a 934 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: really weird delivery, like there's a woman in the yard 935 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: and that's the entire movie, all right, that's it. Just 936 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: close up the windows. We don't have to pay attention 937 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: to or end of movie. But really, the biggest red 938 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: flag of this entire trailer, it does the big cliche, 939 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: the cliche I hate in horror movie trailers that you 940 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: know is coming. Whenever there's some kind of a ghost, 941 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: there's some kind of a demon. There's always this part 942 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: where the family or the main character gets into a 943 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: situation where they're waiting for the monster to appear. It 944 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: gets really quiet and dark, and you're just waiting for 945 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: that moment for the jump scare where they give you 946 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: a glimpse of the monster. You get a big sound effect. 947 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: They appear boom in the trailer. Whenever a movie does that, 948 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: I just don't know that there's nothing else that's gonna happen. 949 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: There's no other moment to wait for to go see 950 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: that movie. They've already given it to you in the trailer. 951 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: That's a shot. I'm not gonna be anticipating that moment 952 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: anymore because I already know it's coming. I experienced that 953 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: in the first Smile movie. They showed you the oh, 954 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: the best part of the movie that would have been 955 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: a great jump scare in theaters, that was in the trailer. 956 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: Blumhouse has done that with Imaginary. They show you the 957 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: best part of the movie in the trailer, so then 958 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: there's nothing to look forward to. It's the same way 959 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: when you make a comment and you put your best 960 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: joke in the trailer, you're not going to really laugh 961 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: at it again when you go see it in theaters. 962 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: So out of everything that is the biggest red flag 963 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: for me. And I'll give you a warning now because 964 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: I do want to play it just so I can 965 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: explain to you how infuriating this to me. But be 966 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: aware that there is a jump scare coming. So if 967 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: you're listening in your car or in the gym, just 968 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 1: know that there is a moment where it's gonna get 969 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: really loud. So here's that moment and then boom and 970 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: the trailer. They also use like the uplifting music method, 971 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: where it's like, here's a really nice, cheerful song over 972 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: some dark imagery that every horror movie does. Now they 973 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: don't really incorporate it too much. But the other cliche 974 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: that I see and hear a lot is that weird, 975 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: creepy violin sound that almost sounds if you took rubber 976 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: bands and put them on a box and we're just 977 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: like twisting them over the box, like if we had 978 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: a thing of takeout, you know, sometimes you put a 979 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: rubber band over it kind of sounds like this, Like 980 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: anytime a trailer has that and it's doing all these 981 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: crazy cuts in between weird imagery, like a close up 982 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: on an eye, a single blood drop, a doll in 983 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: the attic with its head ripped off, and you hear 984 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: this sound, you just know it's gonna be the horror 985 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: movie of the year, the scariest movie in theaters. Ever, So, 986 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: the real reason I think this movie has potential is 987 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: because of the director to go from Black Adam and 988 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: carry on an Orphan, which was a pretty good horror 989 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: movie back in the day, at least the concept of it. 990 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: It gives me a little bit more confidence that there's 991 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna be more to this story to actually make it 992 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: worth seeing in theaters, that it's not just gonna be 993 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: one of those fast fashion horror movies that you go 994 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: see and you're like, man, I've already seen this time 995 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: and time again. I feel scammed by this. And I 996 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: don't say this to try to sound snobby. I don't 997 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: try to say this to sound like a overly critical person. 998 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: It's just I know who this movie appeals to. Like 999 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: my mother in law saw this trailer and asked if 1000 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna go see it, And I think it 1001 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: is those people that I want to have a great 1002 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: experience when they go watch a movie in theaters, because 1003 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,879 Speaker 1: they're investing their time, they're investing their money, and if 1004 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: you go for the first time in a while and 1005 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 1: you see this and you're like, man, that sucked. Everything 1006 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: is terrible. Now, that is where I draw the line, 1007 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: Because there are great horror movies out there. You have 1008 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: to look for them sometimes, and I know sometimes the 1009 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,760 Speaker 1: movies that get to the most people aren't the best ones. 1010 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 1: So I just hope, for the sake of my mother 1011 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: in law who's gonna go see this movie, that they 1012 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: don't let her down and they don't make her waste 1013 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: her time and waste your money. So I'm always looking 1014 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: out for you in that sense. That's why I'm so 1015 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: critical about these movies sometimes. But again, the woman in 1016 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: the Art coming out in theaters this Friday, March twenty eighth, 1017 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: And that was this week's edition of Movie Line Tramer 1018 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: par and that is gonna do it for another episode 1019 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta 1020 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: give my listeners shout out of the week. This week, 1021 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: I'm going over to x. I posted a clip from 1022 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 1: last week's episode talking about my top ten baseball movies. 1023 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: What I felt was the saddest moment in any sports 1024 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 1: movie was from Angels in the Outfield. This week's listener 1025 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: shout out is a reply to that video from Aaron 1026 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: at so Dak Jack Mama on Ax, who said, just 1027 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: introduce my seven and nine year old to this movie. 1028 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: They are hooked this and Little Giants is going on 1029 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: repeat at our house. That just warms my heart because 1030 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: I've been talking about how these movies that we grew 1031 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: up with in the nineties that don't really get made anymore. 1032 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: It is very rare that you find a film that 1033 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: comes out with an all kid cast and just has 1034 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: that nostalgic feeling of reminding us what it's like to 1035 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 1: be kids. So even though we don't have them coming 1036 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: out as frequently as we do now, I do love 1037 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: that Aaron and hopefully other parents are showing their seven 1038 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: to nine year olds the movies that we grew up with, 1039 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: and the fact that they are actually enjoying them and 1040 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: don't think they are relics and boring things that their 1041 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 1: parents show them is awesome. So I'm glad that people 1042 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: are now watching Angels in the Outfield more that it 1043 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,720 Speaker 1: is available on Disney, plus that it's not just buried 1044 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: in the Disney vault, and Little Giants is an other 1045 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: great ones. So thank you Erin for sharing that thank 1046 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: you for listening, and thank you for commenting on socials. 1047 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: That means a lot to me. If you want to 1048 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: follow me there, you can always find the links to 1049 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: all my social media in the episode notes. That's where 1050 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: I pick my listeners shout outs, or you can email 1051 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: me Moviemike D at gmail dot com. And until next time, 1052 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: go out and watch good movies and I will talk 1053 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 1: to you later