WEBVTT - Ep. 176: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Montgomery County Shine

0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay Nukeleman.

0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.440
<v Speaker 2>This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.759
<v Speaker 2>The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast,

0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:34.400
<v Speaker 2>presented by f HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting

0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.959
<v Speaker 2>and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged as

0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:43.680
<v Speaker 2>the place as we explore. Welcome to the Bear Grease

0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Render Podcast. My, oh my, what an incredible that's not

0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>a microwave beeping.

0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was.

0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I've got to figure out how to make that stop. Joe,

0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.360
<v Speaker 2>it's my computer. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. When

0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.000
<v Speaker 2>people listen to this, this is gonna be after New Years.

0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that first show of the New year,

0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:03.840
<v Speaker 2>first show of the New year?

0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.320
<v Speaker 1>What in honor? And I've got to my right, Joe.

0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Wilson wearing the overalls making up for out so Brent.

0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Brent isn't here, and Joe told me that he was

0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.280
<v Speaker 2>going to be wearing his overalls, so.

0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.440
<v Speaker 1>He did, Yeah, tu facka knife?

0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you really? Are you serious? What are you carrying?

0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I got this one up here and it says it's

0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.000
<v Speaker 3>a Tree Brand.

0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Tree Brand.

0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, it's a nice little folder, and then lock

0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.360
<v Speaker 2>blade folder and then over here I got that case

0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.160
<v Speaker 2>double x. Oh this is your loaner. Yeah, Hayden, do

0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you know about that? You bet?

0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:46.039
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.520
<v Speaker 2>So if you ask Joe for a knife to scratch

0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.320
<v Speaker 2>around on the rims of your truck or something.

0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You'll be like, sure, use this one.

0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.000
<v Speaker 4>He's kind of like that guy he's talking about early.

0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:54.880
<v Speaker 4>What are you gonna use it for?

0:01:55.680 --> 0:02:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, nice, good work, good work, so Joe Wilson.

0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Joe is famous, world famous for the World Championship Squirrel Cookoff.

0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.640
<v Speaker 5>For cooking, but for hosts well for a lot.

0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Of and other stuff too.

0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Podcaster Sheep Dog Steak cooking, Bear Grease. Yeah, you've been

0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:24.480
<v Speaker 2>on Bear Grease several times. So I'll introduce everybody to

0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Joe's right is my lovely wife, mistery newkelemb Hi. Everybody,

0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Great to see you, looking forward to talking with you.

0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh skipping over our mystery guests, Bear John Newcomb making

0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.320
<v Speaker 2>his second appearance on the Bear Grease render who of late.

0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Good to see Bear Bear has been out. He went

0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.880
<v Speaker 2>on a big expedition the other day. Just like told me,

0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.440
<v Speaker 2>how haven't we been gone for a couple of days.

0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been admiring those stories.

0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're true stories. They're true stories.

0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't doubt them. They're great.

0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean he just told me. He was like,

0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's all he would have told me. I

0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.760
<v Speaker 2>think he would have just said, Dad, I'm gonna be

0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.239
<v Speaker 2>gone for a couple of days, and just like expected

0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:11.240
<v Speaker 2>that that was enough information. I'm like, Okay, where are

0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you going going hunting?

0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.920
<v Speaker 4>I can't I do that to my wife.

0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now that's not good.

0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.560
<v Speaker 5>You got a break this habit before you get married.

0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I get one of those spot things now, so she

0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.600
<v Speaker 4>track me. Oh good, Yeah, that way if I have

0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.240
<v Speaker 4>a mule flip over on me, you.

0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Know, that's what it's for.

0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's mainly what it's for. I have one to

0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.480
<v Speaker 4>do that one time.

0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.040
<v Speaker 2>So our mystery guests, Hayden pal, you bet glad to

0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.560
<v Speaker 2>be here, man. So I met Hayden in person for

0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the first time about thirty minutes ago. And so he's

0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.960
<v Speaker 2>been here at the Global Headquarters Misty and I do

0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.280
<v Speaker 2>him like I do every other guest that comes here.

0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.440
<v Speaker 2>They want to talk to me, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, stop,

0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>don't talk now.

0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Joe's one here done.

0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.440
<v Speaker 3>We think Hayden's only got thirty minute. It's where the

0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:00.880
<v Speaker 3>story is.

0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.680
<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's about it, Joe.

0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.960
<v Speaker 2>So if you're ever invited to this podcast, you should

0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:11.200
<v Speaker 2>come thirty seconds early and be silent, and then when

0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you walked in you could just we could just talk.

0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:19.480
<v Speaker 2>But no, Hayden, great, great to have you. You're from Norman, Arkansas.

0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.320
<v Speaker 4>In between there and Kata Gap. Yeah, I don't claim Norman.

0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know which is okay. Yeah, Norman's like where

0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:26.279
<v Speaker 2>the big city folks.

0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.279
<v Speaker 4>That's that's the high rollers. You got to watch this shit.

0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:30.600
<v Speaker 4>They got double wids over there.

0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no times on the roof. I know he's we're joking,

0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:36.520
<v Speaker 1>but we're being serious. Yeah.

0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like wherever you live, the big city is always

0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.839
<v Speaker 2>just a matter of yeah. Uh, it's a matter of context.

0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.000
<v Speaker 2>So if you if you live somewhere like the big city,

0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.720
<v Speaker 2>normans all of fifteen hundred people.

0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Fifteen the three hundred and six.

0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Norman's a little smaller than I remember, three hundred

0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and forty six.

0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Maybe, Okay, So what's cattle gap?

0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Kettle Gap is ninety seven and two good coon dogs?

0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:04.320
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.919
<v Speaker 2>So we were talking. You know, my grandfather, Lewin Newcombe,

0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.200
<v Speaker 2>pastors to church and cattle gap. Yeah, and so we

0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.120
<v Speaker 2>were talking and it's possible that his grandfather went to

0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Mount Gilliababist Church as possible. We're gonna we're gonna do

0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:21.839
<v Speaker 2>some checking.

0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.039
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna check it out. I actually takes my mom

0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.240
<v Speaker 4>here in a minute now, Yeah, I'll figure it out.

0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:27.159
<v Speaker 2>You should have brought your mom.

0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I should have brought my mom.

0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.320
<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't you have done so?

0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:40.360
<v Speaker 2>So Hayden is the reason I invited Hayden three three prongs.

0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a mule man, you bet.

0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.200
<v Speaker 2>He's a musician, you bet. And he's from my home

0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.680
<v Speaker 2>turf down in the Washtoss. That's right east west east

0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.680
<v Speaker 2>east west, baby, that's right. Mountains run east west, even

0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.560
<v Speaker 2>the only the only mountain range between the Appalachians and

0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Rockies that run east and west. Joe, do you know?

0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you know the orogeny of the washtall mountains? Big

0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.279
<v Speaker 2>words sounds weird. It's a powerful word.

0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Break it down.

0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Erogeny is the word for mountain building. Look here, I

0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.719
<v Speaker 2>have a I have a big book up here.

0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, they're real mountains, they are mountains.

0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.479
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have a book about, uh, the origin of

0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:23.240
<v Speaker 2>mountains in the Maria.

0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.080
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of courts. So because I see it

0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:30.159
<v Speaker 3>all alongside the road for five dollars, five dollars, is

0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.240
<v Speaker 3>that how much courts is?

0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I was going to bring one for you, and I'm

0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.240
<v Speaker 4>glad I didn't.

0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you, Okay, we got, we got.

0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.279
<v Speaker 2>We got to establish this real quick about once a

0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.359
<v Speaker 2>year on the Bear Grease render. I like to go

0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.640
<v Speaker 2>into a deep, deep history of the Washtall Those aren't

0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.479
<v Speaker 2>mountains in orogeny. In orogeny, yeah, mountain formation. When the

0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.880
<v Speaker 2>South American continent bumped into the North American continent, it

0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:55.040
<v Speaker 2>buckled in the wash Talls and it caused a fold

0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and when and when those there were sedimentary layers of

0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.920
<v Speaker 2>rock that had been laid down by a shallow ocean.

0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.480
<v Speaker 2>That when when the continent bumped into North America, it folded,

0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:14.200
<v Speaker 2>causing intense heat and pressure, which makes what the Washington

0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Mountains quartz crystals. Well, that's the Washington Mountains quartz crystals,

0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:20.680
<v Speaker 2>metamorphic rock.

0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of slate down at college.

0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.080
<v Speaker 3>It's a great place, great place for spring training of baseball,

0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.160
<v Speaker 3>tea for real. Well, yeah, down there in Hot Springs.

0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.440
<v Speaker 3>That's where all the Major League Baseball teams.

0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Used to try the rest of Hot Springs.

0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, that's where Babe Ruth used to play down

0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.120
<v Speaker 3>there and all those people.

0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.560
<v Speaker 6>I think they've shifted to Arizona. Now, yeah, I think

0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:44.640
<v Speaker 6>that's I don't think we do.

0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.640
<v Speaker 5>Really. Spring training is huge in Phoenix, a good.

0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Year, but it all started in Hot Springs.

0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well back to the interesting stuff. So the Washtall

0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Mountains used to be ten thousand foot tall and snow covered.

0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.760
<v Speaker 4>They declined about nine thousands.

0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, today they're not quite that big. But uh no

0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.400
<v Speaker 2>so so so hayden Is is from down there, and

0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.960
<v Speaker 2>oh I got it. So so I'll come on not

0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.520
<v Speaker 2>right now, umping right into it. Well, I want to

0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.600
<v Speaker 2>ask you about the jar by your feet.

0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't want to tell you about it. Really,

0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:29.960
<v Speaker 4>my buddy Ben Cogburn, I am, Well, what's back up?

0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Me and my boss Rusty, we were he lives over

0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.120
<v Speaker 4>in the ose Arts, but we were talking about I

0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.720
<v Speaker 4>told him about coming here, and uh we were talking

0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.760
<v Speaker 4>about coons because me and him both trapped, and I said,

0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.840
<v Speaker 4>a coon is practically a small bear, and he was

0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.079
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, it is. So then I started doing research

0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:58.160
<v Speaker 4>and you can use the fat off of a coon

0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.200
<v Speaker 4>just like a can of bear ill. So my buddy

0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Ben Cogburn, he caught me too while I was at work,

0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.000
<v Speaker 4>and that is what is in this jar.

0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.520
<v Speaker 2>You rendered some coon grease.

0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.640
<v Speaker 4>It looked a lot better than that.

0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.720
<v Speaker 1>You should start.

0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.439
<v Speaker 2>You should start a spur off podcast called coung grease.

0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, if I knew how to do it, I would.

0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not very technicality.

0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Bear describe what that looks like.

0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Just take a swig of it.

0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just take a big drink of a bear look palatable.

0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.400
<v Speaker 1>It looks like really watery. Don't judge a gravy. Don't

0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.119
<v Speaker 1>judge water gravy.

0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of a it's kind of a chocolate brown.

0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.240
<v Speaker 2>We were discussing how it looks compared to bear grease.

0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Bear grease is uh, it looks different.

0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:41.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a little darker. But it has a great smell.

0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.760
<v Speaker 2>There's there's no you wouldn't smell that grease and think,

0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:47.720
<v Speaker 2>oh that's a coon.

0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Now that's what it looked like.

0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go ahead.

0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh it looked really good.

0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was like beautiful.

0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Ever so coung grease.

0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Nice work, I'm gonna nice. Don't mind. I think I'll

0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:57.520
<v Speaker 1>rim this lid.

0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.240
<v Speaker 4>Stick your fingertick your tongue off.

0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Joe just got the lid and he's got a dollar.

0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Stick your whole finger in that jar. Come on, get

0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.400
<v Speaker 4>the good stuff.

0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.679
<v Speaker 1>You got deeper? Okay, kind of gotta knock the chunks

0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:13.080
<v Speaker 1>off of it.

0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Don't worry about that.

0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just some hair mm licking the finger.

0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a fairly dry grease. Now what does that mean?

0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:22.760
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.160
<v Speaker 4>You're awfully wet?

0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Well so so it's almost like I don't know if

0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.240
<v Speaker 3>you'd put it in a hinge on the door.

0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.000
<v Speaker 4>It's not sticky.

0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not sticky. Duck fat is a dry fat.

0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.640
<v Speaker 4>It's supposed to be good for boots, conditioning, boots and stuff.

0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.720
<v Speaker 1>It's it's doing a number on my lips.

0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.480
<v Speaker 4>What's wrong with it?

0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It ain't tingly or nothing like that. Okay, it's just.

0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.280
<v Speaker 4>Uh like you're gonna go home and render some coode.

0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.880
<v Speaker 3>But I could say, make a great lip bomb. What's

0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.920
<v Speaker 3>that guy's name? He does the bee wax.

0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:55.040
<v Speaker 5>Birds bees?

0:10:55.160 --> 0:11:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I think we got Hayden Coon what it tastes like?

0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:00.960
<v Speaker 1>What did it taste like?

0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a real dry fat, man, I could tell that

0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you probably overcooked it.

0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was fast in a Dutch oven.

0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quick, I think it clays the bear grease master, Joe. No,

0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying.

0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to be I'm just saying I could

0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.480
<v Speaker 3>it tastes like whenever you've got your your drippings from

0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.440
<v Speaker 3>your bacon inside the skillet, you could still taste like

0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:25.160
<v Speaker 3>the crackling.

0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:26.040
<v Speaker 1>That's so.

0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.040
<v Speaker 2>This is a quart Mason jar and it's full just

0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.120
<v Speaker 2>beyond the halfway point. That's quite a bit of coon

0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:32.959
<v Speaker 2>fat to make that.

0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I really didn't go just crazy on it.

0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.160
<v Speaker 2>But I mean like you started probably with over a

0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.760
<v Speaker 2>pound of would you say it's probably a pound? Probably

0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.440
<v Speaker 2>a pound. That's pretty good yield.

0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Though you say, yeah, there was a lot. When they

0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.080
<v Speaker 4>started floating, I was like, Gody, Yeah, did you eat

0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.440
<v Speaker 4>the crackling? My bloodhound did? Yeah, gotcha, he got to

0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:55.160
<v Speaker 4>him before I could.

0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not bad. I think he can make some chocolate

0:11:58.600 --> 0:11:59.600
<v Speaker 3>chip cookies or something.

0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think it's browning. That's good. Joe. You were

0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna give me some fashion advice before we started.

0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, I did something. I've been bald a long time,

0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.720
<v Speaker 3>and I'll just tell you there's great pleasure for a

0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.920
<v Speaker 3>man going to a barber shop. You get to sit there,

0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.440
<v Speaker 3>watch Andy Griffith on the TV, read an ancient magazine,

0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:24.240
<v Speaker 3>hear the local folklore. And since I went bald, I

0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.320
<v Speaker 3>just kept my hair myself. And now I do have this

0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:27.959
<v Speaker 3>shribbery on my face.

0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you, Clay, that's a handsome beard. Joe.

0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, Tuesday, I treated myself to getting a barber shop

0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:39.120
<v Speaker 3>beard trim. Okay, Oh, lasted twenty minutes, had my eyes

0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.120
<v Speaker 3>closed the whole time.

0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Really well, I.

0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Just I wasn't used to people jacking around on my

0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.000
<v Speaker 3>face like that. And you know, they put that scolding

0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.960
<v Speaker 3>hot rag on your face and the whole nine yards.

0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.760
<v Speaker 3>And I was told not to trim it myself for

0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.840
<v Speaker 3>three weeks because I'd already screwed it up. So wait,

0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.920
<v Speaker 3>before I'd just been doing and probably what you do

0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you get some wild hair?

0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.200
<v Speaker 1>And are you? Are you? I feel like you're making

0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of assumptions about my beard.

0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.120
<v Speaker 6>Making some assumptions. There's a lot of inferential things happening here.

0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Look, it's kind of like I took a whole finger

0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.200
<v Speaker 3>at Bear lookungrease, Minica. I'm just telling you for all

0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the men out there, Okay, if you got an extra twenty.

0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Bucks, go in sit down in that chair. Who did it?

0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Some old gal at the barbershop? Okay, I don't know.

0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.760
<v Speaker 3>It's one of those richie places there.

0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, what what barbershop? Was it? Hawk? Something?

0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Because I've got a friend, a friend of the podcast

0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.400
<v Speaker 2>here that I've never shamefully never gone Tom.

0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.280
<v Speaker 6>I'll just be honest, I feel a responsibility to kind

0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.520
<v Speaker 6>of calibrate everything that's being said for Bear John and

0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.000
<v Speaker 6>just let them know not a good idea to refer

0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.160
<v Speaker 6>to women as some old gal. Some old gales actually

0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.480
<v Speaker 6>women who are who get to hold razors close to

0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:55.199
<v Speaker 6>your face.

0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:55.840
<v Speaker 3>With that.

0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:02.160
<v Speaker 7>Well, your bears looks really good. Hudson, Hawk and Bentonville. Okay, okay,

0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:07.439
<v Speaker 7>they did a fine job. That nice lady.

0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.280
<v Speaker 4>If you rub some of that coon grease on your

0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.400
<v Speaker 4>maybe that cures baldness too.

0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Have you tried bease on my Oh you go to

0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:18.719
<v Speaker 5>cure baldness.

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest with you.

0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.280
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of advantages to not having hair on

0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.080
<v Speaker 3>top of you. You don't have to go get a haircut.

0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.479
<v Speaker 3>Number one, you ain't gotta wash it. Number two, don't

0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 3>wash your head.

0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:31.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to.

0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.600
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to wash his hair because it's not there.

0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.680
<v Speaker 3>The water just beads off the top. Hey, I've got

0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:38.560
<v Speaker 3>to indoor shower.

0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me uh. I want to give a

0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit of information about what you just said, the

0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 2>foundations of it, because I just learned this.

0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, they say that bear grease.

0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.480
<v Speaker 2>The folklore around bear grease is that it's a cure

0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.800
<v Speaker 2>for baldness. That's a that's a long time folklorts and

0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the literature says it on the shirt. Yeah, it says it.

0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.840
<v Speaker 2>It says on the shirt. Good point.

0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I learned.

0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Where that came from is that when the Europeans first

0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:13.680
<v Speaker 2>started interacting with Native Americans. The Native Americans, bear grease

0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.760
<v Speaker 2>was a major part of their economy for all kinds

0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of different reasons, and they extensively used, especially the tribes

0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.160
<v Speaker 2>in the southeast that's where this came from, but probably

0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.040
<v Speaker 2>other tribes used bear grease in their hair like they

0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.120
<v Speaker 2>greased their hair like that was a major deal to

0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:36.000
<v Speaker 2>bear grease their hair and Native American men had incredible.

0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Hair, that's true story.

0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.640
<v Speaker 2>And so the white guys that came over here, the

0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Europeans that were all going bald and saw these Native

0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Americans with big, beautiful hair, they assumed that it was

0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.720
<v Speaker 2>the bear grease that keme from going bald.

0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.040
<v Speaker 3>And it's so willing to be your test dummy, but

0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to need a lot of pillow cases because

0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I ain't leaping on some greasy pillow case.

0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.240
<v Speaker 4>I feel like you got to catch it before you

0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.080
<v Speaker 4>go ball that regrow hair. I don't think it will.

0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:08.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.240
<v Speaker 6>I'm concerned now that I know the history that this

0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.120
<v Speaker 6>was a correlation not causation.

0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, and its lasted long into folklore. I mean, I've

0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:26.120
<v Speaker 2>had people we've sent, we've had and it's gone around

0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the world. I've had more than one person not from

0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.480
<v Speaker 2>America contact me wanting bear grease for for baldness. Really,

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:38.640
<v Speaker 2>no doubt, have you done muck tuck negative next time?

0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm well fat, I have I've eaten it.

0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not.

0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I've got a nice head of hair, Joe, I'm not.

0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what that make you lose weight?

0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, fallow it whenever you had yesterday will come

0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 3>up with it. Is uh tough muck tuck. Where we

0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 3>go up in Alaska, the WIT's you'll see them on

0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 3>like an anchorage. You'll be on the side of the

0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.680
<v Speaker 3>road with a butter knife, big chunk of weal fat

0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:06.640
<v Speaker 3>and some ritz crackers.

0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, and they love it.

0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.640
<v Speaker 3>So I've made friends with a couple of Inuits and

0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.280
<v Speaker 3>as going home gift, they gave me a big old

0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.440
<v Speaker 3>chunk of weal fat. I keep it in my freezer

0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.200
<v Speaker 3>just to torture people when they come by the house.

0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.639
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm gonna have some well fat and some grease.

0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.880
<v Speaker 4>You take it that home with you you can have.

0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.080
<v Speaker 2>When I So, I have had muktuk one time, and

0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.359
<v Speaker 2>it was beautiful. It was it was this cream white

0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.520
<v Speaker 2>with this black like a wet suit on the top

0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of yep like and it was this the skin I assumed,

0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 2>am I right? And it was cut real thin, and

0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.560
<v Speaker 2>it was like the coloration was beautiful and the consistency

0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:47.400
<v Speaker 2>was like rubber.

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.680
<v Speaker 1>And I ate it.

0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:55.119
<v Speaker 2>And I've never I've never had a food that like

0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.560
<v Speaker 2>lit up my world with exactly what.

0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would taste. Like it was going to

0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:01.960
<v Speaker 1>be fishy.

0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean it tasted like the ocean, like it wasn't

0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.159
<v Speaker 2>fishy like a fish. It's like that tastes like a fish.

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Muck tuck tastes like the ocean. Like my world just

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 2>lit up and I saw like it was almost like

0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:15.960
<v Speaker 2>an out of body experience.

0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of.

0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Exaggerating, but it tastes more like the like when you

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.040
<v Speaker 2>eat a deer, Like it doesn't taste like the wood

0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:36.680
<v Speaker 2>like you don't. Yeah, anyway, that's purf. So, Hayden, you're

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:37.240
<v Speaker 2>a musician.

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Speaker 4>I play music, Yes, play country music.

0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:41.120
<v Speaker 1>How long you've been playing music?

0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh? There's a picture of me with a guitar when

0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 4>I was like four.

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Did your parents were they musicians?

0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.600
<v Speaker 4>My dad plays a guitar. Mom and dad both sing

0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:50.360
<v Speaker 4>in church a lot.

0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.440
<v Speaker 2>So, okay, did you you grew up on a cattle farm?

0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That right? Hey?

0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 4>My dad looks practically identical to Randy Owens of Alabama.

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh he did when he had hair, he did.

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 3>He suffers from So you came from a family of musicians?

0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, and you're you're twenty four years old?

0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Sam, but my uncle's on my dad's side. It

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:25.960
<v Speaker 4>would be my granny's brothers. They played in Patsy Klein's band.

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Who again, though my it would be my great uncles.

0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.720
<v Speaker 4>So it's on my dad's side. It's my dad's mom's brothers.

0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there's some family heritage inside of music.

0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Granny like my family.

0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Hayden.

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, I'm glad you brought it up. But

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I come from a long line of talented musicians. I'm

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 2>just one in the line. We'll talk about you though,

0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 2>go ahead, go ahead, no sou but you play like

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 2>classic country music.

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 1>You sound like George Strake country music. Is that George Straight?

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Uh? Like if George Straight and Ronnie Dunn had

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.639
<v Speaker 4>a child, I feel like that would be me.

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong in saying that?

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Did I? It's possible to have the wrong country music.

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:15.160
<v Speaker 5>I've heard.

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>He's a little more twangy.

0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm twiny. I'm pretty Twiny's who am I thinking of them?

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.439
<v Speaker 4>I feel like Ronnie Dunk Maybe Ronnie Dunt I've been

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 4>told of I sound kind of like Ronnie Dunn, just

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:26.359
<v Speaker 4>not as good.

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Here we will, We're we're gonna get you to play

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.120
<v Speaker 2>something later. But okay, tell me about so you at

0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.639
<v Speaker 2>one time when you were in Nashville for a while, like,

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.919
<v Speaker 2>what what's where are you at? And you with your music.

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I've been quit for the last year just because I

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.280
<v Speaker 4>was in Nashville. I didn't live in Nashville, but I

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.040
<v Speaker 4>went there a lot, and uh, I went to a

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.959
<v Speaker 4>lot of award shows and stuff, got nominated for a few things,

0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 4>and uh, just was in the life that I wanted,

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 4>you know. I hear the big city and drugs and

0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 4>alcohol all around. I just didn't want that. So yeah,

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 4>came back home, started writing a lot more and made

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of good friends in music. Merle Haggard's lead

0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 4>guitar player, Joe Hampton, we're really good friends. Keith Whitley's

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 4>son Jesse, we're pretty good buddies. And uh, I've met

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:23.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of big times.

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 1>So are you Are you still pursuing? Like I don't

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.679
<v Speaker 1>If you're not, I would love it if you just

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 1>said yeah.

0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I actually have a lot of respect for people that

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 2>try to go down a road that's really hard and

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 2>then just admit that. It's like, hey, this isn't the

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>pathway for me.

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Speaker 1>That's I mean.

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 4>The thing is I was doing it and everybody was

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 4>kind of on me, like you've got to do it,

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:44.920
<v Speaker 4>You've got to do it, You've got to do it.

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 4>And one day I was like, I don't want to

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.120
<v Speaker 4>do it. I don't think I don't think I want this,

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we were playing every

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 4>weekend and stuff, and it was just it was getting hard,

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 4>it was becoming a job. It wasn't fun anymore, you know,

0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:03.400
<v Speaker 4>So I pretty will quit. But then this is no kidd.

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Two weeks ago, I've been praying about the last two months.

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm a religious person. I've been praying about the last

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.879
<v Speaker 4>two months. I finally quit the way I pray and

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.199
<v Speaker 4>I say, Lord, let your will be done in my

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 4>life instead of Lord, give me music. I want it

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 4>so bad and I've I've changed it. And then all

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, you know, Clay Nukeomb invites me to

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.400
<v Speaker 4>come play some music on the podcast. So, I mean,

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 4>we might be getting fired back up. This might be

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.159
<v Speaker 4>the the top of it here, I hear it.

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But you're you're writing, you're writing some yeap.

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 2>So you you uh so you still you still playing some?

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I play. I enjoyed. I enjoyed writing more than

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I do. I'm a lyricist, like if a song don't

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 4>make sense to me, I don't really like it. I like,

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I like wordy stuff. I like Willie and Nelson. He

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:57.880
<v Speaker 4>had a lot of word wordy stuff, but he can't

0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 4>hardly sing very good.

0:22:59.040 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So but.

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 4>He had wordy stuff and I liked it. But Dean Dillon,

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 4>one of the best writers ever, wrote for George st

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 4>you bet, and uh he's a wordy and melody type

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 4>person that, I mean, heck of a writer.

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>So what does what does somebody do when they try

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 2>to get into the music industry?

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Like what what was your what was your pathway?

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 4>I fell into it. I want a State Beta Convention.

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 4>I went up there and sang a George Strait song

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 4>and I want I was right, yeah, And I went

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 4>to Nationals and uh, we placed like tenth I think

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 4>maybe in that. And then here it came. Everybody started calling,

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 4>and we created a band and hammered down and I

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 4>went to Nashville playing all those award shows and de outed.

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really like it. I liked riding my mule,

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 4>being away from people.

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Do well.

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, today more than ever probably is a space

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>for like, for people that don't have to me can

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 2>produce music wherever you live. Yeah, you can distribute music

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>wherever you live. You know, there's so many you know,

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>channels these days to for distribution of music. It feels

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like with some of these guys, they haven't gone the

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:24.640
<v Speaker 2>traditional route, yeah through Nashville, or paid your dues.

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 4>A lot of them, I mean don't even They haven't

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 4>even played in the bar and got beer bottlestone at them.

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think it would surprise people how little

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 3>money these musicians are chasing, you know, whenever it's costing

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 3>them money.

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, to play.

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 3>And some good friends of mine, you know, they'll go

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 3>all the way down from here to Florida to play

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 3>for three hundred bucks and.

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 4>They were getting paid.

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>They got paid. Wow, they got paid.

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 3>But you know, you do it because you're paying your dues, right,

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>and you pay your dues till you get to the

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 3>point where someone gives you a contract. You hope that

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 3>that contract is legit. You're not gonna you're not gonna

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 3>get rolled over on that deal.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 4>I had a contract offered to me, and I rolled

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 4>it around and got to looking at the fine print

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 4>on it, and uh, they want me to wear skinny

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 4>jeans and stuff and loses the cowboy hat, and uh,

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 4>ain't about that. I think you could get real pretty

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 4>if you I think I could.

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you go that barber I went to the

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>other day get my hair cut.

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, call her by a right name, and who knows

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 5>what you might come out there.

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I just called her, mam, missy.

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I just cook on its mam.

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Saying hey, old Joe told me to see an old

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 4>gallon here that we could have cut my hair.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this, y'all.

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm thirsty and I want to drink that water, but

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid that coon grease is like rainex all through

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 3>my mouth or something.

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna beat us. It's still, it's with me.

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 6>Does he not leave it any times?

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It's here with me? Is good?

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Tell me about your mules, Hayden. How many mules you

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 2>got does your family have?

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 4>I own two, two meals, two horses. Dad has two mules.

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 4>He had three. He had a team. One of them

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.120
<v Speaker 4>just died. She was thirty three, thirty four.

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, a team. So they pulled a wagon.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he was. He's all about the wagon stuff.

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 4>He's been wanting me to break one of my mules

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 4>to pull with his other mule.

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Does he ever go to the wagon races up here?

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 4>No, he's pretty laid back. He don't like going fast.

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>So imagine that somebody with a wagon. Yeah, not wanting

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to go fast.

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Weird.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>So uh so you did your family grow up with mules?

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Did you have mules when you grew up?

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Or horses?

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 4>I listen to this, my dad just like any five

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 4>year old, I want a horse, you know. So he

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 4>yet he goes and gets me a horse. He paid

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 4>one hundred dollars for this horse, and he got a

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 4>sack of feed with it. So he comes back and

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 4>it's this paint horse that is a bag of bones,

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 4>and he's a stud and he's never been rode. So

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 4>he said, here you go, here's your horse. So that's

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 4>when I started riding. But he was so poor. You

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 4>could get on him and he couldn't buck. That's how

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 4>poor he was.

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.479
<v Speaker 1>He was. He you were five, inflexible.

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 4>You bet I bounced, but he threw me up there,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 4>and I rode that horse. I gave him to a kid.

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 4>That horse ended up being a heck of a horse

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 4>because I rode it every day. And my dad ended

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 4>up getting it cut because he was pretty steady. But

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 4>I rode it every day, every religiously, every day. And

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 4>I ended up getting mules and other horses and stuff.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 4>And he was getting up in his teens. And a

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 4>boy was splitting wood for my dad. He is probably ten,

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 4>and he was wanting a horse bad. And he was

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 4>out there petting that horse one day and I went

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 4>and talked to his dad. I said, you mind if

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I give him that horse, and h He's like, as.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Long as it comes with a bag of field.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>So ended up I went over that boy was petting

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 4>on it. I walked up to him in the field

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.239
<v Speaker 4>and I said, if you want that horse and go

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 4>ask your dad, y'all can have it. And he still

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 4>got it now. And that was four or five years ago, probably. Okay,

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 4>he's a he's a good one.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>His nails, doc, what kind of what kind of described

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to me?

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Your mules?

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, they got long ears and heads. I've got Kate.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 4>She is twenty three, wow, twenty two, she's twenty two.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 4>She's fourteen hands, pretty small and uh.

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Twenty two years old.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 4>She goes where you poled her. That's right, She'll she'll

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 4>go anywhere you point her. And you can shoot off

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 4>of her. You can shoot a gun off of her,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 4>you can shoot your bowl off of her, you can

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.959
<v Speaker 4>stand up on her and do whatever you want. I

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 4>packed out two pigs on her.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 4>We were hog hunting down in Arkadelphia with my buddy Aaron,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 4>and Uh they had a boy was dragging one that

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 4>was alive behind his horse and my mules. I guess

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 4>she had never seen one. She went up there and

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 4>sniffed of it, and then she went to pauling the

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 4>heck out of that booger. Yeah, And everybody was making

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 4>fun of me because I showed up with him loaded

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 4>in the back of my truck and got out. And

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 4>everybody's making fun of me, calling me dumb and stuff

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 4>because I ride a mule.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, where do these guys live?

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 6>Now?

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna go find them.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>They Let's pause your story just for a second. Remember

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>where you're at where the hog story? And I remember

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>robbing Kate. I was reading a book yesterday. I woke

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>up real early yesterday for no good reason, before four

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>am and just couldn't go to sleep, And so I

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>woke up and I started reading this book I'm reading.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I won't tell you what it is. But the guy

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>in this this is a true story. This guy he

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>was a drug dealer, okay, true story, and he was

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>using an Apple Loosa horse ranch as the front as

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>the front of his of his marijuana growing operation. And

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>right there in the pages of that book he said

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that he was going to buy a horse. And he

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>said it it said it was so ugly it looked

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>like a mule.

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I gasped in the like I was trying

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to be quiet close to the Oh my what just I.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Literally gasped and underlined it a big question mark, and

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, what. But the book was written back in

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like the nineteen ninety Well is that it actually was

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>written in the early two thousand. But he had only

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>been a horse breeder from back in the eighties, so

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he hadn't been updated. That mules are now

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>like really cool.

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh they're top of the line. The cowboy Cadillac, yeah,

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>is what I call them.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 5>So when did mules jump to the top of the line.

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And Hayden start.

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 6>I just want to make sure. I just want to

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 6>make sure for all the listeners and everyone understands. When

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 6>that is worth more than horses, you might very well

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 6>be in the midst of a revolution.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 4>That's right, I'm saying it right now. It is. Everybody's

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 4>going to be riding mules in the next It's cool

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 4>to go backwards now, that's what I'm trying to do.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Is that all part of this green initiative?

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Like Echo, If we're not going to have that battery

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 3>powered brig, we just got to go straight.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.959
<v Speaker 1>You gotta have a mule. Okay, back to your story.

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So you're you're you're hauling these guys make fun of

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 2>We're going to me and you're going to go.

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not a violent person. I've actually never been

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>in a you'll.

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 5>Use your words, You'll come with them with your words.

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:02.959
<v Speaker 1>Well, or we might just fistfight them.

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean the one he's uh, he's like six, so

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 4>much to clear and he was he was he's been overseas. Okay,

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 4>we'll try to steer clear of him. And uh, but

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>he made fun of your mule, so okay, he's kind

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 4>of odd to me and him he wasn't actually making

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 4>fun of me. The other guys were.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Nathan will give him a pass.

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 4>No, No, Nathan's the bad one. Aaron was a good one.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, but got it, got it?

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they they made fun of me. And as soon

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 4>as O Kate went to whacking on that hog, I

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 4>think one of them asked how much would you take

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 4>for her?

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Really changed their mind right there, changed their being burrito. Yeah,

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 4>so Kate is your twenty two year old mule?

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>You got another one?

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 4>She's a baby? Uh Crash?

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's not a good name for a deal.

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Well he was named before me. So what do you do? Okay,

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 4>you can't change him? Okay, you know that, right, Yeah.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I pretty much knew that.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It's bad luck. It's like a boat, right, you can't

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>rename a boat either.

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't know.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Hey, when you get done, I've got I've got a

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>little update on my mule.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>But so you you name Crash.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah I do. He Uh he's like thirteen two hands, Okay,

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 4>so that's small. He's getting pretty small.

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>A hand a hand is four inches.

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 4>A hand is a finger, A finger, a finger a hand.

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 4>That's how I've always met because everybody always says he's he.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Just started fingers like one, two, three.

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Four, four, says hand a hand.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Everybody always says this horse is fourteen point five hands

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 4>there's no such thing as a point five. Okay, there's

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 4>only a one, two and a three and then it's

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 4>a hand. So you got fourteen one one, fourteen two,

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 4>fourteen three, fifteen.

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Got it?

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that drives me crazy, but it does so fourteen

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and Uh if somebody said fourteen and a half, they

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 2>would be saying fourteen two.

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess yes, I've been guilty of that.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been guilty that before.

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 4>I was actually bringing up because of you.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You wanted to contract. I get it, I get it,

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 4>No crash, he's uh, he's thirteen, and he's a he's

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 4>a pack meal. You a right, I mean you can.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 4>He's just plow rainer. Really he's not. He's kind of

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 4>weird about people being behind him too. Your meals are

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 4>a little odd, peculiar, but uh.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 2>The good ones, you got to break that peculiar out

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 2>of them.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 4>See Grady Hawthorne told me, and he lives over by

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 4>David Albright. Okay, they're next door neighbors. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Grady told me. There's good mules and there's bad mules.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 4>It's no in between. I mean that's he said, that's it,

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 4>and he's broken he's eighty two, I think, and he's

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 4>broken his whole life. And uh, he said there's nothing

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 4>better than a good mule. And he said there's nothing

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 4>worse than a bad mule. Yeah, and that's the truth.

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 4>But Crash, he's Crash is he's in the middle. He's

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 4>not bad or good.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't even exist.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 4>So I know that's what I'm I'm I'm I'm in

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 4>a dilemma.

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 5>Right, existential crisis.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it will probably is worth even more

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 3>money's so rare.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think I think the one in the

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>middle is on its way down to a crash.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's on its way down to a wreck.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 4>That's right. That's why. Maybe that's why his name is Crash.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, so so I so here's my mule

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 2>update is that I got a new mule.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll show him to you, the little one out.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the one in the corral out there, eight months old, okay,

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and uh it's it's a pretty black mule with four

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 2>white sox feet.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good looking.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were gonna we thought we had many names.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I got the mule from and the guy didn't name it.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>He was just like the mules kind of had my

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>name on it for a while, and so he the

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 2>he weaned this mule and got it wins eight months old,

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 2>and uh, I was good. I thought about naming it Jet.

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>We thought about naming it another name that was of

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a family member that we can't uh. We we decided

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>not to name it after the family member. But I

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>was the mule's name is slow Trap?

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Smooth like you talking about a mule?

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I know, I oh, the name doesn't like

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>roll off the tongue, But I told it came to

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>me again on the early morning reading session and I

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>just woke up and I just like declared it and

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>there was no question. There was no debate before the

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>mule's name. I was asking the family, like, what do

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:19.959
<v Speaker 2>you think you think we should call it Jet? Should

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>we call it this or that? And I just like

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>woke up and I was like, the mule's name is slow.

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 5>Trap, and where'd you get slow trapped?

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Slow Trap was a good friend of Frederick Gershtocker. I

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>reread my Gershtocker book, this book Wild Sports, which is

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.280
<v Speaker 2>probably one of my favorite books in the world. That book,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 2>it's about Arkansas and or a lot of the adventures

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>in this true story take place in Arkansas and one

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 2>of Gershtalker's dear friends, and I had forgotten about him

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>because he's not a central character. But his name was

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Slow Trap and he was from the Fouche La Fay area.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>The La Fay River is south.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Of the arc Saw River runs into the Arkansas in

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 2>the Washtalls and Slow Trap was like an eccentric but

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 2>very skilled woodsman. And uh, anyway, there's some Gershtalker talks

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>about a lot of really unique stuff about Slow Trap,

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>which we won't get into. But when I read it,

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that mule's name is slow Trap.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, but for sure, you just call him slower Trap.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to say slow Trap.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing. I hadn't even thought about it.

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>We called him the Trap.

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 4>That's like my dad's mule. She's about she's a black

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 4>meal that's got white stockings, and her name is fancy

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 4>and he was trying to change it to something else.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, you can't do that. Her name's already fancy.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 4>You can't do She's thirteen years old. What if you

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 4>what would you do if your name has changed?

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Whenever the fancy old gal, Well.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 4>He started calling her.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 5>There you go.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 4>He started calling her fan fan or Fanny.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 2>So okay, I mean that's that's fair game.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 4>I call her fancy.

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh, do you do you ever show your do your

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>do you shoe your mules? Not personally, but do your

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>are your mules?

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Shot? Yeah?

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 4>One of them is?

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, one of them, Kate, just one.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>You're using a lot.

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 4>She's got bad feet.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:13.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh really some of the guy that had her before me. Uh,

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of let her feet go and we're working on

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 4>getting her built back up.

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, Okay, do you ever shoe your mules?

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Me? Personally?

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't do any fair work.

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 4>I would say the name of the guy who does it,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 4>but he said he doesn't want any more work. So,

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 4>but he's an exceptional he does a great job on him.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, let him know if he needs any tips for me.

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>You can give him my phone number.

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Hey, they make those velcrow boots slip over him. Now,

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 4>I've heard those are pretty cool.

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, Joe, there's there's many things in this world that

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a man shouldn't bring up publicly or post pictures of

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>what he does.

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I've probably done them all. Well. The list is long.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Different on the short list on the short list is

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>doing anything with the foot of an equine, like putting

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 2>shoes on it. People, they come out of the woodwork.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>The second one is anything that has to do with bees.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the b people come apery, apery people.

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 6>Well yeah, beekeepers. Beekeepers very passionate and dogmatic, I.

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Think, and unable, like incapable of just seeing somebody do

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 2>something a certain way and not telling you or whoever

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 2>else how it absolutely should be done.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 6>The one capable of every bee keeper, whether it's the

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 6>same as the bee keeper to the next of them,

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 6>is absolutely rigid and absolute.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like cooking brisket.

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, so we didn't know that.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, well do you post?

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but when you post a brisket, like a

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>picture of a brisket, and people don't criticize you, do

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 2>they my briskets?

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of a master of the filters on that iPhone.

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh I could do some shading, okay, kind of crop

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, do some work. I mean, I can

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 3>make a four pound bass look like it's as big

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 3>as a tree. I've got some skills in it. But

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 3>brisket cooking is the same deal, because you gotta have

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 3>that color of the bark right then it goes all

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the way back to the trim.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you should have trimmed it a little bit.

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, barbecue guys are the same deal. They're a lot

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 3>like a beekeeper. And they never even knew it. They

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't know, they didn't know.

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 6>I had no idea. It was the most overwhelming thing

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 6>in the world to me. I was so excited that,

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, keep my first beast, and we Clay. I

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 6>didn't put a picture, Clay put a picture up. And

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean people came out of the woodwork otherwise kind

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 6>people came out of the woodwork to offer all sorts

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 6>of advice. And every time someone heard I was keeping bees,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 6>they said, well, you know this, you know that, you

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 6>know you're supposed to do this rules.

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 5>It was overwhelming.

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you better at it now or you.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, no one's rules are the same.

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right, And we still got bees and we got

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>honey set way to do something.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 6>I'm a minimalist and everything it turns out like that's

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 6>important and and it I think I am. Actually I

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 6>don't think I could market myself as a minimalist in

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 6>the way that people do, but at my very core

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 6>I think I'm more minimalistic than anyone I know.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't. I genuinely don't like that.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you this, missy, when you cook that brisket,

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 3>send the picture to me first.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll filter and crop it.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 5>We'll put it out there and see what happens.

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 3>We'll make it okay, all right, the critiques will be

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 3>way down lowed.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I got a question for the singer over here. Yep,

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>he's he's looking over his shoulder. You wake up to

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:08.720
<v Speaker 3>a song, like do you do you dream about a song?

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever woke up and written down?

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Absolutely what you were dreaming about? There was music, and.

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 4>There's a I recorded a song that I that I

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 4>had a dream about and woke up in the middle

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 4>of night ten minutes wrote it. There it is. It's

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 4>called Real Grand. Really, it's on all the stuff.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people who will sit.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 3>For hours and hours and try to do that drive

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.760
<v Speaker 3>in a song, you know, try to build a song.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 3>And then there's guys that just there's songs.

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 4>I think God gives you, gives you your songs, the

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 4>good heartfelt songs minus Real Grand because Real Grand's about

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 4>killing people. Because it was a Western it's a Western

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 4>themed and ends up this guy's wife who the man

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 4>and got shot. She ends up killing the guy who

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 4>shot her husband started.

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, BG appropriate, But.

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean we're talking about cong grease, so everything's appropriate.

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Now it's a fair game.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 4>After that, Yeah, I have a lot. Yeah. I wrote

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 4>one the day after Christmas, coming from an old cabin.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 4>I seen you a picture of it coming from an

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 4>old cabin. The story to that? Can I tell that

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 4>right now?

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 4>The story to this cabin. It's on National Forest.

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>So he sent me a picture of an old log cabin.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it was built in like nineteen eighteen, all right,

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:47.919
<v Speaker 4>so that's over one hundred years ago. I was riding

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 4>mules and I found it. I was like, what the

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 4>heck is that? I've just seen the roof of it?

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Found it, walked up there and I was like, I

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know what this is. But automatically I start thinking moonshine.

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's on for service right Arkansas Mountains. It's moonshine.

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Gotta be, can't not be. So I go to thinking

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 4>about moonshine. And this was a long This was last

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 4>winter that I found it, and I've been thinking about it.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Ever since. And Dalton Hill, a buddy of mine in Glenwood,

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 4>he told me because I told him about it. I

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 4>was like, have you ever seen that? Because he lives

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 4>over there pretty close. I was like, if you've seen

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 4>this cabin? He said, uh, yeah, it's got a crazy

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 4>story behind it. I was like, what is it?

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>He said it with someone there named Rio Grant.

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:37.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and his wife.

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 9>No.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 4>He said that a man come out there with his

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 4>daughter and was building that cabin. And this ain't no light.

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 4>It's bigger than this place we're sitting in right now.

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 4>And you know, ten by ten, it's like a twenty

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 4>five by twenty. It's a big cabin and a man

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 4>and his daughter out there and he was building that

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 4>cabin for them to live. And this is from Glenwood.

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 4>Being nineteen eighteen, it would take an hour and a

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 4>half to get to Glenwood by wagon or mule or whatever.

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 4>So Penn Zeus was driving the Yeah, if it was

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 4>my dad, it would take like three hours. If as

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 4>a chuck wagon guy, it'd be like fifteen minutes. But

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 4>there go, his daughter was playing around and she ended

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 4>up getting rattlesnake bit, so he picks her up and

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 4>takes her to the nearest doctor wherever that may be

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:41.320
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen eighteen and never show back up. So the government,

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 4>I guess, took the land and they haven't done anything

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 4>with the cabin. It's just but if you get on

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 4>on X you can see like an eighty that is

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 4>thinner than the rest of the forest. It's pretty sweet.

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 4>But I got to think about moonshine and I have

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 4>been thinking about rattles. Yeah, And I was over there

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 4>this last the day after Christmas, and I was like, man,

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 4>and I started writing a song and by the time

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 4>I was home, which took fifteen minutes, the song was written.

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh really, Yeah, I think like you know they got

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 3>you got that audio book coming out yes this week?

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that's right.

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I haven't heard about that, and uh.

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And so but for a guy to write, for a

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>guy to write.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 3>A story like they've written, yeah, it's it's the same thing.

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you probably woke up to paragraphs that you

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 3>needed to add, right.

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 2>It's I not on that deal particularly, but yes, one

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. Just when you're writing in general, yeah, you

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of have moments of clarity that you try to

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>capture because they escape quickly.

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>They can.

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 3>So when you guys, both of you, when you thoroughly

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 3>wake up, like you woke up at one o'clock in

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the morning and wrote this song down and then you

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 3>wake up at six, Yeah, is it just a mess

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 3>or is it really really there?

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.959
<v Speaker 4>I've thrown a lot of stuff over my shoulder, really yeah.

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Just I think storytelling and songwriting kind of yeah, parallel

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>each other in a lot of ways, because a good

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 3>song is a story.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 4>It's just a story.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I've learned that you have to capture stuff quickly. Sometimes

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I write notes on my phone, like when I'm talking

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 2>to Misty about stuff and I have to tell her, hey,

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not texting, I'm writing stuff because to me, it's

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the junctures of connection between two things. Because inside the

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of writing that I'm doing for different things, you

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 2>have actual data that you're not creating. Like if you're

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 2>talking about history, you've got some data, yeah, but then

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you have this other piece of data that might be

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes the uniqueness comes in how two things are connected,

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 2>or how you would bridge from this thing to this thing,

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>or it might be the events in someone's life. You

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>tell a story and get from here to hear my

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>most of my creative moments that I have to capture

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>come in.

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's the connection.

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And then but but and you kind of think that

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be able to remember it and you're not.

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 2>And so maybe it's maybe it's my age, but.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 5>No, I think I think what you're.

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I have to do the same thing. And I'm how

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 4>many years young?

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I would think that the listeners of bear grease because

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 3>they're all fans of how you're telling the story. Yeah,

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that the listeners because the way that you

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 3>put words together are different than anybody else in podcasting

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 3>as far as I know.

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 4>That's the difference between me and him, is like he's

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 4>good at telling stories and sounding good and using big words.

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty good at putting it in a song because

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 4>I can't talk very good. So it's like he's good

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 4>at storytelling. I'm good songwriting, which is a story.

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 2>But it's hey, I've bought what you're tracking on there

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.240
<v Speaker 2>about songwriting and writing and be the same. I told

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:11.240
<v Speaker 2>I've said this to Missy before. If I could sing

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>probably probably as good as Hayden. If I could sing

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 2>as good as good as Hayden, there wouldn't be a

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Bargerags podcast. I would be a musician, can see no

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 2>because because the desire to storytell in music is kind

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 2>of the it's kind of there's a link there.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I might play the moonshine and song. It's called Montgomery,

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 4>It's called Montgomery County Shine No way, you bet I

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 4>live in Montgomery County. By the way, I want to hear.

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm in on listening to it. Well, it's

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>let's hear it. Now's the time, now's the time. Yeah, yeah,

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll brag on clay while you're getting that get fiddle out.

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll tell you what we we we're gonna have.

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 5>To second, we're gonna have to take.

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 2>A full, full time out though. So this you just

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 2>wrote this, This the first time you've sang it.

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 4>I've sung it just to myself, to your and my

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 4>wife in your head. Well, I had to come kid

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 4>with in my head. Yes.

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Also, I can't wait on the home authentic.

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 4>On the way home, it was nothing but in my head. Yeah,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a guitar. I was driving that old

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Dodge pickup.

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Coming home from this this old cabin.

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, are you ready for it?

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's hear it first time ever been ever

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>been played publicly.

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 10>There's an old band in cabin on the section line.

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 10>They used to run it out New Moonshine until he

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 10>shot him down, shot him from behind, old fool, that

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:54.800
<v Speaker 10>Montgomery County shine like it. We can't grow crops on

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 10>the ridge lines, hendryin over, you can't make it.

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 4>Don it's alllady knew Pappy.

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:09.720
<v Speaker 10>Passed it down the line, all fool, that Montgomery County shine.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:23.319
<v Speaker 10>He they're gonna find you good, not today, by my

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.280
<v Speaker 10>all fool, that Montgomery County Shine.

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I like it.

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 10>Willer of a little man went searching high, but Grandpappy

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 10>left like a fox's sly hand. Ten year old me,

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 10>I wouldn't catch a NiFe running that Montgomery County shine.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 10>Found us one d I held my hands up high.

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 10>I washed it all go down. I watched my pappy die,

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 10>And twenty years later, I'm on the outside, I'm still

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:17.240
<v Speaker 10>running that old Montgomery County shine.

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 9>Oo Hey, hey, they're gonna catch you, but not d o.

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 10>My all fool that but Montgomery County Shine. I was

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 10>running that Montgomery County Shine. I'm running that Montgomery County Shine.

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead. Ride.

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 3>That's probably the best uh real close, but probably the

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.240
<v Speaker 3>best song ever sang on The Render.

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, no doubt, I love it, man.

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I can guarantee it's the best song on the twenty

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty four models so far.

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That's great, Many, it really was.

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 4>See my voice has changed quite a lot that my

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 4>style in the last two years.

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Really riding mules will do that to him?

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Man, it does, Yeah, but it does.

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Here stud man, that's great. That was great. That was great.

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't you think Bears should pick up a guitar and

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 2>learn to play like you should?

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 1>This one?

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 5>I think he looks like a real natural with it.

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I caught him the other day strumming on a guitar.

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Timm, girl's played that one?

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh nice?

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:39.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>No, that okay.

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Now I gotta bring this up because this so we're

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 2>typically on the Render, we're talking about the episode that

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 2>just came out, and here we are an hour in end.

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 2>We haven't even talked about it. Montgomery kind of shine though.

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Lou Dell and Charlie Edwards one of our one of

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:01.320
<v Speaker 2>our most listened to series, Genuine Outlaws series Louisdale in

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen nineties, I think ninety two or ninety one

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 2>got arrested for making moonshine.

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 4>It happens in the.

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah you have that on the Big Jobs. He

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 2>got arrested for making moonshine right on the border of Montgomery.

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 4>County, like the polk side of it.

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like for real, like those watch yeah anyway,

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Montgomery County Shine and then think about Loudlle and Charlie EVAs.

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 2>But like my okay, I gotta say it though, because

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 2>we've been talking about moonshine.

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 1>My buddy T. L.

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Jones, East Tennessee, who was Barry Tarlton's grandson. If you

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>remember we did the thing about the plot hunt, the

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 2>plot Hound sheriff in East Tennessee.

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 1>T L. Jones, he kind of frowns on me against it.

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, he just says, we treat moonshine way too lax,

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, like back in back in the days, like

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 2>these were things that wrecked communities, just.

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Like the song County Shine.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he got killed.

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so TL, you were right, he got shut in

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the back. Oh wow. Yeah the first line right there.

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:10.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, that was a good it's a good story.

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 4>I like it, appreciate it.

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Cool man.

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:19.800
<v Speaker 2>So the last Bear Grease will be the last time

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>in the foreseeable future that we do a classic. Okay, yeah, man,

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited. Well, we could have spent this whole

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 2>time talking about the Daniel Boone series. That I said

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>it in the intro to the rerun of this classic

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 2>that when I made that first Daniel Boone episode, I

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.440
<v Speaker 2>did not think people would like it, Joe. It was

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 2>too it was too compared to what I had done,

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:48.359
<v Speaker 2>and it was early. It was like episode maybe it

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 2>was episode fourteen or something.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 3>It was a lot of history, yeah, but told in

0:56:55.320 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 3>a way that common folks like myself could sit there

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 3>and and man, you're doing play by play on these

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 3>things like you're having Since it's just your voice, you're

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 3>having to build the picture of what I'm listening to,

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 3>and and you sell it well in that.

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 4>It takes a lot of talent to build up a

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 4>story like that, I mean, because it's hard to do

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 4>tell a story to where you're like, what's what's going on?

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 2>When I kind of just giving a little peek behind

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the curtain, made the decision I was going to do

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a podcast on Daniel Boone, and so I start, you know,

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 2>reading everything about Boone, I go. I didn't even know

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Robert Morgan was alive, to be honest to it did

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Robert Morgan wrote me and Steve Vanella's favorite rendition of

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a Boone biography called Boone by Robert Morgan. I didn't

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 2>even know if Robert Morgan was alive. And I get

0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>on get on the website or get on the internet,

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and I find him and he lives in New York

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and he's a he's a former corn nail professor. And

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I contact him via email and he's just like come

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to my house. And and at that time too, in

0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the bear Grease world, I had never really traveled a

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 2>whole lot and for just a one shot deal. And

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember calling my overseer at Meat Eater at that

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>time and was like, Hey, dude, is it okay if

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I go to New York for like a two hour

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:30.320
<v Speaker 2>interview and then just like come home.

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>It's cheaper than a moose tag?

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh and and and my overseer wasn't Steve Vanella,

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it was it was somebody else, good, great person, and

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they were like, go for it, man, heck yeah. And

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>so I just think it like now I do that

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 2>all the time. I've done that now for three years,

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Like we worked pretty hard to get interviews with people,

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>but at that time it was like we were all

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 2>like testing the boundaries, because always inside of anything, it's

0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 2>like how much energy and effort do you have to

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 2>put towards something and is it going to be well received?

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 2>And so I interviewed Boone and then I interviewed Steve Ranella,

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and I put these two guys together, and it was

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:17.280
<v Speaker 2>so much detail, and I got done with an hour

0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:21.680
<v Speaker 2>long podcast and I'd done like hardly any of Boone's life, right,

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, shoot, I'm gon have to make

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 2>this two episodes? Yeah, And then I do two and

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like, heck, can I have to make it three?

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 2>And I remember thinking are people going to be bored

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 2>with this?

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Are people gonna.

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 2>And and it ends up. I mean the short version

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.960
<v Speaker 2>is is that ended up being best well and a

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:40.919
<v Speaker 2>template for the future of what Bear Grease would would

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 2>would be would be kind of a history podcast in

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 2>some ways, not always, but.

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I recall the anxiety of just waiting, like for part two, right,

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, really, I think most of the listeners and

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I speak to everybody as a listener of the show,

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.919
<v Speaker 3>I think we just looked forward to to build up.

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:04.120
<v Speaker 3>There's not like a real big teaser at the end,

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 3>like in a corny movie or something, but there's enough

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:10.800
<v Speaker 3>of a teaser to say and on next week's show,

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna go through this, and so it keeps it

1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 3>keeps the listeners going.

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>You've had a lot of series like that.

1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I we learned that we can do

1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.120
<v Speaker 2>series and you have to. I mean, you just can't

1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 2>accomplish a big section of history in a fifty minute

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:34.520
<v Speaker 2>podcast or an hour long podcast. But boone was it.

1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 1>That was neat. It was good.

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:40.840
<v Speaker 2>But to give a teaser, what's coming Poachers? I like

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the Poacher stories.

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.080
<v Speaker 5>It is it's interesting.

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I like the Poacher stories, every one of them, from

1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:49.440
<v Speaker 3>the game ording side to the outlaw side.

1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm not gonna give it away, but we have

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 2>yet to hear this story from this angle before untold story.

1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm told.

1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:04.480
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's really unique.

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you better, you better not talk.

1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:11.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Clay is the worst about giving away you think so,

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:15.200
<v Speaker 6>uh Like, I don't think he can surprise me.

1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't know that he actually just wait, miss one

1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:20.920
<v Speaker 5>time he has one time he has.

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:22.560
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna surprise you when he puts a big old

1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 3>kiss on you with some.

1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Speaker 5>Congres dB it's not interested.

1:01:31.400 --> 1:01:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Huh. And the book the audiobook.

1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, So if you're listening to this podcast that

1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that comes out, I believe the date is January the fourth,

1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Happy twenty twenty four.

1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Yep, and uh.

1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 2>The audiobook will be released on January the ninth. And uh,

1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:53.440
<v Speaker 2>The Long Hunters media to American history, The Long Hunters,

1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's uh. I think it's about six hours long,

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and it'll be it's it's uh. I'm really excited about it.

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:07.360
<v Speaker 2>You'll know more about the Long Hunters than anybody on

1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:09.520
<v Speaker 2>planet Earth other than the people that listened to it

1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:10.160
<v Speaker 2>before you.

1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:14.919
<v Speaker 1>So, and Long Hunters was just the distance and the time.

1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was it was a It was a name

1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:20.840
<v Speaker 2>that was given to a style of market hunting. And

1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and the reason the only rea we don't even really

1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:25.080
<v Speaker 2>know where it came from. We just know when it

1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:26.400
<v Speaker 2>showed up in the literature.

1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Some guy probably woke up in the middle of the

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:31.360
<v Speaker 3>night like he was going to name a mule.

1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it said Long No, it's it's assumed from the

1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:38.440
<v Speaker 2>context of where it was written.

1:02:38.480 --> 1:02:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't like a poet that wrote it.

1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:43.640
<v Speaker 2>It was it was somebody say it was a It

1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:48.600
<v Speaker 2>was a historical person during that time that referred to

1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:50.080
<v Speaker 2>the long hunters.

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And the long hunters were packs. It wasn't like an individual.

1:02:54.920 --> 1:02:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, or a long hunter could be an individual. But

1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:59.960
<v Speaker 2>it had to do with they went on big extent,

1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.880
<v Speaker 2>did market hunting trips the campaign, Yeah, they would like

1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:09.600
<v Speaker 2>in Boone's historic two year trip into Kentucky was kind

1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:14.600
<v Speaker 2>of the iconic definer of the of the long hunters

1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:18.400
<v Speaker 2>because it was a long hunt, right, But it's all

1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:22.000
<v Speaker 2>about the deer skin trade. So the market hunters were

1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:26.280
<v Speaker 2>heavily involved in the deer skin trade. They weren't trophy hunters.

1:03:26.320 --> 1:03:29.160
<v Speaker 2>They weren't hunting because they thought it was fun. These

1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:32.400
<v Speaker 2>guys were destitute and we're trying to find a way

1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:34.640
<v Speaker 2>to make a living. And you could go into the

1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:38.600
<v Speaker 2>you could go you could trespass into areas you shouldn't

1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:42.000
<v Speaker 2>have supposed to have been legally, like people in the

1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:46.760
<v Speaker 2>colonies were not allowed to go beyond the Appalachian Mountains.

1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And I mean Boone and those guys, they trespassed into

1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and could basically make a solid year's income in

1:03:55.880 --> 1:04:00.600
<v Speaker 2>three to four months of trapping or deer hunting and

1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:04.760
<v Speaker 2>then bring those hides back into the colonies and sell them.

1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And so I mean, just like today, if you could

1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:12.880
<v Speaker 2>go Hayden make eighty grand in three months, I mean

1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:18.280
<v Speaker 2>you'd probably there's probably especially if the option, your prior

1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:23.120
<v Speaker 2>option was to make twenty grand. Yeah, working ten hours

1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:25.400
<v Speaker 2>a day, Yeah, you'd probably do.

1:04:25.880 --> 1:04:28.760
<v Speaker 1>You'd be surprised at what you might do. Yeah.

1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:29.360
<v Speaker 4>And so.

1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:33.520
<v Speaker 2>We go into we go into the deer skin, like

1:04:33.560 --> 1:04:35.520
<v Speaker 2>who was buying deer skins? And they were all going

1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to Europe and there was a there was a it

1:04:37.680 --> 1:04:42.640
<v Speaker 2>was a fashion trend, it was a functional trend. Deer

1:04:42.640 --> 1:04:45.960
<v Speaker 2>skin at that time was basically the denim of today.

1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>So is it like rough out leather? Is that what

1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:49.120
<v Speaker 1>they were?

1:04:49.440 --> 1:04:52.439
<v Speaker 2>It would have been smooth buckskin leather like the tan

1:04:52.600 --> 1:04:55.560
<v Speaker 2>deer skin leather gloves, which would have a rough outside,

1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:58.280
<v Speaker 2>just like a leather. Today it's got a smooth side

1:04:58.280 --> 1:05:00.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's got a rough.

1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:02.720
<v Speaker 4>You think you'd want the rough out out? Yeah, on

1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:09.720
<v Speaker 4>pants unless you're wearing buffalo brief. I may.

1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:12.920
<v Speaker 5>And if you can, I say something about how the.

1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how do you get how do you get

1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:15.280
<v Speaker 1>on Audible?

1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:16.600
<v Speaker 5>So it's an app.

1:05:16.760 --> 1:05:18.480
<v Speaker 6>The first thing you want to do is it's an

1:05:18.520 --> 1:05:21.240
<v Speaker 6>app that you download, so you you you go to

1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:24.080
<v Speaker 6>your app store on whatever phone you have and you

1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:28.480
<v Speaker 6>download it. You can create an Audible account with your

1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:32.640
<v Speaker 6>Amazon account. So if you have an Amazon account, use

1:05:32.720 --> 1:05:35.920
<v Speaker 6>that to create your profile, because that's the second thing

1:05:35.920 --> 1:05:38.840
<v Speaker 6>you're going to have to do. And and then you

1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:40.240
<v Speaker 6>have to pick your Amazon plan.

1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And oh wow, that's as complicated it is.

1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:44.040
<v Speaker 5>It's a little bit complicated for people.

1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:45.880
<v Speaker 2>It is more complicated. Listen to a podcast.

1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:48.680
<v Speaker 6>It is more complicated, but it's let me just say,

1:05:48.720 --> 1:05:50.600
<v Speaker 6>it's not as hard as you might think. So I've

1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:53.080
<v Speaker 6>seen a couple of comments, I'm a dinosaur. I don't

1:05:53.080 --> 1:05:53.680
<v Speaker 6>know how to do this.

1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:56.760
<v Speaker 5>That's right, doctor, it's it's it's you got this. You

1:05:56.880 --> 1:05:57.240
<v Speaker 5>got this.

1:05:58.040 --> 1:06:02.000
<v Speaker 6>Download the Audible app. Creat an account. If you have

1:06:02.040 --> 1:06:04.600
<v Speaker 6>an Amazon account, you can already you can just use

1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:08.720
<v Speaker 6>that account. And number three, number three, you pick a

1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:13.280
<v Speaker 6>plan or and and you've got several options and you'll

1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:15.440
<v Speaker 6>get The way it works on my account is I

1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:17.680
<v Speaker 6>get credits and I can use those credits.

1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:20.040
<v Speaker 1>You have a plan, you can get so many books

1:06:20.040 --> 1:06:20.880
<v Speaker 1>on tape.

1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.680
<v Speaker 5>And let me tell you some unlimited.

1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy listening to audiobooks when I'm on long trips

1:06:27.640 --> 1:06:30.400
<v Speaker 2>because a podcast on an eight or nine hour trip

1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:33.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you know, just goes by pretty quick. But

1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you put on a book and you can listen to it,

1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and you can listen to it however you want. But

1:06:37.720 --> 1:06:39.280
<v Speaker 2>some people have been like, when do you have time

1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to listen to an eight hour audio book? And it's like, well,

1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't just like sit in my office and like

1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:45.439
<v Speaker 2>listen to an audio book. You know what I mean.

1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:47.640
<v Speaker 6>You can do it when you work in the garden.

1:06:47.680 --> 1:06:49.440
<v Speaker 6>You can do it, when you write a mule. You

1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:50.600
<v Speaker 6>can do it on a road trip.

1:06:50.720 --> 1:06:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm literally of having ear pods in when I'm writing

1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:53.360
<v Speaker 2>a mual.

1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:57.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you bet you canting mule.

1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:00.160
<v Speaker 6>But you can do it when you're You can it

1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:02.080
<v Speaker 6>as you're dry. I'm just trying to help you out here.

1:07:03.080 --> 1:07:05.720
<v Speaker 5>You can. You can do it on your commute tone

1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:06.280
<v Speaker 5>from work.

1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I do it in my in laws. You do Joe Joe,

1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're just setting over.

1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:18.760
<v Speaker 2>You call your mother in law gal.

1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:22.480
<v Speaker 3>There's a there's old gals in the family. There are,

1:07:23.320 --> 1:07:25.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's in in in my line of work. That's

1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:30.360
<v Speaker 3>a that's a sign of love, endearment, that is Yeah.

1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:35.720
<v Speaker 4>He's called my mom woman for thirty six years now woman,

1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:38.600
<v Speaker 4>my woman, that's what he calls my woman. That's just

1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:39.080
<v Speaker 4>what it is.

1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It's another song.

1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:44.400
<v Speaker 4>That's it's a love, it's a it's ago. It's not disrespectful.

1:07:44.440 --> 1:07:47.880
<v Speaker 4>It's just a no, no, not.

1:07:48.160 --> 1:07:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe's sir, what do you want to tell us? Like,

1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:54.640
<v Speaker 2>we're closing down here, closing, closing thoughts, tell us, tell

1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:57.160
<v Speaker 2>us what you want to tell us. I usually start

1:07:57.200 --> 1:07:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the podcast when Joe's on and just go, Welcome to

1:07:59.880 --> 1:08:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the Burger's Podcast.

1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Joe take it away.

1:08:02.240 --> 1:08:04.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's kind of what we were playing what I'm

1:08:04.040 --> 1:08:04.400
<v Speaker 5>doing now.

1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:08.640
<v Speaker 3>But this week we are closing down so I can

1:08:08.720 --> 1:08:09.440
<v Speaker 3>talk a bit.

1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:14.760
<v Speaker 3>September seventh, twenty twenty four, we're bringing back the Squirrel Cookoff.

1:08:14.760 --> 1:08:16.640
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be at the same September seventh. That's a

1:08:16.640 --> 1:08:18.080
<v Speaker 1>good day, September seventh.

1:08:18.200 --> 1:08:20.559
<v Speaker 3>I arranged it, tried to get it in there amongst

1:08:20.640 --> 1:08:23.839
<v Speaker 3>all the hunting seasons and everything so no one would complain.

1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Hunters are a lot like beef papers, you know, they'll

1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:29.719
<v Speaker 3>complain a bunch by stuff.

1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like.

1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Two people go till Hunting and you're a fool for

1:08:35.000 --> 1:08:38.400
<v Speaker 3>having Squirrel Cookoff on the same day as Till Season.

1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So we've got that. Good job, Joe Man.

1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I would tell people that, you know, listening to your

1:08:47.240 --> 1:08:50.640
<v Speaker 3>show is an educational deal. It doesn't have any boundaries

1:08:50.680 --> 1:08:54.719
<v Speaker 3>of age or anything like that. I meet more people

1:08:55.680 --> 1:09:01.479
<v Speaker 3>who have young kids eight nine years old who enjoy

1:09:01.600 --> 1:09:04.360
<v Speaker 3>listening to the Bear Grease both shows for.

1:09:04.479 --> 1:09:07.800
<v Speaker 1>All three shows. This Country Life, Yeah.

1:09:07.240 --> 1:09:11.080
<v Speaker 3>This Country Life solid right. If you want something that's

1:09:11.120 --> 1:09:17.360
<v Speaker 3>completely different, I've got a podcast I wonder It's called

1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Cooking Up a Story with Aaron and Joe's and uh,

1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:22.840
<v Speaker 3>we we have a new show come out every week.

1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:26.360
<v Speaker 1>We don't typically do parts. We'll go three hours if

1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:28.679
<v Speaker 1>we got to. Yeah, and uh we.

1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Talk to common people and hear stories from struggle to success.

1:09:33.720 --> 1:09:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:09:34.439 --> 1:09:36.639
<v Speaker 3>And in my free time, I'm going to start listening

1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:40.320
<v Speaker 3>to Hayden's music. You then, yeah, heck yeah what it

1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:41.280
<v Speaker 3>sings like a bird?

1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Awesome?

1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Got awesor being choked by a bobcat.

1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:49.080
<v Speaker 5>He's saying like a bird, Joe this.

1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:49.479
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1:09:50.080 --> 1:09:52.960
<v Speaker 6>We've had a pretty active holiday season as a family,

1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:57.679
<v Speaker 6>and we've got some squirrels in the fridge. And Clay's mom, Judy,

1:09:58.040 --> 1:10:00.600
<v Speaker 6>had a little tradition of making egg rolls around New

1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:03.599
<v Speaker 6>Year's Day every year on their on their break, and

1:10:03.760 --> 1:10:05.400
<v Speaker 6>we kind of adopted that.

1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Because her egg rolls are rolls are good.

1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:10.080
<v Speaker 6>That's well, we're gonna try We're gonna we're getting ready

1:10:10.200 --> 1:10:10.760
<v Speaker 6>to try it.

1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:11.479
<v Speaker 5>And uh.

1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:15.479
<v Speaker 6>Something something that I think everyone should know is that

1:10:15.920 --> 1:10:19.400
<v Speaker 6>Bear bought himself a pan this week that I am

1:10:19.439 --> 1:10:20.240
<v Speaker 6>not allowed to use.

1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, did you really?

1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Ye?

1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:25.799
<v Speaker 8>You've been kind of quiet over there, but she always

1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:29.000
<v Speaker 8>gets mad at me for boiling deer skulls and stuff

1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:31.320
<v Speaker 8>in your pants in my house. I feel like that's

1:10:32.200 --> 1:10:35.320
<v Speaker 8>a completely reasonable thing to do. So you about your

1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:36.880
<v Speaker 8>own pants, So I about my own pan. I haven't

1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:39.479
<v Speaker 8>heard about this cook over like a fire out of

1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:39.880
<v Speaker 8>the sun.

1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:41.920
<v Speaker 6>The first thing you did when you walked in, I said,

1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:43.320
<v Speaker 6>how is your trip? He said, good, I bought a

1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:44.439
<v Speaker 6>pan and you can't use it.

1:10:45.320 --> 1:10:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you get you skillet?

1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Or it's just like a skillet pretty much, just like

1:10:52.200 --> 1:10:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a cheap skillet.

1:10:52.960 --> 1:10:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like ten dollars.

1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:55.599
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a.

1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Big move though it's his first pan, it's his first

1:10:58.240 --> 1:10:59.639
<v Speaker 6>personal bear.

1:10:59.680 --> 1:11:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make you promise next time I come up here,

1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I won't bring you I won't bring you a couple

1:11:05.520 --> 1:11:06.080
<v Speaker 3>good ones.

1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:09.040
<v Speaker 2>He'll do it too, he will.

1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring you a couple of good ones.

1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:12.599
<v Speaker 2>I think, Hey, you know what we ought to do

1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:16.400
<v Speaker 2>on a podcast, some stuff, live, cook something.

1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:19.240
<v Speaker 5>Joe's got to be there for that.

1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean he would do it. He's a man. Yeah, no,

1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I you could.

1:11:25.439 --> 1:11:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Just be talking to us Joe. So what Joe. What

1:11:29.200 --> 1:11:31.200
<v Speaker 2>we didn't say about Joe, which people would know, is

1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that he's a well he's he did say it. He's

1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:37.120
<v Speaker 2>a barbecue expert, cooks cooked for thousands and thousands.

1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:39.080
<v Speaker 5>Or at least he's a cel pham filter expert.

1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:42.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I could, I could photo shop. But yeah know

1:11:42.479 --> 1:11:46.439
<v Speaker 3>we fed, uh we fed over forty five thousand people

1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:48.680
<v Speaker 3>real by a steak across the country, you know, and

1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:49.639
<v Speaker 3>and so we do.

1:11:50.240 --> 1:11:51.280
<v Speaker 1>We do a lot of cooking.

1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:55.200
<v Speaker 3>And uh, I just think that if you're out hunting fishing,

1:11:55.840 --> 1:11:58.519
<v Speaker 3>learning how to cook it cook because one of the

1:11:58.560 --> 1:12:03.240
<v Speaker 3>flaws and being a hunter and a fisherman is people

1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:07.920
<v Speaker 3>will tell you there's trash fish or there's trash ducks.

1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:12.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm a firm believer we can make anything taste right

1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:13.280
<v Speaker 3>and people can.

1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Eat it, and you cook it right.

1:12:14.439 --> 1:12:16.720
<v Speaker 3>It just takes a little bit of time and uh,

1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:21.639
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of effort, maybe some decent seasoning, and

1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:27.400
<v Speaker 3>you can turn Man. I've cooked porcupines, I've cooked moose heads.

1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I've cooked everything that you can cook. If it's in

1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:33.960
<v Speaker 3>the state of Arkansas, I've probably cooked it. And as

1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:37.160
<v Speaker 3>a young guy listening to Bears stories, hanging out on

1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:41.479
<v Speaker 3>the creek and doing weird stuff with his clothes and

1:12:41.200 --> 1:12:45.880
<v Speaker 3>all of that, the next the next trip, the next

1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:47.519
<v Speaker 3>step is making it taste good.

1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And hey, we.

1:12:48.720 --> 1:12:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Need we're gonna do it. I think we need to

1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:52.920
<v Speaker 2>figure out how the logistics of it. But so thanks

1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.960
<v Speaker 2>for coming Joe, appreciate it, Doctor nukemb thank you for

1:12:56.000 --> 1:12:58.840
<v Speaker 2>being here. Bear, thank you for being here. Hayden, thanks

1:12:58.880 --> 1:12:59.360
<v Speaker 2>for coming up.

1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:00.160
<v Speaker 4>Man, glad to be it.

1:13:00.320 --> 1:13:03.000
<v Speaker 2>It was really great, really loved the song. Where can

1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:04.320
<v Speaker 2>people find all your stuff?

1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Anywhere? You can find anything? Yeaple, Spotify, Pandora. It's okay there, Okay, now,

1:13:10.200 --> 1:13:13.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean Montgomery County Shine isn't out there yet. Yeah,

1:13:13.280 --> 1:13:14.640
<v Speaker 4>it might, it might be.

1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It might be.

1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:18.720
<v Speaker 3>It's out now, it's actually on the Cooking Up the

1:13:18.760 --> 1:13:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Story Facebook page.

1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:21.800
<v Speaker 5>Well it probably is.

1:13:21.880 --> 1:13:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, and I'll be selling the rights to it.

1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:30.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll sign the copies.

1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:36.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, Happy New Year to everybody. I can't wait

1:13:36.520 --> 1:13:40.559
<v Speaker 2>for you to hear the next.

1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:42.519
<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be good. It's gonna be a good year

1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:43.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys,