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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukeleman.

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Speaker 2: This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

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Speaker 2: The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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Speaker 2: and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast,

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Speaker 2: presented by f HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting

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Speaker 2: and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged as

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Speaker 2: the place as we explore. Welcome to the Bear Grease

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Speaker 2: Render Podcast. My, oh my, what an incredible that's not

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Speaker 2: a microwave beeping.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was.

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Speaker 2: I've got to figure out how to make that stop. Joe,

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Speaker 2: it's my computer. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. When

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Speaker 2: people listen to this, this is gonna be after New Years.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that first show of the New year,

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Speaker 2: first show of the New year?

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Speaker 1: What in honor? And I've got to my right, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Wilson wearing the overalls making up for out so Brent.

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Speaker 2: Brent isn't here, and Joe told me that he was

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Speaker 2: going to be wearing his overalls, so.

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Speaker 1: He did, Yeah, tu facka knife?

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Speaker 2: Do you really? Are you serious? What are you carrying?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: I got this one up here and it says it's

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Speaker 3: a Tree Brand.

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Speaker 1: Tree Brand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's a nice little folder, and then lock

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Speaker 2: blade folder and then over here I got that case

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Speaker 2: double x. Oh this is your loaner. Yeah, Hayden, do

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Speaker 2: you know about that? You bet?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So if you ask Joe for a knife to scratch

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Speaker 2: around on the rims of your truck or something.

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Speaker 1: You'll be like, sure, use this one.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of like that guy he's talking about early.

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna use it for?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, nice, good work, good work, so Joe Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Joe is famous, world famous for the World Championship Squirrel Cookoff.

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Speaker 5: For cooking, but for hosts well for a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of and other stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Podcaster Sheep Dog Steak cooking, Bear Grease. Yeah, you've been

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Speaker 2: on Bear Grease several times. So I'll introduce everybody to

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Speaker 2: Joe's right is my lovely wife, mistery newkelemb Hi. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: Great to see you, looking forward to talking with you.

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Speaker 2: Uh skipping over our mystery guests, Bear John Newcomb making

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Speaker 2: his second appearance on the Bear Grease render who of late.

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Speaker 2: Good to see Bear Bear has been out. He went

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Speaker 2: on a big expedition the other day. Just like told me,

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Speaker 2: how haven't we been gone for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: I've been admiring those stories.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're true stories. They're true stories.

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Speaker 1: I don't doubt them. They're great.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean he just told me. He was like,

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Speaker 2: I think that's all he would have told me. I

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Speaker 2: think he would have just said, Dad, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: gone for a couple of days, and just like expected

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Speaker 2: that that was enough information. I'm like, Okay, where are

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Speaker 2: you going going hunting?

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Speaker 4: I can't I do that to my wife.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's not good.

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Speaker 5: You got a break this habit before you get married.

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Speaker 4: I get one of those spot things now, so she

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Speaker 4: track me. Oh good, Yeah, that way if I have

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Speaker 4: a mule flip over on me, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, that's what it's for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's mainly what it's for. I have one to

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Speaker 4: do that one time.

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Speaker 2: So our mystery guests, Hayden pal, you bet glad to

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Speaker 2: be here, man. So I met Hayden in person for

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Speaker 2: the first time about thirty minutes ago. And so he's

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Speaker 2: been here at the Global Headquarters Misty and I do

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Speaker 2: him like I do every other guest that comes here.

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Speaker 2: They want to talk to me, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, stop,

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Speaker 2: don't talk now.

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Speaker 4: Joe's one here done.

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Speaker 3: We think Hayden's only got thirty minute. It's where the

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's about it, Joe.

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Speaker 2: So if you're ever invited to this podcast, you should

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Speaker 2: come thirty seconds early and be silent, and then when

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Speaker 2: you walked in you could just we could just talk.

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Speaker 2: But no, Hayden, great, great to have you. You're from Norman, Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: In between there and Kata Gap. Yeah, I don't claim Norman.

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Speaker 2: I don't know which is okay. Yeah, Norman's like where

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Speaker 2: the big city folks.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the high rollers. You got to watch this shit.

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Speaker 4: They got double wids over there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no times on the roof. I know he's we're joking,

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Speaker 2: It's like wherever you live, the big city is always

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Speaker 2: So if you if you live somewhere like the big city,

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Speaker 2: normans all of fifteen hundred people.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen the three hundred and six.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, Okay, So what's cattle gap?

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Speaker 4: Kettle Gap is ninety seven and two good coon dogs?

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Speaker 2: Mount Gilliababist Church as possible. We're gonna we're gonna do

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Speaker 4: We're gonna check it out. I actually takes my mom

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Speaker 4: here in a minute now, Yeah, I'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: You should have brought your mom.

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Speaker 4: I should have brought my mom.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't you have done so?

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Speaker 2: So Hayden is the reason I invited Hayden three three prongs.

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Speaker 1: He's a mule man, you bet.

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Speaker 2: He's a musician, you bet. And he's from my home

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Speaker 2: turf down in the Washtoss. That's right east west east

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Speaker 2: east west, baby, that's right. Mountains run east west, even

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Speaker 2: the only the only mountain range between the Appalachians and

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Speaker 2: Rockies that run east and west. Joe, do you know?

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Speaker 2: Do you know the orogeny of the washtall mountains? Big

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Speaker 2: words sounds weird. It's a powerful word.

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Speaker 1: Break it down.

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Speaker 2: Erogeny is the word for mountain building. Look here, I

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Speaker 4: Well, they're real mountains, they are mountains.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have a book about, uh, the origin of

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of courts. So because I see it

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Speaker 3: all alongside the road for five dollars, five dollars, is

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Speaker 3: that how much courts is?

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Speaker 4: I was going to bring one for you, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, Okay, we got, we got.

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Speaker 2: We got to establish this real quick about once a

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Speaker 2: into a deep, deep history of the Washtall Those aren't

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Speaker 2: mountains in orogeny. In orogeny, yeah, mountain formation. When the

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Speaker 2: and when and when those there were sedimentary layers of

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Speaker 2: causing intense heat and pressure, which makes what the Washington

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Speaker 2: metamorphic rock.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of slate down at college.

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Speaker 3: It's a great place, great place for spring training of baseball,

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Speaker 3: tea for real. Well, yeah, down there in Hot Springs.

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Speaker 3: That's where all the Major League Baseball teams.

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Speaker 4: Used to try the rest of Hot Springs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's where Babe Ruth used to play down

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Speaker 3: there and all those people.

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Speaker 5: Really. Spring training is huge in Phoenix, a good.

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Speaker 1: Year, but it all started in Hot Springs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well back to the interesting stuff. So the Washtall

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Speaker 2: Mountains used to be ten thousand foot tall and snow covered.

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Speaker 4: They declined about nine thousands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, today they're not quite that big. But uh no

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Speaker 2: so so so hayden Is is from down there, and

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Speaker 2: oh I got it. So so I'll come on not

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Speaker 2: right now, umping right into it. Well, I want to

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Speaker 2: ask you about the jar by your feet.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to tell you about it. Really,

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Speaker 4: my buddy Ben Cogburn, I am, Well, what's back up?

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Speaker 4: Me and my boss Rusty, we were he lives over

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Speaker 4: in the ose Arts, but we were talking about I

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Speaker 4: told him about coming here, and uh we were talking

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Speaker 4: a coon is practically a small bear, and he was

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Speaker 4: like yeah, it is. So then I started doing research

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Speaker 4: and you can use the fat off of a coon

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Speaker 4: just like a can of bear ill. So my buddy

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Speaker 4: Ben Cogburn, he caught me too while I was at work,

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Speaker 4: and that is what is in this jar.

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Speaker 2: You rendered some coon grease.

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Speaker 4: It looked a lot better than that.

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Speaker 1: You should start.

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Speaker 2: You should start a spur off podcast called coung grease.

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Speaker 4: Well, if I knew how to do it, I would.

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Speaker 4: I'm not very technicality.

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Speaker 1: Bear describe what that looks like.

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Speaker 4: Just take a swig of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just take a big drink of a bear look palatable.

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Speaker 1: It looks like really watery. Don't judge a gravy. Don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a it's kind of a chocolate brown.

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Speaker 2: We were discussing how it looks compared to bear grease.

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Speaker 2: Bear grease is uh, it looks different.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a little darker. But it has a great smell.

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Speaker 2: There's there's no you wouldn't smell that grease and think,

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Speaker 2: oh that's a coon.

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Speaker 4: Now that's what it looked like.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Oh it looked really good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was like beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Ever so coung grease.

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Speaker 1: Nice work, I'm gonna nice. Don't mind. I think I'll

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Speaker 1: rim this lid.

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Speaker 4: Stick your fingertick your tongue off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Joe just got the lid and he's got a dollar.

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Speaker 4: Stick your whole finger in that jar. Come on, get

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Speaker 4: the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: You got deeper? Okay, kind of gotta knock the chunks

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about that.

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Speaker 2: It's just some hair mm licking the finger.

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Speaker 1: It's a fairly dry grease. Now what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 4: You're awfully wet?

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Speaker 3: Well so so it's almost like I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you'd put it in a hinge on the door.

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Speaker 4: It's not sticky.

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Speaker 1: It's not sticky. Duck fat is a dry fat.

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Speaker 4: It's supposed to be good for boots, conditioning, boots and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's it's doing a number on my lips.

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with it?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: It ain't tingly or nothing like that. Okay, it's just.

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Speaker 4: Uh like you're gonna go home and render some coode.

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Speaker 3: But I could say, make a great lip bomb. What's

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Speaker 3: that guy's name? He does the bee wax.

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Speaker 5: Birds bees?

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Speaker 1: Yep. I think we got Hayden Coon what it tastes like?

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Speaker 1: What did it taste like?

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Speaker 3: It's a real dry fat, man, I could tell that

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Speaker 3: you probably overcooked it.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was fast in a Dutch oven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quick, I think it clays the bear grease master, Joe. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be I'm just saying I could

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Speaker 3: it tastes like whenever you've got your your drippings from

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Speaker 1: That's so.

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Speaker 2: This is a quart Mason jar and it's full just

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Speaker 2: beyond the halfway point. That's quite a bit of coon

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Speaker 4: I mean, I really didn't go just crazy on it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean like you started probably with over a

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Speaker 4: Though you say, yeah, there was a lot. When they

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Speaker 3: It's not bad. I think he can make some chocolate

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's browning. That's good. Joe. You were

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Speaker 3: Well, I did something. I've been bald a long time,

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Speaker 3: and I'll just tell you there's great pleasure for a

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Speaker 1: Like you, Clay, that's a handsome beard. Joe.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tuesday, I treated myself to getting a barber shop

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Speaker 1: Really well, I.

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Speaker 3: Just I wasn't used to people jacking around on my

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Speaker 3: And I was told not to trim it myself for

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Speaker 1: And are you? Are you? I feel like you're making

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Speaker 6: Making some assumptions. There's a lot of inferential things happening here.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's kind of like I took a whole finger

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Speaker 3: at Bear lookungrease, Minica. I'm just telling you for all

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Speaker 1: Bucks, go in sit down in that chair. Who did it?

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Speaker 3: Some old gal at the barbershop? Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those richie places there.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, what what barbershop? Was it? Hawk? Something?

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Speaker 2: Because I've got a friend, a friend of the podcast

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Speaker 6: I'll just be honest, I feel a responsibility to kind

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Speaker 6: just let them know not a good idea to refer

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Speaker 6: women who are who get to hold razors close to

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Speaker 3: With that.

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Speaker 7: Well, your bears looks really good. Hudson, Hawk and Bentonville. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 7: they did a fine job. That nice lady.

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Speaker 4: If you rub some of that coon grease on your

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Speaker 4: maybe that cures baldness too.

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Speaker 5: Have you tried bease on my Oh you go to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of advantages to not having hair on

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Speaker 3: Number one, you ain't gotta wash it. Number two, don't

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Speaker 1: You don't have to.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to wash his hair because it's not there.

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Speaker 3: The water just beads off the top. Hey, I've got

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Speaker 2: Let me let me uh. I want to give a

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Speaker 1: You know, they say that bear grease.

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Speaker 2: The folklore around bear grease is that it's a cure

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Speaker 2: for baldness. That's a that's a long time folklorts and

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Speaker 2: the literature says it on the shirt. Yeah, it says it.

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Speaker 2: It says on the shirt. Good point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I learned.

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Speaker 2: Where that came from is that when the Europeans first

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Speaker 1: Hair, that's true story.

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Speaker 2: And so the white guys that came over here, the

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Speaker 3: And it's so willing to be your test dummy, but

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Speaker 3: I'm going to need a lot of pillow cases because

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Speaker 3: I ain't leaping on some greasy pillow case.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you got to catch it before you

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Speaker 4: go ball that regrow hair. I don't think it will.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm concerned now that I know the history that this

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Speaker 2: Well, and its lasted long into folklore. I mean, I've

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Speaker 2: no doubt, have you done muck tuck negative next time?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm well fat, I have I've eaten it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I've got a nice head of hair, Joe, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that make you lose weight?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fallow it whenever you had yesterday will come

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Speaker 3: up with it. Is uh tough muck tuck. Where we

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Speaker 3: go up in Alaska, the WIT's you'll see them on

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Speaker 3: road with a butter knife, big chunk of weal fat

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, and they love it.

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Speaker 3: So I've made friends with a couple of Inuits and

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Speaker 3: chunk of weal fat. I keep it in my freezer

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Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna have some well fat and some grease.

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Speaker 4: You take it that home with you you can have.

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Speaker 2: When I So, I have had muktuk one time, and

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Speaker 2: it was beautiful. It was it was this cream white

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Speaker 2: am I right? And it was cut real thin, and

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Speaker 1: And I ate it.

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Speaker 2: And I've never I've never had a food that like

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Speaker 1: I thought it would taste. Like it was going to

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Speaker 2: I mean it tasted like the ocean, like it wasn't

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Speaker 2: fishy like a fish. It's like that tastes like a fish.

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Speaker 2: Muck tuck tastes like the ocean. Like my world just

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of.

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Speaker 2: Exaggerating, but it tastes more like the like when you

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Speaker 2: like you don't. Yeah, anyway, that's purf. So, Hayden, you're

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Speaker 4: I play music, Yes, play country music.

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Speaker 1: How long you've been playing music?

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Speaker 4: Uh? There's a picture of me with a guitar when

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Speaker 4: I was like four.

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Speaker 2: Did your parents were they musicians?

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Speaker 4: My dad plays a guitar. Mom and dad both sing

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Speaker 2: So, okay, did you you grew up on a cattle farm?

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Speaker 1: That right? Hey?

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Speaker 4: My dad looks practically identical to Randy Owens of Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Oh he did when he had hair, he did.

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Speaker 3: He suffers from So you came from a family of musicians?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and you're you're twenty four years old?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Sam, but my uncle's on my dad's side. It

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Speaker 4: would be my granny's brothers. They played in Patsy Klein's band.

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Speaker 4: Who again, though my it would be my great uncles.

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Speaker 4: So it's on my dad's side. It's my dad's mom's brothers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's some family heritage inside of music.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Granny like my family.

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Speaker 1: Hayden.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I'm glad you brought it up. But

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Speaker 1: You sound like George Strake country music. Is that George Straight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh? Like if George Straight and Ronnie Dunn had

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong in saying that?

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Speaker 2: Did I? It's possible to have the wrong country music.

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Speaker 5: I've heard.

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Speaker 1: He's a little more twangy.

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Speaker 4: I'm twiny. I'm pretty Twiny's who am I thinking of them?

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Speaker 4: I feel like Ronnie Dunk Maybe Ronnie Dunt I've been

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Speaker 4: told of I sound kind of like Ronnie Dunn, just

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Speaker 2: Here we will, We're we're gonna get you to play

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Speaker 2: one time when you were in Nashville for a while, like,

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Speaker 4: I've been quit for the last year just because I

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Speaker 4: a lot of good friends in music. Merle Haggard's lead

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Speaker 1: So are you Are you still pursuing? Like I don't

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Speaker 1: If you're not, I would love it if you just

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Speaker 2: I actually have a lot of respect for people that

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Speaker 1: That's I mean.

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Speaker 4: The thing is I was doing it and everybody was

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Speaker 4: You've got to do it, You've got to do it.

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Speaker 4: And one day I was like, I don't want to

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Speaker 4: weekend and stuff, and it was just it was getting hard,

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00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 4: it was becoming a job. It wasn't fun anymore, you know,

445
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 4: So I pretty will quit. But then this is no kidd.

446
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 4: Two weeks ago, I've been praying about the last two months.

447
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm a religious person. I've been praying about the last

448
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 4: two months. I finally quit the way I pray and

449
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 4: I say, Lord, let your will be done in my

450
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 4: life instead of Lord, give me music. I want it

451
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: so bad and I've I've changed it. And then all

452
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you know, Clay Nukeomb invites me to

453
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 4: come play some music on the podcast. So, I mean,

454
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: we might be getting fired back up. This might be

455
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 4: the the top of it here, I hear it.

456
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: But you're you're writing, you're writing some yeap.

457
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: So you you uh so you still you still playing some?

458
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

459
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I play. I enjoyed. I enjoyed writing more than

460
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: I do. I'm a lyricist, like if a song don't

461
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 4: make sense to me, I don't really like it. I like,

462
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: I like wordy stuff. I like Willie and Nelson. He

463
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 4: had a lot of word wordy stuff, but he can't

464
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: hardly sing very good.

465
00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: So but.

466
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: He had wordy stuff and I liked it. But Dean Dillon,

467
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 4: one of the best writers ever, wrote for George st

468
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 4: you bet, and uh he's a wordy and melody type

469
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 4: person that, I mean, heck of a writer.

470
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: So what does what does somebody do when they try

471
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: to get into the music industry?

472
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: Like what what was your what was your pathway?

473
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: I fell into it. I want a State Beta Convention.

474
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: I went up there and sang a George Strait song

475
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: and I want I was right, yeah, And I went

476
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: to Nationals and uh, we placed like tenth I think

477
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: maybe in that. And then here it came. Everybody started calling,

478
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: and we created a band and hammered down and I

479
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 4: went to Nashville playing all those award shows and de outed.

480
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 4: I didn't really like it. I liked riding my mule,

481
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: being away from people.

482
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: Do well.

483
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: You know, today more than ever probably is a space

484
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: for like, for people that don't have to me can

485
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: produce music wherever you live. Yeah, you can distribute music

486
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: wherever you live. You know, there's so many you know,

487
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: channels these days to for distribution of music. It feels

488
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: like with some of these guys, they haven't gone the

489
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: traditional route, yeah through Nashville, or paid your dues.

490
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: A lot of them, I mean don't even They haven't

491
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: even played in the bar and got beer bottlestone at them.

492
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: You know, I think it would surprise people how little

493
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: money these musicians are chasing, you know, whenever it's costing

494
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: them money.

495
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to play.

496
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: And some good friends of mine, you know, they'll go

497
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: all the way down from here to Florida to play

498
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: for three hundred bucks and.

499
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: They were getting paid.

500
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: They got paid. Wow, they got paid.

501
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: But you know, you do it because you're paying your dues, right,

502
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: and you pay your dues till you get to the

503
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: point where someone gives you a contract. You hope that

504
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: that contract is legit. You're not gonna you're not gonna

505
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: get rolled over on that deal.

506
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: I had a contract offered to me, and I rolled

507
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: it around and got to looking at the fine print

508
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: on it, and uh, they want me to wear skinny

509
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: jeans and stuff and loses the cowboy hat, and uh,

510
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: ain't about that. I think you could get real pretty

511
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 4: if you I think I could.

512
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you go that barber I went to the

513
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: other day get my hair cut.

514
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, call her by a right name, and who knows

515
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 5: what you might come out there.

516
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I just I just called her, mam, missy.

517
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: I just cook on its mam.

518
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: Saying hey, old Joe told me to see an old

519
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 4: gallon here that we could have cut my hair.

520
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, y'all.

521
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: I'm thirsty and I want to drink that water, but

522
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm afraid that coon grease is like rainex all through

523
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: my mouth or something.

524
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: She's gonna beat us. It's still, it's with me.

525
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 6: Does he not leave it any times?

526
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: Wow?

527
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: It's here with me? Is good?

528
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: Tell me about your mules, Hayden. How many mules you

529
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: got does your family have?

530
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: I own two, two meals, two horses. Dad has two mules.

531
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: He had three. He had a team. One of them

532
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 4: just died. She was thirty three, thirty four.

533
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: Really yeah, a team. So they pulled a wagon.

534
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah he was. He's all about the wagon stuff.

535
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Really yeah.

536
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 4: He's been wanting me to break one of my mules

537
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: to pull with his other mule.

538
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Does he ever go to the wagon races up here?

539
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: No, he's pretty laid back. He don't like going fast.

540
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: So imagine that somebody with a wagon. Yeah, not wanting

541
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: to go fast.

542
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: Weird.

543
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: So uh so you did your family grow up with mules?

544
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: Did you have mules when you grew up?

545
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Or horses?

546
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: I listen to this, my dad just like any five

547
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: year old, I want a horse, you know. So he

548
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: yet he goes and gets me a horse. He paid

549
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars for this horse, and he got a

550
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: sack of feed with it. So he comes back and

551
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: it's this paint horse that is a bag of bones,

552
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: and he's a stud and he's never been rode. So

553
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: he said, here you go, here's your horse. So that's

554
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: when I started riding. But he was so poor. You

555
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: could get on him and he couldn't buck. That's how

556
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 4: poor he was.

557
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 1: He was. He you were five, inflexible.

558
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: You bet I bounced, but he threw me up there,

559
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: and I rode that horse. I gave him to a kid.

560
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: That horse ended up being a heck of a horse

561
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: because I rode it every day. And my dad ended

562
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: up getting it cut because he was pretty steady. But

563
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: I rode it every day, every religiously, every day. And

564
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: I ended up getting mules and other horses and stuff.

565
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: And he was getting up in his teens. And a

566
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: boy was splitting wood for my dad. He is probably ten,

567
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: and he was wanting a horse bad. And he was

568
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: out there petting that horse one day and I went

569
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 4: and talked to his dad. I said, you mind if

570
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: I give him that horse, and h He's like, as.

571
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: Long as it comes with a bag of field.

572
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: So ended up I went over that boy was petting

574
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: on it. I walked up to him in the field

575
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 4: and I said, if you want that horse and go

576
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: ask your dad, y'all can have it. And he still

577
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: got it now. And that was four or five years ago, probably. Okay,

578
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: he's a he's a good one.

579
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: His nails, doc, what kind of what kind of described

580
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: to me?

581
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: Your mules?

582
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: Well, they got long ears and heads. I've got Kate.

583
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: She is twenty three, wow, twenty two, she's twenty two.

584
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: She's fourteen hands, pretty small and uh.

585
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: Twenty two years old.

586
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: She goes where you poled her. That's right, She'll she'll

587
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: go anywhere you point her. And you can shoot off

588
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: of her. You can shoot a gun off of her,

589
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: you can shoot your bowl off of her, you can

590
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 4: stand up on her and do whatever you want. I

591
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: packed out two pigs on her.

592
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

593
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: We were hog hunting down in Arkadelphia with my buddy Aaron,

594
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: and Uh they had a boy was dragging one that

595
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: was alive behind his horse and my mules. I guess

596
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: she had never seen one. She went up there and

597
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: sniffed of it, and then she went to pauling the

598
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: heck out of that booger. Yeah, And everybody was making

599
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: fun of me because I showed up with him loaded

600
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: in the back of my truck and got out. And

601
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: everybody's making fun of me, calling me dumb and stuff

602
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: because I ride a mule.

603
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: Oh man, where do these guys live?

604
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 6: Now?

605
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: We're gonna go find them.

606
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: They Let's pause your story just for a second. Remember

607
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: where you're at where the hog story? And I remember

608
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: robbing Kate. I was reading a book yesterday. I woke

609
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: up real early yesterday for no good reason, before four

610
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: am and just couldn't go to sleep, And so I

611
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: woke up and I started reading this book I'm reading.

612
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: I won't tell you what it is. But the guy

613
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: in this this is a true story. This guy he

614
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: was a drug dealer, okay, true story, and he was

615
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: using an Apple Loosa horse ranch as the front as

616
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: the front of his of his marijuana growing operation. And

617
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: right there in the pages of that book he said

618
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: that he was going to buy a horse. And he

619
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: said it it said it was so ugly it looked

620
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: like a mule.

621
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, I gasped in the like I was trying

622
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: to be quiet close to the Oh my what just I.

623
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Literally gasped and underlined it a big question mark, and

624
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: I said, what. But the book was written back in

625
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: like the nineteen ninety Well is that it actually was

626
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: written in the early two thousand. But he had only

627
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: been a horse breeder from back in the eighties, so

628
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: I think he hadn't been updated. That mules are now

629
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: like really cool.

630
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: Oh they're top of the line. The cowboy Cadillac, yeah,

631
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: is what I call them.

632
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: So when did mules jump to the top of the line.

633
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: And Hayden start.

634
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 6: I just want to make sure. I just want to

635
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: make sure for all the listeners and everyone understands. When

636
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 6: that is worth more than horses, you might very well

637
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 6: be in the midst of a revolution.

638
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: That's right, I'm saying it right now. It is. Everybody's

639
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: going to be riding mules in the next It's cool

640
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: to go backwards now, that's what I'm trying to do.

641
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Is that all part of this green initiative?

642
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: Like Echo, If we're not going to have that battery

643
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: powered brig, we just got to go straight.

644
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: You gotta have a mule. Okay, back to your story.

645
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: So you're you're you're hauling these guys make fun of

646
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: We're going to me and you're going to go.

647
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not a violent person. I've actually never been

648
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: in a you'll.

649
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: Use your words, You'll come with them with your words.

650
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: Well, or we might just fistfight them.

651
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: I mean the one he's uh, he's like six, so

652
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: much to clear and he was he was he's been overseas. Okay,

653
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: we'll try to steer clear of him. And uh, but

654
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: he made fun of your mule, so okay, he's kind

655
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: of odd to me and him he wasn't actually making

656
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: fun of me. The other guys were.

657
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Nathan will give him a pass.

658
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: No, No, Nathan's the bad one. Aaron was a good one.

659
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, but got it, got it?

660
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they made fun of me. And as soon

661
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: as O Kate went to whacking on that hog, I

662
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: think one of them asked how much would you take

663
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: for her?

664
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

665
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: Really changed their mind right there, changed their being burrito. Yeah,

666
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: so Kate is your twenty two year old mule?

667
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: You got another one?

668
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: She's a baby? Uh Crash?

669
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's not a good name for a deal.

670
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: Well he was named before me. So what do you do? Okay,

671
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: you can't change him? Okay, you know that, right, Yeah.

672
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: I pretty much knew that.

673
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: It's bad luck. It's like a boat, right, you can't

674
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: rename a boat either.

675
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know.

676
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Hey, when you get done, I've got I've got a

677
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: little update on my mule.

678
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: But so you you name Crash.

679
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah I do. He Uh he's like thirteen two hands, Okay,

680
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: so that's small. He's getting pretty small.

681
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: A hand a hand is four inches.

682
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: A hand is a finger, A finger, a finger a hand.

683
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: That's how I've always met because everybody always says he's he.

684
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: Just started fingers like one, two, three.

685
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: Four, four, says hand a hand.

686
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: There you go.

687
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: Everybody always says this horse is fourteen point five hands

688
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: there's no such thing as a point five. Okay, there's

689
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: only a one, two and a three and then it's

690
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: a hand. So you got fourteen one one, fourteen two,

691
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: fourteen three, fifteen.

692
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Got it?

693
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that drives me crazy, but it does so fourteen

694
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: and Uh if somebody said fourteen and a half, they

695
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: would be saying fourteen two.

696
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

697
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: I guess yes, I've been guilty of that.

698
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: I've been guilty that before.

699
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: I was actually bringing up because of you.

700
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: You wanted to contract. I get it, I get it,

701
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: I get it.

702
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 4: No crash, he's uh, he's thirteen, and he's a he's

703
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: a pack meal. You a right, I mean you can.

704
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: He's just plow rainer. Really he's not. He's kind of

705
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: weird about people being behind him too. Your meals are

706
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 4: a little odd, peculiar, but uh.

707
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: The good ones, you got to break that peculiar out

708
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: of them.

709
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: See Grady Hawthorne told me, and he lives over by

710
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: David Albright. Okay, they're next door neighbors. Oh yeah, yeah,

711
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Grady told me. There's good mules and there's bad mules.

712
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: It's no in between. I mean that's he said, that's it,

713
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 4: and he's broken he's eighty two, I think, and he's

714
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: broken his whole life. And uh, he said there's nothing

715
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: better than a good mule. And he said there's nothing

716
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: worse than a bad mule. Yeah, and that's the truth.

717
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: But Crash, he's Crash is he's in the middle. He's

718
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 4: not bad or good.

719
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: So it doesn't even exist.

720
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 4: So I know that's what I'm I'm I'm I'm in

721
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 4: a dilemma.

722
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: Right, existential crisis.

723
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think it will probably is worth even more

724
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: money's so rare.

725
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think I think the one in the

726
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: middle is on its way down to a crash.

727
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on its way down to a wreck.

728
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: That's right. That's why. Maybe that's why his name is Crash.

729
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, so so I so here's my mule

730
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: update is that I got a new mule.

731
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: I'll show him to you, the little one out.

732
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one in the corral out there, eight months old, okay,

733
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: and uh it's it's a pretty black mule with four

734
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: white sox feet.

735
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, good looking.

736
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were gonna we thought we had many names.

737
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: I got the mule from and the guy didn't name it.

738
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: He was just like the mules kind of had my

739
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: name on it for a while, and so he the

740
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: he weaned this mule and got it wins eight months old,

741
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: and uh, I was good. I thought about naming it Jet.

742
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: We thought about naming it another name that was of

743
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: a family member that we can't uh. We we decided

744
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: not to name it after the family member. But I

745
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: was the mule's name is slow Trap?

746
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Smooth like you talking about a mule?

747
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know, I oh, the name doesn't like

748
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: roll off the tongue, But I told it came to

749
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: me again on the early morning reading session and I

750
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: just woke up and I just like declared it and

751
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: there was no question. There was no debate before the

752
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: mule's name. I was asking the family, like, what do

753
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 2: you think you think we should call it Jet? Should

754
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: we call it this or that? And I just like

755
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: woke up and I was like, the mule's name is slow.

756
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 5: Trap, and where'd you get slow trapped?

757
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: Slow Trap was a good friend of Frederick Gershtocker. I

758
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: reread my Gershtocker book, this book Wild Sports, which is

759
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: probably one of my favorite books in the world. That book,

760
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: it's about Arkansas and or a lot of the adventures

761
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: in this true story take place in Arkansas and one

762
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: of Gershtalker's dear friends, and I had forgotten about him

763
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: because he's not a central character. But his name was

764
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: Slow Trap and he was from the Fouche La Fay area.

765
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: The La Fay River is south.

766
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: Of the arc Saw River runs into the Arkansas in

767
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: the Washtalls and Slow Trap was like an eccentric but

768
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: very skilled woodsman. And uh, anyway, there's some Gershtalker talks

769
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: about a lot of really unique stuff about Slow Trap,

770
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: which we won't get into. But when I read it,

771
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: I was like, that mule's name is slow Trap.

772
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 4: I mean, but for sure, you just call him slower Trap.

773
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: You don't have to say slow Trap.

774
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. I hadn't even thought about it.

775
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: We called him the Trap.

776
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: That's like my dad's mule. She's about she's a black

777
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: meal that's got white stockings, and her name is fancy

778
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: and he was trying to change it to something else.

779
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: I was like, you can't do that. Her name's already fancy.

780
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: You can't do She's thirteen years old. What if you

781
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 4: what would you do if your name has changed?

782
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: Whenever the fancy old gal, Well.

783
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: He started calling her.

784
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: There you go.

785
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 4: He started calling her fan fan or Fanny.

786
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: So okay, I mean that's that's fair game.

787
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 4: I call her fancy.

788
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

789
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Uh, do you do you ever show your do your

790
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: do you shoe your mules? Not personally, but do your

791
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: are your mules?

792
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Shot? Yeah?

793
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: One of them is?

794
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: Yes, one of them, Kate, just one.

795
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: You're using a lot.

796
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: She's got bad feet.

797
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

798
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 4: Oh really some of the guy that had her before me. Uh,

799
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: kind of let her feet go and we're working on

800
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: getting her built back up.

801
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, do you ever shoe your mules?

802
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Me? Personally?

803
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: No, I don't do any fair work.

804
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: I would say the name of the guy who does it,

805
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 4: but he said he doesn't want any more work. So,

806
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: but he's an exceptional he does a great job on him.

807
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, let him know if he needs any tips for me.

808
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: You can give him my phone number.

809
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

810
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: Hey, they make those velcrow boots slip over him. Now,

811
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 4: I've heard those are pretty cool.

812
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: Now, Joe, there's there's many things in this world that

813
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: a man shouldn't bring up publicly or post pictures of

814
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: what he does.

815
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I've probably done them all. Well. The list is long.

816
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: Different on the short list on the short list is

817
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: doing anything with the foot of an equine, like putting

818
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: shoes on it. People, they come out of the woodwork.

819
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: The second one is anything that has to do with bees.

820
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, the b people come apery, apery people.

821
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 6: Well yeah, beekeepers. Beekeepers very passionate and dogmatic, I.

822
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: Think, and unable, like incapable of just seeing somebody do

823
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: something a certain way and not telling you or whoever

824
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: else how it absolutely should be done.

825
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 6: The one capable of every bee keeper, whether it's the

826
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 6: same as the bee keeper to the next of them,

827
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: is absolutely rigid and absolute.

828
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: It's like cooking brisket.

829
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: Oh okay, so we didn't know that.

830
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh, well do you post?

831
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: I mean, but when you post a brisket, like a

832
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: picture of a brisket, and people don't criticize you, do

833
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: they my briskets?

834
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: No.

835
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a master of the filters on that iPhone.

836
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 3: Oh I could do some shading, okay, kind of crop

837
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: a little bit, do some work. I mean, I can

838
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: make a four pound bass look like it's as big

839
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: as a tree. I've got some skills in it. But

840
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: brisket cooking is the same deal, because you gotta have

841
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: that color of the bark right then it goes all

842
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: the way back to the trim.

843
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you should have trimmed it a little bit.

844
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, barbecue guys are the same deal. They're a lot

845
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: like a beekeeper. And they never even knew it. They

846
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: didn't know, they didn't know.

847
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: I had no idea. It was the most overwhelming thing

848
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: in the world to me. I was so excited that,

849
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 6: you know, keep my first beast, and we Clay. I

850
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: didn't put a picture, Clay put a picture up. And

851
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 6: I mean people came out of the woodwork otherwise kind

852
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 6: people came out of the woodwork to offer all sorts

853
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: of advice. And every time someone heard I was keeping bees,

854
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 6: they said, well, you know this, you know that, you

855
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 6: know you're supposed to do this rules.

856
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: It was overwhelming.

857
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: Are you better at it now or you.

858
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 5: Well, no one's rules are the same.

859
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: That's right, And we still got bees and we got

860
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: honey set way to do something.

861
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 6: I'm a minimalist and everything it turns out like that's

862
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 6: important and and it I think I am. Actually I

863
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 6: don't think I could market myself as a minimalist in

864
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 6: the way that people do, but at my very core

865
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 6: I think I'm more minimalistic than anyone I know.

866
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: I don't. I genuinely don't like that.

867
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: I'll give you this, missy, when you cook that brisket,

868
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: send the picture to me first.

869
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: I'll filter and crop it.

870
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: We'll put it out there and see what happens.

871
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: We'll make it okay, all right, the critiques will be

872
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 3: way down lowed.

873
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 5: Okay.

874
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: I got a question for the singer over here. Yep,

875
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: he's he's looking over his shoulder. You wake up to

876
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: a song, like do you do you dream about a song?

877
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: Have you ever woke up and written down?

878
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely what you were dreaming about? There was music, and.

879
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: There's a I recorded a song that I that I

880
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 4: had a dream about and woke up in the middle

881
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: of night ten minutes wrote it. There it is. It's

882
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: called Real Grand. Really, it's on all the stuff.

883
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who will sit.

884
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: For hours and hours and try to do that drive

885
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: in a song, you know, try to build a song.

886
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: And then there's guys that just there's songs.

887
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: I think God gives you, gives you your songs, the

888
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: good heartfelt songs minus Real Grand because Real Grand's about

889
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 4: killing people. Because it was a Western it's a Western

890
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: themed and ends up this guy's wife who the man

891
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: and got shot. She ends up killing the guy who

892
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: shot her husband started.

893
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, BG appropriate, But.

894
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 4: I mean we're talking about cong grease, so everything's appropriate.

895
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: Now it's a fair game.

896
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: After that, Yeah, I have a lot. Yeah. I wrote

897
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: one the day after Christmas, coming from an old cabin.

898
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: I seen you a picture of it coming from an

899
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: old cabin. The story to that? Can I tell that

900
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: right now?

901
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: Sure?

902
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: The story to this cabin. It's on National Forest.

903
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: So he sent me a picture of an old log cabin.

904
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was built in like nineteen eighteen, all right,

905
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 4: so that's over one hundred years ago. I was riding

906
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: mules and I found it. I was like, what the

907
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: heck is that? I've just seen the roof of it?

908
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: Found it, walked up there and I was like, I

909
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: don't know what this is. But automatically I start thinking moonshine.

910
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's on for service right Arkansas Mountains. It's moonshine.

911
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: Gotta be, can't not be. So I go to thinking

912
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: about moonshine. And this was a long This was last

913
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: winter that I found it, and I've been thinking about it.

914
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: Ever since. And Dalton Hill, a buddy of mine in Glenwood,

915
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: he told me because I told him about it. I

916
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: was like, have you ever seen that? Because he lives

917
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 4: over there pretty close. I was like, if you've seen

918
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: this cabin? He said, uh, yeah, it's got a crazy

919
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: story behind it. I was like, what is it?

920
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: He said it with someone there named Rio Grant.

921
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and his wife.

922
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 9: No.

923
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: He said that a man come out there with his

924
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: daughter and was building that cabin. And this ain't no light.

925
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: It's bigger than this place we're sitting in right now.

926
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: And you know, ten by ten, it's like a twenty

927
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: five by twenty. It's a big cabin and a man

928
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 4: and his daughter out there and he was building that

929
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: cabin for them to live. And this is from Glenwood.

930
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: Being nineteen eighteen, it would take an hour and a

931
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: half to get to Glenwood by wagon or mule or whatever.

932
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: So Penn Zeus was driving the Yeah, if it was

933
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: my dad, it would take like three hours. If as

934
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: a chuck wagon guy, it'd be like fifteen minutes. But

935
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: there go, his daughter was playing around and she ended

936
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: up getting rattlesnake bit, so he picks her up and

937
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: takes her to the nearest doctor wherever that may be

938
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighteen and never show back up. So the government,

939
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 4: I guess, took the land and they haven't done anything

940
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: with the cabin. It's just but if you get on

941
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 4: on X you can see like an eighty that is

942
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: thinner than the rest of the forest. It's pretty sweet.

943
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 2: Huh.

944
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: But I got to think about moonshine and I have

945
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: been thinking about rattles. Yeah, And I was over there

946
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: this last the day after Christmas, and I was like, man,

947
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: and I started writing a song and by the time

948
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: I was home, which took fifteen minutes, the song was written.

949
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: Oh really, Yeah, I think like you know they got

950
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: you got that audio book coming out yes this week?

951
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's right.

952
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: I haven't heard about that, and uh.

953
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: And so but for a guy to write, for a

954
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: guy to write.

955
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: A story like they've written, yeah, it's it's the same thing.

956
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure you probably woke up to paragraphs that you

957
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: needed to add, right.

958
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: It's I not on that deal particularly, but yes, one

959
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Just when you're writing in general, yeah, you

960
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: kind of have moments of clarity that you try to

961
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: capture because they escape quickly.

962
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: They can.

963
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: So when you guys, both of you, when you thoroughly

964
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: wake up, like you woke up at one o'clock in

965
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: the morning and wrote this song down and then you

966
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: wake up at six, Yeah, is it just a mess

967
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: or is it really really there?

968
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 4: I've thrown a lot of stuff over my shoulder, really yeah.

969
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: Just I think storytelling and songwriting kind of yeah, parallel

970
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: each other in a lot of ways, because a good

971
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: song is a story.

972
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: It's just a story.

973
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: I've learned that you have to capture stuff quickly. Sometimes

974
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: I write notes on my phone, like when I'm talking

975
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: to Misty about stuff and I have to tell her, hey,

976
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: I'm not texting, I'm writing stuff because to me, it's

977
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: the junctures of connection between two things. Because inside the

978
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: kind of writing that I'm doing for different things, you

979
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: have actual data that you're not creating. Like if you're

980
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: talking about history, you've got some data, yeah, but then

981
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: you have this other piece of data that might be

982
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: And sometimes the uniqueness comes in how two things are connected,

983
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: or how you would bridge from this thing to this thing,

984
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: or it might be the events in someone's life. You

985
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: tell a story and get from here to hear my

986
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: most of my creative moments that I have to capture

987
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: come in.

988
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: Ah, that's the connection.

989
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: And then but but and you kind of think that

990
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to remember it and you're not.

991
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: And so maybe it's maybe it's my age, but.

992
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 5: No, I think I think what you're.

993
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: I have to do the same thing. And I'm how

994
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: many years young?

995
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: I would think that the listeners of bear grease because

996
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: they're all fans of how you're telling the story. Yeah,

997
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: I think that the listeners because the way that you

998
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: put words together are different than anybody else in podcasting

999
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: as far as I know.

1000
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: That's the difference between me and him, is like he's

1001
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: good at telling stories and sounding good and using big words.

1002
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: I'm pretty good at putting it in a song because

1003
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: I can't talk very good. So it's like he's good

1004
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: at storytelling. I'm good songwriting, which is a story.

1005
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: But it's hey, I've bought what you're tracking on there

1006
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: about songwriting and writing and be the same. I told

1007
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: I've said this to Missy before. If I could sing

1008
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: probably probably as good as Hayden. If I could sing

1009
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: as good as good as Hayden, there wouldn't be a

1010
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: Bargerags podcast. I would be a musician, can see no

1011
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: because because the desire to storytell in music is kind

1012
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: of the it's kind of there's a link there.

1013
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: I might play the moonshine and song. It's called Montgomery,

1014
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: It's called Montgomery County Shine No way, you bet I

1015
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 4: live in Montgomery County. By the way, I want to hear.

1016
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm in on listening to it. Well, it's

1017
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: let's hear it. Now's the time, now's the time. Yeah, yeah,

1018
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: I'll brag on clay while you're getting that get fiddle out.

1019
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you what we we we're gonna have.

1020
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 5: To second, we're gonna have to take.

1021
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: A full, full time out though. So this you just

1022
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: wrote this, This the first time you've sang it.

1023
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: I've sung it just to myself, to your and my

1024
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: wife in your head. Well, I had to come kid

1025
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: with in my head. Yes.

1026
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Also, I can't wait on the home authentic.

1027
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: On the way home, it was nothing but in my head. Yeah,

1028
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: I didn't have a guitar. I was driving that old

1029
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 4: Dodge pickup.

1030
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: Coming home from this this old cabin.

1031
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you ready for it?

1032
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it first time ever been ever

1033
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: been played publicly.

1034
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 10: There's an old band in cabin on the section line.

1035
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 10: They used to run it out New Moonshine until he

1036
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 10: shot him down, shot him from behind, old fool, that

1037
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 10: Montgomery County shine like it. We can't grow crops on

1038
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 10: the ridge lines, hendryin over, you can't make it.

1039
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: Don it's alllady knew Pappy.

1040
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 10: Passed it down the line, all fool, that Montgomery County shine.

1041
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 10: He they're gonna find you good, not today, by my

1042
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 10: all fool, that Montgomery County Shine.

1043
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: I like it.

1044
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 10: Willer of a little man went searching high, but Grandpappy

1045
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 10: left like a fox's sly hand. Ten year old me,

1046
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 10: I wouldn't catch a NiFe running that Montgomery County shine.

1047
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 10: Found us one d I held my hands up high.

1048
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 10: I washed it all go down. I watched my pappy die,

1049
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 10: And twenty years later, I'm on the outside, I'm still

1050
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 10: running that old Montgomery County shine.

1051
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 9: Oo Hey, hey, they're gonna catch you, but not d o.

1052
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 10: My all fool that but Montgomery County Shine. I was

1053
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 10: running that Montgomery County Shine. I'm running that Montgomery County Shine.

1054
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead. Ride.

1055
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: That's probably the best uh real close, but probably the

1056
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 3: best song ever sang on The Render.

1057
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: Yes, no doubt, I love it, man.

1058
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: I can guarantee it's the best song on the twenty

1059
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: twenty four models so far.

1060
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: That's great, Many, it really was.

1061
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: See my voice has changed quite a lot that my

1062
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: style in the last two years.

1063
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: Really riding mules will do that to him?

1064
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: Man, it does, Yeah, but it does.

1065
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: Here stud man, that's great. That was great. That was great.

1066
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: Don't you think Bears should pick up a guitar and

1067
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: learn to play like you should?

1068
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: This one?

1069
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: I think he looks like a real natural with it.

1070
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I caught him the other day strumming on a guitar.

1071
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 4: Hey, Timm, girl's played that one?

1072
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh nice?

1073
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1074
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: No, that okay.

1075
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: Now I gotta bring this up because this so we're

1076
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: typically on the Render, we're talking about the episode that

1077
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: just came out, and here we are an hour in end.

1078
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: We haven't even talked about it. Montgomery kind of shine though.

1079
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: Lou Dell and Charlie Edwards one of our one of

1080
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: our most listened to series, Genuine Outlaws series Louisdale in

1081
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties, I think ninety two or ninety one

1082
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: got arrested for making moonshine.

1083
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: It happens in the.

1084
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah you have that on the Big Jobs. He

1085
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: got arrested for making moonshine right on the border of Montgomery.

1086
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 4: County, like the polk side of it.

1087
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like for real, like those watch yeah anyway,

1088
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: Montgomery County Shine and then think about Loudlle and Charlie EVAs.

1089
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: But like my okay, I gotta say it though, because

1090
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: we've been talking about moonshine.

1091
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: My buddy T. L.

1092
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: Jones, East Tennessee, who was Barry Tarlton's grandson. If you

1093
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: remember we did the thing about the plot hunt, the

1094
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: plot Hound sheriff in East Tennessee.

1095
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: T L. Jones, he kind of frowns on me against it.

1096
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: Well, he just says, we treat moonshine way too lax,

1097
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, like back in back in the days, like

1098
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: these were things that wrecked communities, just.

1099
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: Like the song County Shine.

1100
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he got killed.

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00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so TL, you were right, he got shut in

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: the back. Oh wow. Yeah the first line right there.

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00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, that was a good it's a good story.

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: I like it, appreciate it.

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: Cool man.

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Speaker 2: So the last Bear Grease will be the last time

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00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: in the foreseeable future that we do a classic. Okay, yeah, man,

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00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. Well, we could have spent this whole

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00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: time talking about the Daniel Boone series. That I said

1110
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: it in the intro to the rerun of this classic

1111
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: that when I made that first Daniel Boone episode, I

1112
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: did not think people would like it, Joe. It was

1113
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: too it was too compared to what I had done,

1114
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: and it was early. It was like episode maybe it

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: was episode fourteen or something.

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00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: It was a lot of history, yeah, but told in

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: a way that common folks like myself could sit there

1118
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: and and man, you're doing play by play on these

1119
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 3: things like you're having Since it's just your voice, you're

1120
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: having to build the picture of what I'm listening to,

1121
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: and and you sell it well in that.

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 4: It takes a lot of talent to build up a

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00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: story like that, I mean, because it's hard to do

1124
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: tell a story to where you're like, what's what's going on?

1125
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: When I kind of just giving a little peek behind

1126
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: the curtain, made the decision I was going to do

1127
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: a podcast on Daniel Boone, and so I start, you know,

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00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: reading everything about Boone, I go. I didn't even know

1129
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: Robert Morgan was alive, to be honest to it did

1130
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: Robert Morgan wrote me and Steve Vanella's favorite rendition of

1131
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: a Boone biography called Boone by Robert Morgan. I didn't

1132
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: even know if Robert Morgan was alive. And I get

1133
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: on get on the website or get on the internet,

1134
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: and I find him and he lives in New York

1135
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: and he's a he's a former corn nail professor. And

1136
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: I contact him via email and he's just like come

1137
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: to my house. And and at that time too, in

1138
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: the bear Grease world, I had never really traveled a

1139
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: whole lot and for just a one shot deal. And

1140
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: I remember calling my overseer at Meat Eater at that

1141
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: time and was like, Hey, dude, is it okay if

1142
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: I go to New York for like a two hour

1143
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: interview and then just like come home.

1144
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: It's cheaper than a moose tag?

1145
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and and and my overseer wasn't Steve Vanella,

1146
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: it was it was somebody else, good, great person, and

1147
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: they were like, go for it, man, heck yeah. And

1148
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: so I just think it like now I do that

1149
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: all the time. I've done that now for three years,

1150
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: Like we worked pretty hard to get interviews with people,

1151
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: but at that time it was like we were all

1152
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: like testing the boundaries, because always inside of anything, it's

1153
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: like how much energy and effort do you have to

1154
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: put towards something and is it going to be well received?

1155
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: And so I interviewed Boone and then I interviewed Steve Ranella,

1156
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: and I put these two guys together, and it was

1157
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: so much detail, and I got done with an hour

1158
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: long podcast and I'd done like hardly any of Boone's life, right,

1159
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, shoot, I'm gon have to make

1160
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: this two episodes? Yeah, And then I do two and

1161
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: it's like, heck, can I have to make it three?

1162
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: And I remember thinking are people going to be bored

1163
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: with this?

1164
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Are people gonna.

1165
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: And and it ends up. I mean the short version

1166
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: is is that ended up being best well and a

1167
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 2: template for the future of what Bear Grease would would

1168
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: would be would be kind of a history podcast in

1169
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: some ways, not always, but.

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: I recall the anxiety of just waiting, like for part two, right,

1171
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: I mean, really, I think most of the listeners and

1172
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: I speak to everybody as a listener of the show,

1173
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 3: I think we just looked forward to to build up.

1174
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 3: There's not like a real big teaser at the end,

1175
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: like in a corny movie or something, but there's enough

1176
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 3: of a teaser to say and on next week's show,

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01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna go through this, and so it keeps it

1178
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 3: keeps the listeners going.

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01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: You've had a lot of series like that.

1180
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I we learned that we can do

1181
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: series and you have to. I mean, you just can't

1182
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: accomplish a big section of history in a fifty minute

1183
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: podcast or an hour long podcast. But boone was it.

1184
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: That was neat. It was good.

1185
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: But to give a teaser, what's coming Poachers? I like

1186
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: the Poacher stories.

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01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 5: It is it's interesting.

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01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: I like the Poacher stories, every one of them, from

1189
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: the game ording side to the outlaw side.

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna give it away, but we have

1191
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: yet to hear this story from this angle before untold story.

1192
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm told.

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01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: It's it's it's really unique.

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01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you better, you better not talk.

1195
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Clay is the worst about giving away you think so,

1196
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 6: uh Like, I don't think he can surprise me.

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 5: I don't know that he actually just wait, miss one

1198
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 5: time he has one time he has.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna surprise you when he puts a big old

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01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: kiss on you with some.

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01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 5: Congres dB it's not interested.

1202
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: Huh. And the book the audiobook.

1203
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, So if you're listening to this podcast that

1204
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: that comes out, I believe the date is January the fourth,

1205
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: Happy twenty twenty four.

1206
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: Yep, and uh.

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: The audiobook will be released on January the ninth. And uh,

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: The Long Hunters media to American history, The Long Hunters,

1209
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: and it's uh. I think it's about six hours long,

1210
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: and it'll be it's it's uh. I'm really excited about it.

1211
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: You'll know more about the Long Hunters than anybody on

1212
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: planet Earth other than the people that listened to it

1213
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: before you.

1214
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: So, and Long Hunters was just the distance and the time.

1215
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: Well, it was it was a It was a name

1216
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: that was given to a style of market hunting. And

1217
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: and the reason the only rea we don't even really

1218
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: know where it came from. We just know when it

1219
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: showed up in the literature.

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: Some guy probably woke up in the middle of the

1221
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: night like he was going to name a mule.

1222
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it said Long No, it's it's assumed from the

1223
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: context of where it was written.

1224
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like a poet that wrote it.

1225
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: It was it was somebody say it was a It

1226
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: was a historical person during that time that referred to

1227
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: the long hunters.

1228
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: And the long hunters were packs. It wasn't like an individual.

1229
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: Right, or a long hunter could be an individual. But

1230
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: it had to do with they went on big extent,

1231
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: did market hunting trips the campaign, Yeah, they would like

1232
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: in Boone's historic two year trip into Kentucky was kind

1233
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: of the iconic definer of the of the long hunters

1234
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: because it was a long hunt, right, But it's all

1235
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: about the deer skin trade. So the market hunters were

1236
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: heavily involved in the deer skin trade. They weren't trophy hunters.

1237
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: They weren't hunting because they thought it was fun. These

1238
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: guys were destitute and we're trying to find a way

1239
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: to make a living. And you could go into the

1240
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: you could go you could trespass into areas you shouldn't

1241
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: have supposed to have been legally, like people in the

1242
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: colonies were not allowed to go beyond the Appalachian Mountains.

1243
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: And I mean Boone and those guys, they trespassed into

1244
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: Kentucky and could basically make a solid year's income in

1245
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: three to four months of trapping or deer hunting and

1246
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: then bring those hides back into the colonies and sell them.

1247
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: And so I mean, just like today, if you could

1248
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: go Hayden make eighty grand in three months, I mean

1249
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: you'd probably there's probably especially if the option, your prior

1250
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: option was to make twenty grand. Yeah, working ten hours

1251
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: a day, Yeah, you'd probably do.

1252
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised at what you might do. Yeah.

1253
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: And so.

1254
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: We go into we go into the deer skin, like

1255
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 2: who was buying deer skins? And they were all going

1256
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: to Europe and there was a there was a it

1257
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: was a fashion trend, it was a functional trend. Deer

1258
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: skin at that time was basically the denim of today.

1259
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: So is it like rough out leather? Is that what

1260
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: they were?

1261
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: It would have been smooth buckskin leather like the tan

1262
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: deer skin leather gloves, which would have a rough outside,

1263
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: just like a leather. Today it's got a smooth side

1264
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 2: and it's got a rough.

1265
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 4: You think you'd want the rough out out? Yeah, on

1266
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 4: pants unless you're wearing buffalo brief. I may.

1267
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 5: And if you can, I say something about how the.

1268
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you get how do you get

1269
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: on Audible?

1270
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 5: So it's an app.

1271
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 6: The first thing you want to do is it's an

1272
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 6: app that you download, so you you you go to

1273
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 6: your app store on whatever phone you have and you

1274
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 6: download it. You can create an Audible account with your

1275
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 6: Amazon account. So if you have an Amazon account, use

1276
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 6: that to create your profile, because that's the second thing

1277
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 6: you're going to have to do. And and then you

1278
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 6: have to pick your Amazon plan.

1279
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: And oh wow, that's as complicated it is.

1280
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 5: It's a little bit complicated for people.

1281
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: It is more complicated. Listen to a podcast.

1282
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 6: It is more complicated, but it's let me just say,

1283
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 6: it's not as hard as you might think. So I've

1284
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 6: seen a couple of comments, I'm a dinosaur. I don't

1285
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 6: know how to do this.

1286
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 5: That's right, doctor, it's it's it's you got this. You

1287
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 5: got this.

1288
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 6: Download the Audible app. Creat an account. If you have

1289
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 6: an Amazon account, you can already you can just use

1290
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 6: that account. And number three, number three, you pick a

1291
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 6: plan or and and you've got several options and you'll

1292
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 6: get The way it works on my account is I

1293
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 6: get credits and I can use those credits.

1294
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: You have a plan, you can get so many books

1295
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: on tape.

1296
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 5: And let me tell you some unlimited.

1297
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: I enjoy listening to audiobooks when I'm on long trips

1298
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: because a podcast on an eight or nine hour trip

1299
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, just goes by pretty quick. But

1300
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: you put on a book and you can listen to it,

1301
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: and you can listen to it however you want. But

1302
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: some people have been like, when do you have time

1303
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: to listen to an eight hour audio book? And it's like, well,

1304
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't just like sit in my office and like

1305
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 2: listen to an audio book. You know what I mean.

1306
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 6: You can do it when you work in the garden.

1307
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 6: You can do it, when you write a mule. You

1308
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 6: can do it on a road trip.

1309
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm literally of having ear pods in when I'm writing

1310
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: a mual.

1311
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you bet you canting mule.

1312
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 6: But you can do it when you're You can it

1313
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 6: as you're dry. I'm just trying to help you out here.

1314
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 5: You can. You can do it on your commute tone

1315
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 5: from work.

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: I do it in my in laws. You do Joe Joe,

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: and you're just setting over.

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: You call your mother in law gal.

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 3: There's a there's old gals in the family. There are,

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01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: and it's in in in my line of work. That's

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: a that's a sign of love, endearment, that is Yeah.

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01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 4: He's called my mom woman for thirty six years now woman,

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: my woman, that's what he calls my woman. That's just

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01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 4: what it is.

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: It's another song.

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 4: That's it's a love, it's a it's ago. It's not disrespectful.

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 4: It's just a no, no, not.

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Joe's sir, what do you want to tell us? Like,

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01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: we're closing down here, closing, closing thoughts, tell us, tell

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01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: us what you want to tell us. I usually start

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01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: the podcast when Joe's on and just go, Welcome to

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01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: the Burger's Podcast.

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: Joe take it away.

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of what we were playing what I'm

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 5: doing now.

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: But this week we are closing down so I can

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: talk a bit.

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: September seventh, twenty twenty four, we're bringing back the Squirrel Cookoff.

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01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be at the same September seventh. That's a

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: good day, September seventh.

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01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: I arranged it, tried to get it in there amongst

1343
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 3: all the hunting seasons and everything so no one would complain.

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01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: Hunters are a lot like beef papers, you know, they'll

1345
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 3: complain a bunch by stuff.

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like.

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01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: Two people go till Hunting and you're a fool for

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: having Squirrel Cookoff on the same day as Till Season.

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: So we've got that. Good job, Joe Man.

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: I would tell people that, you know, listening to your

1351
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 3: show is an educational deal. It doesn't have any boundaries

1352
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 3: of age or anything like that. I meet more people

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01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: who have young kids eight nine years old who enjoy

1354
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: listening to the Bear Grease both shows for.

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01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: All three shows. This Country Life, Yeah.

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: This Country Life solid right. If you want something that's

1357
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 3: completely different, I've got a podcast I wonder It's called

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: Cooking Up a Story with Aaron and Joe's and uh,

1359
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 3: we we have a new show come out every week.

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: We don't typically do parts. We'll go three hours if

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01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: we got to. Yeah, and uh we.

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 3: Talk to common people and hear stories from struggle to success.

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 3: And in my free time, I'm going to start listening

1365
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: to Hayden's music. You then, yeah, heck yeah what it

1366
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: sings like a bird?

1367
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Awesome?

1368
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 4: Got awesor being choked by a bobcat.

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 5: He's saying like a bird, Joe this.

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 6: We've had a pretty active holiday season as a family,

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01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 6: and we've got some squirrels in the fridge. And Clay's mom, Judy,

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01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 6: had a little tradition of making egg rolls around New

1374
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 6: Year's Day every year on their on their break, and

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 6: we kind of adopted that.

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01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: Because her egg rolls are rolls are good.

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01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 6: That's well, we're gonna try We're gonna we're getting ready

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01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 6: to try it.

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 5: And uh.

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 6: Something something that I think everyone should know is that

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 6: Bear bought himself a pan this week that I am

1382
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 6: not allowed to use.

1383
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: Oh really, did you really?

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01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 3: Ye?

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 8: You've been kind of quiet over there, but she always

1386
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 8: gets mad at me for boiling deer skulls and stuff

1387
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 8: in your pants in my house. I feel like that's

1388
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 8: a completely reasonable thing to do. So you about your

1389
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 8: own pants, So I about my own pan. I haven't

1390
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 8: heard about this cook over like a fire out of

1391
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 8: the sun.

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 6: The first thing you did when you walked in, I said,

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 6: how is your trip? He said, good, I bought a

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 6: pan and you can't use it.

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: Wow?

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: Did you get you skillet?

1397
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: Or it's just like a skillet pretty much, just like

1398
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: a cheap skillet.

1399
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like ten dollars.

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 5: I think it's a.

1401
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 6: Big move though it's his first pan, it's his first

1402
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 6: personal bear.

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make you promise next time I come up here,

1404
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: I won't bring you I won't bring you a couple

1405
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: good ones.

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: He'll do it too, he will.

1407
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: I'll bring you a couple of good ones.

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: I think, Hey, you know what we ought to do

1409
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: on a podcast, some stuff, live, cook something.

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01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 5: Joe's got to be there for that.

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01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he would do it. He's a man. Yeah, no,

1412
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: I you could.

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: Just be talking to us Joe. So what Joe. What

1414
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: we didn't say about Joe, which people would know, is

1415
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: that he's a well he's he did say it. He's

1416
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: a barbecue expert, cooks cooked for thousands and thousands.

1417
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 5: Or at least he's a cel pham filter expert.

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01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah I could, I could photo shop. But yeah know

1419
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: we fed, uh we fed over forty five thousand people

1420
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 3: real by a steak across the country, you know, and

1421
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: and so we do.

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: We do a lot of cooking.

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01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 3: And uh, I just think that if you're out hunting fishing,

1424
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 3: learning how to cook it cook because one of the

1425
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 3: flaws and being a hunter and a fisherman is people

1426
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: will tell you there's trash fish or there's trash ducks.

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01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer we can make anything taste right

1428
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: and people can.

1429
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: Eat it, and you cook it right.

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01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 3: It just takes a little bit of time and uh,

1431
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 3: a little bit of effort, maybe some decent seasoning, and

1432
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: you can turn Man. I've cooked porcupines, I've cooked moose heads.

1433
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: I've cooked everything that you can cook. If it's in

1434
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: the state of Arkansas, I've probably cooked it. And as

1435
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: a young guy listening to Bears stories, hanging out on

1436
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 3: the creek and doing weird stuff with his clothes and

1437
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: all of that, the next the next trip, the next

1438
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: step is making it taste good.

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01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: And hey, we.

1440
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: Need we're gonna do it. I think we need to

1441
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: figure out how the logistics of it. But so thanks

1442
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: for coming Joe, appreciate it, Doctor nukemb thank you for

1443
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: being here. Bear, thank you for being here. Hayden, thanks

1444
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: for coming up.

1445
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 4: Man, glad to be it.

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01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: It was really great, really loved the song. Where can

1447
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: people find all your stuff?

1448
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 4: Anywhere? You can find anything? Yeaple, Spotify, Pandora. It's okay there, Okay, now,

1449
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 4: I mean Montgomery County Shine isn't out there yet. Yeah,

1450
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 4: it might, it might be.

1451
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: It might be.

1452
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 3: It's out now, it's actually on the Cooking Up the

1453
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 3: Story Facebook page.

1454
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 5: Well it probably is.

1455
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: Now, come on, and I'll be selling the rights to it.

1456
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll sign the copies.

1457
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Happy New Year to everybody. I can't wait

1458
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: for you to hear the next.

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 6: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be a good year

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: All right, guys,