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Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups, histories really

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Speaker 1: with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn

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Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, welcome

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Speaker 1: then when you're here with Noel red Don Brown, which means,

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Speaker 1: respond to listener request because again, the best ideas come from, uh,

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Speaker 1: you guys out there, and that's where this one came from.

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Speaker 1: We got lots of people on Facebook, on Twitter, everywhere.

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Speaker 1: YouTube guys gotta cover jade Helen more specifically jade Helm fifteen.

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Speaker 1: We received a lot of questions about this, and of

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Speaker 1: course we looked into it. We have a video that

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Speaker 1: They're taking place in five. Were I to guess one

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Speaker 1: now we slap problems fitting human decisions into those sorts

428
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Speaker 1: of boxes. We've made a lot of great strides, like

429
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: with game theory and stuff, but we're still kind of guessing.

430
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: And there's another type of military exercise too. Oh yeah,

431
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: there's a joint exercise. And this is when two separate

432
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: militaries or perhaps separate agencies work together and they conduct

433
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: an exercise together. Like let's say the US and the

434
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Republic of Korea come together, that's South Korea and they

435
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: do an exercise off the coast, and then North Korea

436
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: is like, what are you doing? China as well, probably

437
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: China is not especially wild about having about the US

438
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: pivot toward Asia. Okay, so we've got those three types.

439
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: We've got joint exercise, simulation in a field exercise. The

440
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: reasoning here and there's another time where we have to

441
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: use the word official reason here is that this serves

442
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: several purposes. We test equipment right, and we perform maintenance

443
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: if necessary. So our fifteens or f thirty fives or

444
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: are abrams in one's don't just crumble into crock pot

445
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: shards in the middle of an actual war soldier training.

446
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: What what are these guys gonna do when when they're

447
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: actually in the field. Uh, The idea of these game

448
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: planning in these scenarios is that you can maximize effectiveness

449
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: while hopefully minimizing casualty or the cost of war, just

450
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: in terms of material because I can't be wasting those

451
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: million dollar missiles. Oh yeah, and there was a oh man,

452
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember this. But but if you're if

453
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: you're interested in this kind of stuff about military actions abroad,

454
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: this is such a sidebar, Matt, and I'm sorry, but

455
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: a long time ago, on one of our other house

456
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: to work shows, car stuff the Scott My Coast on

457
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: that show, and I looked at this military plan to

458
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: make jet fuel from seawater. I feel like, yeah, yeah,

459
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: it popped up on the net awhile back, and we're

460
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: reading into it, this this concept, and while we were

461
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: reading into it, we learned about the supply chains required

462
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: to sustain vehicles in foreign spheres, Like the cost per

463
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: gallon of gas is, uh, think of a number ladies

464
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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, and let me assure you it's higher than

465
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: that per per gallon because you have to you have

466
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Speaker 1: to also factor in the cost of a tanker to

467
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Speaker 1: transport that or a helicopter to fly it out to

468
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: an inhospitable region somewhere in Eurasia or something so there

469
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: there really is not just like I want to make

470
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Speaker 1: sure people understand, it's not just planning to save blood

471
00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: and treasure. It's planning to not go broke in the process. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

472
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: trying to maximize efficiency in all of these different things, right,

473
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: which sounds great on paper, and that's why it's the

474
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: official reasoning along with like let's learn how to work

475
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: better with other agencies or other governments, you know, but

476
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: there is a another purpose, a purpose the bubbles under

477
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Speaker 1: the surface of these official declarations. Well, what's going on there? Well,

478
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: I would argue, and we've had a conversation about this

479
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: off of Mike about military exercises and how there is

480
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: generally there are a couple of things that happen, but

481
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: one of them that always happens, or a reason behind

482
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Speaker 1: a military exercise is posturing of some sort political maneuvering,

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Speaker 1: some kind of intimidation. So your enemies or the people

484
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: who may potentially be your enemies see you flex your

485
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: muscles and you know, just kind of saying, hey, look out,

486
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Speaker 1: this is what we can do. And you see this

487
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: in countries across the world. This is by no means

488
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: the US only thing. Um. And we see this with

489
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Iran and the US staging war games across the strait

490
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: of war moves because of how important that piece of uh, well,

491
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: water and land is, right, Yeah, it's the choke point

492
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: for a big part of the world's oil supply, hugely important,

493
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: and you just have people staging war games right next

494
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Speaker 1: to it, just to go, hey look over here. Yeah,

495
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: and Iran still won't play games with the central banks,

496
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: so that situation is probably not can be resolved very soon. Ben, what,

497
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: that's a whole another dark territory. Now it's okay, you're

498
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Well, okay, but that's that's a really great

499
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: point that because we do see that, uh, we do

500
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: see that military exercises, just in the timing and the

501
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: location often seem to be acts of political maneuvering or

502
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: as you said in intimidation posturing, you can also see

503
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: these exercises as some type of alibi for moving assets

504
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: across the globe. So, um, just let's say Russia and

505
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: China they are moving their assets to the Mediterranean for

506
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: this joint exercise, and now they've got troops and they've

507
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: got ships, they're just hanging out that are ready to

508
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: go for an exercise though, been right, Yeah, not not

509
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: for real. It's like adding, I'm just saying to a sentence. Yeah,

510
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we do have a couple ships in

511
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean. Uh yeah, not for real, but I'm just saying, yeah.

512
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: So so it's true. That is that is a real story.

513
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: Russia and China are strengthening their military ties and they're

514
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: conducting exercises, joint military exercises with one another in the Mediterranean.

515
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: This is sticky because China recently acquired its first quote

516
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: unquote aircraft carrier. So it's not it's it's a retrofitted

517
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Russian one, right, and the reverse engineer added some some

518
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: domestic technology, and now they are coming what's called the

519
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Blue Water Navy, or they have been already. So so

520
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: this could be of concern, especially with if you want

521
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: to look at the long con especially with um, the

522
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: navigable waterways opening up in the North Pole. Oh wow,

523
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: so you can just yeah, Russia is all about it, man,

524
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: But let's a whole nother story about you. We're doing

525
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: so many stories, thank you. So the history of this,

526
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: the history of these exercises that you often will not

527
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: hear about in the news, but have an enormous effect

528
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Speaker 1: on the performance of militaries and the actions of nations. Uh.

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00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: These stretch back uh centuries. The modern use of military

530
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: exercises grew out of this need to study warfare and

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00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: to reenact old battles and try to learn something from them. Right, Yeah,

532
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: this was military exercises were away for um, let's say

533
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: commanders and the people in charge generals of armies to

534
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: play command and conquer before there was command and conquer.

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00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great comparison. Well, right, because

536
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: you have to see what you need to look at

537
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: the past. Let's look at this battle and what what

538
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: happened during it. What could we have changed to make

539
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: it better for for us? Were worse for them? Um,

540
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: And that's really interesting to me. And uh if also

541
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: the idea that if you train your troops and discipline

542
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: them in a way that they have seen this before,

543
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: This isn't the first time they're being even if it's

544
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: virtually shot at inside a trench or something like that,

545
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: then they're gonna respond more predictably. There you're gonna have

546
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: that muscle memory you're gonna also allow them to You're

547
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: going to allow the generals to see what kind of

548
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: maneuvers they can or you know, how me say generals,

549
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: but the commanders what kind of maneuvers they can send

550
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: down to their troops. That makes it more effective on

551
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: on all accounts, right, how to most effectively react to

552
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: your opponents maneuvers as well? Yeah, and uh so there's

553
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: this old game, this older game that some of our

554
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: military members of the audience or maybe veterans have heard

555
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: about before, and probably historians and military historians. It's uh

556
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: it's called Kraigspiel Kraigspiel k r i e G S

557
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: p i e L. This is a vented in the

558
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Speaker 1: early eighteen hundreds. You'll hear numbers from like eighteen ten

559
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: to eighteen twelve, but let's call it eighteen eleven. Uh.

560
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: And officers in the Prussian Army love this because they

561
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: were able to they were able to use dice to

562
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: stand in for the fog of war and the uncertainty,

563
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: your lack of information, and people still play this game.

564
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: There are two different ways to play it. There's one

565
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: of very strict rules. There's one that's called like the

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: free version, and people are still fans of this aim

567
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: you listeners might be familiar with it yourself, But the

568
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: point is from that we still have um war games

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Speaker 1: that are used by twenty one century modern militaries. And

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00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: there's a uh, there's an author that you should know

571
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: of called Manuel de Landa who writes extensively about war

572
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: games and has has one of our recurring characters pops

573
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: up in the history here, and that is the Rand Corporation.

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00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: They employed, the employed a fellow named von Newman who

575
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 1: was the brilliant man, the originator of game theory and

576
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: determined a lot of the way the US behaved and

577
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: the West during the Cold War. UM, so the nuclear

578
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: strategy of the US was in its in its own way,

579
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: a kind of military exercise, which is frightening when you

580
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: consider that the there were real news. Yeah, they're real nukes,

581
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: and they're sitting in a room just imagining, well, if

582
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: if the Soviet Union launches their nuclear missiles at this time,

583
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: how much time do we have to react? And just man,

584
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: that stuff is terrifying to me. That's why the old

585
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: movie war was it war game? Or war games? Is that?

586
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: Is that the name of the movie. Maybe a war games.

587
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I think four games. I can't remember if it's single

588
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: or plural, but oh man, so great. I have vivid

589
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: memories of watching them as a kid and just going cool,

590
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: vin yeah, and then what rewatching it later and just

591
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: going oh god. I mean, that's the case with a

592
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Have you ever seen some of those

593
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: creepy cartoons we watched kids? Yeah, okay, Yeah, there's a

594
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that I didn't get. It went over

595
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: my head. Um. And speaking of stuff that went over

596
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: people's heads. Uh, one thing that one thing that I

597
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: didn't register for a long time is that since the

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00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: since September eleven, two th one, there has been a

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00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: growing distrust of military exercises. And that goes back to Um,

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00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: that goes back to some of the stuff you hear

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00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: about military exercises being conducted on the day of the

602
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: World Trade Center or the World Trade Center and tragedy. Um.

603
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm not too too familiar with this stuff. Well, I

604
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: don't want to speak I cannot speak definitively to it.

605
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: But there were exercises being taking place on that day,

606
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: that morning, and they were eerily similar to what was

607
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: happening in actual world. Um. There's that. Wow. We we

608
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: can't even I can't even go into it here because

609
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: I'll just sit here in mouth off for like half

610
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: an hour. Now, we can't ask listeners to to write

611
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: in and let us know what you know about this,

612
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: that that might be the best way for us to

613
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: start exploring that. Oh that would be great. Please write

614
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: to us about the military exercises that occurred on the

615
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: morning of September right. There's another conspiratorial angle here too,

616
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: which is that nations might conduct or or inter governmental

617
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: alliances like NATO might conduct military exercises for the purpose

618
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: of war mongering, of pushing another nation to respond in

619
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: an altercation and thus starting a war. We know that

620
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: this has been attempted several times with Iran. But yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: because then you can claim, oh, well, they hit us first,

622
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: right right, And I mean, you know, I'm not in

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Speaker 1: any way saying Iran is some dudley do right amongst

624
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: nation states, because you know, let's it's not really a

625
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: secret that um multiple countries pretty much pay terrorist groups,

626
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: and Iran is no exception to that. They pay, They

627
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: pay UM, they pay several terrorist groups in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: You know, neither the United States does that too, to

629
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Speaker 1: be fair, But is it perspective? Is it a freedom fight?

630
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Speaker 1: One man's freedom fighter is another terrorist because as we said,

631
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Speaker 1: the m e K is considered a terrorist organization by

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Speaker 1: Iran but not by the United States. And Iran has

633
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: gone so far as to say that the US funds

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Speaker 1: Emmy King, right right, So, uh, yeah, it depends on

635
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Speaker 1: I guess it has on what side of the battle

636
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: you fall on. But both, make no mistake, both sides

637
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Speaker 1: of that that altercation are using the same tactics often. Uh.

638
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: The conclusion here that we come to, there's a there's

639
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: a neat little quote. Um, they just I wanted to

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Speaker 1: read here regarding Jade Helma Fellow named Barross Ramsey, executive

641
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Speaker 1: editor of the Texas Tribune, said this has become a

642
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Speaker 1: news item less because of the reaction to the military

643
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Speaker 1: being there than because of the state government's reaction to

644
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Speaker 1: that reaction. Yeah, I want, I'm I'm super hesitant sometimes

645
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Speaker 1: with um the media when it starts becoming its own story.

646
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I was talking off air to our buddy Joe McCormick ffore,

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Speaker 1: we're thinking about this earlier and when one thing that

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Speaker 1: we have not really done videos on or anything. But listeners,

649
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Speaker 1: if you are still with us and checking out the show,

650
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I'm sure you'll recognize we're about

651
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: to say there's an ongoing pedophile cover up, oh man,

652
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: reaching the top levels of the United Kingdom, and slowly

653
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Speaker 1: but surely, people are being turned over to the proletaria

654
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Speaker 1: and the quote titian and the average uh non aristocrat

655
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: um as they are dead or as they are too

656
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: mentally infirmed to have consequences for their horrific actions. Uh.

657
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Speaker 1: This leads people to say that there must be many more,

658
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: or there must be some active Uh. I think monsters

659
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: is the appropriate word. Uh, not just not being affected

660
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: by the laws, but writing the laws. They say, it

661
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: goes all the way to Parliament. I don't know, because

662
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the dossier that named all these people was lost. But

663
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Speaker 1: I bring all this up so you guys know that

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Speaker 1: we're aware of it. But also because uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: point we need to make here, which I love when

666
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Speaker 1: the BBC does this matter and you see other news

667
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Speaker 1: organizations do this too. And don't get me wrong, the

668
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: BBC has some great coverage, but something like my spider

669
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: sense always starts to go off when the story becomes

670
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Speaker 1: about reporting the story instead of about the story itself.

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Speaker 1: So if the BBC and you guys can note this too, uh,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you will hear not just on the BBC but

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Speaker 1: on other channels. May yeah, maybe scene in I definitely

674
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm specifically remembering BBC, but sure scene in as well. Um,

675
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: the thing will become like the host interviewers asking the

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Speaker 1: journalist who is reporting the story, like, so, what would

677
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: you say about the process of reporting this story? And

678
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: then it becomes about the process that of the journalists,

679
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: the professional making the story more so than the story itself.

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Speaker 1: It's a very clever, subtle kind of conversational jiu jitsu,

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Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, sure, it puts the focus on

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Speaker 1: that is interesting. It puts focus directly onto the journalist itself.

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Speaker 1: And almost it almost to me, wants to make the

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Speaker 1: act of journalism. It's putting it up a little bit

685
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: on a pedestal of saying it, look how difficult it

686
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: was to decide what to report about here and how

687
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: we went about it, and God knows we we need

688
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: to keep journalism alive. Please right, and neither you or

689
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I and and no either we're We're not a particularly

690
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Speaker 1: journalist absolutely. Well, yeah, okay, you're right, but I want

691
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Speaker 1: to be but I wholehearted least port journalism, and I

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Speaker 1: think it does. I think it is a great service

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Speaker 1: to the global community. But anyway, watch out, ye if

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Speaker 1: you want to watch, well, if you want it's true,

695
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: where would we be? Absolutely absolutely right. But if you

696
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: want to, if you want to, let us know about

697
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: deflection tactics, you've seen like that. We we also love

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Speaker 1: to hear about that. Uh So if we sum up

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Speaker 1: military exercises in general and find some scary things, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first thing is that they happen much more than

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Speaker 1: you hear about them happening. Oh yeah, much more than

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Speaker 1: you think that they happen, because they have to. Uh.

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Speaker 1: In theory, you have to be constantly training if you

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Speaker 1: want anything to improve in from a military perspective. Uh,

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00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: they have all kinds of different purposes, not just the

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Speaker 1: ones that they tell you that therefore right right, And

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Speaker 1: maybe the people running the exercises or whomever is in

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Speaker 1: charge of the official statements and they are we have

709
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: to say it, they are necessary. Uh, in there are necessary,

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Speaker 1: definitely in the minds of the people who are scheduling them,

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Speaker 1: or or what would you say, would you say waging

712
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Speaker 1: a military exercise or would you say producing a military exercise? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We are participating in yeah, and military exercise.

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Speaker 1: That's a good thing. And the most to me, the

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: most dangerous aspect of this ultimately is this, this can

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Speaker 1: degenerate into actual warfare. So imagine if imagine if um,

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Speaker 1: there's someone who is convinced that jade Helm is the

718
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Speaker 1: reckoning that we have heard so many people worn up before,

719
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Speaker 1: and that the federal government will come in jack boots

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Speaker 1: style and take over every town, every municipality in this area,

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Speaker 1: take away their guns, their right to free travel, which

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Speaker 1: is a big thing that a lot of other countries

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Speaker 1: don't have. And uh, someone being convinced of that attacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they fire first, They fire first while an exercise is happening, right,

725
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Speaker 1: and kind of like what we were talking about earlier, exactly, Yeah, exactly,

726
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Speaker 1: And and I don't know, but it's a it's a

727
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Speaker 1: it's a dangerous thing for everyone involved. I used to

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much you want to get into this,

729
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: but but I used to be familiar with UM some

730
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Speaker 1: of the companies, and these would be like private companies

731
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Speaker 1: that assist in playing war games really Louisiana. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: there will be civilians who are tasked of being role players,

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Speaker 1: so actors, um, well, definitely they could. They didn't call

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Speaker 1: them crisis. That's a company. I think that is a

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00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: private term for a general thing. Okay, but but again

736
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Speaker 1: another thing that we we have to keep hammering homes.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know what happens July fifteen

738
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Speaker 1: to September. I have not seen and this is just me, guys,

739
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: and and please email me if if you have something

740
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: that that is to the contrary. But I have not

741
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: seen anything yet that says this would be some sort

742
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: of takeover. And you know, Alex Jones over at info

743
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: wars um originally like they're they're in a fight now

744
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: about how the story was told, because now it's about

745
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: how the media reported it. And they're saying that they

746
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: never called it a government takeover or that it was

747
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: going to be an incremental thing. Um. But they they've

748
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: been under attack for that, and they're saying that the

749
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: people attacking them made a straw man and put words

750
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: in their mouths and then attack them for things they

751
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Speaker 1: didn't say. But the truth of the matter is that

752
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Speaker 1: despite the fact that I have I have not seen

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Speaker 1: any evidence that this would be some kind of world

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00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: power or Uncle Sam takeover of these seven states. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't know what will happen

756
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: on THEFT. I can say that so many military exercises

757
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: take place and have taken place, though not of this size. Uh.

758
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: And during those times, they were not treated as the

759
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: threat that Jade Helm is being treated as. So everyone

760
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: out there, if you're in a state where this is

761
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: taking place, make sure make sure you're streaming video or

762
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: posting to live leak or twittering to Ben and I

763
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: so we you know, can have an understanding of what's happening. Um,

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00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: it would it would be really I would love to

765
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: just have that kind of first person perspective. Yeah, and

766
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: let us know if you think it's absolute b S two.

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00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like I I would love to see I

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Speaker 1: would love to see firsthand accounts. Yeah, I want to

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Speaker 1: see what it looks like. Although I don't know how

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Speaker 1: closely they're going to protect the areas where the stuff

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Speaker 1: is going to take place. Um, but you know everybody's

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Speaker 1: got cell phone. So and to show you what big

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Speaker 1: fans we are of listener mail, we are going to

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Speaker 1: check some out right now, okay. So Chad e writes

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Speaker 1: to us and says, hey, Ben and Matt, I've been

776
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: listening to and watching the podcast for a long time,

777
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: not too long ago, and one of your podcasts you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the desire to someday visit the utah n s

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Speaker 1: A data center. We totally want to do that, chat okay,

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Speaker 1: Chad says. I drive past it every day on my

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Speaker 1: commute to work. I took a picture the other day.

782
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Speaker 1: This is about the closest that the general public is

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Speaker 1: able to get all five buildings seen in the picture

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Speaker 1: part of the center where all they're all very drab

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Speaker 1: cement structures. There are only two roads to access the buildings.

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Speaker 1: The first is through Camp W. G. Williams, the neighboring

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00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: military base uh and north or to the right in

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Speaker 1: the included picture. The second an access road that turns

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Speaker 1: off the main highway. It is marked as a private

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Speaker 1: drive for employees authorized personnel only. Ever since the data

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Speaker 1: center has been active, there's been a police car part

792
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Speaker 1: on or near the access road seven. It always has

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Speaker 1: its lights flashing. It's very distracting into my mind, attracts

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Speaker 1: more attention than necessary to the buildings, especially when a

795
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: little further up the access road is a full blown

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Speaker 1: security check station. Sorry, the picture isn't better quality. I

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Speaker 1: took it from the passenger seat while car pooling. There

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Speaker 1: is no whole lot to see, but there are some

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Speaker 1: little things that make you wonder when you drive past

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Speaker 1: those buildings on the hill. Hope you enjoy. Keep up

801
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 1: the good work, chat. It is a great picture, Chad.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's on my desktop right now. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think at taking pictures so along. I'm always in all

804
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Speaker 1: of someone who can do it from a moving vehicle

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Speaker 1: with what looks like, you know, relatively little time as

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Speaker 1: you're driving by. We'd absolutely love to see the data center. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we get a shot to let

808
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Speaker 1: us see it. He did. Yeah, well, let's amend that

809
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: we'd like to see inside of it. And uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I guess the police the police car makes

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Speaker 1: sense to me in case something goes and they need

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: somebody right by the road or repetition in security. That

813
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Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, it does seem like a strange use

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Speaker 1: of resources to have the lights on at all times.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, it seems like you just construct

816
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Speaker 1: a barrier there of some sort or a gait. Yeah, yeah,

817
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe you're right. I don't know who knows, who knows

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00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: a lot cheaper just to have a patrol car. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, maybe it is. Here's the question, um d

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Speaker 1: B writes to us to say, what camera do you

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Speaker 1: film on? Oh? Well, okay, dB um. We usually film

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Speaker 1: on when you're looking at the vlogs, a Sony e

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Speaker 1: X one, which is a slightly older camera that we've

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Speaker 1: had here at how stuff works for a while. It

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Speaker 1: was the first camera we ever got that records, uh

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Speaker 1: to solid state media rather than having tape. For a

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Speaker 1: long time, we used to record on these h well,

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember HDV, I think is what it

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Speaker 1: was called. There was another Sony camera that recorded to

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Speaker 1: It was almost HD what it was all interlaced. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm too inside baseball about that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But this it's the one that Ben and I use

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Speaker 1: because you can plug his microphone that Ben uses directly

834
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Speaker 1: into the camera, rather than having a separate piece of

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Speaker 1: hardware to record his audio. And uh, that's the way

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Speaker 1: we've we've been doing it for a while. Another one

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Speaker 1: we use is a It is a g H two

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Speaker 1: and sometimes a g H four and these are Loo

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Speaker 1: mix cameras and they are They're fantastic visually, but the

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Speaker 1: audio side it just makes it a little more complicated.

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Speaker 1: But also my my nickname for the original camera or

842
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: main our main go to camera is Old Faithful because

843
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: we also realized this is a little bit sneaky. But

844
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Speaker 1: we also realized that if we kept using that camera

845
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Speaker 1: and we were the only people who use that camera,

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Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have to. Um. It's way easier for

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Speaker 1: us to shoot UM at any time. Yeah. Basically I

848
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Speaker 1: can keep the camera by my side with everything, Ben,

849
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Speaker 1: and I will need to shoot guerrilla style at all times,

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Speaker 1: which makes me very happy. Alright, So thank you for

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Speaker 1: writing DV. Really appreciate it. Man. That's a. That's a.

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Speaker 1: That's a great answer to UM. All right, Sue, Well

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Speaker 1: you want to do one more sure? All right? Ben?

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Speaker 1: Here is a letter from Brian. Brian writes and says, Hi,

855
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Speaker 1: looking at Google Earth, I became curious about the river

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Speaker 1: valleys that appear to be well below the current level

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Speaker 1: of the ocean. I live in the Puget Sound area,

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Speaker 1: so the coast of Washington State peaks my curiosity. These

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Speaker 1: anomenalies occur around the world and are not specific to

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Speaker 1: my location. The question is, if mankind has always lived

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Speaker 1: close to water, then why are we looking for civilizations

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: in the wrong locations. Perhaps we ought to be looking

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Speaker 1: along prior waterways and along the prior coastlines. I'm attaching

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Speaker 1: to screenshots, which he did, and it's basically let's see, yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we go. One is unaltered and the other one

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Speaker 1: I've traced the route of the Columbia River. Go on

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Speaker 1: Google Earth and see it for yourself. To my knowledge,

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Speaker 1: this is not an issue you have covered. The rise

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Speaker 1: in ocean level might be explained by the star water

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Speaker 1: hypothesis put forth by suspicious observers on YouTube. That is

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Speaker 1: not something I am familiar with, the star water hypothesis,

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Speaker 1: But these Google Earth images are really interesting and I

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Speaker 1: love that idea that, well, what if the water levels

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Speaker 1: are very different from what we are being told ben,

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Speaker 1: and that's where civilizations used to be. The good thing

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Speaker 1: is that there is science you can look at with

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Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff that can kind of demystify

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Speaker 1: it or maybe even remystify it for you if you've

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: already thought you had the answer more questions. It is true.

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Speaker 1: It is true that we have we being the human species,

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Speaker 1: not Nold, Matt Scully and I Uh, we have in

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Speaker 1: the past found entire cities just submerged and forgotten in

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Speaker 1: the depths. And and I'm not I'm not saying like

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Speaker 1: an Atlantis thing, but i am saying that. No, I

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Speaker 1: am saying it actually happens. Though we we did a

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Speaker 1: great oh man, it's still one of my one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites that one of my favorite topics we ever

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Speaker 1: looked at, Matt was lost civilizations. You know, there's some

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Speaker 1: real strange stuff there. And one of the spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: one of the big conspiracies, if you haven't heard this

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: episode yet, let me ruin it for you. One of

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Speaker 1: the big conspiracies about UM South American cities. You always

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Speaker 1: hear about them being found in the jungle, right or

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00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: or maybe submerged somewhere. That's totally possible. There's this picking,

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Speaker 1: there's this conspiracy theory or speculation that UH governments are

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Speaker 1: either completely not in a hurried to find these lost

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Speaker 1: towns and cities, or if they know about it, they're

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Speaker 1: working to not have other people know, or to just

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Speaker 1: have these remain undiscovered because of the massive cost of

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Speaker 1: upkeep and reconstruction and protection. Uh So the city or

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Speaker 1: state or the government is going to have to pay

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Speaker 1: for all this in some way. And I don't have

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Speaker 1: any proof of that, but I thought it was so

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Speaker 1: interesting this idea that there might be a financial incentive

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Speaker 1: not to discover the history of the land. You're right, um,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, you guys, thank you for listening. Matt and

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Speaker 1: Noel and I are gonna head out. I guess Agent

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Speaker 1: Scully will just stay here. She always does. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what. I don't know what she does with her time,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna get out of here. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: back to work on a couple of top secret projects

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Speaker 1: and uh some new videos, and to make those new

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Speaker 1: videos to explore those new stories. We need your help.

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