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This Monday, 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: January twenty seventh is the seventy fifth anniversary of the 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: liberation of Auschwitz, one of the most extraordinary events of 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: our time. There's an international Day of Remembrance because Auschwitz 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: was so horrified and so difficult for people just to copperhead. 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Auschwitz itself was liberated by our allies, the Russians at 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: the end of World War Two. There were seven thousand 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: survivors of Auschwitz when it was liberated, but an estimated 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: at one point one million people died or were killed 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: at Auschwitz. These seven thousand survivors have descendants alive today 26 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: telling the story of this terrible genocide. You know, around 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: the world, many people have no idea what happened in 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Nazi Germany. They have no idea idea about the nature 29 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: of evil and what it can do to people. But 30 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: I believe on the seventy fifth anniversary of the liberation Ashwitz, 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: that this is a very important and useful time for 32 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: us to stop, take a deep breath, look evil in 33 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: the face, be reminded every time we see anti semitism 34 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: now that the time to stop it is now before 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: it grows into something that's unstoppable. As Americans, I think 36 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: we have an obligation to our fellow humans to not 37 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: have that kind of hatred. The United States was founded 38 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: by people who believed in religious liberty, and I think 39 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: that we have to uphold that belief in religious liberty, 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: and that includes protecting those who would be destroyed simply 41 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: because of their belief or simply because of their genetic background. 42 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: So I think today's a extraordinary time, and I'm particularly 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: glad that we have a very knowledgeable guest, mister Fred Zeidmann, 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: who was the Chairman emeritus of the United States Holocaust 45 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Memorial Council. The International Holocaust Remembrance Day is really important 46 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: because it doesn't just talk about the liberation of Auschwitz, 47 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: which happened on January twenty seventh, nineteen forty five, and 48 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Auschwitz was a symbol of horrible series of death camps 49 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: which were part of a methodical effort by the Nazis 50 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: to literally eliminate every person who had Jewish blood. I 51 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: think it's important to understand that behind this terrible evil 52 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: at Auschwitz was the even greater evil across all of 53 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Europe of a system which had grown up starting in 54 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: the late night eighteenth century, when anti Semitism became intellectually acceptable, 55 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and you began to get people writing and blaming everything 56 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: on the Jews. And as a result, people like Adolf 57 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: Hitler suddenly found an explanation. Only Winston Churchill understood because 58 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: he'd actually read Minkomff, which was Hitler's book describing his beliefs, 59 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: and he realized that this man was insane, but he 60 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: was insane in a serious way, and given power, would 61 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: implement his insanity. Hitler built a remarkable movement. He was 62 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: a extraordinarily powerful demogogic speaker. He was the leader de Fielder, 63 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: and the result was that people were willing to do 64 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: things because Hitler told him to do it that they 65 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: would never have gotten around to doing on their own. 66 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: And a key element of Hitler's entire belief system was 67 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: destroying the Jews. Hitler gets to power in nineteen thirty 68 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: three and immediately ordering anti Jewish economic Boycott's staging book burnings, 69 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: enacting discriminatory anti Jewish legislation. So if you were a 70 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: doctor who happened to be Jewish, you couldn't practice medicine. 71 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: If you were a lawyer who having to be Jewish, 72 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: you couldn't practice the law. The nineteen thirty five Nurnberg 73 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: Laws racially defined Jews by blood and led to really 74 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: serious effort at tracking down ah was your grandmother Jewish? 75 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: In which case you were Jewish, And so you suddenly 76 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: had a society that was amazingly paranoid, and in which 77 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Hitler organized power brilliantly, partly because he had the lessons 78 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: of Lenin and Stalin to draw on. He had the 79 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: structure of the Soviet secret police, the NKVD. The Gestapo 80 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: essentially was modeled on the Soviets, and Hitler understood that 81 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: it would work that if you terrified people on the 82 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: one hand, but also made them feel remarkably heroic about 83 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: themselves on the other that you could build emotional roller 84 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: coaster in which people would conclude that it was better 85 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: for you to go along and better for you to 86 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: do what you wanted. And the result was he had 87 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: very rapidly established a level of control. The Nazis unleashed 88 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: what became known as Crystal Knock on November ninth, nineteen 89 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: thirty eight. It was the first really clear example of 90 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: just how vicious things were going to get. People didn't 91 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: want to think about the good Germans going out here 92 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: in attacking Jews, even though they had clear visible evidence 93 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty eight that that's exactly what was starting 94 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: to happen. Now. They had developed very early a concentration 95 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: camp system, and the early concentration camps started with communists, socialists, 96 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: opponents of Hitler, people who were gay, Gypsies, people who 97 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: had some kind of childhood problem. If you were born 98 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: with autism, or if you were born with Down syndrome, 99 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: they methodically wanted to kill you. Now, this was actually 100 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: part of a Western intellectual progressive model, which was that somehow, 101 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: if we could purify us of all of these people 102 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: who were genetically inappropriate, everything would get better. And so 103 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: there was this very intense effort to create a purified Germany, 104 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: and ultimately the real focus of that became the Jews. 105 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: We have a chance. Now you're going to hear from 106 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: somebody who's devoted their life to sustaining an understanding of 107 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: the Holocaust, mister Fred Zeidmann, who was the Chairman emeritus 108 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. This is a 109 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: great opportunity on Sunday to help educate people. And I'm 110 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: really delighted that you are doing it, and I think 111 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: your background is remarkable. You got involved and became ultimately 112 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Chairman emeritus of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. How 113 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: did that happen and why did you agree to do it? 114 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I go way back with President Bush and when he 115 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: was elected president, I worked on his campaign I chaired 116 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: his Jewish Athlete effort, and he asked me what I 117 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: would like to do, and I said, there's only one 118 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: job that I loft. I'd like to be chairman of 119 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: the United States Holocaust Museum. I want to make a difference. 120 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: My entire life has been dedicated to Israel and the 121 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: preservation of the Jewish people and the security of the 122 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Jewish people. And so I got that opportunity when he 123 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: offered me a single best job I could ever have. 124 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: I really felt like it was time, as the survivor 125 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: population was dwindling, and remember that was eighteen years ago, 126 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: that it was time to shift to a non survivor. 127 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I was the first non survivor to show the museum, 128 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: and I had the most phenomenal experience I could have 129 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: ever even imagine, working with the survivors and working to 130 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: protect their legacy. And we did things like declare the 131 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: genocide of Indoar four. We recognize genocides as they were 132 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: going forward. And to me, that's what we owed our survivors. Know. 133 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: When you look at the statistics and you see the 134 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: number of people that absolutely know nothing about the Holocaust, 135 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: the numbers staggering. There's only a third of the folks 136 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: in the public school systems that have ever heard of 137 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: the Holocaust. If you look at the anti Semitism that's 138 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: starting to become much much more prevalent now, and you 139 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: look at the killing those Jews because they're Jewish today, 140 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: you realize that the job of the Holocaust Museum becomes 141 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: much much more critical and informing people about what people 142 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: can do. So, Fred, let me ask you this. If 143 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: a friend came to see you and they say, I'm 144 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: taking my family to Washington next week, why should I 145 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: take the time to go by the Holocaust Museum as 146 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: opposed to all the other things I could do. What's 147 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: the driving reason that they should go to the Holocaust Museum, 148 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: mister speaker, That's a question I answer all the time, 149 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: and I tell them that we have to know our 150 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: history because history repeats itself, and you have to see, 151 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you have to see the inhumanity of what man can 152 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: do to man. Do we ever anticipate another Holocaust? Knows? 153 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: But there's no better lesson that can be learned than 154 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: going through the United States Holocaust from All Museum. Some 155 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: of my most impactful days when I was there is 156 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: to watch these young kids who are all saying why 157 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: am I doing this? Walk into the museum, and then 158 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: at the time they walk out, these are six and 159 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,479 Speaker 1: seventh graders from the Midwest who obviously had no experience 160 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: with this. Arguably for all intention purposes. You know, this 161 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: is not only a Jewish story. I mean, this is 162 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: the story of man's inhumanity demand and it's the only 163 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: place that you can really see that. Lesson, you walk 164 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: out of there and will never forget what you saw? 165 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: How can I forget? When we first came to Auschwitz, 166 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: we were taken to an area where we were marched 167 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: to an area where they shaved our heads, were undressed 168 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: and given gray dresses, no under where, just a great 169 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: dress and wooden shoes. Then we were taken back to 170 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: these barracks. On the way to the place where they 171 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: shaved our heads into our clothing, there was a big 172 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: ditch where apparently people from the train who couldn't who 173 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: were too sick to move, were put into these ditches 174 00:11:53,720 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: with the dead living with the dead. Then later on 175 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: they took these bodies, propiled them up, and they were 176 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: just left there on a pile. Because they had no 177 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: time to bury them. They had to take care of 178 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: first other things. Anyway, our heads were shaven. We were 179 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: given this great rest and we were taking back to 180 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the barracks. 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You look at the American soldiers and you 214 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: see how they fought for democracy, and they fought for freedom, 215 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: and as they liberated the camps, it put a human 216 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: touch on what they were doing that's just unsurpassable. I 217 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: was on the World War Two Museum board in New Orleans, 218 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: and you know, every day that I walked into that museum, 219 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: the first thing you see is the picture of Dwight 220 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Eisenhower's saying to his troops, take pictures, Take every picture 221 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: you possibly can. No one will ever believe what you're 222 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: going to see. And of course, the first camp that 223 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: was liberated was a ard Driff. And at the World 224 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: War Two Museum we had a man come speak to us. 225 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Was we had veterans that could still speak come to 226 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: all of the board meetings, and we had one who 227 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: actually had liberated Ardriff. He was ninety five years old. 228 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: When it was over, I ran up to him and 229 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I said, tell me what you knew when you went 230 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: into that camp. I know what General Eisenhower said, What 231 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: were you told? And he said, we were told that 232 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: we were going to see something that none of us 233 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: would ever believe. That it was indescribable and there was 234 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: no way to truly express what we were going to 235 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: see until we got in and sought. And he said, 236 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: of course, all of us when we got there, it 237 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: was beyond anything any of us could have conceivably thought 238 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: we would ever see. One of the first ghastly sights 239 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: to meet our eyes was a group of dead on 240 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: the ground near the entrance. Now, these are part of 241 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: the sick of the old, and they could no longer 242 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: be useful to the Nazis. So they had him take 243 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: him out of the barracks and they killed before we arrived. 244 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: In a shed near by, they were more dead. They 245 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: were piled up right cordwood and over their bodies, and 246 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: between their bodies, where the sprinkling of rhyme. I could 247 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: tell you that or the strike that I shall never 248 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: forget the reaction among all of us. What's the further steamer. 249 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: I resolved to deal with these barbarians because we consider 250 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the Nazines not as humans but as devils of the fresh. 251 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: There were a number of death camps, including a number 252 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: in Germany itself. Why do you think Auschwitz became the 253 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: core symbol that ultimately worldwide, when we really think and 254 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: talk about us, we come back to Auschwitz again and again. 255 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? It was the most 256 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: intact camp. It started with the It was right in 257 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: the center of Poland. It was the largest camp, and 258 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: they had the killing camp at Birkenhell, look, there were 259 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot worse. The first camp that I ever went 260 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: to was Socks thousand, which was the first camp, and 261 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: it was in Berlin, and now it's arguably not even 262 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a suburb of Berlin, it's within greater Berlin. And I 263 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: remember going to that and you get off the train 264 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: and you walk down this little narrow path and you 265 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: see all these old folks that are still in the yard, 266 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: and you wonder what were they thinking. But at that camp, 267 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: this is before they mastermind mass killing, and they were 268 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: just the people would walk into stocks housand, they were 269 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: lined up in shot and then burnt, and you could 270 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: hear the screening and you could hear all this all 271 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: through the neighborhood, and yet nobody did anything about it. Birkenau, 272 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: of course, was the most intact camp when it was covered. 273 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I can remember my first trip there. My 274 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: first trip there was in the early seventies, and that's 275 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: before they had really cleansed the camp, for lack of 276 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: a better word, had upgraded the camp. And I can 277 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: remember going into doctor Mingela's offices and just not even 278 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: being able to conceive of what the medical experiments that 279 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: he was doing right there. But you look at what 280 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: you would considered being all time classic camp and the 281 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: entrance to the camp. Work will make you free. You're 282 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: going to a work camp, You're not going to get killed. 283 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: And then being shipped over to Birkenhow where you've got 284 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: that classic structure. If you elp Birkenhew gives you the 285 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: perfect example of where they were. They weren't there to work, 286 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: They weren't there to do anything. They were sent there 287 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: to strip, walk into the showers, go into the crematorium 288 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: and you see all of this. And again I know 289 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: you've been there. You look at those ovens and you 290 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: can't conceive that they weren't baking bread, and those ovens 291 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: they were baking human beings, and I mean they were 292 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: doing it twenty four hours a day, shovel them in 293 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: one side and shovel them out the other. And it's 294 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: so emblematic of everything there is. Auschwitz was really the 295 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: biggest camp. You know, the rail yards are right there. 296 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: You can see everything so well. Of course the Nazis 297 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: tried to destroy the camps as they were leaving them, 298 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: but they weren't able to destroy that. I mean, so 299 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: much of Eastern Europe is trying to forget that past, 300 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: and they've sanitized so many of the camps, but they 301 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: kept Auschwitz somewhat in check. I mean, you look at Ellie. 302 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: Was all the famous picture of Ellie at Auschwitz. It 303 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: was held together to be the symbol because it was 304 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: such a perfect symbol of what the Nazis did to 305 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: human beings. It's mind bodyling how these people can have 306 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: absolutely no compunction, no compassion, no moral compass. What I 307 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: found so horrifying about the Nazis was how cold they were. 308 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: They're just going about methodically wiping people out with no 309 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: sense that they're people. It's just astonishing. I mean, there's 310 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: something wrong with our society when we cannot protect people 311 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: and give them a sense of safety against threats that 312 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: clearly have to be suppressed. Look, I'm a conservative in 313 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: part because I think safety comes from having people who 314 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: are willing to stop evil. And if you're not willing 315 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: to stop evil, you're opening up the innocent to being destroyed. 316 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: It's very important when you think about the whole notion 317 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: of never again. If we mean it, then we have 318 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: to take action steps, not just emotional steps. And so 319 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: I think that's what what you're doing is really important. 320 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: But I want to give you an opportunity for a minute, 321 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: tell people from your heart what you hope coming out 322 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: of Remembrance Day, coming out of the museum, coming out 323 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: of everything you've experienced in your life, what you hope 324 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: they will take to their heart and that will lead 325 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: them to the kind of actions that will give us 326 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a better and a safer world. I think it'd be 327 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: great given all of your background and your remarkable experience. 328 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: My primary passion always from the time that I was 329 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: brought up in little farmtown in South Texas, and I'll 330 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: never forget this. I was in in nineteen forty six, 331 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: and of course all the Jews were merchants, and twice 332 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: a year they would pack coffin crates with clothes, their 333 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: stores and whatever and ship them to Israel. And one night, 334 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: about ten thirty at night, I was really tired and 335 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: I said to my father, you know, what are we 336 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: doing this far? And he said, we have to do 337 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: everything we can as a human being to preserve the 338 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: state of Israel, to preserve Judaism, deserve human rights. And 339 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: I'll never forget standing on the floor of the Knesset 340 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: making a speech and looking out that window and thinking 341 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: back to being ten years old and what I've accomplished. 342 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: We are all brought up with American values. We are 343 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: all brought up with Judeo Christian values. It is incumbent 344 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: on every one of us to go beyond ourself, to 345 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: go outside ourselves and preserve humanity. It's our job to 346 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: educate every person we possibly can. We have a special 347 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: obligation to make sure the rest of the world never 348 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: forgets Next the seventy fifth anniversary of the liberation of 349 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: Auschwitz an anti Semitism. Today, Deborah's home was stolen. I 350 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: don't mean thieves stole stuff. I mean scammers literally stole 351 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: her home. The FBI calls home title theft one of 352 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: the fastest growing white collar crimes. This story is why 353 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: you need home title lock. Debra says, criminals found the 354 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: title to our home online and filed fraudulent documents claiming 355 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: they owned her home. Wait, it gets worse. Deborah says, 356 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I was evicted from my own home and eighty five 357 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: grand inequity gone. Nobody believes you can get your home 358 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: stolen this easily. This is why you need to get 359 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: home title lock, because no insurance or bank protects your 360 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: home from title theft. First things first, go to home 361 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: titlelock dot com and register your address to see if 362 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: you're already a victim and don't know it. Then sign 363 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: up to help the legal title to your home. See 364 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: you don't end up like deborra. And to get you started, 365 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: you'll receive sixty risk free days of protection. Go to 366 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: hometitlelock dot com. That's home titlelock dot com. One of 367 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: the amazing difficulties which all of us have to confront 368 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: today because we're doing the same thing they did in 369 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: the thirties. We watch anti semitism in New York, we 370 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: watch anti semitism in Paris, we watch anti semitism in Sweden, 371 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: and we somehow shrug it off and we don't want 372 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: to come to grips with it. It's unpleasant, it's difficult. 373 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 1: It requires us to have conversations that will embarrass some 374 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: people enrage others. Well, that's what happened in the late thirties. 375 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: People didn't want to think about the good Germans going 376 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: out here in attacking Jews, even though they had clear 377 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: visible evidence in nineteen thirty eight, so that's exactly what 378 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: was starting to happen and the symbol of all of this, 379 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: of course, was outfits, and it's become the symbol to 380 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: all of us of what can happen, what man is 381 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: capable of doing to man, and we all think it 382 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: can never happen again, but they certainly didn't think it 383 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: could happen there, and it happened repeatedly. It happened in 384 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: Munsey three weeks ago, that happened to be in Boca today. 385 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: And when we flew in last night at the airport, 386 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: there were an incredible number of Orthodox Jews that were 387 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: at the airport coming in. And there's been a mass 388 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: exodus just recently of Jews after the Munsey shooting and 389 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: after the Pittsburgh shooting, the Powaway shootings, of people moving 390 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: to Florida where they feel it is much safer to 391 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: be Jewish than it is walking the streets to Brooklyn 392 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: and New York where they're being attacked daily and killed again. 393 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: And this is no different than what we went before. 394 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: Not only can it happen again if it is happening again, 395 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: and we can never let our guard down and receive 396 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: more of it. If you look at the statistics in 397 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: the last year than we ever have to protect our 398 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: community going forward. Well, listen, I really appreciate this. Thank you, 399 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. Auschwitz is something that we should always remember 400 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: because it is a reminder of the evil that is possible, 401 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: and in this case of a particular evil, the evil 402 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: of Nazi Germany, of an ideology dedicated to destroying an 403 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: entire race simply for the act of being. The very 404 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: act of living was unacceptable to Adolf Hitler and to 405 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: his Nazi followers, and they were prepared to slaughter everybody 406 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: if that's what it took in order to live out 407 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: there truly warped and evil ideology. Close to last year, 408 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: as the Ambassador of the Vatican went to Auschwitz and 409 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: participated in the International March of the Living, which is 410 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: an annual event where a particularly young people are brought 411 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: and educated and they then walk from Auschwitz to Birkenhew, 412 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: a remarkably short distance between two centers that are horrible. 413 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: I would urge anybody who is listening to this, who 414 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: has a chance to go to Poland to visit Auschwitz, 415 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: that you should do so, because you'll you'll never quite 416 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: think about the Holocaust the same you will never quite 417 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: think about the nature of evil. The same and its 418 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: reminder that it can happen again and that we have 419 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: to take seriously the notion that we will not toleraate it. 420 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, my guess, Fred Seidemann Sherman, Emeritus of the 421 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: United States Holocaust Memorial Council. You can read more about 422 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: the seventy fifth anniversary of the Liberation of Auschwitz and 423 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: anti Semitism today on our show page at newtsworld dot com. 424 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Newtsworld is produced by Westwood One. Our executive producer is 425 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Debbie Myers and our producer is Garnsey Slump. Our editor 426 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: is Robert Borowski, and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. 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