1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. This week, we're going to 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: talk about one thing on a backcountry hunt you can't 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: go without because after a few days without it, you'll die. 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: What we're talking about is water, So I'm gonna give 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: you everything you need to know on water purification and filtration. 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: For the most part, I like to think that I 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: have a pretty iron gut, but I'm going to share 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: a story of a one time my gut failed me 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and I drank from the wrong pond. If I were 14 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: to think of a place that I simultaneously love and hate, 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the first thing that comes in my mind is a 16 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: fog Knack Island. Now, fog Knack Island is off the 17 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: coast of Alaska in the Kodiak Archipelago, so it's real 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: close to Kodiak Island and it's known for giant brown bears, 19 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: miserable winds, drastic wet weather, and some really tough hunting, 20 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: especially for Roosevelt elk and blacktailed deer. Now, you might 21 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: remember a story that I told with the Meat Eater 22 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: crew a couple of years back about a brown bear 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: attack that happened on a fog Nack Island. The story 24 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell today actually transpired a few years prior 25 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: when my brother Jason and I went on our first 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: hunt on a fog Nack. Jason and I had drawn 27 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Roosevelt elk tags and we knew nothing about a fog kac. 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: We knew nothing about the elk hunt. We just decided, hey, 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: let's put in for these tags and sweet maybe we'll 30 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: draw them. Had never heard about anyone hunting it. There 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: was very little information on it at the time. We 32 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: just thought, hey, this will be a sweet adventure if 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: we draw it. Great. So we ended up getting some 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: tags and talking to some friends. We found some a 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: pilot that knew the area and was able to drop 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: us off at a lake. We get dropped off and 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: we set up our base camp right on the edge 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: of the lake. When we knew that the elk were 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: actually over in the next valley. So there's this big 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: mountain behind where we're camped, and we decided we'd have 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: to climb up and over and down to where the 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: elk are. Now, these elk are just giant behemoth animals. 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: I mean they might weigh as much as as an 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Alaska Yukon moose. They could be as much as pounds, 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: and the big mature bulls for definitely that. I was 46 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: actually just self filming the whole thing, kind of documenting it, 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and so we just thought, hey, this is gonna be 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: an awesome adventure. We had two weeks to hang out 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: on the island hunt and hopefully both come back with 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: some bulls. So the first day you get dropped off, 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: you can't hunt because you can't hunt the same day airborne. 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: So we set up our camp. We got in early 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: in the morning and decided to just go scout. We 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: climbed to the top, found a good route, made some 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: trail markers, tried to beat a trail in the best 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: we could. Got to the top glass and spotted a 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: herd of elk way out towards the ocean miles away. So, 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: if you're sweet, we know where they're at. Let's look around. 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Be awesome if we can find some closer. But if 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: we can't, well we're gonna go after those in the morning. 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: The evening comes around, we didn't see you anywhere, elks. 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: We make our way back to camp is about a 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: two thousand foot climb from the camp to the top, 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: and then you got about a two thousand foot dropped 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: down to the ocean. So shooting a big animal on 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: the other side it's gonna be a major chore now. 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Jason and I got back to camp that night, we decided, okay, 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: we can hunt tomorrow morning. Let's get up way before 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: daylight and we're gonna hike out to that point be 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: ready waiting for these elk. We start our morning early. 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good grind up to the top. I've 72 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: got my camera equipment, my hunting stuff, we got our 73 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: our backpacks, and we're ready. We get over the top, 74 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: start working our way down the other side, and we 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: start hearing bugles down in the bottom in the in 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: the valley, we spot the elk and they're pretty much 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: right where we left them, but actually further away and 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a little bit further up the hill on the other 79 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: side of the valley. So we start working our way 80 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: down and plan our stock. We stock down, We get 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: into position and we can't really see the elk, but 82 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: we can hear them. There's like a creak in the bottom, 83 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: and some cows start filing up the other side. At 84 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: first we thought there was you know, the night before 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: we only saw maybe twenty elk. Well, there's a lot 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: of elk in this hurd, maybe double that, maybe maybe 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: even sixty elk, not really sure, just a lot of 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: elk and just bulls everywhere. There must have been some 89 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: hot cows around and they were just bugling, making noise, 90 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: going crazy. So they start working up the other side. 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: Jason and I get set up. I originally wanted Jason 92 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: to shoot first, then he wanted me to shoot first. 93 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: So we just decided, all right, well we're gonna try 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: for a double if we can, but we're gonna definitely 95 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: focus on one elk at a time, especially because they're 96 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: so big and we knew we were a long ways away. 97 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: We just figured, well, if it works out and we 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: can get to and we can get them, if they're 99 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: near a tree, we can get the meat up in 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: the tree, will be fine, and we've got two weeks 101 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: to pack it out. Awesome, But what ended up happening 102 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: was the bulls kind of fed out, so we just 103 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: kind of gave up on the idea of a double one, 104 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: just focused on one bull. I was gonna shoot first 105 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: on this one, and it was a really nice six point, 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: the biggest bull in the group. We figured, hey, we're here, 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: let's shoot the best one we can and then we'll 108 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: keep hunting. We've got plenty of time. We weren't afraid 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: that Jason wouldn't get one, so kind of waiting and 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: waiting for an opportunity shot. The brush was really tall, 111 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: so we had to wait for a while. It felt 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: like forever. We actually repositioned because as the bull kind 113 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: of he just wouldn't give me a broadside shot or 114 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: a good shot I felt comfortable with. And then they 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: moved up the hill further. A couple of hundred yards 116 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: passed where I was comfortable shooting. So we moved up again, repositioned, 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: let out some calls. The bull kind of came out 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: in the open about across the canyon, stood their broadside. 119 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: I shot, and these are big animals, man, I hit 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: him good, but he just stood there. Jason was watching 121 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: through his scope. He knew that it was hit good. 122 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, shoot him again. I ended up shooting 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: the bull like two more times, all good shots, and 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the bull fell over like awesome. Now on the stock. 125 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: On the way over, we'd already seen just a giant 126 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: bore brown bear cruising around, so we're like, all right, 127 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: we need to get over there and start cutting this 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: thing up, and walked up on the elk. Man, this 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: thing was just huge. Is is one of the biggest 130 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: animals I'd ever walked up on it. It was as 131 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: big as everybody had said, as big as any moose 132 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: I'd ever walked up to. I mean, it was just 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: a giant. So we're looking looking out for that bear. 134 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: We start cutting up. One guy's cutting the other guys 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: on bare patrol bear lookout. About the time that we 136 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: get the elk cut up, the brown bear starts coming in. 137 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: So what we're doing is it took two of us 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: to kind of even work with some of the quarters. 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: They were so heavy. I don't even know what a 140 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: hind quarter would weigh, but man, it's like a hundred 141 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: and seventy pounds maybe like they were really big with 142 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: that's bone in, just really big hind quarters. But what 143 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: our plan was is, because we knew that bear was there, 144 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: we could see this bear just sniffing down wind of us. 145 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: He could smell that and he was gonna come in. 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: So Jason and I would take turns hauling meat. So 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: we'd get some meat off. One guy would keep lookout. 148 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Then we bring the meat to a tree and then 149 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: we'd hang the meat, or at least just get the 150 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: meat away from the carcass to another tree. So we 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: started ferrying meat to this tree that was maybe three 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: a hundred yards away because we figured, well, the bear 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: will go to the carcass, and we kind of had 154 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: it set up this way. Then once we got the 155 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: meat all off the carcass and removed away, then we 156 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: started hauling the meat up into the tree because we're 157 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to start ferrying this meat as far away 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: from the carcass as possible. And each station, we didn't 159 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: know how long it would take us between spots. We 160 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: had a full day's walk back to camp, plus a 161 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: giant elevation gained. Packing this thing out was going to 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: take a while, So we end up at each station. 163 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Let's say our packing plan was going to go from 164 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: point A to point B, then to point C, and 165 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: we just ferry each piece back and forth all the 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: way to camp over the course of however long it 167 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: took us. So we were estimating multiple days of this 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: and each pack being a hundred pounds or more, just 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: super heavy. So we start faring the meat. Each place 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: we stopped, we hoist the meat up into the tree, 171 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: and then we take our packs go to the next spot. 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: We tried to go about half a mile to a 173 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: mile between each point, and by this point we've put 174 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: some pretty good distance between ourselves and the bear. Now 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: there's a stream running in the bottom and some side 176 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: streams coming down everywhere. We were working pretty hard. This is. 177 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: We shot the bull in the morning. We got them 178 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: cut up. We're gonna be packing un till dark for 179 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: day one and it's probably gonna take us two or 180 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: three days to get this thing back to camp or 181 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: pretty close. So we're working pretty hard. We're sweating pretty hard. 182 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: We'd come across a creek, and in Alaska, for the 183 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: most part, a lot of the mountain hunts I do 184 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, I don't really worry about water filtration. So 185 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: this is. We did have a water filter at our 186 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: base camp because we're gonna be drinking out of a lake, 187 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: but a lot of the times I'll boil water or 188 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: I'll do whatever, you know. And on the mountain, if 189 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: I know there's no beavers or what have you, that 190 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm not too concerned about it. So Jason and I 191 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: are working hiking, filling up our water bottles the creeks. Now, 192 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: I got to one stream where I was just extremely thirsty. 193 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: I had my one analogy and I kind of forgot. 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: I drank some and then dumped it out because I 195 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: don't know why. I just didn't want to carry the 196 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: extra a little bit of weight for water weight because 197 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I've already had hundreds of pounds on my back. Makes 198 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: no sense, I know. But it's just you drink some 199 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: water out and then you just dump it out because 200 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: there's water everywhere. So it's i think between our third 201 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: drop off station, we crossed the stream and it's kind 202 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: of got this like red tinge to it. Now well whatever, 203 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's there's kind of like a little marshy 204 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: area above it. I'm just gonna grab some water from here. 205 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Jason chose not to drink from that stream. I chose 206 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: to drink from that stream. That probably was my mistake. 207 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: It was kind of silky smooth water wasn't the best 208 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: water I'd had. I kind of immediately regretted drinking that, 209 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: but I drank a whole bottles worth and we kept going. 210 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: Little be knowns to me, which I ended up finding 211 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: out later above this so called stream was a bunch 212 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: of elk wallows, so I was essentially just drinking elk 213 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: wallow water. Now, by the end of the day, we 214 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: had most of the elk up the ridge to the 215 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: ridge above camp, and we've been able to ferry the 216 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: majority of the meat down to camp. So the only 217 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: thing we had left was two hind quarters and the 218 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: antlers up at the hill above camp. We get back 219 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: to camp, we are beat. I mean, these were long days. 220 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: I think we kept packing till I don't I don't 221 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: even know, maybe one am, something like that. We're just 222 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: getting after it. Brutal, brutal day, very physically demanding. So 223 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: we get back to camp. Everything's good. We decided all right, 224 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: the meats hanging in camp, and then we had the 225 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: rest of the meat hanging in the tree above camp. 226 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: So it wasn't that far. But we figured out it's 227 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: because you're gonna hang in a tree at camp, it's 228 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: just gonna hang in the tree up above camp. It 229 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where it's at. It's hanging in the tree. 230 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: So we figured the next day we're gonna get up 231 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: and kind of relocate the herd for Jason's elk. So 232 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: we get up and we can't relocate the herd, so 233 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: we decide, well, we spend the entire day looking and 234 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: then we decide, all right, we're gonna have to maybe 235 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: move somewhere else or figure out where these animals are 236 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: because after shooting at him, we probably blew them out 237 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: of the whole area. So we're gonna have to do 238 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: try to find some different elk. So the next day 239 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: a storm hits. We just decide, hey, we're just gonna 240 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: have to hunker down. We hunted the morning, it was wet, 241 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: it was miserable, so we just decide, hey, we're gonna 242 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: have to hunker down for the rest of the day 243 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: because we can't see anything. We're just getting beat up 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: by major winds. Gale force winds are coming in. It's 245 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: not good. So this is that a few days after 246 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: shot the bull. That night, I don't know what I 247 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: got from that wallow water, but it wasn't good. We're 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: jacking gale force winds seventy mile an hour plus wins 249 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: maybe six, you know, just like constant fifty sixty mile 250 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: an hour winds gus probably up to eighty miles an hour. 251 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: It's just miserable out raining sideways. Typical CoDIAK of fog 252 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: nac weather and the curse of the wallow hits. I mean, 253 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: I am outside doing what people often called the helicopter 254 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: where you're throwing up and it's just coming out of 255 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: both ends. It was the worst experience of my life. 256 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: It's freezing cold, it's just horrible weather, and I feel 257 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: like I'm dying. Luckily, I had a good inclination of 258 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: what was going on, and I had some antibiotics that 259 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: I had prescribed just in case of emergencies. Now, whatever 260 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I got sick from, I don't know what it was 261 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: in the water or whatever, but the antibiotics probably saved 262 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: my bacon. I ended up having to pretty much spend 263 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: the next day or two in the tent, and Jason 264 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: ended up going and packing out the rest of my 265 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: elk because I was too sick and beat up to 266 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: get those last two quarters out or whatever else we 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: had hanging in the tree. So on that trip, I 268 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: made a major mistake, and I paid for the curse 269 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: of drinking wallow water. I really think that I have 270 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: pretty much the widest range of experience possible with the 271 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: backcountry purification and filtration. I've honestly tried nearly everything out there, 272 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: from doing nothing two pumps, filters, tablets, boiling like, I've 273 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: done it all, and every trip is different. So what 274 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: I really want to talk about in this podcast is 275 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: just a lot of the different methods and methodologies and 276 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: options for acquiring and cleaning water in the back country. 277 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: There's a ton of different pros and cons everything. There's 278 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: no one perfect solution and every scenario is slightly different. 279 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: But I just want to cover the basis of everything 280 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: so you understand why you might need to filter water, 281 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: and then just ways to get clean water. So let's 282 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: just start out with talking about why you need to 283 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: purify water. Now, if I'm going to be real honest, 284 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of trips that I go on where 285 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm not bringing a filter. I'm not cleaning my water 286 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: in certain mountain hunts and say backcountry Alaska, where you're 287 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: very few low animal densities, no people, no contaminants, the 288 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: water is coming straight off of a glacier filtered through 289 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the mountain. Yeah, I readily drink that water without any 290 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of filtration. Same in New Zealand, almost all the 291 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: mountain water there. I believe I've never gotten sick off 292 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: of drinking it, and I cannot think of a time 293 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: that I've actually purified it. Now that's not to say, oh, 294 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Remy said, yeah, this is the way it is, and 295 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: then you get sick and keel over it. This is 296 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: just my personal way that I do things. But the 297 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: reason that you would purify water is because bacteria protozoa's 298 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: even viruses if you're in like a real I mean 299 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: that could be in some crazy countries, just even traveling 300 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: and drinking tap water in certain countries. Just like a 301 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: lot of things to look out for in the back country, though, 302 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: the main thing you're worried about is going to be 303 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: bacteria's um and Giardia, salmonilla e. Coal I, stuff like that. 304 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Things you get from animal feces in the water, stuff 305 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: you get from beavers, and just contaminants and bacteria growing 306 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: in the water. Now, when we talk about filtration purification, 307 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people use those where it's interchangeably. And 308 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: we'll first kind of just break up what purification is 309 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: what filtration is. So filtration is something like a like 310 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: a pump, and what it does is you run the 311 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: water through a filter, and that filter is a certain 312 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: size that prevents certain sized particles from getting through. So 313 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: filtration is not the same as purification because purification kills 314 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: or prevents essentially everything, whereas filtration you're still going to 315 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: get certain things going through. They're like viruses are too 316 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: small to be filtered out. So when you use a 317 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: filter pump, you're running water through water filter, viruses get 318 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: through that, whereas purification gets rid of the viruses and 319 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: other things. Now, for most intents and purposes, when you're 320 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: in the mountains are on a hunting trip, you don't 321 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: necessarily have to worry about that. The main thing you're 322 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna worry about is the bacteria. So filtration does work 323 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: of the time for all intents and purposes. Now, purification 324 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: is kind of that next level, and that generally involves boiling. 325 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: It can involve a chemical agent like chlorine or iodine, 326 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: and that could also involve UV. So what I'm gonna 327 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: do is I'm going to break down some of the 328 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: pros and cons of every option for clean water. So 329 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: let's start with filtration. Now, I'd say, like I've used 330 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of different filters. Catadyne, I think, is some 331 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: of the ones that I've used a lot. MSR makes 332 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: some great filters filters. Let's they're mostly a pump type filter. 333 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: So what involves It involves a hose that goes into 334 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: your water source, and then another hose that goes to 335 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: your bottle or whatever, and then you just pump it. 336 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: And by pumping it, you're pulling water from the water source, 337 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you're running it through most of the time a carbon filter, 338 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: and then pouring it out in your bottle or whatever 339 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: on the other end. Now, the good thing about the 340 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: filter is when you filter water, it also affects the taste. 341 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: So it makes the water taste better. If there's a 342 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: lot of leaves or tannins like leaves sitting in stagnant water, 343 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: it create creates and leaves like tannins and it's just 344 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: real bitter flavor, other stuff like grit. There's a lot 345 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: of places you might hunt where it might be muddy 346 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: water after a rain. There might be silty water, glacier water, 347 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: that's very silty, and some of the other purification methods 348 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: might not work as well. So the filtration is great 349 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: because it helps with the taste and it kind of 350 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: removes that that siltiness some of the bad flavors. But 351 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: the downside is is it doesn't catch everything. It's not 352 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: a purification for backpacking, for hunting, for those type of things. 353 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: Filtration is generally perfectly fine. If you're worried about viruses 354 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: and other things, you're probably in some seriously bad water 355 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: sources and you're gonna wanna probably use multiple methods of 356 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: of purification and filtration anyways, because the water is gonna 357 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 1: taste terrible, so you want to filter, and then you're 358 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: gonna want to kill whatever else. You probably use some 359 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: other method, whether it's a chemical or boiling or UV whatever. Now, 360 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: the downside to the filtration is they're pretty heavy and 361 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: they're pretty cumbersome. The upside is if it's a small 362 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: stagnant water source, it's great because you don't have to 363 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: like dip your bottle into it. You can suck it 364 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: out of small pools and other stagnant water sources. It's 365 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: great for aiding and making the water taste better. So 366 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: I choose to use a filter if I'm hunting in 367 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: places that has very stagnant water, not so much flowing water, 368 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: places where there's a lot of grit in the water, 369 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: might be maybe muddy water, marshy type water, stuff that 370 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: just you wouldn't want to drink, even if if you 371 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: did a chemical or something else. You're gonna have the grit, 372 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have the weird flavor, you're gonna have all that. 373 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: So I would say a lot of places that I 374 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: use the pump type filter or prefer it are when 375 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: I'm say maybe hunting Nevada or the desert, or it 376 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: might be just getting water out of a little pond 377 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: or kind of more of a less moving water. I've 378 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: used it quite a bit in Australia as well, some 379 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: more stagnant water up in the top end. The filtration 380 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: works great because it takes out some of the sediments 381 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and the flavors. Now let's go on to some other methods. 382 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: So purification boiling water if you have no other option. 383 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: Boiling water is a great way to purify water as 384 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: long as you boil it. I always go a raging 385 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: boil for a minute. That should kill everything. If I'm 386 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: at altitude, though, I will boil it a little longer 387 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: because the water just never seems to get as hot 388 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: as it does at sea level or lower elevation. So 389 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: I kind of think around seven thousand feet or so, 390 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: I'll add a couple of minutes maybe, So maybe boil 391 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: it for three minutes if I'm above seven thousand feet, 392 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: just because it gives it a little bit more time 393 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: to kill anything in the water. Now, boiling is great 394 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: because if you can start a fire, you can purify water. 395 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: That's great. The downside to it is it takes a 396 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: long time, and you also have to wait for the 397 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: water to cool, and you can't get a lot of 398 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: volume out of it. So you can whatever size pot 399 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: you've got, you probably already have that for cooking. But 400 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: if you're going to use your stove to purify water, 401 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: it depends on the length of the trip, how long 402 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: you're going for how well that'll work. There's been many trips, 403 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: many hunts that I've gone. I just take my jet 404 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: boil or my I use MSR reactor. I just take 405 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: that and I just boil my water, and that's how 406 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I purify my water. And so each night I boil 407 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: an extract thing of water, I pour it in my bottles, 408 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: and I'm set. I'm good to go. I don't worry 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: about it. Now. The downside is if I drink all 410 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: my water, I need either carry my boiling kit with me, 411 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: or if I'm gonna go for a long time, I'm 412 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: gonna need extra fuel. And so you've got extra weight 413 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: in the fuel to burn to boil the water. But 414 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: if you're a place where you can start a fire 415 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: and you've got a good sized pot, yeah, it's pretty easy. 416 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: Pretty simple. You don't have to take a lot of 417 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: extra stuff, and it's a great way to get clean water. 418 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: But it does take a while and it is kind 419 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: of a pain in the ass. Now, the next method 420 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: of purification would be tablets. So the ones that I 421 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: use most are the iodine tablets. Iodine kills almost everything. 422 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: I guess. It doesn't really kill what is a cryptosporidium. 423 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't really get rid of that, which I think 424 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: is like a protozoa. If I remember right, I just 425 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: remember reading the packets years ago, so somebody could I 426 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: probably should have done more research. Somebody can correct me 427 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: on that. But I like the iodine because I personally 428 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: just do not like the taste of chlorine. I've used 429 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: chlorine in some third world countries because it was better 430 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: than drinking whatever I was going to be served. There's 431 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: probably viruses, there was really bad contaminations, especially in some 432 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: just really remote places in South Central America. But I 433 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: do like the iodine for a couple of reasons. One 434 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: is it does a good job. It's light. But there 435 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: is I use podible Aqua a lot, which is it 436 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: has like a stabilizer agent. So you do the iodine, 437 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: you purify the water, and then you drop in a 438 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: stabilizer agent which gets rid of the iodine flavor. I 439 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: used to purely go into the back country with Pottible Aqua, 440 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: but after prolonged uses of it, I would feel weird. 441 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: My skin would almost feel like my skin would kind 442 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: of hurt. I don't know if what the deal was 443 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: with it. It's just not meant for really long periods 444 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: of time, so if I'm going on a three day trip. 445 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: The cool thing about the Pottible Aqua is super lightweight. 446 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: You don't really have to carry anything else. It's cheap, 447 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: like if you aren't, you're maybe just getting into bad country. Hunting. 448 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: That's a great option because you don't have to invest 449 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: in a hundred two hundred dollar filter. You can just 450 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: go get the ten dollar podible Aqua tablets at Walmart 451 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: and they'll last you a lifetime essentially. Now, the downside 452 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: is you have to be real careful when you're using 453 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: it because you have to like purify your water, so 454 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: you can't like drink half your bottle and then add 455 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: more water and then you've got the whole weight time 456 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: for it to purify. So it might take thirty minutes, 457 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: it might take longer. You know. When you do it, 458 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: you put the tablets in the water and then you 459 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of shake the bottle or turn it upside down 460 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: so it gets in the threads and everything, and then 461 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: you have to wait the time and then you can 462 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: put in the stabilizing agent. And even with that, it 463 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: still tastes a little off if there's grit or whatever 464 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: in the water, like you don't get rid of that. 465 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: But it is a great lightweight alternative and it does work. Now, 466 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: the third purification method I'll talk about is like a 467 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: UV pen or you know they call them UV filters 468 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: or whatever, like a sterry pen. Now, the UV although 469 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's doing much. Actually is in 470 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, one of the best ways to purify water 471 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: because it's pretty easy. Most of the time, you've already 472 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: got a leader Nalgene bottle or whatever. Most of the 473 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: pens do a leader to a leader and a half 474 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: in a bottle. They kill everything, so you're the water 475 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: is gonna be safe to drink. Now. The downside to 476 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: it is they don't work that well with murky water. 477 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: They don't change the taste in any way, or the 478 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: look of it in any way. So if they's just 479 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: weird stuff floating around, you might kill it with the 480 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: UV light, but it's still in there. It's chunky water. 481 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: It's just doesn't look right. It feels scary to drink. 482 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: So that's where maybe a filter is a little bit 483 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: better in some instances because it just looks better when 484 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: it comes out the other end, it tastes better. But 485 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: as far as just ease of use, I have a 486 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: couple of different sterry pens, and there's man, I can't 487 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: even think of it right now, but I've got two 488 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: different brands. They both work really well. The downside is 489 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: they take batteries, so that's something to think about. But 490 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: for the most part, I just throw some lithium batteries 491 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: in there. I haven't had one go out when I 492 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: need it, and I have backup method of purification by 493 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: just boiling water. Another thing that I like to do 494 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: is even in my in my first aid kit, I 495 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: always put a few podible aqua tablets or iodine tablets, 496 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: and most first aid comes with some iodine anyways, for 497 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: cuts and other things. You can put that in your 498 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: water in an emergency. So if you're out there, something 499 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: happens you need to purify your water. I've got those 500 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: that potable aqua or that iodine just in case. A 501 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: couple of little tips that I kind of find, or 502 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: just things that I do that maybe you should think 503 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: about if you're in the back country. Is I always 504 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: have a bottle that would be my dirty bottle, the 505 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: bottle that I scoop out water from that I might 506 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: be pumping from, or if I have if I'm using 507 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: potable aqua tablets using the tablets, I have a bottle 508 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: that I'll always have one bottle them drinking out of. Well, 509 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: I have another bottle that's being purified. So it's good 510 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: to have a system. Whatever you decide to use for 511 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: filtration and purification, have a system with it. So if 512 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm using a water filter, part of my system includes 513 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: I never let the clean hose touch the dirty water. Yeah, 514 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a no brainer. But when you're wrapping 515 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: everything up, I always try to dry everything out. I 516 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: don't like to wrap the dirty hose around the clean 517 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: hose and then have like a wet bag that could 518 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: have contaminated water, and then just put that hose into 519 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: my drinking water bottle. You got to think about all 520 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: the little things. Another thing I kind of mentioned earlier, 521 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: but with the water tablets, if you're using the tablets, 522 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: you've gotta have a system where you've got two bottles, 523 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: one that's clean and you're gonna drink from, and one 524 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: that's always waiting to be purified. Because that downtime it 525 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: gets kind of difficult to manage everything of like, okay, 526 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: which battle is my waiting bottle? Which bottles my drinking bottle? 527 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: And then I'll And one thing you want to remember 528 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: too is okay, well, if you're dipping out of a 529 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: contaminated water source, okay, well where's that water? Also at 530 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: what's on the threads of the bottle, So you gotta 531 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: turn your bottle upside down and make sure that water 532 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: gets around the threads. And then you just want to 533 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: be very careful of swapping contaminated and uncontaminated things. If 534 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: you're boiling water, you know you'll have I'll have one 535 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: bottle that is my bottle that I transfer water in 536 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: and I don't drink out of, and then I pour 537 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: into the pot boil that and then that goes into 538 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: my drinking water bottle. So whatever your method of purification is, 539 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, make sure that you have a system. If 540 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: I have my UV sterry pen, I kind of actually 541 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: keep my sterry pen on me in somewhere that's super handy. 542 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: So every time that I stop, I can just fill 543 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: up if I need to quickly purify the water, and 544 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: then I'm good to go. But one thing I do 545 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: with my sterry pen is I make sure to really 546 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: clean the out side edge of the bottle as well. 547 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: That way, same with the tablets, you aren't drinking contaminated 548 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: water on the threads. There's a ton of different options 549 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to purifying your water, but really just 550 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: think of what you're doing, how long you're going and 551 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the type of water you're likely to encounter, and that'll 552 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: really depend on which system is best for you. I 553 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: would say my top two for just most use would 554 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: be the UV pen because it's really lightweight, it's easy. 555 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: The downside of the batteries isn't that bad, but if 556 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: it is cold, the batteries don't last as long. Now. 557 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: The other thing to think about two is with a 558 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: water filter. If you're going late season and it's cold, 559 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: those water filters, those pump filters do freeze, so you 560 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: gotta remember, Okay, at night, I've done where I've taken 561 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: it into my sleeping bag with me to keep it defrosted. 562 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: I'll take some extra handwarmers to put in the little 563 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: bag pack with my water filter. Little things you want 564 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: to think about, so late season hunts. If all I'm 565 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: doing is late season, most of the time, I just 566 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: boil my water because it's nice to have warm water. 567 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be boiling a lot of water anyways. I'm 568 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: probably stopping and making fires. That's going to be my system. 569 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: It's always nice as well to have a couple options 570 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: where you've got a little bit of a backup if 571 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: something goes wrong. You have some maybe tablets in your 572 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: first aid kit. You might have some options just in 573 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: case you need to purify water and your main method fails. 574 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: I really hope that talking a little bit about water 575 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: purification and filtration helps some people. You know, I've been 576 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: getting a lot of questions about it, so that's actually 577 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: why I decided to talk about it this week. So yes, 578 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: when you send me a message via Instagram via the 579 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Remy Warren Meat Eater, email Remy at the meat Eater 580 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Although you may not have a direct reply, 581 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: I try to reply to as many as I can. 582 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: I say this nearly every week, but it bears repeating. 583 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: I try to reply to as many of the social 584 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: media messages as I can. The emails A lot of 585 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: those get used in our Q and A, which is 586 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: coming up next week. So if you've got some questions 587 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: right m in. We've got a ton of great questions 588 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: on here, and some of the stuff that I recurring 589 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: themes that we keep seeing. That's why I start talking 590 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: about it. So water filtration, purification, water. There's a lot 591 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: of questions about water. There's even a lot of questions about, well, 592 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: what if you can't find water, maybe I'll jump on 593 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: one of those next week. I don't know you're off 594 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: to tune in, but anyways, I appreciate you guys. Hopefully 595 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: this this helps. I think that it's one of those 596 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: daunting things too. If you don't do a lot of 597 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: back country hunting, but you're deciding, hey, I want to 598 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: go on. Even if you aren't back country but you're 599 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: just camping. You know, that's a great you know, and 600 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: instead of having to take all your water with you, 601 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: having some form of system where you can just purify, filter, 602 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: what have you. It's it's a great idea, a great 603 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: thing to have, great knowledge to know, and it will 604 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: just keep you out there long, younger, safer and not 605 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: be doing the windmial puking in gale force winds outside 606 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: the tent off of fog Knack Island. You know, just 607 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: be smart to do it right. So until next week, 608 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: this drinks on me, Catch you guys later.