WEBVTT - #705 Packers Unscripted: Rookie recap

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my

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<v Speaker 1>partner in Crime West and Hodkowitz. We're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>from different locations at lambeau Field and West. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>different locations, you are in a brand new spot. My friend,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, tell me what sent you from whence you

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<v Speaker 1>are now coming?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Duke Bobber is the one that sent me from

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<v Speaker 2>whence I'm now coming. When you use your boss's office

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<v Speaker 2>too much, eventually he just kicks you out. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think actually the format of the show now moving forward

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<v Speaker 2>should be I just end up in random parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the building for Packers Unscripted today, we are coming to

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<v Speaker 2>you live from the fifth floor suites or the hallways

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<v Speaker 2>right outside of it. I'll be honest with you, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty nice. It's my first time seven years

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<v Speaker 2>is a Green Bay Packers employee, my first time ever

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<v Speaker 2>being on the fifth floor, and uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>I could get used to this, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the I like the nice, nice new look.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the background looks shark well at.

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<v Speaker 2>The feel I think is what Tyler Gayeski calls it

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<v Speaker 2>depth Okael.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, that would yes, that would be Tyler. Tyler,

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<v Speaker 1>our meticulous photographer in our in our uh video department. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here to talk about the happenings of this past

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<v Speaker 1>weekend at lambeau Field, and specifically I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>annual Rookie Mini Camp, the introduction of the draft class,

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<v Speaker 1>the undrafted rookies, also several tryout players who were taking

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<v Speaker 1>a crack at making the ninety man offseason roster, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that a little more later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the show as well. But Rookie Mini Camp has come

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<v Speaker 1>and gone now for twenty twenty three. And what were

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<v Speaker 1>your impressions, Wes? What what sticks with you? As as now?

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<v Speaker 1>The next time we're going to see these players on

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<v Speaker 1>the field will be during OTA's got our first look

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<v Speaker 1>at him this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as always, Mike, I mean, you take the Rookie

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<v Speaker 2>Mini Camp with the grain of salt, because on these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are just trying to understand the process here in

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay. They're trying to teach him how to practice,

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<v Speaker 2>what the expectations are. In two it's really our first

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<v Speaker 2>time getting in front of these players in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are always the biggest two takeaways from this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll be honest with you, in my now ten

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<v Speaker 2>years twelve years covering rookie mini camps, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I've ever seen anybody more physically impressive than Lucasfanas.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh he. It's one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>When you and I are sitting here writing these bulletin

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<v Speaker 2>reports and during the draft and doing the stories and

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<v Speaker 2>asking the questions afterwards. It's one thing to look at

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<v Speaker 2>six foot five, two hundred and seventy two pounds, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>one inch wingspan, seventeen size shoe, as he told us

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<v Speaker 2>in the locker room on Friday, But when you actually

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<v Speaker 2>see him out on the field, and even look at

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<v Speaker 2>some of Evan Siegel's photos, Lucas fan asked for a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one year old man, is a pretty impressive physical specimen.

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<v Speaker 2>And as important and as as deep as this draft

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<v Speaker 2>I feel was for Green Bay in terms of finding

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that getting off the bus is going to

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<v Speaker 2>strike fear into opponents. I think the Packers hit the

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<v Speaker 2>target with Lucas Fanas. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It is interesting, how because we spend so much time

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<v Speaker 1>both pre draft, during the draft, the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>heights and weights and all the measurables, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers are just the numbers, right, And then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>you see you see these these young men in person,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, the numbers, the numbers actually mean something,

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<v Speaker 1>They represent something, and they do make a physical impression

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<v Speaker 1>on you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also impressed, not not in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of just overall stature, but in watching the

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<v Speaker 1>two tight ends, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft. Now granted

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<v Speaker 1>this is just you know, running around in shorts and helmets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no no pads or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can see why the packers are so high on

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<v Speaker 1>the athleticism of these tight ends and the potential different

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<v Speaker 1>dimension that they could bring to the offense. Obviously, there's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a long way to go in terms of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, learning the playbook and and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches figuring out exactly what their roles are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be and and and what they do best. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you see a couple of tight ends that are six

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<v Speaker 1>five sixty six and look like you know, they're maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a half step slower than the wide receivers so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not not that much difference in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>that off the off the line of scrimmage speed and

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<v Speaker 1>and breaking into routes and and whatnot. It does, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it does make an impression on you. And it'll just

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting just to watch these players develop now

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<v Speaker 1>through OTAs and then into training camp and put the

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<v Speaker 1>pads on for the first time. It's a h I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care whether you're Tucker Craft coming from South Dakota

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<v Speaker 1>State or whether you're Lucas van Ness coming from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa and the Big Ten to the NFL. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big it's a big step physically and mentally

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and quite frankly, these young men don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of time, especially if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be counted on to play and contribute early. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole lot of time to get ready for

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<v Speaker 1>it and prepare for it. But you know, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be asked to They're gonna be asked to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything they can to be ready for week one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially you know, if if Mercedes Lewis isn't back, you

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<v Speaker 2>have two guys at six foot five, six foot six

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<v Speaker 2>in that ballpark of two hundred and fifty five pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>That are the I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say only inline traditional tight ends on the roster, but

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<v Speaker 2>Josiah Deguara obviously more that Swiss army knife, that h

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<v Speaker 2>back type of role. Tyler Davis is still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>has the frame to be a really solid tight end,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know was a former college quarterback, had had

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<v Speaker 2>to make that transition to tight end. Luke muskrat in

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker Kraft, I mean, these guys have been tight end

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<v Speaker 2>since birth basically. I mean when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>way they're built and the way in which they can accelerate.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget who was saying this to me after the

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<v Speaker 2>rookie mini camp got done, I believe on Saturday, looking

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<v Speaker 2>at them running just some of the routes on air,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a period where there you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks, and then some of the assistant coaches are

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<v Speaker 2>throwing passes. They're doing like five wide type sets, and

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<v Speaker 2>both Craft and Musgrave took passes underneath and the way

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<v Speaker 2>in which they not only caught the ball in rhythm

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<v Speaker 2>but then accelerated upfield. Again, there's no pads, there's no defense.

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<v Speaker 2>You always want to add these caveats, but Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>can just tell that these guys are different type of

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<v Speaker 2>athletes and in that same vein you know, Jaden Reid

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<v Speaker 2>I thought very much came as advertised. The conversation I

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<v Speaker 2>had with Larry mcchaern about this was he's just a smooth,

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<v Speaker 2>smooth football player. He gets in and out of his brakes.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's one thing to be successful when you're cutting

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<v Speaker 2>and you're you're doing change of direction stuff, but when

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it with fluidity, I think that's where

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<v Speaker 2>you see these Tyreek Hills of the world sort of

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<v Speaker 2>separate themselves. And in that regard, I think Jayden Reid

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of intangibles that you look for and

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<v Speaker 2>this next generation of receivers. So as far as those

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<v Speaker 2>first two days of the NFL Draft were concerned, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like watching those four players perform on Friday and Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>they are what they are supposed to be. From an

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<v Speaker 2>athletic standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would totally agree. We also get our first chance,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously to meet these players, to talk to them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to try to get a sense of their personalities

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot a little bit. And over the next you know,

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half, two weeks Wes and I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>some some follow up stories on these draft picks based

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<v Speaker 1>on some of those interviews and other things that we

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<v Speaker 1>dig into. But in terms of those impressions, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I have to give Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Sean Clifford a heck of a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 1>because the media, you know, the media comes in for

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<v Speaker 1>the open locker room session to do interviews, and what's

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<v Speaker 1>immediately noticed by everybody, of course, is that Sean Clifford

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting in Aaron Rodgers old locker and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's his name played up there, Clifford number eight,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's where Rogers has been forever, right. And as

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<v Speaker 1>the media in waves, you know, come up to Clifford

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<v Speaker 1>to to talk to him, he's you know, asked by

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe at least a dozen different reporters, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that this is Aaron rodgerss like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think somebody informed me of that along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And he, I mean, to his credit, he uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he even made a joke about it that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he came to Green Bay on a pre

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<v Speaker 1>draft visit and saw in the locker room where Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers locker was and then now when he comes back

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<v Speaker 1>as a draft pick like that was his locker, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that that is something that that feels a little overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>But to Clifford's credit, you know, all he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all he talked about. All he's focused on is to

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<v Speaker 1>is to learn the playbook, to get the offense down

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<v Speaker 1>to to uh to play whatever role the coaches need

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<v Speaker 1>him to play relative to Jordan Love while also competing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Danny Ettling for the backup quarterback spot,

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<v Speaker 1>and that competition will really get going, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit in OTAs, but even in a more full

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<v Speaker 1>fledged sense in you know, training camp, in the preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first impression of Sean Clifford is this is

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<v Speaker 1>this feels like a very grounded young man who has

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<v Speaker 1>has quite the head on his shoulders. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>just tell he's an experienced guy. You know, forty plus

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<v Speaker 1>starts at Penn State, thirty plus victories as a starting

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<v Speaker 1>as a starting quarterback in the Big Ten, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be an interesting guy to get

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<v Speaker 1>to know as as his rookie season goes along well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the same thing of like a Stetson Bennett, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like these guys that have played in big moments in

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<v Speaker 3>football hungry cities, in college campuses. They come in as

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<v Speaker 3>Day three picks, but in reality they kind of have

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<v Speaker 3>a Day one mindset in terms of how they approach

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<v Speaker 3>the job. When you look at Clifford situation, and again,

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<v Speaker 3>a kid that beat out Will Levis for Penn State's job,

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<v Speaker 3>he rotated with him the first year there and then

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately Levis decided to transfer and then was the man

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<v Speaker 3>for the next what two and a half years. So

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing too, that I think people have to understand, like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why would they give away Aaron Rodgers locker with the

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen player draft class. This isn't like the Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 3>era ten years ago where seventh round picks were just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thrown into the Green Mile with all the

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<v Speaker 3>other undrafted guys. The Packers give lockers to all their

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<v Speaker 3>draft picks in the main area. If you don't make

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<v Speaker 3>the team, then they'll transition you back to the practice

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<v Speaker 3>squad or the Green Mile. So with a thirteen player

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<v Speaker 3>draft class and as many returning players they have, I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's like maybe three lockers in the entire main

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<v Speaker 3>area right now that aren't spoken for, and one of

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<v Speaker 3>them is directly next to Jordan Love. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>know anything about the way that we do press conferences

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<v Speaker 3>here in Green Bay, you absolutely do not want to

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<v Speaker 3>have a locker immediately directly next to the starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>So you need to have some room there for that individual.

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<v Speaker 3>But all that being said, I thought Clifford took it

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<v Speaker 3>and stride in. To be honest with you when you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this. I had a conversation with Sarah Quick

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<v Speaker 3>Or assistant director of PR on Saturday after Grant two

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<v Speaker 3>Boys got done, and I'm a really interesting conversation between

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<v Speaker 3>my among myself and Grant and Jason Wilding Cassidy Hill,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, I was like, man, I've just been

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<v Speaker 3>blown away by you know, Grant in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these prospects. And Sarah even mentioned she's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think all the guys are really good last weekend, and

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<v Speaker 3>I have to agree. I mean, I thought if I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to everybody but watching between watching the videos

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<v Speaker 3>and participating in these interviews, I just I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>could see why these players jumped off the page to

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay, regardless of whether it's a Lucas van S

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<v Speaker 3>or a kid, you know, like Quarantine Carenton Valentine from Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one years old in the seventh round. You can

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<v Speaker 3>just sense that fire with them and just that professionalism

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<v Speaker 3>and the idea that I, hey, I'm striving for something

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<v Speaker 3>more here in Green Bay. And for that reason, I

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<v Speaker 3>think once training camp comes around in July, this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a very exciting year to be covering

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<v Speaker 3>the Green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, do keep an eye out over the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, Wes, and I'll have follow up stories

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<v Speaker 1>based on some of those interviews over Rookie Mini Caamp

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<v Speaker 1>Weekend on the Draft Picks. Some interesting stories to be

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<v Speaker 1>told there and another story and interview I want to

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<v Speaker 3>All right, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Story that you wes have already posted on our website.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier this week, the pack were allocated a player for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in what the NFL calls the International

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<v Speaker 1>Pathway Program, and it's a young man named Kenneth Odemegu

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<v Speaker 1>from Nigeria. Has a very interesting story and you've already

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<v Speaker 1>written about it. It's on our site for anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to check it out. I will just say six

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<v Speaker 1>ft six, two hundred and fifty nine pounds. He is

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<v Speaker 1>quite the athlete, and you meant used to use the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase physical specimen earlier. He certainly falls into that category.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is you talk about literally learning the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football from scratch and trying to go from being

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<v Speaker 1>being an athlete and a very impressive looking one, to

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to becoming an NFL player as an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a as a young man. This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very interesting story here, and he certainly

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<v Speaker 1>has an interesting story to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he definitely does, Mike, and it's funny to me too.

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<v Speaker 2>You're mentioned the physical specimen. Well, much like Lucas Vaness,

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<v Speaker 2>who has the nickname Hercules Kenneth Dumagu. He actually also

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<v Speaker 2>has the nickname Hercules, so those two are gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of banter and battle over this thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can see why, I mean the most impressive thing

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<v Speaker 2>about him. In addition to just that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was such a fun interaction he had with the media

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of telling a little bit of his

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<v Speaker 2>story and where he comes from. When Odemagu actually said

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, I didn't even know what a line.

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<v Speaker 3>Of scrimmage is.

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<v Speaker 2>To today, I mean now being in a position and

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<v Speaker 2>he's grateful for it. To learn the game at the

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<v Speaker 2>highest level from some of the best coaches and practitioners

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<v Speaker 2>of the sport is going to be very exciting for him.

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<v Speaker 2>For as much as he didn't know, though, I really

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<v Speaker 2>give him a lot of credit for the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time he spent really diving into the sport first and

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<v Speaker 2>foremost oc Yu Manura. You look at the International Pathway Program,

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<v Speaker 2>everything they've done out in London to try to grow

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<v Speaker 2>the game internationally but also give people opportunity that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not otherwise would have had them to play this sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Odemegu is a perfect example of that, because this is

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<v Speaker 2>a kid that grew up in Nigeria playing soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>He outgrew the sport. I mean, you don't see a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of six foot six, two hundred and sixty pound, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>soccer players, midfielders out on the field. He transitioned to

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<v Speaker 2>basketball and ultimately working through educational basketball program out in Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 2>They felt like, hey, his best spot potentially could be football.

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<v Speaker 2>Oman Eura looked at him, said, hey, you're a defensive end.

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<v Speaker 2>Brought him into his camp at the NFL Africa camp

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<v Speaker 2>in Ghana. He won the Defensive MVP award there. As

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he still has yet to actually play an

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<v Speaker 2>organized football game. All of this has been training and

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<v Speaker 2>combines and all those things. But he's been staying up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, since coming to the United States in January.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to his physical training he's been doing, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been reading about this sport. He's been watching videos on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something omen Eura kind of suggested to him

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And he talked about the decision he made

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<v Speaker 2>with his parents iding to try to make a run

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<v Speaker 2>at the sport, and there was a really good quote

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<v Speaker 2>in there that I tweeted it afterwards. That was one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite bits just one little simple line where

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<v Speaker 2>he said there was something inside of me, something inside

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<v Speaker 2>my heart that made me feel like this is possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And here he is chasing the dream. He already had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to meet with Shan Gary. He'll be working

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<v Speaker 2>in that outside linebacker room with Preston Smith and Jason Rebrovich.

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<v Speaker 3>And a neat moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Two on Saturday, you know he's going out there, he's stretching,

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt Lafleur, who actually wasn't here on Friday because

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<v Speaker 2>he was down in Madison for Greg Guards cancer charity,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fundraiser. Just a little bit of a fifth

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<v Speaker 2>step from Matt Lafleur to odemagu at the beginning of practice,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like those are the little moments that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to the onlookers you might not quite understand

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<v Speaker 2>what that means. But for a kid like this that

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<v Speaker 2>is basically dedicated his life to the past year towards

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<v Speaker 2>being one of these eight players that did get allocated

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<v Speaker 2>to an NFL team, eternally grateful for and as he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to be a pioneer for the sport. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants to and not only try to excel in this

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<v Speaker 2>and learn how to play it in the NFL level,

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<v Speaker 2>but also bring it back to his home country and

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<v Speaker 2>give kids the same opportunity he's been afforded now in

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a story that starts out as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the longest of long shots, right, So it'll be really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how this unfolds and the Packers will.

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<v Speaker 1>As an International Pathway Program player, he essentially is guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>a spot on the ninety man offseason roster all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through training camp, and then if he doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty three man roster, which is the most likely scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a practice squad exemption for him to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to stick around. So the Packers if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him on the practice squads, he becomes the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth practice squad player and you still have your normal

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<v Speaker 1>allocation of sixteen in players in that regard. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if I made too Mike, when you were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the longest of long shots, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make this point because it's not like, oh, they just

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<v Speaker 2>found Odemega and it's like, yep, you're gonna come to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. Well, there was a pretty long process for

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<v Speaker 2>him to make it the camp in Ghana him going

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<v Speaker 2>to the combine. Thirty eight players were invited to the

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<v Speaker 2>combine in London, which was I think five days before

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<v Speaker 2>at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, five days before the Packers played

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants. From that, only eight players were selected to

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<v Speaker 2>be allocated. It's two NFL divisions. I believe it was

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<v Speaker 2>the NFC North and I want to say it was

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<v Speaker 2>the AFC West was the other one. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>only two divisions this year that have this allocation process.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like, okay, well they had thirty eight players

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<v Speaker 2>and they just pushed them all around the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Only eight guys got to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>So it tells you exactly how high both the Omenyurra

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<v Speaker 2>is on this but also the NFL to give him

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<v Speaker 2>this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the Packers have already switched him, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the original announcement. He was announced as

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive lineman at six six, two fifty nine. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have decided to to try to craft him, mold

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<v Speaker 1>him as an outside linebacker in you know, with that

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<v Speaker 1>that Preston Smith sort of size and frame and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and hey, if oc Umnyura can do something for the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from break the fans' hearts in those some of

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<v Speaker 1>those uh bosses previously. Yeah, maybe uh maybe something uh

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<v Speaker 1>something good to come out. I kid, of course, oc

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<v Speaker 1>Umnyora is a tremendous, tremendous ambassador for the NFL, even

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<v Speaker 1>though uh he was the the enemy to Packers fans

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<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of things in some of those postseasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll close close on this one west. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as the news over the weekend from Rookie Mini Camp,

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<v Speaker 1>there were fourteen players who were invited to the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>rookie Mini camp on a tryout basis, and in that respect,

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, essentially trying to earn a contract as

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<v Speaker 1>an undrafted rookie, as an undrafted free agent onto that

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<v Speaker 1>ninety man offseason roster, and the Packers ended up signing

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<v Speaker 1>three tryout players, Broughton Hatcher, a long snapper from Old Dominion,

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<v Speaker 1>William Hooper, a cornerback from Northwestern State, and Antonio Moultrie,

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive lineman from Alabama Birmingham, u AB. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the news side of things, other than obviously watching these

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<v Speaker 1>players to see if you know who might be the

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<v Speaker 1>next you know, Lucas Patrick the you know, the tryout

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<v Speaker 1>that player nobody had ever heard of, who maybe ends

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<v Speaker 1>up becoming a regular player in the NFL. But Hatcher,

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<v Speaker 1>the long snapper from Old Dominion, has replaced Jack Coco

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster, and Hatcher is now the competition for

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Orzich, the long snapper that the Packers signed, the

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<v Speaker 1>veteran long snapper who was signed as a free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the packers few free agent acquisitions during the offseason. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about many times, Rich Bassaccia's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stamp is all over this this Packers roster and and

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<v Speaker 1>everything with regard to special teams and the Packers leaving

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<v Speaker 1>no stone unt earned in that regard. Here already a

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<v Speaker 1>change in terms of the competition that will be setting

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<v Speaker 1>up at long snapper as the Packers move into the

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<v Speaker 1>spring and summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and obviously for the Green Bay Packers that continues

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<v Speaker 2>that that cycle they've been going through with long snappers

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<v Speaker 2>since making the decision to have Steed and Word will

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<v Speaker 2>replace Hunter Bradley midway through I believe that was the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty season. Listen, this is going to be a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, you knew with Matt Orzik that he

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<v Speaker 2>could be the guy, not only because of the contract,

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<v Speaker 2>not only because they signed him as an unrestricted free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers had interest in him going back two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It just so happened that the Rams when they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to claim when the Packers tried to claim him, the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams had a higher waiver claiming were able to get him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously he went won a Super Bowl there.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is the incumbent. Now, I think you would

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<v Speaker 2>say he is probably the favorite for it. But Hatcher,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to like about him when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the fact. I believe when I was reading his

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<v Speaker 2>bio he was like the fifth or sixth top recruited,

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<v Speaker 2>top rated long snap when he was coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>high school. Played thirty five games for Old Dominion. Old

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<v Speaker 2>Dominion says that he was never credited with a bad

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<v Speaker 2>snap during that time. Missed the twenty season because of COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>missed all but one game in twenty one because of

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<v Speaker 2>an ankle injury. But you know, br Hatcher is a

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<v Speaker 2>kid that has been doing this at a high level

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<v Speaker 2>for a number of years. Whereas Jack was making that transition,

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<v Speaker 2>he was kind of a tweener between tight end and

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<v Speaker 2>long snapper Hatcher. This has been his preferred position going

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back to high school. So he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>the one that comes in and pushes or chick or

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<v Speaker 2>sick excuse me for the job. And unfortunately for Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt terrible. I sent him a little message after

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<v Speaker 2>the news came out because I really did enjoy the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so much respect for what he did and

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<v Speaker 2>being willing to really put everything he had into becoming

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<v Speaker 2>a long snapper last year. I think it was a success.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that he went from being a tryout, being

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that hadn't been a long snapper on punts

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<v Speaker 2>since high school as far as an in game setting,

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<v Speaker 2>and he put himself in a position to be a

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<v Speaker 2>long snapper here for an entire season, all seventeen games.

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<v Speaker 2>My hat goes off to him, and obviously the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers as they begin these renovations on special teams

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<v Speaker 2>and with the specialists. They have two new candidates here

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<v Speaker 2>for the job in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see how that competition unfolds,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when we get to training camp in the preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where you imagine, you know, both of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys getting a chance to snap in game action with

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<v Speaker 1>their Packers' uniforms, So with that, we will call it

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<v Speaker 1>a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of our coverage of the team on

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<v Speaker 1>packers dot com for wes. I am Mike. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in, everybody, and we will see you next time.