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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my

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Speaker 1: partner in Crime West and Hodkowitz. We're coming to you

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Speaker 1: from different locations at lambeau Field and West. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: different locations, you are in a brand new spot. My friend,

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Speaker 1: tell me, tell me what sent you from whence you

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Speaker 2: Well, Duke Bobber is the one that sent me from

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Speaker 2: whence I'm now coming. When you use your boss's office

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Speaker 2: too much, eventually he just kicks you out. So I

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Speaker 2: think actually the format of the show now moving forward

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Speaker 2: should be I just end up in random parts of

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Speaker 2: the building for Packers Unscripted today, we are coming to

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Speaker 2: you live from the fifth floor suites or the hallways

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Speaker 2: right outside of it. I'll be honest with you, Mike,

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Speaker 2: this is pretty nice. It's my first time seven years

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Speaker 2: is a Green Bay Packers employee, my first time ever

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Speaker 2: being on the fifth floor, and uh huh.

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Speaker 3: I could get used to this, okay.

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Speaker 1: I like the I like the nice, nice new look.

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Speaker 1: I like the background looks shark well at.

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Speaker 2: The feel I think is what Tyler Gayeski calls it

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Speaker 2: depth Okael.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that would yes, that would be Tyler. Tyler,

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Speaker 1: our meticulous photographer in our in our uh video department. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the happenings of this past

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Speaker 1: weekend at lambeau Field, and specifically I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: annual Rookie Mini Camp, the introduction of the draft class,

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Speaker 1: the undrafted rookies, also several tryout players who were taking

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that a little more later on in

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Speaker 1: the show as well. But Rookie Mini Camp has come

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Speaker 1: and gone now for twenty twenty three. And what were

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Speaker 1: your impressions, Wes? What what sticks with you? As as now?

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Speaker 1: The next time we're going to see these players on

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Speaker 1: at him this past weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as always, Mike, I mean, you take the Rookie

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Speaker 2: guys are just trying to understand the process here in

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Speaker 2: what the expectations are. In two it's really our first

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Speaker 2: So those are always the biggest two takeaways from this weekend.

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Speaker 2: But I'll be honest with you, in my now ten

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Speaker 2: years twelve years covering rookie mini camps, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I've ever seen anybody more physically impressive than Lucasfanas.

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Speaker 3: Uh he. It's one thing.

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Speaker 2: When you and I are sitting here writing these bulletin

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Speaker 2: in the locker room on Friday, But when you actually

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Speaker 2: And as important and as as deep as this draft

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Speaker 1: It is interesting, how because we spend so much time

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Speaker 1: I was also impressed, not not in the same way

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Speaker 1: two tight ends, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft. Now granted

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Speaker 2: Especially you know, if if Mercedes Lewis isn't back, you

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Speaker 3: That are the I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Say only inline traditional tight ends on the roster, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would totally agree. We also get our first chance,

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Speaker 1: I have to say I have to give Penn State

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Speaker 1: because the media, you know, the media comes in for

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Speaker 3: And I think the same thing of like a Stetson Bennett, right,

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Speaker 3: Like these guys that have played in big moments in

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Speaker 3: other undrafted guys. The Packers give lockers to all their

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Speaker 3: All right, a.

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Speaker 2: missed all but one game in twenty one because of

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Speaker 2: I felt terrible. I sent him a little message after

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Speaker 2: I have so much respect for what he did and

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Speaker 2: The fact that he went from being a tryout, being

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Speaker 2: My hat goes off to him, and obviously the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers as they begin these renovations on special teams

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Speaker 2: and with the specialists. They have two new candidates here

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see how that competition unfolds,

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Speaker 1: You know where you imagine, you know, both of those

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Speaker 1: guys getting a chance to snap in game action with

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Speaker 1: their Packers' uniforms, So with that, we will call it

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Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

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Speaker 1: packers dot com for wes. I am Mike. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody, and we will see you next time.