1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Time part weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars running 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: back Fred Taylor. Week fifteen, Jets Jaguars. You know, Fred, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: if the Jaguars win two straight games, that's what they 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: call a winning streak. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Imagine that. Wow. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you'll take it how you can take 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: it right, take it as it comes. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Man, win pretty ugly, it does not matter. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: A win is a win, especially for all Jaguars fans 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: around the world. Last week wasn't pretty, but they found 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: a way to get it done. This week, you know, 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: not the ideal matchup we all anticipated or in the preseason. 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: You know, the Jets were considered a playoff team. The 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: Jaguars was considered a team that had potential to bounce 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: back from a year ago. We all thought that was 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: the case for both teams, and neither team has shown up. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: And but you still have a matchup. You know, if 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: we go back to what is it four years ago, 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: this was a matchup that they the team that at 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: one and lost it would get the first pick. And 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: here we are again with those same potential implications. 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: But we'll see how it goes. 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: We will see. Last week, the Jaguars defense played well 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: to give up some yards. But then I had three 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: fourth down stops. That's a good step in the right direction. See, 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: young guys played well, that's promising, like Jarion Jones who 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: had the sack. So that's a good thing on defense. 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: But this week they're going up against Aaron Rodgers, only 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: the all time greats, eighth of the all time passing lists. 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: They've got Davonte Adams, they got Garrett Wilson, They've got 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: they've got parts. They might not be playing well in 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: New York on offense overall, but this is still a 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: group that has the pieces to hurt you. 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the more I see a Rod, the more I'm like, 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: come on, pro, you know, come on, go go ahead 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: and retire, you know, just just shut it down. 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I love him as a as a player. 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: You know, I haven't had a chance to really, you know, 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: have an extensive conversation with him, but you know, on 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: the field, I thought that he was always one of 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: the best to ever played the position. Again these last 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: two years, well you know, fairness, this year, you know, 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't look great. It doesn't look like the a 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: Rod that I'm used to see, but he does have 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 3: some pieces around him, you know, and young Wilson right there. 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: He has Davante Adams, some guys who can get it done. 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: You know, it has a couple of running backs in 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 3: the backfield as well. You got Hall and Allen who 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: also can get it done. Big big backs, strong running backs, 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: strong downhill type running back. So again, offensively, they have weapons, 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: they can get it done. The protection has always been 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: an issue. Can they protect long enough to you know, 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: allow a rod to feel comfortable. I ain't a many 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: forty year olds want to get hit JP. So trust me, 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: you can hit him once and he'll start looking around, 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: and I think that's gonna be the key. Pressure Josh 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: Heines Allen has been more probably one of the most 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: consistent players on the team this year, and it's gonna 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: take him travon the d li getting after room and 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: playing good defense, starlid defense throughout the game. The Jets defense, 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: on the other hand, JP still a pretty solid Grook group. 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: You know, they saws guard and saw. 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: They have some guys that can get it done. So offensively, 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: we have to protect. They have to protect Matt. Matt 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: has to protect the ball and not have those multiple 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: turnovers as he did a week ago. So he has 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: to find a way to protect the ball. And how 68 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: do you do that? You run it tank out eighteen carres. 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: I like to see, you know, Travis et and to 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: get a few more opportunities to sort of help both 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: their his confidence, but running the ball to help you 72 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: win this game. 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Brett Taylor with us. You got to do that early though. 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: They had nine runs to the first half last week 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: and we can't do that. They threw the ball twice 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: in the direction of Brian Thomas Junior in the first half, 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: no catches. All that came in the second half. So yeah, 78 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I get the Texans whoever they played last week was 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: on the field forever. But I mean when you have 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: your opportunities, you got to strike the you know, hit 81 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: those players earlier in the game. 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been the thing for this team this entire season, 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: is their first quarter, first half offensive woes. You know, 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: I don't recall to date of record actually an NFL 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 3: team that sort of had these sorts of dismal starts, 86 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: you know, to to the ball games throughout the entire 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: It's been this way the entire season. You know, like 88 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: if you're not gonna get out there, you're not gonna 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: start fast. You're not gonna create this momentum. You're not 90 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: gonna win ball games. It's a lot of knots and 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: that's what happens in the NFL. So if they can 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: get out there, try to find some sort of big 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: play early in the game. We've been saying this for 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: the longest day. Peak just just throw a deep fifty 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: to fifty ball to Brian thumbas we're seeing that he's capable. 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: These other teams are doing it. You look around the league, 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: like Cincinnati is doing it. The Cowboys find a way 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: to do it. Like these teams haven't played great, but 99 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: these teams are finding a way to get their playmakers 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: the ball. And sometimes it's simply just manufacturing the force 101 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: of issue. Play a fifty to fifty gamble play. Hell, 102 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: if it doesn't work, put your defense out there and 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: hopefully they hold up. But sometimes the methodical coach can 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: be coaching, or approach can be overthinking. But you know, 105 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: I digress. I'm not in the building coaching. I don't 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: know what's going on behind the scenes. I just want 107 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: these guys to go out there and be successful. 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: Of course, the Jaguars played the Titans last week at 109 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: the three and ten, they kind of all run together 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: at this point. Fred Taylor was proud of the Jaguars 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: running back. You know, there's outside of the building, a 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: lot of fans are like, oh, you mess up the 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: draft status for next year with a win last week. Right, 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: So that's the fan A lot of fan perspective're not 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: going to speak for everybody right inside the building. If 116 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: you're a coach or a player, you know, I mean, 117 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: you're not caring about that because this goes on your 118 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: permanent record. These the last four games moving ahead, and 119 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: a player I'm guessing right Fred, from your perspective, doesn't 120 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: care what the draft stock is next year because that 121 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: player might take their job. 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody cares about the draft position. 123 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: Nobody's thinking about players coming out of college. 124 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: I would like this guy or this guy. I've never 125 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: thought that way. 126 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 3: I've never heard the locker room whispers, you know, anything 127 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: to that extent. 128 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: In my entire thirteen years. 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: It's about the guys that are in the locker room, 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: you know, who can help us now. It's always about now. 131 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 3: We have never had conversations about you know, the future. 132 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: You know, And again, I don't know how much the 133 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: game has evolved guys in the locker room anticipating these 134 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 3: picks or these positions, or wanting the guy from college 135 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: to be on his team. 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 137 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: I still believe that the best players in the world 138 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: are the best players in the locker room. 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: On the NFL level. 140 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: Now, there are some amazing college talent out there, but 141 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: they have yet to prove what they can do on 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: that level. It's still all potential based hoping that these 143 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: guys can reach the next level and be you know, 144 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: All Stars or you know, all Pro eventually Pro Bowls, 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: et cetera. So no one, no one cares. You want 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: to win the ball game. I mean, you have incentives. Yeah, 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: there's so many reasons to want to win right now. 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't look forward, but I understand the fans. 149 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: But what they don't look at all the time is, 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: you know, draft position, you want to get your player. 151 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: You know, if there's not a going number one, who 152 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: are you going to pick? Fans, who are you going 153 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: to pick? If you have the number one pick. We've 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: had the number one pick two times in the past 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: four years. No, who are we gonna pick? So you know, 156 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: even if it's three or four I tease Travis Hunter 157 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: on the podcast we dropped Tuesday on the pivot, I said, 158 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: do ball. I said, you need to learn how to 159 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: say that now, and he was like, I would love 160 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: to throw to Jacksonville. But again I said, jokingly, but who, Like, 161 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: there's so much that goes into it. 162 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: All right, we do we need a dB? Do we 163 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: need a receiver? Like? What position is he gonna play? Like? 164 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: The answer is yes to both? 165 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: But yes, well if that's if that's the case, JP, 166 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: maybe they can take one player and get a two 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: for one because he's shown that he can play both. 168 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: But again, I like to digress these days. 169 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Hey, well we got all off season to talk about that. 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: Exactly, and that's another part. So let's just focus on now. 171 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: Let's focus on this Jets team and a team that 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: hopefully well that they need to be and hopefully that'll 173 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: be the outcome. 174 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Red great stuff is always pleasure each and every week. 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: And we'll see you in the postgame coming ye. 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: I will be in the post game, and I'll make 177 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: sure not to eat any bad Dominican Republic food. 178 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Got you last week. 179 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean all the food is bad. So for 180 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: anyone that thinks I'm talking about all the food. No, 181 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: it was just something that upset I had stomach. 182 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Bikers, we don't need all the details. Leave the gory 183 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: details out, Fred, We're good. 184 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: All right. Sit in the post game, all right. We'll 185 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: be in the post game.