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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the Miniso.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we tell you things you didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I know you're about to learn.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: The subject line of this email is the great Goat

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Speaker 3: Gland Grift. It says, hello, my favorite emotional support podcasters.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. Love y'all.

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Speaker 3: Love the podcast Day thirteen listener here so roughly around

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Speaker 3: the time I started writing this hometown, I'll get right

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Speaker 3: to it. That's funny, Day thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Lucky they know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, It says I now live in Los Angeles, but

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Speaker 3: I hail from a small border town of Del Rio, Texas.

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Speaker 3: When I was nine, we moved to a new neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: and I remember driving past the rundown All mansion at

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Speaker 3: the end of our street for the first time. It's

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Speaker 3: imposing iron gates bore the name doctor Brinkley. From the backseat,

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Speaker 3: I asked, who's doctor Brinkley, to which my dad casually replied, Oh, that.

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Speaker 1: Was the goat testicle doctor.

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Speaker 3: As you can imagine, that nickname comes with an equally

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Speaker 3: insane backstory that honestly feels like it could have happened today.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen seventeen, a young doctor named John Romulus Brinkley

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Speaker 3: moved to a tiny town in Kansas with his wife Minnie.

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Speaker 3: One day, a farmer visited Brinkley complaining of being a

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Speaker 3: flat tire aka rectile dysfunction. They joked about how goats

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Speaker 3: never seemed to have that problem, and the farmer said,

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Speaker 3: too bad, you don't have billy goat nuts. What started

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Speaker 3: as a joke turned serious when the farmer insisted Brinkley

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Speaker 3: implant goat testicles into his scritum to fix the issue.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you can't make up a fucking

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Speaker 2: medical procedure.

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Speaker 1: But in nineteen seventeen you could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 3: Thus the goat gland cure was born. Brinkley began promoting

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Speaker 3: from impotence to cancer, even offering a version for women.

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Speaker 3: To be clear, this surgery was a complete hoax and

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Speaker 3: Brinkley knew it, but his charisma and flair, complete with

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Speaker 3: a goate, round glasses in a three piece suit, helped

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Speaker 2: It's like the KFC of testicles.

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Speaker 3: They're like, there's something familiar about that guy, and I

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Speaker 3: trust him Colonel with my testicles. It was also around

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Speaker 3: this time that commercial radio was taking off, and Brinkley

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Speaker 3: using it to promote his hospital quack remedies and elixirs. Wow,

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Speaker 3: so his own means of production. Brinkley was a natural

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Speaker 3: using his calm and conversational voice. Because he was a

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Speaker 3: buying it, though, entered doctor Morris Fishbeine of the newly

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Speaker 2: Morris, you're such a buzzkill.

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Speaker 1: Morris, get in here.

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Speaker 3: Because he also has a curly mustache and round glassysfunction.

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Speaker 2: That's not something to laugh at.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, they're not paying attention.

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Speaker 3: For years, he worked tiresly to expose Brinkley as a fraud,

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Speaker 3: and eventually succeeded, taking him to court. The trial revealed

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Speaker 3: Brinkley had a questionable medical degree and was linked to

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, with countless more likely succumbing to his

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Speaker 1: This is incredible.

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Speaker 3: Brinkley had become one of the most successful killers in

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want a whole episode about this.

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Speaker 3: I mean meat dibbs. Yeah, oh, you can have it

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Speaker 3: shut down his radio station, but Brinkley wasn't finished. He

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 2: The audacity.

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Speaker 3: Get that shit out there and kill more people. It's

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Speaker 2: Please spread the word.

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Speaker 3: Using his celebrity massive cult like following in radio platform

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Speaker 3: He lost, but only because the state rejected thousands of

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Speaker 3: By nineteen thirty one, Brinkley relocated to Del Rio, where

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, keep going, I want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: It's Brinkley's fame grew, so did his ego. He was

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Speaker 3: A libel suit against Fishbne backfired, exposing his fraudulent empire. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he was bankrupt, and a year later he died of

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Speaker 3: a heart attack at the age fifty six. Today his

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Speaker 3: to a con man who built an empire on charisma, deception,

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Speaker 3: and well goat testicles.

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank you too.

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Speaker 3: For being my constant companions for all these years and

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Speaker 3: for always making my Mondays, Thursdays and now Wednesday is

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Speaker 3: is jagged in. So proud of everything that you've accomplished

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Speaker 3: in all the lives you've touched.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: A big shout out to my friend Annie who introduced

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Speaker 3: me to the show, and to my road trip buddies

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Speaker 3: Brian and Cody who are always along for the stories.

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Speaker 3: Hope to see you soon. Alberto Alberto with an exclamation point.

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Speaker 3: Alberto he him and then he included a newspaper article

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Speaker 3: highlighting Billy the first Goat Gland baby.

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Speaker 3: It can't be real though, the erectile stopped dysfunctioning and

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Speaker 3: here comes the Billy the Goat Gland baby.

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Speaker 2: John R.

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Speaker 1: Brinkley and Billy Billy the Goat, Billy.

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Speaker 2: Go Billy Goat. I didn't even think of it.

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Speaker 1: That and that baby is Chris Farley's father.

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Speaker 2: Wow. That there are so many I just there's so

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Speaker 2: many things I want to hear people's like crazy person

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Speaker 3: Yes, there was an incredible the old Victorian that was

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Speaker 1: But it looked like a witch lived there. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: My Okay, first one's called Inca Talking Heads, Lima Peru hometown.

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Speaker 2: Oh hello, and welcome to my favorite story, Smiley winky face.

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Speaker 2: I live in a great little town just north of

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Speaker 2: Pedaluma called and I'm going to get this wrong. It's

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Speaker 1: It well, very well.

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Speaker 2: Yay, this says yay. I saved all my fangirling for

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Speaker 2: you too until the end. So let's dive in because

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Speaker 2: this period is period. Good. My husband is an American

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Speaker 2: the early seventies, ladies, so however inappropriate this was folks

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Speaker 2: treated checking out the graves as a day outing of sorts.

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Speaker 3: That's not sword yoga, I just remembered. But also that's bad.

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Speaker 3: You don't want that that's on your hands or home

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Speaker 2: Grandma Brenda. Grandma Brenda had done the same thing many

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Speaker 2: Interestingly, there's a Peruvian law that states all deceased must

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Speaker 2: time in South America seems to be brimming with truly

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Speaker 2: Cold War, and a super romantic story of his father

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Speaker 2: serenading his mom at her house from a piano that

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Speaker 2: he and his friends had stolen from a bar, put

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Speaker 2: in a truck yes, and drove onto her lawn playing

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Speaker 1: Why can't I have that?

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Speaker 2: That is romance? It's swipe. Now, you just fucking swy

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Speaker 2: swiped on you.

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Speaker 3: Now you're just nagging people in a bar and you're

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Speaker 3: supposed to.

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Speaker 1: That's enough.

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Speaker 2: Now and then it says, oh so sweet, but those

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Speaker 2: finds it. Thank you again, You too are inimitable and

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Speaker 2: we all appreciate you so much. Ash. What does inimitable mean?

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Speaker 1: Like one of a kind, Molly, impossible to copy or imitate?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's not true. Let's not be crazy.

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Speaker 3: That was a first of all, culturally interesting, relevant, but

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Speaker 1: Like that's just like, oh yeah, did you bring a

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Speaker 2: Because they're going to take their land if they tell them.

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Speaker 1: They're not telling anybody. My god, that's amazing. It's so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, this is uh, this is a trash parents story,

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Speaker 3: it says, Hey, Karen and Georgia picture it. It's summer

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five and I'm four years old, and my

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Speaker 3: We rented out the red convertible, drove across the Mexican

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Speaker 3: Caps Sea Worlds. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Not horrible, but horrible. But the kid, it was how

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Speaker 3: All the beautiful fish and they even had those whales.

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Speaker 3: whispering overhears some workers saying and they need to be

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Speaker 3: Five minutes later, I've been taken from my family by

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Speaker 2: That's a snack, You have a photo. Holy fucking shit,

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Speaker 2: this bitch, it's like a It's like she's on a

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Speaker 3: If the carousel had horses that were dangerously wide, because

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Speaker 2: And in the crowd, not a speck of some block

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Speaker 1: Wow, what a time.

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Speaker 2: So maybe that same year I fainted at Sea World.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was there, and I fainted.

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Speaker 3: It was it because that little girl's was doing this

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Speaker 2: No, but can we see my head in the back?

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Speaker 1: Am I there? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I am nothing but my mother's daughter, and I am

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Speaker 3: loving it. I sit smile and wave to my adoring fans,

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Speaker 3: the experience. But this is definitely now my fun fact

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Speaker 3: about me. I have made fun of my mother many

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Speaker 3: times about this, how she let her oldest child put

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Speaker 3: on top of a giant sea creature whose name literally

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Speaker 3: includes the word killer. Not true trash parent behavior, because

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Speaker 3: come on, it was the night, stay sexy and volunteer

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Speaker 3: your toddlers for cool things, Emily, And then she says

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it. So watch Dark Water. Everyone.

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Speaker 2: We have to say it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like they Orca should absolutely be protected,

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Speaker 1: Now because they're trying to kill because they deserve it.

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Speaker 1: They're on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I have a dad lore Sweet Georgia. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: did you say dark water?

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Speaker 1: It's it called blackwater, Blackfish.

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Speaker 2: Dark Water. Blackfish. Darkwater is a Japanese horror movie, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Isn't it? I think it's a film starring

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Speaker 3: But it's from a but it's about chemicals in our water.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so blackfish is what I'm talking Can you

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Speaker 2: leave us all in by the way obvious.

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Speaker 4: Because this is great podcasting content, Okay, and rabet It's

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Speaker 4: called the Disney x trash Parent crossover.

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Speaker 2: You have been waiting for, Oh ladies. Sending love to

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Speaker 2: you and the Earm team from my sofa in Oslo, Norway. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we've been there. I'm currently watching you on Netflix. Congrats

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Speaker 2: and the Disney story from Anaheim made me rush to

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Speaker 1: Center I've been at disney Land. Yeah, I've been to that,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the ley ran off yep.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I ruined part of vacation. My parents

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Speaker 2: This is that. That day at disney is one big blur.

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Speaker 2: But I remember clearly the older man who kind of

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Speaker 1: I was just in a red chair. No one gave

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, my parents had driven all the way home.

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Speaker 2: To Meanwhile, my parents had driven all the way home

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Speaker 2: and Egel Rock is fucking to like. It's back in

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Speaker 2: is reasonable to think that the family I arrived with

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Speaker 1: It's definitely something you locked down beforehand.

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Speaker 2: Though, on the other hand, wtf mom and dad? Who

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Speaker 2: That's how? I also got a free night at a

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Speaker 3: So scary though I got lost during the day and

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Speaker 1: You know, I turned myself in and was found.

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Speaker 3: But the idea that you're there and then just everything

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being a loss. As a little

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, so my last email, the subject line is

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Speaker 3: Liza Minelli story.

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Speaker 1: Okay, race yourself. Hi'all.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in a New York suburb and I

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Speaker 3: spent my youth training to be a ballet dancer.

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Speaker 1: Wow well, well, well.

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Speaker 3: Among the many places I would take class was a

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Speaker 3: cast to play Clara in the Nutcracker at the New

440
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Speaker 3: York City Ballet. Oh wow, and it just this.

441
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Speaker 1: I was just like, Oh, it's it's her, She's here

442
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 1: to tell us some stories.

443
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Speaker 2: I had one called Angelina, who was a ballet dancing mouse.

444
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: Oh I know that book. Very cute.

445
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 3: This place also rented studio space to a jazz teacher

446
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Speaker 3: known only as Luigi Loie finally hit it dang edit

447
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: ning in honor of Georgia, about to become a part

448
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Speaker 3: of Italy folklore.

449
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Speaker 1: Get ready.

450
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: He'd been around forever and had a cult following within

451
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Speaker 3: the New York theater scene. Luigi actually has an amazing

452
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Speaker 3: story himself. In parentheses, it says major car accident, would

453
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Speaker 3: never walk again, self rehabbed, etc. Oh my god, please

454
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 3: tell us Luigi's story, Please time, Menery that shit, please,

455
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: I would love to hear that. Okay, but that's for

456
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Speaker 3: another time. Well make time. Little bunheads like me were

457
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: required to take his jazz classes during the school's August

458
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: Intensive program as part of our dance training, which I

459
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: was not thrilled about at first.

460
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: My twelve year old brain saw Luigi.

461
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Speaker 3: As a hairy, weird old dude, and he honestly scared

462
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: me a bit. But boy, am I glad I went

463
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Speaker 3: because his classes were unforgettable. I don't think I've ever

464
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: seen a more bizarre mix of people in such a

465
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Speaker 3: tiny space. Child ballerinas, random rich Upper West Side old

466
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: ladies in thong leotards, and massive beehive haired dogs. Please

467
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: let that be me young theater professionals and Broadway legends

468
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 3: like Ben Veren and you guessed it, Liza fucking Minelli.

469
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Speaker 3: One of our employees here, Craig Perozza, who we know

470
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Speaker 3: and love very much, who was also on Broadway himself,

471
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Speaker 3: concurs that Luigi was a very big deal who knows

472
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Speaker 3: who it is, and said that there's a there's a

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Speaker 3: line about Luigi in one of the songs, in a

474
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Speaker 3: chorus line. Holy shit, So this guy's legendary, legendary. Yeah, oh,

475
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Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

476
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Speaker 2: Okay.

477
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Speaker 3: So it says the adults were always kind and encouraging

478
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: to us in class and around the studio, but Liza

479
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: really stood out. She insisted we call her Auntie Liza. Oh,

480
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: I love her, and she'd chat to us in the

481
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Speaker 3: dressing room often wild no, often while naked. Oh no,

482
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: Liza about whatever she felt like talking about. But you

483
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 3: would have loved the theater department because standing around naked

484
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: was this thing people did to like where it's like,

485
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 3: it's natural and it's your body.

486
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: Always mean, I make people so uncomfortable. I don't fucking

487
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: give a shit.

488
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also kind of a brag of like

489
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm actually willing to stand around naked, and you know

490
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 3: that's that's theater.

491
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Speaker 1: The fact that she did this, that's amazing. She'd tell

492
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Speaker 1: us crazy stories about her life, ask us about ourselves.

493
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Our goals and dreams, or just monologue about shit I

494
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: definitely didn't understand at the time. I'll never forget her

495
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: encouraging us to go on and tell Auntie Eliza what

496
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: the young people are into these days.

497
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Speaker 1: While she was but naked.

498
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Speaker 2: Holy shit, she was just.

499
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: So kind and fun and I still laugh thinking about

500
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: her doing finger guns at the end of every combination in.

501
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Speaker 1: Justice Like I don't know she hear and Luigi.

502
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Speaker 3: I didn't appreciate how much she struggled with her mental

503
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: health and substance abuse until I got older, but that

504
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: only made me respect and admire her even more. She's

505
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: truly incredible, and I'm so glad I was lucky enough

506
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Speaker 3: to share even a little time with her.

507
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Speaker 1: Oh that's how.

508
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: Is it taking you ten years to fucking write this in?

509
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: It's I know, one of the best fucking.

510
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: You're so selfish, You're one of the worst listeners we

511
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 3: have because this is the story we've been waiting for.

512
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: I've been asking you for this, and god, damn, you're

513
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: kind of withholding.

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Speaker 3: I just would like to mention now if Lizman only

515
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: here's this. I got to play you in a musical

516
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Speaker 3: right about the New Year's Eve before nineteen eighty.

517
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Speaker 2: And you're the person I always pick when someone says

518
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: who would play you in a movie?

519
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, always you. Yeah, Liza where it's big.

520
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: Fans say sexy and treat Lismonelli like she's anyone else,

521
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: even when she's naked, and it signed h she hear,

522
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: And then oh, here's a photo h in costume for

523
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: a production of Petrushka around the time she took dance lueg.

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Speaker 1: And nanty Eliza.

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Speaker 2: A little baby, amazing, amazing, great job. Okay, here's my

526
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: last one. I'm a huge fan and longtime listener. I

527
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: heard your call for dad, Laura, and I wanted to

528
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Speaker 2: tell you one of my favorite stories about my awesome dad.

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Speaker 2: It was nineteen sixty eight and Dennis was twenty years

530
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: old living in the Band district of Richmond, Virginia. He

531
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: had a day job working for an engineer, but at

532
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: night and on the weekends he would play in a

533
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: band and do odd jobs. One night, he was asked

534
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Speaker 2: to deliver a brand new Pearl Vox Phantom guitar to

535
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: the Mosque Theater near his apartment. It was a guitar

536
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: for the one and only Jimmy Hendrix Shit, who was

537
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: playing a show that night. Dennis knocked on the stage

538
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: door and told the dorman that he had a delivery

539
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: for the band. The doorman looked at him, looked at

540
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: the guitar, and said, I'll take it from here. But

541
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: this was a big effing deal, and so my dad said,

542
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: no way, I have to deliver this myself. The doorman

543
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: let him backstage and went to find someone from the

544
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: band to receive the guitar.

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00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: Oh you can't fucking just hand a guy at the

546
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: door something that precious.

547
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Or so the stage hand thought.

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00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: Ooh.

549
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: In actuality, my dad had spent months saving up for

550
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Speaker 2: his very own pearl white Vox Phantom, the same guitar

551
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: Brian Jones from The Rolling Stones played. I'm told he

552
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: had finally purchased the guitar when he found out that

553
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hendrix was coming to town. He simply couldn't afford both.

554
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: So he thought on his feet and boop opped the

555
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: stage hand into letting him backstage, just held up his

556
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: own guitar. Yes, that's like the thing of like if

557
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: you walk in somewhere, like carrying a step ladder, you

558
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: can get it anywhere, or a clipboard a clipboard too. Yeah,

559
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: from there and what must have been the absolutely most

560
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: anxious moments of his entire life. No, he's a white man.

561
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: It gets way with fucking anything.

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00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fine.

563
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: My dad managed to sneak up onto the balcony with

564
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: his guitar when Jimmy Hendrick started playing. My dad worked

565
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: his way into the crowd and watched the entire show.

566
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: He got both the guitar and the show of a lifetime.

567
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: Fuck epic. Thank you for reading the story. I adore

568
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: my dad home, Jim and Marty would love Dennis. He's sweet, funny, kind,

569
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: And then it says up grumpy and one of my

570
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: favorite people. I like to think that me and my

571
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: two sisters helped make him that way. That's what happens

572
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: to girl dads. But you already know that. Stay sexy

573
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: and rock on, Bernie. PS Dad, if you're listening, it's okay.

574
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: I know him the favorite and we don't have to

575
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: tell my sisters. And then there's a photo, says, a

576
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: photo of my dad as a grip at Rocks, Yes,

577
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: where me and my sisters were fortunate enough to watch

578
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: many concerts from backstage while our dad worked. Look at him,

579
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: Look at him probably like thirty in this photo.

580
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: This guy absolutely belongs backstage at a Jimmy Hendrix or

581
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: any other concert he.

582
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Wants to go to it. I want that guy to

583
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: be our grip on our next tour.

584
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: That's a guy that's like he's going to be like

585
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: he's going to know where the coke is, yeah, and

586
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: then he's also going to know where the really good

587
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: chicken strips after the show.

588
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Are totally, and he's got so much gaffer tape on him.

589
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and great stories, great stories, and he can drank

590
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: caken fun all right, Dennis, Dennis, we believe in you.

591
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: Thanks for doing a good dad job. Yes, if your

592
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: daughters are writing in to this podcast about you, I'm

593
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: not calling your trash and even and not yeah exactly,

594
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: you still kind of made it well.

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00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: Amazing.

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00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Those were great. Thank you guys for writing in. Write

597
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: your story, Yeah, for sure.

598
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Write your story. Write your dad story.

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00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: To us at my favorite murder of Gmail, it can.

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00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Be anybody's And now we go to Italy, Stay sexy

601
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: and don't get murdered.

602
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Goodbye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer

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Speaker 2: is Tessa Hughes.

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Speaker 1: Our editor is Aristotle Ascevedo.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Leona Squalocci.

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