1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Everybody's e j en Vy Jess hilarious, charlamage the god 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: we are the Breakfast Club. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: You got a special guest in the building. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Avery Spares. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Welcome brother, welcome back, welcome back. 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 4: How you feeling, man, I'm. 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 5: Good man, I'm all good man. Last time I saw ya. 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 5: You're always over on Hudson Street. 10 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 4: Absolutely that we haven't seen you in a long a 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 4: long time. 12 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 3: Like TV all the time, all the time. 13 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 14 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: You know, when somebody came in, like, I don't know, 15 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: Ay spears, he might be a little upset, I was like, 16 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: that's airy. That's how he always is. 17 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: He's got some misconception, upset by what. 18 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 19 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Maybe they walked in and they said he didn't seems 20 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: as lovable as as they were seem But I'm like, 21 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: that's aries. 22 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 4: That's how he is. 23 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: They don't you know, he's a lovable To the contrary, 24 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm very lovable. 25 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: I just keep an ice cube scowl on my face 26 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 5: because I don't want niggas to think they can come 27 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 5: up and say anything. 28 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: To me like I love you. That's hilarious, you know. 29 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. 30 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 5: I truly believe I've always been one of the most 31 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 5: misunderstood catching the game because I don't walk around, you know, 32 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 5: pulling a Magic Johnson smiling from temple to temple. So 33 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 5: because I got a you know, a straight, a kind 34 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 5: of certain exterior, there's that, and then people see me 35 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 5: in interviews and based off things I say, Apparently truth 36 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 5: is the new hate, you know, Opinionated is the new bitter, 37 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm just honest about what 38 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 5: I you know, how I feel about things I speak at, 39 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 5: how I see it, how I feel it, and people 40 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 5: misconstrued that shit for hate, which is ridiculous because I just. 41 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Come from an era where you know, you speak your mind. 42 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: You think you've ever been understood. Was there a point 43 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: where you were and then something happened and people just 44 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: started misunderstanding you or you think it was like that 45 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: from the beginning. 46 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 5: I just think it was like that from the beginning, 47 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And especially now because of 48 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 5: this social media age we live in where you got 49 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 5: to push it fire everything. Like I said, when you honest, 50 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 5: that just gets misconstrued. And just because I don't necessarily 51 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: go with the grain of the opinion that you like 52 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 5: that's viewed as hate. You know, It's like why I 53 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 5: got to always flow with the traffic, you know what 54 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: I mean. If I don't feel it, I don't feel it. 55 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: So that makes sense. 56 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: I think that in the fact that you so try 57 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: to state area in New York and New Jersey from 58 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: from the from the beginning, I think that's that's part 59 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: of it too. 60 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Bias as fun. But I admit it. I admit it. 61 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. People go, man, you you're 62 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 5: a New York nigga. You on like West Coast, like 63 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 5: no rapp of the thing. If they from New York. 64 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 5: I've given credit where I find credit should be due. 65 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: You know. 66 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 5: I love a lot of artists today't from New York. 67 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: It ain't many, but you know, I just I like 68 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 5: a swag man. 69 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: You know East. 70 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: It wasn't in beefing, no more like be cool with him. 71 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely. 72 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you know, I'm stumping in my in 73 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: my in my belief system. Yeah, man's certain certain rhythm 74 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: and cadence and delivery. You know, it is what it 75 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 5: is as. 76 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: A comedian, why do you think And I don't want 77 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: you to take this the wrong way because I've watched you know, 78 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: I come to your shows all the time and a wife. 79 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: Why don't you think you are not a bigger comedian 80 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: as I think that you should. 81 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 5: Be because my my mouth is my biggest strength, but 82 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: it's also on the biggest detriment. No, I don't have 83 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: to do it, No, diddy, I know who I am. 84 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 5: I don't play the man. 85 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't get in. That's it. You know what I'm saying. 86 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: All that I know who the sh That whole cause 87 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: thing to me is ridiculous. 88 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something like you might be thinking 89 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: about it. 90 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: No, listen And when I when I did Glad recently 91 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: we were talking about Denzel and I and I said, hey, listen, 92 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 5: part of the allure to a Denzel, especially in his 93 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: prime or Brad Pitt is besides the talent, they were attractive, attractive, 94 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: there's a sex appeal, there's a sexinist m and the 95 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: comments was, Yo, what's one thing to kind of say 96 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: a man is handsome, but. 97 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: To use the word sexy. 98 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 6: Get the fuck out of here, man, Imperial. 99 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: You ain't a sexy you said sex appeal? 100 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: No, I might have said, yo, I get it. I 101 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: know why women like him. He's a sexy guy. He 102 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: alludes sex appeal. That's the same thing. 103 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: The same thing. 104 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. 105 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: Man, you want to say something so bad, I'm thinking 106 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: about it, like what. I don't know if I would 107 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: say's sexy sex appeals? The same thing, like the same thing. 108 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you recognize what your My eyes ain't lying to me. 109 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I know what. I know what he looks like. I 110 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: know what attractive. 111 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: Now. The other day, then jumped out of car and 112 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: he was he's seventy. 113 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Now seventy. 114 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: Girls was losing their mind. I'm looking at him like, yoah, 115 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: I hope I look that good at seventy. 116 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: Telling Hunt looks seventy and she's not. Damn. 117 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: You know, white folks age like fruit nigga wants to 118 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 5: go bad niggas over. 119 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: They congratulated twenty five years of comedy, man, after long 120 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: thirty five thirty five five. 121 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: Year started when I was fourteen. Damn yeah, damn yeah, yeah. 122 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: How things changed? 123 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: Man? 124 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 5: Uh, I feel like it changes every ten years for comedy. 125 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: You know, I think that it's it's in terms of 126 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 5: its evolution. Uh, I don't know if it's as potent 127 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 5: as it used to be. Because now everybody with these 128 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 5: cell phones and the platform can get in the studio 129 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 5: fifty four. Everybody shouldn't be allowed in the studio fifty four. 130 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: You know. 131 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: It's it's it's causing, it's diluting the product a little bit. 132 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: You know. 133 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: I understand if you know the fifteen minutes of fame. 134 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 5: But substance makes longevity, you know, Substance makes a career, 135 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 5: you know. And I see so many of these flashing 136 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 5: the pants come along and some of it, I listen, 137 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 5: some of it is funny as hell, you know, I'm I. 138 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: Get caught up in the scroll matrix, you know what 139 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 140 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I know the 141 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 5: difference between the undercard and the main event, you know 142 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, come on, man, yeah, do. 143 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: You still have the same love when you first started? 144 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? 145 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: I mean listen, I I get frustrated at times and 146 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 5: the moments where I want to quit just because the 147 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: politics of it and the bullshit of it can start 148 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: to wear on you. But I'm in perspective, what the 149 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 5: fuck are are gonna do? This is what this is 150 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 5: my passion, This is what I do. You know, so 151 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 5: got to ride it to the wheels fall off. What 152 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: are the politics for somebody like a you know it's funny. 153 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: I recently did Tony podcast and I told Tony the 154 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 5: story where one night Chris and I. I never really 155 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 5: had a lot of interaction with Chris. We went out 156 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: to dinner one time and at the end of the 157 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 5: dinner he was just like, hey, man, I can give 158 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 5: three pieces of advice. Keep writing, stay funny, and try 159 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: not to piss these white folks off. I listened to 160 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: two of the pieces of advice, and, like I said, 161 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: my mouth is my biggest power, my biggest detriment. I 162 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 5: say a lot of shit that I think sometimes turns 163 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: people off. And again, if they don't know me in depth, 164 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 5: they take it for face value and they think, oh, 165 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 5: he's this way. But you know, again, if you took 166 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: time to really hang out with me and do some 167 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: self investigation, yeah, there's certain parts that I'm gonna commit to. 168 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: But I'm more than that than what you just see 169 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 5: in an interview. So, you know, the politics for me 170 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 5: has been trying to figure out how to navigate through 171 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: this mind fuck of what you say and what you 172 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 5: don't say. 173 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: You know, so you don't hold your tongue. So do 174 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: you ever get to a point where it's like you 175 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: scared of saying things now? Because usually some some of 176 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: the stuff that when we go to your shoes you 177 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: would say off the wall is it was funny, but 178 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: now that that awful? 179 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Well stand up I'm gonna always be that. I'm not 180 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: changing that. 181 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: But in terms of interviews, not that I'm I won't. 182 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: I don't like the word scared, but I'm gonna be 183 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: more strategic and how I say what I want to say, 184 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: you know, because there's a way to say everything, and 185 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 5: it's comics. You know, that's the brilliance of what we 186 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: do is to put that make shit smell like roses 187 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: if we choose to do that. 188 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm probably trying to think a little 189 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: bit more. 190 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: Is that because you don't maybe want to make sure 191 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: that you're not canceled and you're not on what I can't. 192 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: Really cancel you when you got the stage. I don't 193 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: think standom comedians can never be canceled. 194 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of stand up, no, But then you 195 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: know film and television where sometimes the bigger, easier money 196 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 5: is to be made that can be taken away from you. 197 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: But you know, this is why I love Dave Chappelle 198 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 5: so much. I don't want to jinx it, and I 199 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: don't think I am. But I think he's uncancellable, you know, 200 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: because he's such a force to be reckoned with. 201 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: Something you said does not make a lot of things though, 202 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: because the older you get as a comedian, do you 203 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: still want to be toring every weekend? Do you want 204 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: that to be the way you make money? Would you 205 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: rather be able to do something easier or like a 206 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: TV show? 207 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you enjoy it, if you enjoy it, 208 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 5: but you know there's levels to this. So if you 209 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: at the level where you know, instead of grinding out, 210 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: you know, three nights, six seven shows, you do a 211 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: theater for one night and instead of commercial you fly 212 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: in private, I don't think that ever gets old, you know. 213 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 5: So it's it's trying to figure out a way to 214 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 5: lessen the grind, you know, like I just started doing 215 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: data is now for the longest I've always done clubs. 216 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 5: But you know, between the date of the Garden, I 217 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: just sold out Toronto. I just sold out Boston at 218 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 5: the wilbur So. I'm you know, I'm slowly trying to 219 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 5: get to that point, you. 220 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: Know, doing the Hulu theater on the May eighteenth. A 221 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: lot of people know you from Mad TV, and I 222 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: always wondered because comedians, whenever they get it, enounce to 223 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: be like from comic view from death comedy jam. I'm like, 224 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: does that still matter when people still remember those things? 225 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Not not? If not? 226 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: If not, if you, if your position is solidified, like 227 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 5: I'll go places in the in the in the person 228 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 5: will asks me, he whis your credits? 229 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Just say Harry Spizz. 230 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 231 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Everybody here knows who the fuck I am? What the 232 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: so they need to know? Hey, I've done they know already. 233 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: I might have been watching you on Black TV for 234 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: the last ten I might be twenty five. 235 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, right right, right, right right? 236 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: Why do you think shows like mad TV, sketch shows 237 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: like that didn't have the longevity of like SNL. 238 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: Well, you know, other than SNL, Mad TV was the 239 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: only sketch show to have that kind of longevity. But 240 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: you know, listen, Saturday Night Live is the bully on 241 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: the block, always has been. Maybe if the powers that 242 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 5: be had kind of supported us more like like even 243 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: Fox didn't really support us like we we had some 244 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 5: of the biggest names in music, Wu Tang, Gwen Stefani, Missy, 245 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 5: and our lead into the show was the news. So 246 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: when they would finish their segment, they would just go, 247 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 5: all right, now stay tuned for mad TV, wouldn't it 248 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: Who's on the show During summer Fox's biggest hits, they 249 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: would never promote us. 250 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: No teas, no no tease, no nothing. So we we 251 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: just we never really got the support that we deserved. 252 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 5: Why, I don't know, I don't know. It just it was. 253 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: It was weird, man. You know, we were like the 254 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 5: bastard step child, uh to Fox on our own network. 255 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy that when you realize this is Hollywood, 256 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: think game for me because I'm being here cursing everybody 257 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 3: out curse. 258 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 5: No I you know, no, I mean listen, it's it's 259 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 5: part of what goes through the journey. So you know, 260 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: always said, I don't really know how this is gonna 261 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: end for me. But uh, as much as I want 262 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: to sometimes get discouraged, I'm not gonna quit. You know, 263 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: I'll die before I quit, or it may kill me. 264 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 5: But either way, man, I'm in it, you know, because 265 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 5: here it's funny, I just put as much as I complain, 266 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 5: it's not until you step back sometimes and you put 267 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 5: shit in perspective where you go, I have reason to complain, 268 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 5: But then I look back and go my life versus 269 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 5: the regular joes. 270 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: This is still fantastic. 271 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, the kind of money I'm making one weekend, and 272 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 5: you know, I don't have a boss. I can sleep 273 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: in all day if I want, don't have to answer 274 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 5: to nobody. 275 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: What's better than that? 276 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 7: And I said that to you, And then now we're here. 277 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 6: I. 278 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: Know you. 279 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: Like, what did you want? Like before before you took 280 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: a step back to look and appreciate what you have? 281 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: What did you want? You know? 282 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: I think that and I and this is one of 283 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 5: those moments WHI I'll say I I I hope people 284 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: don't think that I'm being arrogant when I say this, 285 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 5: but I think based on my skill level, I should 286 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 5: be getting as just as much or I'll say just 287 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: as much as Kevin Hard or you know, Mike Apps. 288 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 5: But again I will take responsibility for why I'm not 289 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 5: because again I I don't I step different. 290 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: You know, Uh, was there a particular step that you 291 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: know that. 292 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: Damn that you stepped on. 293 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: A case. 294 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I probably shouldn't said what I said 295 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: about Jordan Peel, and you know, and and and uh 296 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: even at one point, I remember Kevin was on here 297 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: talking about the beef with me and him and EPs 298 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 5: and uh yeah. You know, listen, man, when you young 299 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 5: and you brash, and you're in New Yorker and you're 300 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: an alpha dog, you you your ego. We want the 301 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: beach chess, you know, and that's always who I've been. 302 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: So now that I'm forty nine and I'm looking back, 303 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't. 304 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 4: Have you did the Cat Williams before Cat Williams? 305 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 5: Probably yes, yes, so you know, but like I said, 306 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: as long as I got air in my lungs and a. 307 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Shot, I got a shot. 308 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever spoke to those individuals that you know 309 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: you might have went at what. 310 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: You said about Jordan Peel? 311 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: Well, you know, there was a segment where Vlad had 312 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: showed an interview where Russell's Simmons had described them and 313 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: basically said, Hollywood didn't pick them niggas such and such 314 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 5: and such and this is how they and I was 315 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: saying based on my experience with them, it's like especially 316 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: it would fuck me up. Was when they were with mad, 317 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: especially Jordan's Kekan, you could always see what it was 318 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: talent wise, but Jordan was so quiet and he didn't 319 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 5: really bring it like that, so I didn't know that 320 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: really his superpower was writing and directing. 321 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: And I just said that, you know, listen, I said, yes. 322 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: They are black men. Yeah, black by pigmentation. But you know, 323 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 5: just because we got this skin tone, don't always make 324 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 5: you what this skin tone is. And they were very 325 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 5: I don't even know white wash, but they just you know, 326 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 5: the difference between just because you're a black man, your brother, 327 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 328 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: They didn't really have a lot of brother ship to them. 329 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 5: And then I'm like they both married the white women 330 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 5: and they carried themselves certain way. And but listen, was it. 331 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: This is an observation that happens to exist. I know 332 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: a lot of people in the comments are go, what 333 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: defines black. Let's not play that game. We know what 334 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 5: defines It's a rhythm, it's a culture, it's feel, it's 335 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 5: a walk, it's a sound. 336 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: But it's a difference between somebody that grew up in 337 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: the hood and somebody grew up in the suburbs. 338 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: They're still black, but they got a different I say. 339 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: All the time, I'm a Huxtable nigger. I ain't a 340 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 5: good times nigga, you know. I know there's a difference. 341 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 5: But even the Huxtable niggas, you could tell all legitd 342 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 5: niggas are doing. 343 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: The jazz hands got. 344 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: Evans was just as authentic as the Huxtables. But we 345 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: know these niggas out there, and I'm gonna say one now, 346 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 5: and and you had them on your show. I can't 347 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: stand Larry Elders. I can't stand that coon ass nigga. 348 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 5: I can't stand Kansas Owens, you know. And I love 349 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: when Dave Chappelle referred to her as a brilliant idiot. 350 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Because that's just what it is. Yeah, I know too. 351 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: She's articulate, she's intelligent, but use the wrong way, you 352 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Just just just like you, you're 353 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 5: intelligently dangerous. 354 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: So you know. 355 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: And and I don't care what Larry Elder says. I've 356 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 5: seen enough shit on him, read enough shit on him 357 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: to where I go. Nigga, Please, that's one of the 358 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: most tap dancing it's ass kissing niggas in the game. 359 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: Stop it, you know, get the fuck out of here. 360 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: So now you see I'm trying. You pulled me. 361 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Back here, trying to watch myself. Goddamn it, the natural 362 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: shit has happened. 363 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: I've never seen that with Kean Peel though. Well maybe, 364 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: but probably they don't discuss politics. I don't know. 365 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they have to discuss politics. But again, 366 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: and I know to the people that will sit here 367 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: and go, I'm tired of black people trying to define blackness. 368 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: Let's not play this game. You know, when you hang 369 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 5: around somebody and you talk to him and there's a 370 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: vibe and an energy, you know what that is. I'm 371 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 5: just simply saying they never gave off that energy. And 372 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: that was my observation. Whether one is to agree with 373 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: it or not, that's neither here nor there. It's funny 374 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 5: about that people. There was a point where people felt 375 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: like that about Dave. 376 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Early early, early on. 377 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: And you know what, when I heard that, that was 378 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: only because Dave had, like a lot of black comedians, 379 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 5: Dave's route was more rooted in like doing stuff that 380 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: white people saw that black people didn't really see. But 381 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 5: once Dave did the Chappelle Show, niggas came late to 382 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: the Dave party. 383 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Dave was always that. 384 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 5: Nigga but black for instance, like Martin shoe Martin, that's 385 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 5: that's biblical in the Yeah, that shit was biblical, right. 386 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 5: They didn't have that accessibility to black people the way 387 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 5: Martin did. But Dave was always a thousand percent nigga. 388 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: And then once Chappelle show came out, niggas went, oh, well, 389 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: waited nigga right here. Now they late to the party. 390 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: But real comics and real niggas know Dave've always been that. 391 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 7: So yeah, what so Comic View then and now I 392 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 7: never did come with you know what I'm saying. You 393 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 7: watched it, like, how do you feel about it being rebooted? 394 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: And how the same way I felt about Death Jam 395 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: being rebooked. Yeah, like you know that, and that. 396 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: Was something the explosion. And obviously Death Jam came before 397 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: Comic View. And I tell people this all the time. 398 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: What made Death Jam so explosive and it was it 399 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 5: was inevitable, was because prior to Death Jam, Hollywood only 400 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: allowed one nigga for a decade, you know, Gregory in 401 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: the sixties, prior in the seventies, Eddie in the eighties, 402 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: and black talent had always been out there, we just 403 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 5: weren't allowed to shine like that. So once America got 404 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: a chance to see a thousand niggas at once, it 405 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 5: was an explosion. Then followed behind that Comicview, but the 406 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: genies out the bottle now, so I don't. 407 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: Know how you captured that. 408 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: What was special then now on TV on TV, and 409 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: now you got this thing which is a thousand other options, 410 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: you know, and and you know when you did death 411 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 5: Jam or Comicview, you got on there because you earned 412 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: your stripes. It was talented. Now everybody with this platform 413 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 5: is a comedian. And I'm just like, damn like this 414 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 5: one nigga on on on Instagra, on social media, the 415 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 5: nigga that pulls the cereal on his head and the 416 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 5: milk in the walmart. 417 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: Have you seen this? He needs like a pep coach. 418 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: Like he goes in the Walmart and opens a whole 419 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 5: box of cereal and dumps the entire thing of cereal 420 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 5: and milk all over his body a mask. Well, he's 421 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: trying to get your attention. But while he does it, 422 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: he's telling you believe in yourself. What anybody tells you, 423 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 5: believe in yourself, you. 424 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: Can do it. 425 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: And meanwhile, in the background, you got all these people 426 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 5: in the store like, what is this nigga doing? And 427 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 5: in the comments, people are going, yo, man, look past 428 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: the milk and the message. 429 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: And he had a message. And I'm going, who the fuck, nigga. 430 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: If somebody's gotta clean that got to clean that, that's 431 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: not funny. And I said, nigga, if you really want 432 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: to be impactful with that same energy and that same practice, 433 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 5: do that at a police station. Yeah, go into cops, 434 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 5: NI believe in his house, put the cereal in the milk. 435 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 5: Do that ship at the at the police station. And 436 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 5: the people are saying, this is good. Not even come 437 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 5: to your house and do that shit in your living 438 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 5: room to clean up cereal and milk. 439 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: I want to ask you something about the nineties, man, 440 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: because growing up in the nineties, it felt like people 441 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: were not as sensitive as they are now. And I'm 442 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: not even talking about like it was a great eraror like, 443 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: and it felt like artistically people could do things like 444 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: we talk about men on film and I've seen people 445 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: give you, you know, flack for sketches that you've done 446 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: and I'm like, but that's how things were back then. 447 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: You're judging things on this era. Back then that was normal, right, 448 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: So it's like, what do you think happened? Even the 449 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: black men wearing dresses and all of that. 450 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, again social media, because everybody's got a voice. Everybody 451 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 5: believes it because they have a voice station be heard, 452 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: they're special. And the fact is everybody ain't special. Some 453 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: people are fucking dumb. Most people are dumb. Most people 454 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: don't have talent. Most people, you know, they be quiet, 455 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: you know, And everybody's got a chance now and because 456 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 5: of that, we have to protect and respect everybody's feelings 457 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 5: and thoughts. So it's taken away from the purity of 458 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: being able to just keep what's special special. You know, 459 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: it's oversaturated. You know, it's horrible. 460 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: Where did that come from? Though? Like, where did that pivot? 461 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: Where did that shift happen to? Where like the things 462 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: that were being done in the nineties that were just funny. 463 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: I guess when did that become like a thing where 464 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: that black man sold out if he were addressed to 465 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: get on you know, I don't know where This boogeyman 466 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: theory has always existed within the black community about men 467 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: in dresses when men in drag has always been a 468 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: staple in comedy from day one, and my whole thing 469 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: was listen man. Again, Let's let's have it in perspective. 470 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: First of all, that is a comedic thing. 471 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 5: And when you look at all the prominent black men 472 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: in Hollywood, both comedians and dramatic actors, we have far 473 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 5: more black men not in dresses than we do. And 474 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 5: when you look at I could go down list of Denzel, 475 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 5: Sam Jackson, Van Raims, fucking Wesley Snipes, and it's like 476 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 5: we've played everything from lawyers, the judges, to cops, the superheroes, 477 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 5: loving fathers, loving husbands, everything under the sun. How many 478 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: of those have been in dresses. None of the dramatic actors. 479 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I know Wesley did Touwongfu, but other than that, yeah, Denzel, 480 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: this person that they ain't never been in the dress. 481 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: But even the comedians who have, let's not play this game. 482 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: It's like, if you're gonna tell me on one end, 483 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 5: it's the mean black man. And that's some bullshit. So 484 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: we now taken the glory away from Jamie Fox Oscar 485 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 5: Winners singer, one of the best actors in the game, 486 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 5: because y'all loved him when he was Wanda you Love 487 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 5: Martin when it was Biblical Mama Paine, the Big Mama series. 488 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 5: So do we take the legend of Flip Wilson and 489 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: throw that away when he was on a show at 490 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 5: a time when black people weren't on TV and he 491 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 5: gave us a platform where we couldn't be seen. Do 492 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 5: we take the iconic status away from Eddie Murphy? You 493 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 5: know the clumps Mama Clump resbuseitsche bryor the greatest comedian 494 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 5: of all time as the Maid and the toy. So 495 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: come on, man, let's not do that. And if any 496 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 5: of these niggas came to your city to perform, you 497 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: ain't buying tickets going you going, so stop it, man. 498 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: And everybody you named this is like top tier legendary talent. Yes, 499 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: like that person would have made it regardless, Yes, yes, 500 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: and again in perspective, you've seen them in a dress 501 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: maybe here once or there twice. 502 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: In a movie. 503 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: Look at their body of work. Most of it is 504 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 5: not in a dress. So as long as the scales 505 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 5: tip a certain way, yo, we can have a little 506 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: bit of that for comedic purposes. You know, Tyler Perry. 507 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: Motherfucker's a Juggernauts, got. 508 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: A whole studio, helps to employ a lot of black folks, 509 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: And now we're gonna deny ourselves a piece of a 510 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 5: potential pie because he wore a dress. 511 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: It made him who he is. 512 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 5: Now he can use that money to funnel back into 513 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 5: our communities and build us up. 514 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: So what are we fighting? 515 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: Right? 516 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's fucking ridiculous to me. 517 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 3: Our stand up specials? How do you make stand up 518 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: special special? 519 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Nowadays? 520 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: I just think it starts with the talent. If the 521 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: talent is special, the rest takes care of itself. So, 522 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 5: like I like that great quote by jay Z I 523 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 5: forget the uh the documentary when he performed at the Garden, 524 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 5: the back to the backstage, Yeah, and he said, uh, 525 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 5: just getting the boofly they throw a crack at guard 526 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 5: and so you know, get on stage, do what you do, 527 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 5: and that's gonna take care of everything else. He gave 528 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: you the talent, so you know, use it. 529 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 530 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 7: I also say, what makes some special is not giving 531 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 7: him out that just anybody. 532 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You don't give It's. 533 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 7: Like because I like I like, I do like raw comedy, 534 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 7: I do like styles from like back in the day, Like, 535 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 7: you know, I do like that, but when it seems 536 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 7: like it's too commercial, like for instance, that last piece 537 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 7: of that third piece of advice that you said Chris 538 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: gave me trying not to pisch white people. If you 539 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 7: can actually see that in a lot of black specials 540 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 7: when they trying and tiptoe around stuff. 541 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. 542 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 7: I don't like that because then it doesn't allow you 543 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 7: to be creative. And then what doesn't piss And it's 544 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 7: not even just white people, it's all these different you know, communities. 545 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 7: Now everything is so since everybody's so sensitive, it's like, 546 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 7: because I really, at one point, like I really really 547 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 7: want it like a special and I'm not saying I 548 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 7: don't now, but it's like, Yo. 549 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: You wanted to be special. 550 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 7: I wanted to be special, and I don't want to 551 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 7: water myself down just to get that. 552 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: Well, I think number one, I don't think you have to. 553 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 5: You know, I think part of what makes it special 554 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 5: too is you ain't got to pump out five specials 555 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: in a month. 556 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's so many of these dudes. 557 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: On Netflix who got like DDN, you just have one, 558 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 5: they got another one, And I'm like Jada cooking the 559 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: bird up. Slow cook it, slow man, you know. Uh, 560 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 5: And again this is the genius of Dave. Though of 561 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: all the specials he put out, the only one I 562 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: really didn't like a lot was the one in the 563 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 5: Belly Room. But all these other ones, I can't remember 564 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 5: the name, but he did it at the comedy Store, 565 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 5: but it was just him in the belly room. 566 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: But all the other ones, uh, were potent. 567 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 5: But Dave's a potent motherfucker. But there's so many of 568 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: these dudes who might not be as potent. But because 569 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 5: the opportunity is there, or the money is there, they want. 570 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: To put out these specials, you know. 571 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 5: And I'm just like I would rather I would say, 572 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: you know, put out fewer and make sure that the 573 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: ones you put out of fire. 574 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: Oh but I think they follow with Dave because Dave 575 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: puts out a couple of specials. 576 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: But Dave, like you said, it's funny. 577 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: But Dave's Dave, and I ain't a whole lot of motherfuckers? 578 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: Can can you know? 579 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: Rock like that? 580 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 5: You know, if he was still alive, I said, the 581 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 5: only comic who could rival Dave is Patrise. So if 582 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: Patrice hadn't passed or I. 583 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: Mean I ran into him. I didn't see him on stage, 584 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: like I knew him from like he used to be 585 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: on that Vage one show all the time, and like 586 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 3: I would hear him. 587 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 588 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 5: You saw specials though, right in the room, not in 589 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 5: not in full, oh god, elephant in the room, his 590 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: album Mister p even his half hour Comedy Central special. 591 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: That motherfucker was a monster. I mean, he liked Dave. 592 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: You're gonna say, what the fuck he's gonna say, You're 593 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: not diluting his comedy cocaine. 594 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: It's pure that what I'm saying. One I remember him saying, 595 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: I forgot what radio show he was. He was like, 596 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: one day we're all gonna be working for Patriai. Yeah. 597 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 5: There are three great quotes about three legendary comics that 598 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: that I think is the credo that we live by. Uh. 599 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: George Carlin said, Dave Chappelle said, you don't know what 600 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: the line is in comedy until you cross it. Dave said, 601 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 5: George said, you should know where the line is in 602 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 5: comedy and deliberately cross it. And then Patrice said, good 603 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 5: comedy leaves half the audience laughing the other half horrified. 604 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: I think those are both three lines we got to 605 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 5: live by, you know, as crazy as Roseanne barr is. 606 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 5: I remember I read this one book and I can't 607 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 5: remember exactly how she said it, but to paraphrase, she 608 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 5: was just like, it is our job and duty to 609 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 5: say what the fuck we feel, especially when we know 610 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: this is a platform where we're supposed to be allowed 611 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 5: to do that, and people live vicariously through us, which 612 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 5: is why they love comics, because we say what they 613 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 5: think and what they feel but they can't. So if 614 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: that is an escape that people must have, which it is, 615 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 5: we got to do our job. 616 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Man. 617 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 5: You know, by the way, I just wanted to always 618 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: tell you you got some of the most gorgeous lips 619 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 5: I've ever seen. 620 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, I appreciate that. 621 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 5: Man. 622 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: You are a guy. I very am. Really, I'm a 623 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: aries I'm a romantic too. I'm good with it. 624 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 5: Thanks. 625 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty four. Can you say that without potentially 626 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: getting canceled? 627 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: You've got some very If there was some dynamite strap 628 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 5: to me with a time and I had to say 629 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: that ship before the time went out, or I would explode, 630 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: I'd be a dead. 631 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't know enough. 632 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 5: And as a woman, I would think that if I'm 633 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: trying to do that, your pussy would dry up. 634 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: You know you're supposed to say to get me wet. 635 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 4: I was gonna say the other think comedy to get 636 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: back to the era of. 637 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's I don't know if it's 638 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: to be like like we would go to you would see. 639 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 5: I think I think Dave, especially with that special we 640 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 5: did about the whole transgender thing, because that was all 641 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 5: about the trend. He can lead the way, but in 642 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: order for that to work, all the other big comics 643 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 5: got to get behind that movement. He can't be a 644 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 5: solo dude trying to push us forward. But if the 645 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: bill Birds and the Sarah Silverman's and and Kevin Hart's 646 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: and the mic Apps, if everybody said fun this within 647 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: the comic community, we bringing it back of this. No 648 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 5: Burt duns, I'm saying. But more than him. You know, 649 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 5: Mark couldn't be out there with just him and Reverend Abernathy. 650 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 5: You need all the niggas behind that. 651 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: You got the guy like Andrew Schultz. Now, don't give. 652 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Me Jolts is a beast. 653 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: You know, Schultz is a beast, the Shane Gillis is 654 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: of the world. Right, don't know that those guys give 655 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: a fuck. I mean they're white, but right, they don't 656 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: give it. That also is a key factor that I 657 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: think those don't give a fuck. 658 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: Calos Miller yeh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, that there's 659 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 5: a small group. Uh, but I'm just saying it's the masses. 660 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: I feel like that's something we all got to get behind, 661 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: even if you're not that kind of comic in the 662 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: name of what we do in this community, how could 663 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: you not support it. 664 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: You haven't done a specially since what twenty sixteen. 665 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Netflix won't fuck with me. 666 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 667 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Flex won't fuck with me. 668 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: Is there a reason they have? They told you a reason? 669 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: Just you know again, you know, one thing about Hollywood 670 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: is uh And this is why I say, you know, 671 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 5: no one does self investigation. 672 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: This ship is very high school. You know, clicks, just clicks. 673 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: You know, the gods sit with the gods, the preps, preps, 674 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 5: jock jocks, and people don't take the time to go, hey, man, listen, 675 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: I know what I heard, you know, perception, But let 676 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: me holler at you, let me let me feel you 677 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 5: out myself and then they can go Listen. I don't 678 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 5: know what experiences those people had, but the vibe I'm getting, Yo, 679 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 5: you're cool. 680 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: Mo fucker. No one does that, and how they go 681 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: off for what they hear. 682 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also a dig riding business though. 683 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: Well, ditch sucking and ride. 684 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 685 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: So when you sell out the Hulu theaters and you 686 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: keep doing these theaters, they'll be knocking at. 687 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: You out and that's listen. I listen. 688 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck how it happens, whether I 689 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: if I can't get through the front, whether I got 690 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: to go around over under. As long as i'm the 691 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 5: roads in the concrete, then I've done my job. So 692 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 5: my path and my journey may definitely take longer and 693 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: be harder, but that don't make it all worth it. 694 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: Once I do what I need to do, get to 695 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: where I need to get. 696 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: I respect the fact that you got such self awareness 697 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: because a lot of people forty nine years old, they 698 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: still be holding on to it's that person's fault and 699 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: that person listen. 700 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 5: Let's not get it misconstrued. Some of the shit in 701 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: this game can can cause you to you know, but 702 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 5: I have done some things that I regret. I have 703 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 5: done some things. Maybe I suldn't, but it don't take 704 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: away from the fact that there's still the politics of this. 705 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 5: There's still the racism of show business. And maybe and 706 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: listen again, I started when I was fourteen. I was 707 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: in Hollywood and was doing Mad TV at twenty two, 708 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 5: had done Death Jam with Martin at sixteen, show Time 709 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: at the Pollowup seventeen for a broke nigga that come 710 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 5: from the West Side of New York and Hell's Kitchen 711 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 5: to go to Hollywood at seventeen and make a million 712 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 5: dollars before I'm twenty one and get network deals and 713 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 5: see all of this. 714 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: This business is that'll fuck you up. If you ain't ready, 715 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to lose your mind. 716 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: They should have a contract. He's going to lose his 717 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 5: mind at least one. You gotta This is all new 718 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 5: to me. I'm the most successful, you know, richest person 719 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 5: in my family. So who prepped me for this? Nobody 720 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: prepped me and said, hey, I remember Norm Nixon used 721 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 5: to be my manager. He was my first manager when 722 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 5: I moved out to LA and I remember he took 723 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: me to Miami and I was probably like, you know, 724 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 5: eighteen and I ain't had no money on me, knowing 725 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 5: that manager's travel or no, no, no, Norm, Debbie Allen's husband, 726 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, yeah, And I remember I said Norm, hey, man, 727 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 5: let me get ten dollars. 728 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: He goes, WHOA. 729 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 5: As a man, you don't ever leave your house without money. 730 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 5: My father didn't teach me that, but Norm did. 731 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: So it was like again, I had nobody to pull my. 732 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 5: Coketail and go, hey, hey, you you were in Hollywood 733 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: and you black don't. So I'm doing everything for the 734 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 5: first time on my own. So yeah, I made some mistakes, 735 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: you know, but it is. 736 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: What it is. Have you ever apologized to anybody? Oh 737 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 3: of course, yeah, like Kevin or any of those guy 738 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: behind it. 739 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 5: Not Kevin, but Apion and Pharaoh. I said, I said, look, man, 740 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 5: if I came off a certain way or made y'all 741 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: feel a certain way based off of maybe something I 742 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 5: didn't say, that I should have said my bad, like 743 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 5: I learned with Tony when I messed with him for 744 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 5: the first time, I said, Tony, I'm gonna be honest 745 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 5: with you. Man. I'm surprised you even had me on 746 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: because for a long time I didn't even think you 747 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: liked me, and he goes, dude, I'm gonna be honest 748 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 5: with you, it's not that I didn't like you, matter 749 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: of fact. And he brought up this story that I 750 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: didn't remember. He goes, we did a gig in Seattle 751 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 5: one time, me and you and I forget the other 752 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: name of the comic. He goes, we all sitting in 753 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: a limo and the whole time I wanted to talk 754 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 5: to you, and I'm like, oh shit, that's Harry Spears. 755 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 5: And I said, I never knew you had that kind 756 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 5: of respect for me or even liked me, because and 757 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 5: we're two New York niggas, so Tony's got his bravado too. 758 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 5: But Tony said, dude, I always was a fan, but 759 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 5: you always looked so stand offish, and you didn't smile, 760 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 5: you didn't really talk to people. Maybe if you saw him, 761 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: you did that, and that was it. So I kind 762 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 5: of just thought you was like most people use that 763 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 5: asshole and there was nothing he was basing that off. 764 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 5: Like I said something to him. I disrespected them. But 765 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 5: that's always been who I've been. I've always just been. 766 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 5: When I'm not on stage, I'm quiet, man, I'm very 767 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 5: reserved unless I really know you, and then if I 768 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 5: know you, we could, you know, turn it up. 769 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I don't say much. 770 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: I've always been like that as long as it's always 771 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: been like the. 772 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: Issue with Avion, like the whole sketch thing. 773 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: No, I just, I just I just again said, because 774 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 5: I think in passing I would see a peon and 775 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 5: Pharaoh and I would just kind of like. 776 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: That's it. 777 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: Did you have a King of New York mentality like 778 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a rap, like I'm the best rapper? 779 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: A lot like that. He would go to the club 780 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: and say nothing. 781 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 3: Everybody's even if they. 782 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: Club. 783 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 5: And you got to understand something like in the nineties 784 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 5: when mad TV was at it, heyday, I'm in my twenties, 785 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 5: I'm making good money, I'm famous, and I was in 786 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 5: a lot better shape. 787 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: I will slim, trim hands, mass nigga. 788 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: I was getting a lot of pussy be So between 789 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 5: all of this coming at me at once, you couldn't tell. 790 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: Me ship I had some brad so but you know, 791 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: life is you. 792 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, And you still but the crazy 793 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: party that you say, life is humble you. But it's 794 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: not like you're doing bad in any way. 795 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: I just you know, I'm just I realized taking a 796 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 5: step back, looking going, you could have just stepped different, 797 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 5: a little different, you know, may say hello more and 798 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 5: engage more, you know, uh, And I wish I had 799 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 5: done that. 800 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 7: But you know, she was like beings a comedy like 801 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 7: bean Comedy, Tony Rocks. You never smiled, like another man said, 802 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 7: you never. 803 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: Smile at that moment, And everybody in the comments was like, yo, 804 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 5: it's dope. How Charlamade is so unbothered like you didn't like, Okay, yeah. 805 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 6: He's been doing a lot. That's why at least twenty 806 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 6: times before man is Beanie Siegull. 807 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: It's like, oh wait, I want to see Beanie turning 808 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: up a little bit right and let me. 809 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 5: And it's funny because talking about perception, and I got 810 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 5: to ask you because early on, especially the first time 811 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: I did the Breakfast Club, there was always this pre warning, yo, man, 812 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: careful Charlamagne, Charlamagne, try to purposely say things to So 813 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 5: the first time I came here, I was talking and 814 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: I was just when try to. 815 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: And you never did because I don't do that. 816 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 5: And now on the second time, I'm going, well, he's older, 817 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 5: I'm older, and I'm still not sensing this perception that 818 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 5: you this dude who's gonna purposely. 819 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: Try to It's never been there, like I think like 820 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: you in a lot of ways, just like honesty, I'm 821 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 3: asking honest question right, people react how they want to 822 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: react to it, but I'm never in purposely like all 823 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: my disrespect this person, I almost say something to get 824 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: this person called up. 825 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: Nahr. 826 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 7: And another thing is he don't like to leave shit alone, 827 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 7: like if somebody if he thinks you bullshitting' about an 828 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 7: answer to here, asks you again another way. 829 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: See, I respect that, though I. 830 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 5: Respect that, though you know again I'm direct, you know, 831 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 5: and and and and in this pussy era we live 832 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: in direct honesty confidence. Those are all bad traits. And 833 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 5: I never understood that. You know, I love Muhammad Ali 834 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 5: to death. You know, I'm handsome, I'm I'm pretty, I'm fast, 835 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 5: and I can't possibly be beat. That man made niggas 836 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 5: at that time feel like they was worth something, you know. 837 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 5: And even though you know we far advanced past that 838 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 5: and we know were worth something, I mean, we still. 839 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Need to hear that, we still need to feel that, 840 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: believe that. 841 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: So you know, we had my gloup here yesterday and 842 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 3: he said he feels like comedy is a dying art form. 843 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 5: But I know his stance on Dave Chappelle didn't help it, 844 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 5: you know, when he came out with that, and I 845 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 5: listened comediically, if Dave was a musician, based on his 846 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 5: his pace, his awareness, he's Miles Davis and always said, 847 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 5: you raw a Carmichael. He has a lot of that 848 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 5: same rhythm. He's the lonely and spunk. So I have 849 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 5: a lot of respect for Carmichael. But when when When 850 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 5: after he came out and then he trash Dave kind 851 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,959 Speaker 5: of for the for the transgender special, I was like, dude, 852 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 5: you you're violating one of the biggest codes in comedy. 853 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 5: You're putting your personal ship over the art. You know 854 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 5: this badge that we wear called comedy and this oath 855 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 5: we've taken that comes before anything, and so you let 856 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 5: your personal agenda and feelings come in. 857 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: Front of the cold nigga. 858 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: You don't do that. 859 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: Nah, he was wrong for that. 860 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: He apologized on breath because I gave me an'll get 861 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 3: a day for exactly what you said. Because I'm like, 862 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: if you a comed eventually you're going to say something 863 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: that's going to offend people, if you're going to do 864 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: something that's gonna un people wrong, right, and not less 865 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 3: than twelve hours, he had the joke that was a 866 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: slave reality show right about him. What was it? He 867 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: looked at his boyfriend as a slave master teaching him 868 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 3: how to read. You know, we didn't see that one, 869 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 3: but he said it didn't. It didn't. 870 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 4: They only took a part of it and it was 871 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 4: like a full on long. 872 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: He said, they try to sexualize it. It don't matter 873 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: about the setting. 874 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want to watch his show because you know, 875 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 5: me and my podcast partner we talk about everything when 876 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 5: we were like, you know, and it's comics. 877 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: We're interested to see his take on that. With that show. 878 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 5: Definitely watch it, watch it in context, listen context. It's 879 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 5: extremely important because I remember when Sarah Silverman got in 880 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 5: trouble for something regarding like kind of like black face, 881 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 5: and of course everybody rah, but contextually when you saw 882 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 5: what it was, you I went, it ain't what y'all 883 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: yelling about. So, you know, and I know sometimes black people, 884 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 5: as much as I love my people, we'd be the 885 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 5: first to. 886 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: Want to each other. Yeah, and it's just like, slow down, 887 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: what's the context and go from there. So definitely watch 888 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: the show. 889 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 5: I do a joke about where the punchline is basically 890 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 5: Doctor King getting assassinated. You know, now, when you hear 891 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 5: that first of all, that happened in nineteen sixty eight, 892 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 5: you would. 893 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Think, damn, that's so long ago. What's it? 894 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 5: But the way I tell it the audience, Oh, but 895 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 5: then the way I address it afterwards, and long story short, 896 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 5: it's a banger. 897 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: It's a banger. 898 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 5: So there's a way you can say everything. You know, 899 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 5: it's just that's the artist and if you're special, you 900 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 5: know how to do that. Anybody don't know how to. 901 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: Do that now, you know. 902 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: Lastly, I know that there was you was in the 903 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: news about a couple of years ago. I felt like 904 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 2: somebody was taking the old footage of you and taking 905 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: it out of hand. 906 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: Maybe not maybe with you and Tiffany had it. So 907 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: what happened with that? 908 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 5: If I can't get into that, you know, I would 909 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 5: love to because it's bothering me. Not too because several 910 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 5: Vlad appearances, you know, without fail, when you go to 911 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 5: the comments, there's the comments Man and Nigga talking about everything. 912 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: But that and I ain't never ran from nothing, you 913 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 914 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 5: So I want to address it, but my lawyer is like, 915 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 5: until this thing is finally put to bed, I just 916 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 5: can't touch it. 917 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: We understand well, Madison Square Garden, May eighteenth, the Hulu Theater, 918 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: get your tickets. 919 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 4: And we appreciate you for join us. 920 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 5: Brother you and can I also pump my podcast please? 921 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 5: Spears in Steinberg available on all streaming platforms. 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