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Speaker 1: signing in Tell My Boy Rashad to go to you know,

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Speaker 1: here we go. We're gonna start off. Hey, big weekend

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Speaker 1: for Bellator MMA. Not just the announcement of the move

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Speaker 1: You know, all right, Well the clothes on this, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where Machidah goes from here, but if

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Speaker 1: One may be with a little bit of revenge for

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Speaker 1: one of my friends. I mean, I've seen your shirt

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Speaker 1: list on Instagram. There working out with coach Leicster. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Hey? VC? Listen, All they have

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Speaker 1: It's Raddy, He's forty, come at it. He's a man

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Speaker 1: of like, all right, we'll wait for the facts, or

429
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Speaker 1: was it, hey, these things are piling up.

430
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of both. You know. At first,

431
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,239
Speaker 2: I was like, dang man, he's always getting caught up.

432
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: But then I thought about it, and then I looked

433
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 2: at h I looked at what they're saying, and I

434
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 2: looked at allegations, and you know, this is another allegation.

435
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's kind of baseless in a sense,

436
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's kind of you know, uh,

437
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, somebody said that he in decency, exposed himselves

438
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: to whatever the case may be. But I mean, you're

439
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 2: kind of McGregor. You're walking around. It's a circus around him.

440
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: When people get around him, they act completely nuts. So

441
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,959
Speaker 2: who was to say what really happened? Who to say

442
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 2: what he really did, you know what I'm saying. And

443
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: then when you start looking at the facts of the

444
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: whole situation, you know, he's on uh you know, he's

445
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: on the boat with the yacht with his wife and

446
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 2: his family and things like that. So when you when

447
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: you hear the heading of you know, sexual assault, it's

448
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: like one of those things like whoa, whoa, whoa. But

449
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: then you know, looking at the facts of the situation,

450
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: it's it's more of a headline grabber than than actually

451
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: meet to this whole, to this whole allegations, I.

452
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: Believe, Yeah, right before those allegations, I believe it was

453
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: the David for McGregor posted on Instagram a picture of

454
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Speaker 1: you SADA having found him out there rashot and hit

455
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: him up with a test and he made the joke

456
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: on social media that I'm retired, but obviously like he's

457
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: not really retired now enrolled in the USADA program.

458
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in that testing pool, you're not retired.

459
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: But what's remarkable is the fact that they went and

460
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 2: found him on the yacht and there's you know, there's

461
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: some people saying that you saw it, don't make their

462
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 2: way around to these international spots enough. It's just funny

463
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: that Connor McGregor make sure he gets fun you know, for.

464
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: Sure, arge stories of USADA walking in on the bathroom

465
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: on you or catching you with your pants down. Nothing

466
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: nothing weird here, No.

467
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: I mean they'll find you. They'll find you everywhere you go.

468
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: That's that's one hundred percent sure, you know. And they

469
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: they tested me a lot when I was fighting for

470
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: the UFC. No matter if I was in, you know,

471
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: visiting someplace, they'll just pop up and like, hey, we

472
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, we know you're here. And you know, there's

473
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 2: a couple of times where I didn't even think, uh like,

474
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: I didn't. I forgot to put in my whereabouts and

475
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: I got in try before that. But they find you housing.

476
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm McGregor. I'm really lamenting twenty twenty, right, we all

477
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: kind of hate twenty twenty. There's been some rough things.

478
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: Ever got the quarantine, the damn black panther died, Cliff

479
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: Robinson's not here anymore. There's been a lot of crap

480
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: going on, political tension, and I feel like this derailed

481
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: what would have been a McGregor UFC comeback. Now look

482
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: him coming back, Whether you like it or not. It's

483
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: not on the level of some of these more serious things.

484
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying when he walked in there and destroyed

485
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: Cowboy Serrooni, whether you believe that was a perfect you know,

486
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: get well gift from the UFC, or whether you thought

487
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: he was completely reformed, it looked like he was ready

488
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: to be busy and fight two to three more times

489
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: this year and get back in the title picture and

490
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: all that. And I get what the quarantine and the

491
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: lack of live gates at least initially did to the

492
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: idea of these big stars coming back. But Rashad, you know,

493
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: people get on us sometimes as journalists. Maybe not you.

494
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: You got the fighter slash journalist thing going, so you

495
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: got to, you know, another level of cool going on.

496
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: But for the basement peddlers like myself, mouth breathers, you know,

497
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're just a color McGregor's sleeper fan. Well,

498
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: you know we've talked about this before. The sport's better

499
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: when this guy is active. But I'm wondering if I'm

500
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: drinking the juice on the idea that he's ever going

501
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: to be an actual fighter again more than a once

502
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: a year giant cash in big opportunity habib or you know,

503
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: some GSP super fighter something. I mean, every day, every

504
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: month we get closer to him, you know, getting thirty

505
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: five and forty in terms of age. Rashad has that

506
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: ship pun intended officially sailed in your eyes, that we'll

507
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: never see McGregor again fight two three times in a

508
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: year and try to be an active regular fighter.

509
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I think that shit has sailed. I

510
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: don't think that we'll we'll see him in a regular

511
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: fight and row, you know, just because every single time,

512
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: you know, even one of his fights, it's just there's

513
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: so much that goes into it. There's so much that

514
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: is at stake, there's so much to be gained, and

515
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: each and every single opponent has to be mapped out.

516
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: And every time that he fights is a blockbuster. So

517
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: you know, if you have too many blockbusters in a year,

518
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: then they kind of ruined your blockbuster, right, So you

519
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: can't even put them out there that much. So I mean, yeah,

520
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: and then not and not for nothing. I mean you

521
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: have to kind of protect him in a sense where

522
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: you want to give him the kind of fights where

523
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: even if he does lose, it doesn't ruin his value

524
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: and that's where you got with McGregor. So I think

525
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's that's a pretty fair assessment. BC.

526
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: That is what it is right there. I mean, look,

527
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: more money, Rashad, more problems. Okay, yes, right, also died

528
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: shortly after saying that, Rashad, you did mention Blockbuster. I'm

529
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: looking for your ninety strategy when you would enter the store, right,

530
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: the great VHS tape store. We all wanted to get

531
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: behind that curtain in the back corner, right, because you

532
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: know what's back there, right. What was your strategy. Would

533
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: you sort of like run to it and just be like,

534
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't care. Was it like a casual Let me

535
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: look at the regular movies next to it and see

536
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: if anybody's in there.

537
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: I actually do it because most of the time I

538
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: went there, I probably I went there with my girl,

539
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: so I really couldn't.

540
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Well, you were living in a different nineties than I was.

541
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: All right, okay, we're getting there.

542
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

543
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: Well look, okay, you were a high school football star.

544
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: People forget that there along with the rastlin as well.

545
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: All right. Also in the news, on the boxing side,

546
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: it's Big Red, It's Canelo Alvarez. The Globe's biggest boxing star,

547
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: my number one pound for pound king. It doesn't look

548
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: like he's going to be back in the ring, Rashot,

549
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: anytime soon. This broke a day after we did the

550
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: show last week, so we didn't get into the impact.

551
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: But Canelo has filed a two hundred and eighty million

552
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: plus lawsuit against his own, against Golden Boy Promotions and

553
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: against Oscar de la Hoya, his promoter, specifically for you know,

554
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: broken promises, fiduciary douciality if you will, and a bunch

555
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: of other stuff, Rashot. I understand specifically his gripe with

556
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: his own. I signed a contract for thirty five million

557
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: per fight, and you're offering me half that because of

558
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: the quarantine. That ain't gonna work. I don't think you

559
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: know any court of law as long as the contracts

560
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: are written that way, are going to help out his

561
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: own in that case. But do you make anything And

562
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: we've known about Alvarez's unhappiness with Golden Boy over the

563
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: last year of the idea that he straight up suing

564
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: his promoter, do you think at age I believe he's

565
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: what thirty one that he could be or thirty I'm

566
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: sorry that he could be prepared for the possibility should

567
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: this extend. Let's remember andre Ward in his prime stepped

568
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: away from the ring for something like two years to

569
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: try to get out of his promotional deal. He lost

570
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: in court that ended up being a settlement afterwards. Canelo

571
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: can't stop winning titles and making big checks. You think

572
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: he's prepared to actually step away from that to win this.

573
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, and I don't think that.

574
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: You know, the De la Hoya Golden Boy promotion is

575
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: gonna let that happen. I think they're gonna try to

576
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: look to appease and try to look to amend the

577
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: situation as fast as possible, because you know, they know

578
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: they were wrong in a whole situation. You know, when

579
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: you know what happened was Canelo had a contract with

580
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: him where he decides where who he's going to fight,

581
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 2: where he has a last say who's gonna who he's

582
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: gonna fight. And then when the Zone came to the

583
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: picture of Golden Boy in the Zone had a contract

584
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: and Canelo wasn't even there when they had their meeting,

585
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: and in that meeting they discussed the fact that the

586
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Zone will have a say and who Canelo fights and

587
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: that's where the whole problem lies, the fact that Canel

588
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: is like, hold on, these these people don't got to

589
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: say and who I fight and when I fight and

590
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: all it, you know. So that's that's where the whole

591
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: truth problem lies. And I think that's something that can

592
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 2: be worked out because that having Canelo sit out right now,

593
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 2: everyone knows that's a lot of money to miss out.

594
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, look, it's bad for the sport too, right.

595
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: He he fights the two Mexican holidays May in September,

596
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: the old Floyd and Oscar schedule, if you will, for

597
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: a reason, and it became like boxing sort of, you know,

598
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: majors quote unquote.

599
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: Uh.

600
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: I think Canelo at this point has earned a Floyd

601
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: Mayweather level of control over his future. I don't think

602
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be easy to get out of this

603
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Golden Boy contract. I think it's more likely that this

604
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: was a larger scare tactic that they'll compromise and figure

605
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: something out. But I also think that if Canelo Alvarez

606
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: wants to do what Floyd did or do separate, let's

607
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: say what Miguel Coto did late in his career, where

608
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: he was only signing one offs with each promoter or

609
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: network to try to just you know, bargain out the

610
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: best opportunity. He certainly deserved that. This is the Canelo

611
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: Alvarez era in boxing, whether you've recognized it or not

612
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: post Floyd and Manny, although obviously both fighters still kind

613
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: of lingering in their own way. I mean, Canelo has

614
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: given us the best of the best. Yeah he he

615
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: he ingested some tainted meat, He's done some things. He's

616
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: got really weird. Tattoos were shot on the inside of

617
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: his left forearm, including one of his wife's eyeballs. Now,

618
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: I love me, my lady, Okay, I don't think I'll

619
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: getting her eyeballs on my left forearm. I mean I

620
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: have that kind of control on you.

621
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: No, I mean that means she's always watching you. Just

622
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: not a good thing.

623
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: The things with that hand, you know, doing here? What

624
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: are we doing here? I do want to say this though.

625
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: I hope he comes back soon. I hope we can

626
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: figure this out. But the most bizarre thing that came

627
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: out of this, it looks like the Zone's only stance

628
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: is they're claiming Now they haven't really commented publicly, but

629
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: we're kind of hearing this around the Horn through sources

630
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: that they're claiming that Canelo has not given them what

631
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: was contractually written, which is one quote unquote premier opponent

632
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: per year. Now we're shad they I think are arbitrarily

633
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: going back right and saying, well, we don't think Sergei

634
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Kovalev and Daniel Jacobs last year were premier, Like are

635
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you kidding me? That's a joke. And now they were

636
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: trying to say, well, you know, you want to fight

637
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Billy Joe Saunders, you want to fight Callen Smith. Those

638
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: aren't premier according to a source. And we've seen great

639
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: reporting from the likes of Dan Rayfield and Mike Coppinger

640
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: on this do Zones list of quote unquote premier fighters

641
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: at this point for Canelo, Argnadi, Gilofkin, Jorge Mosvidal, Habib Normaga, Meta,

642
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: and forty seven year old Oscar de la Joya.

643
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay, we got to decide on what we're trying to

644
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: sell here, and that's the discussion that needs to be

645
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: had here. We're just trying to sell buys or we're

646
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: really trying to sell the sport with actual, real competitors

647
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: that deserve to be in that position, you know, And

648
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they have to decide, because at

649
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I mean, you have somebody

650
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: who who's boxes and have the technique and just a

651
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: beautiful scale level of Canelo. You don't muddy him up

652
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: just by letting him fight anybody. You let him fight

653
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: the best. You know what I'm saying. You want to

654
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: put him against the best talent because you want to

655
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: showcase that. It'd be a ripoff to allow you to

656
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: not let him show the world how great he is

657
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: against other great talent.

658
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you could do may Maac by the way,

659
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: when Floyd's forty two and retired for two years, which

660
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: they did and it worked. You can't put Canelo out

661
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: there against Mosbit all right, Now, you can put him

662
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: against bi. He doesn't throw hands, you know, on the

663
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: level that he does everything else. I mean, the De

664
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: la Hoya things laughable though. Look, I do wonder if

665
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: we are headed into that direction, given the unhappiness between them,

666
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: but uh yeah that Look, this is his own and

667
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: and you know they've done a lot of great They

668
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: picked up a lot of below the radar, big time

669
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: fights and made it accessible for us. So we're not

670
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: out there getting the Russian malware, trying to track down

671
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: the illegal stream.

672
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: But uh nah' they can't get caught up in the

673
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: whole like circus type of promotion. Like that's not that's

674
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: not something you want to fall into initially, that's.

675
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Something they did YouTube Rashot they're the master of the.

676
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: It's like.

677
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: But look like Canelo doesn't have that reputation of not

678
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: taking tough fights. Did he wait out Triple G a

679
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: year and a half, yes, But outside of that, he's

680
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: always faced the best of the best. Fought Floyd when

681
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: they didn't think he should have, you know the story,

682
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: fought Trout Laura back then when he when he didn't

683
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: have to, just moved up to fight Covialev. I don't

684
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: care if you think Covialev is washed. He's a huge puncher.

685
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: It was a fight that mattered. So shout out to

686
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Big Red. He's done a lot of great for the

687
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: sport tattoos, you know. Notwithstanding, all right, let's roll on here, Rashad.

688
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: We gotta fight this Saturday night on the UFC side

689
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the fight night Las Vegas. That is definitely very interesting,

690
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: giving their history of as former teammates at att grudges

691
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: against each other and now some interesting pivotal let's say

692
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: positioning in the welterweight division, when Kolbe Covington, coming off

693
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: of that title loss, goes in there against Tyron Woodley,

694
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: who's coming off multiple despondent losses. Rashad. I think the

695
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: narrative here, despite Donald Trump's endorsement this morning on social

696
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: media of Kobe Covington, is is t wood cashing himself

697
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: out because his title loss to Kamara Usman, his subsequent

698
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: loss to Gilbert Burns. I just didn't see a guy

699
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: who wanted to pull the trigger. I could have very

700
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: easily have seen Tyron wood he retire, take an easier fight,

701
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: take some time off, figure some things out. He's going

702
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: right back into the Lions. Then against a game fella

703
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: in Colby Covington. What the heck are we supposed to

704
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: expect right now from t What a guy? I love.

705
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Give me some Tyron with that. I love that man.

706
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: Man, We're supposed to expect a dog fight. You know,

707
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: Tyron's fighting for his career, he's fighting for his life

708
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: as he know it, as he know it for the

709
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: last few years. You know, when you're in a position

710
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: like Tyron you're trying to, you know, go back in

711
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: time and try to, you know, experience what you once had,

712
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: and you'll give anything for that. And at that point,

713
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: at this point that he's at right now, he doesn't

714
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: believe that he doesn't have it anymore. He doesn't believe

715
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: that he's lost a step. He knows where his trouble

716
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: has lied, as far as just mentally not being prepared

717
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: going into the fights and not mentally staying on and

718
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: being distracted, having too many things going on outside of

719
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: his fights that pulls attention away. So those are the

720
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: things that you know, he knows. But he's fighting a

721
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: really uphill battle because now his confidence has been chipped away,

722
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, losing the way that he has against Gilbert

723
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: and against Kamaru. You know, that starts to beat up

724
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: at your confidence, that starts to beat up at your ego.

725
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: But he's been able to, I guess, rebuild you know,

726
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: himself a bit, you know, having training camp with Mosbital,

727
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: getting some mind wine from his coach Gene Thomas about

728
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: just you know, accepting that feeling, accepting that fear that

729
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: he has, you know, just you know, from losing like that.

730
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: So he's making the right steps, but he's going against

731
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: a very, very very tough Kobe Covington in a quiet Kobe,

732
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: a very quiet Cobe. Is it dangerous, Kobe?

733
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Well, I felt like, you know, this fight should have been,

734
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, could have been a giant sort of pay

735
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: per view type fight, but there's almost now buzz around it.

736
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: And I think, look, when you get a typical grudge match,

737
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: we were gonna expect a lot of fighting, you know,

738
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: and interviews and TV. We really didn't see any of that.

739
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: And I think obviously it's dumbed down or watered down

740
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: by the fear we have of what's left with Woodley,

741
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: because this has some some sneaky action potential here, especially

742
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: since Kobe is looking to use his hands more and

743
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: and I just don't have that confidence that he would's

744
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: going to go in there and let the hands go.

745
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: We talked about this in the passer shot. I love

746
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: his walterweight title run. I think it was very underrated.

747
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: He didn't get the support promotionally from UFC and Dana White.

748
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: They were always sort of fighting what he did on

749
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: that stretch and went in there and be each guy

750
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: from Lawler through till through Maya Thompson at what they

751
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: do best basically. But each of those fights, except for

752
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: maybe the first WonderBoy one, which was a draw, he

753
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: was the leader in those fights. He dictated the terms

754
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: in the game plan. He was almost like a front runner,

755
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: and I wonder if that sort of changed him as

756
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: a fighter.

757
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Right.

758
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: He didn't have to bring out the dog in most

759
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: of those fights because Job one game Plan A was

760
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: completely successful. When he was forced to be in that

761
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: spot against Usman and Gilbert Burns, it wasn't that he

762
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: tried and failed. I don't think he tried. You know,

763
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: there was a there was a there was a failure

764
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: to launch, there was the wires were crossed up here.

765
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: I hope that, knowing what's at stake, mainly his future

766
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: and reputation. To be really honest with you, I don't

767
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: want to see him go quietly into the night. I

768
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: want to see him throw some hands. And if he does,

769
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: Rashad Colby and Usmann aren't the same fighter. Usman was

770
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: able to ground and pound, and rag Doll Well Covington

771
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: have that same advantage potentially, should he want to bring

772
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: it out onto Woodley.

773
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I totally agree. And for me, if you

774
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: want to look and try to find the black box.

775
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: You know. If you say where things started to go

776
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: wrong with Tyron, I think you have to look at

777
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: the rap albums, you know. I think you know, not

778
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: to try to diss them or nothing like that, but

779
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 2: those are the kind of things that lead you from

780
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: doing what you're supposed to be doing. You know, not

781
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: saying that you can't branch out and broaden your brand out,

782
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: but when it starts to pull at your attention and

783
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: your focus on what you need to be focusing on

784
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: being champion, then that's when it becomes a problem. And

785
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: I think all those other things that Tyring getting caught

786
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: up with the whole Hollywood lifestyle, I think those are

787
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: the kind of things that start to really chip at

788
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: that armor of being a champion, because you can't be

789
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: a champion and be Hollywood at the same time. It

790
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: just doesn't match, you know what I'm saying. Like Hagler said,

791
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to wake up in a morning

792
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: train when you wake up in silk sheets. That's true.

793
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: That's true.

794
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't have silk sheets, but I'm sure that's true

795
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: with shot. Ronda Rousey did find out that juggle with

796
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Hollywood didn't work out the same way. It's gonna be interesting.

797
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. I love t Wood. I hope

798
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: he can at least give his best effort and we'll

799
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: see if that's good enough for Colby Covington though, because

800
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: his brand is sort of facing upward despite that title

801
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: loss to Excuse Me Tomorrow, in which they went five

802
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: vicious rounds before the late stoppage. Do you think this

803
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: secure is a title shot? With a win here knowing

804
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: that Gilbert Burns is probably gonna get the next word,

805
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: He is going to get the next one officially, and

806
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: then you still have Leon Edwards lingering around saying, what

807
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: else do I have to do?

808
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: I think it all depends on how he does this fight.

809
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, if it's a very impressive win, then people

810
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: are going to be calling for that fight with Tomorrow

811
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: right away. You know, if he looks, if he goes

812
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: in here and he looks super impressive and looks better

813
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: than Kamorrow did against Mazwro, then people are gonna be

814
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: calling him for that fight. You know, one thing about

815
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: Kobe's is the fact that, you know, people learned so

816
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: much about him in that fight with Kamorrow. We knew

817
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: that he was tough. He knew that he was, you know,

818
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: beating people by landslide, but we just didn't know how

819
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: tough to gauge his toughness compared to somebody like Kamoraw.

820
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: But in that fight with Kamoraw, we learned a lot

821
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 2: about Kobe, and we learned that he has not only

822
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: a lot of mouth, he got action behind it. So

823
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, people are starting to look at him with

824
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: new eyes, and you know, t wood is in for

825
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: the five his life. You know, it's it's it's really

826
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: it's really a tough position to be in when you're

827
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: in there with somebody who talks as much mess as

828
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Kobe and you just can't lose to him. That that

829
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: that has to suck.

830
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked they they used to sell the drama

831
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: between them much better back in the day in terms

832
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: of trash talk back and forth and Kolbe saying that

833
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, he made Woodley tap out and cry and

834
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: all that. Uh, we'll see here. It's gonna be a

835
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: very interesting about five rounds. I hope what he pulls

836
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: the trigger. I let's see some wrestling. I let's see

837
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: the t would have old make a little bit of comeback.

838
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: But as we find out, for Shot, it's not you know,

839
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it could be in your head, not in your body,

840
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: or or or you know, vice versa. You've been there

841
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: down the end of your career when yeah, you still

842
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: carry yourself as a champion, but if everything's not aligning

843
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: right right then you know, mind, body, soul, spirit, all that,

844
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: it is hard.

845
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: It is hard, Yeah, I think. I think Dean Thomas,

846
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: he did a post about it this weekend that really

847
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: just solidified what it is. You know that happens to

848
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: you as you get older as a fighter. He said,

849
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: when you're in your twenties, you want to fight everybody,

850
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: But then you know, as you get older, you don't

851
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: want to fight everybody. You know, you'd rather sit down

852
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: and buy him a beer or buy him a dinner.

853
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Just because you start to

854
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: cerebral cerebraly, you start moving in a different way and

855
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: mentally you just don't look at fighting the same way

856
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: and you don't feel fighting in the same way. So

857
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: at that point when you reach the same point, you

858
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: have to recalibrate you're doing it. You know you're not

859
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: doing it for the same reasons as you were doing

860
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: it when you started it, when you were much younger.

861
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: Now you have to recalibrate that and say, Okay, now

862
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm doing it for this and truly believe it and

863
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: get behind that belief like you did the first time.

864
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: Uh Rachad, this is a pretty damn good undercard. This

865
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: is like a you know, Applebee's two apps for twenty

866
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: dollars special type deal. There's a lot of little fixings

867
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: on here that I'm interested in sampling here. If you

868
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: had to look up and down, I'm gonna want to

869
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: know which storyline on the undercard are you most excited for.

870
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you right off the top. Don Serni's

871
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: coming off of four straight losses and he's going in

872
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: there against an absolute savage in this comin event against

873
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Nico Price. We've seen the cowboy Rashad. Just as you're

874
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: ready to mark him as washed and done, dig deep

875
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: and pull, I mean the Alexander Hernandez fight, dig deep

876
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: and remind you exactly who he is. I hope he

877
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: can do that here, because as much as Cowboy is

878
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: like you know, zoofa for life and the ultimate company man,

879
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: it's hard for them to keep promoting you when you've

880
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: suffered five straight defeats, especially many of them by knockout.

881
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a cowboy who's really gonna

882
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: pour it out in there, and this could be some

883
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: freaking violent theater. Are you ready for this?

884
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm ready for this, and there's definitely gonna be some

885
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: violent theater. I mean, first of all, Niko Price is

886
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: an absolute maniac inside the octagon. Just looking at some

887
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: of his highlights and some of the fights that you

888
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: know he's won, you know, he finds a way to

889
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: get it done in the most odd and most bizarre

890
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: ways sometimes, but he gets it done, and he's got

891
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: a dog in them. You know, he's one of those

892
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: guys that he likes to take a beating before he

893
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: goes in there and finish you off. And you know,

894
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: Cowboy has to find a way to not even give

895
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: way to any of that. You know, he has to

896
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: continue to put the pressure on right from the start

897
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: and dive into some of his game and some of

898
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: his tools that he don't really use. I'm telling you,

899
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: cowboy has the most amazing jiu jitsu I've ever seen,

900
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: but he doesn't use it enough. And I think if

901
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: he starts to use it enough as he gets older,

902
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: he can squeeze out a few more years or a

903
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: few more wins.

904
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, cowboy dad and his wife just had another child.

905
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: I forgot what they named it, like something outdoorsy that

906
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't make a lot of sense, But shout out

907
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: to the cowboy family right there for shout any other

908
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: stubblo head quickly jumping out to you on this card.

909
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Johnny.

910
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: Balckerback listen, listen colms that Shemaiah hands down to me,

911
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: hands down, is probably the best athlete fighter I've ever

912
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: ever seen in real life training. Wow, swear to god,

913
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not playing like like like I mean,

914
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: he's pretty dope, man, he's pretty dope. I was watching

915
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: him train the Catur's gym just a few days ago,

916
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: and his creativity, his ability, his vision and sight is

917
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: on the next level. Man. He's he's he's I mean

918
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: like he's. I can't say ever ever because of course

919
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: there's some great challenges, but okay, okay, it was a

920
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: long time. He's he's got some skill. I will say this.

921
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: He's he's. People should be worried about him.

922
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: We want to learn our lessons of over hyping guys.

923
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: We talked about this a lot, but he you know,

924
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, because you can have a Sage Northcut, you

925
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: can have a Tom Duke and Wi a Dohu CHOI.

926
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: You know, these guys are like, oh my god, they're

927
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: gonna be the next thing, and then it just doesn't happen.

928
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: But he does really have that sort of next level

929
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: thing going, not just his expression but the attitude for

930
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: him to so easily rip all these elite fighters and

931
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: call them out and laugh at them. I saw that

932
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: video where he dropped gustuson with a body shot and sparring.

933
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

934
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: What's interesting here against Gerald Meershart is they're already talking

935
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: about making the Demi and Maya fight for Chemayah and

936
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: Miershart not happy about that. He's taking the whole underdog

937
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: overlooking the approach.

938
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

939
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: That should make him fired up. This could be a

940
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: good one shot.

941
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: It could be definitely be a good one. I mean

942
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, uh, it will be a good one. I

943
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: just I just when I when I look at Shemaiev,

944
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: you know, he has an abillion the ground and we've

945
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: seen him just dominate guys on the ground and just

946
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: had that Herbie type game. But what I seen from

947
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: him at Couture's gym was like some ungboxed stuff like

948
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: he was. He was honestly like like doing some creative stuff.

949
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: And just the way he was moving in and out

950
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: his setups, his vision seeing things coming at him, it

951
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: was it was amazing. Man. I think that you know,

952
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: when it comes an overall game, you know he's he's

953
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: definitely top of the ladder in his weight class, and

954
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: soon the world's gonna find out.

955
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: This card also giving us a women's strawweight special Mackenzie

956
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: Dern and Random Marcos, which I can get down with

957
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: that every day of the week. That's not the only

958
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: big time fisticuffs this weekend. Showtime Championship Boxing back back

959
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: at you with a bang, and this is, as we know,

960
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: an absolutely loaded for the one hundred and fifty four

961
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: pound division Junior Middleweight, super well threeate whatever you want

962
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: to call it. Ninety nine percent of the fighters that

963
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: matter or under that Premier Boxing champions banner. We know

964
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: a week from next weekend, September twenty sixth, we're going

965
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: to get that double Charlow pay per view and specifically

966
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Jermel Charlo putting his title on the line against Jason Rosario,

967
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: who won those two titles at one fifty four by

968
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: knocking out Jay Rock Williams. Three of the four titles

969
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: will be at stake. Well, the winner of that fight

970
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: could be on the hook to face the winner of

971
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: this one on Saturday night, when twenty five year old

972
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Ericson Lubin goes in there against Terrell Gohe uh rashad.

973
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: This is a sneaky good matchup here at one fifty

974
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: four because coshe may have either lost or maybe not

975
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: always looked the best when he step up to the

976
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: very elite level. But I look at him as a

977
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: sneaky out, a guy with Olympic pedigree and experience, a

978
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: guy who can really box, and he's tough. I thought

979
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: he beat Austin Trout in his last fight, but he

980
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: got a draw. Obviously, the big new coming in here

981
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: is Ericson Lubin, the younger guy. But both guys can

982
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: win this fight. And when you're talking about the winder

983
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: being a mandatory for that WBC title and the fact

984
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: that the winner of Charlo Rosario is gonna have to

985
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: fulfill that mandatory, we're starting to put the storylines together.

986
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: You know, I beat this guy, I'm gonna have to

987
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: fight this guy. Divisions loaded. We got Aris Lundy Laura,

988
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: we got Jay Rock Williams, Jarrett Hurd, Brian Constano, Tony Harrison.

989
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: We got enough for like a twelve man tournament. But

990
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: how much have you seen rashot of the hammer ericson

991
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: Lubin Because this guy's hungry.

992
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: I've seen a bit of him. I watched a few

993
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: highlights of him. You know, he's got super fast hands

994
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: and just you know, he's got that dog in him.

995
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: You know, I think that you know, being knocked out

996
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: by Charlo is really kind of lit a fire under him.

997
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: And he's kind of got this mentality where you know,

998
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: he feels like the underdog. He feels like people are

999
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: counting him out. You know, there's there's nothing that's gonna

1000
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: keep him down. I was watching some videos when he

1001
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: was training, you know, during a pandemic and was just

1002
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: you know, mentally motivating himself. But you know, he's he

1003
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: knows that he talked himself into talked himself into this fight.

1004
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Calling on Goosha and just

1005
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: you know, talking all that trash and whenever you talk

1006
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: that trash, you have to train at this level. You

1007
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: have to because that trash talking that does not sit

1008
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: well when you got your butt wooed. Yeah.

1009
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: Look, Lupin is hungry. I have not heard this level

1010
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: of trash talk out of him before. I talked to

1011
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: him last week about this fight, and he's fired up.

1012
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: He thinks it's his time now to become the face

1013
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: of this division. We mentioned twenty five years old, and

1014
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: he now thinks that loss to Jamel Charlow in twenty

1015
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: seventeen first round KO, it was devastating, right, He now

1016
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: looks at that as a blessing in disguise, something that

1017
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: he ultimately needed to have happened to him in order

1018
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: to learn what he needed to learn. And since then

1019
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: he's bounced back three four good looking wins. He retired

1020
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: d H. Smith. He came in there against Nathaniel Gallimore

1021
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: in his last one and looked absolutely fantastic. Just shut

1022
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: him down. He's hungry and ready. He's got the big

1023
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: left hand. He called him the hammer for a reason.

1024
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: But he's a guy who could have gone the long

1025
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: Olympic amateur route and made that decision at what eighteen

1026
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: to Turn Pro originally promoted by Mike Tyson, and he's

1027
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: really working himself together. I love the relationship he's having

1028
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: right now with coach Kevin Huntingham. He's a tough ass,

1029
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: doesn't take no crap, has a history of working well

1030
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 1: with soft pauls like Devin Alexander. So this is gonna

1031
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: be a good fight because Goshet, if they make this

1032
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: a x's and o's battle, I could see him really

1033
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: banking some rounds and getting in there. It's gonna be

1034
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: up to Lubin to let that left hand go and

1035
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: be the aggressor and make a statement here. And Rashad,

1036
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, I can't wait for that Charlo Rosario fight.

1037
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: I love me some of these lions, only Charlo's, but

1038
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: Jermel is gonna have a fight. Have you seen this

1039
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: guy Banana Jason Rozario. It's a big right hand brother.

1040
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he does have a big right hand, and

1041
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: Charlo's gonna have to watch out for that, you know.

1042
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: And ever we're going against a guy with that big

1043
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: right hand has the ability to get you out of

1044
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: that one big right hand. You can be hot for

1045
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: the whole night, but you always got to make sure

1046
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: that big right hand. But Charlo is so defensively sound,

1047
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: you know, and just got that presence in the the

1048
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: ring that I don't think that big right hand is

1049
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: gonna be a factor. I think he's gonna find a

1050
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: way to neutralize it and just do what he does.

1051
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that, don't forget. September twenty six, Showtime

1052
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: pay per View. I don't know if you want to

1053
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: call it the intermission the halftime show, but MK's got

1054
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: your covered, your boy, BC Luke Thomas on the pay

1055
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: per view broadcast right seven pm Eastern. Start two separate

1056
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: three fight cards in the middle for a half hour.

1057
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna give yourself some morning combat. Okay, so how

1058
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: about that? All right, I'll wear my best T shirt.

1059
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Let's do it from the bubble Mohegan sud fired up. Indeed,

1060
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: that will wrap it up for our big topics of

1061
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: the week, Rashad. We now transition to a segment where

1062
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: the people speak. Okay, they want to be heard the viewers.

1063
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: The listeners were deep in their ear hole each week.

1064
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: It's time to hear dms from the full disclosure here.

1065
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: We have not been briefed on these so we're gonna

1066
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: do it on the fly here at DIP three eight

1067
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: eight six, gonna kick us off. So Rashad, this one's

1068
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: a little bit sexy. I like this with Dustin por

1069
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: having pulled out of the negotiations claiming that the UFC

1070
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: doesn't want to pay him to fight Tony Ferguson at

1071
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: UFC fifty four, sorry two fifty four and that co

1072
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: main event. What would be your ideal choice to replace

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00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: Pourier against Tony Ferguson. DIP has offered Michael Chandler or

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00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera as potential options.

1075
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: I like that Michael Chandler. I think that'd be a

1076
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: great fight for Michael Chandler to come into. It'd be tough,

1077
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: it'd be a baptism by fire. But at the same time,

1078
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: you know Chandler that has You know, Chandler is not

1079
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: the youngest kid on the block. He don't have time

1080
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: to sit up there and march his way all the

1081
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: way up through the U through the rankins and want

1082
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: to come in there and make an impact. There would

1083
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: be no bigger impact.

1084
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, a title challenger tomorrow if you won that fight,

1085
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean that'd be massive. Yeah, I'm still interested to

1086
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: see where this free agency goes, if Chandler and Bellator

1087
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: can come back to terms and we can get, you know,

1088
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: into making that rematch with Pitbull, or whether it's time,

1089
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: you know, at thirty four looking great, it's time to

1090
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: go in the UFC. This is as tough of him

1091
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: on the dream list of matchups for Michael Chandler to

1092
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: debut against. Right we talked about, Paul Felder would be great,

1093
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: Kevin future champion Kevin Lee would be great. Yeah, Tony

1094
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Ferguson would be even better. And if we can't get

1095
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: Poorier Ferguson, which I really think was going to be

1096
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: in the discussion for best non title UFC fight in history.

1097
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Really for shot, it's up there with Evans versus Rampage.

1098
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: Right first got his door off the socket. People forget it,

1099
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: did a million pay per view buys back when, Hey,

1100
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: they forget, I don't want to say back when that

1101
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: meant something. It means something today to do a million

1102
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: plus pay per view buys, all right, So shout out

1103
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: to that grudge match in the Power of the Ultimate

1104
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: Fighter back then in drawing ratings, give us a full

1105
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: disclosure here on the set of Tough with with uh

1106
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: with rampage Jackson, A was that door made out of

1107
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: anything but fly paper? And b did you guys really

1108
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: come close to breaking contracts and throwing in the in

1109
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: the tough house?

1110
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? That that that door was a cardboard door pretty much. Uh.

1111
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: They expect them to get broke, fighters lose all the

1112
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: time and punch them, so they make him pretty flimsy. Uh.

1113
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: And yeah we we Canna blows almost Canna blows a

1114
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: few times to the point where you know, Dana had,

1115
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, like put us to a side and be like, listen, listen, listen,

1116
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: we cannot have you guys fight at all because it

1117
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: was getting to the point where every single time you

1118
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: see each.

1119
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: Other, it was like on site, that's still the best

1120
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: season of Tough Now that's the heavyweight season, correct, heyweight?

1121
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: They had Kimbo, Roy Nelson, Mittrion, Showtime's Brendan Shaub checking

1122
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: it there as well. So yeah, you got did you

1123
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: coach job?

1124
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: And now yeah I did, I did, I did coach

1125
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: him coach shop. Yep.

1126
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: We'll forgive him for him picking Connor to knock out Floyd,

1127
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: but outside of that, we love ourselves some Brandon shop

1128
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: in these parts all right, uh rashad? Yeah, you know

1129
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: Ferguson Connor would be great. Not gonna happen if it's

1130
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: either of those names mentioned, if it's anyone from Felder

1131
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: to Kevin Lee. Really you can't go wrong here. You

1132
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: do want a really big one though. You want to

1133
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: reward Ferguson for taking the interim title opportunity and Sketchee

1134
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: on such short notice. Obviously, if either Habib or Geechie

1135
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: get hurt, Tony's gonna be the one who slides in there.

1136
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: So a lot of big things, but you want to

1137
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: get Ferguson something soon because I think the fact that

1138
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: he stayed out for so long was the main reason

1139
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: why he got smashed up against against Geechee. Like that fair,

1140
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: very fair. I mean not saying it not John taking

1141
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: anything away from Gege. I'm just saying, like I think

1142
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: that you know, the starting and stopping and just not

1143
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: being active is really what costs.

1144
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: This is the real show. We take things away from

1145
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: people on the show. Right, I'll take away your innocence

1146
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: if you watch this. Okay, thank you. Hey, let's move

1147
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: on from Danny from at Danny Warner ge Danny Warner Gee.

1148
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: He says, if Habib is so focused on legacy, why

1149
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: has he never talked about going up away class and

1150
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: doing the double champ thing? Ooh interesting, Rashad, I don't

1151
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: know if I've ever heard Habib say it or be

1152
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: against it. I mean, could you imagine him wanting a

1153
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Kamorrow Usman for all the marbles Champ welterweight pop.

1154
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: Nah? I can't because that that right there is is

1155
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: it would be too ego driven for Habib. But I

1156
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: think that you know, he's he's one of those fighters

1157
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: who you know, he wants to beat everyone in his

1158
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: weight class, and he doesn't, you know, don't feel the

1159
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 2: need to go up or anything like that. I feel

1160
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: like he especially since he has a relationship with Tomorrow,

1161
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't think that

1162
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: he would do that. I think if if it was

1163
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: somebody like GSP out of weight class, I think that

1164
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: would be the only exception. But I think he's he's

1165
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: trying to just solidify things in his own weight class.

1166
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: And look, Danny warner Ge has written this in a

1167
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: in a sense that it sounds like he's sort of

1168
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: taking a shot at Habib. I get it now. You know,

1169
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: there is a holy Grail element and becoming a two

1170
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: division champion to a degree. I also think it's been

1171
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: overplayed and bastardized, and more people have gotten opportunities at

1172
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: that than maybe didn't deserve it. I mean, look like

1173
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: that Holly Holm g Our fight could have gone the

1174
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: other way and Home could have been a two division champion.

1175
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you know that that changes their legacy too much.

1176
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Good god derandom me could have been a two division

1177
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: champion and shand bet Amanda that time. So you know,

1178
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: so Hudo got it at a time I didn't think

1179
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: he deserved it. Yet since then he's said, look, I'm

1180
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: one of the best ever, you know, fight me on that,

1181
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: and I think he's right. I don't think it's a

1182
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: slight against a BIB. He has the opportunity. Rashad and

1183
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: you and I talked about this at nauseum on our

1184
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: podcast that should he go the distance, beat Gaechee and

1185
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: then do that retirement about next April, whether it's against

1186
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: Tony Connor, GSP whatever. In this modern day era, good lord,

1187
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: if you retire undefeated at this level, that's that's a

1188
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's both equally overrated and underrated, but at

1189
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: the same time it's super impressive to be able to

1190
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: do that. He will be in that conversation with John

1191
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: Jones if he pulls it off, whether Luke Thomas wants

1192
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: to believe it or not.

1193
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely and that and that to me, that solidifies

1194
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: his legacy more and anything. And like you said, I

1195
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: think too much has been made about the double champ

1196
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. You know, it's it's truly about

1197
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: the body of work and who you've beaten and the

1198
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: way you've beat him. And you know, I don't I

1199
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: don't think that he's even lost the round. You know,

1200
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: I think maybe lost maybe one round.

1201
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: One to Connor.

1202
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: Well, let's pick Connor.

1203
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: Your boy. Glison Tebow won a couple of rounds against him,

1204
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: but the judges didn't recognize it. But Connor has officially

1205
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: won around.

1206
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: Against Yeah, kind of went around against him, that's right,

1207
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: kind of didn't went around against him. So I mean

1208
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: that that's greatness. That's legacy right there. Now.

1209
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: Obviously, if any HBI legacy discussion, you're going to counter

1210
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: back and look at the injuries, the time off, the

1211
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: times he couldn't take fights due to fasting all that stuff.

1212
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: He didn't fight in the end. If he only has

1213
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: two more the amount of names we would have loved

1214
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: him to. But when you go that that type of

1215
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: stretch with losing one round, I mean, I'm sorry, like

1216
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: you're you know, he will smash your boy.

1217
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: He's the real So there is sash I smash.

1218
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just send him the damn location from at leah

1219
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: m O'Brien. I can't tell if this is an Irish

1220
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: male or if this is a lady. Wow, we got

1221
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: some females watching the show shout out to that. They

1222
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: want to know, we're shot. Evans. Of all your walkout

1223
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: songs in your career, which one was your favorite? Step Bold.

1224
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: The KRS one song, step into the World? Man?

1225
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what stretch of your fights? Did you

1226
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: use that?

1227
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: I use them for a little bit. I use it

1228
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: when I fought Rampage, and I use it like during

1229
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: that during that whole time. I think I changed it

1230
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: up once I lost a few times.

1231
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: But whatever fight, whatever song you used against Sam Alvey,

1232
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: let's never.

1233
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: I think. I think I didn't come out to the

1234
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: music to that.

1235
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: That was What did you choose against John? Was that

1236
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: Karras one against John Jones.

1237
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't Carress one. I can't remember

1238
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: what I used against John Jones.

1239
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the biggest, Like, you have a Hall

1240
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: of Fame career, You freaking knocked out Chuck Liddell with

1241
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: one punch. You also won the UFC title, But you

1242
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: had that big selling pay per view with Rampage, you

1243
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: had the damn you know, grudge match with John. What's

1244
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: the what's the biggest night of your career? Not in

1245
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: terms of like accomplishment. What do you think was the

1246
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: highest platform you reached? Was it the John flight?

1247
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1248
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: That mattered?

1249
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it did matter, It did matter. But I

1250
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: think the Rampage one was a true one because I

1251
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: think that one kind of pulled people in more, you

1252
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because of the beef with me

1253
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: and Rampage in the fact that it was on, you know,

1254
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: on Ultimate Fighter Show, and you've seen in beef for

1255
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: weeks and weeks and weeks, so had much more of

1256
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: a build up, you know.

1257
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about two black men pulling off one million

1258
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: buys on the pay per view? There a lot of

1259
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: people got behind that same thing with Angela Hill becoming

1260
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: the first African American female this past weekend to headline

1261
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: a UFC cards. So good on all that. Let's go

1262
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: on at Crowned Terror, Rashad. Everybody always asks who hit

1263
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: the hardest, but with all respect, who hit you? And

1264
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: you thought to yourself, wow, I didn't even feel that.

1265
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: Love you guys. Thanks a little bit of a loaded question.

1266
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: Here, Rashada, Who hit me hardest? I think Keep Jardine

1267
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: hit me the hardest. I remember fighting Keep Jardine.

1268
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: That was a great fight, by the way, from the

1269
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: ultimate fighter. People never talk about that fight.

1270
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great fight. He hit me, and uh,

1271
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: like I remember, like for a minute, I went out

1272
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: and then I woke up, and then I thought the

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Speaker 2: referee hit me, you know what I'm saying, because it

1274
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: was just like one of those It was like one

1275
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: of those.

1276
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: Things, you know, Mazagatti.

1277
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was one of them. And the

1278
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: hardest blow I ever received in a fight that I

1279
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: immediately felt, because sometimes you don't really immediately feel the

1280
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: hits in a fight was when I got kicked in

1281
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: the eye against h against oh my gosh, not Glover,

1282
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: not Glover. It was Sam Holger. Sam Holger in the

1283
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: first fight. He it was a third round. Everything was

1284
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: going beautiful and he threw a kick and it hit

1285
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: me in the eye and immediately it was like the

1286
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: worst pain I've ever felt in my life. Man, it

1287
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: was terrible. But that that was it? And who did

1288
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: I fight?

1289
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: You know the real spirit of this question, ra shot.

1290
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: They want to know, with all respect, who hit you?

1291
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: And you thought to yourself, Wow, I didn't even feel that.

1292
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I know the story you're about to tell. Tell the

1293
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: damn but Cheetah story.

1294
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Do it? I can't say what I mean, ma, Cheetah

1295
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: did he At first he wasn't really thumping anything, but

1296
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: then he did come with some power. But I'll say,

1297
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: whoever who punched me, I just didn't really feel it.

1298
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: Uh believe it or I would I would say, believe

1299
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: it or not. It was probably it was probably Brad

1300
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: ives Brad eyes hitting.

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01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: Me walking walking through the Big I remember.

1302
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: I remember he hit me with a couple of punch

1303
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, they didn't hurt as bad as

1304
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: I thought they would hurt. You know what I'm saying.

1305
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna set me up with the machida.

1306
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: Give you a little Oki dope, little tap tap tap,

1307
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: and then he brought the pain all right, you know, you.

1308
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: Know, here's it. Here's the thing about it. It's like

1309
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: like when you get punched in a fight. You know,

1310
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: if it's always the ones you don't see, that's always

1311
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: the one that rocky, even if the guy doesn't have

1312
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: much power, those are the ones at rocky because you

1313
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: don't have a chance to brace for it. So you know,

1314
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: that's why it makes it hard to say who hits

1315
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: the hardest, you know what I'm saying, because all these

1316
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: guys got different powers compared to just based on how

1317
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: much you were ready for it.

1318
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

1319
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that.

1320
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: Love the insight. Thank you from at Brian C. Campbell. Rashad,

1321
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: which Schifchenko's sister do you think is hotter?

1322
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? That was that was.

1323
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: At Macaroni? Is there there's some racial slurs in there?

1324
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Rashad, if it was allowed, would

1325
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: you fight on acid or shrooms?

1326
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: Wow?

1327
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: Very woke question here for twenty twenty medication.

1328
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: Out shrooms shrooms? Shrooms definitely? Uh, you know I used

1329
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: to train on shooms. I'll do a micro dose and

1330
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: I'll train on shrooms. Yeah, you just can't make sure.

1331
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: You gotta make sure you just don't do too much.

1332
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: But what happens, you know whenever I trained on on shrooms,

1333
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: is it kind of like, uh, it makes everything slow down?

1334
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: Like the matrix. It was crazy. You just got to

1335
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: make sure you do the right dose, because you know,

1336
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: you can get into that zone where you kind of

1337
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: feel a little too good and then it's not good persparing.

1338
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: But there there is a certain you saw it on

1339
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: line one here.

1340
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: Retroactively, Yeah, there is a certain dose where you can

1341
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: you can get, you can take and you just be

1342
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: totally plugged in. I know some fighters who actually fight

1343
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: on mushrooms and they and they love it.

1344
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, okay, I guess we're gonna have to end

1345
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: that story there. But what would it take to have

1346
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: a morning combat outing in which you myself, Luke Thomas,

1347
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. We went to like Joshua Tree and

1348
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: we licked toads together and cameras rolling and I'll take

1349
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: deeper shot, I'll find the inside of myself.

1350
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it. I think I think that would

1351
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: be a great idea, man. I think we got the

1352
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: cameras rolling. I think that we'll have a very cathartic experience.

1353
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: I got a I got a perfect shaman. His name

1354
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: is producer Jay. Can we bring him in Ja?

1355
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: Okay?

1356
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: Jay? Would you day? Would you facilitate this day?

1357
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: I would facilitate it.

1358
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how much partaking I would do and

1359
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: all the good times, but I would definitely facilitate it.

1360
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: I think it'll be good in.

1361
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Entertainment, Jay, you know calling you jet engine Jay on

1362
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: on social media. You know you had a rough week,

1363
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: people coming for you, coming for your job, coming for

1364
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: your location.

1365
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: Somebody slid into my d MS and I immediately bought

1366
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: a new Nest camera. I'm just gonna leave it there.

1367
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: I did send it. I did send it to you

1368
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: for proof though, in case you know.

1369
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: Rashot's success brings out haters, right, I mean absolutely absolutely

1370
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: one time to beat up those drunken dudes in that

1371
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: hotel room. Right, Great, Rashad, that'll wrap up that. Why

1372
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: don't we go into uh, I don't know the greatest

1373
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: segment in combat sports history. Here's what it is, Rashad.

1374
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: We scour the globe for the good, the bad, the

1375
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: ugly from combat sports and beyond. You haven't seen these videos.

1376
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: I want your immediate reaction, it is, have you seen

1377
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: this ship? Jay? Hit me with the horns?

1378
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: Money?

1379
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: All right, Rashad. We start from Saturday night, UFC Fight

1380
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: Night in Las Vegas, the Postgame show on ESPN, Karen Bryant,

1381
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: Rashad Evans and Anthony Smith shopping at the same store. Rashad,

1382
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: what's going on here?

1383
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: Bro? Oh my gosh. Look, I had no idea he

1384
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: was even gonna wear that. Look, we we even talk

1385
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: about we're gonna wear on wardrobe day. And he surprised

1386
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: me with the whole the whole exact because Anthony was saying, yeah,

1387
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: I got a blue suit and he just left it

1388
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: at that, So I'm like, okay, he said it's a

1389
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: little bit different than yours, and he's seen the color

1390
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: of my suit, so I didn't think anything of it.

1391
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: Next day he pulls out a damn near identical suit. Yeah,

1392
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: random tie. It was awesome.

1393
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: Is there any sort of tension because you guys have

1394
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: shared the octagon before?

1395
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: Now we're actually really really cool, man, Like we're like

1396
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: really cool, like really good friends. It's surprising. It was

1397
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: kind of weird at first, but then like, uh, I

1398
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: don't know, it just kind of feels like we're just

1399
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: like natural friends.

1400
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, Thomas's favorite fighter of all time. Don't

1401
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: let him hear any differently, all right. We also had

1402
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: some highlights from this card. Hit Me with a Jay

1403
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: lightweight's Otman Isatar sending Kama Worthy to the deep dark

1404
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: depths for Sean. How about this ko one?

1405
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that right there was amazing because nobody knows who

1406
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: Opman is. And you know, you look at him and

1407
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem as if like he should hit that hard.

1408
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: But his in the pocket, punching the education, going high low,

1409
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: going back high again. That's some good boxing.

1410
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Worthy had been read hot and you told me

1411
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: before the fight Atman was live they call you Mystic

1412
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: Shot on CBS Sports HQ due to your betting picks

1413
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: for Shot. You're on fire. You're absolutely on.

1414
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: Fire, right Hey, I mean you know I do pick him,

1415
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: I do pick them right. Uh?

1416
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, let's go deeper on the card. Featherweights.

1417
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: Billy Quarantillo was in a war with Kyle Nelson. A

1418
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: lot of back and forth, but we open up round

1419
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: three seven seconds in one hit a quit a for

1420
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: shod because that's all it took. This guy, billy Q.

1421
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: Don't call him Quaranteo. He's removing that pronunciation from his name.

1422
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: He's on fire for shot. He gets hit though, but

1423
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: he's on fire.

1424
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: Man billy Q is. First of all, he's from Western

1425
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: New York. He's from Ransomville. That's pretty close to where

1426
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: I grew up from I grew up at and he

1427
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: can get it done on the ground. He can strike.

1428
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: But that power that he showed in that right hand

1429
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: and the vision that he show it just shows this

1430
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: guy has a high ceiling. But that punch. Hearing it live,

1431
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: it was like, oh my, I grabbed my eye. It

1432
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,959
Speaker 2: was just so concussive and loud. It had a thud

1433
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: to it where when you're there, you like it sounded

1434
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: like something broke, like he broke an orbital socket or something.

1435
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: He's been under the radar. One of the biggest surprises

1436
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: of the quarantine, right, Hannah Sicher's still taking quarantine L's unfortunately,

1437
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: but this is billy Q rising. Let's move on heavyweights

1438
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: on this undercard for shot, somebody's getting beat by a

1439
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: man with titties. It's Alexander Romanov given the fat guy

1440
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: suplex on Roki Martinez. Hey, this guy Romanov afterwards was

1441
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: calling out the entire division. I don't know how they

1442
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: made two sixty five for shot, but you downe.

1443
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: With this guy. I mean, he had some hell of

1444
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: a throw, but he has a nice B cup too,

1445
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: or maybe C cup. But listen, he can get down.

1446
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to what the heavyweight division

1447
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: is lacking, he has what they're lacking. So he can

1448
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: definitely go in there and make an impact. But I

1449
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: need to see more with the hands, you know. I

1450
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: didn't really get to see what he had to offer

1451
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: from his hands and really transition it into some meaningful

1452
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: grappling takedowns.

1453
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: Michael Bispeck had the joke that this checked the reinforcement

1454
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: of the octagon. It reminded me of the greatest fat

1455
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: guy suplex of all time. We go back in the

1456
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: way back machine to twenty eleven ww E Raw Mark

1457
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: Henry getting the big show up Rashad very reminiscent of

1458
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: Saturday Night, only the ring couldn't hold them.

1459
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's exactly what it was. I couldn't

1460
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: believe that throw, and then he had the nerve to

1461
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: throw his his corner afterwards. But I mean, look at

1462
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: this throw right here. Dang, that's a lot of power

1463
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: right there. That had to be every bit like eight

1464
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: hundred pounds.

1465
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: Thomas would not allow of this if he was here.

1466
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's go on bellatour two forty six the

1467
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: co main event. Nieman Gracie submitting forty two year old

1468
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: John Fitch with a kind of interesting reverse kneebar whatever

1469
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: you call that thing. Rashod. But afterwards, mister Fitch leaving

1470
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: the gloves in the center of the cage rashad. He's

1471
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: had a very sort of demonized career. Yet you look,

1472
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of wins on that career. He called it.

1473
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm too old, I'm forty two, there's nothing left to accomplish.

1474
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: How will you remember John Fitch? Good or bad?

1475
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: Good? You know, he was a really good fighter, and

1476
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: then the fighting game kind of made him cynical and

1477
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 2: just kind of he lost his love for fighting. And

1478
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: once he lost his love for fighting, you know, just

1479
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: the passion and what he put behind it kind of

1480
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: went in a way as well, and he kind of

1481
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 2: lingered on for a while. But you know, he was

1482
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 2: a force and he definitely was at one time one

1483
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: of the toughest guys in the UFC.

1484
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: Dana White never loved him. There was a lot of

1485
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: like Cinemax B movie level sex positions he'd pull off.

1486
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 1: But you know, he had won something like seven in

1487
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: a row, so then had the draw with Rory McDonald

1488
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: and then this fight. So he had been active and

1489
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: successful in World Series of Fighting onto Bellatour, but he

1490
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: moves on after their big win for naming Gracie who

1491
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: needed it. We go on to top rank Boxing over

1492
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: the weekend. Rashad ed Judice kavaliyuskis mean machine is back

1493
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: rebounding from that loss to Terrence Crawford on the title

1494
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: level by sending mikl Zuski to hell. Afterwards, he called

1495
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: out Bud Crawford. But Rashot, I don't need to see

1496
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: that fight again.

1497
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: Nah No. I mean look the way he got dusted

1498
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: off real quick. I mean the way to come back

1499
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: and everything like that. When look at the way he

1500
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: just blaze them across the ring right there, I mean

1501
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: it is I'll FITBC.

1502
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: In Gross Boxing of the Week, we go to Moscow

1503
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: UFC in Bellatoor, veteran heavyweight Sergei Kratanov making his pro

1504
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: boxing debut against forty seven year old Danny Williams, the

1505
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: guy from Britain who knocked out Mike Tyson like eighteen

1506
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: years ago. Caratanov won a KO two t KO. Excuse

1507
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: me when Williams just stopped fighting and the ref waved

1508
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: it off. But Rashad, this didn't make the headlines. His

1509
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: entrance is what made the headlines. Have you seen this ship,

1510
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: Rashad evans, we got an eighties level rock band playing, Uh,

1511
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: looks like Zach Wilde right there, and we've got a

1512
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: live bear.

1513
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: Rash Oh my gosh, wow, oh my wow.

1514
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: They do things a little bit differently on the side.

1515
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: That looked like the damn bear that was rustling.

1516
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: Many many a PETA supporter, including Luke Thomas, had issues

1517
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: with this on Twitter. But Rashad, look at the eighties vibe,

1518
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: the dancing chicks, the guitar solos. I'm kind of here

1519
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: for this. I'm sorry, all right, I'm sure that bears happy.

1520
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: They probably put him to sleep with a laser gun afterwards,

1521
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: but I'm sure he's very happy.

1522
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: Image if that bear would have went aption just bit everybody.

1523
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: You remember in the early two thousands when we used

1524
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: to get high all the time and watch celebrity boxing

1525
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: on Fox. But then it kind of ran its course,

1526
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: so they had that man versus Animal show. Remember Kobayashi

1527
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: had the hot dog getting contest against the bear, and

1528
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: the bear basically just sat there, stared at the camera

1529
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: and then picked up like twenty seven of them with

1530
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: his claw and ate him in one bike. Great moments

1531
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: in TV history there, shot, I know.

1532
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: You saw that.

1533
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: Let's move on here, rashod. We all want to be

1534
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: there for our kids and our daughters. But if you're

1535
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: a dad, you gotta know about weight limits.

1536
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: Here.

1537
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get on your daughter's bike. Shot up

1538
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: to this guy with the socks and sandals and little

1539
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: girl's bike, you've been sent to hell.

1540
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that bike is never gonna be the same.

1541
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 2: That bike he just got it from He they just

1542
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: got it from the store.

1543
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Walmart approved right there.

1544
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: That is definitely Walmart approove. He probably hadn't rode a

1545
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: bike in so long.

1546
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh look at that handle. Fat people video shout out

1547
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: to that on Instagram. We go on to Spinny Ship

1548
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: of the Week. We're sha we love, we love ourselves

1549
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: some good, bad spinny shit. Check out this dance instructor.

1550
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean you gotta you gotta warn you're

1551
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: dealing with children here, fellow, what are you doing? What's

1552
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: going on here? Show?

1553
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But the worst part about that whole

1554
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: video is not the fact that he did it was

1555
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: he didn't even check on the child.

1556
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: He's sitting there just in all that he did it.

1557
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: Look at the child.

1558
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: The child's knocked out cold, buddy, Rashad. This is the

1559
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: showmanship era on social media. He knows the cameras are running,

1560
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: so he wants to finish the shot, you know, before

1561
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: checking in. Oh god, that kid, that kid is knocked out.

1562
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: That kid is knocked out. That she's probably.

1563
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: Concussing right now, Jay Jay, Sorry Child Services Online one Jay.

1564
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: Can we roll on here? What's next in the in

1565
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: the lineage here of spiny shit? Oh god, it's Raymond Daniels,

1566
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 1: the forty year old kickboxing mixed martial arts superstar. Rashaw.

1567
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: Can you go to church and light a candle for

1568
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: this fella called Patrick Stenonik because he didn't just get

1569
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: a spinning back kick to the crotch once and waited

1570
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: five minutes for his man parts to come back. He

1571
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: got it twice for shod. There are certain noises we

1572
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: just shouldn't hear, right our parents in the upstairs, where

1573
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: we shouldn't hear that a grown man with no one

1574
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: in the crowd, guttural screaming. Did you hear the guttural

1575
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: screams that came out of this After the second one,

1576
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with a I think a groin contusion.

1577
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: Is that black balls? He got black balls to shot?

1578
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: That is just that's as bad as it gets, broke.

1579
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: Give me an you knew it was painful when he

1580
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: doubled over and then he starts hitting the ground because

1581
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: he just can't get the pain out. Like the screaming

1582
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: is not getting the pain out enough, you know what

1583
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like only thing that was missing in that

1584
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 2: polls was his feet just banging off the back of

1585
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: the canvas. That was the only thing missing in that polls.

1586
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: But the in which Raymond Daniels probably threw that kick

1587
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: and the oh my gosh, because he's.

1588
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: Not like the Kung Lee program. Yeah, she's they put

1589
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: him in there just to do spinny stuff. And you know,

1590
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mean to be ill humane here,

1591
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: but as a man knowing what this, you know a

1592
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: tenth of what this feels like. If they would have

1593
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: shot Patrick Stanonik, I mean, it would have been murder,

1594
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: but it would have put him out of his misery shot.

1595
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. And here's the thing, like the cup.

1596
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 2: Like normally you think like when people get hitting enoughs,

1597
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, come on, you got a cup on,

1598
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: especially with the right cup, with like a steel cup,

1599
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: you don't really feel it that much. So I don't

1600
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: really like, I'm kind of bothering when people do that.

1601
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: But this right here, that would probably go through any

1602
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: steel cup.

1603
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: That would they go through your soul reshot. I mean,

1604
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever gonna fight or walk again.

1605
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: He's definitely not having kids. So hey, he had a

1606
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: good run there, Patrick's Danick. We all a grieve with you.

1607
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: Let's roll on, Jay, what do we got next year? Oh? Yeah,

1608
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: there it is. It has just let that out. Oh,

1609
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: here's the video of the week, Rashad. Check out the

1610
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: athleticism here. Do not try this at home. We've all

1611
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: been there though. We get down the wrong subway platform

1612
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna miss our train. Look at Carl Lewis, Yead,

1613
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: Mike Powell. That's insane.

1614
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa.

1615
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: Sign them up? Is that Park? Horror shot?

1616
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: What is that?

1617
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: Wow?

1618
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: That's hood Park. That is.

1619
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: That man? Just put his life on the line for

1620
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: our entertainment. Shut up man.

1621
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: Wow. It looked like he has done this many times too,

1622
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: like this is what he does? Like this is what

1623
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: he does. Yeah, unbelievable.

1624
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I know the world long jump record is

1625
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: like twenty nine feet, so it's probably not that ridiculous,

1626
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: but just the danger of the uh yeah, okay, Hey,

1627
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: let's go on from here. Another knockout. I don't know

1628
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: if you saw this for shot Tuesday Night, Dana White

1629
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: Contender series from the APEX. Tell me about Philip Hawes

1630
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: land in this one am next stop hades shot.

1631
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 2: Amazing shot and such a well deserved job, Such a

1632
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: well deserved for Phil Hawes, who you know, had a

1633
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: struggles making it and can performing at this level on

1634
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: the scene with the UFC and now with that that

1635
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: big right hand, he gets a contract and you know

1636
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: feel somebody I trained with way back in the day

1637
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: and he's you know, come back around to the team,

1638
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: and now he's clicking on all cylinders and just feeling

1639
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: himself immensely dialed in. He's gonna be tough.

1640
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oz, you've seen that ship I have. All right,

1641
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: let's go on to uh ladies working out here. She's

1642
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: got a good setup, she's got a good plan for shot.

1643
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: What is that?

1644
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: What is on those pants? What is the hell are

1645
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 1: we doing here? Look at the unit on that guy, Rashad,

1646
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

1647
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 2: What is happening here? What am I seeing? What am

1648
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: I missing in here? That's I feel like I shouldn't

1649
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: even be looking there. You know, just.

1650
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: Chicks with sticks? No, that is a That is a

1651
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: print design on her pants there? That makes me uncomfortable.

1652
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: Jab sorry, you know that? All right? Hey, Rashot, you

1653
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: ever see those Papa shot things in the basement? Check

1654
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: out this guy two hands slip?

1655
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: Don't you You look like he might have broke his

1656
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: back on that one? Get back on been that way man?

1657
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: Doctor said you need a back out of me? Yes,

1658
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, okay, final, all right, Rashat. I know

1659
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: you live your life at quarter mile at a time

1660
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: like dom Toretto. So check out this car chase in England,

1661
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: it is both fast and furious. Look at this.

1662
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look escape Now that that's something off

1663
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: of a movie, Like if you see that in the

1664
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: move like that would never happen. I was like, you

1665
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, But it does. It does happen.

1666
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 2: We've just seen it. That's something also like you're seeing Florida,

1667
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: because in South Florida you see the craziest accents. You

1668
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: see cars flipped over, people running around, you see crazy.

1669
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: As a resident Florida man, Rashot confirms, I like, you're like,

1670
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, you would only see that in the movie. Oh,

1671
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: actually in South Florida. All right, hey we're shot. We

1672
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: got one from the archives. Our viewer Ahmed Atia sent

1673
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: this in. You know, your manager, Manager of the Stars,

1674
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: Ali Abdelazi's check it out. Yeah, two thousand and seven

1675
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: at Heroes eight, going in there against former UFC title

1676
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: challenger Kale Uno.

1677
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at this.

1678
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: Now full disclosure. Uh Ali ended up tapping in this

1679
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: one submission loss. But look at this. Look at this.

1680
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: That's a takedown. Rashod.

1681
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has some moments. He actually threw him a

1682
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: couple of times. Ali has some sneaky good judo and

1683
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: this surprise and like a he can really fight. And

1684
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: when I was fighting for training for Sean Salmon, Ali

1685
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: was my main training partner. I learned how to throw

1686
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: that kick so good because I'll Lea's a South Paul

1687
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: and I was kicking him in ahead with that kick. Kick.

1688
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: Now you're you're your head kick of poor Shawn Salmon

1689
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: is running every highlight reel of great UFC moment? Did

1690
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: Ali get some of that sauce during training?

1691
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I perfected it on Ali.

1692
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: That's you know, what happens in sparring supposedly stays in sparring,

1693
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: but I think the statue of limitations have passed on

1694
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: Look our viewer of the week shout out to this

1695
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: guy once again. This couple. They're touring the country. It's

1696
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: Bill and Jen's RV adventure on Instagram. We love Bill.

1697
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: Check them out for shot this week. They're at North

1698
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: Cascades National Park in Washington State, wearing the MK merch

1699
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: there very comfortable green shirt. We'll have to get you

1700
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: outfitted than that for sure. Are you a National Parks guy?

1701
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: I am? I love that shot too. Where's that at?

1702
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: That's a North Cascades National Park. It's up on the

1703
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: Canadian border, Washington State. It's supposed to be the U

1704
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: they call it the US Alps. Shot all right, they've

1705
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: got some nice tittay shaped mountains up there. I'm big

1706
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: fan of that, you know. Shout out to Bill and Jen.

1707
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: They are still I don't know if they work. I

1708
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. We love Bill in these parts. Also,

1709
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: one of our viewers at Greg All thirty one sent

1710
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: in he actually did go to show dot store dot

1711
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: com and got in on the merch. He ordered the mug.

1712
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: But Jay, what is going on here? Can you talk

1713
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: to people in shipping? First? Bill? Bill with the point?

1714
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Thank you Bill?

1715
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1716
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: Jay? Can you advance the slide please? Yeah, that's not good?

1717
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: The US Postal Service ruining that?

1718
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: Jay?

1719
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: Can we bring you in here, Jay, Jake? Can can

1720
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: you personally see that Greg gets a new mug or what?

1721
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be blamed for this as I'm blamed

1722
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: for everything else that goes wrong on this show. Yes,

1723
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: is that on us? Or is that on the shipping?

1724
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: That's on the Postal Service?

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01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure it was not on us. It would

1726
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: definitely be on the nice shipping fellows. If we have

1727
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: to blame somebody, let's blame the post office.

1728
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: All right, we close with this Rashod. We have a

1729
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: listener who's more like family. He lives in Italy. He

1730
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: is the Greek god of graphics and thunder, Cristos, Cristoforos,

1731
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 1: who every week just gives us these goodies of posters.

1732
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: He makes Rashod. My favorite action movie of all time

1733
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: is marked for death. And check out what he did

1734
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: for me here Cigalgo's campbell. Uh, Jay, can you read

1735
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: that what the poster says? I can't see you, Jay,

1736
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: not a word of it.

1737
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: One word. Hopefully one of our viewers with like one

1738
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:16,839
Speaker 2: of those big fifty inch screens.

1739
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Yes, people do watch us on those, but I've seen

1740
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I've seen those posts online. Yeah, for shot, I got

1741
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: to get this printed at all and put put behind me.

1742
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just fantastic that. I mean that

1743
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: was that? Now, that was the one with the Jamaicans

1744
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: in it? Right, damn right? That?

1745
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: Who did that? The web hatcha shot. Let's be honest.

1746
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: Who took the worst death in action movie history? Was

1747
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: it screwface number one or two? I mean you know

1748
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: they both got their Yeah, they got their jump sliced

1749
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: uf with a sword, Yeah they got, Yeah, they got

1750
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: Do you have it?

1751
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: Do you have a knife like that at home? Is that?

1752
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed blunt weapons in this house. Jay, thank you.

1753
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: That is not blunt. That does not look blunt at all.

1754
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: Let's go on to a little bit of odds and

1755
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: ends here to close the show, and I will start Rashad.

1756
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: You were there, so I want to bring you in

1757
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: on this, this bizarre situation going on. Short fuse ed.

1758
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Herman was in a light heavyweight bout against Mike Rodriguez.

1759
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 1: He was getting beat up. There was a knee of

1760
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: the body and Herman went down and after Chris Toyoni,

1761
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: the referee, Togyoni Toyoni Toyota, came in there, waved off,

1762
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: gave him the five minute break, ruled it a low blow. Rashad.

1763
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: The replay showed clearly that it was a hard knee

1764
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: of the stomach and it looked like it would have

1765
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: knocked Herman out because he covered up into the shell

1766
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: and was getting plastered with punches. Here's the deal, though

1767
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: they got people upset ed. Herman milked it took like

1768
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: the full five minutes recovered from this second round knee

1769
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: in which he looked out, and then rallied to win

1770
01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: the damn fight. Afterwards, Rashad, let's talk about this because

1771
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: I have praised lion Hard Anthony Smith in the past.

1772
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: He could have been your life. Have youweight champion against

1773
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: John Jones if you sold that DQ tell me if

1774
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm wrong or not on that illegal strike.

1775
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: No, You're absolutely right. I mean, you know, uh, ed

1776
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Ed did what he he He did what the referee

1777
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 2: allowed him to do. You know what I'm saying. I mean,

1778
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 2: should have Ed been like, all right, look I'm faking

1779
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 2: look I got Yeah. I don't know, because he might

1780
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: have not have really known that he didn't get hit

1781
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: in his in his junk, or how low that blow was,

1782
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: because in all in all, honestly, sometimes when you get

1783
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: hit in the liver, it sends a shot of pain

1784
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 2: and it and it hits you. It hits you, it

1785
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 2: hits you butt. You know what I'm saying, He like

1786
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 2: it feels like you need to google for a second.

1787
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 2: So he could have thought it was a low blow.

1788
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 2: But at the same time, the referee needed to be

1789
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: in position, not even be in position. He needed to

1790
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: take a second to kind of look at how uh

1791
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: it was. It was. It was just bad. It was

1792
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: just terrible all together. Very unfortunate, very unfortunate because the

1793
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: next round he got caught in this a komora, that

1794
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 2: nasty that you never see and you never see anyone

1795
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: get caught in a kure like this, not at this level, not.

1796
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Like that call that white belt shit? Is that what

1797
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: they call it?

1798
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: That was white belt ish shit? Yes, for sure.

1799
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: Like, so here's the deal, Like, I don't want to

1800
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: damn ed Herman either. It's a smart manipulation of the

1801
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 1: rules if he knew better. Look, the replay showed he

1802
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: got hit flush in the kind of mid stomach, but

1803
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: the knee did slide down and I think it did

1804
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: at least catch contact with the groin on the way out.

1805
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: So I know, in a fight, you're right, Rashad. I

1806
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta respect that in a fight, your mind

1807
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: is in a few different places when you're getting hit. Afterwards,

1808
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm not really sure what it hit,

1809
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: but I felt it. But this has like the feeling

1810
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: of like a soccer match and all the flopping or

1811
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: the NBA flopping. This has a feeling of sort of

1812
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: milking the system. Would the respectful thing have been to

1813
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: like take ten seconds and then get back and be

1814
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: like no, no, I'm good, I'm good. Or do you

1815
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: okay with When the system gives you this, do you

1816
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: take it?

1817
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean yes, yes. If the system

1818
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: gets to you, then you have to take it. You

1819
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: have to take it because here's why you have to

1820
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: take it. There is gonna come a time where something

1821
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: comes up short against you. You know what I'm saying.

1822
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna come up on a short and a stick.

1823
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 2: And that's how it works. Like eventually, you know it

1824
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: for some somehow, some way, this will find it's balanced.

1825
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: It'll balance out some way somehow, and you see ed.

1826
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: Herman will get sent life will send ed Herman to

1827
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 1: hell eventually.

1828
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: So was real, like, I don't know.

1829
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you go to Walmart and you,

1830
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, you buy something with a twenty dollars bill

1831
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: and they give you back like, you know, twenty two

1832
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: dollars in change and realize it walking out and you're like, WHOA,

1833
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's my day today, and you keep going

1834
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: I guess it's equivalent of.

1835
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 2: That right that. Yeah, I mean, it's a refereence job

1836
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: to not make that mistake at all.

1837
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Well, let's add Chris Tanyoni if i'm how do you

1838
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: pronounce his name, Chris Tayoni?

1839
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah.

1840
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, shout out to the UFC for

1841
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: paying Mike Rodriguez his winner share even though he technically

1842
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: lost this by submission. But Dana White, I don't know

1843
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: if you heard it, he went off at the press

1844
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: or afterwards rashad he was using words like Steve Mazagatti.

1845
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: So look, Dana White doesn't use the N word, but

1846
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: the equivalent of the N word for Dana White is

1847
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: using Steve Mazagatti, and he compared that to this situation

1848
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: and basically wants to see where this guy never works again.

1849
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: I think this can be fixed with a change in

1850
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: the replay rule, which under that fight's terms, you can

1851
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: only replay a fight ending scenario. But obviously, when a

1852
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: situation like this could affect the end of the fight

1853
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: so greatly, which it did, can we just change the

1854
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: damn unified rules and not have it where every other

1855
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: states a different set and we're not really sure which

1856
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: state were in at the moment.

1857
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: Like, please absolutely, because here here's the reality of the situation.

1858
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna make a mistake. And as I'll say it

1859
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 2: in the beginning, you know, that was a perspective that

1860
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: he couldn't see. He couldn't see that perspective, that angle,

1861
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: and there's so many things to watch him watching so

1862
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: many things. All let is split second, you know what

1863
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's really I do understand Dana White's frustration.

1864
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 2: I do understand where he's coming from, where he's mad at.

1865
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there has to be a

1866
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 2: system set in place where if something does happen like that,

1867
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: where a referee couldn't see it from some other angle

1868
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 2: and there's some kind of controversy, it can be reviewed.

1869
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: I would love if somebody could get Mazagatti and Dana

1870
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: White in the same room, at the same table, maybe

1871
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: put like a jail like clear screen between them, and

1872
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: then just have them go out of it and just argue.

1873
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: That'd be great, Rashad, that'd be great TV.

1874
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: Mazagatti refed me when I fought Forrest Griffin and you know,

1875
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: House hitting Forest at the end and it was over,

1876
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: and I looked up at Mazagati to stop, and he didn't,

1877
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, after he stopped it a little bit afterwhards,

1878
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Dana was so pissed off. Man, he was so pissed off.

1879
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: He wanted me to just like. He's like, bro, I

1880
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 2: see you looking up from the stop and he won.

1881
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: You won't stop it. He won't stop it.

1882
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: The thing is, Mazacati still goes to fights. He doesn't

1883
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 1: ref anymore, but he works for the Las Vegas Commission.

1884
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: So he's the guy a lot of a lot of

1885
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: the UFC fights that sits next to the cage with

1886
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: a referees uniform on, like an old school black and

1887
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: white striped referee uniform. And he's like the the like

1888
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: the timekeeper type commission guy that's right there making sure

1889
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: everything's regulated. It's interesting how he's I'm sure Dana loves that,

1890
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: by the way, all right, Rachelle. My other quick point

1891
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: was on that belatour roll out of announcements. Uh put

1892
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: a put a pin in Thursday night, October twenty ninth,

1893
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: from the Mohican Sun Bubble. It's gonna air a nine

1894
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on the CBS Sports Network. This Bellator card.

1895
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what number it is, but whatsaweight champion

1896
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Douglas Lima is officially moving up and he's gonna fight

1897
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: Gay Guard Mousse Saucy for the promotions Vacant one eighty

1898
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,839
Speaker 1: five title. Uh rashad. This is daring to be awesome

1899
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: from our guy, Doug Lima, who you know. Of course,

1900
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: we can rightfully say I'd like to find out where

1901
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: he actually ranks among the best welterweights in the world.

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal about Belato reshot Okay, sometimes we

1903
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Speaker 1: can frame Belatore. We can focus too much on the

1904
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Speaker 1: old guy fights. We can focus too much on Well,

1905
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Speaker 1: you could go there to rehab yourself, and yes, if

1906
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Speaker 1: you want to, you could go there to take soft matchmaking.

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Speaker 1: You could also go there if you want to be

1908
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Speaker 1: great and take one tough ass fight after another, which

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Speaker 1: Lima's doing good. God, he fought Rory and then what

1910
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Speaker 1: uh he fought Rory again, and then he fought and

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Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna fight gay Guard. I mean this guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, he won the Welterweight Grand Prix. He showed

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Speaker 1: you he's absolutely legit, and I was gonna move up

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Speaker 1: to middleweight to find out how great he can be.

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Speaker 1: I love this so much. Inject me, Rashad right now,

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Speaker 1: are right here, right here, okay, please?

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it too, and I love

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Speaker 2: that Lima's challenge stuff like this, because this is what

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Speaker 2: it's all about. You know, you get a chance to

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Speaker 2: compete against somebody as talented and as good as gay

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Speaker 2: Guard Musasi. You know, you arrive on another level when

1922
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Speaker 2: you can beat a guy like that. So yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is what it's all about. But you know, for Bellatore,

1924
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Speaker 2: this is the direction that they need to move, and

1925
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Speaker 2: they need to start making sure that they invest in

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Speaker 2: the talent that they have. That's the biggest thing that

1927
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Speaker 2: Bellatore is lacking. They're just lacking the love for their

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Speaker 2: own talent that they bring up through the system. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think that they started to put more hype on

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Speaker 2: their fighters because they have great talent, but they just

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Speaker 2: don't give them the spotlight over old talent.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, very fair, indeed, Rashad, what is your odds

1933
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Speaker 1: and ends this week?

1934
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Speaker 2: What do we miss? And my odds and end? It

1935
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: comes from the UFC fight that I was at this weekend,

1936
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Speaker 2: and it was an early fight. It was the Roosevelt

1937
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Speaker 2: Roberts and Kevin Krum fight and what that fight was amazing.

1938
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Kroume stepped in a fight late fight replacement with

1939
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 2: seventy two hours notice and went in there, came out

1940
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Speaker 2: to what a wonderful world and put on a show

1941
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Speaker 2: a thirty five second victory where he came in and

1942
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: landed a big shot that stunned Roosevelt Roberts. But then

1943
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: he then transitioned into a standing guillotine choke, which he

1944
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 2: doesn't even know he even claims how to do. But

1945
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Speaker 2: somehow I found his way to make it mark, make

1946
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Speaker 2: its mark. But what makes it so impressive to me

1947
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Speaker 2: is you know this guy, the journey that Krum has

1948
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Speaker 2: been on. You know, Kroum is a lifelong journeyman when

1949
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 2: it comes to mixed martial arts. Never made over a

1950
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 2: thousand dollars competing in the smaller regional shows and was

1951
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: actually had a contract to fighting the UFC, but failed

1952
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 2: this COVID nineteen test and then was cut from the UFC.

1953
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 2: But then they brought him back because when he thought

1954
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: he got cut from the UFC, got the contract, got

1955
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Speaker 2: cut from the UFC after he failed the test, and

1956
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 2: he thought the world was over. And then just when

1957
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: he thought it was over, he gets another chance, but

1958
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 2: it was fighting at a higherway class and is fighting

1959
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Speaker 2: against Roosevelt Roberts. He just said, you know what, I'm

1960
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Speaker 2: gonna take it, and that's why Dan and White awarded

1961
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 2: him so big. Afterwards, he's like, you know what, you

1962
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Speaker 2: take big chances and you get rewarded big, so shout

1963
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Speaker 2: out to him.

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Speaker 1: His celebration felt really good. That's one thing about this

1965
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Speaker 1: fan era, rashod I almost feel like fighters when they

1966
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: win to fill that gap of not having screaming fans.

1967
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: It's almost like we're getting some over celebrations and I'm

1968
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: here for it. I love this change. We are seeing

1969
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: people like maniacally celebrate like Connor jumping the fence after

1970
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: knocking out sever to find Jose a type of celebrations lately,

1971
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Speaker 1: and this one was deserving. I don't know if you

1972
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: heard his interview afterwards, he was completely obviously humble and

1973
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: shocked and happy, but he's like, yeah, I want to

1974
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: fight next week too. I can make forty five or

1975
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: fifty five, and if you give me another week, I

1976
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: can make thirty five too. What was his nickname too?

1977
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: It was something real white trash I loved it.

1978
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 2: I loved it. Yeah, he know, he kind of reminded

1979
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 2: me of you ever seen that movie California with with

1980
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 2: with Brad Pitt in it. Yes, he's kind of really

1981
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 2: he kind of got a little bit early in them.

1982
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 2: Come on early, you got a little bit of great

1983
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 2: early in them.

1984
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Speaker 1: Feel good moment. Tough break for Rusvell Roberts, right, I

1985
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: keep picking them and then it's not working.

1986
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: It was a tough break. But here's the thing with

1987
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,919
Speaker 2: that whole situation, Like when you're a guy like Roosevelt

1988
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: Roberts or not even you know, just just someone in

1989
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 2: that position where you're a veteran in the UFC and

1990
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 2: you're fighting against a guy who's a late replacement, you

1991
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 2: have to meet that energy. And especially now with this

1992
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 2: pandemic fighting, these guys are getting this opportunity from these

1993
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: regional shows and they're realizing like, this is it, this

1994
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 2: is it for me, and they, you know, they understand

1995
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Speaker 2: how hard the landscape is to even make it into

1996
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 2: the UFC, so they're willing to give it all and

1997
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: for them, this is their title fight. So you have

1998
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,799
Speaker 2: to match that energy. If you're a veteran like Roosevelt

1999
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 2: Roberts or someone of that matter going in there against

2000
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: these guys and he didn't do that. Yeah.

2001
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Speaker 1: Absolutely a fun week of fights. Look forward to Showtime's

2002
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: return this weekend. That Colby Covington Tyron Woodley fight going

2003
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 1: to be fun. Rashaan Evans, great going up down MK

2004
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: with you as you're part of our extended MK universe.

2005
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: Here you have joined a list of royalty of people

2006
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: that have replaced Luke and I. It includes Chuck Mindenhall,

2007
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: the Man with the damn hat, and al Jamaine Sterling.

2008
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Speaker 2: Souh Okay, okay, I'm up.

2009
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Speaker 1: There with nice little crew that we're rocking out right there.

2010
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Uh rashot, I've been. I've been jamming on that peloton.

2011
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Speaker 2: Okay.

2012
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Speaker 1: One of these days I'm gonna come in with it

2013
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Speaker 1: with a with the tight jawbone. Okay. I mean it's

2014
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a rich guy thing, but it's working.

2015
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Speaker 2: I'm loving it. Okay, that's good. It's all about the

2016
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 2: routine and consistent consistency. Yeah.

2017
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Speaker 1: Yeah, diet brand for me to eat clean.

2018
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, diet is what creates as BC diet diet.

2019
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so rashod like, you know what I do

2020
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: when I pull up on a Cumberland farms, right, what

2021
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: do you do when you walk in on a Cumberland

2022
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: farms and you see like or maybe circle okay wherever

2023
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: you're going, and you're your South Floid. I don't know

2024
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: what they got. You got the rollers, right? You got

2025
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: like the tornadoes with the buffalo, you know, I mean

2026
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: you got I mean like they're just screaming for you.

2027
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 1: There's a damn slippery machine. There's the ninety nine cent piezz.

2028
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: What do you feel on the inside? I get really excited.

2029
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I walk by all of that and I just go

2030
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: right to the front and just get the rolls.

2031
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: Indeed, please try Showtime take the thirty day challenge and

2032
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: tell me if you won't come back. Okay, I think

2033
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: you all. I think you're gonna stay with it. Go

2034
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: to Showtime dot com. Right now, I'm knee deep in

2035
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: that shuge night documentary fantastic. I watched the damn one

2036
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: on Jeff Beck was great. A lot of great stuff

2037
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: on there. Check out Outcry if you haven't seen that,

2038
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: along with our interviews online Morning Combat as well. Luke

2039
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 1: Thomas will be back next week. Guys. It's a big week.

2040
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna launch this vehicle. We're gonna give you at

2041
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 1: least three live shows a week. Obviously. Next week is

2042
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: the double Charlote pay per view Ota Signia Costa. Oh

2043
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: good god, yeah, let me get some of that, Rashad, right,

2044
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean that was weird, but like you got that, right,

2045
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: you got that?

2046
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got that. I didn't get the pump, but

2047
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 2: I got I.

2048
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: Got Okay, Sorry sorry, Follow him at Sugar Rashad Evans

2049
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 1: on the Instagram, on the Twitter. Uh, support what we

2050
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: do obviously, store dot show dot com. You can get

2051
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: you our merch rashod Evan any uh message to close

2052
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: In all seriousness, Squantein's been rough, but I've I've I've

2053
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:15,839
Speaker 1: I've learned. You've got to take care of yourself.

2054
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Absolutely, that's what I said

2055
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: about BC taking care of yourself. And as a matter

2056
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 2: of fact, I'm about to go to the gym right

2057
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 2: now and get some work in so gotta keep them

2058
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 2: abs going. Baby, that's what I'm.

2059
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Talking about, all right, A forty year old with abs,

2060
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: never heard of it until now. All right, it's here,

2061
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: it's there, that's Rashot Evans. Uh and that's it for

2062
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: us Uh, for sugar Rashad, for Jay the producer. I

2063
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: am your boy BC, as Luke would say, May all

2064
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Speaker 1: your hose be loyal,