1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is a 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: story about Blink one eighty two, which means it's also 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: a story about Dick jokes about running through the streets 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles naked, and about simple, infectious, juvenile pop punk. 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: It's also a story about the truth about what the 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: government does and does not want us to talk about 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: or even to think about. It's about a plane crash, 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: a cancer diagnosis, and about a snot nosed punk from 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: southern California who was expelled from high school but would 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: eventually find himself taking meetings with white house personnel, A 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: snot knows punk who in his band Blink one eighty 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: two made great music, unlike that music I played for 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: you at the top of the show that wasn't great 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: me music that was a preset loop for my melotron 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: called Hooskerdoo's books about UFOs MK one. I played you 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: that loop because I can't afford the rights to Blinding 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Lights by the weekend. And why would I play you 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: that specific slice of eighties time machine cheese? Could I 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: afford it? Because that was the number one song in America. 20 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: On April twenty seventh, twenty twenty, and that was the 21 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: day that the Department of Defense did something it had 22 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: never done before, disclosed information to the public regarding the 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: likely existence of life from beyond this planet and or 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: this dimension. On this episode, Dick jokes government lies. Aliens 25 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: exist in Blink one eighty two. I'm Jake Brennan in 26 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: this this disgraceland. Aliens exist. But don't take my word 27 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: for it, or anybody's word for it for that matter, 28 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: look at the evidence the federal government's actions. To be exact, 29 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: look at the front page of the New York Times 30 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: where it was reported in twenty twenty, the US intelligence 31 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: agencies had established a program called the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon 32 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: Task Force to quote standardize collection and reporting sightings of 33 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: unexplained aerial vehicles. On the Times website and across the Internet, 34 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: you can find videos of these so called unexplained aerial 35 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: vehicles captured by naval pilots, videos of aircraft moving in 36 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: unearthly ways that defy physics, video footage the Times calls mystifying. 37 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: If you dig an inch deeper, you'll quickly learn about 38 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: the legitimacy of these videos. You'll find countless military personnel 39 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: from the last seventy five years, many highly decorated, many 40 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: who put their credibility on the line. Credibility they spent 41 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: their entire careers building, detailing the very real experiences with 42 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: similar logic, defying aircraft that will lead you to only 43 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: one possible explanation. Aliens exist, They're real. You know what 44 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: else is real? What the government does and does not 45 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: want us to think. Up until about seven years ago, 46 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: it was very evident that the government did not want 47 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: us to think that aliens did indeed exist, or that 48 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: they were real. No, that type of thinking was wrong. 49 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: It was wrong think, very very bad. That thinking was 50 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: for crackpots who spent a little too much time believing 51 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the headlines they read in the supermarket checkout line. And 52 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: there was a time back in the twentieth century when 53 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: the government didn't want us thinking or speaking about much 54 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: more than God, country, and family. And this has all changed, 55 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: of course, the government doesn't care too much these days 56 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: about God, country, and family. But back in nineteen sixty six, 57 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: if you use the wrong type of language language, that 58 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: of course encouraged subversive thinking. If you demonstrated wrong think 59 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: by using the wrong language in public, you'd go to jail. 60 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: Ask comedian Lenny Bruce, who was arrested for saying nine 61 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: specific words ass balls, cocksucker, kunt, fuck, motherfucker, pisshit, and tits. Then, 62 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: six years later, in nineteen seventy two, comedian George Carlin 63 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: had this to say about it. 64 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: Im poor taste, unseemly street talk, got her talk, locker 65 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: room language, barracks talk, body, naughty, saucy, raunchy, rude, crude, lude, less, civious, indecent, profane, obscene, 66 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: blue off cover, risque, suggestive, curson, cussin, swearing, And all 67 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: I could think of was ship is, fuck, huntcok, sucker, motherfucker, 68 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: and kits. 69 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: That bit from Carlin's nineteen seventy two album Class Clown 70 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: was played on WBAI radio in New York. In nineteen 71 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: seventy three. A complaint was filed against the radio station 72 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: and the Federal Communications Commission. That SCC issued a declaration 73 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: backing the complaint, holding the radio station accountable. The complaint 74 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: was filed in court, and it went all the way 75 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, where it was found that, yes, 76 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: under no circumstance does the government want you to say 77 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the words ass balls, cocksucker, count, fuck, motherfucker, pits, shit 78 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: and tits on its airwaves. Count the snotty Southern California 79 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: pop punk band Blink one eighty two among the innumerable 80 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: countercultures of versus who didn't get the Supreme Court's memos 81 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: fuck count cook, sucker, motherfucker, tit Sparter's what separt count 82 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: top sudden mother pucker ti spark turns t buncher bar. 83 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: That's Blink one eighty two's live Staple Family Reunion, which 84 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: is essentially George Carlin's seven Words You Can Never Say 85 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: on television routine set to music. The Boys in Blank 86 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: added fart, turd and twat for good measure, and that 87 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: song was released as a promotional single in nineteen ninety nine. 88 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: Now there's no telling whether or not those lyrics were 89 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: swimming through Blink one eighty two guitarist and co singer 90 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: songwriter Tom Delong's head back in nineteen ninety five while 91 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: he sat handcuffed in the back of a Jacksonville, Florida, 92 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: police cruiser, busted for wandering the streets of Jacksonville drunk 93 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: and carrying an open container while on the group's first 94 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: real tour, Tom was in for a long night in jail, 95 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: a night where Tom's imagination would see him through. It 96 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: was always Tom's ability to dream that delivered him through 97 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: the tough times, through the monotony of a board suburban 98 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: teenage existence, through the bleakness of a grown up prescribed 99 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: adult future in a cubicle or on a construction site, 100 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: through his parents splitting up, through getting expelled from high school. 101 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: They could tell him there was no future, but they 102 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: couldn't make him believe it. The local library back in Powie, California, 103 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: gave his dreams wings. Books about UFOs and the Kennedy assassination. 104 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Punk rock gave him the audacity he needed to question authority. 105 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: Chin have you seen him, Charlie, don't serve California Uberalis. 106 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: All of the subversiveness that was at the core of 107 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: the West Coast punk ethos that Tom DeLong raised himself 108 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: on made it very easy for him to call bullshit 109 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: on the official government narratives aimed at explaining away the 110 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: topics he obsessed over in his local library. The US 111 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Air Force is Roswell report on the nineteen forty seven 112 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: New Mexico UFO crash and the report from the trumped 113 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: up warrant Commission on the assassination of John F. Kennedy Police. 114 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: You ought to be a mindless automaton to accept these 115 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: explanations as anything more than what they obviously were lies 116 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: from a government hell bent on vending the public's perception 117 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: of the truth to its will. On that first Blank 118 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: tour back in nineteen ninety five, Tom's bandmates bassist and 119 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: fellow singer songwriter Mark Hoppis and original drummer Scott Rayner, 120 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: no doubt, had no idea what to think as they 121 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: drove through Dallas's Daily Plaza, the site of President Kennedy's 122 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: assassination thirty two years earlier, and listened to their bandmate 123 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: Tom go on and on over his theory that Kennedy 124 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: was shot because he had learned the truth about aliens, 125 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: and that JFK was going to disclose to the American 126 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: public evidence proving aliens exist. In nineteen ninety five, this 127 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: type of thinking seemed hysterical, but Tom DeLong this type 128 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: of thinking was essential after bouncing from that Jacksonville jail 129 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: with a slap on the wrist after taking in a 130 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: rocket launch in nearby Cape Canaveral, after wrapping a successful 131 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: first tour in ninety five, after breaking through on the 132 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six Warped Tour and capitalizing on a major 133 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: label bidding war, after signing with MCA Records and releasing 134 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: an album that went gold, after parting ways with their 135 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: original drummer, replacing him with the percussive juggernaut that is 136 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: Travis Barker, after casting Alissa Freakin Mulano in their music 137 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: video and downgrading America's collective maturity level a couple notches 138 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: with songs about shitting your pants and getting laid. This 139 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: type of thinking, this hysterical wrong think, was absolutely driving 140 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong to write the lyrics for Blink one eighty 141 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: two song Aliens Exist, a song that nearly everyone laughed 142 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: off as just another example of Blink one eighty two 143 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: staggering level of immaturity, a song with a sentiment that 144 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: would one day compel the United States government to take 145 00:10:45,120 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong as nothing less than dead serious. The United 146 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: States government lets you get away with a lot of things. 147 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: For instance, you can wake up one morning and walk 148 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: into your recording studio and rant into the microphone about 149 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: what a bunch of duplicitous controlling autocrats. The government is 150 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 1: made up of, and depending on the size of your microphone, 151 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: you can pretty much get away with it as I 152 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: am right now. What you can't get away with is 153 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: not forking over to the government. It's peace. It's take Hey. 154 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: If you don't pay the government taxes demands, a massive 155 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: percentage of which is exorbitant and unnecessary, the government will 156 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: apply a vig to the principal amount you owe, which 157 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: will in turn make your debt nearly impossible to pay off. 158 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: Does this sound familiar to you. It sounds to me 159 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: like the mafia. It's the same tax gangsters have used 160 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: for years in their shylock businesses. Perry Farrell, of Jane's Addiction, 161 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: once said, quote the gang and the government are no different, 162 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: and he wasn't wrong, not in principle. The federal government is, 163 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: of course, more evolved and more sophisticated than the mafia. 164 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: If say you're a porn star and U ooh, I 165 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: don't know three hundred thousand dollars in back taxes, now 166 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: you know full well as we all do, that you 167 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: should have paid those taxes. Making tax payments is not 168 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: a new concept, but it's easy to see how entertainers, athletes, 169 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: and those in the workforce who aren't accustomed to coming 170 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: into massive cash windfalls fail to make payments. You get 171 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: paid six hundred grand for a couple of skin flicks, 172 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you have to fork over 173 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: fifty percent to the Feds. Now for a porn star, 174 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: that's hard to swallow. Sorry, I couldn't resist. This is, 175 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: after all, still a Blank one eighty two episode, even 176 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: though I'm talking about tax rates at the moment, But 177 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: I promise this is going somewhere relevant. So anyway, you're 178 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: a porn star who owes three hundred thousand dollars in taxes. 179 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: Now the government is going to act like the mafia 180 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: and blow up your place of business with a pipe bomb, 181 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: but it is going to send agents to your house 182 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: and those fancy windbreakers at an ungodly early morning hour, 183 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: raid your place, take you away in handcuffs, and throw 184 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: you in a federal prison. And that's what happened to 185 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Janine Linda Malder in two thousand and nine. And despite 186 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: the fact that she'd start in a Blink one eighty 187 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: two video ten years earlier, there was nothing she could 188 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: do about it. Janine was going to jail, because, as 189 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong would soon find out, the federal government does 190 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: not fuck around. But back in nineteen ninety nine, Janine 191 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: had no way of knowing that she had other things 192 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: on her mind, like the three skinny naked punk rock 193 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: dudes oggling her on a Los Angeles street corner while 194 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: the cameras rolled. This was a different camera crew than 195 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: Janine was used to. This wasn't a valley production. This 196 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: was more Hollywood. The boys in the band were nice 197 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: enough and funny, despite being wickedly horny. Janine saw real 198 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: quick that the boys in Blank were about to learn 199 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: the hard truth about a skin flick production, and that's 200 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: that being naked in front of scores of people and 201 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: broad daylight. It might be funny or sexy when the 202 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: finished ed it hits screens, but while you're making the thing, 203 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: being naked on set sucks. 204 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: Sure. 205 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: You look all daring and cool running through the streets 206 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: of Hollywood filming your new video for your incredibly catchy 207 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: song What's My Age Again? But then once they call cut, 208 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: you're just a schmuck and a skin colored speedo and 209 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: nothing else on standing on the side of West Third 210 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: in La while dudes in jeep Cherokees drive by and 211 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: give you the finger and launch homophobic slurs at you. 212 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Janine of course thought it was hysterical, so did the 213 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: rest of America. The video that is not the homophobic cutdowns, 214 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: What's My Age Again? Was a massive hit both as 215 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: a video and a single, propelling Blink one eighty two's 216 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: newest album at the time, Enema of the State, to 217 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: sell fifteen million copies, probably more by now. Anema of 218 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: the State also featured the song Aliens Exist, with the 219 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: lyrics Hey Mom, there's something in the back room. Hope 220 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: it's not the creature from above. You used to read 221 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: me stories as if my dreams were boring. We all 222 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: know conspiracies are dumb, and what if people knew that 223 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: these were real? I'd leave my closet door open all night. 224 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: I know what the CIA would say. What you hear 225 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: is all hearsay. I wish someone would tell me what 226 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: was right. Tom DeLong, who wrote those lyrics, though, was 227 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: wrong about the CIA. Someone was in fact about to 228 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: tell them what exactly was right. Enema of the State 229 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: turned Blink one eighty two into a household name, their 230 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: next album, featuring another trademark juvenile Blink title Take Off 231 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Your Pants and Jacket was also a hit. They followed 232 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: that up with a self titled full length in two 233 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: thousand and three. After that effort, the band entered a 234 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: phase that his treacherous ground for any group of self 235 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: respecting rock stars. Adulthood. Life changed for Tom DeLong, Mark Hoppis, 236 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: and Travis Barker. In two thousand and five, Tom quit 237 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: the band to be with his family. In two thousand 238 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: and eight, Travis Barker was in a private plane crash 239 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: in which six people died. He was severely injured, along 240 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: with his friend, a musical collaborator in his group, Travis 241 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: Djam Adam Goldstein aka DJAM, who was driven back into 242 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: addiction after the crash from the trauma of it all. 243 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: He overdosed and died in two thousand and nine, and 244 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: the extremely traumatic event nearly drove Travis to suicide, but 245 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: ultimately he recovered both physically and mentally from the horrible experience. 246 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, Tom DeLong rejoined Blink one 247 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: eighty two and the group embarked on another chapter, touring 248 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: and releasing the full length album Neighborhoods. The album was 249 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: well received critically. It was a progression from their more 250 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: youthful efforts, but was that necessarily a good thing. In 251 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: the end, the album failed to set the world on fire. Then, 252 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: throughout the early odts, and after reuniting with Blink one 253 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: eighty two, Tom DeLong recorded and toured with the side 254 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: project known as Angels and Airwaves. And then in twenty fourteen, 255 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong took a trip out to the desert area 256 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: fifty one Death Valley. Tom awoke in his tent. The 257 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: voices outside in the desert were too many to count, 258 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: too many to comprehend, and they woke them up. They 259 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: weren't human. His fellow campers, one of whom was a 260 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: prominent Fallists, slept soundly in their tents. These sounds were unearthly, 261 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: but still strangely familiar, murmuring, whispering. Tom could hardly understand them. 262 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: He could scarcely hold on to his awareness of them 263 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: over the sound of his steadily beating heart, which was 264 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: now pounding. Those voices, whatever they were, wherever they came from, 265 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: were there right there the edge of perception. But the 266 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: words themselves were impossible to comprehend. And whatever message was 267 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: meant to be translated fell short. Tom couldn't grasp it. 268 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: It floated away that he was awake now, but he 269 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: wasn't conscious, so he couldn't possibly understand the beings, whether 270 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: they were extraterrestrials from worlds far away or ultraterrestrials from 271 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: uncharted dimensions here in this world, whether they were angels 272 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: or demons, or whatever they were. Tom was told they 273 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: communicate through consciousness. They speak to us through high consciousness. 274 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: They compel us in those moments when our minds disassociate 275 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: from this world, when we unplug, when we simply are, 276 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: when we dream, when we pray, perhaps when we ingest psychedelics. 277 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: However we get there, it's that point when all of 278 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: our thoughts, actions and emotions are objectifiable, when we separate 279 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: from the subjective and become conscious. That's when they're whispers, 280 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: their murmurs manifest into messages to permeate our own thoughts. 281 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Perhaps even their messages present to us as our own thoughts. 282 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Perhaps our ideas are on some quantum level, not ideas 283 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: at all, but rather the aliens themselves being born out 284 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: of our own consciousness, pulling us into a higher strangeness 285 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: and moving us closer toward a great later universal understanding. 286 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: But alone, awake and afraid in the tent in the 287 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: middle of the desert, consciousness is unattainable, and therefore so 288 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: is extra or ultra terrestrial communication. So Tom was out, 289 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: but Tom was also in. Whatever he did or did 290 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: not understand out in the desert on that night in 291 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen was enough to compel him to dedicate his 292 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: life to learning more and demanding that the powers that 293 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: be share with the American public what they did or 294 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: did not know. And Tom DeLong knew enough to know 295 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: that the US government knew a lot more about beings 296 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: from other worlds and or other dimensions than they were 297 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: letting on. In short order in twenty fifteen, Tom DeLong 298 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: would quit Blink one eighty two, one of the planet's 299 00:20:53,240 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: biggest rock and roll bands, to go chase UFOs. We'll 300 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: be right back after this. We're we're where. Blink one 301 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: eighty two's Tom DeLong describes alien encounter, says authority's tapped 302 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: his phone. Tom DeLong just proved he's gone completely insane 303 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: during alien ram. I'm not going to say Tom DeLong 304 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: is batshit crazy, but Tom DeLong wants you to stop 305 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: calling him crazy for researching aliens. And that's a smattering 306 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: of what the media had to say about Tom Delong's 307 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: efforts to investigate the legitimacy of alien existence after departing 308 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Blink one eighty two. The Rock and Roll Press was 309 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: predictably the most snarky and also the most disingenuous. Consequence 310 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: of Sound elaborated on their claims that Tom had gone crazy, 311 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: adding this to their cheap hip piece on him. Quote 312 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: former Blink one eighty two member implies he met with 313 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton to discuss the threat of UFOs unquote, when 314 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: in fact Tom did not imply he was meeting with 315 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. That was a presumption the so called journalist 316 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: from Consequence cooked up entirely on his own to make 317 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: Tom look crazy, based on a photo of a meeting 318 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Tom posted to Instagram and then deleted. So is now 319 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: a good time to mention the fact that the CIA 320 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: has had journalists planted in the media since the nineteen 321 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: sixties as part of their secret Operation Mockingbird to help 322 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: shape various narratives to fit the government's view of what 323 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: it wants the public to think. Perhaps, but perhaps that's 324 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: a digression that'll derail this story. Hey, maybe you guys 325 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: can go ahead and look that one up for yourself though, 326 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Operation Mockingbird. Back to Tom DeLong. Remember earlier when I 327 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: said the government doesn't fuck around, Here's what I meant. 328 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: The stakes for the meeting couldn't have been higher. Tom 329 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: used the mix of his celebrity and astute politic he 330 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: to set it up himself in a federal government aerospace. 331 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: It is unconfirmed, but it is widely believed that the 332 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: contractor was Lockheed Martin and their special division Skunk Works. 333 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: The meeting was heavily secured, four layers of security, armed guards, 334 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: and white noise pumping through speakers to scramble any listening 335 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: devices inside the dark, windowless room. Tom was prepared. He 336 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: had the audience he had been building toward for some 337 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: time now. He had a message to deliver. He had 338 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: a reaction to elicit. This was, in some really strange way, 339 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: no different than being on stage. This was a performance 340 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: like any other. Tom explained that the work done by 341 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: the government, the military, and their contractors on UFO phenomena 342 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: was worthy of disclosure, and that the proper way to 343 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: disclose this information to the youth was through culture, through books, 344 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: through comics, through records, through films. Tom wanted to combine 345 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: his celebrity and authentic connection to the un with the 346 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: vast knowledge of the UFO phenomena he had attained over 347 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: the years. One of the contractors Scoffed essentially told Tom 348 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: he was a conspiracy theorist wasting his time, and he 349 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: abruptly left the room. The other contractors followed him, all 350 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: but one, all but the lead contractor, who sat back 351 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: and listened to more of Tom's pitch. The government and 352 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: its contractors were doing great work in this area. Why 353 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: did it all have to be so secret that there 354 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: was so much evidence that it was obvious what the 355 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: truth was. Eventually that truth was going to come out. 356 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: And then what kind of effect would the shocking truth 357 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: about alien existence here on earth have on the American public? 358 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: Could anything be more disruptive to humanity, more life altering 359 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: than the realization that we are not alone in the universe? 360 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: What would this knowledge do to humanity? It would, no 361 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: doubt have a life altering influence on our core beliefs 362 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: as a species, on our thoughts about our place and 363 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: point in this world, about God, about the devil about 364 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: good and evil. It was knowledge, secret knowledge that had 365 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: to be handled and disclosed very cautiously. When Tom finished, 366 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: the government contractor, to Tom's amazement, agreed that slow disclosure 367 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: of the UFO phenomenon via culture, rather than exclusively through 368 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: traditional media, could responsibly bring the public around to the 369 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: mind bending notion that yes, aliens exist. This is the 370 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: part of the story where you call bullshit and I 371 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: don't blame you. Why would a federal defense contractor or 372 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: anyone connected with the federal government in trust a foul 373 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: mouth punk rocker from a band with a nonsensical name 374 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: like Blank one eighty two with disclosing humanity altering information 375 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: to the public. Well, because this is what the government 376 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: has always done. Used cutouts from culture, individuals from the 377 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: world of arts and entertainment, actors, musicians, artists. The government 378 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: has relied on these individuals of influence for the better 379 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: part of a century to get its message to the 380 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: American people. In nineteen fifty four, the CIA secretly funded 381 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: the film adaptation of George Orwell's Animal Farm and its 382 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: efforts to win hearts and minds during the Cold War 383 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: against Communist Russia. To further its winning efforts in the 384 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: Cold War, the CIA secretly bolstered the careers of abstract 385 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: expressionist painters Mark Rothko and Jackson Pollock. These artists were 386 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: unaware of the strings the CIA pulled on their behalf 387 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: to promote them, but the government's message was sent, and 388 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: it was this in America, our artists thrived. In the 389 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: Soviet Union, artists are thrown in prison. As recently as 390 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, the CIA demanded and received script approval for 391 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: the television series The Americans. You know all that long 392 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: expositional dialogue blathering on and on about un regulations in 393 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: the movie Iron Man. Guests who had a production agreement 394 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: in their dirty hands all over the script for that film. 395 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: The CIA, so the federal contractor agreed to help Tom 396 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: and connected him with an unnamed general who confirmed Tom's 397 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: belief in UFO phenomena and agreed that the time was 398 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: now for disclosure. Perhaps the general's thoughts around timing had 399 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: something to do with the hundreds of unidentified aerial phenomena 400 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: being captured on video by the US military personnel. At 401 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: that exact point in time, the news was coming out 402 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: UFOs were no longer relegated to the tabloids lining your 403 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: supermarket checkout. They were being discussed and shown on the 404 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: front page of the New York Times and on the 405 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: nightly news. The dam was breaking. The General agreed to 406 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: connect Tom with experts from the intelligence community, from aerospace, 407 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: and even an expert from the White House, all to 408 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: advise Tom DeLong from Blink Frickin' one eighty two on 409 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: how to take the information he had gathered on his 410 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: own thus far and disclosed the fact that aliens exist. 411 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: With these new contacts, Tom then pulled together a formal 412 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: group of advisors, heavy hitters EXCIA operators, NASA and DoD advisors, 413 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: white House staff, and private sector AI contractors and gathered 414 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: them into a new company he called to the Stars, 415 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: its mission to create culture to help disclose the truth 416 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: about UFOs. Predictably, the press pounced, bubbling down its ire 417 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: on Tom for quitting a beloved punk rock band to 418 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: waste time trying to validate quote unquote conspiracy theories. The 419 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: media was particularly incensed with Tom's intimation that he was 420 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: working with government operators connected to the White House. This 421 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: seemed to be the height delusion. Tom was scorched across 422 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: the Internet doubted, defamed, disgraced by everyone from faceless, cowardly 423 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Internet trolls to the likes of Vice magazine, which issued 424 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: a factually incorrect expose on Tom's company's financial stability, which, 425 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: coming from the bankrupt Vice is, as we now know, 426 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: the height of irony. And then something remarkable happened. So 427 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: what exactly was in that Wiki league stump of DNC emails? 428 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Besides proof that the Democratic Party attempted to subvert the 429 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: campaign of one of its candidates, Bernie Sanders and coronate 430 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: the party's chosen candidate, Hillary Clinton, there were numerous emails 431 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: between Tom DeLong and John Podesta, official counselor to the 432 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: President of the United States Barack Obama and the presidential 433 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: campaign manager at the time to the former Secretary of 434 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: State Hillary Clinton and one time deputy chief of staff 435 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: to President Bill Clinton. The emails detailed Tom's disclosure plan 436 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: with Podesta, who became a public advocate for UFO disclosure 437 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: upon leaving the White House, and the emails also detailed 438 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: an in person meeting between Tom and Podesta and other 439 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: high level government and military operatives. All of a sudden, 440 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: the Dick Joe cracking UFO chasing guitar player from Blink 441 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: one eighty two didn't look so crazy, and Tom doubled down. 442 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, one of his official to the Stars advisors, 443 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: lou Elizondo, who previously ran the Pentagon's secret government program 444 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: formed to study UFO phenomena, leaked three videos captured by 445 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: military pilots showing unidentified aerial phenomena flying off the east 446 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: coast of the United States. Let me say all that again, 447 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong, the Blank one eighty two guy hired away 448 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: the Pentagon official who ran the government's secret program to 449 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: study UFOs. The government once adamantly denied the existence of 450 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: but reverse course on it admitted that yes, the program 451 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: did exist, and that millions of dollars were secretly funneled 452 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: to this program to study alien and aerial phenomena, and 453 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: that guy helped Tom leak the video showing that aerial phenomena, 454 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: and that then, and this is the point, the government 455 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: itself officially declassified that video in twenty twenty, in effect 456 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: confirming that the video Tom DeLong leaked back in twenty 457 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: seventeen was real, and also in the process effectively emitting 458 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: the existence of aliens as reported in the New York Times. 459 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, the government admitted that it had 460 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: no explanation for the aerial objects and stopped just short 461 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: of ruling out aliens. Again, the government stopped short of 462 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: ruling out aliens. Tom DeLong, the guitarists from Blink one 463 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: eighty two, did that this guy? What would you guys 464 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: do if this happened to me? What would you do 465 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: if you were like sleeping and you feel like a 466 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: slight tapping on your body and you ain't up to 467 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: be like what? And you look down and your brother 468 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: is going, mister, you do what to do and walks 469 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: up your legs. He's like walking up your. 470 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: Leggs and he goes and zips down your zipper and 471 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: grabs that did go old? 472 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: It happened to me three times last night. I thought 473 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: your back. Mark Hoppis of Blink one eighty two was sick, 474 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: really sick. It was twenty twenty one and there was 475 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: no Blink one eighty two. Actually, so I should say 476 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: that Mark Hoppis, formerly of Blink one eighty two, was sick. 477 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: He didn't mean to post the Foe photo of him 478 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: receiving his first round of chemotherapy to his million plus 479 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: followers on Instagram. He had a witty caption for the 480 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: photo of him sitting there in his La Dodgers hat, 481 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: thick black framed glasses, and comfy Birkenstock sandals over blue socks, 482 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: and the caption read yes, Hello, one cancer treatment please. 483 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: Mark meant for the image to be shared only with 484 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: his close friends on Instagram, but he messed up his 485 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: settings and the image went wide for all of his followers. 486 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: And there's no telling if Mark's ex bandmate Tom DeLong 487 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: was included in Mark's close friends setting on Instagram or 488 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: if he was part of Mark's wider set of impersonal 489 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: account followers, but regardless, when Tom learned of Mark's diagnosis, 490 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: he knew he was going to do something he thought 491 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: he would never do again, play music with Blink one 492 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: eight two. Tom has since been quoted as saying, when 493 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: he told me he was sick, that was like the 494 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: gnarliest nothing matters, really, DeLong continued. It wasn't about fame 495 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: or money or how big Blink was or anything. It 496 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna get through this shit and we're 497 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna go dominate. You need a purpose in life, especially 498 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: when you're sick and fighting for your life. Tom DeLong 499 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: knew all about needing purpose. He'd been purpose driven for 500 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: the better part of the last decade. Unfortunately, that purpose, 501 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Tom's mission to disclose the truth about aliens often ran 502 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: up against Tom's earlier passion playing music with Blink one 503 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: eighty two. But that was all about to change. Blink 504 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: one eighty two reunited and Mark Hoppus beat cancer, Tom, 505 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: Mark and Travis are back on stage, stadium stages. There 506 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: are less Dick jokes, but they're still there. And now 507 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: there's another element of Blink sets That moment when Mark 508 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: leans into the mic and says Tom was right, freaks 509 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: out because they know what's coming. Blink's nineteen ninety nine 510 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: banger from Enema of the State Aliens exist. The vindication 511 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: is palpable, if not juvenile, but that's what it should be. 512 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: This is, still, after all, rock and roll, and even 513 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: though the boys in Blink one eighty two are all 514 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: either in or about to be in their fifties, rock 515 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: and roll is still the province of youth. It's juvenile 516 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a weird sort 517 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: of wisdom that only kids process they're wise enough to dream, 518 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: to question authority unequivocally and without shame. Rock and roll, 519 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: punk rock, whatever you want to call it, is a 520 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: rebellion against growing up, against accepting adult mandates that stifle creativity, 521 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: your imagination, and your ability to dream. Blink one eighty 522 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: two and Tom DeLong knew this when they were young 523 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: punks playing shows in southern California, and they never lost 524 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: sight of it. Tom DeLong never accepted the grown up 525 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: notion that dreams and big ideas and thinking outside of 526 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: the prefabricated suburban box where the type of childish thoughts 527 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: that adults need to put aside because well, grown ups suck, 528 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: and the federal government and the media are filled with grownups, 529 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: the majority of whom lack imagination and the courage needed 530 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: to make Like those old punk rockers in question authority, 531 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong did something no other civilian has ever done, 532 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: compelled the federal government to disclose previously unacknowledged truths about 533 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: alien existence here on Earth. The question now isn't whether 534 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: or not aliens exist, as Blink one eight two saying 535 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: about in nineteen ninety nine. The question is why the government, 536 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: or at least some part of the government now wants 537 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: us to know this truth. Why have they reached some 538 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: sort of unofficial partnership with Tom DeLong? My theory is 539 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: that there's more coming. Much more advanced radar systems are 540 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: what made it possible for those naval pilots back in 541 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: the late oughts to capture that UAP footage. What technology 542 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: are we developing currently that will similarly unveil deeper truths 543 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: about extra and ultra terrestrials? Will the AI revolution irrefutably 544 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: prove alien existence in a way that the automaton bureaucrats 545 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: and the disinterested public won't be able to ignore. Does 546 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: this coming onslaught of technological truth worry the government enough 547 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: to compel it toward more disclosure. Perhaps it's just a theory. 548 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: It's just me dreaming, just like Tom DeLong from Blank 549 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: one two, whose mission is anything but a disgrace. I'm 550 00:37:49,400 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland. 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