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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. Guess what day it is. Guess

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Speaker 1: what day it is. It's the twenty seventh of October

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. But that's not the relevant part. It's

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Speaker 1: MK Day, It's hump Day, It's Wednesday. It's get you

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Speaker 1: ready for the weekend day, at least the first part

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Speaker 1: of getting ready, because we'll do that on Friday as well.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome to the show. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I am one half of your hosting duo. I join

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Speaker 1: you from the capital of Losi of status a nidos

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. But I am joined as

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Speaker 1: always by the drug rug Ray, the King of Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: the felon mister Misdemeanor himself. It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: What's up, dude, Luke back, I've got a Dalmatian and

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Speaker 2: I can still get high. You know what I'm saying, Luke,

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Speaker 2: We can also play that guitar like a mother riot

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Speaker 2: on this show, Luke, because this is the best damn

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Speaker 2: Combat Sports show period. Actually so great to be back

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Speaker 2: on it on a No Jay Wednesday. Fired the hell up,

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Speaker 2: and Luke, I mean, let's not bury the lead with

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Speaker 2: the merch. You made a drug rug reference. This is

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Speaker 2: a hell of a day for Morning Combat Merch history. Okay,

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Speaker 2: smoke them if you got them. Rah rah, it's that time.

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Speaker 2: Can I go there, Luke, I'm going there all right.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there were like two times you made

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Speaker 1: nineties references there and the counter didn't go up either time.

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Speaker 2: Well as you, as you often tell our staff, it's

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Speaker 2: not your fault. You were born in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: You know that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Here post high school.

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Speaker 2: Luke, let's just say it. It's real today, it really happened.

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Speaker 2: Morningcombat Dot Store the best website for podcast merch. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, probably ever you asked for it by name.

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Speaker 2: You gonna fucking get it. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: The drug rugs, they're not here yet, but you can

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Speaker 2: order them today on Morningcombat dot Store preorder. So here's

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Speaker 2: the deal, folks, A special price if you pre order today.

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Speaker 2: And what's that price? Sixty nine, dude, sixty nine sixty

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Speaker 2: nine is our pre order price. They'll be shipped November third.

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Speaker 2: The pre ordering starts right now, So if you already

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Speaker 2: got that great BC Hawaiian shirt in your closet, you

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Speaker 2: might as well add a drug rug. Luke. I could

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Speaker 2: not get our merch masters to confirm this, but I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping at least one in ten purchasers of our MK

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Speaker 2: drug rug find some type of paraphernalia in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: I got coffee stains in my pocket, but some type

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Speaker 2: of paraphernalia in there, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they'll find your gum wrappers and maybe, uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what they're gonna find, but

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Speaker 1: that's the whole joy of getting a drug rug. You

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Speaker 1: just don't know what kind of narcotics may or may

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Speaker 1: not be smuggled inside of them. But there's one place

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Speaker 2: I've never heard the term drug rug before our staff

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Speaker 2: used it. I called it a Mexican sweatshirt. Is that racist?

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Speaker 2: That's what we called it, Luke. I'm sorry, I'll take

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Speaker 2: that out of my vocabulary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little racist. I mean, at a bare minimum,

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Speaker 1: is just inaccurate. Are they even Mexican?

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Speaker 2: No, it's just ignorant, Luke, it's just factory town speak.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna let's.

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Speaker 1: See vault Mexican sweat shut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I'm saying, though, Luke, you know we

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Speaker 2: you gave an interesting soliloquy during Doc five about what

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Speaker 2: go back and repair the patchwork done on his youth today? Finally, Luke,

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Speaker 1: Not cool, and that's okay. You don't have to be,

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Speaker 2: How about that? How about the damn wheel Luke, how

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Speaker 2: about the damn Wheel? Oh?

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Speaker 1: How could I forget? The Wheel of Death is back.

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Speaker 1: So we got a busy show today, so no time

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Speaker 1: a drug rug. I don't know. There's lots of ways

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Speaker 1: you could spend your one of these days, but that's

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Speaker 1: with Showtime. If you go to showtime dot com, give

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Speaker 1: us a help us scam the Apple podcast algorithm. Leave

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Speaker 1: us a five star review. If you're funny enough, we'll

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Speaker 1: sling you some cash. But you gotta make it funny, okay.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, there are people who have made

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Speaker 1: While I appreciate the humor, it's very, very funny. You

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Speaker 1: by the sword, die by it too. But the cash

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Speaker 1: only comes with a five star, So there you go. BC.

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Speaker 1: Are we forgetting anything any housekeeping notes? I think that's everything, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, Luke. What a time, by the way,

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Speaker 2: what a time to be alive. Not only UFC two

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Speaker 1: a little bit today, going to talk a bit about storylines,

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's probably not a lot of

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Speaker 1: At the end of the night, all right, he might,

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Speaker 2: if he's coming back. Yeah, TJ. Dillashaw may have earned

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Speaker 2: a title shot with that win over Sanjega, But to

426
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 2: your point, it was disputed. It was a pick them

427
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Speaker 2: either way on the decision, so it just kind of

428
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 2: worked out that these two are fighting. But Luke, these

429
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Speaker 2: are the two best fighters in the division. No, they

430
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 2: really are. And you're saying, well, we see, how can

431
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 2: you say that? Didn't Al Joe finished saying he did

432
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: shout out to al Joe on that, But right now,

433
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Speaker 2: I think these are the two best fighters. It's an

434
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Speaker 2: incredible style matchup, and you know, I almost think UFC

435
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 2: could have just said, look, we didn't f it up,

436
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 2: but the whole situation's kind of affed up, so why

437
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: don't we just fix it by making this for the

438
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Speaker 2: full title. They're not gonna do that, they don't necessarily

439
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 2: have to do that, but I think they could have

440
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 2: done that and we would have been all right. I

441
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: just want to see business get back as usual, and

442
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 2: I think we all do. And obviously some of that

443
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 2: is just waiting on Al Jae to see if, if,

444
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: and when he can come back. Same thing with TJ.

445
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: And then you know, we'll find out what happens from there,

446
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: because there's plenty plenty of old and young names in

447
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: here that we want to see fight for the title

448
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: or contend for a chance to We got to get

449
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: the wheels back on the on the road here, Luke

450
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: can get this thing going, and this is probably the

451
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 2: best case scenario. Seriously, these two fighting each other right now.

452
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: I can't fricking wait for this fight, Luke. I don't

453
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: think you could tell me five better fights the UFC

454
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Speaker 2: can make. I'm not talking about star studed fights. I'm

455
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: just talking about great fights between two likes pound for

456
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: pound level guys like this is kind of as good

457
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: as it gets, right, Tell me I'm wrong, Luke, just trying.

458
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: It's up there, It's up there. I guess my other

459
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: question about this would be the what would you rather see?

460
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: Because the winner of this will have to quote unquote

461
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: unify with current champion Algebin Sterling. What would you rather

462
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: see Yon versus Sterling two, which was a more interesting

463
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: bout but turned out to be I think in the

464
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: end somewhat one sided, or the Sanhagan bout, which was

465
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Speaker 1: one sided the other way? What gives san Haagen room

466
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 1: for redemption given how badly he lost in their first encounter.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Well, look either one, either one

468
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: to be fair, But yes to you to your point,

469
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: did we I don't know. It's it's unfair to Ali

470
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: Joe to say I think we learned what we were

471
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna learn from what we saw on that Jan al

472
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: Jo fight. Jan was winning, There's no doubt about it.

473
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: He was, you know, kind of winning handily. But you know,

474
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Speaker 2: let's just let it play out, Luke, I don't know

475
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Speaker 2: if I have a preference out of the two. I

476
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: just want al Jo and Dila Shaw. I want this

477
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 2: division back, you know, on a on a regular schedule again,

478
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 2: and I want both to get a chance to fight

479
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: for the title. Look, do you think there's a chance

480
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: they end up fighting each other? Do you think there's

481
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: a chance that after this fight, Dila Shaw comes back

482
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: and fights al Jo for the full title, knowing that

483
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: the winner has to face the winner of this one.

484
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: Are we in a final four and we don't know it?

485
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: No? I think what's going to happen is obviously someone's

486
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: gonna win this bout, and then the winner of that

487
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: will fight al Jamaine, and then the winner of that

488
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: will fight TJ. Dillashaw. I think TJ is gonna be

489
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: on ice for a while actually with his injuries, not

490
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: because UOC sidelining him, but because you know, he's he's

491
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty five abands and wait, you know, not young.

492
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: Not the end of the world. He looked good, but

493
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: not young. So something to keep in mind. There's a

494
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: lot of good fights on this card, We're a little

495
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: bit short on time. Anything else stand out to you

496
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: about the What about the UFC two sixty seven card

497
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: is utterly phenomenal. I think the last thing I would

498
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: say in terms of what stands out to MEBC very quickly,

499
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: you've got this return of Hamzat Chimaya. Yes, and hardly

500
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: anybody's talking about it. It is shocking.

501
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: It is very shocking. There's so many layers to the

502
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: story here that I love one. There's a badass fight

503
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: against the leech leon. How do we look. I want

504
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: to say that right. I want to say it right.

505
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Speaker 1: It's not leone jing Lie jying lang.

506
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I'm gonna I promise I'll be better on that.

507
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: The damn leech Luke is is no easy comeback fight.

508
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: And I don't think what we're talking about enough is

509
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: like Chamaya was banged up multiple times by COVID, he

510
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: was hospitalized. He kind of publicly retired, although we don't

511
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: know like the fuel of his emotions in that moment.

512
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: It took what your boy could drive have to come

513
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: out publicly be like he haint retired. You know, we're

514
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 2: gonna make sure he keeps a fight. And believe me,

515
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: I just think that there are a lot of questions

516
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: regarding Tamaiav's physical you know, standing coming in here, whether

517
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: he can be the same fighter. I mean, he comes

518
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: in Luke as your betting favorite in this one pretty

519
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: handily at minus five point fifty. But I don't know

520
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: how we can be confident under any situation that he's

521
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: going to be the exact same guy he was during

522
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: that two month stretch of twenty twenty when he scored

523
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: three wins in rapid succession and by stoppage and kind

524
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: of just said, look, I'll fight for your title in

525
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: two different divisions tomorrow. You know, we don't even know

526
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: Luke if that version of him in that two months

527
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: is really who he is, because sometimes a guy Kevin

528
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: Holland can get hot in a short period of time.

529
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: So all of this just bleeds into Saturday night. Meaning

530
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: this is some improved me theater that I cannot wait

531
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: to see because Hamzad has looked to be everything in

532
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: terms of the goods, but the Leech is the kind

533
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: of guy that if you ain't right, he's gonna find

534
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: out find out quick.

535
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would argue this is by far his toughest

536
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: UFC test today. Now we've seen some guys get pretty

537
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: bad COVID and come back and look okay, look great,

538
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: even even in the case of Champ Alexander Volkanowski. So

539
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: like anything else, the there's a variety of responses to

540
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: this kind of thing, although the one that Comsat Tremaiah

541
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: had was a really bad version of it, or at

542
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: least he exacerbated it by the way he was living

543
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. So I tend to think

544
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: he'll probably come back and look okay. I'd actually think

545
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: the bigger issue for me is not so much the

546
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: COVID overhaul or a long haul, but rather, dude, Leech

547
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: is talented. He's a good grappler, he has tons of energy,

548
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: he can fight three rounds, no problem. I think Gerald

549
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: Mierschrotz a good opponent for Tremayav. But you know, he

550
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: got blasted out so quickly we didn't really get a

551
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: chance to see much. And then the other two opponents

552
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: he hadn't fight out fine, but they were not up

553
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: to the level of what you see this time. This

554
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: is actually a really good test for him. To me,

555
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: I'm finally gonna get okay. There was all that huge

556
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: push for him, and I was making the point, I'm like, dude,

557
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: shofcot Monov has beaten way better opponents and there's hardly

558
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: any buzz for this kid. And he's fucking awesome. This

559
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: is the first time I'm feeling like, okay, this is

560
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: this is now We're going to be getting to see

561
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: some real information about the real, true upside of Tremaiev.

562
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: That's also great matchmaking. Great I mean, leech leach, just

563
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: one punch ponzinibbio in the first round. I mean, look,

564
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: this is great ass matchmaking. So I'm excited. It's free.

565
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: Tones, Yeah, it's free. Can you believe it? I mean, oh, well,

566
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: well you have to have ESPN Plus, but if you

567
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: have that, it's free. Yes. Tremendous car, tremendous car. Let's

568
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: move to topic number two in the interest of time

569
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: BC if we can, we'll talk about the twenty twenty

570
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: one PFL World Championships here. They're coming up the biggest

571
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: story that is just everywhere, and we're actually gonna cover

572
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: this in a bit of two different places. Is first

573
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: the Kayla Harritt. Well, you know what we might have

574
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: to bump topic three of this, Well, you know, we'll

575
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: talk about it with Nate. How about this our rundown's

576
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: not that great. Let's start here. Harrison's gonna take it on.

577
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Taylor Guardado. She is a massive favorite BC minus sixty

578
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: five hundred. This fight is tomorrow, it's her last fight

579
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: on the card, which or last fight on her PFO contract.

580
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: I should say, we'll talk about that in a second.

581
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: I guess the first thing I would say is, since

582
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: this fight is tomorrow, any chance in your mind at

583
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: all that Harrison takes an l.

584
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: Not at all? I mean, I mean she's a minus

585
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: sixty five hundred favorite. When do you see that in

586
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: elit MMA? What was that? What was the line that

587
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Valentina Chefchenko was when she was originally going to challenge

588
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: Nico Montagno, and it was it's set a record for

589
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: the largest favorite. Happened?

590
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Of course, Well you're doing that. I will look that up.

591
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: It was like minus fifty thousand, right, This feels like that.

592
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: No disrespect to Guardado again, I said before, she got

593
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: a good story in the lead up to this. But

594
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean there are levels to this, Luken, you know

595
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: she's not on this level. She's just not. I'm not.

596
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: You know.

597
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: The skill gap is insanely wide here, So I don't

598
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: expect anything less than quick and utter domination from Harrison,

599
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: who doesn't f around, is all serious all the time,

600
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: is has been really winning all of these interviews and

601
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: press events. I think in every category from free agency

602
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: to you know, all the things people are asking her.

603
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: This is her chance once again to be crowned as

604
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: queen of not just this division, but really PFL in general.

605
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: She's the face of what they're doing in so many ways. Luke,

606
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure plus twenty two hundred on Guardado

607
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: is fair and accurate enough, Luke. She she know she

608
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: struggled in her semi final bowt. I think to what

609
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: barely get a split decision there as a late replacement

610
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: in a fight that that didn't look like, you know,

611
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: at lead high level. So we know what we're gonna

612
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: get from this. The real question and conversation is the

613
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: recurring one we're having about what happens next with Kayleb.

614
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say quickly about this fight. I looked

615
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: at the odds. Chevchenko was at about a minus fifteen hundred.

616
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: We're talking minus sixty five hundred in current places. Some

617
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: places have hers as low as minus five thousand. There's

618
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: one that's minus thirty five hundred. But in general, you know,

619
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about extraordinarily from an odds perspective, impossible to

620
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: imagine a case where Guardatto wins. She's out of extreme

621
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: cotur camp. I like what you know, I don't think

622
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: she's on par necessarily with Harrison, but I like her

623
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: as a fighter. I think she's got some upside. Potentially

624
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: we'll have to see. But okay, let's get to this

625
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: or just a little bit here.

626
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Look, I don't think she'd win a fight in UFC.

627
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: I think the gap is actually more than just Harrison's dominance.

628
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: I think they don't have anybody in this division, which

629
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: is why signing Julia bud very under the radar. And

630
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: by the way, she'll make her PFL debut on the

631
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: undercart of this championship card. That's a very strong move

632
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: moving forward if you want to try to keep Kayla.

633
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean they're trying to find actual people

634
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: with her who I think hardcore fans might know could

635
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: be like a good physical match for her. Like one

636
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Speaker 1: thing about Julia, if she's a great athlete, I think

637
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Speaker 1: a lot of times Harrison has fought people who were

638
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Speaker 1: not just technically inferior to her, but they were massively

639
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with her athletic prowess. But seems to be much

640
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: more of a sturdy challenge. Has faced the very best

641
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Speaker 1: of her generation, sometimes lost, you know in certain cases obviously,

642
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: but Harrison would be, bet would be that would be

643
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Speaker 1: a good challenge for her, for sure.

644
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is tonight, Luke. I want to get this right.

645
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Speaker 2: This is tonight, October twenty certain.

646
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: Yes, they waited yesterday. What am I saying? The fights

647
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: arts and I apologize, I am, I am all over

648
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: the place, So we expect her to win. I want

649
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: to talk about the free agency thing in just a second.

650
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the other fights on this card.

651
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Speaker 1: B see one thing that doesn't get any mention. I

652
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: just want to put this out. Don Madge is on

653
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Speaker 1: this card against Nathan Williams. Do you know who Don

654
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: Madge is? Uh No, Okay, so dude, Don Madge was

655
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: this guy out of South Africa and he fought in

656
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: the UFC and he fought this guy named T Edwards,

657
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: T Edwards, k Orte Edwards, whatever his name was. He

658
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: came off the Contender series. I watched his fight. He

659
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: looked like the new Josh Koshtak like co Check two

660
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: point zero, I mean, built like a fucking brick shit house.

661
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: He was yoked, okay, and Don Madge fucked him up

662
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: to the point where I don't even know if Tiawors

663
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: has fought since then, and if he did, I don't

664
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Speaker 1: think he won. Do Don Madge put it on him?

665
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: In fact, I think he had two fights in the

666
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: UFC and won them both. But I think he was

667
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: stuck in South Africa with the pandemic and visa issues

668
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and blah bla blah blah blah. Well here he is

669
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: now fighting for PFL. To me, this is a coup

670
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: that they signed him in Bellatore didn't or UFC didn't

671
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: pick him back up or whatever. He is a primo

672
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: talent and he's fighting on this PFL car. So look

673
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: out for Don Madge. A funenomenal fighter and great striking.

674
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: But we got to talk about Clarissa Shields. She's taken

675
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: on Abigail Montes.

676
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: Now.

677
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Speaker 1: Shields is favored somewhat heavily, about a minus two thirty

678
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Speaker 1: two forty in certain places our friends over its. Hees

679
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: a sportsbook cover at a minus two forty BC. I

680
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: have to tell you I find what she is doing

681
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: so admirable, and the reason why is We had talked

682
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: for years, what would it mean if you got a

683
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: high level boxer to actually come over to MMA, And

684
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: for all the many reasons we had ever stated it

685
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't work, whether it was just the training would be

686
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: too hard, too late, and about the money and blah

687
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: blah blah and where they would go, Shields is giving

688
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: it the old college try. And I don't know if

689
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: she's gonna win. She's favored, but I have so much admiration,

690
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: even if it's for monetary reasons, that she is throwing

691
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: herself into this kind of a fire.

692
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's young enough where this type of full time

693
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: effort and full time with an asterisk because she is

694
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: planning on defending her boxing titles to keep that going

695
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: while she sort of navigates, you know, and look at

696
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: her success in the short term of MMAM may dictate that,

697
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: but you know, she's all in. I mean, she's in

698
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: that gym in New Mexico every single day with Holly

699
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: Holm and John Jones and everyone else working and you

700
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: see the results of that. That was great match making

701
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: her first NUT fight against Britney Elk, in which she

702
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: kind of was losing most of it until she wasn't

703
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: as Luke Thomas would say, and I'm really interested in

704
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: the second fight. It seems to be smart level of

705
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: matchmaking somebody with the small amount of experience. I don't

706
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: know the danger level and her opponent here, but this

707
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: will give us a lot more answers in terms of

708
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Speaker 2: what we're getting. And I think Shields has such a

709
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: fighting spirit that it's must see TV every time she

710
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: gets in there. So smart move we set up before

711
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: We'll say it again to put her on this championship card.

712
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: I like what pfl's doing, but look, you can't bury

713
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: the lead on the fight of the night on this card.

714
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, look, I'll talk about Cloris all

715
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: day with you, but how are you going to look

716
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: past this comain event and just be like, oh yeah,

717
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: let's go further on down the card. I mean, can

718
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Speaker 2: you be responsible?

719
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Well, it is the co main event. I just thought

720
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: that Clarissa's Shields. I'll just say this very quickly since

721
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: we're going to move on. I'm not expecting a dramatic

722
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: improvement from her first fight, but there are a couple

723
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: of decisions in the takedown defense department I'm looking to see,

724
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: to see exactly how far she can push this experiment

725
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: to your point. Macca Man Maga Man Karamov taken on

726
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: Ray Cooper the Third. Ray Cooper the Third and absolute

727
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: bulldozer out of Hawaii has beaten so many good names

728
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: that folks just did not expect him to do. Quiet

729
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: guy doesn't say a whole lot. Macamn Karamov though, is

730
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: bad at nothing. BC. Where do you see this one

731
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: ending up?

732
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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for this fight. It's the best fight

733
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: on the card. I thought, you know, all year it

734
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: would be Ray Cooper against Roy McDonald, which we ended

735
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: up randomly seeing because of that Glison tebow weird scorecard.

736
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Speaker 2: We saw that earlier in the playoffs and Cooper absolutely

737
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: dominated him. Now this has become the fight they've got history.

738
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: The twenty eighteen PFL Championship at Walter Wait was these

739
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: two against one another and it was Malcolm D. Karamov

740
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: who won a decision. But Luke, I just feel like

741
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: Ray Cooper is a better fighter from those days. His

742
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: evolution has been really fun to see, great you know,

743
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: top game and wrestling, aggressive goes after it seems to

744
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: be more efficient and in his strikes than he used

745
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: to be. And Luke, I don't know if you want

746
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: to cross reference some biblical Samson references here, but did

747
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: you see that that incredible lock of hair that Cooper

748
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: took nine years according to Ariel's tweets to grow, has

749
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: he had to cut it to make championship? Wait? Did

750
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: you see that shit?

751
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: Luke?

752
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: I did not see that.

753
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: So he's going to be coming in here, bald headed,

754
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: ready to redeem, you know. One of his most recent

755
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: long He also took a loss to former UFC VET

756
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: John Howard a couple of years back in PFL. But

757
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: Ray Cooper's is a defending welterweight champion. The last time

758
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: they did a tournament twenty nineteen, he had lost the

759
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen tournament in the finals to Mago met magom

760
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: met Karamoff. So storytelling wise, Luke, this is a great

761
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: rematch at a great time. Margo met Karamoff a minus

762
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: two ten favorite Ray Cooper plus one seventy five. Luke,

763
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 2: we know what Margo met Karamoff can do on the ground.

764
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: You asked me how I see this fight playing out.

765
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see a lot on the ground,

766
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: but I wonder when it's on the feet. If Ray

767
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Cooper can outstrike him and really try to get an

768
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: edge to get to get past him, it's gonna be

769
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of an uphill battle. Because Malcolm met

770
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Speaker 2: Karamoff has been lights out this year in PFL.

771
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: He's been tremendous. By the way, I'm looking at this card,

772
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: there's a ton of UFC vets on here. I mean,

773
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ you can go all the way down or

774
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Belatar two I mentioned don match.

775
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: Jesus is not on this card. Luke, he didn't tap,

776
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 2: by the way, but he's not on this card.

777
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: He's always on the cards. Caitlyn Young was an invictedgud Well.

778
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: It was over in Bellator. Amari Akmetov is on his card.

779
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: Of course, he was in UFC. Jordan Young for a time.

780
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: Rausch Menfio is the guy who beat Anthony Pettis. By

781
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: the way, here we are on the championships, no Pettis

782
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: and no McDonald. It's something of a proof of concept

783
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: for PFL. Probably not the results they exactly wanted, but

784
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: it does sort of show that they've got some talent

785
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: over there that should not be overlooked, even if they

786
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: don't have the celebrity name factor attached to him.

787
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who I'm not going to be overlooking tonight, Luke.

788
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: It's in the Heavyweight Championship tournament final here when Bruno

789
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: Capaloza remember him. We started to really get on him

790
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: the last couple of fights that he's been climbing the ladder.

791
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Good slugger. I think he's brasilient. He'll be the slight

792
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: betting favorite against Anti, Delijah and Anti. How do I

793
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: pronounce that, Luke? Can you please? I don't know. I

794
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: don't know anyway, Luke, Bruno has been putting it on people.

795
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: I like his striking. He's competent on the ground. He's

796
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: a big dude. This is going to be interesting because

797
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: I think of anybody this calendar year for PFL besides

798
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: it's Kayala Harrison maybe besides Malcolm ed kermof Kapollo's has

799
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Speaker 2: gotten my attention the most.

800
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: H Yeah. He has been an absolutely heavy handed, dynamic

801
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: striker this entire time. Also on the card, dude movelet Hubble.

802
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: I have taken on Chris Wade. Chris Wade former UFC VET,

803
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: also Shoeface, Antonio Carlos Junior, also former UFC VET taken

804
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: on Martin.

805
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the light heavyweight championship out, Luke. That should

806
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: be a good one.

807
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: This whole card is excellent. Hey, BC. Is PFL going

808
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: to have like forty five different meaningless stats on the

809
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: screen at all times for this event?

810
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: Probably? Probably? And you know, do they always do they

811
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: reach out to us to try to get interviews and

812
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: then and then not respond back and then question us

813
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: on our reach of our show and all that Probably too, Luke.

814
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: There's probably a history there. But I will say I'm

815
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: very interested in this card. They've had a great year,

816
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: they really have, and I hope that their their fight

817
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: card tonight really comes through to continue to echo that.

818
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Also, I just have to say they call their cage

819
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: the smart Cage. To this day, I don't know what

820
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: is smart about that cage. I don't know if it

821
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: calls Uber eats for you or you can like use

822
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: it like Alexa to like get the weather and then

823
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: some songs. I don't know what about it is so smart,

824
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: but they love calling it the smart cage just the same, Okay, BC,

825
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: So let's talk free agency. We mentioned Cale.

826
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Very Jerry Seinfeld of you, what's the deal.

827
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: Well, I just don't. I mean, you know, we're in

828
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: the PFL smart cage, motherfucker. What is smart about it? Nothing?

829
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: It's not smart at all. It's barely a cage. Yeah,

830
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: that's great.

831
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you know, can you put more meaningless

832
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: numbers on the screen? Please? All right, let's talk about

833
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: this topic. Number three, Dana White talks free agency. There's

834
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: two different situations to pick up our piggyback off of

835
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: the conversation about PFL. Let's start with Kayla Harrison. This

836
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: is the last fight on Kayla Harrison's PFL contract, which

837
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: of course makes us wonder is she going to sign

838
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: again with PFL and make just a fuck ton of

839
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: money just clubbing up people who are no match for her?

840
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Or is she going to try and get some bigger

841
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: fights in a bigger name with UFC. Here's what Dan

842
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: of White had to say about it. Quote, Caitlyn Harrison's

843
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: a great example. PFL pays her an obscene amount of

844
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: money to fight over there. If I was her, I'd

845
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: stay right where she is and keep picking off the

846
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: people over here. I think she means there when you

847
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: come to here, to the UFC. Amanda Nunez is no joke.

848
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 1: Chief Chenko is no joke. Rosmama unis is no joke.

849
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: These are all the best women in the world. These

850
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: are the best female fighters in the world. I don't

851
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: blame her. I would stay there and keep finding the

852
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: type of women she's fighting there before I would come

853
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: here and fight in Amanda Nunez BC. I don't know

854
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: why he's bringing up fighters terribly below her weight class.

855
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: I think I know why. I think he heard my

856
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: uh call me crazy idea for women's heavyweight in the

857
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: UFC one thirty five to one fifty five is that window.

858
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: So he's like, hey, maybe Rose can move up, you know.

859
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make of his statements here? I'll

860
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: tell you very quickly. It seems to me he's obviously

861
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: just trying to lower her value because he does want

862
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: to sign her and then doesn't want to pay a

863
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: bunch of money to do it.

864
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely public negotiation one on one to be like, hey,

865
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: you're making a ton of money over there. We don't

866
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: pay our fighters a ton of money here unless you're

867
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: in the very, very very one percent there. You know,

868
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: even John s Nash will tell you off the record

869
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: probably that these people are getting paid very well, but look,

870
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: luc it comes off as crass and ridiculous. It's interesting, though,

871
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: because she has a very important decision to make, you know,

872
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: go to Belator and set up a big cyborg fight

873
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: and be a big free agent and make a lot

874
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: of money there if they can back up the truck

875
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: or go to UFC. And it seems by Dana's comments here,

876
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: they're not going to back up the truck. But that

877
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: does offer her, you know, a chance, an awkward chance.

878
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: I say awkward because she's regularly training at att with

879
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: Amanda Nutists, So an awkward chance at you know, climbing

880
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: the top quickly and going in there and making a

881
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: run for Amanda new ness to go. I mean, look,

882
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of history to be made there. Can

883
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: she make the same money there? Based on Dana's comments here,

884
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. And you have to wonder what

885
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: pfl's offer to try to keep her will be because

886
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: she is in a good spot, although the spirit of

887
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: Data's comments are you know, pointed, she's also in a

888
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: great spot with PFL. The competition pool is not that deep,

889
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: but they got Julia, butden there they're gonna probably try

890
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: to you know, again I've said it before. Go after

891
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: Megan Anderson, go after anybody with a pulse who can make,

892
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: you know, get close to Kayla's weight, who can fill

893
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: out a tournament bracket here, But Kayla makes good money there.

894
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: It's on ESPN for now. She gets the one million

895
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: dollar prize at the end if she can win the

896
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: season a tournament, which she hasn't even been touched to

897
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: this point. But Luke, she's a different breathe though. She's

898
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: got a great manager and Ali Abdelaziz, who's gonna make

899
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: sure she gets paid what she potentially, you know, deserves,

900
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: And I think she's talking to her enough seeing her interviews.

901
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: She wants to be great. She knows how great she

902
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: can be. She can only be so great in the PFL. Look,

903
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: she can only be so great in Bellator anywhere else,

904
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: although Bellator would offer her, you know, in the short term,

905
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: you could really make that cyborg fight something special that

906
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: people have to see. So Luke I had said when

907
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: we originally talked about her free agency during the PFL

908
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: regular season, is there some type a hybrid if PFL

909
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: still pay her a lot and reach out to Bellatore

910
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: and say, hey, let's do a home and home series.

911
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: You know, Kayla and Cyborg. You know we'll fight under

912
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: both banners. I don't. I'm not sure. I don't even

913
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: know if that's possible anymore, Luke, although we just did

914
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: that with what Horagucci and called well for Bellatoor and Risen.

915
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: All I know here is I am very interested to

916
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: see where she goes. Luke, do you have a feeling

917
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: either way, because I don't. I don't know what the

918
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: what the numbers are going to bring in the end.

919
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: You know, if somebody brings a lot of money to

920
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: the table, that's gonna sway it. We know it's a

921
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: business that's gonna sway things. Who's gonna bring the biggest offer?

922
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I I the Bellator one. About what extent their interest

923
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: might be, I don't know. I don't know about that one.

924
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean I certainly think you should take that seriously.

925
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: I think if they wanted her, they could make a

926
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: real push to sign her. I think, as you mentioned

927
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: Ali's fighters, more and more, you're seeing a lot of

928
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: them in Beltoy. That wasn't always the case, so you're

929
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: seeing more of that. That's a good sign potentially for Kayla.

930
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: I think Scott Coker could make effective use out of her.

931
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say about Kayla Harrison is,

932
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't pretend to know her all that well.

933
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: I've interviewed her several times, I've had her in studio,

934
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of conversations with her off the record,

935
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: but nothing too serious. But even with that, I just

936
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: she wants to be the best fighter in the world,

937
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: like and and you know, she was the best judoka.

938
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: She's she is literally the best judoka in American history,

939
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: male or female, not even close in that one. And

940
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: now she is clearly the best female fighter ever in

941
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: pfl OUT, which, for whatever that is worth. And she's

942
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: also made a substantial amount of money. I think she

943
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: believes that over time, with better opponents in brighter spotlights,

944
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: she could probably make even more money. But also I

945
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: think she wants to be looked at as I am

946
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: the alpha. Here, I am the one who is in charge.

947
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: Look at me, I'm the captain. Now she wants that.

948
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't think she knows she can't really get that

949
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: in pfl UFC is probably going to be the best

950
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: place world or although you're right you could hear bellator

951
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: than cyborg fights would be huge.

952
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Here's why she's not gonna go to UFC. I figured

953
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: it out. First of all, they don't have her division,

954
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: although she's proven in the past in one fight that

955
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: she can make one forty five, and she's you know,

956
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: I've interviewed her, I've asked her about it. She said,

957
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 2: it's hell, but I can make it for the right fight.

958
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: For her to want to compete regularly at one to

959
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: try to build toward an Amanda Newness fight for the

960
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: women's featherweight belt under the UFC flag, She's gonna want

961
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: to be paid a lot to put in that sacrifice,

962
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: and I don't think they're gonna be willing to pay

963
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: her that. I think they're gonna say, look, you come

964
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: in under a humble rate if you can beat them,

965
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: and God, we'll give you anything you want. All right,

966
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: you want to go in my office and get that

967
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: gun that has all the drugs and whatever you want,

968
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: you know, but not until you do that. You know

969
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: how UFC works, Luke. They're not gonna pay overpay up

970
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: front to find out if she's the goods. Because of that,

971
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: because they don't even have her division, and because they

972
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: barely have a one hundred and forty five pound division

973
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: to begin with. She ain't going there, Luke, not happened.

974
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: It's a decent point as well. I tend to think

975
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what with the UFC ends up

976
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: doing with her. I tend to think that's the likeliest

977
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: landing place if if if UFC is out, what is

978
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: more likely PFL or Bellator?

979
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: Uh whoever gives more money?

980
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Simple as that, well, then that would probably be be

981
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: PFL because she would just have to win the seasons

982
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, mop up the floor with somebody

983
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: on the the files and get the million dollar check.

984
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: We don't have any inside info, Hair Luke. We do

985
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: know that Belatour is owned by our parent company. This

986
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: would be the time, if I'm Bellator and ViacomCBS to

987
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: get a little creative and revisit the days of Strikeforce

988
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: and FAD or in a leit XC going on big CBS.

989
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: If there's some type of connection there where, like, look,

990
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: if we can sign this once in a generation athlete potentially,

991
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: which is what she's showing potential to be, that's a

992
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: person you can put on primetime in people's living rooms, right,

993
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, people are gonna follow the

994
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Kayla journey, the single mom adopting the you know, the

995
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: children of her sibling to like. I mean, there's a

996
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: story there of Olympic dominance, of professional dominance, of personal

997
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: life dominance, and she's been through a lot to get

998
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: here in her own personal life. I'm wondering if that's

999
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: the hook. But you know, we don't have no inside info.

1000
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: I have no idea what people are being willing to

1001
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: be paid. But that's probably that's an unknown just as

1002
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: where's PFL going to be on TV next year? That's

1003
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: also an unknown loop.

1004
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got to say I find it hard

1005
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: to believe that the UFC is going to be like, oh,

1006
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: we have the best person from the United States who's

1007
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: ever been good at judo, two gold medals, undefeated pro

1008
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: MMA fighter, who can make one forty five and look

1009
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: brutal doing it. We're just going to pass on that.

1010
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: UFC doesn't need her. They don't they don't need hardly

1011
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: any single one fighter in that sense. But the idea

1012
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: that they would just look the other way on this

1013
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: and let other promoters have at this stage of her

1014
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: developed career, I find a little bit hard to believe,

1015
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll have to see. No one really

1016
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: knows until we get there. Now, the other piece there

1017
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: is about Nate Diz. This one, to me is a

1018
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: little bit more interesting BBC. Here's the quote from Dana

1019
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: White quote that's a decision he needs to make, referencing

1020
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz. Listen for a lot of these guys, there's

1021
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: no secret about it. If you believe that you are

1022
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: one of the best in the world, and you believe

1023
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: you can win a world title here or hang with

1024
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: the top five, then this is where you should be.

1025
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: The minute that you start doubting that is the case,

1026
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: you've got to start looking at other options. As far

1027
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: as Nate Diaz goes. He says, I don't know where

1028
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: Nate feels he is right now and what he feels

1029
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: his future could be if he signs with another four

1030
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: or five fight deal. Here, what do you make of this? PC?

1031
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: I mean this even this isn't even the juiciest comments

1032
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: where Dana basically said, I'm not sure I believe Nate

1033
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: can be the top five fighter, right, he.

1034
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: Sort of referenced he makes allusions to it here. Yes,

1035
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: Mikey pulled a bad quote I'm gonna blame Mikey. Yes.

1036
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: Well, look, you know Nate, Nate's Nate, right, you know,

1037
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: on the right night, he can do it against anybody.

1038
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: And he also, by the way, almost just stopped Leon Edwards,

1039
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: So I guess that throws that out. Yeah, this is

1040
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: probably Dana saying, uh, hey, by the way, Nate, you

1041
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 2: want to go do that because Nate's got an interesting

1042
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: point of leverage here. He's got a short window to

1043
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: make big fights outside the UFC if you wanted to.

1044
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: We've talked about it. You know, could he do a

1045
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: crossover boxing fight? Could he do a Connor McGregor trilogy

1046
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: after his You know that's a pipe dream, right, But uh,

1047
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is again just Dana going, You're

1048
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: not as worth much as much as you think you are,

1049
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: So maybe you should think twice before trying to take

1050
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: your brand elsewhere, because the reality is, Luke, if they

1051
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: give him the Connor trilogy under the UFC banner and

1052
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: really promote it like it's the all time great grudge match,

1053
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of money and you know, and to

1054
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: be made there for Nate, A lot a lot of

1055
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: good good tidings in situations for him. So I think

1056
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: it's it's Dana just just being Dana. It's I don't know,

1057
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we get on Dana Luke pretty damn shrewd businessman.

1058
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: Though all right, I'm not afraid to do it publicly.

1059
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to shit on his own product to uh.

1060
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know this, this is uh what do

1061
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: you think?

1062
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: I say? I actually feel like the chances of him leaving.

1063
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, on the one hand, you just sort of

1064
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: resort back to what you feel like would be the

1065
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: most common reason why he wouldn't go anywhere, which would be, hey, like,

1066
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: to your point, they could make all kinds of not

1067
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: all kinds, but there's probably three or four big, big

1068
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: ish two or three big fights they could make, and

1069
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: a lot of other ones that they could make work,

1070
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: And so why would he ever go anywhere else? This

1071
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: is you know, it's been a complicated relationship, but it

1072
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: keeps going back to what it is for those reasons.

1073
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: On the other hand, what he says there is kind

1074
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: of interesting, not that I fully believe that, like that

1075
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: whole thing about oh, if you can't imagine yourself in

1076
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: the top five, then this should be the place for you.

1077
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of people who never even

1078
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: sniff that, who know they are not going to sniff that,

1079
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: who still want to compete. I don't know if Nate

1080
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: thinks he can beat most of those guys. I mean,

1081
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: maybe he does. But the point being is this what

1082
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: has been the rule about when UFC parts ways with people,

1083
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: it's when they feel like they've already gotten the best

1084
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: out of them, not all out of them, but the

1085
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: best they've gotten the majority of the great knights they're

1086
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: going to have. They might still have a couple of

1087
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: great knights when they move on, but that's going to

1088
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: be short lived and whatnot. Listen, you have to make

1089
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: a reality call here about Nate Diaz. How many fighters

1090
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: in the top five of either division would you pick

1091
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: him to beat? So when I say either division, I

1092
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: mean one fifty five or one seventy, I'm not saying

1093
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: he couldn't beat those, but gun to my head, I'm

1094
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: not picking him many times, if at all, quite frankly,

1095
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career. Again, LeAnn Edwards and

1096
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor and who knows who knows. I mean, again,

1097
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: it could be kind of complicated, but I don't know

1098
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: that he rests in the top five of either of

1099
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: those divisions. Definitely not a one to seventy and probably

1100
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: not one fifty five at this point either. So you

1101
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: have a couple of big fights you can make, and

1102
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: then what are you supposed to do? It's not really

1103
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: so clear. Moreover, if you're Nate Diaz and you can

1104
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: get a Jake Paul boxing match or something else, dude,

1105
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a fuck ton of money doing that.

1106
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: So I actually feel like the UFC the right answer

1107
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: is probably he will end up their BC. That's just

1108
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: how these things tend to go. But I have to

1109
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: say I actually feel like the chances of him leaving

1110
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: are a little bit a little bit higher than folks

1111
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: are understanding, for reasons that both entities might have separate

1112
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: for one another.

1113
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's say Nate left the UFC to, you know,

1114
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: find out what his free agent value is worth. And

1115
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: let's say that that weird pipe dream of Conor McGregor

1116
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: running out his contract and leaving UFC and do it.

1117
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: That's not happening. Okay, what are the three biggest fights

1118
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: outside the UFC you think Nate could be a part

1119
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: of that? He would want to be a part of

1120
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: that would draw money and be interesting.

1121
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: To watch either of the Paul brothers in boxing. Honestly,

1122
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: I think it'd be kind of funny. You could make

1123
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: it work. There's a potential Dylan Dannis play.

1124
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna say that him against Dylan

1125
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Dannis under the bellatour banner would be would be a

1126
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: fun way to use Nate, just like what do you

1127
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: think about MVP against Nate?

1128
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: I think that could work, and also do if your

1129
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: bell tour. Let's be real, like you need someone from

1130
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: a ratings perspective who can move the needle famously, Dude,

1131
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz can move the needle, and Nate Diaz I

1132
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: think could find I think Cocher could find ways to

1133
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: match make for Nate Diaz where it fits along his

1134
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: interest in terms of the kind of fights he's looking

1135
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: for and that are winnable. Now how popular those names are,

1136
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: it's a little bit complicated, but dude, there there are

1137
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: some ways to make that work. Again, I tend to

1138
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: think he ends up back in the UFC, and that's

1139
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: just what it's gonna be. But I wouldn't say it's automatic.

1140
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I will tell you.

1141
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: This are our producers jumping in Gaff jumping in sane

1142
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: Benson hendo.

1143
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who would want to see that fight?

1144
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: No?

1145
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: Stop? I mean is that two legends going in the belt.

1146
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm into that.

1147
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: I already fought and it fucking sucked.

1148
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: Stop that. Stop that. Oh you're right, they did fight

1149
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: and it sucked. You're all right, I'll take that back

1150
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: in the moment. I'll dead wrong myself, Luke, Like it's

1151
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: a Friday here, tell me if I'm wrong. Nate Diaz

1152
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: versus aj McKee, and I think I've said this before,

1153
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 2: could be Nick Diaz versus Frank Shamrock all for again

1154
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: for Scot Coverer.

1155
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you could do something kind of like that. Yeah,

1156
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: there's there's no you have, dude.

1157
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: And you could put it on Big CBS.

1158
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: Diaz better than UFC ever did?

1159
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: You could put it on Big CBS or pay per view. Hey,

1160
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: imagine a world in which six months from now we're

1161
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: talking about what's Belatar gonna do with Kayla Harrison and

1162
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: Nate Dz. I don't think they're both going there. I

1163
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: don't know, Luke, but that'd be a wild world, right.

1164
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, Gun to your head, does he stay

1165
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: in UFC or does he does he march?

1166
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: All right? Gun to my head, Kayla stays with PFL

1167
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: and Nate stays with the UFC because they they guarantee

1168
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: him the Connor trilogy soon. And I think that's gonna

1169
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: be a part of the negotiation, right probably because that

1170
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: might be that might end up being the perfect Connor

1171
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: comeback fight. It really might.

1172
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know what Connor is going to be

1173
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: doing at some point, you know, that's another thing. But

1174
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: you would say this, dude, I mean, I don't know

1175
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: how you could even argue with this. If Bellator ends

1176
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: up signing Nate Daz, which seems unlikely but possible, let's

1177
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: say they did. That's their biggest free agent acquisition ever.

1178
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: Right, Let's let's talk quickly one of the biggest free

1179
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: agent acquisitions in Belatar history. Cyborg.

1180
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cyborg is a big one. Phil Davis at the

1181
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: time was a big one. Was a big one because

1182
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: it was a big one. Hendo was a big one. Henderson.

1183
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think here.

1184
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, star Value, this would be the biggest one.

1185
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Rubel Johnson's a big one.

1186
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: You know, they're saying Gay Guard. Geff is reminding us

1187
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: of Gay Guard. But you know, you're talking about brand

1188
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: getting people to go there. Besides, seriously, besides, besides signing Kimbo,

1189
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: this is probably the biggest one.

1190
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's a good point. Uh oh, let's go

1191
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: to our next topic. If we can hear, BC, I

1192
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: actually feel like I don't know what people were saying

1193
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: about this online. I only saw what you sent me,

1194
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: and I just read the article and did some thinking

1195
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: about it. I actually like this move. I think it's

1196
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: a smart move personally. Mike Perry has finished his time

1197
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: with the UFC, his contract expired, and he has signed

1198
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: with Dot dot dot be Yes, Bare Knuckle Fighting Championships.

1199
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: Very easy question, BC, Was this a smart move for

1200
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Mike Perry?

1201
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: I never thought I'd say, is this a smart move

1202
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: for a fighter still kind of in their physical prime?

1203
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: And Mike's only thirty, so let's give him that is

1204
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: a smart move to go to Bare knuckle. Yeah. I've

1205
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: never seen a more perfect marriage, Luke Grilly, I mean, normally,

1206
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: with the exception of Page van Zane, who went there

1207
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: for you know, the financial opportunity, and by the way,

1208
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: she said that she'll be fighting out her contract in

1209
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and I bet you will see her

1210
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: in Belatore next year, which by the way, could also

1211
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: be a big pickup ratings wise for Bellatore. This is

1212
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: I've never seen a promotion fighter more perfect for each

1213
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: other at this time. And you know, Mike's recent UFC

1214
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: ron has been bad. He's lost four or five, He's

1215
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: had some really weird nights at the office where he

1216
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: just got straight up dominated, or he had his pregnant

1217
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: girlfriend as his trainer. So he fits this, this Barnyard

1218
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: circuit almost perfectly. In fact, Luke, I've out and said, hey,

1219
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: let's get him on this show. Let's I haven't talked

1220
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: to him since he hung up on me and told

1221
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: me to fuck off and that he'd killed me in person, Luke,

1222
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: because I because I asked him that question about his

1223
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: ex wife. I'm all, I got nothing but love for

1224
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: Mike Perry and his growing family and everything. So he's

1225
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: a He's not a star meaning this will shift the

1226
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: potential of where BKFC could be as a brand and

1227
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: all that. No, but he fits that who they are

1228
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: and what they're trying to be so perfectly that I

1229
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: kind of I kind of you know, I'm already starting

1230
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: a match making my head. I mean, we just saw

1231
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: Dave Caveman, Dave Rickles of belat or fe beat up

1232
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: on the Uh Julian Lane of let Me Bang FA

1233
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: last week Give Me Caveman, Mike Perry. I'm kind of

1234
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: down for that.

1235
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: Luke speaking of him sending you to hell. We actually

1236
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: have the audio of that. Let's hear it all right,

1237
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: is the best thing for what you?

1238
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: Parting ways with the Platinum?

1239
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: It sounds like you agree with that, Bro.

1240
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't know your life. I'm the guy that asked

1241
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 2: you the question.

1242
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: Well, then why are you asking questions about my life?

1243
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: Talking about this person said this? This person said that,

1244
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: I don't fucking know nobody. Nobody knows me. That's for

1245
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 4: damn sure. I don't know why people talking to me

1246
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: about other people saying things about my life. What kind

1247
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: of question is that? Get your own life? You don't

1248
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: want to talk to me about mine? Why do you

1249
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: give a fuck because you're a journalist. You don't get

1250
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: paid for this ship? What are you doing with your life?

1251
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: Fuck you, bro? Goodbye? CBS.

1252
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean he was polite at the end.

1253
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: You knows a little shout out of little little deuces there,

1254
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: but uh, yeah, don't ask.

1255
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: What did you ask him that he elicited that response.

1256
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: So he had he had, you know, divorced the Platinum Princess,

1257
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: and uh two members of his former team in New Mexico.

1258
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: It was Frank Lester and uh, I forgot the other

1259
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: one was maybe Diego. Sanchez came out publicly and said, Mike,

1260
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: divorcing the Platinum Princess is the best thing that could

1261
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: happen to his career because there was so distraction heavy

1262
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: before that. So look, was it a was it at

1263
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: a question that had volatile potential? Of course it was Luke,

1264
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: But you know, I asked the hard questions on this shit, Luke,

1265
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 2: and I said, look, this is what your ex team

1266
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: is saying. Do you feel like, you know, career wise,

1267
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna be going in the right direction now? And

1268
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Speaker 2: He's like, wait, who the wait?

1269
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: What? What?

1270
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: Why are you talking about my wife? Why don't you

1271
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: go get one? I got one? Oh she's great. I

1272
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: love her.

1273
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: Say, first of all, it's hilarious to hear that, but

1274
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: more to the point, I actually feel like this is

1275
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: a great signing for Mike. Mike is uh. First of all,

1276
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: he's just sort of built for this kind of thing.

1277
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: These fights are two minute rounds. You start close, it's

1278
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: nothing but punching. You know, it's intense, it's quick. Those

1279
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: are the kinds of fights where I feel like Mike

1280
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: Perry shines. He has big power, he does have some

1281
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: skill obviously, has skill on the ground, and he beat

1282
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: Mickey gall that way. Like he can you know, I

1283
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: think he's a purple belt or something like. He can

1284
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: make it work on the ground obviously if he ever

1285
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: wants to go back to MMA. But this simplifies to

1286
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: a degree. It doesn't make it easier, but it simplifies

1287
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: the training. A lot of the shows take place in Florida,

1288
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: where he's from. He has just the right look, he

1289
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: has just the right style. He's got a certain edge

1290
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: that I think the brand would probably like, assuming he can,

1291
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, stop getting into trouble or saying insane things

1292
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: that the brand probably likes. Some of the edginess, the

1293
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: more palatable versions of it that he offers. Yeah, I

1294
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: actually feel like this is totally the right call. And

1295
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, do they don't get a lot of

1296
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: guys at thirty. They get a lot of guys at

1297
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven. Here you got a

1298
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: guy smack dab in the middle of his physical prime

1299
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: who has a style of fighting and striking perfectly attuned

1300
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: to these demands. Yeah, everything about this signing makes total sense.

1301
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of curious. The one thing I would

1302
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: say is BC it used to be the case where

1303
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: if someone left UFC, we'd be like, oh, they're gonna

1304
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: end up in Belator, Dude, they often go to PFL.

1305
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: Now they often go to BKFC. Is this how do

1306
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: you view the role that they play in the marketplace.

1307
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: It sort of says like Belter's got some power, they've

1308
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: got a big roster. Obviously they're on showtime, like they've

1309
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of things going for it. But there

1310
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: are just a lot of situations you can see where

1311
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: people want that million dollar tournament prize, where they want

1312
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: the simplified training environment of a bare knuckle. These are

1313
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: legitimate alternatives.

1314
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: They are and you know, obviously I reference the PVC

1315
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: signing that was like the first like oh wow that

1316
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, that's a big one of somebody who's got

1317
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: star power. And now you've got a guy who's, like

1318
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: you mentioned, kind of prime. Still though that that losing

1319
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: streak you can't avoid in the UFC. And oh, by

1320
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: the way, so they don't get dead wrong. Mike's from Michigan,

1321
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: but he resides in South Florida and has for a while,

1322
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: so that's what you know.

1323
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: What I mean is he's got a kid. He's got

1324
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: a kid, and yeah, Ocean, he doesn't have to travel

1325
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: far if the shows are in Florida.

1326
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to see Ocean with one of those BKFC

1327
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: bibs on. Actually, Luke, I wonder if do you think, well, oh,

1328
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: this is the perfect brand at the perfect time. Hopefully

1329
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: Monk's getting paid and hopefully you can have some success

1330
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: in there. Do you think if he has legitimate success,

1331
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: if he puts some wins together, this could be the

1332
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: launching pad to get him back as a not hot

1333
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: but a somewhat desirable MMA free agent. And I asked

1334
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: that because of this look his recent last two years,

1335
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: it's been a shit it's been a shit storm for him.

1336
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 2: Before that though, he's a Remember he's a cold main

1337
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: event that time, and he was like the story heading

1338
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: into that fight night. He's a marketable guy. Say what

1339
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: you will about him. He's fun to watch.

1340
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I certainly think that he could. There's a

1341
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: potential way he could do it. Let me pop quiz

1342
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: you here real quickly. Who is the current ones? I

1343
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: think they do the one seventy five weight class. Who

1344
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: is their current one seventy five weight class champ? Do

1345
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: you know? No, it's Thiago Alvez. Thiago Alvez is that guy, which,

1346
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: by the way, Alves versus Perry is a great fight

1347
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: and more to the point, if that you're illustrating my point.

1348
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: Thago Alvias is a great name, but he's certainly longer

1349
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: in the tooth. Obviously he's much older now. And I

1350
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: think what BKFC is looking for is we need champions

1351
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: that folks recognize as our champion, like they know these

1352
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: names and they know, oh yeah, Mike Perry doesn't just

1353
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: fight in BKFC, but he's their weight class champion, like

1354
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: he's the welterweight. They are currently lacking a little bit

1355
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: of that extra marketing push, and I wonder if Mike

1356
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Perry gives it to him. I think he might. But

1357
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, we should also note people go over to

1358
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: BKFC think it's going to be a walk in the park,

1359
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: and they find out it's actually a lot more difficult

1360
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: than they ever imagine. So I don't want to say

1361
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: he's got you know, automatic success ready for him, but

1362
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: I do think he is well situated for those kinds

1363
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: of demands.

1364
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, well said real quickly.

1365
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: Last topic topic number five. Last night was Dana White's

1366
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Tuesdaynight Contender series, which was pretty good. A lot of

1367
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Chinese prospects on the card, which is kind of interesting.

1368
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: Most of them did not pan out this time, which

1369
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: you can tell what the future is headed. There was

1370
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: something else that kind of happened that was a little

1371
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: bit interesting. There was a fight between a guy natively

1372
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: from Afghanistan and then in Israeli, and during the ways,

1373
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: the gentleman from Israel called his opponent a terrorist because

1374
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: he refused a handshake with him. Well, why did he

1375
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: refuse a handshake? I don't think it was in any

1376
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: kind of political reason. I think he just decided that

1377
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: he didn't want to shake his hand because the Israeli

1378
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 1: gentleman had missed weight by up to three pounds, which

1379
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: is pretty bad, especially fur on the A Tender series

1380
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: where you're like, you're trying to impress the bosses about

1381
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: your professionalism and whatnot. Okay, So in the end, if

1382
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: you watch that, the Afghan fighters name is Basharat. He

1383
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: beat his Israeli opponent like a fucking drum. I mean

1384
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: it was ten eight first round, no doubt about it.

1385
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: Pasteload a little bit in the second, but he was dominant.

1386
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: In the third round. He just polished him off like

1387
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: it was nothing, finishing him with a mounted guillotine choke.

1388
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean it was a shellacking. And so he was

1389
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: asked by John Morgan, what did you make of him

1390
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: saying that like the opponent calling the other one and

1391
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: a terrorist. After the fact, Dana White had to say this.

1392
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: When you found out about you know, the face off yesterday,

1393
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: the terrorist comment, yep, I don't know if if you

1394
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: thought about doing anything, you know what I mean. It

1395
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: was just you know, I know you say all the time,

1396
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 3: is hey, it's to fight business people say mean things,

1397
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 3: but you know that one seemed to maybe a little poor.

1398
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: You know what my answer is to that? Are we

1399
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 5: gonna do anything? It got done tonight, you know what

1400
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: I mean. It's the beautiful thing about this sport. I

1401
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 5: say it all the time. This is not a lie.

1402
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 5: It is a very rough sport. We say a lot

1403
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 5: of mean things to each other, a lot of you know,

1404
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 5: uh and and and justice gets served at the end

1405
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 5: of the day. I mean, listen, when when you have

1406
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: a situation like that, the best way to solve the

1407
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 5: problem is you fight, and you fight legally and uh

1408
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 5: you get paid to do it. And that's what happened tonight.

1409
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: Do you ever feel that there is a line though,

1410
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: that you gotta worry about, like, hey, maybe that was

1411
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: a little too far.

1412
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 5: No, not, not in this business. I don't there's bet

1413
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 5: if you if you look, you're going to add that

1414
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 5: to the pile of some pretty nasty things that have

1415
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 5: been said in this in this sport, and not just

1416
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 5: this sport boxing, I'm sure, muay Thai kickboxing, you know,

1417
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 5: you name it. Mean things are said and this insanely

1418
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: politically correct world we're living and this is one place

1419
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 5: that is.

1420
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: Not I don't even know what that is supposed to mean,

1421
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: BC or.

1422
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: People street justice got him in the end, Luke, that's

1423
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: what we do here in the UK.

1424
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: ABC. I mean, there's so many things. Let me react

1425
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: to it. Please please go ahead.

1426
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to come off you know, soy

1427
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: boy here and and so I won't like there are

1428
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 2: there are there are elements of what Dina said that

1429
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 2: I do agree with, because you know, boxing the combat

1430
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: counter brother here of a sport. You know, there's a

1431
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 2: lot of bullshit in that too, a lot of stuff

1432
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: that gets said. And I do agree with Dana to

1433
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 2: this idea that I don't want. I certainly don't want

1434
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 2: the PC control that's come over our regular lifestyle. Obviously

1435
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: in some great ways, right because it's objectively removing things

1436
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: like misogyny and racism, so it's actually great, but I

1437
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: don't want it to overly there's a bad side to

1438
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: too much PC. I don't want it to overly come

1439
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: into the fight game. I want you to be able

1440
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: to disrespect your opponent. That's part of the game, and

1441
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: in theory I agree with Dana on that. But he's

1442
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: way off in just being like, well, it got handled, right,

1443
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: I mean, what if it got handled in the other way?

1444
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: What if the guy who called him the terrorists got

1445
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: the knockout and stood over him and did no what

1446
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: Dana says, is there a line that things haven't gone

1447
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 2: too far. What he really means is things haven't gone

1448
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: too far yet, because like I hate being the guy

1449
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: who has to keep reminding everyone that like this isn't

1450
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: outlaw UFC two thousand and six or even two thousand

1451
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: and eight or nine, Like this is twenty twenty one,

1452
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: corporate publicly sold UFC. So you know, it's a different

1453
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: time in space and air. And while I do think,

1454
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: like you know, even if somebody calls the other the

1455
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: other guy's wife ugly, I don't want to police stuff

1456
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: like that, but when you are doing things, and the

1457
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: only other time Luke I remember getting this amped up

1458
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: and serious about it was some of the rhetoric between

1459
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: Habib and Connor. When you're going to levels where you're insulting,

1460
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: you know, cultures, religions, and you're inciting situations where there

1461
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: could be payback in public payback, like UFC two twenty nine,

1462
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: when thank god, everybody including the police in the arena

1463
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: did get things contained to control, but that had potential.

1464
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: I still don't think people realize this to be a

1465
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: palace brawl all over again. That's spilled into the crowd

1466
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: that got people from both sides, meaning the Connor supporters

1467
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: and the Russian Habib supporters just going at it. Why

1468
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: because stuff lines were crossed. Hit was said, there are

1469
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: many lines that you shouldn't cross, and that if they

1470
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: do get crossed in the UFC at a high level,

1471
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: Dana will have to step in, Luke. If you're gonna

1472
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: have two guys, you know, call each other homophobic slurs

1473
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: and the two guys are stars and it's front page news,

1474
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dana White and company are gonna have to

1475
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: step in and should want to. So for him to

1476
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: just be like, well, you know, it's sorted itself out,

1477
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: not anymore, dude, it's twenty twenty one. Like, it can't

1478
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: be that flippant because the first time that something happens

1479
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: that's gonna potentially hurt your sponsorships or your brand, it's

1480
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: gonna rightfully get dealt with. So let's have a let's

1481
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: have a larger strike zone compared to the NFL or whatever,

1482
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: because it is the fight game. But let's also wake

1483
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: up and realize that, you know, there's some shit you

1484
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: just don't want being set under your brand's housing, you

1485
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just it's it. We should

1486
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: be past that as a society and I hope even

1487
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: in the fight game there's sort of some unwritten rules

1488
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: of some things you don't say. I mean, well, look,

1489
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: what if we came out racially good God that they

1490
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't last. You know that Dana White would take care

1491
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: of it right away. If this was an extreme racial

1492
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: or you know, homophobic or anti medic comment, right, I mean.

1493
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: Let's flip let's flip the script here a little bit.

1494
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 1: Certainly I would never endorse this, It would be absolutely

1495
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: morally in every way repugnant. But we had an Israeli opponent.

1496
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: Let's flip the script here a little bit. What if

1497
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: the Afghan guy did nothing wrong here, or just any

1498
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 1: other opponent, What if someone came out into his face

1499
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: audibly or maybe even in interviews, you know, said Nazi

1500
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: slogans and gave a Nazi salute to his face. The

1501
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: UFC is going to be okay with this. Really, you're

1502
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: gonna be okay with a Jewish opponent being taunted with

1503
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: Nazi salutes, maybe even Nazi imagery and Nazi statements. Your

1504
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: brand wants to be associated with that. This is not

1505
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: about political correctness. It's not a question of do we

1506
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: have to find a nicer way to talk to each other.

1507
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: It's a question of it, and I keep going back

1508
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: to it. And this is true not just for UFC.

1509
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 1: It's true for Belator, it's true for PBC and boxing.

1510
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: It's true for top rank, It's true for everybody. The

1511
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: question is who you want to be in business with?

1512
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: And I agree with you to a large extent bec

1513
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: which is, dude, this is the fight game, and so

1514
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: boxing or combat sports. If you can't fight in a

1515
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: cave your ring in this country, you know, I don't

1516
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: know what you can do. I'm not calling for anyone's license.

1517
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: I didn't even call for this guy to get released.

1518
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: But I don't think that folks have woken up to

1519
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: the fact. Number one, it's not a question that we

1520
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: want a police speech. It's like, dude, do you want

1521
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: to be in business with this person? He got lucky,

1522
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: the whole UFC got lucky that this didn't bubble up

1523
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: to a greater scandal, because I can imagine that Disney

1524
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: and other third party validators like DraftKings or whoever, if

1525
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: they had gotten wind of this and it had become

1526
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: a bigger story, this whole thing would have changed instantly.

1527
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: And this idea that like there's no line really, So

1528
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: like you can have a fighter go around and call

1529
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: all the members of your black African American staff. He

1530
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: can call him each one by one the N word.

1531
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: He can call his opponent the N word, like to

1532
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: his face, audibly in interviews, and there's no we want

1533
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: to be in business with this person. This is an

1534
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: obviously deranged worldview. Who on earth would ever say that's

1535
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: a ethical way to look at life. There's no line

1536
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: you can cross by taunting and saying these kinds of things.

1537
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: So there's the first part is that I don't need

1538
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: to understand that part, but I just need folks to

1539
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: understand something here. You got to wrap your head around

1540
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: that there's a current political movement that likes to present

1541
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: itself as being especially strong, especially brave, the ones who've

1542
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: clearly got the common sense figured out right, we don't

1543
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: bow to these woke mobs. We don't bow to these

1544
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: pressures to talk nicely when we don't have to. And again,

1545
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: to some extent, resisting those pressures is not that it

1546
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: is actually a good thing in certain ways. But you've

1547
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: got to understand this is not a principal take about

1548
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: we're committed to free speech. We're committed to this. We're

1549
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: committed to that. The UFC and in particular Dana White,

1550
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: they are incredibly sensitive about journalists critiquing them. They don't

1551
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: like that speech at all. Fighters going out and sharing

1552
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: details about how they've been treated by matchmakers or their

1553
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: pay situations, boy, they don't like that at all. This

1554
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: idea that they're committed to free speech is very conditional.

1555
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: It's not absolute. And more to the point, I'm going

1556
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: to go over this one more time, the UFC still

1557
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: has on the books a code of conduct. They used

1558
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: to find Nate Diz for homophobic slurs and other fighters,

1559
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: and they got rid of that when it became when

1560
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: they realized that this is going to blur the lines

1561
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: between independent contractor and employee, and they let off the gas.

1562
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: All of this is not a principled stance about really

1563
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: sticking it to the woke mobs. This is about the

1564
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: bottom line. No one really and the no one really

1565
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: called them out on keeping this guy on the roster.

1566
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: He got his ass whip, but no one really called

1567
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: him out in the roster about keeping them there. There

1568
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: was no price to pay, so they just went forward

1569
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: with it. If that had changed, they would have cut

1570
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: his ass and given us some statement about how they're

1571
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: committed to you know, diversity and blah blah blah, and

1572
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: we would have called him and said that was, you know,

1573
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: disingenuous too. Whatever. All I'm trying to point out is

1574
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: do not be fooled into thinking this is a principled

1575
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: stance that they want to take about what is the

1576
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: right way to navigate through the world as it relates

1577
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: to policing speech and policing different forms of uh sort

1578
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: of communication or identity. This is about someone else has

1579
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: to deal with their malfeasance and their problems. It ain't

1580
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: gonna be us because what we're focused in on is

1581
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: the bottom line. And when it is convenient for us,

1582
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: we will do X, and when it is not convenient

1583
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 1: for us, we will do why, which is how most

1584
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: businesses operate. By the way, the USC is hardly exclusive

1585
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: in this. I just want people to absorb this is

1586
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: not holding the line against woke mobs. This is holding

1587
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: the line on the dollar sign. It is no more

1588
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: and it is no less.

1589
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: Well said Luke. Well said, and I think it's it's

1590
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: continually dangerous, and I got a lot of hate on

1591
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: Internet whenever I bring this up. But you know when

1592
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: Connor attacked that bus and got zero zero slap on

1593
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: the wrist from his own employer for like I mean,

1594
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: he costs people fights. He put people in you know,

1595
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 2: put rows and people like in serious danger and he

1596
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: was rewarded with the biggest fight in history and Dana going, well,

1597
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: you should see how the legal fees he has he got.

1598
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 2: You know, he paid his dues. It's like when you

1599
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: when you act as a default like that, you're welcoming

1600
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 2: in down the line some really bad behavior that you'll

1601
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: have to, you know, retroactively try to clean up. And

1602
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: it's it's not a good look. And people say, well,

1603
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: what about boxing BC? What about this star? What about

1604
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: these guys on showtime that box and do that? Well,

1605
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: you know, UFC has an organizational level and a control

1606
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: in a league that nobody else in combat sports really has,

1607
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, in a platform and everything

1608
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: where when you get that high up, when you become

1609
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: publicly traded, when you are on ESPN and have to

1610
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: answer to Disney like Dana did with the with the

1611
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: Taichi Palace situation when there was no commission, you know,

1612
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm sorry. Like different you get to a

1613
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: higher level, there's different responsibility levels at the same time.

1614
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: So Dana could have snuffed this out just by saying, look,

1615
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: we don't endorse those specific comments. We'll talk to him.

1616
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: It's all you had to say. It's all you had

1617
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:52,919
Speaker 2: to say, dude.

1618
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like yeah. And by the way, and there's

1619
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: no limit to what you can say. Really, I mean, listen,

1620
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: Jervonte Davis has got a ton of issues, and he's

1621
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: going to be judged by a jury of his peers

1622
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: coming up I think in twenty twenty two. I'm not

1623
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: sure exactly what the court date is. Listen, he's got

1624
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: a lot to answer for too. Everyone in doing business

1625
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: with him has a lot to answer for. No, and

1626
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I also understand just as well as

1627
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: you do BC, if you want it to be that

1628
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: woke mob, that puritanical mob, you're not going to be

1629
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: in combat sports business very long. You have to on

1630
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: some level understand you're dealing with a population that's going

1631
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: to have a difficulty, do you know, uh, living normal lives.

1632
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it. I understand that,

1633
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: but but to be so open as to say where

1634
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: this is not we're we're not politically correct. We would

1635
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: never do something like this. It's like, dude, I bet

1636
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: if they flip the script and you had somebody in

1637
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: a neo Nazi gang saying neo Nazi things and he

1638
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: could fight his ass off, you're really gonna say you

1639
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: want to be in business with him? Stop lying. That's

1640
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: obviously not true.

1641
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: So we gotta get We got we got time stamps here,

1642
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: We got to keep going, Luke. But all right, all right, hey,

1643
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: I got a great segment for you by popular demand.

1644
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: You're ready for it, Let's do it. Will of Death

1645
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: boom boom.

1646
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 2: Every Wednesday, I make Luke Thomas sit down and ask

1647
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: questions that he really didn't want to. So it's good

1648
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: faith responses from decently faith terms. It's called the Wheel

1649
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 2: of Death.

1650
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: Bumping a bump, bump, bump, bump.

1651
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: No celebrities this week, Luke, no bullshit. It's what the

1652
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: people want. They're getting it. Okay, Scott Levy, the Great Raven,

1653
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: you're getting this right now, here we go. Here are

1654
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: your ten categories for this week's Wheel of Death. Regular

1655
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: booty pins and needles, strip club food menus too hot

1656
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 2: to handle Booty. Luke Thomas is still pissed, peeing on ants.

1657
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: Thick podcast hosts five Alarm Fire Booty, absentee Fathers, and

1658
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 2: killed by kindness. Luke, five spins. There's ten categories. You

1659
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: get what you get?

1660
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. We gotta move this along. Sorry,

1661
01:16:52,800 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: what too long? Pins and needles?

1662
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: Heay, pins and needles, Luke, Let's face it. Good old

1663
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 2: doctor James Nasmith would probably be shocked to see what

1664
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: his peach basket game has evolved to, with things like

1665
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: the shot clock and three point shots and dunks and

1666
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: all that stuff. So, Luke, given that MMA is less

1667
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: than thirty years old, I often wonder what foundational parts

1668
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: of today's game will we think are just obsolete twenty

1669
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: years from now. So what if I told you I

1670
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: could see in the future at two thousand and forty five,

1671
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: twenty something years from now, and MMA looks very similar

1672
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: to now except for one major change. Fighters who are

1673
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: able to take their opponents down and get to mount

1674
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: can score a victory by keeping their opponent's shoulders down

1675
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: for three full seconds to score a fight ending pinfall. Yes,

1676
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: it's like amateur wrestling and pro wrestling mixed together under

1677
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: the MMA flag explained to me the potential pros and

1678
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: cons of what that rule change might do to this

1679
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,520
Speaker 2: sport over the next twenty years.

1680
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: So you could win, is it only from mount holding

1681
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: the shoulders like side control too?

1682
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: If you'd have to get to mount and if you

1683
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: can hold down the shoulder for three seconds with the

1684
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: ref counting in addition to submission or knockout or quitting

1685
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 2: bad that you can get a pinfall win.

1686
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't think this would substantially change things. Getting to

1687
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: mount is difficult to do. It's hard to do. Securing

1688
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: mount and holding the position is hard to do. And

1689
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 1: then pins from mount they obviously can be done, especially

1690
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: if you can scoop both of the under arms and

1691
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: then you can wrap your hands around the top. It

1692
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: becomes a lot more easy to hold someone there. But

1693
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: that is a skill that is just not widely developed.

1694
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: I think you would see it. I definitely think you

1695
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: would see it. What will be interesting is with this count.

1696
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: So I get to mount on my opponent and my

1697
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: opponent lazily just lays there, does that count? If they

1698
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: lazily later for three counts, does that count as a pin?

1699
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? So the real effect of this wouldn't be the

1700
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: pinfalls so much as the threat of the pinfalls and

1701
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: how that would change grappling.

1702
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: That's right, And so it would be it would require

1703
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: you to be on your side, which you're supposed to

1704
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: be anyway, but it would require you to be on

1705
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: your side. Would be interesting. Is like the mount part

1706
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: is interesting, but like from half guard, you would still

1707
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: get some laziness there because it wouldn't really count. I

1708
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: would say it might make things a little bit more

1709
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: interesting from the control position, but I A, I don't

1710
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: think there'd be a lot of it, and B I

1711
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: think the fans would revolt because they just wouldn't accept

1712
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 1: that that was a dynamic way of winning. Especially like

1713
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: let's say someone gets the takedown, they get the pass,

1714
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 1: they get the mount, they get the pin, but before

1715
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: that they got their shit rocked and they were bleeding everywhere,

1716
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: and it was only because this guy's ground game is

1717
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: not that great, or maybe he was injured whatever, Like

1718
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: you just you kind of lucked into this one new

1719
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: style of the game.

1720
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can look into a submission like Anderson

1721
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: Silova against chill sonon right.

1722
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but a submission. I mean there's a granting and

1723
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: an acceptance of the position you are willingly saying, I

1724
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: give up. Even if someone grabs your shoulders.

1725
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: Three seconds bro three seconds though, that's I.

1726
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: Get it, I get it. I I think it would.

1727
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: It would certainly add some dynamism to the passing and

1728
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: then the mount game. But even then, I think fighters

1729
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: would probably still not go for it all that much.

1730
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: It'd be a slight change, not a significant one.

1731
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, Luke, that's fair. It's a good faith response.

1732
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to spin number two. Whoop. Yes, yes he is.

1733
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm always pissed.

1734
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas is still pissed.

1735
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: Luke.

1736
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: We all remember your short lived but very explosive eSPI

1737
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: Nation digital show titled Luke Thomas's Pissed. That saw you

1738
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: prominent MMA journalist openly taking hilarious shits on everything from

1739
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: politics to pop culture and sports in between. We've got

1740
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: some video in the background of what that used to

1741
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: look like. You had less gray, you had a weird

1742
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 2: sixty one behind you. Luke. I'm speaking honestly here. That

1743
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: was a pretty badass show. I used to watch it

1744
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: and I was entertained by it. Was creative and you

1745
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 2: were very aggressive, but that shit didn't last. What is

1746
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: the true story behind the show's origin, why it didn't work,

1747
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: and why have you not created a combat sports only

1748
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: version of this that can run under the MK banner

1749
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 2: as a standalone franchise.

1750
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: I could do it again. Here was the issue with it.

1751
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: I actually called it off. It didn't fail in the

1752
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: sense that Espianation wanted to stop. They wanted me to

1753
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: keep going. I chose to stop. So this was their

1754
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: idea to begin with. There was MME Fighting, which was

1755
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: under the umbrella of Espanation, and that was the MM

1756
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: Fighting was the MM Vertical, and then there was a

1757
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: whole video team that was separate from that, just with Espianation,

1758
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: the separate video team. They liked me a lot. MME

1759
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: Fighting I thought didn't never really like me, but they

1760
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: liked me a lot. And then they came to me

1761
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: and they pitched me. They're like, hey, what they liked

1762
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: my takes or whatever? The fuck? The show that the

1763
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: crew that filmed MMA fightings the MMA Beat also filmed

1764
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: this one, including the producers. So the producers came to me,

1765
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: They're like, we're looking to expand content. What if we

1766
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: had a show where you just shat on everything, and

1767
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and so we've sort of worked

1768
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: out the format and I tried it. So I wrote.

1769
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: I wrote every episode with a but like my best

1770
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: friend as a matter of fact, who lived in New York,

1771
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: we would write these together. And the reason why I

1772
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: stopped doing it is because I think at the time

1773
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I forget exactly what was happening, but

1774
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: I was trying to make sure that all of the

1775
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I had. I knew that this was a fun thing

1776
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: to do, but I didn't think it was going to

1777
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: go very far even if I kept going. And it

1778
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: was a nice little distraction because I'd hardly ever touched

1779
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: on combat sports effect that I think I've maybe done

1780
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: one combat sports story. The whole time. I want to

1781
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: do other stuff, but I was trying to make sure

1782
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: I could focus things on MMA, and it was just

1783
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: so much work to get these just right. And the

1784
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: other part was like I would I would record a

1785
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: big thing and then they would edit it down without

1786
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: my input, and I often didn't like the way they

1787
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: would leave out jokes that I thought were fucking awesome.

1788
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: So uh so, so like me creating this segment you

1789
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 2: wanted to do your long intros with the fans were like,

1790
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: you're too long.

1791
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: The long story short is that it was a fun

1792
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: thing to try. I'm glad I did it. I'm the

1793
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: one who called it off because it was just too

1794
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: much work. But yeah, that's the story. That's all right.

1795
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 2: Two quick follow up questions. One, look into that video

1796
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 2: right now, Luke, that's what you could look like if

1797
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: you colored your hair and beard. You'd look young as shit. Luke.

1798
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: Well, I'm working on the weight loss, so give me

1799
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: some time. That's already in motion. Had another good way

1800
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: in today. By the way, I'm feeling fucking good, so

1801
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy with that.

1802
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Did you grab the towel DC style?

1803
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: I'll look, No, I didn't need. I didn't need. Actually

1804
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: I didn't need to. I came in a pound and

1805
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: a half under the goal. I was fucking happy with that.

1806
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 2: I'll applaud that. Good to hear on that. Look. The

1807
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 2: other question is do you think this could work given

1808
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: your platform? If it was combat sports only and you

1809
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: to make the kind of jokes that would zing and hit,

1810
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: you'd become an enemy of the fighters. Would you be

1811
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 2: would you want to do that if the money was right,

1812
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: would you be willing to?

1813
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

1814
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, okay, all right, all right, okay, Well, hey,

1815
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: I'll be your writer if you want, we can recreate this, Luke.

1816
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, well I can't make every joke about

1817
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 1: my testicles, baby, please, so we'd have to get a

1818
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: little bit more variety. But yeah, I dude, I enjoyed it.

1819
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: I like that, you know.

1820
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: All right, three spins to go, Luke, pick your poor

1821
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: don here, let's do it. Hey, peeing on ends, We've

1822
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 2: all done that, Luke. Some people say that when it rains,

1823
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: it's just God taking a pee, right, Well.

1824
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: Uh no, it was. The Romans used to believe that

1825
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: it was God pissing through a sieve.

1826
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. And if I pour

1827
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: a can of soda on an end, he probably thinks

1828
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 2: that it's an acid rainstorm, or that the ozone layer

1829
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: has fully broken, or that Total Recall isn't just an

1830
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 2: action movie, but possibly a preview to our planet's future

1831
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 2: once the aliens reveal themselves and procreate with the human species.

1832
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 2: I say all this nonsense to say, Luke, that no

1833
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: matter how smart you think you are, we don't really

1834
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: know everything. Or even anything truth wise about space, the

1835
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: Solar systems, the planets, or any other final frontiers. Just

1836
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 2: like that damn ant that I'm pissing on, does it

1837
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: know that it's not raining, Luke? So with that in mind,

1838
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: imagine your daughter in a year or two starts really

1839
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: wondering things about space in exploration and all that, and

1840
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: she's looking for you for detailed, educated, direct answer. What's

1841
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: your best guess for what the Earth's role is in

1842
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: the larger Solar system and how much life is actually

1843
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 2: out there? And really how long it will take for

1844
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: our species to realize the.

1845
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: Truth, Luke, the truth being.

1846
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: Whatever that truth is, so to speak. Because I can't

1847
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: sit here and believe, Luke, that we are the only

1848
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,799
Speaker 2: life form here on Earth and that our nine planets

1849
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: are the only you know, life form in this universe.

1850
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 2: So how would you, based on your studies, accurately describe

1851
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: that to your daughter? And you know, how far are

1852
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: we on actually finding this out look as a society?

1853
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: How far we are along? I do not know. I

1854
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: don't know what the answer there could possibly be. I

1855
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see. There are all, of course,

1856
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: all those UFOs that have been recorded by navy pilots

1857
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: that are interesting but still debated. I'm with you. I

1858
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: firmly believe that if the distance between the Earth and

1859
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: the Sun is approximately not just the distance, but in

1860
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: the development of solar systems plus that distance, where you know,

1861
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you have this relationship of mass being collected after the

1862
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,919
Speaker 1: formation of a galaxy and then a solar system in particular,

1863
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: and then the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

1864
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: These are the conditions under which life can possibly be created.

1865
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: You look at the overwhelming numerical scale of things, it

1866
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: is impossible to believe that we are the only ones

1867
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: that are sentient beings. There's obviously other life. They have

1868
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: found bacteria on meteors, for example, that could not have

1869
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: come from the I think they found some stuff in space,

1870
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: but even then it could not have come through entry

1871
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: into the atmosphere. So we already know that on a

1872
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: basic life there are other forms of life beyond ours.

1873
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: But for sure there has to be in the grand

1874
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: scale of the universe. My explanation would be, like, you know,

1875
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: if you're asking like why is there? Are you asking like?

1876
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,879
Speaker 1: Why is there something other than nothing? Kind of a question? Okay,

1877
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: why is there a big bang? Kind of thing.

1878
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm looking for your personal views on what's

1879
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: out there, mixed with like, I mean, look, we went

1880
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: on the Moon in nineteen sixty nine. I don't really

1881
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: think we've done shit since then.

1882
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: So we've had an international space station that's been a

1883
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: focus of international cooperation for a long time, and it's

1884
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,839
Speaker 1: done some mater We also landed on Mars with robots basically,

1885
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: and have sent a lot of stuff back from our

1886
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: collection on Mars. We've not done nothing, But I agree, like,

1887
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: of a moment, would you.

1888
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: Be shocked to find out that Earth is the equivalent

1889
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: of like when you walk around and look down on

1890
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: the ground, there's a tiny pebble there.

1891
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Sure, I think the probably. I think the scale of

1892
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: life is vastly beyond what we can imagine. The question

1893
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: is like, what does it look like? How will these

1894
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: different life forms ever make contact with one another under

1895
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: what circumstances? That is very very hard. I couldn't possibly

1896
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: offer an answer, but I do believe very firmly it's

1897
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: impossible to believe that we are merely the only life forms.

1898
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: I do think we probably have had contact on some

1899
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: level with other forms of life beyond just simple bacteria

1900
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: on meteors. But how and when that will happen and

1901
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: what that will look like. I'm at the mercy of

1902
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: Independence Day movies.

1903
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: I mean, what if I told you I knew for

1904
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: a fact that there are other life forms all around us, Luke,

1905
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: we just can't see them in this spirit realm.

1906
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Well, you're just saying words that don't mean anything, all right.

1907
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: Who would be the first in your friend circle to

1908
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: admit they would bang an alien? That's really what I

1909
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: want to know you, because one day that's going to

1910
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: We're going to cross over there. Okay, I've seen told you.

1911
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: And you would justify it with like, oh, it doesn't

1912
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: count against my marriage because it's not an earthling or

1913
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: some shit like that.

1914
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 2: Look, the more that I try to think about these

1915
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 2: vast topics, my mind just swells, and I realized, we

1916
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: don't know shit. Forget what the government's not telling us, Luke.

1917
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 2: We just literally don't know shit. We have no idea nothing.

1918
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we will die as ants in the universe.

1919
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we could be. We think we're the elite

1920
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: species because we killed all them dinosaurs, Luke. We may be.

1921
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: We may I mean, we're idiots let's be fair.

1922
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: All right. Also, we didn't kill the dinosaurs. They went extinct.

1923
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 2: So who so chicken and egg?

1924
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 3: Who?

1925
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: Who did? What?

1926
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 5: What?

1927
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 2: They run out of food?

1928
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 5: Luke?

1929
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: What happened?

1930
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1931
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: Are is your impression that man existed at the same

1932
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: time as dinosaurs? You know, don't? I don't really to death.

1933
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: My impression on a lot of things is especially you know,

1934
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: there's a difference between to me, to be between like

1935
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: faith based things and like just history. There's a lot

1936
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: of history that I'm like, you know, how do we

1937
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: have any freakin' idea what went on two thousand years ago?

1938
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Luke? How old? How old do you imagine the earth

1939
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: to be?

1940
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, when a tree gets cut down and they

1941
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: look at the rings and go, oh, this tree has

1942
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: been around for twenty years. You don't have a freaking

1943
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: clue how old that tree is?

1944
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: All right? They actually can do carbon isotope ratio testing and.

1945
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Guess what, Luke. The the sailors in the in the

1946
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 2: four hundred thought, in the four hundred year thought, like

1947
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: many NBA players, that the earth was flat, all right, Luke, Okay,

1948
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 2: until they found out it wasn't right.

1949
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you're just saying words now they don't mean anything.

1950
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: They have a pretty strong degree of scientific certainty based

1951
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: on the half life of odd.

1952
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: Don't don't sit here on science, Luke. A lot of

1953
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 2: sciences is projection.

1954
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that doesn't mean anything, but go ahead, Luke.

1955
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes you I'll say this about you, and I see

1956
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: it's a respectful insult. Sometimes you're too smart for your

1957
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 2: own good.

1958
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think that's true. All right, five alarm

1959
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: Jesus sounds like wow.

1960
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 2: Now the regular booty that was on the wheel, Luke

1961
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: wants the five alarm fire booty. All right, Luke, consider

1962
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: this a moral dilemma. The houses in DC and your

1963
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 2: neighborhood are built close together, I'm assuming because it's a city, right,

1964
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 2: more or less.

1965
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1966
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 2: Imagine you and your wife go to put your daughter

1967
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,879
Speaker 2: to bed tonight, and as you are closing the blind

1968
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: you notice that not only have the new neighbors moved in,

1969
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: a middle aged bald man and his much younger lbb

1970
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: of a wife. Hmm. But Luke, beyond moving in, they

1971
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: are undergoing a full strip tease next door with their

1972
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 2: blinds up. The next night, you go to close the

1973
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: blinds again as your wife and you say good night

1974
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 2: to your daughter, and that's stripped teas well. It's escalated, Luke. Okay,

1975
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 2: they're wow. It's erotic as shit, all right, Luke. That

1976
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: third night you won to the window to make sure

1977
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 2: your wife and daughter don't see you, and you notice that. Okay, yep,

1978
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: this is there's something going on here. So Luke, what

1979
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 2: do you do next? I've got a moral dilemma that

1980
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: has three answers. You pick one what you would do?

1981
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 2: One tell no one and privately enjoy that show after

1982
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 2: you put your daughter down each night. Two tell your wife,

1983
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 2: and the two of you can decide together what to

1984
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 2: do next and how to navigate this awkwardness between close

1985
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 2: living neighbors. Or three, head on over by yourself, knock

1986
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: on the door and ask your neighbors to be more discreet,

1987
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: considering your daughter's window is like ten yards away from them.

1988
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Putting on the leather and the ball and gag. Luke,

1989
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 2: what would you do if your son was at home

1990
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 2: crying all alone on the dead living room floor, Luke,

1991
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 2: because he's hungry, you know what I'm saying? What would

1992
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: you do in this spot?

1993
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: Where's that nineties counter?

1994
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 2: That's early two thousands please, oh, oh.

1995
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, I would split the difference between

1996
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: one and two. So what I would do is I

1997
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 1: would watch for several nights and just be like a

1998
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: complete perv and be like, this is money, and I

1999
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: can't believe how easily I lucked out. But you have

2000
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: to know this is see, this is what gamblers get

2001
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 1: in trouble. They're like, oh, I'll just keep doing this forever.

2002
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: M mmmm, that doesn't work. I would watch for a

2003
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 1: few nights, and then I would be like, all right,

2004
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: this is this is enough. And then only after I

2005
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: have indulged privately, well not so privately, I suppose, but indulged.

2006
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: Only then would I be to my wife, you won't

2007
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: believe what these creeps are doing. Let's go. You gotta

2008
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: see this. What should we do about it? And then

2009
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: I get to enjoy the nastiness of my neighbors with

2010
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: the you know, with the upstanding behavior of a model

2011
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: citizen for a husband, I.

2012
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: Think you're trying to create your you're trying to order

2013
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: off the menu here, and be like, well, I would

2014
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 2: get my wife involved, and then the two of us

2015
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 2: would watch it every night together and it'd be it really.

2016
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing that shit better than chocolate.

2017
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's great.

2018
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:24,959
Speaker 1: We're not swingers.

2019
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 2: No, all right, all right, it's all pretty gross. The

2020
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 2: correct answer, Luke, by the way, was uh was was one?

2021
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 2: Just so you know, the correct answer was number one.

2022
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, Luke, you got one

2023
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: more spin. I don't know if this wheel is ever

2024
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 2: coming back. You got one more spin.

2025
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Let's see. I like the the wheels good today. I

2026
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: like the wheels a little bit quicker. All right, here

2027
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: we go. Let's see what we got killed by kindness.

2028
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: Look, I want a legitimate answer here. You don't like

2029
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 2: long intest, so let's ask it like this. What's the

2030
01:33:51,800 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: nicest thing anyone has ever said to you about you?

2031
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 6: Jesus, you know that had a lasting impact that references

2032
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,719
Speaker 6: and rings true in your mind, often either to remind

2033
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 6: yourself that you ain't that bad or just to motivate yourself.

2034
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Luke, I mean, we all love We all love positive reviews,

2035
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 2: positive comments in the YouTube. We all love that shit, Luke. Okay,

2036
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: we love when our dad calls us up and says

2037
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 2: good job. So what's the time you know that you

2038
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 2: were the most were like, yeah, I'm gonna say, I don't.

2039
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Know if I can remember any one particular compliment, but

2040
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 1: I can say just in terms of how my parents

2041
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 1: received me at that time, I can't say like the

2042
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: two proudest moments that they had. And obviously my mom

2043
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: was deceased not long after the second of these two,

2044
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: so obviously you know them being both of them proud

2045
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: is It's a fairly narrow window at this age of

2046
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: my life. But they were beaming with pride when I

2047
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: graduated boot Camp. They had a lot of nice things

2048
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: say that day. An unmistakable, unmistakable pride for sure was

2049
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: the one I'd say there. And then on the other side,

2050
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: graduating college I got I got a lot of nice

2051
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: comments because I had was a double major and everything,

2052
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: and I actually picked it was kind of funny. You

2053
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: can pick you if you're a double major. You can

2054
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: only go to one graduation ceremony, so you have to

2055
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: pick which major that is. And the major that I picked,

2056
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: I graduated philosophy, but my major that I picked was government.

2057
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 1: The reason why is because the original Limb and Mary,

2058
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: which was built in the seventeen hundreds, it's called the

2059
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: ren Building. It's the main building of campus. If you're

2060
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: a government major or political science, you get to have

2061
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: your graduation ceremony in the grass garden outside of the

2062
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: ren ceremony or the ren building, which is perhaps the

2063
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: best one anywhere on a campus that was built, you know,

2064
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: obviously in the sixteen hundreds. And so I did that

2065
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: and it was such a big occasion, and my parents

2066
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: were there, and it was the last time they were

2067
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: ever together, actually, and they had a lot of nice

2068
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: things to say that time. So, I mean, I've had

2069
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: people say nice things, don't get me wrong, but unmistakable

2070
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: joy on everyone's faces is not a look that I

2071
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 1: get a lot of. I got him on those two days.

2072
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: I got him on those two days.

2073
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 2: So funny you gave out that look when you saw

2074
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: your neighbors through the window and you were trying to

2075
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 2: put your daughter down, But you've noticed.

2076
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: But I was fully clothed, and my parents were the

2077
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: other times that one I was, you.

2078
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: Know, okay, okay, well done, Luke. We try with this shit.

2079
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 2: We tried. There's your damn wheel for today.

2080
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so we have to do fan subs.

2081
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 1: My friend will roll right into it, good sir.

2082
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, morning combat at gmail dot com. You know the routine, Friday,

2083
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Dead Wrongs Wednesday. You send us your picks, your memes,

2084
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: your whatever. Let's roll Luke. We referenced it last week

2085
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 2: because it was such a big moment. I'm gonna ask

2086
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 2: you straight up, does this make him our fan of

2087
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: the Year for twenty twenty one. We've got mail, We've

2088
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 2: got mail. The Great Bassis for Dead and Company, formerly

2089
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 2: of the Allman Brothers, O'teel Burbridge shared with us some

2090
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 2: fantastic picks of showing up at the Red Rock Theater

2091
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: outside of Denver, Colorado on tour with the Dead Bob,

2092
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 2: where John Mayer and company wearing are freakin' merch Luke

2093
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 2: on stage with all them hippies living and loving it up.

2094
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 2: Good got this guy.

2095
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: First of all, that venue is iconic and that gesture

2096
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: is amazing, truly truly amazing.

2097
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 2: Shout out to you, good sir, o'tel slapping that bass.

2098
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. We love you back, Thank you. That's

2099
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: some webscream like shit right there. I'm really happy about that.

2100
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Paul. He says, I'll start

2101
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 2: by saying this show is perfect, and I don't listen

2102
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 2: to all the donks that try to get you to

2103
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 2: change anything about it. The true donks out there love

2104
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 2: the show because you guys are out there being yourselves.

2105
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 2: You don't cater to anyone. So I figured i'd send

2106
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 2: in a picture of me and enjoying some of my

2107
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 2: favorite brew while watching my favorite show. Keep up the

2108
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 2: great work, and Luke, you can look as hard as

2109
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 2: you want, but you're gonna find nothing but stellar cable management.

2110
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: That's how it's done. Look at that cable management. That's amazing.

2111
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 1: He did a great job with that. Unbelievable sir. I

2112
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: mean he hit it behind all the Yeah.

2113
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: He hit it behind all them plants. But I'll accept that, Luke.

2114
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: Okay, me too. That's good.

2115
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 2: Big fan of this guy, Paul. All right, Pavel is here, Luke.

2116
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 2: You think it's Pavel of the U of Chevchenko Fame. Well, greetings, donks,

2117
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 2: your mug landed in bid go sace poland try to

2118
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 2: spell this ship Hyderia. Just want to give good morning

2119
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 2: vibes while updating my VM for testing. Luke, what's a VM?

2120
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2121
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't care about cable management. So if you Luke,

2122
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: so fu Luke. Wow, Pavel's like, Luke, I don't care

2123
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 2: about it, so fuck off.

2124
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Can BC.

2125
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 2: You're cool. I'm out cheers, keep this ship up. PS,

2126
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: will you cover uber Ing versus Rico for all the

2127
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 2: Mexican supplements after that Ring versus Boddy. This guy's writing

2128
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 2: in gibbers. I can't read the rest of it.

2129
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was Overine was supposed to fight uh ver Hooven,

2130
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: and then ver Hoven fought uh I think ben Zadik.

2131
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, the hardcores are mad at us, Luke. Two

2132
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 2: weeks in a row, we didn't cover Kickbox.

2133
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: I know we fucked that up too quite candidly, but.

2134
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 2: All right, Pavel, thank you for buying our merch out there.

2135
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 2: And Polski, we love you a couple couple. Uh look

2136
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 2: what's Polish?

2137
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: Fair?

2138
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Pancake? Put the parogiss the dona, Oh the Punchki's are

2139
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 2: all right, let's get back to normal. Brett says dear

2140
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 2: Luken BC. I'm an MK Day one fan. Thanks for

2141
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,879
Speaker 2: everything you do here. I am getting in some fitness

2142
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: training and my Factory Town MMA T shirt. Fortunately the

2143
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 2: shirt is only printed on the back, so I didn't

2144
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 2: have to show my face. Shout out to trainers Kelsey,

2145
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Aaron and Anne Marie at the Integrated Combat Center in Sydney, Australia.

2146
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 2: Love this shit, Luke boy.

2147
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 1: Look at the traps on this muscle bound man.

2148
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 2: Hey he's a little older, Luke, but he's showing that

2149
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: you can get out there and get it done while

2150
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 2: wearing our merch.

2151
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: All right, I know I like to I like to

2152
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: roast our. I don't know why I started doing this,

2153
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: but I kind of like roasting our audience even though

2154
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: they're doing incredibly nice things. So that's a great shirt.

2155
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Great use of it.

2156
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: Do some shrugs, all right, Thank you, sir Brett, Thank

2157
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 2: you for that. Peter's got two photos. He says, I've

2158
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 2: been a fan of Luke since the live chat was

2159
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: on YouTube and when he used to be on Spike

2160
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 2: tv BC. Is cool too, because it is nice to

2161
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 2: have someone who can make a joke and counter Luke's

2162
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 2: serious style. The first pick is me enjoying my two

2163
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 2: favorite beers and some tacos. The second one is me

2164
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: in my thirties that has just passed about to eat

2165
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: the Simpson inspired donut from Universal Studios. Thanks for everything,

2166
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: love watching your show on my drive to work each day,

2167
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 2: love watching your Oh maybe someone drives him, Luke, I

2168
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 2: don't know.

2169
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: BC. First of all, he's got a man bag, so

2170
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 1: eat shit on that.

2171
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Number one. No, I don't know's I don't know about that?

2172
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 2: Is that a real Is that a real man? I

2173
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: mean you try to sit here and act tough and

2174
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 2: be like see BC, tough guys wear man purses from Europe.

2175
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 2: Now they don't. They really don't.

2176
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: Look it's not from you. It's not from Europe. It's

2177
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: a chromebag, which.

2178
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really where I come from. Luke, you're like

2179
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: bees last the other day, You're like, b you ain't

2180
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 2: an animal because you won't kill you in a real man,

2181
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 2: because you won't kill an animal and eat it yourself. Well, Luke,

2182
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 2: at least I'm not wearing a man bag.

2183
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, that doesn't help. I would rather be

2184
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: the guy who actually can hold a firearm and kill

2185
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: meat versus the guy who thinks that carrying shit in

2186
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,440
Speaker 1: inefficient way is feminine.

2187
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Peter, thank you for taking down that

2188
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 2: donut and those beers in those talks.

2189
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: Awesome. By the way, that did.

2190
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 2: Look very good at Universal Studios. I'm sure it cost

2191
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: him thirty six dollars. All right, Lea slides in, He says,

2192
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 2: not since I had emailed Luke berating him for his

2193
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 2: positive views on an upcoming diz mosvedal Vaut, had I

2194
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 2: suffered such a fail as I did when attempting to

2195
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: deadlife last week. This week I tried again sporting my

2196
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 2: MK merch. Turns out the MK merch has some anabolic

2197
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 2: properties and took this one without too much of a problem.

2198
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Big fan from Scotland, Keep up the hard work. Can

2199
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: we blow this up? Luke? I need you to talk

2200
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 2: about his form, his physique. Why he's ordering small T

2201
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 2: shirts on a medium sized frame.

2202
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: This is pretty good good. Actually, he does a little

2203
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 1: bit too much of a lean back at the top,

2204
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: but that's a small thing. It's not a huge You

2205
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: can just hurt yourself if you could lean back. You

2206
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: see these guys who do the matrix things at the top.

2207
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: It's a little bit too much. All you really need

2208
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: to do is just squeeze your glutes together, which he did.

2209
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 2: He did.

2210
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: He did all that too. It does look to me

2211
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: like his hips don't go quite low enough, but I

2212
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: could be wrong about that. It's hard to tell from

2213
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: this angle. But all in all, that's a that's a

2214
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: pretty smooth pole man. I mean maybe he doesn't quite

2215
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,480
Speaker 1: set his lats. I mean there's small shit you could

2216
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: you could get after if he sticks his dick out there,

2217
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 1: which you know can he wears some looser pants. Guy

2218
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I don't need to see I don't need

2219
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: to see that fucking you know, belly button sticking out

2220
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 1: underneath your dungareesh. Look I mean, look at that, go back,

2221
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 1: go back. I want to see his hog go back.

2222
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: Look at this wearing these pants. Look at this. I

2223
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 1: want everyone to see my dick when I squeeze my glutes.

2224
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: Watch watch, watch, watch squeezes him all look at that?

2225
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh yes, guy Scottishly, he's got big time bde. We

2226
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 2: don't have time.

2227
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: I can't hear you.

2228
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Here we go, Peter says, what's up sun Puncher's little

2229
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 2: shot of me on vacation in Nova Scotia. I'd love

2230
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 2: to tell you that I'm ripping some dimebag and Pat

2231
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: METHENI licks because I swing both ways, but I'm actually

2232
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 2: just making my own shit up. I'd rather not lie

2233
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: to the gentleman who bring me the truth almost every day.

2234
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 2: All day. Any chance of a UFC pay per view

2235
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: reaction did with both of you guys, Maybe take turn

2236
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 2: sleeping fans since day one fan to the no doubt

2237
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 2: ugly ending, and the ending will be ugly. Let me

2238
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 2: tell you that. Can we zoom in quick? This guy Peter, look,

2239
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 2: he says he swings both ways. I think he's saying musically.

2240
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about his actual orientation, but I love

2241
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 2: him in that BDE shirt. And that's a nice looking

2242
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: guitar he's got as well.

2243
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 1: It is a nice looking guitar. Look at that setup

2244
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: too on that like it's like a mini iPad or

2245
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck he's got going on there. That's a

2246
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: nast little thing going I like that. That's a good setup.

2247
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: His pants don't match anything, and the worst things I've

2248
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life.

2249
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: But everything else that's Yarmouth County, Nova, Scotia. You know

2250
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 2: he's having a little vacation there. I don't know if

2251
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 2: there's women involved. Not really going to ask further, but

2252
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 2: thank you, Peter. Let's go over to Gregory Day one fan.

2253
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for the new merch. I've had to work out

2254
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 2: a loan since January sixth, but recently, I've been able

2255
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 2: to bring you to along with me to the gym.

2256
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 2: It's always nice to have other washed dads to work

2257
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 2: out with. Keep up the great content. I can't wait

2258
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 2: to get that drug rug when it drops. Hey order today,

2259
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 2: Greg all right?

2260
01:44:38,439 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 7: Oh god, no, no, no, you know what's funny.

2261
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: Actually his technique is pretty good all the way around.

2262
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: There's not a lot about that I didn't like.

2263
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 2: Well, there was a lot about that video, like Gregor,

2264
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 2: we fucking are fighting right now? What are we doing here?

2265
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, have you?

2266
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 2: I said, when you're gonna come on? I didn't mean

2267
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 2: like this. Okay, but thank you for ordering much of

2268
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 2: our merch. Luke. This guy he knows his way around

2269
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 2: that Jim.

2270
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: He does. He is an experienced lifter. You can tell. Also,

2271
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: please quit sticking your ass out and in Geene Schwartz,

2272
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: thank you.

2273
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. I bet he's strong

2274
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,480
Speaker 2: as f Luke, like Brendan Shaub.

2275
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Strong af Yes, yeah, all.

2276
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: Right, uh Tazos is here. Well, someone had to do it.

2277
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 2: I felt the duty to step forward. Regards from Greece.

2278
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's just that's the guy that came out before.

2279
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: Uh well, probably Fury yeah, test and fury fight. Yeah,

2280
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,520
Speaker 1: this is uncomfortable.

2281
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: That is not that is not good. Thank you, Ta tassos, tasos,

2282
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 2: don't tastos me bro uh no name sent this? And hey,

2283
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 2: Luke in BC, you recently spoke about putting pins on

2284
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 2: a map where all your listeners are from. If you

2285
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 2: ever do it, be sure to put one in for Johannesburg,

2286
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 2: South Africa. I've had problems trying to keep get my

2287
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 2: merch ship down here. So here's just a couple of

2288
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 2: memes I cooked.

2289
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: Up for you. Mahatma is a title, not a name.

2290
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: And also BBL doesn't need an apostrophe before the s.

2291
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 1: But yes, this is a great one.

2292
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 2: He's got two more. What else we got here?

2293
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I like that. I like that

2294
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: last one. These are very good.

2295
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 2: These are very those are on point. They're no name,

2296
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, we got a man

2297
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: named Adrian who has three a's in his name. Luke,

2298
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 2: it's interesting.

2299
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: Okay, we got to move this a long and see me. Yep, yep,

2300
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 1: that's fair.

2301
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to Patrick Love the extra

2302
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 2: credit segment you all started. Keep up the great work.

2303
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: It's Patrick from Baltimore or Baltimore as the locals call it. Yep, yep,

2304
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 2: he nailed that. He nailed that big booty latin. That's

2305
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 2: all right. Jordan with an E has a fan submission.

2306
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 2: I do shirt art for grindcore and black metal bands

2307
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 2: for a hobby, and I made this art from one

2308
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 2: of your promo photos.

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01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 5: Ah.

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01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: He drew it, yo, he said, he drew this black

2311
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 2: metal art style look.

2312
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 1: He did. Although the name looks more like it's melting

2313
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 1: than it is, like lightning kind of veiny thing, but

2314
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 1: still looks pretty good.

2315
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: Gross veiny. Thank you. Uh, what's that guy's name? I

2316
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 2: don't know, Jordan with an E, thank you, sir. That

2317
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: is that is pretty that's good art. I know art.

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01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: That's good art. Let's go over to tune t O

2319
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: o N. He's got two memes.

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Speaker 3: For us.

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Speaker 1: With Hossible whatever his name is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as Beulah that guy, that guy's something. Yeah

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Speaker 2: all right, I mean yeah that's us, Luke, that's our family. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you got anything else from this guy?

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good too.

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Speaker 2: Actually, all right, one more from Alan W who's indulging

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Speaker 2: in the squid games just like Luke. Oh that is.

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Speaker 1: You don't get that. I mean, you get you halfway

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Speaker 1: get this joke, but you don't actually get not my fault.

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Speaker 2: I was born in the seventies and don't get this. Luke,

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Speaker 2: it's not my fault.

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Speaker 1: You should watch squid game. That is uh dude, that's

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Speaker 1: that's more clever than actually you might might appreciate. That's good.

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Speaker 1: That one. That's the best one all day. That's that's really, really,

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you folks for all of your memes, for your pictures,

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Speaker 2: no idea what they just heard or saw because they

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Speaker 2: ain't seen shit. Thank you very much. That's all.

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Speaker 2: Go, No, I don't have the shit to say a joy.

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