Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi Jana, Hi.
Speaker 3: I always stare at Kat in the thing because she
Speaker 3: just looks miserable, miserable.
Speaker 2: You were like I was listening, Yeah, yeah, yeah, where
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 4: I am?
Speaker 2: You left your ear int here?
Speaker 5: I did?
Speaker 2: J I'm great, wow checking in.
Speaker 4: You seem a little flustered today.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm good today.
Speaker 4: You're good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm great.
Speaker 4: I don't know why you could possibly be flustered exactly,
Speaker 4: nothing going on.
Speaker 2: Having a baby, moving into a house, planning a wedding,
Speaker 2: and you have a handsome viance. Thank you. I just
Speaker 2: can't imagine why one would be flustered. I shampooed. I'd
Speaker 2: like to give a shout out to myself. That's great.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 4: That looks great.
Speaker 2: Let's not go too crazy. It looks clean, it looks.
Speaker 4: Clean, looks amazing. So what were you about to say?
Speaker 2: Kab I'm disturbed, So I listen. I think we all
Speaker 2: struggle with this piece of social media anyways about sharing
Speaker 2: our children, right m hm. So I shared this picture
Speaker 2: on a story of Legends big Manfoot, because he's just huge.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's like hurting my feelings and
Speaker 2: becoming little boys for sure, like true boys.
Speaker 4: Like dudes.
Speaker 2: Like he's starting to smell like a dude when he
Speaker 2: comes home from like baseball. I'm like, oh my sweat dirt,
Speaker 2: Like this is crazy, you know. And so I put
Speaker 2: lyon's little foot. The baby's little foot was next to
Speaker 2: his foot, just their feet and that's all it was.
Speaker 2: And I got this DM that was like make money
Speaker 2: off of feet pictures. Oh that's just is just so agusting.
Speaker 5: I want.
Speaker 2: I mean, if I it wouldn't go anywhere if I
Speaker 2: wrote back. But I did have a moment. I was
Speaker 2: just wanted to type a few things, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: And it's anyways, that's that. It just really disturbed me.
Speaker 2: Just fliprey space out there. Guys, Yeah, cares baby.
Speaker 1: Would happen if you were like yeah, I would love that,
Speaker 1: and like would they really be like send me more
Speaker 1: feet of your children?
Speaker 2: That's a thing, right, It's disgusting, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's so disgusting. It's like unfortunate world. Yeah, the pedophiles
Speaker 2: in this world today is disgusting. So I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I just I was wondering people love like well, adult feet,
Speaker 1: but I wondered if it went general.
Speaker 4: I can't have this conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, like it. I totally hate it. I
Speaker 2: had to. You knew I did. I'm the lame joke maker. No,
Speaker 2: but that's there's a I don't there's a line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's yeah.
Speaker 3: People do make a lot of money and that only
Speaker 3: fancing though. I just would never do it because the
Speaker 3: same thing. Whenever I post my feet, people would be like,
Speaker 3: get an only fans account, and I'm like, is that
Speaker 3: how much can you make on there? I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't got to suck on them. But
Speaker 3: I would never do it.
Speaker 1: It's like a celeus question. Now is it only feet?
Speaker 1: You can do like anything. But it's just why do
Speaker 1: people always talk about it in relation to feet? That's
Speaker 1: all I ever hear about it. You know, so weird.
Speaker 2: Do you like feet? No?
Speaker 4: No, I don't like feet. Feet freak me out.
Speaker 2: Feet feel fine to me. I I don't want to
Speaker 2: touch them unless they're perfectly clean. Yeah, but I like
Speaker 2: giving a foot massage.
Speaker 4: I do not.
Speaker 2: My husband wishes I did. Oh really yeah, He's always like,
Speaker 2: you know what would be really great right now? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you grab the dice, she wasn't thinking that.
Speaker 2: He was thinking of foot massage, if you grab the
Speaker 2: dic And that's funny. Dyson is my love language. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you like feet.
Speaker 3: I don't mind. I don't like my feet. I love
Speaker 3: your feet are so cute.
Speaker 2: But I don't mind, though I don't. I don't seen
Speaker 2: cat's feet, you know.
Speaker 4: I don't like. I mean, they're just big, so I
Speaker 4: don't like them.
Speaker 3: Now and hates his feet, so he always has socks on.
Speaker 3: He does, yeah, and I'm like, kind of they're cute,
Speaker 3: they're you know, the best feat. I'm like, hey, God
Speaker 3: gave you one thing that's like not hot.
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, never taking his socks off again.
Speaker 3: But he has like soccer player feet, you know. So
Speaker 3: they've just been like hit and sure probably busted and
Speaker 3: broke in a.
Speaker 2: Million different ways.
Speaker 4: I imagine.
Speaker 3: I don't like the uneven toes like I like it
Speaker 3: when water.
Speaker 2: Falls down like a Verising commercial, hundred percent. Like I
Speaker 2: will say about my face, it is just like the away.
Speaker 2: So they say that that second toe is a leader toe.
Speaker 2: Interesting if it's longer than the front, which does freak
Speaker 2: me out a little bit. So he I think he
Speaker 2: has that, but like it's like it's I think.
Speaker 4: It goes one is longer than the big toe.
Speaker 3: She was interesting is my grandma. She her pinky toe
Speaker 3: was on top of her fourth toe right there.
Speaker 2: I was right there that before, like a criss cross
Speaker 2: like a but it's like she didn't even have it,
Speaker 2: like it's her pinky grew on like this.
Speaker 4: On top like a stacked such a I can't believe.
Speaker 3: Just if you see him without his socks on, which
Speaker 3: again he'll never do, but because he always wears those
Speaker 3: little tampon socks or whatever.
Speaker 5: But it was like like the barely door.
Speaker 2: They drive me crazy, like they're they're just like condem
Speaker 2: sock and.
Speaker 4: Makes me laugh even harder than you wear. You haven't
Speaker 4: seen this in the story. Yeah, but I didn't realize
Speaker 4: he wore them. That seems very like they go here
Speaker 4: and then like you know.
Speaker 6: I'm not but I gotta tell you those are not attractive.
Speaker 2: I'd rather see your broken foot. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird
Speaker 2: because it's like, Okay, we know what you're doing. It's
Speaker 2: the least amount of sock one can wear it. And
Speaker 2: then I'm like, if we go to someone's house, Like,
Speaker 2: what do you do keep.
Speaker 4: Your shoes on?
Speaker 2: Taptivity tap around with your keep your shoes Bash of
Speaker 2: Mescago has an amazing skit where he talks about taking
Speaker 2: shoes off at parties. He's like, don't make me walk
Speaker 2: around with the holds socks on, and then.
Speaker 3: Don't take your shoes off with no socks, because I'm
Speaker 3: the girl that doesn't wear socks soever. I don't even
Speaker 3: like I think I've owned like three pairs of socks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand why people want you to take
Speaker 1: your shoes off in the house, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: don't make me take your shoes off if we're like
Speaker 1: getting dressed up or like, if I'm just here hanging out,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but people do it all the time.
Speaker 2: It is we Like, I'm with you, I don't like
Speaker 2: shoes in my house, but if I was going to
Speaker 2: have a party.
Speaker 4: I'm not taking my shoes off. Yeah, right right.
Speaker 3: I will take my shoes off at you like y'all's houses,
Speaker 3: but I would feel weird to take it off in
Speaker 3: someone else's house if I had just like met them
Speaker 3: and now I'm just walking around with my bare feet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird and so tippy tappy tamp on condom socks.
Speaker 4: Which one is it?
Speaker 3: I think well, I called it tampon socks, and they
Speaker 3: just seem girly. But I love you, baby, but I
Speaker 3: think it's they just look like, you know, they're barely
Speaker 3: their socks.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 2: I did not know that. I just am not a
Speaker 2: sock wear but I do. I do. Like I don't
Speaker 2: like socks on my carpet upstairs. Now that is something to.
Speaker 4: Take my socks off.
Speaker 2: I really would like every shoes on carpet shoes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: unlike the upstairs and it's white.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just left mine downstairs.
Speaker 2: Thank Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1: But if you were having a party, I feel like
Speaker 1: you wouldn't make everyone take their shoes off.
Speaker 2: I never, but if you as I'm wearing, shoes are
Speaker 2: on my own house, yeah, and I wouldn't come up
Speaker 2: stairs with heels on, you know, like I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: on your carpet upstairs in the play room. Exactly. I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 5: I love her.
Speaker 2: The party's not even up here. Why are you down?
Speaker 3: There's like a party, and then Christians is hanging up
Speaker 3: here in the podcast room by yourself.
Speaker 2: That's actually.
Speaker 3: Oh man, okay, well let's stop talking about feet.
Speaker 2: But I started it, It's okay.
Speaker 3: We we had to go somewhere with it. Well, and
Speaker 3: it turned a little better on this side. So we
Speaker 3: have a friend, a dear friend coming on today's podcast
Speaker 3: names Kelly Rizzo. And I actually met Kelly through Bob,
Speaker 3: her husband, her late husband, Bob Saggett. He came on
Speaker 3: Wind Down God. It was a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: and more than a couple of years ago, it was
Speaker 3: when I was with Mike and he just talked about
Speaker 3: her the entire time and was so sweet and just
Speaker 3: said the nicest things about her. So as a woman,
Speaker 3: if I heard or if like, I would want to
Speaker 3: know it's just a nice thing to be, like, Hey,
Speaker 3: your husband was talking just amazing things about you and
Speaker 3: how beautiful and special you are. So I DMed her
Speaker 3: and was just like, hey, girl, I had Bob on today.
Speaker 3: I just want you to know how much you know
Speaker 3: all the goodness and stuff that he said. And she's
Speaker 3: like oh, And then we became great friends. And then
Speaker 3: I introduced y'all. She had interviewed Preston before, right, So
Speaker 3: the reintroduction was welcomed.
Speaker 2: Actually yep. And then yeah, she's a sweet huven. She
Speaker 2: was a host.
Speaker 3: She does a bunch of stuff in the cooking world,
Speaker 3: and she has obviously since lost her husband Bob, and
Speaker 3: now she's on that TV show where she enlists as
Speaker 3: essentially like a Special Forces.
Speaker 1: Special Forces or Seals It Seals or Marines Maries.
Speaker 2: It's a really bad ass.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, they're both bad ass.
Speaker 2: It's insane. I auditioned, not auditioned. I got asked to
Speaker 2: do the show, and I was going to do it
Speaker 2: two years ago.
Speaker 4: I mean like you were almost flying there going to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was weeks away from flying there, and
Speaker 3: I had the mental I had to meet You have
Speaker 3: to meet with a psychiatristschiatrists, psychiatrist before to see like
Speaker 3: if you're mentally able.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not able.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Jana, keep it locked up in your psychiatry meeting.
Speaker 2: I know, he's like asking all these questions. He's like,
Speaker 2: all right, so if you were underwater and you know,
Speaker 2: you had bricks on you, Like, how would you feel.
Speaker 3: I'm like, like I'm going to die. I'd have a
Speaker 3: panic attack.
Speaker 2: What were you supposed to say calm, cool, collected.
Speaker 3: I think they're just trying to see, like what for
Speaker 3: you from a zero to ten, like how do you
Speaker 3: feel in your chest right now? And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: having a panic attack. Walk into my closet to get
Speaker 3: my exanax. But I ended up saying no to the show.
Speaker 3: And so because it was just after like a you know,
Speaker 3: I needed I needed to. I told Kat, I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I pulled out of the show
Speaker 3: and said I have to go heal and not go
Speaker 3: What did I say? I said, I have to go
Speaker 3: heal myself, not go torture myself. Yeah, because it was
Speaker 3: going to I mean that's a show. It would have
Speaker 3: been torture.
Speaker 2: You were already living underwater with bricks essentially, and I
Speaker 2: needed to like, yeah, heal it. But I would actually
Speaker 2: love to do it now.
Speaker 1: I think you'd be amazing at it. I think terrible,
Speaker 1: but I think you would be amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Catherine was the biggest supporter.
Speaker 3: She's like, I think you do so good, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I need to do it to be like I look
Speaker 3: that I did because I'm terrified of heights and this
Speaker 3: that and the other and so it would really push
Speaker 3: me to the limits. But I don't I could not
Speaker 3: have done it done, I could.
Speaker 2: Not ever do it. Really.
Speaker 3: Why scared of everything? Well, but I think that's the
Speaker 3: whole point. Yeah, but I don't want to be unscared
Speaker 3: of everything. Well, I feel it's the difference. I don't
Speaker 3: need to face the fear of You're very.
Speaker 1: Good at like wanting to face your fears, and like
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm afraid of that.
Speaker 4: I'm good you know, really you too?
Speaker 2: Well, Like my hands are sweating with just thinking of
Speaker 2: the bridge scene.
Speaker 4: That stuff would it make me as nervous.
Speaker 1: I could probably do that stuff enough, but like mentally,
Speaker 1: I don't think I could do like the screaming at
Speaker 1: me the whole time, like that stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't that that to me. I don't know that
Speaker 4: I could see.
Speaker 2: And I'm like that's totally fine, And I don't put
Speaker 2: me in not getting sleep, like being freezing, Like I
Speaker 2: think i'd be a woos when it comes.
Speaker 4: To that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I just don't see think you would.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm tough enough for that, for sure.
Speaker 4: I competitive, I'm competitive, but.
Speaker 2: I just feel like you're sep and I'm shocked. Not
Speaker 2: in that way. No one is shocked by the way
Speaker 2: that I could. Yeah, you could do it. Totally comfortable
Speaker 2: with that. But I just want to now that not
Speaker 2: one person was like, gosh, Christ and you don't think
Speaker 2: you could get right in there? No, okay, it's not.
Speaker 3: I think it'd be really good for you. Oh, like
Speaker 3: you know what I think we should do for me.
Speaker 3: I think we should do like a a ropes course.
Speaker 2: Oh that's terrifying.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm literally my hands are sweaty.
Speaker 3: I did want it on site that I wrote about
Speaker 3: my book, but that it's it was it's the heights thing,
Speaker 3: and that was only fifty feet.
Speaker 5: Hey.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine going to the top of a freaking
Speaker 3: water fall whatever and walking in.
Speaker 2: A little tight rope oof these plumbing into your death?
Speaker 2: How did I die? That's a thing too. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I feel like i'd go into shock.
Speaker 4: Hey, I am attached.
Speaker 1: I mean you've got a harness, right, obviously, yes, you
Speaker 1: would have a hardness.
Speaker 2: But I want to can I circle back on the book?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you're going to sign books? Where?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where am I going?
Speaker 2: Can we come? Yeah? Can we Yeah, I got in
Speaker 2: Nashville on October twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, I know, I got excited.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd love for you to come. So it's like,
Speaker 2: I really am excited to see you sign your books.
Speaker 2: It makes me emotional. Oh, I know it's a big deal.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to New Jersey to do it, but
Speaker 2: I'd love to go to Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: I would appreciate that. That'd be fun. Okay, great, you
Speaker 3: should do a little thing'd Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, I just wasn't sure if you're like no,
Speaker 2: that's one of the you know, sometimes i'd be sweet,
Speaker 2: like those things are like I'd rather not whatever.
Speaker 3: We just show up and we're like, Janna Kreamer sign
Speaker 3: my book and my baby, I would do it. Will you,
Speaker 3: Jessica Simpson black out? You don't want to know, but
Speaker 3: I will have you sign my book.
Speaker 2: Right, you're in it, so were you? Cat's goot the
Speaker 2: nervous emoji face. Nervous Kelly Sarah. Let's take a break
Speaker 2: and let's get her on. Hi. Hi, Kelly, Welcome, Kelly Rizzoto.
Speaker 2: Wind down.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is the most exciting thing that's
Speaker 5: happened in a long time to me. I'm so excited
Speaker 5: to be talking to you, ladies. It's like my friends, but.
Speaker 2: Like your friends, your friend. No, like I kind of
Speaker 2: just want to stare at you. It's like I don't
Speaker 2: even really have much to say, just want to talk
Speaker 2: about how pretty you are and stare at you.
Speaker 5: Well, that is very very sweet. I miss you, Kristin, Janna,
Speaker 5: I mean you guys. At least I got to see
Speaker 5: you recently.
Speaker 3: Yes, we were we were all went to I'm sorry, Kristin,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah you weren't there.
Speaker 2: I take your place.
Speaker 3: We were just recently at Craigs in Los Angeles, and
Speaker 3: it was a great time. It was fun to catch
Speaker 3: up because there was a lot that has changed and
Speaker 3: in your life.
Speaker 2: Too, Kelly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lodge and it's you know, even just kind
Speaker 3: of you know, going through a breakdown and talking about
Speaker 3: how I met Bob and how I met you through
Speaker 3: Bob and I just there's just so much to talk about.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't even know where to start
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, because I'm sure it's been it's how many
Speaker 3: it's been over a year now since we lost b up,
Speaker 3: since you lost Ben almost.
Speaker 5: Like, we like, but you twenty one months?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 5: Wow, that's isn't that crazy? But I do love the
Speaker 5: story of how you and I met because obviously we
Speaker 5: have all these mutual friends. I mean, like krist and
Speaker 5: I had met you years before, and Julie obviously was
Speaker 5: a good friend. And it was so interesting because for
Speaker 5: people who don't know, Bob was on your podcast and
Speaker 5: I guess he was saying very lovely things about his wife,
Speaker 5: and you reached out to me on Instagram, which is
Speaker 5: just so rare for like woman to do this to
Speaker 5: another woman. It shouldn't be this rare, but it is
Speaker 5: this rare that you reached out to me, and you said,
Speaker 5: I just want you to know I just had your
Speaker 5: husband on my podcast and he was just saying the
Speaker 5: most wonderful things about you and just singing your praises
Speaker 5: and like from one woman to another, I just want
Speaker 5: you to know that. And it was just so touching
Speaker 5: and I'm like, wow, like Janna's really nice, Like she's
Speaker 5: so sweet, you know. And then we realized we had
Speaker 5: so many mutual friends, and then we just you know,
Speaker 5: hit it off, and then we became friends even separately from.
Speaker 3: Bob, Right, Yeah, I mean, where do we start with you,
Speaker 3: Kelly Rithough.
Speaker 1: I mean, I asked you like a million questions about
Speaker 1: the show that you're on last time I saw you.
Speaker 1: But I still have like a million questions about the.
Speaker 5: Show, how that it's been airing. I you know, there's
Speaker 5: so much more to talk about, and I'm happy to
Speaker 5: answer all your questions.
Speaker 1: Gosh, well, first of all, how did you not phrase
Speaker 1: to death every photo I see everybody just looks so cold?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm a person like I lived in
Speaker 5: Chicago my whole life, and everyone's like, oh, so that
Speaker 5: means you'd be used to the cold. No, That's why
Speaker 5: I moved from Chicago after almost four decades is because
Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't I can't handle it, and that's
Speaker 5: why I moved to la And so I thought full disclosure.
Speaker 5: When my agent told me about this, she's like, it's
Speaker 5: in Australia, and I'm like, oh my god, Australia. I
Speaker 5: get to go to Australia. Sweet. And then like two
Speaker 5: days later she's like, wait, no, it's in New Zealand
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, New Zealand's probably still pretty warm.
Speaker 5: I know it's winter there, but it can't be that bad, right,
Speaker 5: And then I found out that this is the winter
Speaker 5: version of last season, which was in the summer in
Speaker 5: the desert in Jordan. And so when I found out,
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, but like what's winter? Like what do
Speaker 5: they really mean? And then I looked it up and
Speaker 5: they're like, oh, it's thirty five degrees, which is cold,
Speaker 5: but still not as cold as Chicago winters. So it
Speaker 5: was bad, but it wasn't as bad as like it
Speaker 5: could have been, Like I was picturing snow constantly. There
Speaker 5: was a lot of snow, but like constant snowing and
Speaker 5: twenty degree temperatures, but it wasn't that bad. We had
Speaker 5: some days where it was sunny in the forties. So
Speaker 5: how long is.
Speaker 2: The filming in total? Then when you're gone for this?
Speaker 5: So I was there for eight days before we started
Speaker 5: filming because they had to like get us all there
Speaker 5: and quarantine us separately because the cast wasn't supposed to
Speaker 5: know who the other cast members were, so we were
Speaker 5: all kept separate and like hidden and locked away for
Speaker 5: some people got there like the day before, but I
Speaker 5: got there eight days before. So I was lucky that
Speaker 5: I could acclimate to the time change to the weather.
Speaker 5: I got to train every day, meaning aka run out
Speaker 5: of treadmill in combat boots. And then the total filming
Speaker 5: was eight days max. So obviously not everyone made it
Speaker 5: eight days. I mean people were like, oh, we're there
Speaker 5: weeks and weeks. I was like, no, the filming was
Speaker 5: eight days max. So some people were there from you know,
Speaker 5: one day to eight days.
Speaker 2: And do you get to know what you're doing when
Speaker 2: you wake up that morning or no?
Speaker 5: They find out they purposely keep you completely in the
Speaker 5: dark the entire time. So not only do you not
Speaker 5: know what you're doing that day, you don't know what
Speaker 5: you're doing ten minutes before. I was in my head,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, we're going to get like itineraries for
Speaker 5: the entire or each day. It's like no, No, you
Speaker 5: don't know what you're doing. You don't know what the
Speaker 5: challenge is until you get there, meaning they pretty much
Speaker 5: every day is like an abduction. So they like the
Speaker 5: first day is literally an abduction, and each day for
Speaker 5: the challenges, they just put you in one of these
Speaker 5: crazy land rover vehicles and they whisk you away to
Speaker 5: you know, every location was at least an hour away,
Speaker 5: so you're being driven on like icy mountain roads, like
Speaker 5: windy mountain roads with a sheer cliff, like a five
Speaker 5: hundred foot drop with no guardrails, and you're at the
Speaker 5: mercy of these drivers, Like the challenges were much less
Speaker 5: scary to me than the actual transportation to get there.
Speaker 2: And you've already signed your life away at this point, right, Actually,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh sorry, Kelly Rizzo, like we're not Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not our fault if you don't make it.
Speaker 5: There was one day I tried to complain about it.
Speaker 5: I was like, I do not feel safe in these cars,
Speaker 5: and they're like, yeah, we don't care. Yeah, Like I'm like,
Speaker 5: you can throw me out of a helicopter. I trust
Speaker 5: your safety teams. I just don't trust a random driver,
Speaker 5: Like who is this guy? Who's this guy that has
Speaker 5: our lives in his hands? You know? So anyway, we
Speaker 5: didn't know what we were doing, like even the entire
Speaker 5: drive there and then the drivers and there's always like
Speaker 5: a producer in the cartoon, like they weren't allowed to
Speaker 5: talk to us at all. Like if we're like, hey,
Speaker 5: how long is this drive.
Speaker 2: They're like so strange.
Speaker 3: It was okay, let me tell you that that'd be
Speaker 3: my biggest challenge because I'd be like, I'd want to
Speaker 3: be a friend, you know what I mean, I'd be like, no,
Speaker 3: like I would just be they actually, and that'd be
Speaker 3: my like because it's like anytime I ever meet anyone.
Speaker 3: When I was in England, like one of the guards,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, because.
Speaker 2: They can't, I can't.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I can't do that because now
Speaker 3: I want to be obviously respectful. But there was this
Speaker 3: this is so silly, but there was a waiter at
Speaker 3: a restaurant third day and he just looked really just
Speaker 3: was not being like friendly and was just kind of cold.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to get that man to smile.
Speaker 3: So that was like my mission at dinner was to
Speaker 3: be like, did you get I did, and then he
Speaker 3: wouldn't stop talking. So then I was like, but anyways, wait, sorry,
Speaker 3: we're gonna say.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you so so because it's been
Speaker 2: a heavy twenty one months in your world, I mean
Speaker 2: a very uns we didn't you didn't expect to lose
Speaker 2: your husband. We can talk more about him as much
Speaker 2: as you want to, because he was a lovely, wonderful
Speaker 2: angel of a human.
Speaker 5: You know, I love talking about Bob.
Speaker 2: I know the world does. Actually, so that might because
Speaker 2: that makes.
Speaker 5: Me so happy that like he I mean, it's been
Speaker 5: barely two years, but everyone's still loving talking about him,
Speaker 5: and I just hope that endures forever. And obviously I'm
Speaker 5: going to do my part in that so well, I
Speaker 5: think we.
Speaker 2: All kind of waited for, Like, when you lose someone
Speaker 2: like Bob, you suspect that someone as successful as him,
Speaker 2: as famous as he was, as brilliant and funny as
Speaker 2: he was, that we would hear some like we would
Speaker 2: hear at some point a bad story. There's no bad
Speaker 2: Bob stories. Like That's why when I shared with you
Speaker 2: that Bob was a borrowed human, I just don't even
Speaker 2: believe that, Like, you know, I feel like we were
Speaker 2: just so gift to to even have him. But before
Speaker 2: we go to and two, Bob how it relates to
Speaker 2: this show is what I wanted to get to. So,
Speaker 2: what is the thing that you learned most about yourself
Speaker 2: and doing the show? Because you're on the heels of
Speaker 2: the probably I would assume maybe the deepest grief that
Speaker 2: you've experienced in your life course, and then you are
Speaker 2: on the cliff right mentally probably and physically in a
Speaker 2: car with a driver you don't trust, Like, tell me
Speaker 2: what you learned or maybe all the things you learned
Speaker 2: doing this show, this kind of show, because it's a
Speaker 2: mentally tough show coming off of a very mentally and
Speaker 2: heart heavy season. For you.
Speaker 5: Well, I had been told, and I mean you guys
Speaker 5: also as my friends were part of the people telling
Speaker 5: me this regularly, that you know, you're so strong, you're
Speaker 5: so strong, you're so strong, and when you're in it
Speaker 5: both I know that you guys have heard this too.
Speaker 5: You know, when you're going through something and people are
Speaker 5: telling you you're strong, you don't really see it because
Speaker 5: you feel like you're just a puddle of a person,
Speaker 5: Like you don't know that you're strong. But when everyone
Speaker 5: keeps telling you that, you're like, maybe there's something to this,
Speaker 5: And there's no better place to put that to the
Speaker 5: test than when you are completely stripped down of every
Speaker 5: single thing, every creature, comfort you're used to, every type
Speaker 5: of you know, being around your family, your friends, being
Speaker 5: in a harsh environment, I mean, nothing's going to kind
Speaker 5: of break you down more than that, and especially being
Speaker 5: yelled at constantly by Navy Seals and British special Forces
Speaker 5: and they're very scary British voices that nothing's going to
Speaker 5: test your strength more than that, and I'm like, how
Speaker 5: can I not take this opportunity to really find out,
Speaker 5: like at the core, how much strength there really is.
Speaker 5: And you know, it was a very interesting opportunity because
Speaker 5: on a daily basis, you're just really tested. And I
Speaker 5: remember the first time I was realizing when I was
Speaker 5: there was the very first day at our first challenge.
Speaker 5: It was really cold that day and it was raining
Speaker 5: and we were standing for hours and hours and we
Speaker 5: hadn't eaten all day. We're all starving and freezing and
Speaker 5: very uncomfortable, like you can't just like you know, in
Speaker 5: any situation, you're like, Okay, I'm just going to sit
Speaker 5: on the floor for a few minutes, Like no, you
Speaker 5: can't do that because you're in the military now, so
Speaker 5: you have to stand at attention for five hours straight
Speaker 5: and not eat and you're freezing, And every bone in
Speaker 5: my body was wanting to revert to my typical self
Speaker 5: of complaining and being like, oh oh my god, this sucks,
Speaker 5: like I'm cold and I want to sit down, but
Speaker 5: I didn't do that. I'm like, no, Kelly, You're going
Speaker 5: to dig deep and you're going to find some strength
Speaker 5: right now, and you are going to just calm down
Speaker 5: and relax and be in this moment. And I fought
Speaker 5: everything in my being that would typically complain and be
Speaker 5: uncomfortable and be upset, and I got through. And then afterwards,
Speaker 5: even though it was something as minor as being hungry
Speaker 5: for five hours, afterwards, I was like, oh, wow, Okay,
Speaker 5: I got through that. I could do that, Like what
Speaker 5: else can I do? And then every challenge that some
Speaker 5: of these things are really freaking scary, like doing a
Speaker 5: back dive off a thirty foot high platform off a boat,
Speaker 5: and to pitch black water in the middle of the
Speaker 5: night in a frozen lake in New Zealand. You know,
Speaker 5: every part of your body is like you don't do this,
Speaker 5: this is dangerous, but then you just do it. And
Speaker 5: then afterwards you just had this immense sense of pride
Speaker 5: and you're like, all right, if I could get through
Speaker 5: what I went through the past year and a half
Speaker 5: and then get through these challenges you know on this
Speaker 5: crazy show that I'm doing all right, maybe there is
Speaker 5: something to me being strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, all of it sounds so terrifying to me.
Speaker 3: You had said at dinner the other night that you
Speaker 3: guys all room together, you didn't shower, you were on
Speaker 3: cots in the same room. Now, we've all had roommates before,
Speaker 3: and there's probably that one roommate that sticks out to
Speaker 3: all of us that we might have just been like,
Speaker 3: if given the opportunity, I wouldn't ring with you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So is there someone that you were like kind of
Speaker 3: rubbed the wrong way rooming with it or just as
Speaker 3: in the cast, as general in general when doing missions?
Speaker 3: And then who is your favorite?
Speaker 5: Good question? Well, there's really no one because I'm you know,
Speaker 5: I'm probably.
Speaker 2: Don't give me the political killing answer.
Speaker 5: Give you the down dirty. So here's the scoop. So, I,
Speaker 5: being you know, not the most dramatic person, I'm probably
Speaker 5: like the least exciting to have on a reality show
Speaker 5: like where I just wanted to because you're so you're
Speaker 5: scared shitless of these the ds, you know, the directing staff.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to like slip through the cracks and
Speaker 5: like go as unnoticed as possible because I don't want
Speaker 5: to be called out to, you know, I just didn't
Speaker 5: want to be on their radar. I wanted to like
Speaker 5: slip through the cracks. So even when we're in the
Speaker 5: bunk house and in our barracks, you know, I don't
Speaker 5: want to draw too much attention to myself because because
Speaker 5: there's cameras on you twenty four hours at eight even
Speaker 5: at nighttime, there's infrared cameras on you while you're sleeping.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, Okay, I don't want to raise any
Speaker 5: red flags here. But it is very interesting sleeping in
Speaker 5: a room with you know, fourteen people total in the
Speaker 5: and it's not like your cots are ten feet apart,
Speaker 5: you're about eighteen inches apart, so you're lined up one
Speaker 5: next to another. I was across from Jack Osborne, so
Speaker 5: like every morning when we'd wake up, like he and
Speaker 5: I would wake up and like be like hi, like
Speaker 5: so we were the first and next to me was
Speaker 5: des Bryant, and then across from me is Tara Reid
Speaker 5: now or I mean next to Jack was Tara. So
Speaker 5: Tara was the one, you know, and she wasn't there
Speaker 5: very long. You already see her go home in episode two,
Speaker 5: so she was only there one night, but that one
Speaker 5: night was very very interesting. So overall, I got along
Speaker 5: with everybody. I did not get along with Tara, but
Speaker 5: she was probably the one that you know, was the
Speaker 5: most And if you saw the first episode especially, you
Speaker 5: saw that she was having a very difficult time. She's
Speaker 5: just such a slight, tiny human and so she couldn't physically,
Speaker 5: she just could not keep up. And that's not even
Speaker 5: me being mean about it, like she just physically she's
Speaker 5: so so tiny and frail that she couldn't carry the bat,
Speaker 5: Like she couldn't do it, and you know, so it
Speaker 5: was a lot to even get her up and moving,
Speaker 5: and you know, so everyone was like kind of like,
Speaker 5: all right, Tara, like we need to get you up
Speaker 5: with because we can't be held back. And at night,
Speaker 5: she was snoring the loudest, so he kept everyone awake.
Speaker 5: I can snoring, yeah, Tom Sandoval, he snored a lot too.
Speaker 5: But that was one of the things I was most
Speaker 5: afraid of, was the sleeping because I'm not you know, I.
Speaker 3: Need a sound machine. Like how do you do Like
Speaker 3: do they give you ear plugs? Like can you bring
Speaker 3: ear plugs?
Speaker 5: I tried. They don't let anything, and so I didn't
Speaker 5: get my eyemasked. I would ear plugs, sound machine.
Speaker 3: I would I would, I would calm the skate air
Speaker 3: plugs in places to get air.
Speaker 2: Plugging something else.
Speaker 5: Jack Osborne gave me a chunk of a paper towel
Speaker 5: and he was like, here, shove this in your ear.
Speaker 5: So I literally took like not soft paper towels, like
Speaker 5: you know, like industrial paper towels, and I took off
Speaker 5: little bits and I shoved them in my ears when
Speaker 5: I went to sleep. We didn't have any toilet tries
Speaker 5: so so no shampoo, no condition no combs, no brushes.
Speaker 5: The only thing we were allowed was deodorant and toothbrush
Speaker 5: and toothpaste. That's it. So I had to comb my
Speaker 5: hair with a metal fork.
Speaker 2: Oh, I a dingle hopper.
Speaker 5: It was a dingle hopper, I was. I was definitely
Speaker 5: used the dingle hopper reference. I you know, I didn't
Speaker 5: shower the entire time I was there, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that there are only two people that shower
Speaker 5: that I know of while I was there, which was
Speaker 5: Tyler Cameron and Savannah Pursley were the only people who
Speaker 5: took one shower. And it was like a big deal.
Speaker 2: How can you shower? Are you allowed to shower?
Speaker 5: They have a shower, but you have to like fill
Speaker 5: up this water tank with water from this like drop thing,
Speaker 5: and then it's not it was either like freezing cold
Speaker 5: or boiling hot. And then you had to walk outdoors
Speaker 5: from the shower all the way to the bar.
Speaker 2: Shower don't care.
Speaker 5: I was doing pretty too much of a process, and
Speaker 5: I was like, I'll just be dirty. I don't care
Speaker 5: like I was. I mean, I was jumping in frozen
Speaker 5: ponds every day, so I was like, I guess that's
Speaker 5: my shower.
Speaker 4: And a culture awful would rather just be dirty.
Speaker 3: So Okay, excited to continue to watch you on the show.
Speaker 3: It's fun to see you on there, and I'm just
Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: I mean, can you guys believe it that I did this?
Speaker 3: Now? I believe that No, But I'm excited to keep
Speaker 3: watching see your journey. Could we go back to Bob
Speaker 3: for a second, of course, what was the thing? And
Speaker 3: we kind of know the story how at first you
Speaker 3: were like, I don't really want to date him? Do
Speaker 3: you want to tell that story? And then what was
Speaker 3: the thing that made you go, Okay, he is the one?
Speaker 5: So he had found me? Well, you know the real
Speaker 5: full story that I haven't really told publicly is that
Speaker 5: it was a dating app that he first saw me on,
Speaker 5: but we didn't connect on the dating app, so we
Speaker 5: or he saw me on Riyah but then reached out
Speaker 5: to me on Instagram. But he had reached out to
Speaker 5: a mutual friend first in Chicago who's also in Chicago
Speaker 5: media and just maybe assumed we knew each other, and
Speaker 5: so he reached out to me. He was like, do
Speaker 5: you know this Kelly Rizo girl? And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I do, And Bob goes, is she a bitch? And
Speaker 5: he's like, no, I heard she's pretty nice actually, and
Speaker 5: he's like, okay, I kind of want to message her
Speaker 5: on Instagram? Can you let her know I'm sending her
Speaker 5: a DM. So he got a message to me that
Speaker 5: Bob was going to message me, and I was like, ugh,
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm sagat, like that's weird.
Speaker 2: Danny Tanner.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, Tanner, that's so weird. I'm like, eh,
Speaker 5: I'm like he's too old for me. It wasn't really
Speaker 5: my type, but I'm like, this is too intriguing because
Speaker 5: of who he was, and I was like, maybe we
Speaker 5: could like be friends. So we just started talking on
Speaker 5: Snapchat first, his Snapchat name was bobster.
Speaker 3: Clawat I can't snapchat.
Speaker 5: I was on Snapchat and we started talking in there
Speaker 5: and then like on Instagram, and then I came to
Speaker 5: LA and we hung out a few times and he
Speaker 5: was definitely very interested, and at first I was fighting it.
Speaker 5: But then I'm like, oh my god, Like this guy's
Speaker 5: like too like how do I not? How do I
Speaker 5: pass this up? Like it's he's too wonderful, he's too interesting,
Speaker 5: he's the most unique human that's probably ever lived, Like
Speaker 5: I can't pass this up. So I was like, guys,
Speaker 5: I think I have a crush on Bob's second, and
Speaker 5: then my friends were at first like that's weird, and
Speaker 5: then everyone's like, wait, he's kind of nice, he's kind
Speaker 5: of cool, Like see where this goes. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 5: I'll give him a chance. And so then right away,
Speaker 5: I mean I would say, not even a month later
Speaker 5: we were like officially dating and then ten months.
Speaker 2: How many you have been?
Speaker 3: How many months after that did you guys get engaged
Speaker 3: and then married?
Speaker 5: So we started dating in like May of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5: I moved to LA in March of twenty seventeen, and
Speaker 5: we got engaged in November of twenty seventeen and then
Speaker 5: married October of twenty eighteen, So it'll be five years,
Speaker 5: or would have been five years this month.
Speaker 3: So you marry the man in your dreams and he's
Speaker 3: you know, obviously your one and the love of your life,
Speaker 3: how do you go about the grieving that and then
Speaker 3: now two years later going how can I how how
Speaker 3: do you then open yourself up again for love when
Speaker 3: that's not something that you ever would have, it's not
Speaker 3: what you wanted, and it's like and he was, he
Speaker 3: was your one?
Speaker 2: So how do you go about that? And you're young, Kelly,
Speaker 2: you're in your forties, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, forty four. Thanks for saying that's young, Kristen.
Speaker 2: I'm young too. We're all.
Speaker 5: Babies are so, you know, Channa, very good question, I
Speaker 5: would say.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 5: And once again because this is you guys, and you
Speaker 5: know your podcast, which I know is very very special,
Speaker 5: Like I'm I'll say things that like I've literally never
Speaker 5: said before Bob, and like my relationship was very unique
Speaker 5: and very special. And Bob, as I said, was one
Speaker 5: of a kind and the only person that will ever
Speaker 5: I mean, there will never be another Bob. But given
Speaker 5: that it didn't mean that, like there we had so
Speaker 5: much in common and our love for each other was
Speaker 5: so so, so strong and so deep, but there were
Speaker 5: you know, our personalities weren't one hundred percent in line.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was you know, we had very different
Speaker 5: lives and very different upbringings and you know, such different
Speaker 5: personalities that what's interesting is now looking forward, is it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: the love that I have with Bob would never be replaced,
Speaker 5: but maybe there's room for somebody that one day can have,
Speaker 5: you know, certain things that maybe I wasn't compatible with Bob.
Speaker 5: I'll have a compatibility in that area with somebody else.
Speaker 5: Now they won't have the things that Bob had, because
Speaker 5: nobody ever will, and that is a place that only
Speaker 5: he will hold forever. But maybe in some of the
Speaker 5: places we weren't very compatible, the new person will be,
Speaker 5: you know, and certain things because you know, Bob and
Speaker 5: I were twenty three years apart, we had very different backgrounds,
Speaker 5: just different outlooks on life.
Speaker 3: And it was a little more sensitive. We won't say who,
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, like so and you
Speaker 3: know it might be a little tougher. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 3: that's very interesting. I mean I know we've had that conversation,
Speaker 3: but I think it's important for people to hear because
Speaker 3: I make up that when someone loses someone someone other
Speaker 3: people might cast well, how can you just move on
Speaker 3: from that person? It's like, not every relationship is this
Speaker 3: perfect thing. And though you guys shared an amazing love
Speaker 3: and you'll always hold that love so near and dear,
Speaker 3: and you know, whenever we're at your place, like Bob
Speaker 3: has his presence still in your home no matter where
Speaker 3: you move, and will always be in your heart. And
Speaker 3: it's still okay for you to find a love like
Speaker 3: you said, like, Okay, what was I maybe missing or
Speaker 3: wanting more from that relationship that you can now find,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe in a new love. And I'm curious too,
Speaker 3: do you feel pressure with the timeline of getting into
Speaker 3: a next relationship? Like do you feel society going, oh,
Speaker 3: that's too fast or how could you move on so fast?
Speaker 3: Like where do you do you feel that pressure from
Speaker 3: society or are you personally feeling that for yourself?
Speaker 5: Well, fortunately I'm in a great position in that. Yes,
Speaker 5: I'm forty four, but I have been married twice, so
Speaker 5: it's not like I'm a woman who's never been married,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, what's that Like I want to
Speaker 5: walk down the aisle and be a bride and have
Speaker 5: all those pictures and you know, like I've been married.
Speaker 5: I I'm not in a rush to get married. I
Speaker 5: don't want kids, you know, I have three incredible step daughters,
Speaker 5: and so I'm not like in a hurry. I'm not
Speaker 5: you know, like my clock's ticking, you know, like I
Speaker 5: need to I need to hurry up and find somebody.
Speaker 5: So fortunately, I'm in a good place with that, with
Speaker 5: the timing aspect, and I've really found that society. I mean, yes,
Speaker 5: they're a little too focused on you know, you know,
Speaker 5: like I'll say, I'll say, you know, I didn't interview
Speaker 5: the other day where I said something like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: open to this, and now it's you know, headlines on
Speaker 5: every outlet is like Kelly Rizzo says she's open to day.
Speaker 5: I'm like, who, it's so weird that that's a thing.
Speaker 5: But I've noticed that there has just been a lot
Speaker 5: of support and there has even me saying that I'm
Speaker 5: open to that. There hasn't been any negative feedback from that.
Speaker 5: But ultimately, all that matters to me is what Bob's
Speaker 5: daughters think and his you know, like family and best
Speaker 5: friends and what my family thinks. That's ultimately the only
Speaker 5: people who matter and whose opinion should matter. And you know,
Speaker 5: I have the blessing from Bob's daughters and I have
Speaker 5: the blessing from his very best friends that you know
Speaker 5: that they would support me moving forward. And I've learned
Speaker 5: to say like moving forward, not moving on, because like
Speaker 5: you're never going to move on from Bob. You move forward,
Speaker 5: and you know, to have somebody that will respect Bob
Speaker 5: and respect the situation and respect what I had and
Speaker 5: that just understand hands it and gets it, and that's
Speaker 5: you know, going to be how I move forward. And
Speaker 5: ultimately just having the support of Bob's girls is all
Speaker 5: that matters to me.
Speaker 3: So that's the timeline of that has always bothered me
Speaker 3: because I do remember us having a conversation one time
Speaker 3: where you were just like, well, that just might be
Speaker 3: a little too soon. It's like, I hate when people
Speaker 3: feel pressure to not have to like date right away.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, if.
Speaker 3: You move on too fast, you didn't care, if you
Speaker 3: take forever, then there's something must be So I'm just like,
Speaker 3: why is there so much pressure on like and I
Speaker 3: even hear you say like, and I love that you know,
Speaker 3: you obviously cared about your stepdaughters and with what they thought.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like, as a friend,
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Kelly, it's what it's also your heart
Speaker 3: and what you think and not just to live your
Speaker 3: life based on what other people want you to do.
Speaker 3: Because if that's the case, if we lived our lives
Speaker 3: based on what other people want us to do or
Speaker 3: the timeline, I would never get married again or I
Speaker 3: wouldn't you know what I mean, Like people would be like, oh,
Speaker 3: you should never do this, and it's like, you don't
Speaker 3: want to live your life based on what other people
Speaker 3: say opinions. Our thoughts are now again I understand your
Speaker 3: reasoning for the stepdaughter and making them comfortable, and also like,
Speaker 3: as your friend, going, well, it's you know what's right.
Speaker 3: You're not a malicious human. You have all the greatest
Speaker 3: intentions in the world, and anyone that loves and knows
Speaker 3: you would back you right.
Speaker 5: No, and you're you're absolutely right. And ultimately, let's say,
Speaker 5: like to put numbers on it, you know, the first
Speaker 5: year it was something that I really couldn't even contemplate.
Speaker 5: And then after a year, which you know, there's a
Speaker 5: little bit of the internal clock of okay, like this
Speaker 5: doesn't wouldn't even feel right before year, and then there's
Speaker 5: like the society clock, which you know, society would kind
Speaker 5: of deem that at least, you know, one year is
Speaker 5: a reasonable amount of time to at least you know,
Speaker 5: if it's two months later, that's a little I mean,
Speaker 5: anyone would say that's a little weird. And then you know,
Speaker 5: ten years later it's like, okay, what's going on here?
Speaker 5: But after a year is when you know, I kind
Speaker 5: of started getting the blessing of people to that and
Speaker 5: once again, you're right that it is ultimately my call.
Speaker 5: And when I asked for this blessing in general, everyone
Speaker 5: was basically saying like, this is up to you, Like,
Speaker 5: of course you have our blessing, but this is up
Speaker 5: to you, you know. So it wasn't like people are like, yes,
Speaker 5: I give you permission, now this is okay, but yeah,
Speaker 5: to me, the year mark was what was most appropriate.
Speaker 5: But then you know, it wasn't really even until like
Speaker 5: a year and a half later that I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: this is something that really is starting to make sense
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 2: Where do you still feel Bob?
Speaker 5: Oh God? Everywhere? I mean, I you know, I'll hear
Speaker 5: jokes of his in my head. I'll hear, you know,
Speaker 5: just like things he would say, advice that he would give,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Any little things like a light flicker or something or less,
Speaker 3: and then symbolic with you, guys that you.
Speaker 5: In the beginning there were maybe more like signs type
Speaker 5: of things that you know, I was never really a
Speaker 5: believer of or super into, but then certain things in
Speaker 5: the beginning were kind of hard to ignore, Like when
Speaker 5: you moved.
Speaker 2: Into that one house, right, there's that thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very very good call. So there was this little
Speaker 5: figurine that Bob had on his nightstand for years. It
Speaker 5: was just like little Wooden. Actually, I've got it right here.
Speaker 5: I'll show you it's literally right here.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 5: So this little guy, Bob had this on his nightstand
Speaker 5: for years and it was really special to him. And
Speaker 5: when I was looking for a new house, when I
Speaker 5: had to move, I found this one house that just
Speaker 5: even the second I walked in, felt very special.
Speaker 2: And it was a beautiful house, great views.
Speaker 5: So glad you guys, come stay. But there was on
Speaker 5: the shelf like near the mantle of the fireplace, there
Speaker 5: was another one of these guys and like, I'd never
Speaker 5: seen one of these before. It's not like a typical thing,
Speaker 5: and there was it was slightly bigger, but it was
Speaker 5: the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Position can see this. It's literally like a wooden like
Speaker 2: I don't even know how.
Speaker 5: To like a little strong man kind of guy.
Speaker 2: But like maybe I would, like, I don't know what.
Speaker 5: There is an a cube bot.
Speaker 2: And again this is very on brand for Bob.
Speaker 5: It was just a little guy on on his nightstand.
Speaker 5: But I mean it wasn't like in a closet. This
Speaker 5: was on his night stand next to his bed. And
Speaker 5: this general my landlord had the same little guy. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, my god, you know, and I'm not a
Speaker 5: huge believer in science, but I'm like, that's really weird.
Speaker 5: What are the odds that he would have the same guy?
Speaker 5: And so I was like, this is the house and
Speaker 5: I literally started crying. I was like, this is the house,
Speaker 5: and I just feel like Bob would support this, and
Speaker 5: he would because I felt really guilty moving even though
Speaker 5: I didn't have a choice, I had to move, but
Speaker 5: I still felt really weird, like leaving behind, you know,
Speaker 5: the house that we shared and the house that was
Speaker 5: so important to him, and so it was a sign
Speaker 5: to me that okay, this is okay. Like because Bob,
Speaker 5: it was almost like him giving his blessing on me
Speaker 5: moving into a new home and finding this new house.
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Speaker 3: What would be your biggest gift to give someone right
Speaker 3: now that is grieving the loss of someone they love.
Speaker 2: What helped you through.
Speaker 5: For me was just when I was able to get
Speaker 5: to a place of just profound gratitude for the time
Speaker 5: that I had with him, And you ladies know that
Speaker 5: that I think I got there pretty quickly, which is
Speaker 5: not to say that it is the easiest thing. And
Speaker 5: I'm sure there are so many people, depending on the
Speaker 5: type of loved one that you lose, that it's very
Speaker 5: hard to get to that place. But with Bob, the
Speaker 5: fact that he had lived sixty five years on this
Speaker 5: planet and truly made the world a better place and
Speaker 5: accomplished so much in his life, and it was like
Speaker 5: so easy to look at his as a life well
Speaker 5: lived and like job well done, and that he truly
Speaker 5: made a mark on this world. It was really easy
Speaker 5: for me to not be like, oh, isn't fair why me?
Speaker 5: You know, how could his life just be cut so short?
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, of course we all wanted him and
Speaker 5: thought he was going to live to be one hundred.
Speaker 5: I mean he very specifically. He always told me, He's like,
Speaker 5: I'm going to outlive you. I'm like, okay, I mean
Speaker 5: for twenty three years apart, So it's probably unlikely. He
Speaker 5: like truly thought, He's like, I'm going to be one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifteen and like you'll be ninety two. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he was very adamant that he was going to outlive me,
Speaker 5: and so, yeah, I thought he was going to have
Speaker 5: many more years. But you know, in terms of typical society,
Speaker 5: sixty five is you know, he still had a you know,
Speaker 5: a good amount of time to make the world a
Speaker 5: better place, raise three beautiful daughters, you know, find somebody
Speaker 5: who really loved him, and live a very special life.
Speaker 5: And so for me, gratitude and just being like, wow,
Speaker 5: how lucky was I that I got to be a
Speaker 5: part of that for the years that I did, instead
Speaker 5: of focusing on it's not fair why me? So I
Speaker 5: know that that's easier said than done, But any way
Speaker 5: that somebody could get to this place of gratitude, you know,
Speaker 5: as soon as possible, like to just feel grateful for
Speaker 5: the time you had is to me that was the
Speaker 5: most helpful thing. That and of course having the most
Speaker 5: incredible support system of friends and family, and you know,
Speaker 5: I mean, like Kristin, I want to I mean, everyone
Speaker 5: was so wonderful, but Kristin, you I can't even. I
Speaker 5: mean I could literally go back and check my text,
Speaker 5: but I think you checked it on me every single
Speaker 5: day for like five months or something. There was not
Speaker 5: a day And it makes me want to cry right
Speaker 5: now because it's good.
Speaker 1: It was just so.
Speaker 5: It was just so I'll never forget as long as
Speaker 5: I live. It was so kind and so thought full,
Speaker 5: and it got to the point where it was no, well,
Speaker 5: I every day, like I would wake up because you know,
Speaker 5: I was in LA and you're in Nashville, so like
Speaker 5: you were ahead of me. Like I would wake up
Speaker 5: to a text remost every day and it made me
Speaker 5: so like comforted to like wake up to that text
Speaker 5: from you, just and see and you did it right?
Speaker 5: And how about this. I'll give a lesson from what
Speaker 5: Kristen did for me, which was very helpful because so
Speaker 5: many people don't really know how to talk to people
Speaker 5: who are grieving and I didn't know and now I
Speaker 5: know at least what was helpful to me and what
Speaker 5: wasn't as helpful. And I hate seeing like annoying. But
Speaker 5: like there's some people who would check in on me
Speaker 5: and like would give me homework to do, like tell
Speaker 5: me how you're feeling today, and I'm like, oh, oh
Speaker 5: my god, they just gave me an assignment. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to I don't want homework right now.
Speaker 5: I don't want homework. But you would just check in
Speaker 5: and you would say something every day like you know,
Speaker 5: I love you, you know, my heart is with you,
Speaker 5: like thinking like and of course you I mean, you
Speaker 5: know you guys know the way Kristen speaks, it's like
Speaker 5: the most profound, lowery beautiful speech that's you know, like
Speaker 5: this ethereal. You know, every time you like you see
Speaker 5: little like cupids and angels around like everything she says.
Speaker 5: But uh, you would just say something that was would
Speaker 5: just like calm my heart every day, and it was
Speaker 5: just I'm so grateful for it because, you know, having
Speaker 5: just such wonderful friends and wonderful family, like to know
Speaker 5: that even when a lot of people like stop checking in,
Speaker 5: that there's still people who even if they're just saying
Speaker 5: like hi, good morning, love you, Like, just things like
Speaker 5: that were so powerful and so helpful.
Speaker 2: Well, part of our friendship, the deeper, I would say,
Speaker 2: part of our friendship came when I actually was going
Speaker 2: through I lost my dad. You and Bob came to
Speaker 2: town we all went to Bob show, but that day
Speaker 2: you and Bob made a point to do like brunch
Speaker 2: with me and Preston. And I remember sitting with Bob
Speaker 2: and thinking like, because Bob had experienced so much loss,
Speaker 2: he was kind of like savvy at grief.
Speaker 5: He was a cross.
Speaker 2: He was a greaf pro, absolute pro. And I had
Speaker 2: lost five people in eleven months. One was my dad.
Speaker 2: I mean, when I had felt like I just got
Speaker 2: the kicked out of me over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: And it was the first time I sat with someone
Speaker 2: who was honest and could laugh with me, which matters
Speaker 2: in my world a lot, like comedic value just matters.
Speaker 2: I mean, Bob mattered, but just to be able to
Speaker 2: laugh through the absolute storm has always mattered to me.
Speaker 2: And I remember us making jokes, making probably inappropriates of
Speaker 2: the town, like we were just laughing. And then he
Speaker 2: was also neither of you checked your phone, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I just had this moment where I was like,
Speaker 2: here's the human piece, Like I mean, the love for
Speaker 2: Danny Tanner started at Dustbuster. I'm OCD and that is
Speaker 2: where my attraction to him came as like just a
Speaker 2: father figure, you know, like TV lost a dad, but
Speaker 2: we lost a friend. But it was that moment where
Speaker 2: I thought like, here's this is the human experience, and
Speaker 2: both of you poured in so well to this really
Speaker 2: horrible time.
Speaker 5: Well horrible, I'm you know now looking back because obviously
Speaker 5: I hadn't lost Bob yet when you were going through that.
Speaker 5: You know, now, looking back, I'm like, oh, I wish
Speaker 5: I would have been there for you the way you
Speaker 5: were there for me.
Speaker 2: No, you can't know until you're in.
Speaker 4: You can't know.
Speaker 5: You can't know. And I remember I had a friend
Speaker 5: and I tell this story a lot because it was
Speaker 5: very impactful on me and something I'll never forget. But
Speaker 5: this friend of mine, Elisha, and my friend Heather. I
Speaker 5: didn't know them very well at the time. I'd only
Speaker 5: maybe met them a couple times each before Bob passed.
Speaker 5: And the day Bob passed, they just showed up at
Speaker 5: my house. I don't even know how they got my address.
Speaker 5: They just showed up at my house.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I had a ton of people over and we were all,
Speaker 5: you know, completely like out of our minds, and they
Speaker 5: just showed up and I was like, Hi, what are
Speaker 5: you doing here? And She's like, just point us to
Speaker 5: the kitchen and they just came in my kitchen, just
Speaker 5: started doing dishes and taking out the garbage and like
Speaker 5: handing out water bottles to people and just like cleaning up.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I would never have known to do
Speaker 5: that to somebody who, like I didn't know well, I
Speaker 5: would never I'm like, I'm not going to intrude on
Speaker 5: their grief party, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 5: don't know them well enough. And looking back, I'm like
Speaker 5: that was the most help because we didn't have anyone
Speaker 5: to do the dishes and take out the garbage and
Speaker 5: do things like that, because we were all completely a mess.
Speaker 5: And looking back, I'm like, little things like that made
Speaker 5: such a difference. Matter. Now, I know that it might
Speaker 5: still be hard for me to do that to somebody
Speaker 5: else who I don't really know, but I know that
Speaker 5: that that's a thing, you know, like that's something you
Speaker 5: can do. You can help people in certain ways that
Speaker 5: you never would have thought of before.
Speaker 2: It just becomes very human. Like that's in grief and
Speaker 2: in loss. It's just not about what you should and shouldn't.
Speaker 2: It's just more so like all of the all of
Speaker 2: the layers and the outer protective things we all do
Speaker 2: to like hold ourselves. It just feels like we just
Speaker 2: lose that to just like well love each other in
Speaker 2: the mess of it. And that is one of the
Speaker 2: lessons I learned from you and from Bob was I
Speaker 2: would always be insecure about the way I would say
Speaker 2: I love you too much to people. I would always
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, people, you know, there's some people
Speaker 2: that are kind of like, oh, I only say that
Speaker 2: to my mom or my best friend or whatever. And
Speaker 2: I always felt like a little insecure about it. And
Speaker 2: I remember leaving that brunch that day and being like,
Speaker 2: I can say I love you a million times if
Speaker 2: I want to. And then when Bob left, like when
Speaker 2: Heaven came to get Bob, I just thought, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just be obnoxious with how much I say I love
Speaker 2: you to people that I really mean it too, you know.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, I just feel like some people
Speaker 2: leave these marks on our world that are just irreplaceable.
Speaker 2: And I think, truly, I can't think of a better
Speaker 2: person to send Bob out of this world than you.
Speaker 2: The way you held yourself, the way you were at
Speaker 2: his funeral, I mean, you were first lady epic of
Speaker 2: like just integrity and poise and just so wonderful the
Speaker 2: way you loved him, the way you loved his people,
Speaker 2: and continue to do that. You should be really really
Speaker 2: proud of the person you are. And it's not lost
Speaker 2: on me that Bob Saget was not the funniest man,
Speaker 2: but also just the intelligent for locking you in because
Speaker 2: he knew what we all see to amen to that.
Speaker 2: So what is what is next for Kelly?
Speaker 5: I mean, first off, I've literally that's the kindest thing ever,
Speaker 5: So thank you, because that's all that's that's really all
Speaker 5: that matters to me, is to you know, carry on
Speaker 5: his legacy and make him proud and make you know,
Speaker 5: make people never forget Bob. And guess what, I had
Speaker 5: the easiest job ever because I don't even have to
Speaker 5: do anything like people, No one's forgetting him. He's not
Speaker 5: going anywhere, so you know, but to still do whatever
Speaker 5: I can do, you know, with his foundation that you know,
Speaker 5: Square German Research Foundation that was so important to him,
Speaker 5: you know, still being involved with that and those cool
Speaker 5: comedy Hawk Cuisine events. You know, his job was to
Speaker 5: book the comedians and so I kind of well that
Speaker 5: was one of his jobs. But so it's like I
Speaker 5: took that job over, which is really easy because what
Speaker 5: comedian now doesn't want to perform at Bob's beat event,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: So, and then you're also doing your cooking stuff too,
Speaker 3: so yeah, where where can people follow you?
Speaker 2: Find you?
Speaker 3: And then what what do we have on the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four? This is what's going to be going on
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 5: Well, Jana, I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, obviously I'm always I'm always in my kitchen.
Speaker 5: Now I'm in a new kitchen and you guys have
Speaker 5: to come visit in my new kitchen making more recipes
Speaker 5: and always cooking. So that's on my Instagram at each
Speaker 5: travel Rock. And then I have a podcast coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Comfort Food with Kelly Rizzo is starting very very very soon.
Speaker 5: This is literally, I think the first time I'm even
Speaker 5: really talking about it, So you guys are first to
Speaker 5: know that will be coming out soon. So that's where
Speaker 5: I'm going to be interviewing, you know, great guests and
Speaker 5: my friends talking about a difficult time that they have
Speaker 5: gone through, whether it's a loss of a loved one
Speaker 5: or a force or a loss of a career, I mean,
Speaker 5: whatever it is, like some sort of some sort of
Speaker 5: difficult time while we're eating my guest's favorite comfort food.
Speaker 5: And so the food is kind of like the through
Speaker 5: line that's gonna.
Speaker 2: Like love it.
Speaker 5: You love that hire episode, So I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 5: So that will be coming out probably within the next
Speaker 5: month or so.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Well, Kelly, we love you.
Speaker 3: You're closing out the show tonight or today for us,
Speaker 3: and we look forward to all things. We'll finish watching
Speaker 3: you on Special Forces and then we'll be looking forward
Speaker 3: to comfort Food podcast and getting to you know, I
Speaker 3: watch her stuff because I love you, but also because
Speaker 3: I'm like, teach me, teach me.
Speaker 2: Your ways in the kitchen. So amazing. Thank you for
Speaker 2: doing what you do. We love you so much.
Speaker 5: I love you so much. Thank you so much for
Speaker 5: having me. Next time you're in town, we'll cook in
Speaker 5: my kitchen together and she could teach us to call
Speaker 5: all you guys with the new babies over there and
Speaker 5: the babies on the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe do you want to come here with your
Speaker 2: margarita shaker?
Speaker 5: You guys just need to throw on well, Janna, a
Speaker 5: couple of months from you you can have a cocktail
Speaker 5: and Kristen I'm sure you could. You could use one, So.
Speaker 4: No more babies for me. I'll drink.
Speaker 2: So much.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 4: I love you, Kelly.
Speaker 2: You see y'all later.
Speaker 4: Bye bye,