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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. It is a Friday. We

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Speaker 1: are love in Chicago. It's the Herd. Wherever you may

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Speaker 1: be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making

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Speaker 1: us part of your day. J Mack, I thought this

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Speaker 1: was the strangest thing I know. You love the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick got a contract extension. Happy for him. I

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Speaker 1: like him. I didn't think he had a great playoff

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Speaker 1: very good year. I think they were very intentional Offensively.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was an upgrade over Darvin Ham offensively.

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Speaker 1: For sure, he had the respect of Lebron James, So

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Speaker 1: I think I thought he had a very good rookie year.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a bad playoff series. But again,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about one that Chris Finch. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: going up against one of the best coaching staffs in

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Speaker 1: the league. So I didn't get it. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: won fifty games, he deserved credit. But they gave him

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Speaker 1: a contract extension, and I thought that was I thought

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Speaker 1: he just signed a contract. It's not like he had

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Speaker 1: a massive market where the entire NBA was like knocking

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Speaker 1: down the door to get JJ Reddick. But he got

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Speaker 1: an extension yesterday after kind of a I wouldn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think even JJ Reddick would acknowledge. I think he

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Speaker 1: would acknowledge it was not a good playoff series for him.

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Speaker 1: Remember that weird experiment where he did not he left

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Speaker 1: his starters in with it the entire second half and

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Speaker 1: they were gassed in the next game. And it had

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Speaker 1: never been done before. So it took a big swing.

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Speaker 1: It backfired, and they gave him an extension. Is that

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Speaker 3: Come on, let's lay off JJ Rady. He's a good guy.

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Speaker 3: He loves chat GPT, which I use a lot. I'm

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Speaker 3: using a lot for NFL gambling the season kun. There

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Speaker 3: is unbelievable info on there, man, JJ Reddick uses it. It's

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Speaker 3: got to be good enough for us, right, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just thought usually how as season ends dictates how

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Speaker 1: ownership in front offices view you. I mean the NBA

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Speaker 1: regular season. Come on, I mean they stole Luca in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. You're like, he would admit kind of a clunker,

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Speaker 1: Like it was kind of a clunker against Minnesota. Took

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Speaker 1: a big swing on a move that had never been done,

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Speaker 1: and the team felt like it was gassed. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe it's new ownership. Obviously they had

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Speaker 1: to give a green light. It tells you they like

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Speaker 1: the new skinny Luca, they like Reddick. Because it seems

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Speaker 1: like my guess on why the Lakers did this, they

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Speaker 1: are doubling down on Luca and JJ Reddick it being

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Speaker 1: the future, not Lebron. They're saying all the right things.

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Speaker 1: Rob Polink Is like, oh, I hope he ends his career.

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Speaker 1: Ownership is sending a signal to Lebron. This is JJ

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Speaker 1: Reddick and Luca's franchise. They're saying the right stuff on Lebron.

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Speaker 1: But what they're doing is Lebron, you're our third pitch.

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Speaker 1: Actions over words, yep. Yeah. And that that's my guess,

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Speaker 1: is that new ownership is just doubling down on don't

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Speaker 1: think for a second We're not gonna send messages. It

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Speaker 1: is a Luca team, and I've told you I think

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Speaker 1: Luca this year ends up averaging over thirty because when

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Speaker 1: he's been in shape, he takes the ball over, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't give it back. And Lebron's gonna be watching a

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Speaker 1: lot of basketball and one end of the floor not

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Speaker 1: not participating. All right, Hey, then have the best week.

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Speaker 1: I got some bad breaks. Undeterred. Here's our blazing five.

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Speaker 1: Let's blaze it up, fired up. It's Collins, Blazon, Fox

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Speaker 1: Vikings versus Steelers. Favorite bet on the board. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take Minnesota minus two and a half. Get the better

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Speaker 1: offensive staff, best better defense, I think right now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I would like Pittsburgh. Minnesota's won eleven

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Speaker 1: They can't run the ball, they can't protect Daron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: underdog team. They'll play like their hair's on fire. But

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the over forty three and a half. I

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Speaker 1: don't get the number. Listen, the Patriots outplayed the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They just kept coughing it up Drake May. In the

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Speaker 1: The problem for them is they don't have a pass rush.

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Speaker 1: a very comfortable Drake May, who's gonna have time at

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Speaker 1: I think it's this. I think we get points in

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Speaker 1: this game. Twenty six twenty three New England wins take

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Speaker 1: the over. Bryce Young last week completed sixty seven percent

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good spot for the Rams. Sean

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Speaker 1: They have the second highest grade by PFF of any

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Speaker 1: They were two for eight on third down. They weren't

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Speaker 1: I like the Raiders. They're a slight favorite. I like

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Geno Smith. Do you know this leads the

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Speaker 1: The bigger story here is we're concentrating on Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: and their defense is allowing six point seven yards of play.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about the fact that the Bears defense

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Speaker 1: is struggling. Opposing quarterbacks are completing seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: Raiders come back home trying to establish some offensive dominance

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Speaker 1: on I do. I think Jenti has a breakout game.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Raiders to win it. Twenty seven

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Speaker 1: time expired. Denver's got the much better defense. Denver's got

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Speaker 1: the better head coach. Denver's got tremendous personnel up front. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram back. This is big. This is big because

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Speaker 1: von Nicks hasn't been great throwing the ball deep this year.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals worst rushing attack in the league, putting more

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Speaker 1: a lot well offensively you see the screen. I think

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Speaker 1: Denver is an undervalued team with a much better roster

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Speaker 1: think Denver controls the game. Bo Nicks, by the way,

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Speaker 1: not great in September last year, finally Clicks thirty twenty.

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Speaker 1: They cover the spread. Take the Denver Broncos so once again,

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Speaker 1: looking at our picks, I like favorites this weekend. Vikings

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Speaker 1: The weather's cleared. I think it's a great spot for

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Speaker 1: the road. I can't go crazy. Bears are probably the

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Speaker 1: Knicks last year was really bad in September. Bow Knicks

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Speaker 1: this year hasn't been good. In September what a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees his worst month as a Saint was September. Why.

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Speaker 1: My theory has always been, Sean Peyton puts a lot

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Speaker 1: four years in New Orleans, starters don't play in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Bow Nicks didn't take a lot of snaps in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and Sean Payton puts a lot on your plate. And

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Speaker 1: I think it takes October, November, and December for Breeze

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's career record in September, Sean Payton's five hundred,

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Speaker 1: do not play well in September, Isn't that crazy? Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton an all time coach, five hundred in September, Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees average in September. Drew Brees one of the best

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Speaker 1: closer to the end, you get a very weak defensive

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Speaker 1: I think they popped this weekend, and here was Sean

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Speaker 4: Just keep firing. You know, he's gonna hit plenty of those.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that's a gift is his off

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Speaker 4: it is when you when you settle into certain plays,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I there are things that are not a

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Speaker 1: coen So then Sean Payton never been a great September coach,

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Speaker 1: which goes against everything Drew Brees all Timer worst month

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Speaker 1: with September. Bo Nick suddenly wish Sean Payton really struggles

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Speaker 1: Here's coaching pro and college football seasons as the Bears

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Speaker 1: head coach. How did that go here in Chicago? You

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Speaker 1: still beloved how to go?

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Speaker 7: You know what, when you're winning, there's there's not a

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Speaker 1: You got the Dolphins of the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I let the Bears in the playoffs and no,

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Speaker 7: it's a great sports time.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's a big Pittsburgh. So I can relate to it good,

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Speaker 7: you know. I mean I think that's why I like me.

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Speaker 7: I smoked cigars, I drink wine, and I got a

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Speaker 7: mustard Chicago. It's Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: So I said this weekend, all, I don't They're not.

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Speaker 1: They have not been a good road organization. They don't

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Speaker 1: Do you have a sense? I don't love their defense

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Speaker 7: Do you I trust him on the road versus the Raiders.

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Speaker 7: I know you don't, but I you know. A couple

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Speaker 7: Uh, and he did not try to escape, which he

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Speaker 2: That's improvement.

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Speaker 7: And then the third thing which I love about Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 7: ran Ricky Williams, I think thirteen times in a.

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Speaker 7: He had a nine and a half play drive, nineteen

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Speaker 7: to me said, you know, Ben Johnson, you let him

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Speaker 7: I mean the defense, as you mentioned, they're just so

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Speaker 7: But the secondary, Jalen Johnson's out. Their two best defensive

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Speaker 7: I think Kevin O'Donnell did wonders for him at Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: But I'll go back way back when he was at USC.

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Speaker 7: And I always looked at draft picks. There's an old

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Speaker 1: And he was twenty one in New York's a big,

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Speaker 2: Yes, you didn't listen what I said.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Talent sets the floor, character sets the ceiling. So

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Speaker 7: his character is outstanding. I mean you listened to him

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Speaker 2: I bet you the guys will enjoy.

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Speaker 7: Playing with him and have him as a teammate.

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Speaker 2: And he's one of those guys you want him on

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Speaker 7: He's gonna make you better. And the Minnesota thing just

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Speaker 1: I always thought my compheny came out was I said,

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Speaker 1: it's Andrew Luck. He's not that good. But Andrew could

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Speaker 1: And you've probably had quarterbacks like that. I think with Sam,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna throw twenty eight times, We're gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Seattle likes to run the ball, yes, and I think.

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Speaker 7: It works with him and play defense, and he talked

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Speaker 2: You're right. I mean he fits into that mold. It's

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Speaker 7: A drop back, you know, Joe Burrow and throw it

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Speaker 1: Not what he is.

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Speaker 7: That's not what he is. They know what he is,

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Speaker 1: You know. I said, I've loved Kyler Murray for years.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's bad in.

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Speaker 1: One score games. He has a terrible record coming from behind,

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Speaker 1: they look for guidance, They look for leadership. If you

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Speaker 2: I feel that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't get the contract dispute. You know,

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Speaker 7: I see some things throw interceptions or something. You wonder

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Speaker 7: I always thought that he would be more of a

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna give him a little bit of help here now,

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Speaker 7: God bless him.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm a pit guy. James Connor pit guy.

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Speaker 7: When he went through his cancer battle, they were sure

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Speaker 7: And how many years has the guy been but he's

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Speaker 2: They haven't stepped up there.

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Speaker 7: You know, Marvin Harrison Junior has been all over the map,

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Speaker 2: The tight end brid I like him.

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Speaker 7: Well, if if you're a tight end, you're leading receiver

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Speaker 1: And some of these other quarterbacks have chiefs Ravens. One

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Speaker 1: said a lot of times, Coach, I just I trust

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Speaker 1: my eyes. Great teams usually have a juice like Seattle. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: You watch Seattle and you're like they got dudes in

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Speaker 1: You watch the Eagles their power game, or you watch Herbert.

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Speaker 1: When I watched Kansas City, I don't see any juice.

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Speaker 7: Eagle Super Bowl when they were behind by ten at

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Speaker 7: halftime and Mahomes was limping, and they came out the

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Speaker 7: second half of what did they do? They ran the

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Speaker 7: ball with Pacheco, remember, and that's how they won the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They ran the football.

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Speaker 7: I thought that that would Andy Reid would get back

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Speaker 7: to that more. You know, when you got a one

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Speaker 7: receivers not in there for whatever reason, one's hurt, Kelsey's

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Speaker 7: you know, up in the age a little bit. What's

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Speaker 7: the easiest thing to do to help your quarterback run

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Speaker 7: the ball? And they just haven't really made a bake

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Speaker 7: in my mind, a big commitment to running the football.

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Speaker 7: I think that may help give them a little bit

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Speaker 7: of juice. I don't know, but it's they're a one

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Speaker 7: sided team right now, a lot like Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: They got a great offense and no defense.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what's going on with that defense. They

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Speaker 7: put up their you know, talent and draft picks and money.

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Speaker 7: I mean, these guys should be a top ten, top

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Speaker 7: half in the league minimum minimum defense, and it's not happening.

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Speaker 7: But at least their offense they can win the ball.

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Speaker 7: If you if you just go to the bend, I

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Speaker 7: would probably go to a bend. But break, don't break

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Speaker 7: defense because you know your.

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Speaker 2: Offense is going to score points.

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Speaker 7: I mean, those guys talk about talent and playmakers. That

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Speaker 7: Baltimore offense is unbelievable, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you do a ton of college football, so you're

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Speaker 1: you're as good as anybody in this big ten building

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Speaker 1: we're sitting in right now. So Oregon Penn State. That's

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Speaker 1: a long way to travel when you were coaching college

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Speaker 1: football and you had to go into a harsh environment.

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Speaker 1: Remember in the NFL, you know, guys are twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. You got thirty year olds. Some of these

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Speaker 1: kids are nineteen twenty one. In college football, I almost

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Speaker 1: always say take the home team. If they're even take

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Speaker 1: the home team. How would you when you went on

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Speaker 1: the road in these big road environments, is there a

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Speaker 1: trick to getting the best from your team?

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Speaker 2: Well, you'd like to have.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, leadership is going to be the key because you

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Speaker 7: can say what you want as a coach, right and

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Speaker 7: you can show them all the movies and read all

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Speaker 7: the books and all that stuff. But when they get

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Speaker 7: out there and the crowd goes, you know, you'd like

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Speaker 7: to have a veteran group on offense, okay, because the

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Speaker 7: noise is going.

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Speaker 2: To be a fact.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And and unfortunately Oregon's going in there, I mean, coach,

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Speaker 7: when they played Northwestern, twelve guys caught passes, seven of

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Speaker 7: them ran the ball. Two freshmen score touchdowns. So Dan Lenning,

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Speaker 7: who does a fabulous job. You got a new starting quarterback,

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Speaker 7: and you've got these young players at most of the

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Speaker 7: positions because you're graduated a lot, and you know, it's

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Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a difficult challenge for

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Speaker 7: him as long as Penn State doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Give up the big play.

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Speaker 7: As long as they don't give up the big Right now,

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Speaker 7: Penn State's leading the nation in sacks. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 7: sorry USC was I'm sorry. Penn State's right behind him though. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Penn State starts four seniors on that defensive line. I mean,

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Speaker 7: they are they are really good, and so they're gonna

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Speaker 7: put a lot of pressure physically on this Oregon offense

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Speaker 7: and quarterback.

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Speaker 1: See how the young guys respond.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Drew Allard.

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Speaker 7: You know, here's an interesting point to think about it

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Speaker 7: because I kind of went through this little bit at

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Speaker 7: Miami with Vinnie Tester, Birdie. Okay, Drew ellerd the quarterback

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Speaker 7: from Penn State. He comes back for another year. Worry

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Speaker 7: would have been drafted. Who knows? In fact, a lot

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Speaker 7: of those players did Singleton Allen the two running back, No,

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Speaker 7: they're backfield, Drew off two. They got three offensive linemen.

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Speaker 7: Two of them are going to be top five picks.

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Speaker 7: I'm first, second, or third from five rounds. My point

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Speaker 7: is I want to see Drew Aller at a quarterback

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Speaker 7: because he comes back and now you are expected to

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Speaker 7: take us and win a Big Ten championship. We're expected

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Speaker 7: to win a national championship, and he's playing to be

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Speaker 7: a first round draft pick. That's a lot on that

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Speaker 7: kid's plate.

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Speaker 1: Now to your point about Oregon, this should be noted

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Speaker 1: Oregon's road games. Dante More is the quarterback for Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Here's the road games he's played in his college career.

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Speaker 1: San Diego State, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona, Northwestern is a

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Speaker 1: whole different ballgame, all different boy with the best defensive

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Speaker 1: line he's ever faced. Yes, so it's a big ask.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about USC. You know, everybody

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Speaker 1: think I said this sort of everybody thinks Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: he just throws the ball. Actually, this SC team, they're

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Speaker 1: a run team. You've seen them, coach.

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Speaker 7: They're fifty five percent run, which shot me until I

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Speaker 7: started doing my prep work. And then I think Joe

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Speaker 7: Platter somebody made the comment when Lincoln Riley was at Oklahoma,

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Speaker 7: they had the they were number one in the nation

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Speaker 7: in yards per rush.

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Speaker 2: So he has run the football. He likes to run a.

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Speaker 7: Lot of it might be quarterback, which they can do

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Speaker 7: enough out there at USC.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of interesting because when I was coaching at USC,

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Speaker 7: I went there, they were coming off probation. I wasn't

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Speaker 7: involved in that.

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Speaker 2: That's one I wasn't involved with Okay.

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Speaker 7: But my point was two years later, we're playing Ohio

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Speaker 7: State and beat him in a Rose Bowl. You know,

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Speaker 7: so this program, they've had a resurgence a lot faster.

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Speaker 7: No one's talking about them.

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Speaker 1: I think their boosters stepped up. Oh like, nobody's talking

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Speaker 1: about them right now, but Jen Cole and the athletic director.

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Speaker 1: They built a three hundred million dollar facility. They're paying

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Speaker 1: Lincoln eighty million, and their boosters came in hot. Their

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Speaker 1: defensive line, they went and bought size.

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Speaker 2: They're big.

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Speaker 7: They're the ones that are leading the country in sacks

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Speaker 7: sixteen sacks. And their offensive line are being talked about

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Speaker 7: for the Joe Moore Award, which is, you know, the

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Speaker 7: best offensive line because they got four of the five

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Speaker 7: guys back.

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Speaker 2: These guys have been in the program.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they they've got them at all levels. They

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Speaker 7: really do got.

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Speaker 2: A nice football team.

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Speaker 1: So I said this earlier. I always thought the Big

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Speaker 1: ten was a little top heavy, and I always thought

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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve had better quarterbacks, more creative coaching, a

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Speaker 1: little more speed. I think the Pac twelve is exactly

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Speaker 1: what the Big ten needed when I and I also

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Speaker 1: think the Big ten weather in style forced USC and

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Speaker 1: Oregon to go buy bigger players of the nil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: I would think the meshing has been perfect.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it had. Think about last year, who was the

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Speaker 7: Big ten champ Oregon?

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Speaker 1: Oregon you know Oregon the speed team.

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Speaker 7: They come in with the speed and they win the

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Speaker 7: Big Ten. There has been a little bit of transition

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Speaker 7: I think with both teams. You know, the style play.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 7: You look at the quarterbacks. I mean, the Big Ten's

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Speaker 7: got some great young new quarterbacks coming up. Yeah, it

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Speaker 7: has meshed well. But I think you know, these fancy

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Speaker 7: uniforms Penn State's guys are wearing.

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Speaker 1: The Black Ten's got better tradition.

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Speaker 2: They don't look.

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Speaker 7: As fast Penn State right now. They're guys. Take them

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Speaker 7: out there and put them on a track. They'll run

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Speaker 7: foot for foot with Oregon. You don't think so.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're your West Coast guy, But I'm telling.

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Speaker 7: You you don't think they do because they got the

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Speaker 7: fancy uniforms and Penn State's got black socks on it

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Speaker 7: their shoes, you know, and they know James Franklin can recruit.

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Speaker 7: They can recruit. They got players that can run.

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Speaker 1: The best backfield in the country is Penn State. Can

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Speaker 1: Washington at Husky Stadium? You've you've coached there. Can they

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Speaker 1: beat Ohio State their quarterback? I have had two people

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Speaker 1: and a former NFL quarterback and a current NFL exec said,

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Speaker 1: Washington's quarterback will be the best quarterback in this game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's here's the storyline for this game. Matt Patricia,

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Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator Ohio State, how I would agree with you.

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Speaker 7: Washington is running for two fifty, They're throwing for two

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Speaker 7: fifty a game, score fifty five points a game. They

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Speaker 7: are getting it and their quarterback. Everybody says, oh, he's

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Speaker 7: a dull threat or a dull threat for run for

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Speaker 7: five yards or dull threat to go ninety He can

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Speaker 7: go ninety yards. Okay, if you don't get him on

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Speaker 7: the grind. This I want to watch is how's Matt

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Speaker 7: Patricia going to handle it? Is he gonna put Caleb

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Speaker 7: Downs on him? You gotta have.

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Speaker 2: Somebody else watching this guy.

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Speaker 1: You have to have a spy on the Husky's quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Or is he gonna use one of the linebackers

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Speaker 7: or drop a lineman.

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Speaker 2: What's he gonna do?

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Speaker 7: But they're gonna have to come up with a different

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Speaker 7: scheme to deal with the quarterback or he can beat himself.

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Speaker 1: We got great college football weekend. Oh I have one

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Speaker 1: of the best Saturdays in a long time. The coach,

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Speaker 1: Dave Lonstadt will have Herd Line next.

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Speaker 1: Who you got Cowherd Easy? Toka Nikoua back home with

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Speaker 1: Stafford Colet secondary pretty average, That's an easy one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with some bad news for the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quinn has just ruled Jaden Daniels out this week.

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Speaker 3: Colin Scary, Terry McLaurin out this week, and wouldn't you

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Speaker 3: know it, Marcus Mariota will face his old team, the Falcons,

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Speaker 3: who are now favored favored against Washington Listen, I tried

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Speaker 3: to take you earlier. This week Falcons were plus three,

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Speaker 3: then it was two, that I was one and a half.

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Speaker 3: Now the Falcons are favored at home. Do you want

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Speaker 3: to readjust you're blazing five?

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I've had no historic success. This is a

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Speaker 1: This is the number one stay away from it game

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Speaker 1: on the board. Texans Titans is another stay away from it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like either of them. I think the bigger

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Speaker 1: issue is Jaden Daniels got banged up last year. Jade

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Speaker 1: and Daniels is bank banged up this year. It was

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Speaker 1: the number one concern coming into the NFL. But he

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Speaker 1: was spindily, he was small. Could he withstand the punishment

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Speaker 1: and the hits? So you know you're if you're quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The ten million dollars chandelier, the insurance policy is the

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Speaker 1: O line, so they got to get good up front

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Speaker 1: because he is all time special. But this is now

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Speaker 1: the second injury.

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Speaker 3: So I think his knee was banged up on a scramble, right,

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Speaker 3: which is why when I earlier was like, why isn't

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray running?

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Speaker 1: People? Like that's why Kyler doesn't want to run?

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Speaker 3: Listen, man, I don't know what to tell you, like

655
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Speaker 3: without Jayden Daniels as a different team, mariotican he could

656
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Speaker 3: be like a fifth starter in Major League Baseball, right,

657
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: fifth starter will throw you in there once you're fine.

658
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Speaker 3: But I don't know going back to him if he

659
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Speaker 3: gets it done this week. I like the Falcons, but

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Speaker 3: I like them Milani. Unfortunately, next Tory Colin is let's

661
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Speaker 3: go to the undefeated Colts. Wow, that game out here

662
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Speaker 3: in La Sunday on Fox is going to be exciting that.

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Speaker 3: The last time they met was twenty twenty three. The

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Speaker 3: Colts were down twenty three and forced overtime before Stafford

665
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Speaker 3: had a game winning Teddy drive. Shane Steichen was on

666
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Speaker 3: the sideline for that game and talked about how just

667
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Speaker 3: how good Matt Stafford is.

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Speaker 8: I think he's one of the best probably to ever

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Speaker 8: do it. And I think he has a physicality about him,

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Speaker 8: like he's tough as it gets. I mean, you see

671
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Speaker 8: him taking shots and he gets up and he ain't

672
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Speaker 8: coming out of the game, and that's respect there. He

673
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Speaker 8: can make all the throws, you know. I think he

674
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Speaker 8: does a great job of seeing it. I mean, like

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Speaker 8: I said, he makes some big plays with his arm

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Speaker 8: and when you got a guy that's done at a

677
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Speaker 8: high love for a long time. He's seen a lot

678
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Speaker 8: of different looks and so getting them in out of

679
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Speaker 8: the right plays is huge.

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Speaker 2: He's been doing that for a long time.

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Speaker 1: He actually missed. He can be not that he's a

682
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Speaker 1: streaky He's a little like an NBA shooter that's always

683
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Speaker 1: pretty good. It's good, but he can get red hot.

684
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Speaker 1: He I thought he missed a couple of open opportunities.

685
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Speaker 1: I also thought Pooka dropped one in the end zone

686
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Speaker 1: that could have sealed the game. So I think that game,

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Speaker 1: you look at that blown loss. The Rams are a

688
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: better team than the Colts. They have a better defense

689
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Speaker 1: on all levels. I mean, the Rams secondary is not great.

690
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Speaker 1: The Colts is worse. And I think this is the

691
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Speaker 1: spot for the Rams. This is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: bets of the weekend. I think the Ram this is

693
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Speaker 1: a really good spot for them. I think Daniel Jones

694
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Speaker 1: has been good. There's three weeks of film the Rams

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Speaker 1: defensive front. It's loud, he's on the road. I think

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones pulls back a little. Is so far that loud?

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Speaker 1: You know that being.

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Speaker 3: Said, let me ask you this, Kelen so we saw

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Speaker 3: last night like Staph Sam Darnold will line up in

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Speaker 3: shotgun right on fourth and one, Kyler Murray's and shotgun

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: You can do so many more things.

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Speaker 3: Out of that roll the pocket. You can't do a

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Speaker 3: lot of that with Stafford. Is his ability to make

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Speaker 3: every throw in the book. Does that balance out his

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Speaker 3: lack of running?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they've got a starbuck, they've got a

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Speaker 1: productive tight end. Usually they've got two star receivers, and

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Speaker 1: so I mean I think I think in the offseason

710
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Speaker 1: and one of the things they did they got Terrence

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Speaker 1: Ferguson from Oregon who hasn't done much. Maybe it's because

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Speaker 1: they're not using as many two tight end sets. My

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Speaker 1: take is I think their offense is more than good

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Speaker 1: enough to win a Super Bowl. Their defense clearly is dominant.

715
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Speaker 1: But I mean again, old schools sit in the pocket works.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff and Matt Stafford won a lot of games

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Speaker 1: last year. I think they're fine. I think I think

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Speaker 1: old school works if you've got a strong run game

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Speaker 1: and good perimeter weapons and the Lions doing the rams do.

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Speaker 3: Last one at Colts DC is lou Amaruno. He is

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Speaker 3: battling the Rams, remember they faced off in the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl Final.

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Speaker 1: Story con is.

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Speaker 3: J J McCarthy, you know, as he's waiting watching Carson

725
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Speaker 3: Wentz step in, Kevin O'Connell is declining to address whether

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Speaker 3: or not JJ will start when he's back. Phil Simms

727
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Speaker 3: broke down why he's concerned about JJ McCarthy, the second

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Speaker 3: year quarterback.

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Speaker 9: What really makes me think is just the throwing part

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Speaker 9: of it.

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Speaker 2: You know. I he's just not throwing the ball well

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Speaker 2: when he was out there. I mean, it's a lot

733
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Speaker 2: of work, and it.

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Speaker 9: Seems like unless he gets to throw it as hard

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Speaker 9: as he can throw, well, that's the only time he

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Speaker 9: somewhat puts it on target, on time and everything like that.

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Speaker 9: I think they got a lot of work to do

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Speaker 9: if they want to turn him into what they call

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Speaker 9: a franchise quarterback, and he's going to need a lot

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Speaker 9: of work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he looks overwhelmed. And I thought I

742
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: thought Bryce Young early in his career, looked overwhelmed. I

743
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Speaker 1: don't think he looks overwhelmed, and I look small. I

744
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: think JJ had one great corner against the Bad Bears

745
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: defense on the back end, but I listen, I was

746
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: told I was, I was set at text in the offseason.

747
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Speaker 1: You were bragging up at the time, you were really

748
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Speaker 1: bragging up. JJ McCarthy. I was, and somebody in the

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Speaker 1: league text me and they said, you got to tell

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Speaker 1: your boy j mac. This is a bigger lift than

751
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: people think. He had lost confidence, he'd been hurt, they

752
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: needed more reps. So I think JJ McCarthy this almost

753
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: feels like, honestly like his rookie year, Like it's just

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00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: he's he's behind the eight ball. I mean, listen, Aaron

755
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: Rodgers innimated this week to the Vikings. We know they

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Speaker 1: wanted to resign Darnold. They like Daniel Jones, not at

757
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: the price. So the Vikings had concerns about this, and

758
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: they're built to win now. So I think the JJ

759
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: mccartny thing. I don't think Vikings fans are surprised by.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you're in Minnesota and talk radio in

761
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: the local columnists, this has been discussed. It's not like

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Speaker 1: I'm unveiling new presence on Christmas like people have been

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: talking about. He is behind for a year and a half.

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Speaker 3: So you know, listen, I know, I get it, Jason.

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Speaker 3: You're going over bar with McCarthy. You know who else

766
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: struggled in their first eight quarters in the NFL. It

767
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: happened last year, and it was your boy bo Nicks,

768
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: who came in with fifty billion college starts.

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Speaker 1: Colin two picks in the opener, two picks in Game two.

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Speaker 3: They started zero to two, and everybody's like bo Nicks.

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Speaker 3: Game three, no touchdowns, but they beat Tampa. Game four,

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Speaker 3: he threw for sixty yards against the Jets. Remember that

773
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Speaker 3: Thursday night football? Oh, Nick, this guy stinks. He ended

774
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Speaker 3: the season. Fine, let's preach some patience with mister McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: But bone Nicks had Sean Peyton's unwavering, one hundred percent support.

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Speaker 1: The messaging from Minnesota has been, well, he's talented, but Sam,

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Speaker 1: you want to sign again. I mean, there's been reports,

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Speaker 1: multiple reports that Kevin O'Connell was interested in other quarterbacks.

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00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, to a point of many would say going

780
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Speaker 1: overboard loves bon Nicks, loves him. He's my guy. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be great, not good. So when you have the

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Speaker 1: full support of an organization publicly like almost overboard, That's

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Speaker 1: what Washington did with Jayden Daniels in his first camp.

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Speaker 1: They're like oh yeah, this guy's unbelievable. So Sean Peyton,

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Speaker 1: full support, Washington, full support, Minnesota, a lot of Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's in fact, there was this quote in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Can we slow down a little on the and this

788
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Speaker 1: is a process. All the messaging has been their concern.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping that.

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Speaker 2: The herd line news.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in Denver, they got Russell Wilson out of

793
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Speaker 1: the building. They wanted Bonix in the building. In Minnesota,

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00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: they've been bringing other guys in the building. It's like

795
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and they did want to resign Sam Donald, Sam Donald

796
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Speaker 1: right now, Carson Wentz right now. You know I said

797
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Speaker 1: this last week. Carson Wentz this second, right now is

798
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Speaker 1: better than JJ McCarthy. Doesn't mean he will be in

799
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: six games or six years, but he is now. And

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Speaker 1: when you're going on the road to Dublin, you better

801
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Speaker 1: bring your best team. So NFL schedule here it is.

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Speaker 1: I actually think in both college football and in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's a favorite weekend. Seattle was the favorite last night.

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Speaker 1: It was a stay away game for me. Minnesota is

805
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Speaker 1: a favorite. I like him, Philly a favorite. I'm trying

806
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Speaker 1: to find a dog I like to win outright?

807
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Speaker 2: Are your giants?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jacksonville could be interesting. Okay, even if Perty starts.

809
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: We don't know if he's going to start. It sounds

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00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: like they're leaning that way. Find me a dog that

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Speaker 1: you like to win outright, well, Jets, I mean the

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Speaker 1: Jets may. If Justin Fields plays, the Jets may be

813
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Speaker 1: the best way.

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Speaker 3: Tampa's a three and oher undefeated dog with at home

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Speaker 3: with Baker.

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Speaker 1: Mason's You're right, that's probably the best dog. That's why

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Speaker 1: I stayed away. I think the Jets, if Fields plays,

818
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Speaker 1: are a live dog in Miami. I know.

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Speaker 3: I think Jets are a dog with fleas Colin to

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Speaker 3: stay away, please.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville San Francisco is interesting. Are brock Pertty and Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones splitting snaps? Mac Jones is dinged up. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound like he's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if the third stringer because the

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Speaker 3: backup a party.

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Speaker 2: They can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer Jmax picks hour three h