WEBVTT - Fire Drill 064: Manic Monday 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.120 There's nothing like this in sports. You don't there is 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.840 no free throw contest to join the Lakers, and it's 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:11.480 not joined the Lakers and sit on the end of 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.840 the bench. It's joined the Lakers, and you have the 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:19.280 same exact chance as everybody else does. Like obviously talent aside. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.759 When you tee it up, you're equal to Rory McIlroy 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:28.400 on Monday, and there's nothing like it in sports. I 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:34.760 got dots my head, can't get John nothing. What I'm 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:42.320 thinking about, can't get him now nothing, think well I'm 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:53.080 thinking about. Hello. This is Alan shipping Nuck back to 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.040 the Fire Drill Podcast, as always, joined by Ryan French 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.280 and Michael Bamberger. It's such a big moment of golf, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.120 we thought we'd bring in a couple of extra voices 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.279 for this very special pod. We have Mattchenella and super 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.479 agent Mac Barnhardt coming in from Idaho where he's been 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.600 snowboarding with the likes of Davis Love. Will get to 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.760 all that soon, but we thought we would start with 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:21.840 Ryan and the Mega Monday Qualifier here in Scottsdale. Ryan's 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.240 coming straight from the golf course. He's all he's all 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.959 jacked up because he lives with this stuff. Ryan. I 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.680 know we lost a few a few players because the 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.920 Monday finishing pebble beats and that slightly damp in your spirits. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.000 But how was this Monday? What are the storylines and 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.640 just bring it to life for our listeners please. Yeah. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.399 I actually think guys, uh, is that it got better 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.160 because the tour players didn't make it. Um. You know 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.480 all of those guys are doing okay, and the three 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.000 stories that got through our unreal Um. I put out 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.360 a tweet, uh, thirty five combined seasons as pros from 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.920 the three guys that have got through, uh, that got 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.400 through today and this is their combined fourth PGA Tour event. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.360 They have four PGA Tour events prior to this, thirty 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.680 five years, thirty five seasons. Andre Metzger has been a 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.720 pro since two thousand and seven and this is his 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.360 second PGA Tour event ever. Uh And it's for a 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.440 twenty million dollar person. I heard today and I don't 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.240 know if it's acurate, but last place is forty three dollars, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:30.639 So making the cut is a game changer for these guys. Um. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.880 I mean it just perfectly sums up uh why I 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.160 love Mondays Brett White five years ago had a brain 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.360 infection and couldn't walk or talk, and Monday qualified for 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.320 one of the most important that one of the biggest 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.359 tour events, the biggest purse ever. UH. Dalton Ward went 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.040 to a junior college and average seventy nine and then 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:59.520 quit and is now playing in at an elevated event. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.680 And Andre Metsicer, although a many tour legend, literally said 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.080 to me today, I said, ah that you know he 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.240 lives in Scottsdale, has an apartment at Scosta with his 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.760 wife and kids. And said, I said, well, at least 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.480 you saved some money on UH on lodging. And he said, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.480 what money. I don't have any money. And so if 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:25.640 those three stories don't make what I cover worthwhile, I 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.600 can't help you. It doesn't get it. It It doesn't get 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.440 any better than that. I don't know what to say. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.680 And I watched all three of the guys, UH sit 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.480 there and wait for scores to come in. Look at 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:40.120 every group, hold their breath. Read how the people are 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:45.400 walking towards scoring because the chance of a lifetime uh, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.920 it's coming their way now. And I've said it a 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.920 million times. If the PGA Tour doesn't lean into this part. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.280 This is the advantage they have. This is what they have, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.200 not only storytelling on the Monday Que level, but all levels. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.960 So I know how we said we're going around the horn. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.200 I just dominated the first three minutes. I apologize and 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.520 that's it, right, Ryan, No no playoff today, that's unusual. Yeah, 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.400 no playoff today. It was great because it was gonna 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.520 get dark and would had to had to uh, I 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.360 had to go into tomorrow. And these guys that haven't 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.119 had the opportunity, as Mac knows, as hard to sleep 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.800 on a on on that when it's staring in in 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.040 the face from not from now until the morning is 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.559 a lot of time to think about how much money 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.800 twenty million dollars is And so I think it's just 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.559 better that it went off like this. Great stories, tons 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.600 of tour guys. I give a lot of respect to 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:44.200 guys like Martin trainer. Uh finished took a flight this 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:51.080 morning and then rushed over Harrison. Andyicott played with Will Bateman, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.920 the actor in the in UH as his pro am partner. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.280 Will Bateman flew him in his private jet to l 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.720 A so he could catch a flight to Phoenix. I mean, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.800 this is Monday que too. This was I couldn't even 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.560 I couldn't keep all the stories away. It's too much 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.960 to cover. You mean Jason Bateman or Will our Net which, yeah, whatever, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.680 both of those guys, they were both on the plane. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.960 That's how I screwed it up. Jason Bateman and Will 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:21.480 Arnette were on the plane. SmartLess. This has become an 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:26.320 episode of smartst Um. I mean, it's true that this 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.520 is the number one advantage of the PGA tour has 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.120 over Say Live is that it's not a closed shop, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.919 and you can't have these exceptionally charming stories. And there's 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.520 still elements of a meritocracy where guys can can barge 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.479 their way into the field and and change your life 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.320 in one great week. And Andre Metzker, You've told me 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.560 many stories about him. He's a Dakotas toward legend. And 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.440 there's one particularly colorful tale. It's time that you you've 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.160 put it out into the wild. Ryan, even sitting on 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.800 this for too many years, what is the most famous story? No, 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.719 I refuse, I refused to write tell this story because 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.599 I'm going to write it. It's eight better in the 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:06.080 written word. He's a legend. He likes to party, and uh, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.520 I love him, and I refuse to tell this story 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.360 without a full understanding of everything that went into it. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.360 And uh, it needs contacts. I don't know why. I 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.800 don't know what context I would learn, but uh, that's 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.760 the that's the tease for my next story. Andre Messer 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.000 and the Dakota Steward. Michael, this is the guy you 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.320 should catting for, by the way, Okay, thank you Ryan, Ryan. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.440 What can a guy make if anything on a Monday night? 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.840 These three guys in particular, can they sign up for 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.520 anything Taylor made or anything else so they'll get him 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:44.440 quick cash come Thursday morning? Uh no, uh no, some 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.840 of these guys have like a little bonus. Uh. Brett 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.960 is a titlist guy, so I would assume he'll he 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.880 gets like three thousand dollars for getting into the event. Um, 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.720 Matt could speak better to you. Know, Brett's story is 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.080 really great. His agent has already sent me a message 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.839 in thanking me. I assume it will resonate with a 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.880 lot of people, and so I assume he can find 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.600 little deals like Mark did, uh to kind of help 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.640 them through the week. Yeah, they get paid now, right, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.680 don't don't don't they get a stipend for playing now 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.880 if you if you're not a member. I mean, I 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.440 know the regular guys get five thousand against and I 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.200 think the other guys they don't get that. Yeah, I 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.520 don't know. I confirmed today that Monday qualifiers do not 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.920 get the five thousand dollars. PGA Tour can't afford the 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.680 extra fifteen thousand dollars. It's gonna break it. Sorry. Yeah, 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.800 the guys that needed the most, Yeah, the guys that 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.600 needed the most, Yeah, they don't get it. Ryan, do 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.920 you think this guy would have rather Monday qualified for 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:58.000 uh John Deere with less purse with fifty fifty best 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.280 players in the world not playing. Um, I mean it's 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.120 quite a jump from Monday qualifying to go on a 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.880 play and against the filled that stacked. I mean it's 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.800 a stacked you know, it's like it's like a player's right, um, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:15.120 and not not just you know, I'm not saying these 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.640 guys shouldn't be there, but Mac, I think, I mean, 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.920 it's a great question, Mac, uh, I as you know 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.480 better than I you do you talk to these players 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.600 every day because I've always loved the mental aspect of 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.160 these players. I asked Andre tonight I was like, do 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.080 you believe that you can be on the PGA Tour. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.559 This is the guy who's forty one years old and 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.480 has played two PGA Tour events, And I said, do 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.240 you belong on the PGA Tour? And he said, And 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.720 whether that's true or not, it doesn't matter. He believes it. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.839 And so I don't know if he thinks that far 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.640 ahead mac like or thinks about options like that, would 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.360 he rather play in the John Dear I think he 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.680 believes that he can he can win the way management 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.440 despite the odds that it probably it's going to be 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.240 a lottery ticket basically probably not that good odds well, 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.840 and even more on that, it gets even harder because 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.680 these are guys who used to playing with nobody watching, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.479 and now you come to the crucible of TPC Scottsdale 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.360 with you know, a hundred thousand plus people, a lot 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.600 of big Yahoo factor, the noise, the energy, the distractions. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.280 I mean to think that you could go from the 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:33.079 Dakoda's Tour and then navigate that's completely different competitive environment. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.439 Just it just adds to the romance if one of 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:36.960 these guys don't even make the cut, because it would 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.960 be a phenomenal accomplishment. I think it becomes a two 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.640 day story now to see if they can make a 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.959 cut instead of having to follow a four day story. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.760 In what you're seeing who wins the tournament. Like the 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.200 idea that you're now just following guys just to see 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.280 if they could, like like Baldwin and A T and 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.079 T last year, which was can you make the cut? 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.160 And then it becomes a turner. It's a one day 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.959 tournament FTMA cut to see how much he can impact 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.120 his life. It's just so much more interesting to me 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:06.920 than one of these top players in the world just 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.680 getting another one point eight million dollar check or whatever 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.880 they're gonna be. It just um, it's no contest for me, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.920 you know. The tour kind of like Augusta has gone 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:22.160 away from printing money, right it'll tell you how much 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.240 money to tall me FedEx cup points. Now money is 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.800 back into the conversation. It's all everybody talks about. And 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.640 it's kind of funny. And Scott's tale is gonna be 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.480 talking about the money and there's a football studium around 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.520 the part three. You can't make it more non traditional 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.240 than that, and so it's it's kind of comical. That 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.840 now money is the only It's like the lottery's gotten 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.480 big enough for people to play by tickets now or something. Uh, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.440 this is gonna be fun to watch Ryan. If these 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.280 get Ryan, if these guys top ten this week, do 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:57.200 they get into Honda? Yes? Uh, he had what's next 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.560 week Genesis, so they would not get into Genesis and 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.880 then uh, and they would get into Honda, and they 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.760 would So I mean that gets to Matt's point. In 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.559 other words, you've got competitions within competitions. They just wanted 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.560 a tremendous competition. Get into the field. Now they can 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.840 make a cut. Can they play you're good enough golf 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.000 and Saturday and send you to top ten and get 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.480 another started, another start at Honda. You know, careers have 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.679 started on less likely things than that. Yeah, I mean 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:29.040 I think for especially like Andre, I mean and and 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.480 Brett too. I mean, Brett was talking today about how 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.600 he's saving money here and saving money there as all 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.640 these guys do and girls that are charging it. And 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.000 I think a little pressure off guys like Andre if 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.880 he makes the cut because you finished his dead last 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.760 forty three thousand might as well be a million. And so, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.800 you know, a little pressure off and you can just 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.560 kind of free wheel. It's but yeah, I mean, I 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.720 said to Jake, our producer, and you know we've agreed, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.000 there's nothing like this in sports. You don't there is 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.720 no free throw contest to join the Lakers, and it's 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.360 not joined the Lakers and sit on the end of 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.720 the bench. It's joined the Lakers, and you have the 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:13.160 same exact chance as everybody else does. Like obviously talent aside. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.679 When you tee it up, you're equal to Rory McElroy 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.520 on Monday. And there's nothing like it in sports. I 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:26.000 obviously love it, but I love it. That's great stuff. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.400 So to max point, you know, money makes the world 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.640 go around, and especially the golf world right now, and uh, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.520 it'll be a big part of of the Phoenix Open backstory. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.240 But it's certainly had an effect on the term that 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.800 just ended in Pebble Beach because you know Pebble used 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.160 to get a pretty good field. Tiger played its a 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.280 good amountain in the early years. You know, Phil was 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.720 a staple. Uh, you had to you had a guys, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.640 you know, some of the Florida guys never played it whatever, 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.880 but it was a respectable field and there were always 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.640 some stars at the top, where there was Dustin Johnson, 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.160 whom I of her. But with the advent of Middle 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.160 Eastern money and now especially live golf and and the 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.760 saut inter National, you know, pell Beach has has been 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.400 decimated from the standpoint of attracting players, and um, you know, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.560 we saw a lot of guys withdraw on before the 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.839 tournament even ended. And it's a shame because those of 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.920 us who were on the ground, like Matt and myself, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.520 there's no term, there's more fun to be at. The 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.120 pros are relaxed, the amateurs are good fun. There's there's 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.600 parties and dinners and and music every night. And when 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.000 you're on the grounds, it's it's an incredible experience. But 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.840 if you're watching at home, um, you know, there's not 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.920 enough cameras at Spyglass or Monterey Peninsula, and there's not 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:45.160 enough no stars on the leaderboard. So Mac, I'm curious 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.679 for your overview about you know that they we're starting 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.960 to really see it now that this chasm between the big, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.600 big events like Phoenix and the non elevated events like Pebble, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.240 And are you hearing from players like they are now 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.160 building their whole schedule around the elevated events, and what 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.440 is your take on on sort of the house versus 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.640 the have mores on the PG tour right now. Well, 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.480 it's the first time that I in my career thirty years, 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.559 that I've ever heard of players schedule based on purse. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.760 The usually based on their playing, you know, the courses 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.200 they like, the rest schedule, three on one off, that 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.400 kind of thing. That's the first time I've ever heard 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.760 them talking about money, and not that winning three million 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.520 and wonderful, but winning a million and a half is 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.120 I mean astonishing, and why they even cared And I 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.040 think that one of the problems. And you see this, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.840 and I won't go to the player, but there have 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.760 been players that have played the week schedule on tour. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.680 There's always been elevated that's an unelevated events. They just 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.880 never said it. There were always events that but there 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.960 were players that would be able to finish in the 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.120 top thirty and fed X points playing all the small events, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.440 playing against the least competition that you can play in, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.600 and they get top thirty. In the next year, they 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.040 lose their card because now they start and the memorials 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.960 and the colonials and the Bay Hills, they play the 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.000 elevated events, and again I'm using elevated just because the 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.440 fields are stronger, and they lose their card playing against 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.720 that competition. And it's happened quite a few times. And 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.520 now you've got guys that haven't won on tour, that 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.200 have no security other than keeping their card this year, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.880 that are scheduling, skipping the Honda, skipping the San Diego, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.240 skipping the ones that are quote non elevated for the purse. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.680 And if I'm those guys, I'm thinking, let me go 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.720 get a win, let me go prove I can beat 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.720 these people before I gotta go play where the tour 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.480 makes the top fifty players come and beat them. So 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.440 it's changed the whole dynamic and I've never seen anything 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.360 like it. I mean, they really should just be honing 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.920 their skills and getting good at golf. Looking at how 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.360 much they make it should be relevant. It really shouldn't be. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.400 It's a great insight Mac, you know, and Tiger used 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.080 to always say that, and Jordan's Speed said the exact 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.080 same thing. When it's come win at every level of 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.320 which you're planning, and don't play at a level which 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.600 you're not ready to play. Uh so like if you 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.400 can top ten at John Deere, that doesn't mean can 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.800 top ten at the Genesis. It's a big difference in 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.320 golf course in field. So I think it's a it's 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.160 a great insight, and I think it would be a 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.160 very shrewd manager would say why don't you play this 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.040 tournament because this win will get you in the Masters 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.560 and you're not in the Masters Max two polite, but 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.680 I know he was thinking of probably Fred funk right, 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.080 who made a career out of winning opposite events and 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:35.040 and secondary events. But Ryan Gay and Wayne Levy, a 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.720 lot of guys Fred did when the players are so 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.440 when But you're right, there's a lot of guys that 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.160 created quite nice career. If you can look at the 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.360 tournaments they won, and they were they would have been 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.360 considered unelevated events based on the strength of field, not 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:56.080 the money necessarily. But it's okay, I mean, I mean 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.240 that's you know, we go back to Triple A baseball. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.600 There's it's okay to go play the weaker fields. But 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.600 and then, if you have to know thyself, you know 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.720 some of these guys, even though they may have a 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.760 really incredible year and win, they still shouldn't just step 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.920 themselves up and go on, I'm gonna play Memorial, I'm 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.399 gonna play golf course that don't fit their game. Um. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.040 I mean, but you see it. And again I guess 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.520 they want to test themselves against the best. But I 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.240 think once you're settled and you've got your tour wins 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.719 and you can you know you've got some time, then 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.040 go test. But if I, if I haven't won, I'm 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.920 going nowhere near these strong fields and if I can 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.240 help it. Matt, you know you you were on the 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.080 grounds of Pebble last week. We got to hang out 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.960 a little bit. Can you speak to that that um 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.440 sort of break between anyone who's on the grounds of 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.520 that tournament and and those watching at home. And I 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.680 know you had a really fun week popping around and 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.359 talking to people, and uh, if you're at Pebble Beach 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.600 and you're in the Gulf world, how how great and 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:58.800 how valuable the week is that? Yeah? Before I get 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.199 to that. By the way, just and Rose winds today 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.199 hasn't one in four years gets into the Masters. Like 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.359 Justin Rose is a guy who just who just cleaned up. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.520 I mean, what what an opportunity he just had had 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.560 one of these events to turn the back end of 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:19.720 his career around. I mean, good for him, by the way, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.960 all of him. I mean he's now he's not relevant again, 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.320 and that you know from what I was told from 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.920 good sources. He was. He was a live guy, like 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.760 forty two years old. He you know, done high burn 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:37.119 rate back home and he needed he needed something and 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.520 he just got. He just got what he needed. And 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.119 good for him at at a venue that obviously mattered 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.399 to him. But I was just going to talk about 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.399 how you know, Steve John is a friend of ours, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:52.520 the tournament director three courses, rain Wind. They had a 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.639 heart attack one of the caddies you know bow Hostler's group, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.080 you know the guy he put put his head and 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.800 you know Lucas Nelson's lap. They brought him back to life. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.200 He's still be intended to at at the local hospital. 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.560 All that, you know, Extra Day TV Tale, all this, 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.960 the egos and the logistics and all that goes into 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.280 Pebble Beach. But when you, like you say, and when 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.840 you're there, it is so much fun. The venues they're playing, 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.960 the people who are there. You know, they've done a 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.680 great job of getting relevant celebrities to be a part 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.920 of athletes Josh Alan and Aaron Rodgers one that they 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.560 I mean, music every night no matter where you turn, 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:40.840 there's multiple multiple The volunteers party was insane, you know 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:46.600 Eric Church and and uh Toby who is the Who's 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:52.560 the Lucas Nelson's actually blistered the blister the show, I 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.960 mean everyone went crazy. I mean it was Ray Romano, 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.639 you know, Darius Rucker one after the next getting up 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.560 and performing one trying to do out do the other. 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.159 Clint Eastwood their backstage, you know, Bill Murray coming up 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.640 and kissing the ring and giving respects to Clean Eastwood. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:14.320 It was It's an incredible event. And part of me 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.280 feels bad for them because they don't get the field. 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.480 Part of me respects the fact that they're like, you 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.439 know what, whoever is here wants to be here, and 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.320 whoever is gonna be here is gonna have a great time, 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.320 regardless of the elements of what's happening. They put on 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.160 a great event at a great venue and they got 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.080 it done, and they deserve credit. All the maintenance crew 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.720 that had to deal with the the weather and the elements, 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:39.159 and the squeegee and the greens I mean it was exhaustive. 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.760 I'm sure everybody be a part of that, but they 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:45.800 got it done and they deserve credit. Yeah, you know, 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.320 I know some of the board members of the help 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.199 run the tournament, and their attitude is really interesting. They 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.919 don't worry about the pros who don't show up, Like 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.600 that tournament has donated mortgage hearity than any other on 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.520 the PGA Tour, and they feel like their mandate is 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.919 ray as much money as possible for the community. And 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.440 so that you know, the amateurs not only did they 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.600 pay thirty thou dollars, but some some kick in extra 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.040 just because they love the event. Some guys say, well, 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.919 if you give me a spot, I'll I'll round up 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.879 two hundred thousand, whatever it may be. And it is 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.560 an incredible, uh community resource to have that tournament and 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.439 that that's that's the people who run it. That's what 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.480 they focus on. And I think it's admirable. We we get, 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.720 we get so wrapped up in and who's not there 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.720 but the pros that come, you know, they play hard. 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.760 They still give out ten million dollars or playing through 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.760 the best course golf courses on the planet, and so, uh, 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.960 it's you know, it's obviously my hometown event, and next 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.520 year it's it hasn't officially been named an elevated event, 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.640 but it's going to be. And of course it will 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.000 be a delight to see all the best players on 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.680 those golf courses. And there's probably be some tweaks to 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.280 the format. You know, they may just go thirty six 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.520 holes with the the amateurs and may only go two courses. 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.119 Like a lot of things are on the table to 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.399 make that whole, that whole event go. But um, in 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.800 the end, it was a pretty great show. And um, 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.480 you know, Justin Rose is funny because I talked about 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.240