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Speaker 5: But we brought Mike on to do some serious reforms

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Speaker 5: But we also thought that he'd make a better UN

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Speaker 5: think the media wants to frame this as a firing.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is ready to unveil his big, beautiful budget tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: The White House has given GOP leaders a list of wants.

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Speaker 9: This administration closed a loophole that allowed these low dollar

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Speaker 1: Ladies, y'all welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily

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Speaker 1: here live Washington, DC. Today is May second, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: a dominie. The jobs report that came out today absolutely

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Speaker 1: smashed expectations from Wall Street, especially the same Wall Street

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Speaker 4: The tariffs will never work. The tariffs, the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: They are losing their minds to hear how the tariffs

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Speaker 4: The calculation of the tariffs wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't good. It wasn't set up right. Now, look

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Speaker 1: at the jobs report. Came in tens of thousands. I

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Speaker 1: This is the very beginning of the Trump job boom

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Speaker 1: in America. Yeah, only one hundred days is all it

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Speaker 1: took for Trump's job boom to get launched. An analysts

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Speaker 1: could happened? Welly, could it be that the tariffs would

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure, because maybe you could actually let

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Speaker 1: Also, by the way, not only did he stun Wall

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Speaker 1: Let's look at jobs that actually went to Americans rather

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Speaker 12: Of volatility causing people to shake money out of the

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Speaker 6: Today. You know that you talk about influencers.

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Speaker 4: These are influencers and their.

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Speaker 2: Jack, Jack got all.

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Speaker 1: and Commissioner Just when we left before, we were talking

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Speaker 1: now as pertains to that. And yet we've fallen so

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Speaker 6: It absolutely does. It absolutely does.

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Speaker 12: Imagine going back to the United States of nineteen thirty,

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Speaker 12: funny to say that we're going to have military shipbuilding

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Speaker 12: It's very, very difficult to imagine a truly healthy navy

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Speaker 12: It's funny that in a world like this, the United

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Speaker 1: And that's what it all comes down to, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, it's one of these situations where

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Speaker 4: This was These are not new industries at all.

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Speaker 1: What's new is this idea through globalism that we could

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Speaker 4: Where can people go to track you. This was great.

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Speaker 4: This was not what we planned on talking about at all,

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Speaker 12: Just maybe one last closing comment on the ships in

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Speaker 12: The Clinton stand in is already telling people in Portsmith,

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Speaker 12: The muscle jobs are going overseas as I believe the phrase.

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Speaker 12: So he's all that telling them learn to code. So

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Speaker 1: But you know, the first step is admitting. The first

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Speaker 1: back here at Human Events Daily, Terrence.

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Speaker 13: in Florida right now, as the Sunshine State is becoming

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Speaker 13: a shining example of local and state implementation of his

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Speaker 13: border security and deportation efforts.

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Speaker 4: Our record.

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Speaker 13: Twenty two people accused of being in the country illegally

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Speaker 13: were arrested this week in Florida. Is touting the arrests

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Speaker 13: in this action packed video that was posted online. Florida

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Speaker 13: Governor Rond de Santa says his state's work with ICE

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Speaker 13: and the Department of Homeland Security is showing that this

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Speaker 13: really can be a well oiled machine.

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Speaker 14: You hear a lot about due process. We have tens

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Speaker 14: of thousands of illegal aliens in Florida at a minimum,

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Speaker 14: that have already been issued final orders of removal, and

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Speaker 14: there's hundreds of thousands of them throughout the United States

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Speaker 14: of America. So they've had a lot of process, they've

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Speaker 14: been ordered to be removed, they have not complied with

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Speaker 14: those removal orders, and that's a very very high priority

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Speaker 14: for our state efforts to continue to identify those individuals

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Speaker 14: and make sure that their return to their country of origin.

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Speaker 13: US Immigration and Customs Enforcement reportedly has five hundred and

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Speaker 13: seventeen agreements in place across twenty one states allowing local

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Speaker 13: police to make immigration arrests and detain people for immigration

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Speaker 13: VIACE relations. Dozens of additional agreements are coming down the pike.

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Speaker 13: President Trump is back at mar A Lago. As I said,

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Speaker 13: for a long weekend away from the White House. He

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Speaker 13: actually made his way to Florida after addressing graduates here

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Speaker 13: at the University of Alabama, whom he calls the first

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Speaker 13: graduating class of this Golden Age of America. The President

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Speaker 13: delivered the commencement addressed Thursday during a special event in

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Speaker 13: advance of today's graduation ceremonies at Alabama. By the way,

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Speaker 13: President Trump is set to address graduating cadets at the

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Speaker 13: US Military Academy during this graduation season, will of course

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Speaker 13: be covering that for you as well. Here Umbrell America's Voice. Well,

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Speaker 13: that's going to do it for your headlines. As always,

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Speaker 13: we appreciate you being here with us here on Breal

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Speaker 13: America's Voice and on Human Events Daily with Jack Pasobik. Now,

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Speaker 13: let's get you back to the show.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Jack, where's Jack? Where's Jack Worthy?

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Speaker 4: Jack? See you?

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Speaker 6: Great job, Jack, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: What a jock you do?

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Speaker 11: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 6: We're always talking.

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Speaker 4: About the fake news and the band, but we have guys,

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Speaker 4: and these are the guys.

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Speaker 1: You're forgetting bullishes, all right, Jack Pasobic we are back

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Speaker 1: live here Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: Another beautiful day in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad it's good weather today because immediately after this,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to a fun run my kids where they're

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Speaker 1: going to throw paint on me, which be great. I'm

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Speaker 1: really really excited. I will be taking the jacket off

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Speaker 1: for that. It's a fundraiser. I want to welcome in

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Speaker 1: here at the Salem Radio Network as well as the

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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice audience and our next guest, the great

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Speaker 1: doctor Steve Turley. Doctor Turley, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us back here in human Events.

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Speaker 11: Oh, it's great to be back with you.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 11: Do I get to come and throw paint at you too?

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Speaker 1: You can come, but I've got to have my paintball

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Speaker 1: on there, so you better be ready.

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Speaker 11: Oh no, oh, I'm going to get it back with my.

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Speaker 1: Kind heard season kids poso. When when I get the

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Speaker 1: Timman a five out? But uh, doctor Turley, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you, you know what we've seen. You and

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Speaker 1: I were kind of tweeting the other day when Easter

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Speaker 1: happened that it seemed like, from a variety of different

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Speaker 1: signs that this easter seemed like a bigger Easter.

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Speaker 4: It just it just it was.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say because Easter is always big. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's the biggest Christian you know, festival and holiday of

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Speaker 1: the year liturgically and theologically, of course.

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Speaker 4: But but there was more around this Easter.

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Speaker 1: You saw The Great King of Kings from Angel Studios,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was breaking records at the box office.

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Speaker 1: And then The Chosen was at the box office with

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Speaker 1: like three other movies. I think there was another Christian

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Speaker 1: theme movie that was at the box office. Meanwhile, Snow

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Speaker 1: White went down in flames, snow woke. What is going

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Speaker 1: on right now? And are we experiencing a Christian revival?

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Speaker 15: We are in a nutshell, we are. It's pretty astonishing stuff.

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Speaker 15: Scholars call it re traditionalization, and it's really happening. We're

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Speaker 15: seeing it in real time. I was following your x

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Speaker 15: feed right around Easter weekend. You were on top of

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Speaker 15: it all as usual. But yeah, I mean, the numbers

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Speaker 15: don't lie. In France, there was a record breaking seventeen thousand,

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Speaker 15: eight hundred converts baptized across the country. This is ten

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Speaker 15: four hundred adult baptisms, seven four hundred young people baptisms,

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Speaker 15: is between eleven and seventeen all into the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 15: And keep in mind these are baptisms, so these are

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Speaker 15: converts coming in they've never been baptized before. Forty five

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Speaker 15: percent increase from this time last year. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 15: it wasn't just France. Belgium baptisms were up fifty percent

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Speaker 15: from this time last year. In London, in the Catholic

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Speaker 15: Archdiocese of west Minster, there are a record number five

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Speaker 15: hundred converts who were received into the church on Easter vigil.

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Speaker 15: That's a twenty four percent increase from their previous highest,

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Speaker 15: which was back in twenty eighteen. And this is again

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Speaker 15: part of this stunning sort of surge, particularly in trad

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Speaker 15: Catholic Church membership in the UK. They're on course to

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Speaker 15: surpass and I bet you know this, Jack, they're on

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Speaker 15: course to surpass the Anglican Church membership for the first

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Speaker 15: time since Henry the Eighth, since the founding of the

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Speaker 15: Anglican Church. And we saw some tropitable numbers. You're in

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Speaker 15: the United States, Patricks, Yeah, it's stunning.

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Speaker 11: It's donning. Three hundred and fifty people were baptized.

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Speaker 1: By the way, doctor Charlie, I guess does does that mean,

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Speaker 1: does that we get I mean we get all our

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Speaker 1: abbeys and monasteries and churches back that the King and

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Speaker 1: the Crown confiscated from the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 4: I think I'll have to wait on that one.

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Speaker 7: I suppose, well, we'll bring your payments you maybe a

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Speaker 7: little at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, It's amazing stuff.

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Speaker 15: I have to tell you, because what's going on here

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Speaker 15: is just par for the course of what's happening all

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Speaker 15: over the world. Scholars such as Rodney Stark of Baylor

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Speaker 15: University just passed away a couple of years. He was

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Speaker 15: calling it what he was noticing over the last decade

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Speaker 15: the single greatest religious revival in the world we've actually

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Speaker 15: ever seen, and it is turning the world more and

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Speaker 15: more politically conservative. And it's this process known as retraditionalization,

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Speaker 15: where more and more populations are pushing back against liberal globalism,

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Speaker 15: against wokeness by re embracing nation, culture, custom, and tradition,

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Speaker 15: most particularly their religious traditions as mechanisms of resistance against

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Speaker 15: the anticultural processes of liberal globalism and its secular aristocracy.

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Speaker 15: And they're embracing what's so cool about it, Jack, is

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Speaker 15: they're embracing like real classical tradition lists Christianity. They're attracted

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Speaker 15: to the Latin Mass. We're seeing in my communion, the

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Speaker 15: Orthodox Communion, we've seen an eighty percent increase in converts

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Speaker 15: since twenty twenty two, which was the highest number recorded

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Speaker 15: post pandemic. And you know, you and I were talking

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Speaker 15: about this in Austin. It's being driven primarily by young men.

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Speaker 15: Young men more than anyone else, are coming into the church. Actually,

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Speaker 15: for the very first time, we're finding that young men's

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Speaker 15: faith commitment is larger than women's. So this was based

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Speaker 15: on an American Enterprise Institute's study. Gen Z ers five

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Speaker 15: thousand of them. So these are people born between nineteen

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Speaker 15: ninety seven and twenty twelve. And in that survey they

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Speaker 15: asked you identify as religious or non religious. About forty

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Speaker 15: percent of the women they are described themselves as non religious,

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Speaker 15: but only about thirty percent of the men describe themselves

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Speaker 15: as non religious. That's unheard of. We've never seen that

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Speaker 15: before researchers. Researchers always find men more non religious than women. Always,

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Speaker 15: any any age cohort, you name it. Not with gen Z,

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Speaker 15: gen Z looks like it's not just the most religious

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Speaker 15: demographic that we have in terms of age. It may

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Speaker 15: actually be the one representing where the men are returning

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Speaker 15: and they're turning to faith.

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Speaker 4: And this this is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, and I've seen by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this with you know, we see it at

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Speaker 1: the Catholic Church where if you go to churches. Now

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Speaker 1: it started in the Latin Rite churches, but now it's

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Speaker 1: moved over even into the Novis order. That's the one

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Speaker 1: the ones that you'll see in English for for those

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Speaker 1: out there trying to trying to follow up with all

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Speaker 1: of our liturgical.

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Speaker 11: Talk is in Latin. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: That that you will see the veils. The veils are

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Speaker 4: coming back.

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Speaker 1: And what's so interesting to me is that you see

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Speaker 1: the veils coming back with women who are sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, over sixty, but also the women under thirty.

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Speaker 4: The women under thirty are coming in in veils and

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Speaker 4: you're seeing.

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Speaker 1: They will kneel, but full kneel before they go for

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Speaker 1: communion and neil and no communion on the hand, actually

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Speaker 1: communion on the tongue. And what does that mean that

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Speaker 1: you know, basically that is the more traditional way. I

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Speaker 1: am not worthy this is the body price. And again,

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Speaker 1: these are these outward implements that we can all see

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Speaker 1: to realize that what's going on is and I think,

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Speaker 1: and I'll ask your take on it as well, but

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Speaker 1: I imagine it's similar that what's going on is that

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Speaker 1: we've lived in such a secular, atheistic world. It's like, guys,

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Speaker 1: the atheist, you've had your shot. You had your shot

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Speaker 1: and it completely failed. I said it yesterday on the

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Speaker 1: program COVID. Was your your shining moment in the Mud.

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Speaker 1: And people realize that we can't go on like this anymore,

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Speaker 1: and so they're grasping from for some sort of traditional meaning.

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Speaker 1: They want to snap all the way back as far

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Speaker 1: as they can go. And that's why they're going back

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Speaker 1: where to the most traditional forms of worship that we

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Speaker 1: have available, those available in the traditional rights of the

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Speaker 1: Catholic Church and in the Orthodox Church.

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Speaker 4: That's why they're looking for. They don't want the you know,

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Speaker 4: the woke modernist.

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Speaker 1: You know kind of And I was at that temporary

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Speaker 1: prayer service with the female shop that President Trump and

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Speaker 1: Jade vance and she starts yelling.

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Speaker 4: At them and go.

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Speaker 1: I was, I was sitting a couple pews behind them

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Speaker 1: with my brother and just she's going off about illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens and you shouldn't do that. It's kind of looking

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Speaker 1: at each other like what do we get ourselves into?

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Speaker 1: And yes, yeah, bull their bull their tax exempt status

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Speaker 1: along with Harvard's by the way, but do you think

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Speaker 1: that's what it is? Are people searching for meeting and

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Speaker 1: they want the fullest meaning they can find.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well what you found yourself in is something called episcopalianism.

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Speaker 15: And yes, listen to talk about it being an episcopalian.

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Speaker 15: It's quite the fun stories there.

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Speaker 11: I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 15: There's a theorist, a cyclical theorists, very much like Fourth Turning,

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Speaker 15: but at a bigger like civilizational level, by the name

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Speaker 15: of Pitirrum Psauricin. He's the American Russian sociologist. He founded

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Speaker 15: the sociology department at Harvard back in the nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 15: And that's his You pretty much summed up his argument.

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Speaker 15: His argument in the nutshells that all civilization is rooted

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Speaker 15: in religion, you know, classic ancient religion. All civilization is

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Speaker 15: rooted in religion because religion provides those sacred frames of

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Speaker 15: reference that give constant renewal to society. Society is always

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Speaker 15: breaking down in some way, shape or form. It needs

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Speaker 15: to find sort of like a a fountain of youth

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Speaker 15: to constantly rejuvenate itself, and that's what religion traditionally provided.

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Speaker 15: And then he recognized that every society has a secular

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Speaker 15: element to it. You know, you got to learn how

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Speaker 15: to you got to mow the lawn, you got to

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Speaker 15: do your accounting, you gotta cook the meals, and blah

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Speaker 15: blah blah. So he just saw the secular as just

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Speaker 15: the mundane, everyday sort of stuff. But the secular was always,

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Speaker 15: in some way, shape or form, an embodiment of the sacred,

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Speaker 15: of the eternal of the religious. He theorized that virtually

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Speaker 15: every society at some point goes on a prodigal journey

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Speaker 15: where the secular sort of breaks off from the sacred

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Speaker 15: and says, I got this, I don't need you no

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Speaker 15: more kind of thing. So it breaks off from the

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Speaker 15: sacred and tries to do its own thing for a while,

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Speaker 15: but it inevitably ends up collapsing because it doesn't have

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Speaker 15: those eternal sources of renewal that you get only with

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Speaker 15: the religious sacred. So it ends up inevitably collapsing. I

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Speaker 15: love how you said it, like in the sense of COVID.

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Speaker 15: In many ways, I think it was the most stark

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Speaker 15: moment where we recognize, is this what we signed up for?

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Speaker 15: The sterile, ugly sort of tyrannical, despotic nonsense is so

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Speaker 15: it starts to rot. But what sor can this is

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Speaker 15: the cyclical part pointed out. Sorkin noted that that rot

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Speaker 15: actually turned more into a compost, and then the religious

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Speaker 15: seeds are still there to blossom again. And they're still

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Speaker 15: there because they really are eternal. They really are an

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Speaker 15: eternal point of renewal. We may leave them, these eternal seeds,

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Speaker 15: but it doesn't leave us. And so when we rot,

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Speaker 15: when we come back on our prodigal journeys, all of

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Speaker 15: a sudden, you'll inevitably see another springtide of religious renewal.

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Speaker 11: It's a beautiful cyclical pick.

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Speaker 15: This is.

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Speaker 1: This is why, by the way, that when the communists

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Speaker 1: come to power in any country anywhere, and the revolutionaries,

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Speaker 1: what's the first group they go after, Well, they try

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Speaker 1: to root out those seeds. That's exactly who they target,

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Speaker 1: because they realize that there cannot be a competing religion

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Speaker 1: to their religion, and so what do they do. They

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Speaker 1: target the priests, they target the nuns, they target the clergy,

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Speaker 1: and we saw this from Spain to Russia, to France,

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Speaker 1: to China and on the religious there the monks, and

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Speaker 1: they wipe them out completely until or in some cases

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Speaker 1: they are stopped by the way. Happy Franco. Right, this

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Speaker 1: is Jack Fisoba. You're listening to Human Events Daily, Real

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Speaker 1: America's Voice and Salem Radio Network Well with doctor Steve Turley.

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Speaker 4: Will be right back. Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 7: You'll get it.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 16: Doble shift happening in American public life ever since the

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Speaker 16: Baby Boomer generation. Surveys have shown women are more religious

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Speaker 16: than men, but not anymore. Two new surveys show Gen

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Speaker 16: Z men are more likely to claim religious affiliation and

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Speaker 16: even attend church than their female counterparts. Let's bring an

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Speaker 16: NBC News correspondent and NBC News Now Daily anchor Morgan Radford,

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Speaker 16: for a closer look at this trend and what it

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Speaker 16: means even politically.

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Speaker 6: Morgan make a great question.

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Speaker 2: It has lots of political implications, especially if you sort

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Speaker 2: of look down in the decades to come. But it's

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Speaker 2: a trend that America's religious leaders have been paying attention to.

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Speaker 2: But it's also some thing that a growing number of

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Speaker 2: political groups are tracking since this shift toward religion is happening.

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Speaker 2: At the very same time, there were also saying more

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Speaker 2: young men lean conservative on a number of social issues.

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Speaker 5: When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human

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Speaker 5: Events with Jack Phsobic.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jack with SOBK here we are back live.

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Speaker 1: It would be third hour of the Charlie Kirkshaw and

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Speaker 1: the Sale and Radio Network as well as Real America's

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Speaker 1: Voice Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 4: We're on with doctor Steve Turley, the host of Turley.

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Speaker 1: Talks and the author of Fight, the new book You

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Speaker 1: should go and get it and check it out, explain

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Speaker 1: so much about what's going on right now and what

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Speaker 1: you can do about it. And we're talking about this

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Speaker 1: religious revival, and you know, we were just talking the

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Speaker 1: last segment about how this is also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: coming up in political results.

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Speaker 4: You see it in election results.

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Speaker 1: There's this election in Canada that yes, it went to

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Speaker 1: the liberals, but when you break it out by age,

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Speaker 1: guess what, it's only the fifty five plus that voted

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Speaker 1: for the liberals.

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Speaker 4: Every other age demographic under fifty five voted for the conservatives.

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Speaker 1: This is a complete inversion of what we thought would

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Speaker 1: happen with politics, and so what is it.

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Speaker 4: Do you believe that this is also something that's driving this,

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Speaker 4: doctor Turley?

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Speaker 15: Oh, definitely, yeah, yeah, And I'm laughing because we were

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Speaker 15: talking before the break. There's a large books about four

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Speaker 15: hundred pages two British authors called the Cultural Backlash, and

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Speaker 15: it's been widely known as the Cultural Backlash Thesis. I

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Speaker 15: think it was published in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and

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Speaker 15: it basically made the argument that, yeah, Trump has won,

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Speaker 15: this is back in twenty sixteen. Yeah, we're seeing the

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Speaker 15: nationalists populist rise all over europ Yeah yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 15: don't those are just a bunch of old white men

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Speaker 15: who are threatened by this new, beautiful multicultural progressivism that's

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Speaker 15: awakening all around them, and they're just doing their archie

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Speaker 15: bunker thing. But they're all going to die out, and

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Speaker 15: within ten years or so, this world is gonna be

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Speaker 15: this happy, clappy, woke place. And the reason why that

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Speaker 15: is so absurd is because it's the exact opposite. In

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Speaker 15: the end, it's actually the boomers. Sorry, you know, exers

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Speaker 15: aren't that much better per se. I'm an exer technically,

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Speaker 15: but really the boomers are kind of the They're the hangover,

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Speaker 15: as it were. They're the lag of an old world,

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Speaker 15: a liberal, industrial, modernist world that really came to the

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Speaker 15: four in nineteen ninety one with the fall of the

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Speaker 15: Soviet Union, and then we became kind of the unipolar.

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Speaker 15: We became a unipolar world with United States at the

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Speaker 15: head and kind of neocon philosophy saying we basically rule

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Speaker 15: the world. We rule it politically, we rule it economically,

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Speaker 15: we rule it militarily. And that world, that concept of

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Speaker 15: just these structures, the WTO and the IMF managing world order,

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Speaker 15: the rules based order, where you put all this trust

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Speaker 15: in those institutions and in universities and science because they're

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Speaker 15: all rational and objective.

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Speaker 11: That world is dead.

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Speaker 15: It is dead in the hearts, certainly in the hearts

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Speaker 15: and minds of people under the age I would say,

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Speaker 15: of fifty, and it still lives on.

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Speaker 11: There is the lag.

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Speaker 15: It's still there, no question, But I think politically it's

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Speaker 15: really only living in the memories of voters.

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Speaker 11: Who are probably sixty and up.

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Speaker 15: Who still have a lot of trust in those institutions,

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Speaker 15: who still believe, you know, when they're hearing things from

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Speaker 15: the CDC or the who oh, I bet listen to

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Speaker 15: that kind of stuff, they still believe in that. And

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Speaker 15: they see the new nationalists populist movements around the world

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Speaker 15: as fascist and Nazi and dangerous, and you know, white

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Speaker 15: supremacists and Christian nationalists and so forth, And when in

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Speaker 15: point of fact, all it is it's another world that's rising,

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Speaker 15: it's another world order that's rising. What is it nation, culture, custom, tradition,

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Speaker 15: it's civilizationalism. So it's a world where civilization is rising

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Speaker 15: together with the ancient religions so as to create a

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Speaker 15: new world that is far more conservative, but I would

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Speaker 15: argue as well, far more free, because it breaks through

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Speaker 15: those managerial institutions that function as a one size fits all,

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Speaker 15: top down rule.

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Speaker 1: That's an incredible that's an incredible way of looking at it,

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Speaker 1: the rise and the return perhaps of Western civilization, because

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Speaker 1: we see Eastern civilization being absolutely resurgent right now on

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Speaker 1: the world stage. You see it with Russia, which of

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Speaker 1: course is an ancient civilization. You see it with India,

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Speaker 1: you see it with China, certainly these have been around

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Speaker 1: for thousands of years.

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Speaker 4: So who are we as the West?

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Speaker 1: And I think we've been sort of going through this

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Speaker 1: national and civilizational question for quite some time, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's making us question some of the shibboliths and the

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Speaker 1: taboos and the values that we've been holding up over

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Speaker 1: the last thirty years, and realizing that perhaps that was

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Speaker 1: a was a singular moment in global history that's never

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Speaker 1: going to come back again, and so we have to

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Speaker 1: remember who we are, Doctor Turley, We're all out of time.

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Speaker 4: Where could people go to follow you and get the book?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 15: You can just punch my name, doctor Steve Turley to

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Speaker 15: youtubeer Rumble. You'll find my channel there and just go

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Speaker 15: to Amazon to grab the book. Fight How Trump and

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Speaker 15: the Maga movement are changing the world.

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Speaker 4: Amen, Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my permission.

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Speaker 6: To lay ashore.

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Speaker 16: Such stars.

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Speaker 1: Siss