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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. All rain drops on today's episode Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King listen. I have to check my blood

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Speaker 1: pressure because after watching part three of the Real Housewaher

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Speaker 1: Orts Councer Reunion, I don't know how this recap is

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Speaker 1: going to go. I have some very strong opinions that

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Speaker 1: may be extremely unpopular, but hey, that's why you tune

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Speaker 1: into me An Alexis. Alexis Jansen is here, and before

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Speaker 1: we get started with OC, first of all, you look

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Speaker 1: smoking hot. Make sure y'all are subscribing to YouTube so

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Speaker 1: I can see our recaps as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to it.

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Speaker 3: But a lesson is well woman who was dominating Bravocon

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Speaker 3: and interviewing everybody, including your former boss the EP of OC,

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Speaker 3: alex Baskin, talk to me about you.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm still tired. I haven't unpacked. I don't know. Let

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Speaker 4: me see if I can get you. Look. Look i've been.

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Speaker 4: I literally can't believe it. Every time I walk up here,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get it done. I've got

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Speaker 4: to get the stuff to dry cleaning. I got, you know,

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Speaker 4: I can't get It's one thing after the next, which,

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Speaker 4: by the way, the doorbell might ring and my twins

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Speaker 4: are gone. It's their eighteenth birthday today, and the rental

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Speaker 4: company was supposed to be here at nine point thirty

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Speaker 4: and we were recapping at nine forty five and they

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Speaker 4: haven't shown up yet. So I'm just gonna have to

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Speaker 4: run down show more to put stuff and go because

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Speaker 4: it's gonna pour tonight.

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Speaker 2: And I we love you in action girl. All good?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So back to Alex Baskin and guys, I don't

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Speaker 4: look that hot. He just says that to you'll too

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Speaker 4: into his YouTube, don't listen to him. But anyway, okay,

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Speaker 4: I have to tell you about Alex. I was so nervous,

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Speaker 4: and I was not really nervous, have doctor Heavenly. I

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Speaker 4: was nervous about because we're sweet or such from different worlds.

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Speaker 4: I was nervous about her, But I was so nervous

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Speaker 4: about Alex because I did not prepare. I woke up late,

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Speaker 4: I got to bed super late. I did not sit

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Speaker 4: there and go, Okay, what do I want to ask him?

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Speaker 4: What do I want to do? I literally sat there

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Speaker 4: and then was like, okay, like you've got this, sweat's

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Speaker 4: coming out. You know, I'm sweating. I'm like, okay, you

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Speaker 4: got this. You can do this, you can do this,

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Speaker 4: pull it together. And so I just I just started

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Speaker 4: thinking what would people want to know and what am

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Speaker 4: I curious about? And then it was amazing And he's

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Speaker 4: you know what I love about him, Carlos, He actually

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Speaker 4: is pretty deprecating or like he'll like he'll be honest,

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Speaker 4: he'll be super honest about where he's at, or you know,

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Speaker 4: it's not like he's love at His answers were a

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Speaker 4: little political or you know, uh.

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Speaker 1: Well he has to be because you know he's an executive.

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Speaker 1: But Alex is a sweetheart.

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Speaker 2: I love him, a great guy. But go ahead, so

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Speaker 2: did you get any I mean?

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Speaker 1: Bicky was announced as being asked to return to season twenty.

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Speaker 2: Did you get any.

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Speaker 1: Tea about what season twenty looks like from Alex Baskin?

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Speaker 4: I did ask about Katie for that. I went over speaking,

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Speaker 4: first of all, I'm super excited that Biggie's back. I

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Speaker 4: about that. Yeah, this is gonna be a fun season

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Speaker 4: because she's so funny.

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Speaker 2: We need some fun. He's a big.

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Speaker 4: Dork, but she's also like a really cool dork, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. So anyway, I got and then

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Speaker 4: I kind of dove in about Katie and I just said, so,

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Speaker 4: there's a ton of you know, word out there on

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Speaker 4: there's people that say, oh, she definitely will because of

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Speaker 4: Where does it stand Alex? And he just said this

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Speaker 4: I can't you know, we don't have the information yet.

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Speaker 4: The final Reunion hasn't aired yet. We don't have We

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Speaker 4: you know. So I mean I believe them on that.

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Speaker 4: I believe that they really don't know. They probably do

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, we're happy Vickya's back.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised by how many people showed you love Alexis?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, here's why because even last year when I

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Speaker 4: hid in my house for about three months and went

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Speaker 4: was getting duck threats and all that, Even during that time,

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Speaker 4: when you're out in public, people still say they love you.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like the people behind the computer that

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Speaker 4: show you so much hate really don't hate you. They're

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Speaker 4: just really bored with their lives or just have a

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Speaker 4: it is, Carlos, because I've never been in public one time.

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Speaker 4: No matter how much my you know, my the love

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Speaker 4: has been rude to John or me. And in fact,

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Speaker 4: even when we were on the outs last year, when

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Speaker 4: things that everyone's saying stop doing this, and we were

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Speaker 4: just living at We're like, no, this is what we're

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Speaker 4: going to live our life and do what's supposed to

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Speaker 4: be done, and people would still say you're our favorite

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Speaker 4: staying there, hanging tall, you know, you know, so I

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Speaker 4: don't know, but it was. It was really awesome. You know.

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Speaker 4: One of the most fun things was Galina's birthday. Oh

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Speaker 4: in the YouTube, I know, it's it's it's just you

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Speaker 4: gotta just take it in stride. The hate that that

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Speaker 4: the public eye. I mean, yeah, but okay, one of

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Speaker 4: the most fun things with the Gallina birthday party because Carlos,

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Speaker 4: it was like the melting pot of Bravo. We had

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Speaker 4: me for Moscy, we had Galina from McBee Dynasty, we

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Speaker 4: have for boys from McBee Dynasty were all three there.

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Speaker 4: They are so cool by the way, and just just cool.

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Speaker 4: And then we had Jesse and Luke from the Valley,

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Speaker 4: it was like I looked around the table and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: this is really like one about one from every single

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Speaker 4: franchise and city that you can imagine.

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Speaker 2: I love that Jesse is like my guy.

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Speaker 1: I love me some Jesse Lally from the Valley, He's

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Speaker 1: I I'm obsessed with him. Heavenly is my friend in

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Speaker 1: real life and in Alexis she's my dentist out yes,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, after having a good job on his his his

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So I need to confirm this with you. I've been

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Speaker 1: reading some things on social media. Is it true that

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Speaker 1: Julia from the Real Housewives of Miami got booed at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was I was at the dinner right

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Speaker 4: after that had happened. It had literally happened, like not

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Speaker 4: and I would have been booed and booed and booed.

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Speaker 4: But I had such a good attitude about it and

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Speaker 4: And I can only go by my experience. I don't

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, how is Margaret Joseph's doing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Terretha, Melissa, Joe Gorga and Louie have reunited.

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Speaker 2: They're back together.

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Speaker 4: Know, I was going to tell you that because I

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Speaker 4: Very disheartening, especially since they lost their parents and they've

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Speaker 4: it makes me sick to think that that it won't survive.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Margaret very is fascinating by the way,

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Speaker 4: she's just got She's a fascinating human being. But her

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Speaker 4: husband is just as fascinating, and they are so cute together.

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Speaker 4: Like I remember always said, like the schlepping word. He

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Speaker 4: helping Galada down the escalator. He's like got his eyes on.

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Speaker 4: All the women that didn't have their bows will gleat

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take care of all these girls because

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: No, I love that on the show too.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Jersey is still up in the air

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Speaker 1: about what's going to happen to it. Did Margaret give

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Speaker 1: you any indication about whether or not she wants to

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Speaker 1: go back? Has she been test filming with anybody during

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Speaker 1: the castle process?

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Speaker 4: She said, it's still all just you know that no

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Speaker 4: one knows anything yet, so they're still in those stages.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, we're all hopeful, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: don't you think most of America wants them to Jersey

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Speaker 2: Oh well, listen, we all love Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Jersey is a staple when it comes to iconic franchises,

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Speaker 4: Three hundred and fifty. I'm like, okay, we all know

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Speaker 4: It's it's time for night, Carlos. If you're that tired,

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Speaker 1: I could not I could not agree with you more

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Speaker 2: A liking now.

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Speaker 1: To come back with this sort of Pollyanna ass excuse,

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. It was hard to

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Speaker 1: I have said numerous times, Tamra, these aren't your friends,

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Speaker 1: I have never seen a group of women kiss ass

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Speaker 7: You also miss which one is it? You misspeak? You

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Speaker 7: to say. All I didn't mean it that way. You

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Speaker 2: About heaving around her children. All of that to you

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Speaker 4: and the girls all go over and leave her and

434
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: Katie out for a shot. Okay, that's real witchy move,

435
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: you know, Like.

436
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it. No, I don't like it either.

437
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: And for the record, because I'll hope you guys actually

438
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: watched the reunion and can watch the nuances where Tamra said,

439
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: but you followed these accounts. Gretchen never denied it, and

440
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that you guys hear that.

441
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 4: That's a very good point. How are we gonna dive

442
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: into this analysis at.

443
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: All or not. That's why I love you so much

444
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: and why we got to keep doing this, because you

445
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: are right on the money.

446
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm coming up next with this. Let's be clear.

447
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: So rain drops, Gretchen said she paid thousands of dollars. Okay,

448
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: because again, Gretchen said, she gets paid for posting, right,

449
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: there was a joke there about posting these other things

450
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: that I'm like, let me just stay away from it.

451
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

452
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: So she said she paid thousand of dollars for a

453
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: cyber analysis to do this sort of you know, investigation

454
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: in terms of where all of these posters coming up,

455
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: what happened to them?

456
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: And she had the results.

457
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: She gave them to Andy, and she said that at

458
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: the end of the day they all came back to

459
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: Tamera orchestrating all of this.

460
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something.

461
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: I believe the cyber analysis results, just.

462
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: Like I believe the Life Detective results you guys had.

463
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: Like that's my thought. I was gonna say something like that. Okay, okay,

464
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: Well hold on, Carlos, hold on, because you know dateline

465
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: and BC here has got some facts for you. Okay,

466
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 4: what should I do?

467
00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: Go?

468
00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: Girl?

469
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 4: First of all, did you see what came out about

470
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 4: the guy that wrote that cyber analysis? He is Slade's friend,

471
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: they were he was on Slad's podcast five years ago, okay,

472
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: five years ago and not very credible, and everyone everyone

473
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: that's hearing this the same time Rasin should sue him.

474
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: But here's what Alexis did to go even further, because

475
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 4: that's just I can't stop Carlos. Okay, I don't. I'm

476
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 4: not bored. I'm super busy, but it bothers me when

477
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: things are mis quoted or done and properly, just like

478
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: the light detector test. Okay, And that's exactly what I

479
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: was gonna say. Is I researched the cyber thing and

480
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: I couldn't print it because my darn printer croaked this

481
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 4: morning or last night. But I have it on my

482
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: phone because I researched.

483
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: Okay, So.

484
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: What a PI cannot do? Are you ready?

485
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

486
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 4: And put your Okay, a P I couldnot hack Instagram illegal, Okay,

487
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: force Instagram to hand over your DMS. Instagram only complies

488
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: with law enforcement and with a valid court order, there's

489
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: no way that they got back. And Gretchen spent thousands

490
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: of dollars in that short of time. And this PI guy,

491
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: the cyber analysis guy, had enough time to get the

492
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 4: law enforcement involved and then access dms through special software

493
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: or PI tools these don't exist, and see your messages

494
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 4: through public records database or background checks. So basically, this guy,

495
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: how did he get his facts if he didn't have

496
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: subpoena Instagram to get all of this, have a cop

497
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 4: involved to get it all this was as it was

498
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: literally as valid as those light detector tests. You are

499
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: a million percent right. So I want to see that pamphlet.

500
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: Why doesn't Andy Cohen send me a copy of that

501
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: and let me do some research because I'm gonna then

502
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: call that PI or that cyber analysis dude and put

503
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 4: him in his place, even though I didn't go to

504
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 4: school for that, because anyone that believes that cyber analysis

505
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: has a freaking IQ of a vegetable, like you can't

506
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: believe it, go on and do the research. It's all online.

507
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 4: You can find it. You can you can research it

508
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: yourself and find it. And by the way, if he's so,

509
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 4: oh and then okay, well we'll get on to the

510
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: caller next. I'm going to have a heart attack because

511
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: I just I'm gonna have a heart attack.

512
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.

513
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: So the phone call, like we said last week when

514
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: we recapped this, the phone caller would have had to

515
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: sign off on, you know, getting his voice heard to

516
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: be on national television. You have to sign a waiver

517
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: to release your any and for anything you give them. Okay,

518
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 4: your looks you're walking down the park, if they show

519
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: your face or your voice.

520
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

521
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 4: So this mfort is a real person, he's not an AI.

522
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: But why is he disguising his voice? And he's not

523
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: the only person that would know these facts. All of

524
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: these women have significant others. They tell and I know

525
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: they're like, well but grutch to do No. Everyone talks.

526
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 4: Everyone talks, and there's what twenty five producers working around there. Sorry,

527
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: I hate to sit, Bravo, don't get mad at me.

528
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: But people know and people talk, and it's not just

529
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: one person. And by the way, if Tamra was the

530
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 4: one leaking all this stuff to the all the bloggers,

531
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: why didn't any information come out? Why wasn't there a

532
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: story told? If Tamer's doing this? Because bloggers can't wait

533
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: to tell what you tell them. Just like the whole

534
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: everything that came out with Katie, it all came out.

535
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't something have come out if Tamra really was

536
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: giving information to bloggers, there would have been some kind

537
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 4: of a leak of a story, not just lo and

538
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: behold all. Now, this phony caller comes with a disguised

539
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 4: voice and puts it you know, sends a DM, then

540
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: deletes that account, then sends a DM again. It's it's

541
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: all so shady. I want everyone to really put their

542
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: thinking caps on.

543
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: Well, apparently it seems like you and I are the

544
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: only one to who are doing it because the women

545
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: on the stage, we're trying to do it.

546
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Now.

547
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna say this, and I do not want

548
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: to put you in an uncomfortable situation. So this is

549
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: coming from me and not Alexis. Once again, these thoughts

550
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: are of Carlos King and.

551
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Not Alexi Janssen. So I'm gonna say that disclaimer.

552
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: I'm scared now.

553
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: Heather de bro I I'll say this. I was super

554
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: shocked the way she let Bretchmen off the hook, due

555
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: to obviously the affiliation that she has with the lgbt

556
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: quite lgbt Q I a plus community. Obviously, she's been

557
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: open about her children and their sexuality and openness about that,

558
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: and I think Heait is a great mother. I saw

559
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: Heather have more smoke for Katie. I saw Heather have

560
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: more smoke for Tamera than she did Gretchen. I will

561
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: admit that I was disappointed in seeing how I felt

562
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: like she was helping Gretchen come to the conclusion about

563
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: what her mistakes were when she said, well, that's why

564
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: I was saying to you, like at dinner, like say

565
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: something to me, say something to me. I that was

566
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: hard for me to look at, even when you know

567
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Gretchen was squealing but no tears come down her face

568
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: because it wasn't crying. It just it didn't survive with

569
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: me when I saw that, and I just felt like

570
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: if there was one time for someone to say, Okay, Gretchen.

571
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: Look, I get that you and Tama have this thing.

572
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, when it comes

573
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: to this cyber analysis, and when it comes to you

574
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: not even admitting that you have followed.

575
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: These accounts that are anti gay, some of them allegedly, I.

576
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Don't respect your response because it doesn't make sense to me.

577
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: The way Tamra overly explained her position up. I did

578
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: not do it in the way she got emotional and

579
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: cried and you saw tears. Those were things you expected

580
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: Gretchen to do if somebody's being accused of being anti gay,

581
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: an anti LGBTQ plus community. And the fact that she

582
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: only cried when she had to bring up naked ways

583
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: for the game, because that was one thing that she

584
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: wanted to remind people that Tamar did to her, that

585
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: she wanted all the girls to be like once again

586
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: that And I'll end by saying this, and again, these

587
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: are the thoughts of Carlos King, not Alexis Jansen gets

588
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Shannon off my show and Beck and Gobs and Voice,

589
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: because I can't take Shannon only siding with these girls

590
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: to get Tamra off. You don't have an original thought

591
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: of your own. You are only there and to to

592
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: to piggyback off of these women wanting.

593
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Tamra off. And I'll end by saying.

594
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: This, I'm okay with Emily coming for Tamra because that's

595
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: what that's what Emily does.

596
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: And I'm here for it, to be honest with you,

597
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: so that in bothered me because that's that Emily doing

598
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: her job right. I'm surprised about Gina. I was. I

599
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: was because I love Gina. I was shocked at Gina.

600
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Tried to say, well, I felt like Tamra said this

601
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: to me because she wanted me to bring it up.

602
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: You guys on the TV show, you all say stuff

603
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: to be brought up on the show. Tamra's not the

604
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: only one on that cast to have done that, so

605
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: I was.

606
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: I was disappointed. Gina. I still love you, but I

607
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: was disappointed, and that is my rant. Sorry, Alexis.

608
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: Wow, Well you got to go through pretty much everybody.

609
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: You went down the whole line there, so that's that's good.

610
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: You got it out right. I think the part that

611
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: shocked me the most about the Heather, because I'm going

612
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: to go through some of the girls with you. The

613
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 4: part that shocked me the most about Heather is when

614
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: Tamra said, I know I did tell Heather about it,

615
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: and Heather said, I want nothing to do with this.

616
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: That's what shocked me the most because it's like, you

617
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: have LGBTQ children, how do you not want to be

618
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: involved in that or like or like or have anything

619
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: to do with it. It's like that's what I just

620
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: was like, wow, because that was new information. You didn't

621
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: see that on the you know episode until the reunion.

622
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: So I'm sad. I'm sad because Heather and Tamra, you know,

623
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: have been friends for a long time, and at Bravo

624
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: Con it seems like they squashed I'll give you guys

625
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: some behind the scenes beef, but it seems like they

626
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: squashed it for the most part because they were hugging,

627
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: like when in the iHeart Suite when I'm interviewing everyone

628
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: and Heather and and Terry came in, you know, doctor

629
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: de Broke came in several times, and We're in and

630
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: out to do interviews and such. But they it seems

631
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: like they've worked past it. But I just I don't

632
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: like how, Yeah, nobody on that stage had Tamra's back

633
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: for anything, and they just it was a gang up.

634
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't ice out. It was like, look, Andy, look

635
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: how close we all are and we don't like her anymore,

636
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: you know, And like Carlos, do you still think it's

637
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: because she's Tamras just so raw? Or you are they jelus,

638
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: Like what do you think now after seeing the final Reunion.

639
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: What do you think is the reason they're so anti

640
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: Tamra because nothing Tamra's done is anything less than what

641
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: these other women have done. Nothing.

642
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I always base things on the facts, and that's the

643
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: reason why I have no emotional attachment when it comes

644
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: to these shows, because I'm not there.

645
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: These women aren't women I hang out with on a

646
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: regular basis.

647
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: So I always come from the position of a producer

648
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: who knows how the sausage is made, but also as

649
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: if you were right, and who watches these shows and

650
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: can always revert back to pre is episodes to state

651
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: my position.

652
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: When Tamarack got fired from the Real Housewives of.

653
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: Orange County, those women did plenty of interviews short of

654
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: celebrating her dismissal.

655
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, so I'm I'm privy, not pretty to this.

656
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: I'm not privy to this, So give a little because

657
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: some of the listeners they okay, what would they do?

658
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So.

659
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: Tama got fired, right, and Heather de bro stepped into

660
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the place. Okay, so Tamara got removed. Heather stepped in

661
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: everything from promotion to the way the season opened up.

662
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: The premiere episode was all about Heather's come back to

663
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: the show and the other women, because I watched every

664
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: single frame Jimily, Jimmily.

665
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: Okay, god good.

666
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: And that was a slip up. Just like my couple,

667
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: I've had right mixed words. It's fine.

668
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: After him, so Jimmie, there you go.

669
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: They all bowed down to the Queen because the way

670
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: it was set up, Alexis would listen, Alexis had that

671
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: big house, not Alexis Lord Jesus Heather.

672
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: Heather had that.

673
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: Massive home in Orange County at the time, and we

674
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: saw her closet for the first time as a view

675
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they all pretty much bowed down to

676
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: her and.

677
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: The other girls.

678
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: We do interview saying the season is so different. Tamra's gone.

679
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: It feels lighter, It's about real friendships, like dissing Tamra.

680
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: Long story short, everybody, including Carlos King said this is

681
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: the most boring season. We hate this season without Tamra.

682
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Talmer came back to the show. They all said, well,

683
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean she is good TV because everybody wants to

684
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: save their job now they know that Tama's good TV,

685
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: but the problem is Tamra.

686
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: They feel like can't be trusted. And that's what they

687
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: said this season.

688
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: Her friend Heather said, I can't not trust you. These

689
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: are things she said that I've been saying for years.

690
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: She finally said it. Emily has said it, Gina has

691
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: said it, said it, Shannon said it when Gretchen got

692
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: back on the show. The reason why all of these

693
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: girls are on Gretchen's side is because they would rather

694
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: deal with Gretchen than Tamar. They're not jealous of Tamar

695
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: at all. They are afraid of her. They are afraid

696
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: because Tama's gonna call shit out and Tamar is going

697
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: to be a great housewife, but they feel like it's

698
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: at their expense.

699
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why when it came to Katie

700
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: they could not trust Katie.

701
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: They're not jealous of her being like the longest running

702
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: housewife of all time, but they're jealous up no Jo,

703
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: They're they're scared of heart.

704
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Now with that being said, Alexis with Vicky.

705
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: Coming back, now they're like, Okay, you cannot do season

706
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: twenty without Vicky, Tamera and Shannon.

707
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: And now they're feeling like, what does that mean?

708
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: Because obviously there were unionists take before Vicky's announcement. This

709
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: past weekend, a Bravo con Yes, I can guarantee you

710
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Emily and Gina are afraid for their jobs.

711
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: Now, okay, so this is fascinating, Carlos, and you are

712
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: usually right, and I cannot wait to see because you know,

713
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: now that this is there, they're going to start They're

714
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: going to announce who the cast. You know, they're going

715
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: to start getting the phone calls and the girls are

716
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 4: going to start getting contracts sent via email. So who

717
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: I guestimate in the next two to three weeks we

718
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: will start hearing what's happening, but we'll see. Okay, who

719
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: do you think is going to be? Then give us

720
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: your and let's see if you're right, And don't ask

721
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 4: me this question. Don't or first question on me because

722
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: I have I am so baffled by the reunion. I

723
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: can't even I still can't even see straight from it.

724
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: So I have no clue what I think. I think

725
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: Bravo's just they're just crazy. They're crazy, but they're good

726
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: at their job. That's what I keep saying.

727
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: This is Prabo's King's prediction for a season twenty Real

728
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange.

729
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: County cast exclusively on Reality with the King with Alexis

730
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Janssen Okay, here we go, Vicky, Tamra Shannon. I'm gonna

731
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: stop there because rain drops. You want to see the

732
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: reunion of treasing me, Gus said.

733
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: You want to see it.

734
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: You want to see it, and and you want to

735
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: see the conflict resolution of those three women. That's why

736
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: now Heather, Emily, and Gina.

737
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Now, with that being said, with that being said, with

738
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: that being said.

739
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: There is a world where it may be Emily or Gina,

740
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: but Carlos King feels like it'll be those six women.

741
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: In addition two, in addition two, in addition to testing

742
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: two new housewives.

743
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: Where one or two, if they're good, will be a housewife.

744
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: I predict we'll get eight full time housewives if two

745
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: new women are great.

746
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, with that being said, with

747
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: that being said, you are going to see Alexis Johnson,

748
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of appearances from past OC housewives.

749
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: Joe, Gina, Kay, Laurie, Lizzie m An, Alexis Johnson.

750
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: Okay, well whatever we'll cross that it comes okay, But wait,

751
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: back up, you left out, so the six women you

752
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: think plus maybe you knew okay, you left out, so

753
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: you think Jen, Katie and Gretchen are all getting.

754
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, Okay, I fucked up.

755
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: I fucked up because.

756
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: Jen had first seat. They never get rid of the

757
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: first seat girl the next season. So I think Jen's

758
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 4: I think she's a shoeing. She's got to be a shoe.

759
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: They got rid of Tamera at the first seat. Okay,

760
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: but I'll say this good point. I think Jin.

761
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so I fucked up. I would say I'm sorry

762
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: I mentioned include Jin. That's why, Okay, I fucked up. Yes, Jen,

763
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I said. I could see a

764
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: world where they're going to choose between Emily and Gina.

765
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: I could see that to break up the alliance.

766
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: I could.

767
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: I could see a world, but that would happen. I

768
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: do believe you'll get one new housewife or two. But

769
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: I do believe that you will the women who.

770
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: Are coming back that you saw this season. I don't

771
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: think Katie's coming back, nor Gretchen. Wow, I'm saying.

772
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they really do have me, you know, and

773
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: I like to have my detective detective cap on, but

774
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: they have me confused and just thinking like anything's possible.

775
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 4: That's truly what I feel, for sure. But but I

776
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, I hate to say this, but I am

777
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: just objective and I'm just speaking my opinion. But I'm

778
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: so sick of Emily's stick. I'm so sick of her. Like,

779
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 4: if they're going to keep one, I hope they keep Gina.

780
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: I mean, at least Gina is a little bit more

781
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: funnier and just not as much of a loud mouth

782
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: dumb you know whatever.

783
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: But I just I don't know.

784
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 4: So, Okay, if that was the case, I would like

785
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: to see that happen, if they break those two up,

786
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: which it would also make the show more interesting by

787
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: the way, Carlos, you know, because they got tweetled de

788
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: and tweetl dumb. That's been going on for like six

789
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: years now. It's like, let's break them up and have

790
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: just one tweetled d or tweetled dumb, one of the two.

791
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: But then I don't know. I can't believe you think

792
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 4: both Gretchen and Katie are gone, because I just don't

793
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: know if I feel that, I'll say this much, Okay,

794
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: who's going to be the friend of the who's the friend?

795
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. That's the thing. The thing about

796
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Emily is this, and I'll go I'll go on record

797
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: saying this, Emily tried her best to push the envelope

798
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: and listen. As a producer and a viewer, I think

799
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: she was solid in her attempt.

800
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: The problem is this, Emily is inconsistent, and you can't

801
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: be inconsistent when you are trying to fulfill the role

802
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: of the force multiplier. It's a tough gig to push

803
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: the envelope, but you gotta be consistent. Her inconsistencies in

804
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: how she treated Katie and then Gretchen and then Tamera,

805
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: it exposed that she's doing stuff for an alliance and

806
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: for TV. So I believe that, Look, the coin may

807
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: be tossed between Emily and Gina, and I was go

808
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: on record saying that if they have to choose between

809
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: Emily and Gina, I Carlos King strongly believe they will.

810
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Choose Gina over Emily. For sure. Jen is standard OC

811
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: housewife material.

812
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: She has a very interesting storyline, backstory, and Ryan's interesting.

813
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: So I see a world she comes back Katie and Gretchen.

814
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: The reason why don't see Katie or Gretchen coming back

815
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: full time I'll say full time for now because we

816
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: have to get rid of all of the rest due

817
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: from this season.

818
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: We have to get rid of it.

819
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: Breaking Gretchen back. You're bringing you're breaking back, Slade, you're

820
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: breaking back. Naked waisted, you're bringing back.

821
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: We don't care to see that a facelift. We need

822
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 4: facelifting to stop living in the past. We need to

823
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: facelift and refresh right, refresh button.

824
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Gretchen is Slade, and so I don't see

825
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: if Gretchen does come back, it's like on an appearance

826
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: release basis.

827
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't see her getting a full time Orange.

828
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: When it comes to Katie, Yes, Katie was polarizing as

829
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: a fan favorite on social media. Katie isn't strong enough

830
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: to go up against these these women, And I think

831
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: I think they want to so badly have us forget

832
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: everything that happened with this season that they have to.

833
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Move forward and and and that's why for me, you

834
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: want to see I listen. I can watch twenty episodes

835
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: of seeing how.

836
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: Vickie, Tamarra and Shannon figure things out and and seeing

837
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: the up and down the relationship. Because one thing about

838
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: the conflict, it was always funny.

839
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't dark. The brother Bruce cancer thing was dark

840
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: because Brook made it dark.

841
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: That didn't involve Shannon and Tarra. So the fights that

842
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: Shannon and Tamar and why am I having a problem

843
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: here my red bull or my Alani's going to my head? Okay,

844
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: Vicky and Tamra and Shannon, their fights were not dark,

845
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: You're right. They were more of like, oh, you're just

846
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: annoying me kind of thing, and they weren't dark. So

847
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: I totally agree with that.

848
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I think Vicky is going to come

849
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: back much more as the dim mother. And I think

850
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: Vicky is going to provide this levity to the show

851
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: that allows these other women to get past things quicker.

852
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: You cannot bring Vicky back without having Tamara and Shannon

853
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: next to her.

854
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: You just can't do it. So Shannon another season, I

855
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: don't know.

856
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: I think they could. I think they could either have

857
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: Tamara or Shannon, because here's the problem. Shannon and Camera

858
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: have such a such a beef and even at the

859
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: end of the reunion, you could just tell they are

860
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: so annoyed with each other, and this whole season it

861
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 4: was like Tamara kept trying and Shannon was having no

862
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: goal with it. I don't know, I feel like they

863
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: might even be that bold Bravo might be that bold

864
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 4: to bring Vicky on and only either Tamra or Shannon.

865
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 4: I think there's a world and this is the other problem, Carlos.

866
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 4: Shannon doesn't have a storyline, and she brought my name

867
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Speaker 4: up Agin at the reunion. The only thing she has

868
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: to talk about is John and me and her dog. Like,

869
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: she doesn't have a storyline. So so I don't know

870
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 4: how I mean, aside from just the rekindling of getting

871
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: back with Tamara and having a friendship Agin, it's like

872
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: she's boring. So I don't know. I see a world

873
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: where they could they could bring just one of those

874
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: two back.

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00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: Now you got me thinking some more. Maybe Shannon is

876
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: the friend of.

877
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: I mean, she has maybe enough of a storyline to

878
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: be that, you know.

879
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I love to be clear, I'm only

880
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: interested in Shannon because of Vickie and Tamara. That's it

881
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: without them. I agree with you if Vicky.

882
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: If Vicky was not coming back on the show this season,

883
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: I believe Shannon would have been gone.

884
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't see them getting rid of Shannon completely. I

885
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: do a group with you, though.

886
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: To pay her that much money and she does nothing,

887
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: I think it's old real fast. So maybe a friend of,

888
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe a friend of.

889
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: And then that would make that would that would make

890
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 4: more sense because then Tamar, you know, would hopefully would stay,

891
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: which I'm even thinking after watching that reunion. I hate

892
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: to be honest, Carlos, but that's what we do. We

893
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: talk our opinion, and we have a right to our opinion.

894
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: I see a world where they might even be trying

895
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: to push Tamra out. I don't know why, but after

896
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 4: that reunion, I was just like, I think they might

897
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: even not the girls. I'm thinking maybe Bravos wanting to

898
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: push Tamra out, like maybe Tamor's going to be a

899
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: friend of. I mean, I don't know how you can

900
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 4: have the twentieth season without her, though, I just don't

901
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: because she's carried the show for so many years, like

902
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: her or hater, she's carried the show for so many years.

903
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: So I don't know it's gonna be. Yeah, and I say,

904
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 4: I'm very I'm on the edge of my seat waiting

905
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: to hear. I want to know.

906
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

907
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: I just I think you can't you just listen number one?

908
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: I just I I look at it from like a

909
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: promotional marketing standpoint. I just I cannot see Tamor not

910
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: being on the show this season with Vicki coming back,

911
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: I think all of that could have maybe been plausible

912
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: based on how she was railroaded meeting Tamra at this reunion.

913
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: Bicky getting that Orange, I was like, Oh, okay, good,

914
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: I think she's safe.

915
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 4: I definitely want to see more of their goofy stuff

916
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: in banter together, because you know, I've been friends with

917
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: them since the first time, my first season that I

918
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: was on, and they are just a hoot to be

919
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: around and and i mean, yeah, their fights get pretty deep,

920
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: and yeah they cut each other, but you know, but

921
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 4: then they put the band aids on too. So it's

922
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 4: just I don't know, it's gonna be good. It's gonna

923
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: be a good season if they're both on, for sure.

924
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking forward to it. I want to

925
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: lab listen. I have been watching OC since season one, and.

926
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: I've always said there was something special about OC because

927
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: the way you ladies knew how to navigate your friendships

928
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: in a way that yes conflicted at times. But I've

929
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: always said this, and I'm going record saying this, I

930
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: always felt like one thing OC had again, one thing

931
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: OC had that the other shows had a hard time

932
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: getting you guys did conflict resolution.

933
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 2: Very well, very well.

934
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna be like it's gonna be like

935
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: Miami or Jersey if you don't. I mean, that's the

936
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: problem is, that's that's kind of where I think both

937
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 4: Shannon and Tamra messed up, as if they both wanted

938
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: to have a you know, definitely have a seat, like

939
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: they needed to kind of make up somehow through the season,

940
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: but they were just so Tamor did try I mean

941
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: from what I from what I viewed, I think it

942
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: looks like tamar did try it. It made an attempt

943
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 4: to try to, and I think Shannon was just stone

944
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: cold on that. But you know, Miami's cast is such

945
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: a mess right now. I think they are close to

946
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: ending up like Jersey. I think, you know what happened

947
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 4: with Jersey. It got too much of a mess. It's

948
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 4: like OC is the longest running. They've got to keep

949
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: the conflict resolution firm, like strong amongst each other.

950
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: No, it's true, it's true, true, and they're going to

951
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: have to do that. So look, I am looking forward

952
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: to putting this season to bid. Thank you all for listen.

953
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Whether you guys love it, or hate it, it was

954
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: definitely a season worth talking about and recapping. And I

955
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: want to give a special shout out to my friend

956
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: Alexis Janssen for saying yes to truly, truly having the

957
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: best time with me to do these recaps. I love

958
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: the fact that the world got a chance to see

959
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: what I see in you, which is you are a smart, fun,

960
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: special woman. You're beautiful inside and out. I can't thank

961
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: you enough for these recaps. I don't want this to end.

962
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: I'll be speaking to your team later, but I've had

963
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: the best time with you, and I'll go and breakfast

964
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: saying this. I could not have done these OC recaps

965
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: about you. It wouldn't have been as fun and a

966
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: joy for me. So thank you, my friend.

967
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: Yay, it's been so much fun. You can add quirky

968
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: to that. Everyone knows I'm quirky, so you could add

969
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: your long listener like, it's okay to say quirky and

970
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: kind of dizzy. Sometimes it's all good. I own it.

971
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: So but it's been a blast. I had so much

972
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: fun with you, and I didn't realize how fun it

973
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: would be to get up at five am sometimes and

974
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: have to do this.

975
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: On a Friday, no less.

976
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: Some mornings we're starting so early and we're sitting there laughing,

977
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 4: starting at the crack of dawn, and I'm like, how

978
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: this is so fun? So anyways, I love you, rain

979
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: Drops and it's been a blast. So I hope to

980
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: see you guys soon or talk to you you know

981
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: yet a voice, find some other moments with you.

982
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: Guys the moment and thank you and shout out to Spencer.

983
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: Shout out to Spencer, who is like the man behind

984
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: the MEU. So we make you Spencer for making this.

985
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: Happen so right drop look, let Alexis and I know

986
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Part three o C reunion.

987
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Are we on the money? Are we off the grid?

988
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: Regardless, we appreciate your feedback hashtag Reality with the King.

989
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: Let us know the comments and we will see you

990
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: guys again.

991
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: Bye.

992
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

993
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz.

994
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: And a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.

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