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Speaker 1: that disappointing season and what's next on this Arroyo Grande.

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Speaker 1: Regret subscribing to this channel. Harrison Bucker is the place

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Speaker 1: kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs, a devoted father, husband,

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Speaker 1: interesting stories in professional sports today. And though he kicks

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Speaker 1: and even went after online betting. We met up at

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Speaker 1: his new Shepherd's Men's clothing store in Dallas, Texas. Here's

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Speaker 1: Harrison Butker. I didn't realize you were drafted out of

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Speaker 1: any gameplay. How did you what went on inside of

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Speaker 1: the big moment, right and they didn't use you at all?

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Speaker 3: Right, But yeah, I got invited to training camp and

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Speaker 3: But then the Chiefs came thirteen days later. Great opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Well it was week four of the NFL season, so wow, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: How did you keep yourself in the game if you will,

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Speaker 3: Well, the head coach in the GM brought me in

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Speaker 3: but let's just have you develop for a whole year.

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Speaker 3: So when they told me that, I was thinking, all right,

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Speaker 1: How do you do how do you calm those nerves

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: And as coach Reid says, you know, you don't want

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Speaker 1: You've done it right Wednesday for you, right right? Tell

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Speaker 2: This season was.

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Speaker 1: Six and eleven, the first time the Chiefs have missed

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Speaker 1: So you think this pause in the Dynasty is carrying

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I've always said the thing that struck me

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Speaker 1: They don't This season was rough though, I mean you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you signed the largest contract in the NFL for

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Speaker 1: Because it didn't hit that level that Frankly, you'd been

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Speaker 3: I Mean it sounds odd to say, but sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: I'm just finish my ninth season, so maybe the preparation

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Speaker 3: So you know, with every year you have to look

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Speaker 1: But you're not worried about your future with the team.

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Speaker 2: No. Obviously, I'm a husband and father.

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Speaker 3: First, I'm going to be the best I can for

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Speaker 3: the day, there's one person that has to be the leader.

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Speaker 3: And that's how any good functioning, well functioning organization works,

441
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Speaker 3: and the family is no different. There has to be

442
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Speaker 3: one head that is in charge. It makes the final

443
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Speaker 3: decision for everything. But obviously I'm not a dictator, but

444
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day it can be sometimes

445
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Speaker 3: be like fingers on the chalkboard. The man has to

446
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Speaker 3: make the decisions at the end of the day. He

447
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Speaker 3: has to listen to his wife obviously and in all

448
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Speaker 3: arguments and all opinions, but he has to be the

449
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Speaker 3: one to make the decision.

450
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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day that's a tough job.

451
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Speaker 3: He's got to be accountable for everything, just as the

452
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Speaker 3: head coach is accountable for everything that goes on. It

453
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Speaker 3: could be the running backs coach fault for something. It

454
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Speaker 3: comes back on the head coach. So there's a lot

455
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Speaker 3: of responsibility and authority that comes with that, and it's

456
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Speaker 3: not an easy thing. But again, if I could recommend anything,

457
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Speaker 3: it's just try it. Try it for six months. Let

458
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Speaker 3: the man be the head of the household. See how

459
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Speaker 3: that changes your marriage.

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Speaker 1: H So you but you all discuss things and work

461
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Speaker 1: through things, and then you're the final word. Is that

462
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Speaker 1: what you're saying?

463
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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 3: Of course, I mean I trust her for a lot

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Speaker 3: of things, and she spends more time at the home

466
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Speaker 3: and with the children than I do, so I really

467
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Speaker 3: trust her intuition, and we agree on the majority of things. Right,

468
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, there

469
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Speaker 3: can be two heads. That doesn't make sense in any

470
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Speaker 3: other organization, So why does it make sense in a family?

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Speaker 1: Now? Your mom, your mom, Elizabeth right right, was a

472
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Speaker 1: very accomplished old now and world renowned doctor at Ambery.

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to get this right, A clinical

474
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Speaker 1: medical physician, right right, well, physicists, sorry, your mom Elizabeth

475
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Speaker 1: was a clinical medical physicist at Emory, renowned right right.

476
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Speaker 1: So women heard that statement and thought, now, wait a minute, right,

477
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Speaker 1: he was raised by this very competent, incredible woman. You know,

478
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Speaker 1: she made a name for herself, and now he's arguing

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Speaker 1: for something different. So my question is A, how did

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Speaker 1: that square in your mind? And B what moms say

481
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Speaker 1: about this speech?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, well, number one, I think it is

483
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Speaker 3: optimal for the wife to be at home with the children.

484
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Speaker 3: I think that's optimal. But again, that's not feasible for

485
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Speaker 3: every situation. Yeah, and my parents decided that that wasn't

486
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Speaker 3: feasible in their situation. But you know, my mom thinks

487
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Speaker 3: it's hilarious how every month it seemed after that speech

488
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Speaker 3: she became just a more world renowned you know, physicists,

489
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Speaker 3: you know, the smartest woman to ever walk the earth.

490
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Speaker 3: But no, she could have easily been a doctor. My

491
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Speaker 3: mom is so so smart, and I'm so thankful for

492
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Speaker 3: how she raised me and my sister.

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Speaker 2: I'm so thankful for her.

494
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Speaker 3: She could have been a doctor, and she chose to

495
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Speaker 3: be a physicist so she could have more days at

496
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Speaker 3: home and not work five days a week. So she

497
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Speaker 3: made sacrifices to be present. She sacrificed so much for

498
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Speaker 3: my family. But again, it's not possible for everyone, and

499
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Speaker 3: every couple has to make that decision, right, right, it's

500
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Speaker 3: different for everyone. But I love my mother. She loves me,

501
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Speaker 3: and she's so happy about the speech.

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Speaker 1: Well, she was happy about the speech.

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Speaker 2: Oh, of course, of course she was happy.

504
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Speaker 3: Because there's just this this feeling among so many women,

505
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Speaker 3: Like I'm not out here just writing the speech on

506
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Speaker 3: my own. I hear all these women around me who

507
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Speaker 3: are very highly educated, and they go, you know what,

508
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Speaker 3: maybe I didn't need to do so much school, and

509
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Speaker 3: maybe I didn't need to spend all that time on

510
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Speaker 3: my career. I just felt pressure to. I felt like

511
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Speaker 3: I had to prove it that I could handle that.

512
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Speaker 3: And I find this is them saying, I find way

513
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Speaker 3: more fulfillment being present with my family, and I wish

514
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Speaker 3: I spend more time with my children.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we all everybody wants what they don't have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think the temptation for men is I got

517
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Speaker 1: to do the work. I gotta build the empire. I

518
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Speaker 1: gotta get the money, I gotta build, I gotta provide, right,

519
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Speaker 1: and you miss out on yes, men as well with

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Speaker 1: your children and with your family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, don't. I don't. None of us

522
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Speaker 2: want to have those regrets we get older. No, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't and and inevitably there are times where your

524
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Speaker 1: career pulls you in directions that you need to provide

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Speaker 1: to the family. It's hard, but if possible, you don't

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Speaker 1: want those regrets. Bill Maher said something interesting. He cided, recently,

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Speaker 1: do you see this?

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Okay. He cited the far left outrage over your promotion

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Speaker 1: of God and family, and he said, this is why

531
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Speaker 1: I hate those people. Okay, what does this tell us

532
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Speaker 1: about the alleged divide in American life? I mean, Bill

533
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Speaker 1: Maher has no children, by the way, he's not married.

534
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Speaker 1: Yet he recognizes this guy is saying something right that

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Speaker 1: should at least be allowed to be said and heard

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Speaker 1: without the attack.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say, I think the left has gone

538
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Speaker 3: so far left that a lot of people are recognizing

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Speaker 3: that and saying I don't even want to you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe someone like Bill Maher, who is not conservative and

541
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Speaker 3: would be considered left, he's saying, I don't want to

542
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Speaker 3: be a part of that like crazy talent over there.

543
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Speaker 3: So you know, I try not to pay attention to

544
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Speaker 3: what's you know, being said about me. Right, But that's

545
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Speaker 3: really interesting, and I think so many people that maybe

546
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Speaker 3: disagreed with what I said in that speech. They saw

547
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Speaker 3: the outcry from it, and they're like, why is this

548
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Speaker 3: so intense towards what this gentleman said.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it was.

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Speaker 1: Just it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, right right.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing the NFL Vice president come out and say,

553
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Speaker 1: these are not the these are not the quote it,

554
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Speaker 1: these are not the views of the NFL. Yet the

555
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: league embraces all kinds of things, Harry, right, did you

556
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Speaker 1: feel singled out?

557
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Speaker 3: I was surprised that they said that, you know, but

558
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Speaker 3: I understand that they there's different agendas that they push,

559
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Speaker 3: different agendas that they don't push. And I think it

560
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Speaker 3: was comforting to know that so many coaches and players across.

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Speaker 2: The league agreed with what I said.

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Speaker 3: And really after that speech that whole season, so many

563
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: guys on opposing teams and coaches would come up to

564
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Speaker 3: me and say, Harrison, that was a great speech.

565
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Speaker 2: Thank you for speaking up.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the truth is the truth, and like

567
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Speaker 3: you said, the truth doesn't change.

568
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Speaker 2: The eternal doesn't change.

569
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Speaker 3: We change and move around it, and we should be

570
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Speaker 3: centered on what is true.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the NFL is not fair and consistent

572
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Speaker 1: when it comes to these agendas outside of the sport

573
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Speaker 1: that they kind of choose favorites and then they exclude others.

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Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of organizations do that.

575
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Speaker 3: But you know, you maybe pick what's popular and this

576
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Speaker 3: day and age, and then you kind of blow with

577
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Speaker 3: the win as it goes.

578
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Speaker 1: But it makes no business sense, Harrison. I mean, the

579
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Speaker 1: people in the people paying for these very expensive seats,

580
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Speaker 1: they're family people and they agree with you, right, They

581
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Speaker 1: don't like all of this social activism Franklin.

582
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Speaker 2: And maybe the NFL is understanding that.

583
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: Maybe the NFL is changing hopefully, but again, we got

584
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: to speak the truth. And the people that maybe are

585
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Speaker 3: the outcasts that have the crazy traditional views, I think

586
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Speaker 3: they should speak up more so others can go. You

587
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: know what, maybe this isn't a unique opinion. Maybe more

588
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Speaker 3: people hold this position than we think.

589
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Speaker 1: As an athlete, are you concerned? We saw it at

590
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Speaker 1: the Olympics. We see it occasionally in other sports, hockey, NFL,

591
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Speaker 1: the tennis, where sports athletes use their platform to push

592
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Speaker 1: political agendas and ideology. Are you worried that that ideology

593
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Speaker 1: and the politics is swamping the game itself for audiences

594
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Speaker 1: and carving them up.

595
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Speaker 2: No. I think that's a that's a good point.

596
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: A lot of people just want to watch the athletes

597
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: perform and they want to see the drama of it

598
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: and the wins and the losses and all those things.

599
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

600
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Speaker 3: I struggle with that because as a Catholic, as a Christian,

601
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Speaker 3: you know, I want to bring praise and attention to

602
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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.

603
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Speaker 2: So the certain people could say, why is he doing that?

604
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Speaker 3: You know, he's dividing. So I think everyone's trying to

605
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Speaker 3: push there.

606
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ is bigger than politics. He's not a Democrat

607
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: or a republic right, So, I mean, but I'm talking

608
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Speaker 1: about partisan politics, a particular issue, a policy that becomes

609
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Speaker 1: this torch that is carried instead of the Olympic torch

610
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Speaker 1: that everybody wants. That's my concern, and I wonder if

611
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Speaker 1: does that weigh on you at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm out of touch because I didn't even

613
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Speaker 3: watch any of the Olympics, But no, I agree because

614
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Speaker 3: politics can be such a game unfortunately, and like you said,

615
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: Christ is eternal.

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Speaker 2: We know that is the truth. And a lot of.

617
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Speaker 3: Times the people that are pushing the politics, I mean,

618
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Speaker 3: how educated they are they on those matters? And that's

619
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Speaker 3: what I talked about in the speech. You know, I'm

620
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Speaker 3: no theologian. When I talk about the faith, I try

621
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Speaker 3: to be very careful. I can speak about my lived faith,

622
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Speaker 3: my live faith, and being a husband and father for

623
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Speaker 3: my family because that's what I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about sports betting. I mean they are now,

625
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Speaker 1: they are now advertising this in the middle of your games.

626
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Speaker 1: I was watching the Kansas City Chiefs game last season.

627
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Speaker 1: There's nothing but sports bet the whole sal life. As

628
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Speaker 1: a man of faith. Your thoughts on this and what

629
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Speaker 1: it's doing to young men. Is this a good thing?

630
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a good thing. I'm not

631
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Speaker 2: a fan at all.

632
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean I felt like it used to be looked

633
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Speaker 3: down upon ten years ago, and now it's commonplace and

634
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: everyone's taking part in it. I mean I don't take

635
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: part in it, and I think it's really done a

636
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: lot of harm to the game. Well, you can look

637
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: at it both ways. There's more money now in sports

638
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: because of it, more people are watching. But I think

639
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: a lot of people's lives are getting ruined because of it.

640
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Speaker 1: And young men. You see the number of young men

641
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: they just sit there with their fone. They're betting on what.

642
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Speaker 2: Jersey you're wearing, right, exactly what waiter?

643
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: It is crazy and I just worry that you're you're

644
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: it's no longer about the game. It's about betting on

645
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: the game at home, right, And I realize you can

646
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: make a lot of money that way, but what does

647
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Speaker 1: that do to the sport itself?

648
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: Well, then you got the issues with you know the rest.

649
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: Are they fixing the games and the players and all

650
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: these things. There's a lot going on, you know. I

651
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: try to stick to just kicking the football. Yeah, I'm

652
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: not a fan of it at all, and I don't

653
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: try to promote it.

654
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Speaker 1: How do you mentally prepare going into the twenty twenty

655
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Speaker 1: six season? Spiritually prepare? I mean, given the rough season

656
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Speaker 1: you had, what are you doing now in anticipation of the.

657
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Speaker 3: Full Well, I have four children now, being present for them,

658
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: focusing on my marriage strengthening and me growing closer to

659
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: my wife and being.

660
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: A better husband for her.

661
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: And then obviously on the football side, you're always trying

662
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: to evaluate what can you do better, what can you change?

663
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's always evolving.

664
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: And you know I've had bad seasons before. You know,

665
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: ideally your bad seasons are pretty are ideally pretty decent.

666
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, sometimes you just got to keep chopping wood,

667
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: kick going well.

668
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: And as you said early on, the setback actually can

669
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: help you grow and reach a higher plateau than you

670
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: ever managed, higher peak than you ever managed.

671
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work out and you're praying for

672
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: God's will to be done, move on with your life, right,

673
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: Roll with it, Yeah.

674
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Roll with it. Tell me about Shepherds. I want to

675
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: return to Shepherds again. I know you open the store

676
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: in Kansas City a few years ago. Now you're opening

677
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: one in Dallas. I know their plans for other stores.

678
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: What was the vision of this, Why did you want

679
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: to be a part of this and have a men's store,

680
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: And where did the name Shepherds come from?

681
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: So in college for games, we would always wear sweats,

682
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, home and away games. And you know I

683
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 3: add maybe one or two suits for weddings or receptions.

684
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: When I was in college, so not a lot.

685
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: But then you go to the NFL and coach read

686
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: at least at the time nine years ago, said everyone

687
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: needs to be in.

688
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: A suit and tie when you get off the plane.

689
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you get off.

690
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: The plane when it's a business trip, all away games,

691
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: suit and tie, and there were guys on the team that,

692
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, they had custom.

693
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Tailors, and so I.

694
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: Got into suits and I went around to different companies

695
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: and I've started to really enjoy the suits.

696
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: I realized how it made me.

697
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: Act differently, and then I thought, you know, I'm really

698
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: enjoying this, and you know, this could be a good

699
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: business model to maybe open up a store. And so

700
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: a great team got formed together and we opened open

701
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: Shepherds in Kansas City officially and twenty twenty four and

702
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: now we have our second store in Dallas, and it's

703
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: been such a joy because you know, we're really I think,

704
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: changing and helping to push society to bring back, you know,

705
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: standards of dress. You know, men that are detailed with

706
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: how they present themselves, bringing order to society. And you know,

707
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: I've really just enjoyed Shepherds, and I think we have

708
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: such a high ceiling and ability to grow beyond just

709
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: even two locations.

710
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: And these are custom made suits. They're made for every

711
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: man that comes in the door.

712
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, custom made and obviously being six', four you, know

713
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: IF i get like An excel that you know fits

714
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: my torso it's way too big in, here and then

715
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: there's just so many. Issues that custom for me has been.

716
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: GREAT i know there's some people you.

717
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Have to do it because you're like big shoulders and

718
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: then you're smallen right right, RIGHT i always they never

719
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: fit with the rack, right just doesn't.

720
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: Work you got to be patient for the garment to

721
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: arrive because it takes a couple of. Weeks but if

722
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: you got the, PATIENCE i think when you get a custom,

723
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: garment it just it's made for you and it just

724
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: changes the way you.

725
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Walk and people don't know. THIS i didn't know it

726
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: UNTIL i you, know and my fox buys my, suit

727
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: so you know they've been made the whole Time i've been.

728
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: There there is something about that canvas when it the

729
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: interior of these suits all the way down is, canvas,

730
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: right other suits it's just partially but a, canvas that

731
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: canvas starts to shape and move to your, mold to

732
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: your body and, time and it does fit and feel

733
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: like it's a part of, you as opposed to something

734
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: you grab off the.

735
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Rack that's just kind of.

736
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i think we live in such a throwaway

737
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: culture where you get something, okay this is, okay you,

738
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: know for a, year couple of, times throw it, out

739
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: instead of getting a timeless garment that's, gonna as you,

740
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: said grow with, you fit properly and something that maybe

741
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: you even passed down TO uh to a. Child but

742
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: buying quality garments that are gonna last a long.

743
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: TIME i think that's what we should.

744
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: Do invest in how we present ourselves instead of just

745
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: doing the fast fashion getting an, item wear it a

746
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: couple of, times throw it.

747
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Away, yeah, OKAY i have to subject you now to

748
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: the arroyo grande. Question, okay it's a fire. Questions you're, ready, Ready,

749
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Okay i'll hold the ball for. You what's the best

750
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: advice you ever?

751
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: Received the best ADVICE i ever, Received i'd say golden,

752
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: rule doing to others as you would have them doing to.

753
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: You who's the person you most, admire most admire besides Our? Lord,

754
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: yes that's always the. DEFAULT i have to put him,

755
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: aside But, jesus we love. You, wow that's a great,

756
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: question the most who's the person you most admire in

757
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: public life in?

758
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: Private in public, LIFE.

759
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

760
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: KNOW i will Say i'll Say.

761
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: TRUMP i know that might be controversial because obviously there's

762
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: things that he says THAT i don't agree. With but

763
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: for a man to be so successful outside of, politics

764
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: come into, politics be disliked and hated and, ridiculed and

765
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: to stay strong throughout that whole, period you, know to get,

766
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: arrested all the things that he's gone, through and still

767
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: to uh to focus on the mission and stay you,

768
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: know ideally level. Headed I've i've really admired his leadership less.

769
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: A couple of.

770
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: Years, yeah who do you? Despise who DO i?

771
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: DESPISE i try not to despise. Anybody see all.

772
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: The good guys answer. That, yeah that's that's that's a

773
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Good i'm gonna let that. Sit. Yeah what do you

774
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: know that few others know or don't know at? All?

775
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: Wow what DO i?

776
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Know my? Goodness but what have you learned that most

777
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: people ignore or have?

778
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: FORGOTTEN i think most people will get to this, Again

779
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: i'm only thirty years. Old but there's so much more

780
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: to life than our looks and our job and our.

781
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: Career you, know watching these old time movies and you

782
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: see these beautiful actors and you know they're well, spoken

783
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: they do a great, job and then you look them

784
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: up and you see what they look like before they,

785
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: died and they're dead.

786
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: NOW i, mean all of this is.

787
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: Passing you, know everything turns to dust and to. Rust

788
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 3: so why do we put so much time and attention on, these,

789
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: like you, know small things that don't really matter in

790
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: the grand scheme of. Things why aren't we focusing on our,

791
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: families the legacy that we're going to leave our, children

792
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: all of those, Things our relationship with Our, lord where

793
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: we stand with our, salvation all those things matter so

794
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: much more than you, know all of these, small little

795
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: career oriented things that we spend so much time worrying.

796
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: About Mother Angelica, adeline she used to, say everybody drags

797
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: his own carcass to. Market that's kind of great. Idea that's.

798
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: Great you, know whatever you, did you got to drag.

799
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: It it's going to be judged at the. End what

800
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: is your greatest? Fear greatest?

801
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: FEAR i, think you, KNOW i think maybe if you're Not,

802
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: catholic maybe this sounds. Odd but when we die and

803
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: look Our lord in his, eyes his beautiful, eyes like

804
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: we're going to see all of our sins and maybe

805
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: we weren't even aware, of we will be. Judged and you,

806
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 3: know we only have so much time on this, earth

807
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: right but this is our opportunity to discover, him to know.

808
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: Him, like we're not.

809
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Slaves god could have, easily Our lord could have easily

810
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: made us slaves and everyone goes to.

811
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: Heaven but we have that.

812
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 3: Choice every decision we make is a choice For god

813
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: or not For. God and so you, know with this

814
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: short life THAT i, have that we, HAVE i want

815
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: to grow in virtue and, ideally you, know be able

816
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: to look into Our lord's eyes and he can, say well,

817
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: done my good and faithful, servant and we can spend

818
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: eternity with.

819
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: Him what is your greatest? Regret greatest?

820
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: Regret, THANKFULLY i don't have a ton of, regrets BUT

821
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: i WISH i got married.

822
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: Earlier AND i got married at twenty.

823
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: Two twenty TWO i met my wife fact, CHECK i

824
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: might have been twenty one around.

825
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: There i'm. Bad i'm bad with. Dates but, anyways we

826
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: met in middle.

827
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: School we started dating in high, school and you, know

828
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: it's kind of taboo to get married and while you're in.

829
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: College AND i THINK i would have said forget.

830
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: That for my.

831
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: CHILDREN i want them to get. Married if you found the,

832
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: one and you, know go ahead and get. Married SO

833
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: i wish you got married. Young but, AGAIN i, Mean

834
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: i'm so grateful for my life and everything that, Happened

835
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: BUT i do think Our lord probably wanted me to

836
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: get married younger twenty.

837
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Two that's look you Get you're getting the full inning.

838
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Here let me just tell You i'm married at twenty,

839
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: four so we're in the same. Neighborhood but, YEAH i

840
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: THINK i think you're. Right it's also there's something that

841
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: happens in time where your lives intertwine in a. Way

842
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: now you have so many memories that go so far, back,

843
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: right it's. Beautiful that is a that is a lovely

844
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: thing to carry into the. Future what happens when this is,

845
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: over when life is. OVER i let you interpret that

846
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: the way you.

847
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: Will when life is, over LIKE i, said we're meeting

848
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: Our lord face to face and we get. Judged we

849
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: see all of our, sins and Our lord is obviously As.

850
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: God we won't, argue we won't, Disagree we'll see it

851
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: clearly and GO i, agree heaving our. Help so that's

852
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: what's going to happen when when all of this is,

853
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: over and when football is. OVER i don't, KNOW i don't.

854
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: Know i'll have to take some time to think about.

855
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: It there's so many things THAT i enjoy AND i

856
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: would like to, do but, well we'll.

857
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: See i'd like to play for a long long. Time, Really,

858
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't. KNOW i mean there's many.

859
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: Things, obviously you, know politics crosses my mind obviously doing

860
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: What i'm doing, now but except more, intensely you, know

861
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: with entrepreneurship With. Mt keller and looking at different companies

862
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: and how do we shape society and push you, Know christian,

863
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: Values catholic values into into the. World but, AGAIN i

864
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: spend so much time on, football so because of, THAT

865
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: i need to make SURE i can't spend all this

866
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: time on these secondary things and obviously the.

867
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: FAMILY i got to be there for.

868
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: Yourself, yeah it's a balancing. Act and you're under such

869
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: public scrutiny and you're in the middle of the glare

870
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: right right. Now that's hard when you're thirty and you've

871
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: got all these lives depending on.

872
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: It i'm just trying to, learn you.

873
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, oh you're doing a good. Job AND i

874
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: hope when we face that, Judgment i'm wearing one of

875
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Speaker 1: your shepherd's Suit.

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