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Speaker 1: House Cours Monica, Page Monica. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: We're good, Joe, Bob. We're hanging in there. It is hot,

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Speaker 2: for America, that we start bringing some money back into

430
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Speaker 2: our countries and helping you know, truly the Americans. But

431
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Speaker 2: I mean, inflation is there's no doubt. You go to

432
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Speaker 2: the grocery store, there's things that are still up and

433
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Speaker 2: there's a lot that's come down. I mean, they've done

434
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Speaker 2: a good job at bringing some of the like price

435
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Speaker 2: of groceries down. But is it still up? Yes, But

436
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Speaker 2: does inflation impact us year over year? Is that a

437
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Speaker 2: normal thing? It is? And people like you said, tend

438
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Speaker 2: to forget about that. You look at a housing market

439
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Speaker 2: is housing markets still up a little bit, but it's

440
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Speaker 2: starting to come down. I think there's a lot of

441
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Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts to this, and we really

442
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Speaker 2: need to just see how this ultimately plays out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and regardless what happens, the lids will say no

444
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Speaker 1: Trump bad, Orange Man bad. We hate everything he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of Trump, and I'm actually really curious

446
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Speaker 1: to get your take on this. I'm gonna try to

447
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Speaker 1: sound as as not gay as possible, but Steve, you're

448
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Speaker 1: you're as masculine of a man physically that I think

449
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Speaker 1: anybody I know I would not want to run into

450
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Speaker 1: you in a dark alley having wronged someone else. You know,

451
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Speaker 1: part of that kind of is is how men deal

452
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Speaker 1: with certain things. And last week nobody was a stranger

453
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Speaker 1: to the big blow up between Elon Musk and President Trump.

454
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Speaker 1: Last night. In a tweet must apologize, he said, I

455
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Speaker 1: regret some of my posts about President Donald Trump last week.

456
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Speaker 1: They went too far. And that's after he deleted his

457
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Speaker 1: post about the Epstein files. Trump then responded, I'm glad

458
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Speaker 1: he did that. So I don't know of two bigger

459
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Speaker 1: personalities and more kind of rough and tumble guys and

460
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Speaker 1: they seem to be, you know, working it out and

461
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Speaker 1: hopefully they can kind of come back to the table

462
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Speaker 1: as a as a guy in kind of this masculine space.

463
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Speaker 1: You know, what do arguments look like? Because a bunch

464
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Speaker 1: of people freaked out about this, I was kind of like, yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: this is these are two heavy weights duking it out

466
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Speaker 1: and eventually they'll figure it out, which I think is

467
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Speaker 1: a big component of masculinity. The libs generally love to

468
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Speaker 1: kind of ignore that part. It's just toxic and awful. No,

469
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Speaker 1: but this is how you solve problems, and problems eventually

470
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Speaker 1: get resolved.

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Speaker 2: Agree. I agree. And I think in today's day and age,

472
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Speaker 2: everybody feels like the keyboard warriors, I call it. You know,

473
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Speaker 2: they can make a comment and threaten somebody not being

474
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Speaker 2: you know, being threatened a bit, hit in the face

475
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Speaker 2: or smashed. I remember, you know, we didn't have that

476
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Speaker 2: back in the day, but if you made a comment

477
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Speaker 2: to somebody that ticked them off, you might get hit

478
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Speaker 2: in the face, punching the face, and that was that

479
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 2: was justice back then. And but nowadays, you know, people

480
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Speaker 2: are a little bit more confident in their abilities because

481
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Speaker 2: they the keyboard warrior effect but like you said, who

482
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Speaker 2: knew two billionaires could beef harder than rappers? And it

483
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: looks like, you know, this could be the start of

484
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Speaker 2: a tech billionaire redemption tour. Who knows. But I think

485
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Speaker 2: I think was it a good look overall? No, I

486
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: think there could have been a better way for them

487
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Speaker 2: to do it. And clearly, you know, Elon got his

488
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Speaker 2: panties in a bunch with some of the bills that

489
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Speaker 2: were being passed and different things being talked about, and

490
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Speaker 2: I understand, but at the end of the day, like

491
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: you got to be a little bit more of a

492
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Speaker 2: man behind it. And I really think like for him

493
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Speaker 2: to think that he's going to go against the MAGA

494
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Speaker 2: movement not a good move. Like the MAGA movement is

495
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Speaker 2: so strong, regardless of it if it's Trump or whatever.

496
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Speaker 2: But like everybody is so like, want to see America

497
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Speaker 2: be great again, want to see America be prosperous, do

498
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Speaker 2: all these things if you're going to come at us

499
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Speaker 2: as Americans, because that's our guy, Like you know what,

500
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: that's the guy flying the plane right now. And if

501
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Speaker 2: you're on the plane, scream and I hope you crashed

502
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Speaker 2: the plane. That's the we're gonna kick your ass off

503
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Speaker 2: the plane. Let's just be how it is. But at

504
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Speaker 2: this point, like we have to the Americans, the maga

505
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: got the maga. People that are pro America are behind

506
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Speaker 2: Trump and somebody kind of against him. Clearly, if it's

507
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: more of a little beef, We're going to take Trump's

508
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Speaker 2: side on this. And uh, you know, I think Trump

509
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Speaker 2: did did pretty good because I think some of the

510
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: things said we were way out there and you know,

511
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Speaker 2: not necessarily like there was a lot of proof behind

512
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Speaker 2: some of his stuff. So there was a lot of

513
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Speaker 2: speculation of what was going to be said, what was

514
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Speaker 2: going to be done, and sometimes people put too much

515
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Speaker 2: faith into man, you know, going back to the human component,

516
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: sometimes people put too much faith in a person. But clearly,

517
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Speaker 2: you know, Elon came to his senses, realized he was wrong,

518
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Speaker 2: and this is you know, I think he's doing the

519
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: right thing. By let's squash this, let's coatin to move

520
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Speaker 2: forward in making America great again.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now again, I think everybody even from the beginning,

522
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, they just disagree on something. I think

523
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Speaker 1: they ultimately have the same goal in mind to make

524
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Speaker 1: America great again. But you know, disagreements happen, and thankfully

525
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Speaker 1: resolutions also happened. Steve Kouklo, thanks so much for joining us.

526
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Speaker 1: Really appreciate you taking the time.

527
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Speaker 2: Always love it. Joe Bob, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up next here on turning Point tonight,

529
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Speaker 1: We've got to fascinating clip Maux Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast,

530
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Speaker 1: and then it's Woke Wednesday. Oh cool, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: There is widespread belief that SSRIs cure depression. What is

532
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Speaker 3: the scientific consensus on whether or not SSRIs actually cure depression.

533
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Speaker 5: I think we've had like three decades of marketing tell

534
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Speaker 5: us that anxiety and depression due to chemical imbalances or

535
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Speaker 5: genetic problems in our brain. We have never found that

536
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: this was just a marketing spin that was put out there.

537
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Speaker 5: And researchers have gone and they've collected all of the

538
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Speaker 5: data together and there's no chemical imbalance there. So there's

539
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Speaker 5: no unifying cause of depression. That's why we don't use

540
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Speaker 5: tests in psychiatry. That's why when you go and see doctor,

541
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Speaker 5: even if you go to like Harvard or Yale or

542
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 5: you know, one of these big tertiary medical centers, no

543
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: one's scanning your brain. Or measuring like the neurotransmitter metabolites,

544
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 5: because it just doesn't correlate to anything. So and that's

545
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Speaker 5: important because when we think about what an antidepressant does

546
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 5: is they disrupt your neurotransmitter systems. So like SSRIs, they

547
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 5: block serotonin reuptake to increase the amount of serotonin between

548
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: the neurons. That's not actually fixing any underlying problem because

549
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: an underlying problem like that has never been found for anyone.

550
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Speaker 3: Well, one of my favorite things every single time I

551
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, SSRIs and antidepressants and how they're

552
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Speaker 3: basically placebos and they don't do anything. You know, people

553
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Speaker 3: in my replies are like, how dare you an antidipressence

554
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: save my life? I have a chemical imbalance in my brain.

555
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: And my response to them always is, oh really, how

556
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: do they test for that? What was the test like

557
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: to test for your chemical imbalance? They don't ever reply

558
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: there was no test, it's fake. We're just told that.

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is how the whole thing fits together, right,

561
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 5: because the drugs do work. I mean I've taken them,

562
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Speaker 5: my wife has taken them, and we've experienced their effects

563
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 5: first hand. I know you've taken them as well, and

564
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: you might have experienced a drug effect. They generally tend

565
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Speaker 5: to do a few things. I mean things like lexapro SSRIs.

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Speaker 5: They generally tend to be cause emotional construction or blunting

567
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: or numbing or something along that range. You know, things

568
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: like well beat and can be stimulating. Things like ramaron

569
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Speaker 5: can make people sort of blunted and kind of tired,

570
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 5: but that can be experienced as therapeutic. Like if you're

571
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Speaker 5: a nervous nelly and there's a lot of stuff going

572
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Speaker 5: on in your life, and you take a drug to

573
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: sort of mask that, something that knocks out the highs,

574
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: something that knocks out the lows. Your experience may be

575
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Speaker 5: this is better than what I was feeling before. I

576
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: feel more in control under this drug effect. And yes,

577
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Speaker 5: sure it's not fixing like the underlying problem that you had,

578
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Speaker 5: but it is making you feel better from the drug effect. However,

579
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Speaker 5: when you look at it like that, it also becomes

580
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Speaker 5: really concerning from like a moral perspective, because effectively, what

581
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: we're doing is we're giving someone drugs to mask how

582
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Speaker 5: they feel. And there's all these sort of ramifications.

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Speaker 6: Because we're emotional.

584
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Speaker 5: Beings, right, you know, we care about our relationships with

585
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Speaker 5: others and our friends. You know, we care about the

586
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: work that we do and finding purpose and meaning in

587
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: our lives. If there are genuine things happening in our

588
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 5: life that need to be addressed for us to feel happy,

589
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 5: we don't want to numb those things. We don't want

590
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Speaker 5: to put a damper on those messages that are saying, hey,

591
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 5: you know, something's not quite right, and it doesn't have

592
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: to just be emotional. I mean, there's problems in our

593
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: food at the moment that's making us sick, that's making

594
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: us inflamed, and that's also going to make people feel unwell.

595
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Speaker 5: The real issue is, I mean, we aren't. We have

596
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Speaker 5: a mental health system that doesn't really care about get

597
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Speaker 5: geting to the root causes and helping people. We just

598
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Speaker 5: sort of like paper over over symptoms. And so that

599
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: person in the comments who's just like it really helped me,

600
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 5: Sure it's helped you now. But where I sort of

601
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: come into this is I see what happens like ten

602
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 5: years down the line, twenty years down the line when

603
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Speaker 5: people want to come off. That's like a moment of

604
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Speaker 5: time and masking your sort of like your smoke detector

605
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: in your brain that's telling you like something's not right,

606
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Speaker 5: you know, feel anxious, get curious. You mask that for

607
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Speaker 5: several decades you can end up in a very bad

608
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Speaker 5: place later on.

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Speaker 3: What are the side effects and risks that we're not

610
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Speaker 3: told about whenever we get a prescription for an antidepressant.

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Speaker 5: The main ones that everyone should know and that unfortunately

612
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 5: aren't mentioned is some of these are quite uncommon, but

613
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Speaker 5: they're serious when they happen. So the first one would

614
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Speaker 5: be post SSRI sexual dysfunction. And essentially this is a

615
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Speaker 5: neurological injury that can occur when you're on the medication.

616
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Speaker 5: And typically what happens is someone will take the drug,

617
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Speaker 5: they'll experience sexual dysfunction. It's a very common side effect

618
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Speaker 5: for many antidepressants. I think like like seventy to ninety

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Speaker 5: percent of people will experience a decrease in libido. Men

620
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Speaker 5: will have things like a rectile dysfunction because of it.

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Speaker 5: But when they start to come off the medication, either

622
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Speaker 5: that doesn't get better or it gets worse. There's actually

623
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Speaker 5: something about coming off the drug that damages the nervous

624
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: system even more. And so these people will they'll be

625
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 5: on the drug, they'll have sexual dysfunction, they'll come off,

626
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Speaker 5: it will get worse, and they start to experience genital numbness,

627
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Speaker 5: and so they lose all I guess it's I mean,

628
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: it's called arogenous sensation, but it's just you know, your

629
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Speaker 5: private parts they feel differently than the skin on the

630
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Speaker 5: rest of your body. And they'll say it either feels

631
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Speaker 5: numb like it's had anesthesia, or it feels like the

632
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Speaker 5: sensation on the back of your hand. There's no erogeness

633
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Speaker 5: sense down there that feels good. The men will have

634
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 5: a lot of reptile dysfunction as well, they'll be less

635
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Speaker 5: interested in sex. But the thing that these folks complain

636
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: about even more than the sexual problems, is that they

637
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: feel emotionally blunted and they have some mild cognitive impairments.

638
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: Sometimes actually it's not mild all the time. Sometimes it

639
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: can be bad, and they feel like it's almost like

640
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: their sensory system has been like totally turned down from this,

641
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Speaker 5: and they'll describe things like they're watching their life through

642
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 5: a TV, you know, and they'll lose things like when

643
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Speaker 5: their favorite song comes on on the radio that they

644
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Speaker 5: used to listen to growing up, and you know, you'd

645
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Speaker 5: have this like prickle on the back of your neck

646
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Speaker 5: with just like nostalgia and joy, they'll lose that, you know,

647
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Speaker 5: when they hug their children or when they hug someone

648
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Speaker 5: that they love like a family member, they don't feel

649
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Speaker 5: those those warm emotions anymore. And they describe just walking around,

650
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: you know, they have sexual dysfunction and they're super numb.

651
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Speaker 5: For many people, this doesn't go away. This actually has

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Speaker 5: quite a bad prognosis. A lot of the other things

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Speaker 5: that we may talk about. The prognosis is kind of

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Speaker 5: better and like the withdrawal injuries, but for many people

655
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Speaker 5: with PSSD, yes, some will get better, you know, in

656
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Speaker 5: a couple of years. But there are people that have

657
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Speaker 5: been suffering from this for years, and particularly in the

658
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Speaker 5: United States, people are not told about that. And it's

659
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Speaker 5: in vast contrast to the rest of the world where

660
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Speaker 5: this is in the drug labels and doctors are wanting

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Speaker 5: them about it.

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Speaker 3: Wait, PSSD is not in the drug labels for these

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Speaker 3: in the United.

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Speaker 6: States, PSSD is not in the drug label.

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Speaker 3: I am shocked to hear that. I did not know that.

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Speaker 3: How is that possible?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is going to almost feel like, you know,

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Speaker 5: like that that the matrix scene, you know, where it's like,

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Speaker 5: do you want the red pill or do you want

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Speaker 5: the blue pills?

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Speaker 3: You want the red pill?

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Speaker 6: You want the red pill. Okay, So.

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Speaker 5: I I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry and

675
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Speaker 5: I used to work at the FDA as in the

676
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Speaker 5: Division of Psychiatry. He has a drug regulator. So I've

677
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Speaker 5: kind of seen what happens behind the scenes there. The

678
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 5: whole PSSD thing. I mean, it's been in the literature

679
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Speaker 5: for like twenty years, but around twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 5: David Healy's a psychiatrist in the UK, really great drug

681
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Speaker 5: safety researcher. He got like one hundred people plus who

682
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Speaker 5: had PSSD. He interviewed them, he collected their stories. He

683
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Speaker 5: asked permission from their doctors to say, hey, you know,

684
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Speaker 5: were there any other explanations other than the drugs? The

685
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Speaker 5: doctor said there weren't, and he said, hey, can I

686
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Speaker 5: include your name in this dossier? And then he sent

687
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Speaker 5: it out to all of the medical agencies saying, I

688
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 5: think I've found a new side effect. It's called PSSD.

689
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Speaker 5: It's very serious. And so there's these hundreds of patients

690
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Speaker 5: and these doctors saying that it's real. So it goes

691
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Speaker 5: to the EU, EUOPRUS, it goes to Australia, Australia Prus

692
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Speaker 5: that Hong Kong does, Canada does, and so we have

693
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Speaker 5: all these major drug regulators around the world doing it,

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Speaker 5: and then it comes to the FDA, and the FDA

695
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Speaker 5: puts it on ice. It went in there in twenty

696
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Speaker 5: eighteen and no one picked it up at all. It

697
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: just sort of sat there on the back burner. Now,

698
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Speaker 5: the reason for this is that psychiatrists in the US,

699
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Speaker 5: and this includes psychiatrists in the FDA, they are so

700
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Speaker 5: captured by the pharmaceutical industry that they act more like

701
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 5: advocates for the drug than actual scientists. They don't want

702
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: to find problems with them because it's very uncomfortable and

703
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: inconvenient for them, and so they sort of just like

704
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: let it sit on the side. And they haven't addressed it,

705
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: which is insane if you think about it. They haven't

706
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: even given a response. They got sued recently, but the

707
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: lawsuit got dismissed. People from the PSSD Network along with

708
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 5: another nonprofit, was just like, you guys need to respond

709
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: to this, and you need to do it now. And

710
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: so they're looking into it, but they haven't updated the

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Speaker 5: labelshet because I think it's just going to be embarrassing

712
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Speaker 5: and it's going to make them look very very bad.

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Speaker 3: Well, who cares?

714
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Speaker 4: People are freaking suffering?

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Speaker 3: Does doctor Marty Mcarrie ahead of the FDA? Have you

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Speaker 3: ever spoken to him? Do you know if he knows

717
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Speaker 3: about this?

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00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: But I don't know if he knows about this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well I'll start the ball rolling. I'm going

721
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Speaker 3: to make sure people tell them. Could you explain how

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Speaker 3: the biochemical mechanisms behind SSRIs work in the brain and

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Speaker 3: are these mechanisms fully understood.

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Speaker 5: The way SSRIs work is so they block serotonin reuptake

725
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Speaker 5: and so it increases the amount of serotonin between the neurons.

726
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Speaker 5: And that sounds like very circumscribed and well defined, But

727
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Speaker 5: then there's a whole like you know, serotonin isn't functioning

728
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Speaker 5: like an island on its own in the brain. I

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Speaker 5: mean it's affecting all of our other neurotransmitters, neuropenephyrine, dopamine,

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Speaker 5: estrogen hormones. I mean, we're essentially changing the way the

731
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Speaker 5: brain functions. We don't actually know fully what these drugs

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Speaker 5: are doing.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 6: We don't.

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Speaker 3: I would think, like these have been around for so long,

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Speaker 3: We've done a lot of scientific research on these drugs.

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Speaker 6: It's hot to know.

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Speaker 5: I mean the pot that I think is a lot

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Speaker 5: more concerning in terms of like what we don't know

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Speaker 5: about the drugs is actually what they do.

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Speaker 1: Long time, Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. We're together.

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Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback, which

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Speaker 1: is a course that needs desperately to be charted. And

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Speaker 1: who better to do the charting and turning point? You

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Speaker 1: You can also find out about all of the events.

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Speaker 1: Why b List is happening this weekend. If you're in

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Speaker 1: Dallas or can travel to Dallas within a weekend, you

749
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Speaker 1: should check that out. Unless you're a dude and let

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Speaker 1: me can go. Also, Student Action something happening in Tampa

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Speaker 1: don't miss at tpusa dot com. Also, you can email

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Speaker 1: the show anytime you want tpt at tpusa dot com.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of back I haven't checked the email

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Speaker 1: in a couple of days. There's a bunch that a

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Speaker 1: backlog that I got to get back to. So if

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Speaker 1: I haven't already, or if we haven't we have mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but continue the emailing tpt at tpusa dot

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Speaker 1: com without further ado, because we don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, and I really want to get to this

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Speaker 1: whole thing because it's fascinating, hilarious and interesting all the

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Speaker 1: same time. It is woke Wednesday. Thank you highlighter jacket lady.

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00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: The whole stolen land thing is hilarious, and it's even

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Speaker 1: funnier when it's playing out in real time in the

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Speaker 1: mind of a lib who doesn't know what he's actually

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Speaker 1: talking about. Watch this together, enjoy and laugh. I'll understand

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Speaker 1: where you're coming from, because you gotta take accountability for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: accountability for what systemic problems because this right here, you're

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Speaker 1: occupying indigenous land.

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Speaker 4: Here, you're occupying space on isn't here?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, but I can say the exact same thing

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Speaker 1: to you. You can, and you're occupying this and they

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Speaker 1: should We should be calling out people. Honestly, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be human.

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Speaker 7: We deserve to be robbed.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, take his iPhone take it.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 1: You should be should be what you should be upset

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Speaker 1: with people like me. I am that's why I'm want

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Speaker 1: to rob your dumb ass. Why huh?

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Speaker 3: I mean because you're on indigenous lamb.

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Speaker 1: Not your land, my land, my people's land, because you're

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Speaker 1: talking about it. I could do whatever I please.

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Speaker 4: On my land.

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Speaker 1: Now, get me the phone.

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Speaker 4: I needed to help people.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't you know?

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Speaker 7: I got ten not what wait?

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Speaker 1: Were still on the phone. Let me get the phone

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Speaker 1: and you see those people. You see how well the

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Speaker 1: cycle works. I said I wouldn't take the phone. My

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00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: little on the other end, I didn't say nothing about that.

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Speaker 1: He said he deserves to be robbed.

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love it. I'm gonna start doing that any

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Speaker 1: type somebody says you're this is stolen land. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: probably fit the part. I probably have enough melon in

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Speaker 1: my skin to pass off as a Native American. Uh

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Speaker 1: I could? Okay? Cool, I can do whatever I want.

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Speaker 1: This is my land. Give me your phone. It highlights

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Speaker 1: the rede. You don't even need to make an argument

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00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: when you put it in that God text. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us. Here a turning point tonight, Charlie

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Speaker 1: is gonna take us out. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: tuning in each and every night. We'll see tomorrow, same time,

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Speaker 1: same place. God bless America.

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Speaker 7: I'm wearing the shirt this is what we voted for,

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Speaker 7: which you guys can find at Charlie Kirk dot com

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Speaker 7: because this is what we voted for, and that is

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Speaker 7: actually the theme and the open today, which is the stunning

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Speaker 7: and perplexing politics of immigration. You see, for almost all

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Speaker 7: of my political career and for as long as I

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Speaker 7: have memory, Democrats have had an advantage on immigration. There's

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Speaker 7: issues that they've always had advantages with us over climate, education,

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Speaker 7: and immigration. They almost always have some format advantage. Interestingly enough,

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Speaker 7: education less and less. So remember that election where Governor

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Speaker 7: Younkin won in the Great State of Virginia. He became

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Speaker 7: the governor of Virginia with actual favorability advantage on the

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Speaker 7: issue of education. But on immigration, Democrats have always had

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Speaker 7: us over a barrel by twenty points or thirty points

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Speaker 7: because what did Republicans stand for when it came to immigration?

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Speaker 7: And this is the kicker everybody. If there is just

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Speaker 7: one thing that you remember that I tell you, it

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Speaker 7: is how wrong, how fraudulent, how deceitful. The Jeb Bush,

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Speaker 7: Karl Rove perspective on immigration was can you guys get

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Speaker 7: some of that tape here, Blake or Ryan, now that

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking of it. Back in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 7: we had the Gang of Eight, and yes, Marco Rubio

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Speaker 7: is part of it, and he has come a long way,

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Speaker 7: and I'm Marco Rubio's biggest thing and supporter. But yes,

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Speaker 7: we had the Gang of Eight, and I remember it.

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Speaker 7: This was the first couple of years I was involved

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Speaker 7: in politics, and it was it was unchallengeable dogma in

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Speaker 7: the Republican Party that we are going to lose Hispanics

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Speaker 7: forever if we do not pass massed amnesty. Now, see,

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Speaker 7: this was largely passed and was pushed, i should say,

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Speaker 7: by the Koch brothers, by corporate interest, by the Chamber

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Speaker 7: of Commerce. This was largely being advanced by sinister multinational

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Speaker 7: corporations that didn't actually care about the politics. They wanted

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Speaker 7: cheap labor, and the Democrats were like, sure, you want

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Speaker 7: cheap labor, we want cheap votes marriage made in heaven. Instead,

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Speaker 7: what was created is a weapon of mass migration, not

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Speaker 7: a weapon of mass destruction. A weapon of mass migration.

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Speaker 7: And Jeb Bush and all of the Republican orthodoxy was

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Speaker 7: an every single donor believe this. We need to win

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Speaker 7: back Hispanics, and by doing so, we have to calm

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Speaker 7: down our rhetoric and immigration. This is, without a doubt,

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Speaker 7: one of the greatest missteps, one of the greatest errors

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Speaker 7: in modern, if not all, of the conservative movement. Almost

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Speaker 7: everybody fell for this, and honestly, I was twenty years

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Speaker 7: old at the time. I was twenty one years old

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Speaker 7: at time.

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Speaker 1: I kind of fell forward too.

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Speaker 7: I was like, well, do we need to water down

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Speaker 7: our language and do we need to be more compassionate

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Speaker 7: because a lot of Latinos and Hispanics they seem to

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Speaker 7: be for open borders and they have friends that have

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Speaker 7: come here illegally, and we were It was a ruse everybody.

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Speaker 7: It was a major scam. Paul Ryan and John McCain,

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Speaker 7: all of the moderate apparatics, we're together saying we must

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Speaker 7: do this or else we're gonna lose Hispanics ninety ten,

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Speaker 7: it'll be like Black America. And they were fear mongering,

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Speaker 7: and they were blackmailing us, saying you must do mass

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Speaker 7: amnesty right now, or else you will be a minority

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Speaker 7: party forever. And you'll never win back Hispanics. And ten

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Speaker 7: years ago to this month, the most consistent political candidate

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Speaker 7: that we've ever seen, Donald Trump changed everything. He said, Nope,

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Speaker 7: they're illegals, many of them are rapists, they're thugs, they're terrible.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna build a wall. Mexico will pay for it.

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Speaker 7: We're new mass deportations. And he has unwavered in that commitment.

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Speaker 7: And then we were told by the moderates in the

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Speaker 7: Republican Party, oh, you guys are gonna lose US majorities.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna lose elections if you talk like this, and

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Speaker 7: Hispanics will turn against you. Turns out the exact opposite

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Speaker 7: was actually the case. It turns out that the more

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Speaker 7: aggressive and hawkish that we got on immigration, the more

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Speaker 7: Hispanics were coming our way. The more aggressive and hawkishit

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Speaker 7: we got an immigration We finally, for the first time ever,

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Speaker 7: are beating Democrats on the issue of immigration. It turns out,

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Speaker 7: at the core Americans are actually very, very supportive of

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Speaker 7: mass deportations. And what I love is that the Democrats

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Speaker 7: they're continually pulling this or there's no way America. No,

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Speaker 7: that's true, America actually wants door by door, block by block,

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Speaker 7: mass deportations, and the Democrats they don't quite understand this.

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Speaker 7: Here is Amy Walter from the Cook Political Report, who

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Speaker 7: accurately says, this is the first time ever we've seen this.

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Speaker 7: Democrats used to have an advantage over Trump and immigration.

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Speaker 7: They have a disadvantage. Now play cut four twenty two.

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Speaker 9: California maybe first, but it clearly will not end here.

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Speaker 9: Other states are next. Democracy is next. California will keep fighting.

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Speaker 9: We'll keep fighting on behalf of our people, all of

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Speaker 9: our people, including in the court.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that is not what I wanted. Somebody said it

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Speaker 7: was for twenty two. So whatever it is. Once we

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Speaker 7: find Amy Walter, let me know. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: hear Devin Newsom. Can we play for twenty two?

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Speaker 1: Please? Is it for fortyus? You're going forward?

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Speaker 8: I think is how Democrats do talk about these issues.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be really important for the you know,

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Speaker 8: not just what's happening today in Los Angeles, but just

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Speaker 8: writ large. I think there has been a lot of

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Speaker 8: pullback and a lot of hand ringing from Democrats about

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Speaker 8: an issue which they used to have an advantage on

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Speaker 8: during the Trump's first term.

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Speaker 3: They have a.

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Speaker 8: Disadvantage on Now this issue isn't going away, and how

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Speaker 8: Democrats respond to whether this is going to happen in

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Speaker 8: other states, how they address concerns about safety and security

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Speaker 8: that is going to be critical just for the next

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Speaker 8: for well forever long.

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Speaker 1: It's been flipped.

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Speaker 7: Remember the RNC autopsy report of twenty thirteen. It's funny.

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Speaker 7: I actually went to one of those meetings. I was

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Speaker 7: brought to one of those RNC donor meetings by Mike Miller.

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Speaker 7: One of my dear friends runs MJ. Miller Jewelers in

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Speaker 7: the suburbs of Chicago in Barrington, Illinois, which I encourage

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Speaker 7: you guys to go to if you need to have

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Speaker 7: any jewelry needs. He actually did our wedding ring and

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Speaker 7: many other things. But he brought me to the RNC

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Speaker 7: autopsy report in Chicago because Ryan's previous who I really like.

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Speaker 1: He was doing a road show.

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Speaker 7: Just here's the report, here's the data, and he was

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Speaker 7: going to meet with donors because people were very, very

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Speaker 7: upset with what happened in twenty twelve. And this is

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Speaker 7: what was in the official RNC autops report autopsy report

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Speaker 7: in twenty thirteen. Quote among the steps Republicans must take

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Speaker 7: in the Hispanic community and beyond. We must embrace and

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Speaker 7: champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our party's

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Speaker 7: appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only