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Speaker 2: I want to get.
Speaker 3: Into the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion seating chart because Claudia, Dustin, I,
Speaker 3: and Blue we gave our prediction, so Jasmin still want
Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on as well. So I want
Speaker 3: to show you guys exactly what the seating chart was.
Speaker 3: And starting with you, Claudia, what were your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: Porsche and Cay Michelle have first chair.
Speaker 3: In Claudia, you actually predicted that they may give Cam
Speaker 3: and Schell first chair.
Speaker 2: So your thoughts on.
Speaker 3: All of this do you agree with it, disagree with it?
Speaker 3: And our girlfriend Cynthia Bailly friend to the show, she
Speaker 3: was up in between Porsche and Angela.
Speaker 4: I think Cynthia of Coursia have a priority spot. Because
Speaker 4: she acted more like a housewid I've been about three
Speaker 4: of them. Okay, come on sudden Phedra definitely collected a
Speaker 4: track and sat back. Mm gave some in the beginning,
Speaker 4: then kind of fell off a little bit, But I
Speaker 4: still like her. Who's the third one? Cam? Schelle came
Speaker 4: and Schelle does not deserve I mean star star name.
Speaker 4: She has a name, yes, but what does she what
Speaker 4: does she do? This season? She she she phased out
Speaker 4: and I am someone that was going was surprisingly so
Speaker 4: rooty for her episode three. I I called her a star,
Speaker 4: not so much in this in this arena, great on stage,
Speaker 4: great in other reality shows. She kind of like faded
Speaker 4: back like that Homer Simpson meme into into the bushes,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I feel like to
Speaker 4: be in the first chair first season with Kelly doing
Speaker 4: all the work that she did with Shemiah. Finally, Shemia
Speaker 4: was like a ninja in the middle of a circle
Speaker 4: of everyone coming at her like this. You could have
Speaker 4: put like three other people on that spot. It could
Speaker 4: have been shed have been it could have been Shamiyah,
Speaker 4: it could have been Kelly, it could have been and yeah,
Speaker 4: like Michelle should have been second to last, oh last.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I have a theory as to why k Michelle
Speaker 5: is in the first chair because earlier in the season
Speaker 5: I tweeted to Andy, I said, Andy, Kank Michelle please
Speaker 5: perform VSLP at the reunion, and I think she's in
Speaker 5: the first chair because she is going to perform v
Speaker 5: s LP. You want to make sure that she is
Speaker 5: in a convenience spot to do her performance and then.
Speaker 6: Sit back down.
Speaker 7: We don't like them Tonight Jazz.
Speaker 8: We're gonna like some Canada tonight baby very special.
Speaker 4: As a little bits seem like you have some white
Speaker 4: tight pants on.
Speaker 8: What you got going on with their dress?
Speaker 3: Hilarious.
Speaker 5: It's the Hips Hips done my brother and Hips.
Speaker 4: Was in everyone's storyline and not in that chair is crazy.
Speaker 4: But you know the way they did Andrew. They be
Speaker 4: working hard and Kelly, Kelly gave. I knew that she
Speaker 4: wasn't get for a share, but I will say she
Speaker 4: gave so much a season. She was vulnerable, She touch
Speaker 4: about her finances in a real way that we haven't
Speaker 4: seen in a long time. It wasn't performative. She'd get
Speaker 4: made up with people, she buried the hatchet. She showed
Speaker 4: like she was grown up on this. I got mad
Speaker 4: respect for Kelly. She did a good she got a
Speaker 4: great season.
Speaker 5: I think I agree. I agree with you. I was like,
Speaker 5: why is Shamia not in the first chair? Like when
Speaker 5: I saw this come out, I didn't have any predictions because,
Speaker 5: like I historically I don't even like reunions like that,
Speaker 5: So I never try to predict.
Speaker 6: Who's going to be sitting.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't know because it's like it's
Speaker 5: so much happening at one time, Like they're all screaming
Speaker 5: and yelling over each other. Like it's very overstimulating for me,
Speaker 5: Like when I'm watching them, just like I need silence,
Speaker 5: Like I need one person to talk at one time,
Speaker 5: and that's not what you do for reunions.
Speaker 6: I watched them.
Speaker 5: I watched them, but I am a lot more. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I never have predictions on like where people are
Speaker 5: gonna sit. But I thought if anybody was going to
Speaker 5: be sitting in the first chair, I knew Porsche had
Speaker 5: to be there. She is the face of this city,
Speaker 5: so that makes sense. But Shemia, it's been Shamiah versus
Speaker 5: everybody this season, and she is further down than I
Speaker 5: think she needs to be that's kind of crazy, Like
Speaker 5: the scening is kind of crazy when you think about it.
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 8: My only caveat is that I am looking forward to
Speaker 8: seeing Shamia argue with ky Michelle, and it's nothing like
Speaker 8: a lean in and look to their left to look
Speaker 8: to the right argument. Remember Drew was doing that on
Speaker 8: the last year on the season sixteen reunion, Drew said
Speaker 8: in it in pinky seat according to this chart, and
Speaker 8: ran at reunion stage last year she handled all her
Speaker 8: business swinging.
Speaker 7: So I don't know.
Speaker 8: I definitely think that that's an odd choice for first
Speaker 8: year based on ky Michelle's lack of participation.
Speaker 7: In the show.
Speaker 8: We watched her in several scenes in this episode sit
Speaker 8: dormant and quiet, bump on the log nothing to say,
Speaker 8: only to get in her confessional and offer the context
Speaker 8: that really belonged in the original conversation. I'm sick of that.
Speaker 8: But so she better not waste her spot in the
Speaker 8: front room. In the front seat of this reunion. We
Speaker 8: better get answers to the plotting accusations. We better get
Speaker 8: answers to who said it, where you was at, why
Speaker 8: it made did you cry? Why you were crying? Every
Speaker 8: scene we saw you in with the ladies this season.
Speaker 8: What were you thinking in those scenes? We want a
Speaker 8: live confessional from Kay Michelle on that reunion stage. Otherwise,
Speaker 8: get your ass out of the front seat and put
Speaker 8: Mia who belongs there, or a second choice, Kelly because
Speaker 8: she had a tough season and she's got a lot
Speaker 8: to say.
Speaker 7: The focus will be on her.
Speaker 8: To me, we are gonna get to watch tennis for
Speaker 8: the duration of all three parts of this reunion. Just
Speaker 8: turning her head from side to side, that's not gonna
Speaker 8: work for the reunion.
Speaker 4: Shamiah being in the third chair of that is crazy
Speaker 4: when you had first chair last season with way less
Speaker 4: drama than you have to see And do you have
Speaker 4: some tea? And it's not from any of the girls
Speaker 4: on the show. Someone told someone that told me someone's pregnant.
Speaker 4: Know what is one of the girl? One of the girl?
Speaker 2: You know about this, Carlos, I don't know nothing, girl. No, okay, Claudia,
Speaker 2: do not say it.
Speaker 4: Bookmark this, Okay, I'm not saying who it is.
Speaker 5: Someone text me I want to know you.
Speaker 4: Jab okay, I will say. I hope it's on the
Speaker 4: right side.
Speaker 3: Claudia, Claudia, Claudia, you see how I trying to save
Speaker 3: my girl.
Speaker 4: What I didn't say a name, Claudia.
Speaker 2: We focused on what happens this current week.
Speaker 4: It happened someone got busted up.
Speaker 8: Okay, Oh you know what, It might have been Pinky
Speaker 8: because she had on a big blousey dress on Watch
Speaker 8: What Happens Live? She looked really good. Might as she
Speaker 8: looked good as hell on Watch Happens Live? For her
Speaker 8: her dress was one that would accommodate disguising, like the
Speaker 8: early stages of a pregnancy.
Speaker 7: So maybe it was Pinky.
Speaker 8: Whoever it is, I'm happy for whoever it is, because really,
Speaker 8: if we're talking about the right side, we know that
Speaker 8: ky Michelle has expressed one to have a baby, that
Speaker 8: Shamiyah has been wanting to have another child as well,
Speaker 8: Kelly got a new man, and Tinky they keep having babies,
Speaker 8: and so you know what I'm saying, I'll be happy
Speaker 8: for whoever it is.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna listen to my boss and take
Speaker 4: the legal note first, and when it comes out, when
Speaker 4: the baby is a healthy, happy baby is born, run
Speaker 4: this clip.
Speaker 9: So in regards journalist seating chart, Okay, I'll say this, Okay,
Speaker 9: I have just couch accurate.
Speaker 7: Yes, give it up for lows.
Speaker 2: So I'm I won that one. The other side, I
Speaker 2: was not.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 2: I'm happy that came and Shall got first chair.
Speaker 3: I think it says a lot about what may be
Speaker 3: happening for the rest of the season. And I think
Speaker 3: this whether or not and listen the conversation about her
Speaker 3: rather good.
Speaker 2: Or bad, she starts a conversation, So I do believe
Speaker 2: that was a part of it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on a whim and say that I
Speaker 3: think Samia Nay would have set next to Kie Michelle.
Speaker 3: But because we've learned that came Andelle Shamia have been
Speaker 3: I think that's why Kelly's in the middle. Because to
Speaker 3: Dustin's point, when you do all of this, I do
Speaker 3: think it's a safety issue for two people who don't
Speaker 3: who aren't getting along to sit next with chub.
Speaker 2: So I think that's why.
Speaker 3: Shemiah, in my opinion, was pushed down because and not
Speaker 3: saying Kelly does not deserve second sea. I think Kelly's great,
Speaker 3: but my theory is Shamiah would have been second if
Speaker 3: her and Kim Michelle did not recently have the issue
Speaker 3: that we saw. I do want to say this though
Speaker 3: a steam shout out to Cynthia the Knees Bailey because
Speaker 3: the think of this.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna move on to the season.
Speaker 3: To the last night's episode, Cynthia.
Speaker 2: Belly has redefined what the friend will was.
Speaker 3: And while some of you guys not my panelists, but
Speaker 3: while some of you guys out on Twitter we're talking
Speaker 3: about Shemia's placement, you guys did not even look at
Speaker 3: the fact that Phaeder and Cynthia both started season three
Speaker 3: together right Pedro left after season nine, came back last season.
Speaker 3: Cynthia's been on you know up until a few seasons ago,
Speaker 3: came back as a friend last season. I think there's
Speaker 3: something to be said that a friend sur path a
Speaker 3: housewife where they both started on the same season, and
Speaker 3: that goes to show you the conversations that I think
Speaker 3: are happening in regards to how much Cynthia its value. Okay,
Speaker 3: to sit next to Porscha, who love her hat she's
Speaker 3: the face of the show, that to me was a
Speaker 3: loud message that in my opinion.
Speaker 7: For sure, it was a lowed message.
Speaker 8: And Cynthia, I loved that seating placement for her, but
Speaker 8: where she should have been is in the first.
Speaker 7: Chair on the opposite side.
Speaker 8: They should have bumped the whole couch down and put
Speaker 8: Cynthia in the first chair on the other side, the
Speaker 8: same thing they did at the season eight reunion when
Speaker 8: Nini appeared as a as a friend that season season.
Speaker 7: And Kim season ten as well. Yeah, that's right, and
Speaker 7: they was doing this and bye bye gone right, So.
Speaker 8: Yes, Cynthia should have been there, But I'm fine with
Speaker 8: her being in the position that she is on the
Speaker 8: other couch, Padra.
Speaker 7: I have enjoyed.
Speaker 8: Her in the scene at the end of this week's
Speaker 8: episode where they were having that pow wow and Kelly.
Speaker 7: Was making amends with Porsche temporarily. Yeah, scene.
Speaker 8: I loved Fader's contribution then, But contributions from her have
Speaker 8: been kind of few and far between, So her positioning
Speaker 8: on the couch makes sense to me.
Speaker 7: And that's it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, bad could have dra could have been a friend
Speaker 5: of this season, and it would have made sense to me.
Speaker 5: Like what she's been doing, she's given us some good moments.
Speaker 5: But yeah, when I think about Cynthia this season, I like,
Speaker 5: I keep forgetting that she's only a friend of to
Speaker 5: be honest with you, to her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and seriously and listen to all of the housewives
Speaker 3: that I've spoken to for the past two years.
Speaker 2: That have been calling me to get my advice.
Speaker 3: And I said this to you guys last year and
Speaker 3: the year before that you please take the friend role.
Speaker 2: Just take it, take it.
Speaker 3: I understand that, yes, some of you OG's or vets
Speaker 3: made the show what it is.
Speaker 2: I promise you, I get it.
Speaker 3: However, what I think you guys aren't getting is Cynthia
Speaker 3: Bailey doesn't have to worry about exposing so much of
Speaker 3: her personal life, and she still is able to be
Speaker 3: relevant in the in the scenes, and she's still able
Speaker 3: to be a powerful, dynamic and friend roll back in
Speaker 3: the day, because I will say this, back in the day,
Speaker 3: day day, when I was producing the show, a friend
Speaker 3: roll was a this if you were a housewife, that
Speaker 3: was the motive to a friend of What y'all don't
Speaker 3: see the audience is, listen, Marla Hampton dealt with this.
Speaker 3: Housewives do dismiss you if you're a friend. And I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna sit up here and say they don't. They
Speaker 3: will literally say middle of a scene, girls, shut up,
Speaker 3: you peachless girl, girl go by, girl, you ain't got
Speaker 3: no peach. You hear from a moment, girl, We're gonna
Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. So I do understand why it does
Speaker 3: feel challenging, But what I'm saying is years later, the
Speaker 3: role is different, and I encourage all of my ogs,
Speaker 3: all of my bets, if Bravo offers you a friend contract,
Speaker 3: please say.
Speaker 8: I think the reason it's landing differently too, is because
Speaker 8: Cynthia wanted a friend role. She didn't want to be
Speaker 8: a full time housewife. So her stepping into the friend role,
Speaker 8: she's happy. So she's she's functioning, She's not trying to
Speaker 8: do things to make her role amplified in the show
Speaker 8: because she wants to be a housewife. She's being natural.
Speaker 8: She's happy as a friend of the show. And I
Speaker 8: think that's the difference. We've never really seen that before
Speaker 8: in Atlanta. You know, all the friends typically had aspirations
Speaker 8: of being a full time housewife, and they showed in their.
Speaker 7: Thirst and in the way that they the antics and
Speaker 7: all of that ship.
Speaker 8: When Cynthia is confident because that's what she wants to do,
Speaker 8: So take Carlos's advice and own it in a way
Speaker 8: where you are happy to be there, because then it
Speaker 8: comes off different on screen.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you guys a question now that we're
Speaker 5: talking about this, Like Cynthia is so comfortable in this
Speaker 5: role because she was a vet for a really long time.
Speaker 5: Like you don't think about Atlanta and not think about
Speaker 5: Cynthia Bailey, so she is cemented in the legacy that
Speaker 5: is the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Do you guys think
Speaker 5: that there's a world when like we've had that's for
Speaker 5: so long that they need to have a mandatory friend
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. I think File.
Speaker 8: Richards, Jasmine Henley, Brown Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Jasmins, you tried it. I'll talk about Bailey Hills next year.
Speaker 2: Anyway to Atlanta. You're good. I will say this. I
Speaker 2: will say this will be.
Speaker 3: No one's life is that interesting for fifteen years straight.
Speaker 2: It's just it isn't. It isn't.
Speaker 3: And I do think there there should be an expiration
Speaker 3: date on a full time role. Not that you're not
Speaker 3: interesting or not that you're not great. I think it's
Speaker 3: sort of like the water has, you know, run dry,
Speaker 3: and you are expensive, so let's obviously pay you less
Speaker 3: and not ask.
Speaker 2: You to do more, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like in corporate America, especially after COVID, have to do more,
Speaker 3: got paid less.
Speaker 2: So I definitely think it's not that.
Speaker 3: But I one hundred percent I think there's a lot
Speaker 3: of full time housewives that should be demoted, that aren't
Speaker 3: deserving of holding anything in their hands. But a friend
Speaker 3: contract that Cynthia created, because again, Cynthia is great at
Speaker 3: what she does, because like Dustin said, she actually enjoys it.
Speaker 2: And and as somebody who.
Speaker 3: Has worked on the show before, and when people ask me,
Speaker 3: like when I go back and I sent you guys,
Speaker 3: I have no desire to go back because I like
Speaker 3: recapping the show more than working on it.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's.
Speaker 3: Different that Claudia tell me if I'm wrong the listen
Speaker 3: I worked on all the shows. The Atlanta Housewives is
Speaker 3: the most challenging reality show in the world to be
Speaker 3: a part of. It's difficult, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 3: I loved it. It was amazing, right, Claudia, great time,
Speaker 3: a lot of work. So to see Cynthia be like,
Speaker 3: I get to show up and leave and and and
Speaker 3: and and not expose my relationship, genius, genius, genius it
Speaker 3: is it is, So I want to get into this
Speaker 3: episode Ode thirteen, the ladies are in Scotland due to
Speaker 3: Porsche and Phaedra being a part of Traders, Jasmin's favorite.
Speaker 2: Sell and Peacock.
Speaker 3: They both are co hosting this trip to Scotland.
Speaker 2: And look, I love seeing my black girls in Scotland.
Speaker 3: I think it's I thought it was a great location
Speaker 3: for these girls to be a part of and they
Speaker 3: all look great doing it. It was nice to see,
Speaker 3: you know, Porscha and Phaedra have fun co hosting it
Speaker 3: as well. What we did learn in this episode, starting
Speaker 3: with the first storyline that was revealed, Pinky did reveal
Speaker 3: that her and Naturi and the team have decided to
Speaker 3: move forward with Shemiah having the role. Congratulations, Shamia. I
Speaker 3: thought she did a great job. When we saw her
Speaker 3: rehearse for it, Angela said that they all should do
Speaker 3: a cameo in the movie.
Speaker 2: Some people took that as a disc Claudia, with your
Speaker 2: thoughts on getting the role.
Speaker 3: Do you think that comment was Angela throwing shade?
Speaker 4: She was throwing shade, but I don't be landed like
Speaker 4: she thought it would land And you know, I like,
Speaker 4: I actually like Angela, and you know me, if I
Speaker 4: like someone it's harder for me to give them criticism.
Speaker 4: But I was like, you know, she was she threw
Speaker 4: it out there to kind of diminish getting the role
Speaker 4: a little bit. It felt like, yeah, but I think
Speaker 4: it was that big of a deal though. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was obvious that Shmi was gonna get the role,
Speaker 4: and they probably already set that up before she did
Speaker 4: the audition. That's what I think. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 5: I was wondering if Angela actually said that in response
Speaker 5: to Pinky making that announcement, because I know Carlos, y'all producers,
Speaker 5: y'all like to slice and dice sh it up, and
Speaker 5: we already know there's a storyline with Shamia and Angela
Speaker 5: not liking each other, so it would be so convenient
Speaker 5: to put that sound bite like right after Pinky announces that.
Speaker 6: So I was watching that scene and I.
Speaker 5: Was like, I don't know if this is clever editing
Speaker 5: or she actually said that in response. There she said
Speaker 5: it in response, it was definitely some hater shit, but
Speaker 5: maybe she said it at a different time and they
Speaker 5: just put it right there.
Speaker 2: That could happened.
Speaker 4: Yes, you'd been like I can say that about that
Speaker 4: person at that moment, and then you look at a hater, Well, what.
Speaker 8: Is it to hate on? What is it to hate on?
Speaker 8: First of all, they ain't film shit. Pinky's busy, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. Her husband is busy with the
Speaker 8: successful empire of Dave. She's the big Dave. She steaks,
Speaker 8: which are good. I ain't know Dann Vegan I had too,
Speaker 8: so they are good.
Speaker 7: They're busy.
Speaker 8: Pinky used the opportunity to film scenes developing a series
Speaker 8: or film, which I think is great, but we would
Speaker 8: like to see it, you know, through to completion and
Speaker 8: Smia and her recent press interview, she had an incredible
Speaker 8: interview with My Girl Angelauee shout out to Angela Yee.
Speaker 8: She said that they ain't film shit, but Sami said,
Speaker 8: they ain't film the damn thing. So and we know
Speaker 8: they haven't because, like Carlo said, Pinky wasn't serious about that.
Speaker 8: So the way that they were sitting there tossing around
Speaker 8: ideas at that table.
Speaker 7: You should be the lawyer, well you should do it.
Speaker 8: It was like when kids play pretend you know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying, you be a judge.
Speaker 7: Okay, well you beat a jury, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I was always a school teacher.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to be the police man.
Speaker 7: But anyway, yes, and so.
Speaker 8: Uh, it just wasn't serious, and so I think Angela
Speaker 8: saying well, we all should get a cameo.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a dig.
Speaker 8: And it also reflected the fact that none of them
Speaker 8: really were serious in the first damn place.
Speaker 4: So now he has to put that forty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: show out. She has to do it, right.
Speaker 2: Is that shade? It's a forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: I'm alost going to four thousand dollars right now. So no,
Speaker 4: I think we all should have a cameo too.
Speaker 3: I would love a cameo Pinky, especially after this episode,
Speaker 3: because I enjoyed you Pinky this episode.
Speaker 2: So hello, speak on it.
Speaker 5: Because I was really going to say that. I was like,
Speaker 5: I know, I was like waffling on her in the
Speaker 5: beginning of the season. I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I'm just not warmed up to her yet. I like
Speaker 5: Pinky and I'm not afraid to admit it. I'm shouting
Speaker 5: from the roof.
Speaker 7: I love think you definitely.
Speaker 4: I liked it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Pinky and that's the thing why I
Speaker 3: gave my disclaimer earlier. Like we only recapped the episode,
Speaker 3: it can change week to week. Great in the beginning,
Speaker 3: hard to digest for like five weeks straight. This episode,
Speaker 3: I really enjoy her. Unfortunately I did not enjoy Angela.
Speaker 3: Hopefully this episode as we get into what happened, Angela,
Speaker 3: I love you and real life, I will see you
Speaker 3: at the Hawks game when they start playing again. And
Speaker 3: congratulations Charles Oakley for his next championship win as well. Angela,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this. You
Speaker 3: are clicking down bad and it is not a good look.
Speaker 3: I what what you're doing is indefensible, and in this
Speaker 3: week's episode, Angela, I I'm not defending anything you're doing.
Speaker 3: I called it out last week. You girls are kissing
Speaker 3: Portia's ass and it's obvious. It's it's it's giving charm
Speaker 3: and squeeze. Okay, it's it's it's it's giving pillows. Okay.
Speaker 2: The b bl is is definitely the legally legally lick
Speaker 2: lick Angela and Angela revealed.
Speaker 3: It's even hard for me to say because I was
Speaker 3: so disgusted by this, and I'm gonna use that word. Okay, Angela,
Speaker 3: you are better than this. You're You're not somebody we
Speaker 3: all Harold did last season. Because you would go and
Speaker 3: leave your house, leave the cul de sac, pass your mailbox,
Speaker 3: go to your neighbor's home.
Speaker 2: You don't ask to borrow sugar. Instead, you asked to
Speaker 2: borrow tea.
Speaker 3: You then ask a married woman in your neighborhood about
Speaker 3: her husband's alleged situation with Shemiah. I said this last week,
Speaker 3: and y'all dragged me with y'all gonna be I don't
Speaker 3: give a shit but a lot of y'all in all.
Speaker 2: Fairness, said Carlos, we agree with you.
Speaker 3: The thing for me is is this, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: call it out. Shemiah did nothing to you, Angela, to
Speaker 3: warrn you investigating her vagina. Thank you for me, Thank.
Speaker 2: You God for me not saying the were you investigating the.
Speaker 3: Miles on Shamiah's vagina is deplorable. What Shamiah decides to
Speaker 3: do in her marriage is between her and Gerald. Samia
Speaker 3: never once said anything about your miles And I'm all
Speaker 3: about you know, I for an I you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But Samia's because I watched the scene over.
Speaker 3: Because Angela, I was really trying to find ways to
Speaker 3: help you. I'm helpless because Shemiah only made a comment
Speaker 3: about Charles being outside, y'all being outside whatever and whatever
Speaker 3: happened behind the scenes. Unless Shamiah did something so disgusting.
Speaker 3: This is Housewives. This is not Reno nine one one.
Speaker 3: I don't want to watch my housewives investigate a woman's
Speaker 3: past for the sake of bringing up And it made
Speaker 3: me think about your your playbook, Angela. And this is
Speaker 3: when I said, Angela, I got your number. When you
Speaker 3: told Pinky, let's talk about the girl in the basement.
Speaker 3: I now have realized you investigated Pinky too, And what
Speaker 3: you have is a mean girl book in your home,
Speaker 3: and you have information on all of these girls, so
Speaker 3: that if these girls decided to come for you, you
Speaker 3: have things to say. Because when you said Pinky had
Speaker 3: a girlfriend the basement, it.
Speaker 2: Was listen, we laughed at it because it was so ridiculous. Read.
Speaker 3: I now realized, hope you find information on people and
Speaker 3: you can't wait to expose it, and for that I
Speaker 3: can't respect it. I still love you as a housewife
Speaker 3: and hopefully you'll get past this. You went on Twitter
Speaker 3: today saying stay tuned. I don't care what you meet
Speaker 3: has done. My point is investigating someone's vagina miles for
Speaker 3: the sake of a read. It's not the type of
Speaker 3: show I want to watch. And that's that's that's how
Speaker 3: I feel.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what else.
Speaker 10: Are we supposed to say? After that?
Speaker 4: Who's who? Whose home phone is ringing with right now?
Speaker 8: That's my motherfucking doorbell. And I'm so goddamn mad right
Speaker 8: now because the raggedy motherfucker who's outside pushing it is
Speaker 8: pushing it for all of the units in my building
Speaker 8: because trying to get in here. And I really wish
Speaker 8: I could open up my window and cut their motherfucking
Speaker 8: ass out like I want to right now.
Speaker 7: And I feel so much better now that I got
Speaker 7: that out. I was hoping.
Speaker 3: Let me get this out to you Porsche fans who
Speaker 3: have like, first of all, some of y'all need to
Speaker 3: go back to school just because I said they want
Speaker 3: to get they want to kiss Porscha's ass.
Speaker 2: No one's blaming Porsche.
Speaker 3: You guys need to get your your head out of
Speaker 3: Porsche's ass.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. We no one has said anything bad about Porsche.
Speaker 3: Y'all love it. Somebody says anything about Porsche. Some of
Speaker 3: you fans are so dense that y'all don't even realize no.
Speaker 2: One's dissing her. I said they're kissing Porscha's ass. No
Speaker 2: one's blaming Porsche for ass being kissed.
Speaker 3: Wake up, go to school, read a book, have common sense.
Speaker 3: You guys are less than smart, and it's getting quite
Speaker 3: frankly annoying. I love all the girls, Okay, I love
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of all the girls. At some point,
Speaker 3: you gotta call the girls out of these episodes.
Speaker 2: No one is saying Porsche's to blame. Cut the ship.
Speaker 2: You guys are annoying us. Stop it. We're allowed to
Speaker 2: have an opinion. You guys are really the silent cuts
Speaker 2: them out.
Speaker 3: You guys said the saving every week. He's like, no
Speaker 3: one said any bad about her. You guys are You
Speaker 3: guys need to go ahead, James.
Speaker 4: They be stuck in their fan They have their strong opinions.
Speaker 4: I definitely have been at the receiving it. I definitely
Speaker 4: see what you feel were saying. Just oh, y'all want
Speaker 4: to make me Marshall Marshad.
Speaker 2: Each other, and that's fine.
Speaker 10: I love it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: So I saw two threads that I wanted to bring
Speaker 5: up that I thought were interesting regarding the dynamic between
Speaker 5: Angela and Shamia.
Speaker 10: So I am b C. Beck.
Speaker 5: I think Underscore. Now, I sound like one of George
Speaker 5: Bush's victims who can read.
Speaker 2: I don't know who.
Speaker 6: Is what?
Speaker 5: You know who you are? She asked if Angela was
Speaker 5: jealous of Shemia. And then I saw another thread, and
Speaker 5: this one really got me. This one said Angela wants Shamiya.
Speaker 5: She's attracted to her. It's like the boy who picks
Speaker 5: at the girl with elementary school because he likes her.
Speaker 5: That's all this is. And that was from Underscore tailor
Speaker 5: made seven seven and seven. Now I'm not saying that
Speaker 5: I into it, but I am saying that was a
Speaker 5: very interesting theory to throw out, because it is like,
Speaker 5: what is the.
Speaker 10: Issue, Angela?
Speaker 8: You know what the issue is. The issue is that
Speaker 8: they were on that trip wherever they were, and Angela
Speaker 8: heard them her Portia and Shamia talking shit outside of
Speaker 8: that window about about Angela. They were talking about Angela,
Speaker 8: and they brought up Charles as a way to dig
Speaker 8: an Angie, she better have caught playing with me for
Speaker 8: our fuck Charles and Shmia was out there laughing. And
Speaker 8: I have known people who have been in similar situations
Speaker 8: where they're gonna handle it with the one person. But
Speaker 8: that motherfucker that was over there laughing and egging it on.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: It's a lingering and a lingering anger there, and I
Speaker 8: believe that it's simply rooted in that, and she decided
Speaker 8: that I have to have Angela is very strategic, she
Speaker 8: appears to be, and yes, she failed, Yeah she failed
Speaker 8: miserably in this episode.
Speaker 7: There's really no excuse to me.
Speaker 8: I talk it up to a new being a new
Speaker 8: housewife and trying to apply strategy as opposed to just
Speaker 8: being herself, which is when she really shines. So Angela
Speaker 8: doesn't have to try hard, she just has to be herself.
Speaker 8: And unfortunately she overplayed her hand with this one because
Speaker 8: she literally made up a lie about Shemiah sleeping with
Speaker 8: that man and used it as a She just made
Speaker 8: it up. But the good thing about this situation is
Speaker 8: that we don't have to wait to get to the
Speaker 8: bottom of anything like we did last year with the
Speaker 8: Phaedra shit that she made up. She admitted it in
Speaker 8: the scene. She said, no, it came from me. I'm
Speaker 8: the one who said it. I didn't get it from
Speaker 8: anywhere else. I said it. So at least it's done right,
Speaker 8: Like we know where it came from. We don't have
Speaker 8: anything left to figure out. But it wasn't Angela being
Speaker 8: a good housewife, and she's been a good housewife before.
Speaker 8: The vendetta against Shemiah is getting old. Angela really can't
Speaker 8: win no argument with Shemiah either, low key because it
Speaker 8: was a tie at best at that first restaurant, and
Speaker 8: then every time since then, Shamiah has been eating Angela's
Speaker 8: ass up in them argument. So Shami has been having
Speaker 8: a hard time. But she held her on at the
Speaker 8: table and she was completely justified with you know, a
Speaker 8: text exchange that substantiated everything she had to say.
Speaker 7: So it's really nothing left to argue about.
Speaker 8: That's why I think we saw Angela kind of spiral
Speaker 8: a little bit on Twitter today saying that there was
Speaker 8: more information to come. We don't give a fuck about that.
Speaker 8: Why would we care? All we doing is watching TV. Yeah,
Speaker 8: we don't give a fuck about none of that. Why
Speaker 8: do we care? All we're doing is watching the show.
Speaker 8: It was very me authority and Mea used to do
Speaker 8: all that shit. Well just wait, something else is gonna
Speaker 8: be revealed, and this and that and all that teasing.
Speaker 8: Kay Mia Shell is doing it now with that plotting
Speaker 8: shit and that you're gonna tell us later. We never
Speaker 8: are moved or swayed by that, right, the promise of
Speaker 8: more information to come. The shit doesn't make sense. It's okay,
Speaker 8: all housewives make a mistake.
Speaker 7: It is what it is.
Speaker 8: We're not gonna put seeing like other housewives haven't gotten
Speaker 8: caught in lies before.
Speaker 7: It is what it is. And in this case, she
Speaker 7: wasn't really caught in a lie.
Speaker 8: She just made it up and it came out that
Speaker 8: she made up the lie, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: and she has to be accountable for that. Angela strikes
Speaker 8: me as a housewife that is paying attention to what
Speaker 8: the fans have to say, and not in a way
Speaker 8: that's gonna be unhealthy for her. I think they should
Speaker 8: edit herself. I think that she'll give herself notes moving
Speaker 8: forward and be like, Okay, I got to stop trying
Speaker 8: to create a conversation based around things that I can
Speaker 8: manipulate to mean something and just the responding reaction.
Speaker 2: Angela.
Speaker 3: The reason why you were the fans favorite last season.
Speaker 3: I gave you that title too, like you were everything.
Speaker 3: It is because in the moment you did a good
Speaker 3: job being yourself.
Speaker 2: Angela.
Speaker 3: My advice to you is stop investigating these girls, because
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some advice as somebody who's
Speaker 3: worked on The Shopper ten years in real life, Angela,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.
Speaker 2: In real life, those girls ain't checking for you.
Speaker 3: Because they are afraid that anything they say to you,
Speaker 3: you're going to expose it on a mad day.
Speaker 2: I promise every single fiber of my being.
Speaker 3: These girls look at you like I know what she's doing.
Speaker 2: I you you're showing your hand. And Angela Oakley, you
Speaker 2: are better than that. We didn't love you for that.
Speaker 2: We loved you because you were yourself.
Speaker 3: Like Dustin said, just operate this manipulation, the investigation. You
Speaker 3: are better than that girl, like, don't do it, you don't,
Speaker 3: you don't have to.
Speaker 2: We we love you. Claudia.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's okay. You guys how to get that
Speaker 4: off your chest? And it was very passionate. I love Angela.
Speaker 4: I really like Samia too, And I hate to have
Speaker 4: to say this. Unless they only disclaimer our gift, and
Speaker 4: unless Angela.
Speaker 11: Has some amazing uncut footage something that would rock our world,
Speaker 11: it's gonna be hard to like kind of like shake
Speaker 11: this like bad taste we all have in our mouths
Speaker 11: because we all love her.
Speaker 4: And I think that might be the problem. You know,
Speaker 4: you come on the scene and you just like become
Speaker 4: like a favorite so fast where everybody's like, yo, you
Speaker 4: could do it all wrong. Sometimes you start feeling like
Speaker 4: you can do no wrong, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And sometimes when you like look at the fans, and
Speaker 4: certain fans want you to always be aggressive and read
Speaker 4: someone down. They think that's the one note that you're
Speaker 4: expected to do at all times, you become that, and
Speaker 4: then you become one note. Because it seems like ever
Speaker 4: since she got like the crown of the fan favorite,
Speaker 4: she's been making some mistakes because like, I still do
Speaker 4: like her, but what doesn't make sense to me? And Angela,
Speaker 4: if you're watching, you know, we always say this with love.
Speaker 4: We don't hate you, we want you to You were
Speaker 4: a reminiscent of the throwback housewives like you are epic.
Speaker 4: If there's like a mount rushmore of housewives, you belong
Speaker 4: on there. I think you're super dope, But don't mess
Speaker 4: up your season by doing this. Having this, I try
Speaker 4: to understand, like the beef with Shamir, Right, can me
Speaker 4: be annoying with certain little antics and stuff and be like, yes,
Speaker 4: but they are. I can argue every one of them.
Speaker 4: You can make an argument with every one of them
Speaker 4: doing something that's a little bit all right? Why you
Speaker 4: always working? Why your wig always lifting? Why you have
Speaker 4: so much megabon, why you always say the same thing,
Speaker 4: why you always crying? Everyone got something about the next
Speaker 4: to be annoying? Right, But Angela, you have all the
Speaker 4: makings of a great the fact that you're still mad
Speaker 4: at Shemiah for laughing when Porsha is the one that
Speaker 4: said she was gonna fuck your husband. But you do.
Speaker 4: You do show the capability that you can forgive someone
Speaker 4: and move on, which I think is great. It would
Speaker 4: be better if you would like that with both of them,
Speaker 4: because I don't. I'm trying to rack my brain, like
Speaker 4: what else that was so bad that Shmia Diad besides
Speaker 4: being a part of that conversation. Now, mind you, if
Speaker 4: someone is skiking and laughing with someone they say they're
Speaker 4: gonna fuck my man, I would be mad too, But
Speaker 4: I looked a little quite gray. If I forget the
Speaker 4: person who said it, and I'm really getting real close
Speaker 4: with them while still being really really mad, and it
Speaker 4: hasn't even toned down at all. It's actually getting worse
Speaker 4: than the person that was just a co sign.
Speaker 2: So I feel like.
Speaker 4: If you have the same energy, it would actually make
Speaker 4: a little bit more sense. This is why Kelly is
Speaker 4: killing it, because Kelly doesn't change up, and Kelly is
Speaker 4: not kissing the ring or kissing the ass of Porscha
Speaker 4: and Porsha. I don't think it's Porscha's fault, but I
Speaker 4: do think Porscha is reveling and getting You know, when
Speaker 4: you like some people, you got beef for people, you
Speaker 4: go get cool with one of their friends, you look
Speaker 4: like the good person. Now everyone's like on your side.
Speaker 4: She's gathering and it's like such a whether she's trying
Speaker 4: to do it or not. Everyone is now over on
Speaker 4: Porscha's side, trying to leave Shamid. And then Sami is
Speaker 4: on an island by herself and you know it's it's
Speaker 4: it's really I don't know. I see that play coming
Speaker 4: a mile away, but I think the girls will get
Speaker 4: more respect for themselves and even Drew. I got a Drew,
Speaker 4: you know, I fucked you. I like you, But all
Speaker 4: y'all were so quick to kind of run over there,
Speaker 4: which I do like y'all getting along. I don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, and it's not an I Portia think standing
Speaker 4: aground on principle about things and not like rushing so
Speaker 4: fast makes you look like less of an ass kisser
Speaker 4: and less of a follow That's why Kelly did it
Speaker 4: the right way. She still found a way to kind
Speaker 4: of squash the beef for Porschea, which I think is dope,
Speaker 4: but without doing it so fast where it seems fake
Speaker 4: and Angela, I don't get it does it. It's it's
Speaker 4: really like I'm really like, okay, am I missing something here?
Speaker 4: Like why are you? Why is the beef so happening?
Speaker 2: I think this point, I'll say this, Listen. I'm smart,
Speaker 2: so I get I get the the code.
Speaker 3: And Angela's tweets today, I'm gonna go out on a
Speaker 3: limb and say that after reunion, Angela has some receipts
Speaker 3: about why art on Smia. I'm telling you at this point,
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn and that's me be alone
Speaker 3: in that, because the thing is, if Shamia did something
Speaker 3: last season addressed the last season when her and Faedra
Speaker 3: had their beef and and Angela felt the need to
Speaker 3: really find out why this man tried to shade her marriage,
Speaker 3: I understood where where Angela was coming from trying to
Speaker 3: figure it out. But if Faidra did that, and and
Speaker 3: based on information we have, she did not right, you
Speaker 3: forgave Faedra Portia made the comment Portie apologized.
Speaker 2: You forgave her. People are saying, well, Smilla's never apologized.
Speaker 3: I don't know why Samiya sho like so cause some
Speaker 3: of y'all again pick your favorites, and y'all don't have
Speaker 3: y'all don't have common sense. If y'all want Shamiah to
Speaker 3: apologize to Angela for making the comments about Charles being outside,
Speaker 3: then Angela common sense got eyes should apologize too. But
Speaker 3: what did Shamia say that was so bad that when
Speaker 3: Angela won that read by one point, she can't apologize
Speaker 3: to Shamia also, And I'm gonna skip to the income
Speaker 3: right backly fast, I said this weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Porscha respects Kelly. Yeah, because what y'all don't know about Porscha.
Speaker 3: Porsha wants to make a good TV show, even if
Speaker 3: it's at her own expense when it comes to shade
Speaker 3: her Shamia aside, and that's that's that's that's like me
Speaker 3: and doesn't fighting. Y'all will cray y'all saw me in
Speaker 3: doesn't fight because that's like we're like family. So nobody
Speaker 3: wants to see Smia in Porscha fight, but respect that Kelly,
Speaker 3: who is five foot zero on a good day, it
Speaker 3: is able to come at her. Which is why at
Speaker 3: the end Porsche apologize because Porscha is like, I trip
Speaker 3: it off with you girl, like you're a good TV
Speaker 3: you got me activated, I'm earning the millions I'm making.
Speaker 2: So you want to read, am I vagina, let's go
Speaker 2: to war.
Speaker 3: But the thing with Angela Shamia I, I'm not understanding
Speaker 3: what's going on. And to continue on with this conversation.
Speaker 8: There's one point, Tholos that needs to be said, the
Speaker 8: same conversation that's being had about Angela's incessant beef with
Speaker 8: Shamiyah Shamia is doing the exact same thing that Drew Sidora.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, it's a beef that that has.
Speaker 8: Nothing to do with her. She's beefing with Drew over
Speaker 8: her and Porscha. She she started beefing with Drew in
Speaker 8: defense of her friendship with Porscha and in defense of Porsche,
Speaker 8: and she's continuing it for no reason.
Speaker 7: So if Angela's gonna stop coming.
Speaker 8: At Shamiah, who I love on the show, then Samiyah,
Speaker 8: who I love on the show, needs to stop coming
Speaker 8: at Drew, who I also love on the show, because
Speaker 8: they're both the same, They're akin to each other, They're
Speaker 8: they're both unsubstantiated beefs that have gone on and lingered
Speaker 8: way too long to have gotten dole, that are now
Speaker 8: becoming burdensome to viewers, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 8: so the same the same whacking that we're giving Angela
Speaker 8: for the way she's doing Shmiya, we're also going to
Speaker 8: have to address the way that Shemia is continuing this
Speaker 8: ship Withdrew for no reason.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I need to start.
Speaker 4: It's like it's something being left out of the editing,
Speaker 4: because like, yeah, I will I agree with that too,
Speaker 4: and then sometimes you think they like neutral, then someone
Speaker 4: will talk some shit in a in a green screen
Speaker 4: you're like, oh stop, like because honestly, I loved seeing
Speaker 4: the moment where they start getting along, like I love
Speaker 4: when they had when they were all doing the Soul
Speaker 4: Timeline a few weeks ago. And I also really really
Speaker 4: loved the moment between Kelly and Porsche. Honestly, I thought
Speaker 4: that was like super dope, and I was hoping, like
Speaker 4: maybe that can lead to Shamia and Porsche at some point,
Speaker 4: if you know, because Kelly and Shamo and to me
Speaker 4: are kind of like you know, connect that they head,
Speaker 4: they're real close. I would love to see that because
Speaker 4: like it's cool when it's like fun fun fun argument
Speaker 4: fun fun fun argument not argument argument argument, tiny bit
Speaker 4: of fun argument, tiny of of fun. Like it's a
Speaker 4: little it's enough at this point, Like then the things
Speaker 4: are not it's not even like life changing things where
Speaker 4: you screwed my man or you took my money. It's
Speaker 4: little things like you did that shait. It's little shit.
Speaker 4: It's all stuff that could actually be fixed, Like these
Speaker 4: are all fixable. It's just with all the girls. I
Speaker 4: don't think anything here that's like the the you know,
Speaker 4: that's that's friend that's like so bad that it can't
Speaker 4: they can't get back on track.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the ladies need to like Shamia for
Speaker 5: whatever reason, seems like an easy person to pick on.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if it's because she's kind of cringey, right,
Speaker 5: you know you have that one friend in the friend
Speaker 5: group who's like super annoying all the time, So like,
Speaker 5: if you want to direct some smoke at somebody, she's
Speaker 5: the easiest target because everybody else in.
Speaker 10: The group already thinks she's kind of annoying anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shamilla kind of plays that role within the friend group.
Speaker 5: But what I didn't like too was when Angela was
Speaker 5: on the phone with Ashley and actually said the thing
Speaker 5: is like, oh, you asked me if I had dirt
Speaker 5: on Shamiya. You could see that Portia and Pedra clocked
Speaker 5: it because looked around and she looked, yeah, she nuged her.
Speaker 10: She looked around. You could see that she clocked it.
Speaker 5: But then they didn't like say anything when they went
Speaker 5: back out with the group. I don't like that because
Speaker 5: now it feels like there's a concerted effort to kind
Speaker 5: of like continue to isolate Shamiya when like it was
Speaker 5: clear as day that Angela was the issue with this
Speaker 5: whole thing. And I wish that Phaedra and Porscha, being
Speaker 5: the veterans that they are, knowing that Angela really wants
Speaker 5: to still be down with them, they could have called
Speaker 5: Angela out for that and it.
Speaker 10: Wouldn't have affected like their relationship.
Speaker 5: But I feel like in some way they kind of
Speaker 5: want to keep the issues going with Shemia a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yes, I play can I play Angel's advocate?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: And this is me being real about this.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's Porsa's job to save Smia from
Speaker 3: getting dragged.
Speaker 2: The thing is this, if me and sorry Dustin, if
Speaker 2: me and didn't.
Speaker 8: Have me in address already this week, how much what
Speaker 8: else can you do? Twist a knife Carlos.
Speaker 3: Yes, So let's say me and Dustin are the best
Speaker 3: of friends and we had a falling out. Although I
Speaker 3: could see Claudia and jazz men reading Dustin, I don't
Speaker 3: fuck with Dustin anymore. So I don't care about Dustin
Speaker 3: and what happens to him, So I listen. I personally
Speaker 3: dragged me off for Grandma too. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: ports his job to have show me as biped me
Speaker 3: is back for the sake of right or wrong.
Speaker 2: I will be honest.
Speaker 3: Anybody I fall out with, you're on your own, bro, like,
Speaker 3: like you have to.
Speaker 4: See wrong is being done to that person.
Speaker 3: I go if I don't, if I.
Speaker 2: I go mess with you in my real life.
Speaker 3: If I invited you to my home episode one, whether
Speaker 3: it was strategy or not, I did it right. And
Speaker 3: I'm keeping a qup with you, like we ain't like
Speaker 3: I'll fuck with you, but we can coexist.
Speaker 2: I'm not defending you. You did not invite me to
Speaker 2: your home. You didn't. You didn't, you had no you
Speaker 2: did not even have enough person.
Speaker 8: It's a little bit more nuanced too, right, there's a
Speaker 8: there's a little bit more. It's a little bit more
Speaker 8: layer too, because let's not forget there was an off
Speaker 8: camera text exchange between Porscha and Shamia that apparently kind
Speaker 8: of set the right all of that when they put
Speaker 8: her in the They was putting Shamia shout out to
Speaker 8: Melo Yellow on It's on Twitter, one of the hilarious
Speaker 8: creators of memes and ship that go viral. But anyway,
Speaker 8: they was putting Shamia all in the Quiet Storm Mob
Speaker 8: dep video doing them hand movements and ship It was
Speaker 8: so funny, but that text exchange kind of set the
Speaker 8: tone for the way things are between Porscha and Shmiya,
Speaker 8: and they haven't gotten into it on camera yet. There's
Speaker 8: tension we saw at the table to in this Skyland
Speaker 8: episode when Porscha was like, well, why are you bucking
Speaker 8: your eyes and me, I ain't even got nothing to
Speaker 8: do with this, So it's it's boiling, it's it's getting
Speaker 8: to it's the tension is rising between the two of them, but.
Speaker 7: They're not on good terms.
Speaker 8: So I would understand if they were just having a
Speaker 8: tough time in their relationship, but there's been like occurrences
Speaker 8: and and things that have taken place that they each
Speaker 8: are mad at each other about and just refusing to
Speaker 8: argue about on camera. So I had zero expectation of
Speaker 8: Porsche to walk out their room and you know, deliver
Speaker 8: that message that Ashley had basically said, you know you
Speaker 8: contacted me Angela to get dirt on Smida. You know,
Speaker 8: I didn't expect Porscha to carry that outside, and I
Speaker 8: damn sure didn't expect Faser to Faser's still mad about
Speaker 8: the season nine reunion couch argument when Shemia looked beautiful
Speaker 8: in navy dress and group complex is surgery able to
Speaker 8: this side, the Saint regis buying a pair of shoes.
Speaker 8: All that you all remember, Porscha hooked me up with
Speaker 8: African you all remember should be and all the things
Speaker 8: that happened in that season. The head doctor accusations Shamiyah,
Speaker 8: saying that Phaser had flirted with her husband at the time.
Speaker 8: They don't like each other. They're playing nice for the
Speaker 8: sake of the show. And they even admitted to that
Speaker 8: on the reunion stage last season in season sixteen, like, hey,
Speaker 8: Shamia said, you never really addressed the things you said
Speaker 8: about me. We're moving on. You apologize here, we can
Speaker 8: move on. So that's still underneath all of that.
Speaker 7: They don't like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 3: Porscha o Shamir anything. I will say this and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna you can come next, Jazz, when you mentioned the
Speaker 3: nudge Porscha Gabe after Ashley said Angela wanted to dig
Speaker 3: dirt on Shamiyah, I took that nudge as se bitch.
Speaker 3: We can't trust this home like see bitch, Yeah, can't
Speaker 3: trust Angela. I took I took that nute as, Oh,
Speaker 3: this bitch is getting information on us.
Speaker 2: Because the thing is this and maybe this is inside baseball. Claudia,
Speaker 2: you can help me out here too.
Speaker 3: Those the Atlanta Housewives, specifically, every time they filmed, they
Speaker 3: are sitting on ready for someone to say something outlandish
Speaker 3: about what they may have heard.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I took portsche telling Pedra she can't be trusted, like
Speaker 3: we gotta We're gonna keep it like Thatsa said, we'll
Speaker 3: keep it cute, but girl, we will never tell you.
Speaker 2: Anything that is a secret. And the last thing Dustin
Speaker 2: is right that.
Speaker 3: Text exchange between Porsche and Shamia from what I was told.
Speaker 12: Okay, was it's probably the worst things you can say
Speaker 12: to friends in terms the bitriola, which is why they
Speaker 12: both refuse to address it.
Speaker 7: Well, stop it and god damn it.
Speaker 8: If you ain't gonna talk about it on the show,
Speaker 8: don't talk about it on the show, because we shouldn't
Speaker 8: even know that that happened. If you're not going to
Speaker 8: screenshot the text threads the same way that you guys
Speaker 8: screenshotted the text from what was the guy's name, the
Speaker 8: George's wife, the same way that thought thank you friend,
Speaker 8: the same way that those messages were screenshot and added
Speaker 8: to the episode. Give us the text messages between Claudia.
Speaker 8: Don't you give us the text messages.
Speaker 7: Bring the mothers onto the show.
Speaker 8: Let us get the totality of the story so that
Speaker 8: we can make sense of this, because that's what's gonna
Speaker 8: make this connect for us. Otherwise it's just a bunch
Speaker 8: of Morse code, you know, ransom letter notes, you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, all jumble together that just don't make
Speaker 8: sense in the end.
Speaker 4: So same because even I'm like, okay, what is their beef? God,
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting what the origin of the shmia and and Porsche.
Speaker 4: The thing is, I'm like, it was it that all
Speaker 4: these other things and scheming and people being brought into
Speaker 4: scenes and saying they saw your husband and I got footage.
Speaker 4: I was like I could, I got the footage from
Speaker 4: the arena, all the stuff that people said, like, that's
Speaker 4: what they have is is I don't remember what their
Speaker 4: beef was about for to get this bad And so yes,
Speaker 4: I agree, if this is all about the beef between
Speaker 4: their moms, then the moms need to come on here,
Speaker 4: they need to be in a scene. They need to
Speaker 4: just gout and pay them a little apearance fee and
Speaker 4: have them do a couple of scenes and get to
Speaker 4: the bottom of it. Because if it's all about their
Speaker 4: mom's beef, I don't know. I think that's a major
Speaker 4: part of the story that when I'm getting because are
Speaker 4: y'all that's confusing, I'm like, wait, what is what's the issue.
Speaker 3: That's I'm happy Dusa reminded us of that the original
Speaker 3: beef and it was so bad that they listen.
Speaker 2: I interviewed Porsche I child. I brought Shemia's name.
Speaker 3: She said, I won't ever speak on her ever. Just
Speaker 3: so you know, honey, I love you. I'm not speaking
Speaker 3: on Shemia to you. Portia spoke about Thoulon Simon Cordell.
Speaker 2: She said she asked her all my questions. The moment
Speaker 2: I brought on Shemia, she.
Speaker 3: Was like, I'm not giving you that, So that to
Speaker 3: me was a signal of that text was so bad
Speaker 3: that they and listen. Shamia said my interview with her too,
Speaker 3: she said, we will never be friends. And the sad
Speaker 3: part is and I do feel this way I do
Speaker 3: think it's sad that that's their reality. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: what happens at the reunion, but I just don't know
Speaker 3: how this show can move forward with two women who
Speaker 3: aren't going to ever try to resolve their issue. If
Speaker 3: that's the case, bring back Candy so we can see
Speaker 3: her and Phaedra do it?
Speaker 7: Please, God please, I.
Speaker 3: Would be watching silent treatment from the those two Childelle
Speaker 3: and Toe as well Weha and Toya rushing.
Speaker 8: And I'm just gonna say it, Let's go in to
Speaker 8: make Tamar our friend of the show and really get
Speaker 8: it popping.
Speaker 7: Get to the bottom of it. Y'all want the full story.
Speaker 7: Let's get to the bottom of it. Candy, Tamar, Rashida, Toya.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, came a shill, bring all
Speaker 8: of them in this motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Let's let's let's you know, it's wild, like the things
Speaker 4: that certain people get over. Like some fights are just like,
Speaker 4: all right, we're cool again, although we physically fought each
Speaker 4: other and now we're like lovey Debbie, And then some
Speaker 4: it's like our mom's fought and we'll never speak again
Speaker 4: and f you forever and I don't f with you
Speaker 4: and it's just like but I guess that's human nature
Speaker 4: because I mean I remember being at Kenya's baby shower
Speaker 4: and being like pleasant tour seeing her and portion how
Speaker 4: far they had come and like they were able to
Speaker 4: get over that. I think that was a big deal.
Speaker 4: Cynthia and Portia when they had a fight on a
Speaker 4: boat and someone got kicked in the kuchi and now
Speaker 4: look at how close and then people have been able
Speaker 4: to and not trying to use her for two examples.
Speaker 4: But those are the two things that stick out of
Speaker 4: my mind of coming back from something that's such a
Speaker 4: big deal, right, Even Porscha and Faedia when they had
Speaker 4: their beef, you know, when they got caught up in
Speaker 4: that whole shit with can everything to see like they
Speaker 4: got over that. So that's why I think it's such
Speaker 4: an important thing to get to the bottom of this
Speaker 4: thing with the mamas or whatever it is, because like,
Speaker 4: is it worse than that? Is it worse physically fighting?
Speaker 5: And that's but that's why, like the explanation of Pedra's
Speaker 5: beef with Shamia from season nine is so fucking confusing
Speaker 5: to me because I'm like they're so selective with like
Speaker 5: when and how they want to forgive and that will
Speaker 5: loved give on right, even Angela if her beef is
Speaker 5: really with Shami, because Shami a lap It's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we literally just went through this, right, She's very they're
Speaker 5: all selective and how they want to forgive each other,
Speaker 5: and just taking it back to the original point that
Speaker 5: I make for the sake of objectivity, I do feel
Speaker 5: like Portia and Pedra should have said something to the group.
Speaker 5: You just said, wants to make a good show. She
Speaker 5: knows how to make a good show. She knows we're
Speaker 5: going to see that ship play out. The audience is
Speaker 5: going to see it. It would have been she would
Speaker 5: have shown a lot of integrity had she gone out to.
Speaker 10: The group and been like, this is what just happened
Speaker 10: in the room.
Speaker 2: But in her defense, in her defense.
Speaker 6: Porsia's lawyer, oh.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, I don't know. Listen.
Speaker 3: They call me a flip flopper, a Porsche apologist, they
Speaker 3: called me.
Speaker 2: I don't know who I am today.
Speaker 3: But what I will say, because again we recap based
Speaker 3: on the episode, Okay, I will say in this episode,
Speaker 3: she did tell Shamia, okay, let me let me tell
Speaker 3: her to stop.
Speaker 10: That's a start.
Speaker 4: That's a good start, and I know.
Speaker 2: Oh really, doesn't the cat dot your tongue?
Speaker 4: No, I was trying to speak, Oh, go ahead, thank you,
Speaker 4: I will say that.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is not Portia's job to defend Shamiah, but
Speaker 4: in the interest of wanting to make a good show
Speaker 4: and seeing that she's got being able to get over
Speaker 4: so many things, it would have been a dope moment
Speaker 4: to say. Although I don't ask for Shmia right now,
Speaker 4: obviously old girl was wrong right here, meaning Angela you know,
Speaker 4: or you know, make making a point, not just nudging
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that is also part
Speaker 4: of being like, that's dope. Like people have had to
Speaker 4: walk stuff back on that show all the time or
Speaker 4: say stuff to people that they don't rock with, and
Speaker 4: it's not fun. Trust me, it is not fun. But
Speaker 4: it also shows growth. But I'm not blaming Portra for it.
Speaker 4: It's not Porscha's fault. It's not. But hopefully in the
Speaker 4: future at least now she knows, she knows what's what's
Speaker 4: tea now?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dustin, do you what do you think of Porscha
Speaker 3: telling Smia okay, let me tell her to stop.
Speaker 8: Porscha is one of the more prominent personalities on this show.
Speaker 7: She's the face of the series.
Speaker 8: She's the representation of Atlanta in the upcoming Real Housewives
Speaker 8: Ultimate Girls Trip twentieth Anniversary. She means a lot to
Speaker 8: the franchise. That's leadership shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: That's that, That is how you people love to talk around.
Speaker 8: Oh it's this person's show. It's that person's show. Stuff
Speaker 8: like that is what makes it your show when you
Speaker 8: can get past, you know what I'm saying, your personal issue.
Speaker 8: Her and Shamia literally hate each other right now, and
Speaker 8: she still was like, look, I'm gonna go tell it,
Speaker 8: tell her, let's stop this.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean. That's leadership. That's big dog shit.
Speaker 8: And that's why you get to sit in the first
Speaker 8: chair every year when you do things like that, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean. And so I thought it was great.
Speaker 8: I thought it was great.
Speaker 3: And sorry, no, no, no, piggybacking off of Jasmin's comments
Speaker 3: because what we did learn. The ladies then go and
Speaker 3: have dinner, and Shemiah is busily upset because not only
Speaker 3: does she have proof from Georgia's wife, where George's wife
Speaker 3: and writing did say Angela's weird, and she wanted to
Speaker 3: get information on you, by the way, to be fair
Speaker 3: as a journalist, Angela did tweet today that George is
Speaker 3: it Ashley? Yeah, that George and Ashley they want to
Speaker 3: be on the show, and and she still just played
Speaker 3: and all those things that didn't make any sense to me,
Speaker 3: because Angela, I love you, baby doll.
Speaker 2: You brought them, you brought their name up, So just.
Speaker 7: Own it, Angela.
Speaker 3: Damn every listen, next week you may do something great.
Speaker 3: We'll forget about it, like ye, yes, you still go,
Speaker 3: So it's all good. One thing that was happening was
Speaker 3: now Angela because I think osay after Angela spoke to
Speaker 3: Ashley was like our draw by right, because she was
Speaker 3: mad that she got caught mm hmm fibbing. She then says,
Speaker 3: all right, woll too, so you spoke to my daughter.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's my child, my child. It's like, Angela,
Speaker 3: that girl is over the age of eighteen. Not only
Speaker 3: that Shamiyah was clearly joking, but I felt like Angela
Speaker 3: just wanted to find a way for the girls to
Speaker 3: be mad at Shamiah because she lost that battle and
Speaker 3: Fedra to say that kids are off limits, which I
Speaker 3: will say as producer, Nini Leaks made it because it
Speaker 3: was Nini no shade. Nini Leaks made it a pat
Speaker 3: hiss are off limits.
Speaker 2: And ever since season four when Sear and Saray had
Speaker 2: that back and forth, those girls don't break.
Speaker 3: Up kids, but Faedra also somebody who also said marriages
Speaker 3: are off limits, because when they flashed back you about
Speaker 3: to win mill Kenya, Claudia was there. The man you've
Speaker 3: been sleeping with, the man you have fair women, you
Speaker 3: said m hm. And after you did that, Niini Porsche
Speaker 3: left with you.
Speaker 2: Candy said there her food.
Speaker 3: Kenya was mad at Cynthia because Cynthia failed with information.
Speaker 3: But my point is, y'all said marriages is off limits,
Speaker 3: and I thought, to Jasmin's point, the consistency isn't there
Speaker 3: with what is off limits, because all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you can say kids off limits, but you dealt with
Speaker 3: your marriage being exposed by your husband.
Speaker 2: The girls didn't do it.
Speaker 3: Apollo told Peter if you told Cynthia, Cencia told Claudia
Speaker 3: and Kenya. So after that happened, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you can't say in the same breath, let's not talk
Speaker 3: about each other's marriages, and I felt that to Jason's point,
Speaker 3: that is when being should have been said to have
Speaker 3: at least Tamiya's back.
Speaker 2: But like Esa intimated, they don't like Samiya.
Speaker 3: And I'll end by saying this, I believe they're trying
Speaker 3: to drash me off the show because they know that
Speaker 3: we can't have y'all coexist.
Speaker 7: Well, where do we even want to start?
Speaker 8: First of all, yeah, Fadri did say don't mess with marriages,
Speaker 8: and then two seasons later she did this. She did
Speaker 8: that two seasons later, So pop that.
Speaker 7: Balloon, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: And second of all, Angela taking issue with what Shemia
Speaker 8: said to her daughter.
Speaker 7: I get it, you know, I get it to a
Speaker 7: certain extent.
Speaker 8: I'm the type of person like if I was on
Speaker 8: a show like that and I have beef with somebody,
Speaker 8: I don't care how old their children's were, I wouldn't
Speaker 8: say anything.
Speaker 7: To them about what I had going on with the parent.
Speaker 7: It's just inappropriate. You know.
Speaker 8: That's kind of like black cold a little bit, you know,
Speaker 8: you kind of just you know, you'd be nice to
Speaker 8: the person's kids if y'are't beefed out for real, the
Speaker 8: kids stay out of it. The thing is Amara is
Speaker 8: a grown ass woman, married woman at that and it
Speaker 8: was very reminiscent of Karen Huger. Karen Huger used to
Speaker 8: do that shit on Potomac. My children were affected by this.
Speaker 8: Her children are in their thirties. You know what I'm.
Speaker 7: Saying, she'd be like, my kids were affected by that.
Speaker 8: So it's it's housewives, you know, antiqus. That's all that
Speaker 8: was just she just created a conversation for them to
Speaker 8: have because Angela keeps on putting that arrow in her
Speaker 8: bow and aiming it at Smia, but she keeps on
Speaker 8: missing the bulls eye each time. And what's happening is
Speaker 8: Shamiah is getting increasingly more and more astute in their
Speaker 8: verbal conversation verbal confrontations.
Speaker 7: Her timing is getting better.
Speaker 8: She's getting are comfortable going against whoever throws something at her.
Speaker 8: So they're really just giving Samia Ninja training on how
Speaker 8: to be a housewife who knows how to speak her
Speaker 8: mind whenever it's time to. And I think what we're
Speaker 8: really gonna see because I believe they'll all be back
Speaker 8: next season. I think Samia is gonna have a good
Speaker 8: season next year. I do I think Shamiah will have
Speaker 8: a good season next year, and I think that it
Speaker 8: will come from her being so comfortable saying her piece
Speaker 8: that it won't be from such a defensive place. She'll
Speaker 8: just get her timing better and she's gonna she's gonna
Speaker 8: sharpen her blade as a housewife.
Speaker 7: That's what I think will happen.
Speaker 5: And what they're also doing that I don't think they
Speaker 5: realize they're doing. Anytime you ostracize someone so much coming
Speaker 5: into the season and still right now, there are so
Speaker 5: many people that are like, I don't like Shamia, I
Speaker 5: don't like Shmiya. But they're ostracizing Shmia so much, they're
Speaker 5: going to create this underdog like martyr kind of like
Speaker 5: storyline for her. Audiences love a fucking underdog. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 5: exactly exactly, So they're gonna pick on her so much
Speaker 5: this season.
Speaker 10: The reunion, I don't know how the reunion.
Speaker 5: Goes for her if the reunion also goes badly for
Speaker 5: Shamiyah next season, Shamia is our underdog now now we
Speaker 5: want her to take down all the bitches that were
Speaker 5: so mean to her last season.
Speaker 10: Now the audience doesn't like Angela.
Speaker 5: Now they want to see a Porsha takedown, right, Like
Speaker 5: they're creating a hero and they don't even realize they're
Speaker 5: creating a hero. So they need to stop while they're ahead,
Speaker 5: so that can be a lot more equal and then
Speaker 5: people can hate Shamia, hate the other side, whatever, But yeah,
Speaker 5: they're going to create a hero on her.
Speaker 4: One thousand percent agree. You see it starting to happen
Speaker 4: a little bit. The seeds are already being planted, like
Speaker 4: the reactional. You know, I stay look at the comments
Speaker 4: I've seeing people saying, and the way that the ties
Speaker 4: are turning a little bit. But no one wants to
Speaker 4: see five on one, six on one, seven on one.
Speaker 4: It's boring, and it's like, Okay, now we start having
Speaker 4: other conversations. Okay, Shemida seems to have everything that all
Speaker 4: the girls really want. How dare you also come over
Speaker 4: here and be a housewife and have the peach, You
Speaker 4: got the husband that actually that loves you, you have
Speaker 4: all the money, you at the house, you got this,
Speaker 4: you got that, you got the body or beautiful.
Speaker 7: And you have a beautiful speaking voice.
Speaker 4: She and so the first year she was awkward, you know,
Speaker 4: doing too much. The second year growing pains. I agree
Speaker 4: with you, Dus. I think by next year she's gonna
Speaker 4: be killing it. They are sharpening her right now and
Speaker 4: they are going to create one of the biggest underdog
Speaker 4: stories ever. And I guarant I would put money on that.
Speaker 4: I don't really bet anymore and gamble I used to.
Speaker 4: I had to stop anyway. The way it's going, it
Speaker 4: does seem like that, like she's perfectly set up because
Speaker 4: at the end of this, unless we get some real
Speaker 4: someone better drop a bomb on that reunion where we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: she's fucked out, we can't funk with her. But if
Speaker 4: it's nothing, if it's some little ship, it's gonna it's
Speaker 4: gonna flip, it's gonna help her mother, hurt.
Speaker 10: Her have a big bomb year.
Speaker 3: I think, like Jason said, I I have a feeling
Speaker 3: the bomb is not the smoking gun.
Speaker 2: Angela thinks it is the mom. The mom.
Speaker 7: The bomb is the mom. That's the bomb.
Speaker 3: The bomb, Yes, the Mama's stuff to me.
Speaker 2: Let me tell ya something.
Speaker 3: Next week's episode, there's gonna be a tussle on Monthy
Speaker 3: Night Live the comments and social media because.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm boring.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because when we learn about the mother situation that
Speaker 3: is going to divide.
Speaker 2: The audience in a very clear way.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happens, but bringing up someone, bringing
Speaker 3: up mothers and based on what could have been said,
Speaker 3: is going to draw a wed and I do think
Speaker 3: it can go either way just based on what is revealed.
Speaker 3: But do you want to talk about something funny? In Revelation,
Speaker 3: the girls spoke about their intimacy with women. Pinky said
Speaker 3: that she was in a relationship with a woman for
Speaker 3: three years, going back to Angela's investigation where she revealed
Speaker 3: in a read seven episodes ago that there was a
Speaker 3: woman living in Pinky's basement, which I think we all
Speaker 3: a month and a lie talked about the way it's
Speaker 3: pink and lesbian. I will say this, and I didn't
Speaker 3: want to say anything until she said to her son
Speaker 3: because I don't help people.
Speaker 2: I even knew Pinky like the women.
Speaker 3: I'm not okay, doesn't it too. I don't want to
Speaker 3: say anything. That's her story to tell. She has since
Speaker 3: said it. I've already knew that, Pedra. I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: favor this Phaedra. You were hilarious about her commentary or
Speaker 3: confessional about Pinky and how it is the worst kept
Speaker 3: secret and how she was surprised that Pinky even married
Speaker 3: a man, which, again, if you live in a.
Speaker 2: Landa during that time, Pinky being gay was no secret.
Speaker 2: It just it just wasn't.
Speaker 5: When she said she Jazz got shocked, Well it clicked
Speaker 5: for me, Like when she said she was with a
Speaker 5: woman for three years.
Speaker 6: I was like, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 6: That's what it is.
Speaker 5: So I was listening here like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: so glad that you saw this, Like it was like
Speaker 5: a every time I'm looking at Pinky, I'm.
Speaker 6: Like, something is not adding up here, like what is it?
Speaker 6: And you know what? That takes me back. I literally
Speaker 6: was like I like Pinky now.
Speaker 5: I like Pinky now because I know Pinky now, Like
Speaker 5: the mystery is solved.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm here for her.
Speaker 3: Jazz Claudia where you shocked that Pinky was in a
Speaker 3: lesbian relationship for three years and also said I might
Speaker 3: add that she would do it again and.
Speaker 6: It's not interesting because she's married.
Speaker 2: My point exactly, not at all.
Speaker 4: Like that. She has like energy, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm a whole Yeah I get this, Yes, she does
Speaker 4: get this.
Speaker 2: Beef Claudia or get the strap.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but yes, I'm not surprised, and it's
Speaker 4: not that big of a deal. It's not She's in
Speaker 4: Atlanta like I. It's like the whole city is bisexual.
Speaker 4: So no, basically, yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean everybody has a past, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean. And at least she was woman enough to
Speaker 8: say it out loud, you know, unabashedly.
Speaker 7: I thought that was great.
Speaker 8: I thought that it was I thought everybody, for the
Speaker 8: most part, was keeping the conversation in a mature space.
Speaker 8: And I appreciated that there's a couple of faces made
Speaker 8: here and there, but that's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: So yeah, shout out to Pinky.
Speaker 8: You know you did it, you did it whatever, And
Speaker 8: I love that she said, I'm a grown ask woman.
Speaker 8: And so if I you know what, I if I
Speaker 8: don't want to do it again, I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 7: I know that's right.
Speaker 3: I will say this though, if I was Pinky's husband,
Speaker 3: because one thing that Candy says season nine, when Marlow
Speaker 3: Patrice Hampton from Saint Petersburg, Florida, asked the iconic question.
Speaker 2: Candy, are you a lesson right? And Candy said I
Speaker 2: love my husband. I love my husband. I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: last me or right, and I remember, like, what's the difference.
Speaker 3: I never understood why that was important to say, because
Speaker 3: I don't think you love Todd any less because you
Speaker 3: like women.
Speaker 2: I never understood that. But when Kinky.
Speaker 3: Made that comment that I'll do it again, I did
Speaker 3: think about Derek, her husband, and how he would feel
Speaker 3: knowing that way are you but but you're married to me,
Speaker 3: we have four kids, right, Like now even think that
Speaker 3: you would be with another woman after me or reading
Speaker 3: too much into.
Speaker 8: It, yeah, because most of the time guys don't they're
Speaker 8: not they don't see when most of the time, when
Speaker 8: I've seen men who have partners that are bisexual women
Speaker 8: or women that have dated women, right, I have never
Speaker 8: seen a man in that circumstance feel like the woman
Speaker 8: was any competition or her attraction to women was infringing
Speaker 8: upon you know, their their union in any way. So
Speaker 8: I don't even he doesn't strike me as a type
Speaker 8: of person who is intimidated by that. Obviously, for her
Speaker 8: to say it on camera, it means that it was
Speaker 8: something that they've already talked about, and we saw how
Speaker 8: attentive he was to her, and that scene when she
Speaker 8: revealed that she was even going through the bankruptcy issues
Speaker 8: and stuff, that didn't strike me as a man who
Speaker 8: was less than confident in his union with his wife.
Speaker 7: So I don't think that he is affected or swayed
Speaker 7: by that.
Speaker 8: That's probably something they joke about, probably something they talk
Speaker 8: shit to each other about, and probably.
Speaker 7: Who knows where they're at with that.
Speaker 8: But I don't think that he doesn't strike me as
Speaker 8: insecure about her having an attraction to women at all.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, for.
Speaker 3: You guys, Shamia revealed that she's never been with a woman.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm only basing off the episode.
Speaker 3: The reaction shot of Porsche her soup made me holler
Speaker 3: as if Shamia wasn't telling the entire truth.
Speaker 2: What we do know is when Shemia was on the
Speaker 2: Shade Room, she said happy Pride.
Speaker 3: When they said we're going to say her name, tell
Speaker 3: me the first thing that comes to mind.
Speaker 2: That was for Portia. Porsia then said happy.
Speaker 3: Pride to you to Cornball see you at the reunion,
Speaker 3: which we all took like, are you about to spell
Speaker 3: Shamia's t if she was been with a woman? I
Speaker 3: did ask Shami at our interview. Have you ever been
Speaker 3: with a woman? She said no. I said, have you
Speaker 3: ever kissed Candy?
Speaker 2: She said no.
Speaker 3: Did you believe her jazz Man when Shamia said she's
Speaker 3: never been with a woman.
Speaker 5: Uh No, But I don't think it's for me to
Speaker 5: believe or not right, Like, I don't.
Speaker 6: I'm trying. I'm trying to choose my words here because.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not saying it like I'm like I think
Speaker 5: she's a lesbian or like trying to like, I just
Speaker 5: feel like that that Bolo episode of Bolo episodes, I
Speaker 5: was like, there's something there, there's a there there. I
Speaker 5: don't know if I ever bought into like her with
Speaker 5: Candy or anything. To be honest, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 5: to y'all. I just assume that like Candy just gets
Speaker 5: with most of the most of the women, Like I
Speaker 5: feel like Candy just gets bitchous, so like her. Hearing
Speaker 5: that her and Shmia might have been together before that
Speaker 5: was not really like a gag to me because I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't. I just I feel that from Candy, right,
Speaker 5: Like if I was single, Candy would probably be able
Speaker 5: to pick me up in the club, you know, what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, energy in candy, Right, it's candy.
Speaker 4: You gotta going on, she's cool shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that wasn't but yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 5: think I too was laughing a little bit when they
Speaker 5: cut to Portia. I also laughed when Drew said she
Speaker 5: had never been with a woman, because I was.
Speaker 7: Like, we all did, child.
Speaker 2: You still.
Speaker 6: Tried to all the ladies on the Real House.
Speaker 8: My god, she didn't. Flat out They showed Drew saying
Speaker 8: I've never kissed a girl.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have kiss the girl before. Like it literally
Speaker 7: was like shown the lot.
Speaker 3: Yes, And Drew said in my interview with her last year,
Speaker 3: she said that her and Tye Young, Claudia's best friend,
Speaker 3: they had energy, it was.
Speaker 2: Emotion, and she flirty and all those things.
Speaker 3: Now, granted she didn't say that her and tie had
Speaker 3: whatever sex, but she did say that they were whatever
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 2: But I was like, Drew, it's okay.
Speaker 3: But I definitely think because Drew is a PK, a
Speaker 3: preacher's kid, I do think there's just and again it's
Speaker 3: at your own time, but I think Drew forgot that girl.
Speaker 2: You kind of already told us that you woman, But
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she did say solely, she did say she wouldn't
Speaker 5: solely be with the woman. But that also that's that
Speaker 5: was the gag, Jeff, Miss Taylor, that was what made
Speaker 5: it funny, her saying she wouldn't towly be with the woman.
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I don't know if you're telling the
Speaker 5: truth about I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the truth.
Speaker 4: I was about to draw a picture of a horse
Speaker 4: on the side, Claudia, I have not been in any
Speaker 4: of these people's bedroom. That's not my cousin.
Speaker 2: For a change, Okay, s I'm trying.
Speaker 5: Interesting that you choose to do it with with Drew,
Speaker 5: that is interesting. What interesting that you choose Toplete the
Speaker 5: fifth when it comes to Drew tru selected.
Speaker 6: You housewives are so selective.
Speaker 4: We are. I admit my I admit it. I admit
Speaker 4: it one thousand percent. I definitely have smoked for some
Speaker 4: and not for all. Yep, I am that chick.
Speaker 6: Respect Yep, yeah, I will be.
Speaker 4: I will live. I'm living in my truth in this
Speaker 4: prime month. Okay. That's my truth, my heterosexual truth.
Speaker 2: Not pride truth. Okay. So moving on to.
Speaker 3: The other thing that happened in this episode is the
Speaker 3: fact that I really did enjoy this episode. So at
Speaker 3: the end, Kelly reveals that her now ex husband assuming
Speaker 3: Bravo for two hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 4: Months ago, like it hasn't damaged his reputation because we
Speaker 4: don't know your name.
Speaker 7: I don't know ignorance is bliss. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2: I don't just go yes, it was, it was. It
Speaker 2: was definitely weird to see that.
Speaker 3: What I think was this I first of all, I
Speaker 3: give this episode a ten out of a ten. I
Speaker 3: really enjoyed this episode. It had funny moments, it has shade,
Speaker 3: it had drama. This scene between the lady Cynthia, Kelly,
Speaker 3: Phaedra Porsche and Drew having a sisterhood moment that you
Speaker 3: felt how genuine it was that the ladies were relating on.
Speaker 2: What happens when you are going through a divorce.
Speaker 3: Drew crying about being scared for her Portia talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, the reasons why she is keeping her house.
Speaker 3: You know people are saying, don't keep it. But not
Speaker 3: only was it giving back to her courtesy of her
Speaker 3: ironclad prenup, but she didn't want her daughter to be
Speaker 3: misplaced from something that is different. After experiencing, you know,
Speaker 3: not having signment in the house anymore. So I thought
Speaker 3: this scene was incredible and even Phaedra praying and crying
Speaker 3: about her situation and Cynthia talking about what what what
Speaker 3: what went down?
Speaker 2: Excuse me? With her divorces.
Speaker 3: Schellar stellar Stellar Spellar and more of this, please.
Speaker 8: Yes, please, This is the ship that makes the show real, right,
Speaker 8: These are the scenes that make us actually believe that
Speaker 8: these women give a damn about each other. This is
Speaker 8: what makes us believe that they're you know, their conflict
Speaker 8: is real. All of that is when they can actually
Speaker 8: show some real ship like this. So I definitely appreciated
Speaker 8: this scene. And I thought Phaedra was great in this
Speaker 8: scene personally. She did a great.
Speaker 6: Job turned into pastors.
Speaker 10: I really, yes, I agree.
Speaker 4: I felt the spirit mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: I did too.
Speaker 5: It's all real sisterhood, trust, bunding, real friendship between the.
Speaker 6: Squad and Bunding.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I loved it.
Speaker 5: I will say, you know, like I am, I can
Speaker 5: be critical of of well, of all shows, but of
Speaker 5: this show. This this has been such a really good
Speaker 5: season for them, like they're you know, not every episode
Speaker 5: this season has been a hit, but overall as a season.
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna look back on this as like
Speaker 5: one of their better seasons and like see the later era, right,
Speaker 5: So I really appreciate what they're doing. I want everybody
Speaker 5: to come back next season. Like I know the girls
Speaker 5: are saying not to bring bax Sha, Media, Kelly, whoever.
Speaker 5: They need all of these ladies to come back next season.
Speaker 5: I think they have really found something special with this group.
Speaker 4: I agree. You know, I don't love all the girls
Speaker 4: like Carlos, but this scene makes me like all the girls. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I really did. Like I feel like they were all like, well,
Speaker 4: they all have redeeming moments and qualities, and it sucks
Speaker 4: that they all couldn't be there to all get the
Speaker 4: same love because Tom is still left out of it.
Speaker 4: But like you know, they all have gone through stuff,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like even though the ones
Speaker 4: you like the ones you hate, they have all gone
Speaker 4: through some stuff. And even I mean, that's the first
Speaker 4: time I seen like even Phaser getting emotional. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm not here for her at all, but actually she
Speaker 4: was very likable in this scene. I thought, more vulnerable
Speaker 4: than I've ever seen her. I thought it made it
Speaker 4: like because at some point you're like, Okay, you just
Speaker 4: can't be about faces and name brands and money, right,
Speaker 4: Like we we want to see something. And that's what
Speaker 4: my issue is with some of these people. It's not
Speaker 4: real and it's not sustainable, and no one in real
Speaker 4: life is like that in real life. But we all
Speaker 4: can relate to bad breakups. We all can relate to
Speaker 4: a man changing up on you after you, like, have
Speaker 4: you going through a breakup? Every woman or man really
Speaker 4: can relate to that. We all can relate to heartbreak.
Speaker 4: And now that's what made this scene dope. And I
Speaker 4: know people be saying my cousin Jubi lying, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I've seen her, I've worked with our movies and I've
Speaker 4: seen her work. She wasn't acting in that scene. Her
Speaker 4: nose was red. She looked like she was really having
Speaker 4: a moment. She really was feeling it right, And I
Speaker 4: just felt like they all gave something authentic and it
Speaker 4: was so nice to see the moment with like Porscha
Speaker 4: and Kelly, with Porscha had her hand on Kelly's leg,
Speaker 4: and I do think Porscha does have respect for Kelly
Speaker 4: because Kelly stood around with her kiss harassed and she
Speaker 4: earned that respect, you know what I mean, Like there's
Speaker 4: a respect there and I love that because you know, listen,
Speaker 4: it's cute when they get an argument when it's unexpected,
Speaker 4: but not when it's expected every single week, and goddamn it,
Speaker 4: we are sick and tired of it being like that
Speaker 4: on ten and I thought this, that's the whole episode
Speaker 4: was good with that scene with greats. It was great
Speaker 4: to see, is it.
Speaker 5: Do we point out that neither Angela nor Shamia were there?
Speaker 5: Like does that happy happen if one or both of
Speaker 5: them were in the room.
Speaker 6: I don't know. And that's the way.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 5: After I was celebrating how good of a scene it was,
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know that we get that
Speaker 5: scene if Angela was in there or Shemia was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think there's both a there's still desire
Speaker 4: to get a little jab in, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 4: but it was, it was so good.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 4: Out of it for to have some peaceful dinging then,
Speaker 4: so be it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought of was I listen?
Speaker 3: I thought it was incredible, incredible, incredible episode.
Speaker 2: All right, Ray Dawns, I'll see y'all tomorrow on my YouTube.
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Speaker 2: Love you guys.
Speaker 3: Hi.
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