1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Mmmm, Welcome to the State of the Lakers post game 2 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: show from our season opener against the Warriors and incredibly 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: frustrating games, probably one of the top two or three 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: most frustrating games that I can remember watching in this 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Lebron era with the Lakers. So I'm a little annoyed 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm sure most of you are too. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: And Roger and I are going to talk about the 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: game for five minutes or so, and then we're gonna 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: get you guys up here to vent um roj We're 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: we're what's your headspace like right now? Where you at? Mentally? 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: So this is I predicted them to lose tonight, and like, 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: I guess my first just overall look at this is 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: they gave zero crap about the preseason I mean all 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: that stuff we were talking about trying to break down 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: preseason games, and then you look at tonight, if of 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: like they were just playing a completely different sport and 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: just like that competitiveness was there in the first quarter, 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: and I predicted that the Warriors would win. I just 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: thought they looked a lot more comfortable, a lot more ready. 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: This team looks like it fits what Kerr wants to 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: do on offense. So I guess that's my first look 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: is that the Warriors look good. They look legit even 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: without Clay Thompson, and then the fit with us is 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: still not there, right, And I guess that's the place 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: we can go to. But for me, I want to 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: start with the good. So where do you want to start? 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: Do you want to start with Lebron or do you 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: want to start with a D. I think those are 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the two, I guess bright spots that you can say 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: about this game. So yeah, we will we will start 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: with the positive. I will try my hart ist I. 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: I also predicted the Lakers would lose this game, but 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: I predicted they would lose the game because I thought 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: they were playing bad basketball in general in the preseason. 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: Just with their effort level and their focus and their 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: attention to detail. They seemed like a team to me 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: that hadn't really hit that gear yet. And one of 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: my consistent basketball philosophies is that you can't do that overnight. 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Like you that is something that is a ball that 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: has to get rolling, and usually if you run into 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: a team who's playing at that level and you are not, 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: you will lose. And that's what I expected to happen. 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: But today I also tweeted out that the one case 44 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: here would be what Lebron was talking about, the fact 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: that they've been having good practices, and that appears to 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: be true. It appears that they've been having good practices 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: and that has led to the defensive intensity that we 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: saw basically through the first two and a half quarters. Um, 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: obviously that's not what happened. We're going to get into that. 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: The positives though, and this to me is actually a 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: little concerning. Is Lebron and a d look like two 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: of the top five players in the world something On 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor, they look fantastic. Lebron looks 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: every good as good as he has in his time 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: as a Laker, both athletically getting where he needs to 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: on the floor with his with his uh, you know, 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: his mobility, and also with his touch and his feel 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and his passing and all stuff. He looks great. Anthony Davis, 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: My main concern with him in the preseason was not 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: how he looks physically, because he looks great. I was 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: just worried about his jumper because he seems to be 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: in a pretty extended jump shooting slop, and he shopped 63 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: the ball pretty well today, but think with exception of 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: the free throw line, so there was so much good 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: on that side of things, and I I want to 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: make sure that we point that out. However, that's what 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: scares me, is like the whole point of this formula 68 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: is that when Lebron and a D look good, you 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: lose the other team. I mean, and in this case, 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: like the Lakers really didn't even have a chance to 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: win with how bad it was there at the end, 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and so that that has to be concerning, I think, 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I think, and that's unfortunate. But anyway, what was your 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: opinion first look at the Lebron in a d uh 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: situation to start those seasons. Yeah, so obviously it was 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit concerning. Like I wasn't worried about him 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: in preseason, but they just didn't look in rhythm. So 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: we talked about it all the time, like that is 79 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: the most important thing of the season. And we can 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: break down the other guys, you know, Russell Westbrooks Fair, 81 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: we can break down the xs and knows how ugly 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the spacing is, but those two guys are on. That's 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: the core you built around this, right, This is a 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: whole new, revamped team a bunch of you guys, him, 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: A D, Lebron, THHD Rondo, right, and do I that's 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: the core. But your core is Lebron and a D. 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: Those two have to show up or you don't have 88 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: a chance to win anyway, right, So those two being 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: your ground floor and you can build around that. And 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: I thought they looked great. I thought a D his 91 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: jumper was going by. I don't even want to kind 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: of consider that because that looks like it's going to 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: be up and down as the season goes. But he 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: was attacking the rim, right, he had Wantascano Anderson on him, 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: and it was just you know, spin moved right to 96 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: the basket, get foul or and Rondo and him had 97 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: a connection on laws as well. It's good to see 98 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: him being a vertical threat being up in the air, Um, 99 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: not just everything has a jumped out. His three pointer 100 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: wasn't there either, but just seeing attacking the rim, Lebron 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: was hitting his jumper and like he wasn't really going 102 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: to the basket because he didn't have to. His jumper 103 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: looked on and you could tell he felt it. Um. 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: He was hitting for mid range and it was kind 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: of masking and all the ugly Lakers offense right, um, 106 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: because because his jumper was going, but he looked good 107 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: physically as well. He was getting down the court and 108 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: defensively man. So so I want to ask you about this, 109 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: because they trapped Steff pretty much all game right until 110 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: like the end of the third or fourth, or they 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: trapped Steff all game, and seeing Lebron defend that way, 112 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: it is just something I haven't seen even last season. 113 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: You saw it in bits and parts, but just him 114 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: as his help defender, man, because when you trapped Steff, 115 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: you need a guy people to rotate, and I thought 116 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: he was awesome on that. Anthony David's as well. Covered 117 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: up for a million defensive mistakes man, especially those Carmelo 118 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Rondo Westbrook lineups next to a D and a D. 119 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Pretty much had to clean up everything, and he was 120 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: doing a pretty nice job of it. And I thought 121 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: the Warriors would eventually take the lead. Their three point 122 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: shooting would eventually come up. They took fourteen threes in 123 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: the first half, which is way below what they usually 124 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: go to, so I knew that would kind of pick up. 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: And plus it's tough to play a trapping scheme as 126 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: long as they did, that's just really tiring for defense, 127 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: and I thought that would kind of catch up to him. 128 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: So that was my kind of takeaways. I thought, ad 129 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: Lebron looked great, and then from there, I guess we 130 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: can kind of iv into everything else. But it's good 131 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: to have that foundation. I guess that gives me a 132 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a about the fresh air from from 133 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: seeing this tonight. Yeah, let me give that as the 134 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: silver lining here is that with Lebron and A D 135 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: looking this good, Frank should be able to find a way, 136 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: um to to make this work. And and for the record, 137 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: most of the Lebron, especially the Lebron A D lineups 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: looks great in this game. And to your point, with 139 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis being able to clean things up 140 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: on the back end, it makes the job so much 141 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: easier for the other guys on the floor. And this 142 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: is kind of where I think Frank lost me in 143 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: terms of the tactical approach to this game. You know, 144 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: you and I have talked throughout the preseason about like, 145 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, a base like a base floor level of 146 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: talent that you have to have on the floor on 147 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor in order for things to 148 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: function right, Like if you have too little shooting, once 149 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: you cross a certain threshold, then Lebron and they d 150 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: won't be able to do their job. Abobs, if you 151 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: have two little defensive talent on the floor, then people 152 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: won't be able to do their jobs. And you know, 153 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing that was frustrating for me, is like, 154 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: how can you possibly I think it's a good idea 155 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: to play Mellow and Rondo at the same time. Like that, 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 1: that to me is asking for those guys to fail 157 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: because on their best day they can maybe feel a 158 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: very small role next to elite defensive players. You know, Mellow, 159 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: you had some stretches there early in the game where 160 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: he looked okay defensively when he was with the better players, 161 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: but they're in the in the middle of the third quarter, 162 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: it was one of the worst stretches of defense that 163 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: I've seen from him, and then he obviously made some 164 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: mistakes in the fourth quarter as well. That to me 165 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: is that the you know, Frank understands that he does. 166 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: I know he does, especially with his defensive approach to 167 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the game. So I just genuinely didn't understand. And I 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: know people have talked about injuries and I get that, like, 169 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, Rondo's minutes, they're going to go to Kendrick 170 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: Nunn at some point, you know, like some of these 171 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: wing minutes, probably all of DeAndre Jordan's minutes are going 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: to go to Trevor Reza at some point. Like there 173 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: is going to be you know, a greener pastor on 174 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: the other side of this that injury luck they've had 175 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: to start the season. However, right now he still has 176 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: better options than what he's putting out there, and just 177 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: the way he's mixing this up and and I was, 178 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: I was, it was frustrating to watch that because it 179 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: just seemed to me like, like, as a coach, how 180 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: do you not see that when you play Westbrook Rondo, 181 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Molik Monk, Carmelo Anthony, and Anthony Davis, that that lineup 182 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: is not gonna be able to guard, especially against a 183 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: team that has at any given moment two or three 184 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: guys that can put the ball on the floor and 185 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: get to the basket and shoot off the dribble like 186 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,479 Speaker 1: that's your It's just it just was annoying and frustrating 187 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: for me as a fan to watch that when my 188 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: inferior or basketball mines compared to Frank Vogel could put 189 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: two and two together and realized that wasn't gonna work, 190 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Right, look, this is year 191 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: three of Frank Vogel, Like like we're not new to this. 192 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Frank Vogeo is not new to this. He plays vets, right, 193 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna play his vets. And I always thought, you know, 194 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Rondo came in and said he would play Jerry Dudley Rowland. 195 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that's true when the team is healthy, but right now, 196 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: who's our backup guard? Like you talked about Kendrick Dunn 197 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: is out? I feel like those minutes would go to 198 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: th h T as well. Carmelo is getting the reason 199 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: minutes probably right um leik Monica as well. Isn't I 200 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: think fully healthy? But but we'll see. But it's funny 201 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: seeing the kind of timeline go crazy on Carmelo, saying 202 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: like you should just stand in the corner and to me, 203 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: to me, twenty six minutes to night for Carmelo was 204 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: too high, Like I've always said, always said that, Like 205 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: I thought ten to fifteen minutes to night was fine 206 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: for him. And look, he did his job tonight. Like 207 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: if you're expecting Melo to go and you know read 208 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: these splits, uh, these split post actions that the warriors 209 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: run and able to come out on Steph and able 210 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: to hedge high like his job is to kind of 211 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: trap and he I thought he did his job fairly 212 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: well in that and to cook for a little while. 213 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: He he did push an offensive run right, and then 214 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: he got, you know, a little happy with his post 215 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: ups and stuff. So I don't know, like blaming Carmela 216 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: for that. It's tough to me. And I want to 217 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: ask you, what do you He made a critical, critical 218 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: defensive error when the game was I think it was 219 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: back to two and he was guarding a step a 220 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: Steph Curry pick and roll and didn't even come out 221 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: above the top of the key and I and I 222 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: literally was just like that, the game is in the balance, 223 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: and you need to have guys on the floor who 224 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: understand the way that that Steph Curry pick and roll 225 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: can change the complexion of the game and understand the 226 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: job that you have there in that pick and role, 227 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: and that that to me is mellow. Throughout his career, 228 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: for better or worse, has not had to worry about 229 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: that stuff because of the role that he's had on 230 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: those teams when he was in his prime, and and 231 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: that that to me is just like it to me 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: was the kind of the epitome of what we've been 233 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: worried about coming into this is just you know, these 234 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: particular guys, you can count on them for small stretches, 235 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: like you're saying, for small roles. But when it's middle 236 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter and Steph just checks in at 237 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: the six minute mark and that's Carmelo Anthony defending the 238 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,239 Speaker 1: screener and a pick and roll, Steph Curry is salivating 239 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: at them. That's what he wants to see. And I 240 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: just feel like there were better options, but that I 241 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: digress anywhere. Yeah, and they picked on him a lot 242 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: all night, right, They brought up whoever Carmelo was guarding 243 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: and made him the screener. And again that's going to happen, 244 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: like I and I just don't I feel like you 245 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: can get away with one bad defender like we talked about, 246 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: But just the Rondo Westbrook mellow lineups, and I think 247 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Malik Monk also out there next to a D. That's 248 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: just a lot for a D to cover. And the 249 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: Warriors are one of the best ball movement motion offense 250 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: teams in the league, and that's just really tough to stop. 251 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: They drive and kick really well, and they got us 252 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: in the rotation a bunch. And again I thought in 253 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: the first half our defense was okay, But those those 254 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: end of the quarter kind of runs, I think we 255 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: gave up a bunch of runs just to end the quarter. Right. 256 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: Whenever lebron would come out or a d will come 257 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: out and just get a little break before the end 258 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: of quarters, the Warriors will go on a run, whether 259 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: Steff was on the floor or nine. I thought that 260 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: was pretty much what decided the game. And in the 261 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they went on that run without Steph 262 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: even on the floor, I thought that was a pretty 263 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: bad moment. But I want to ask you about DeAndre 264 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Jordan's because I see a lot of a lot of 265 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: people upset at him, and I have my thoughts. I 266 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: guess it's funny like I gave the Javail comps and 267 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: the first play of the game we ran was when 268 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: we won the tip and he immediately ran to the rim. 269 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: I got a lot dunk, which is exactly the play 270 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: that they would run with Javel every single time that 271 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: you want to want to tip. But I want to 272 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: ask you, like, what do you think of Javelle? Sorry 273 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: not Javelle, excuse me. DeAndre Jordan's uh tonight was a 274 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: plus two on the night and he only played twelve minutes, 275 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, so it's tough for me to blame the 276 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: game on him when he only played twelve minutes to night, 277 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: But what do you think of DeAndre Jordan's at center? Okay, 278 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna vent here again for a second, so I 279 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: apologize in advance for people because I'm gonna sound very annoyed. 280 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, of course he was plushed. He was playing 281 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: alongside Lebron James and Anthony Davison, Russell Westbrook. They made 282 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: his job and you know, and and what what's what 283 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: was frustrating for me is again you have to look 284 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: at the bigger picture here, and they play DeAndre Jordan 285 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: to look at the bigger picture. Their thought process is 286 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: we need to keep our centers engaged, because apparently DeAndre 287 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: Jordan isn't enough of a professional to realize that if 288 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: he's not in the rotation for you know, ten games, 289 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: but then Dwight takes a break, but that's his time 290 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to play. Like, for whatever reason, they can't kind of 291 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: figure that concept out because they used to do the 292 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: same thing with Javail McGee for whatever reason. But the 293 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: point is, they didn't score for the first three minutes 294 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: of the second half, and uh, when they finally did, 295 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: I think the Warriors were on a eight to two 296 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: run or something like that at that point, blowing whatever 297 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: progress you had established in the first half. Why did 298 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: they not score in the first three minutes of the 299 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: second half? You tell me? Was it a lack of space? 300 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Was it the fact that you had essentially useless offensive 301 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: body on the floor like that? That That's the kind 302 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: of thing that I look at here is as far 303 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, Yes, you're gonna win those minutes because 304 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: of how good or stars are. But if instead of 305 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: being plus two with your starters, maybe your plus twelve 306 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: with your starters, because that's what should happen when you 307 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: have Lebron James and Anthony Davis on the court at 308 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: the same time and you're you're willingly sacrificing points for 309 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: the sake of of catering to this person's emotions, and 310 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, and I get it. Some people have pointed 311 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: out to me today, Hey, you had injuries. Uh, you know, 312 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: two guards and wings. That puts you in the position 313 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: where DeAndre Jordan has to play. I call absolute horship 314 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: on that part of my language. And the reason why 315 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: is because when you actually look at the way Um 316 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Lebron and A D defend on the back line, they 317 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: when the two of them are on the court together, 318 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: size is not an issue. It's absolutely not an issue. 319 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: And when you get into other lineups, when Lebron or 320 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: a D on the floor by themselves, that's when you 321 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: need to have somebody like a a Dwight Howard on 322 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: the floor to help with the overall size of the lineup, 323 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, or you know, like I've always preached, 324 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: like if you're gonna play Carmelo playing with Anthony Davis 325 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: that well, like you discussed, so that Anthony Davis can 326 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: help clean up some of his mistakes. But at the 327 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, they had options, Austin reeves when 328 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: you actually look at what they need from that role, 329 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: because you know what, and Carmelo's post ups aren't actually 330 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: moving the needle. They might help you rescue the occasional 331 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: possession here or there, but they aren't actually moving in 332 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: the needle. When you look at what you need from 333 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves to do while he's on the floor, guard, 334 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: get over the top of screens, help but with box outs, help, 335 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: crash the glass, run the floor, and transition, you know, 336 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: defend like crazy, all that stuff. When you look at 337 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: what you're asking him to do, he can succeed in 338 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: that role. And that was where I got was frustrated 339 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: with it is you had the ability to make sure 340 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: that your baseline size and baseline physicality was still there 341 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: without playing DeAndre Jordan's. And I don't think it's a 342 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: coincidence that the Lakers couldn't score to start the second half. 343 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: I absolutely think that was because of DeAndre Jordan's but 344 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: that's for sure. And I kind of disagree with you 345 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: that it's only to what's called cater to DeAndre Jordan's right, 346 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: because I think this is Vogel again to me with 347 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: this is our third year with him. He's a counterpuncher, right, 348 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: so he's gonna go with what he likes. He likes 349 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: that two big lineup. I think that's no secret. I 350 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: think he said that as well. And I think he 351 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: likes Dwight Howard in the in that kind of backup role. 352 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: And to me, again, six minutes every half, I don't 353 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: think that's why they lost his lost his game. And 354 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: again it is a trade off between offensive defense and 355 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan is not going to be able to come 356 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: out onto Step. But I thought there were a few 357 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: players where, like you saw, kind of the structure of 358 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the defense they well, even if DeAndre Jordan is not 359 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: the correct guy to place in it, where like bays 360 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Moore would you know, fight fight over step Chase Steph 361 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: and then give him back pressure while DJ is kind 362 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: of waiting in the lane and you have a D 363 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: and Lebron kind of roaming trying to trying to guard 364 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: three on two and stuff like that on the on 365 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the back side. Like, I think that's kind of the 366 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: structure they want. And again it was just six minutes 367 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: in each half. And I don't think he decided this game. 368 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he helped the game either. I think 369 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: it's just some thing that a D obviously likes. And 370 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: again maybe injuries is the excuse why he can start 371 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: right now, but I just think that's where it is 372 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: with DeAndre Jordan. So that's kind of my take on DJ. 373 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: But again, like to be clear, I thought he was 374 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: a little I thought he was. I thought he had 375 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: stretches in the preseason where he where he was a 376 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: little bit more you know, driven with his motor and 377 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: he was moving and actually getting down in the defensive 378 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: stance and trying to be mobile and trying to be 379 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: impactful defensively. Like I thought he was really good against 380 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: the Kings the other night, but but tonight in particular, 381 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: he just wasn't good. He did like when when when 382 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Namanza b Elites or not or Kevin Looney, I should say, 383 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: when Kevin Looney catches the ball on the block and 384 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: he can very easily just pump fake you out of 385 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: your shoes and just go to the other side and finish, 386 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: Like that's the one that we need you to shut down, 387 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That's an easy job. You're 388 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: seven ft or your sixpen and you're relatively mobile. You 389 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: should be able to keep Keevan Looney from scoring if 390 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't have an obvious advantage against you. And and 391 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things where I thought that 392 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: like he he wasn't as good as he could have been. 393 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: But also I think depending on him in that starter role, 394 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a mistake. I think that's I called it. 395 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: Point shaving today is a joke, and to be clear, 396 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: I was joking. But to be clear, I think for 397 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the for whatever the size, whatever it is that he 398 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: is obsessed with with having size on the floor, I 399 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: think the trade off on the other end is actually 400 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: negatively impacting the team. Yeah, And like my biggest issue 401 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: where I was going with this with the like starting lineup, 402 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: and again I've talked about it. I don't mind the 403 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: six minutes to start each half because he's not going 404 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: to play when it matters. But my biggest issue is 405 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: that we're seeing a D only play the five next 406 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: to Carmelo, right, so we're not seeing any Lebron in 407 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: a D at the four or five, which is where 408 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: you get that advantage, right where Lebron kind of moves 409 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: down a vision and he's able to play the four 410 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: and still and they still be this physical monster. When 411 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: you put Carmelo at that spot, I just feel like 412 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: it makes it a lot different, especially with the struggles 413 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: that Russ is having as well. It's it's really weird, 414 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: like we ran our offense through Avery Bradley to close 415 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: the game, like it was like Harmelo Avery Bradley, Lebron 416 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: a D I believe to close the game and we're 417 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: running our offense through Bradley. And just a quick funny 418 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: thing on Avery Bradley. He wasn't here last season, but 419 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: it's funny how they just went right back to running 420 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: actions they ran with him in nineteen. It was like 421 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: dribble handoff that he likes to do, kind of come 422 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: off and you saw him feed a D and he 423 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: hit his corner three is just funny um to kind 424 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: of see him get minutes. But yeah, that's my biggest 425 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: issue with that is that we don't get enough Lebron 426 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: and a D at the four or five with Russ 427 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: actually as well. I think that would help us as well, 428 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: just in terms of spacing and stuff. We see Russ 429 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: like playing next to Melow and again Melo counts space, 430 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of times he goes into the 431 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: post um. But I guess we can kind of move 432 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: on from that. Let's talk about the big thing that's 433 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: going to be. I guess the storyline every single night. 434 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't think this is going away the last you first, like, 435 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: what what do you think of Russ tonight? This is 436 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: day one. I want people to remember that this is 437 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: day number one of Russell Westbrook, a regular season Russell Westbrook. 438 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: What do you see from us and night and in totality. 439 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: So I talked about this with you and Mr Jason 440 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: Maples in the UH the other day, and so I'm 441 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: to be clear and I have to disclose this up front. 442 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: I I have a preconceived notion of this move. I 443 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't like the trade when it happened. I thought it 444 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: would negatively impact the team. So that's probably gonna color 445 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: my analysis to some extent. So I want to disclose 446 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: that up front. That's set right now. Russ is a 447 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: bad basketball player. He cannot shoot. He has poor shots selection, 448 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: he has poor drive selection. He's looks like a bowl 449 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: in a china shop. He there were several possessions in 450 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: the second half where when he had absolutely no angle 451 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: or spacing or even any real, you know, vision of 452 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: what the defense was doing and what his advantage was. 453 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: He would just put his head down and go into 454 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: the lane and either throw some stupid thing up at 455 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: the room that had no chance of going in or 456 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: turn it over get an offensive foul. And then on defense, 457 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: he was actually pretty good to start the game, but 458 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I thought as the game progressed, he got sloppier and 459 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: sloppier on that end, and a lot of this I 460 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: need to watch the film. I need to go back 461 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow and get a really good clear look at uh, 462 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, the totality of his impact on the game. 463 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: There was a couple of stretches there at the second 464 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: in the second half where like he started crashing the 465 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: boards really hard. He actually salvaged a couple of possessions 466 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: with his athleticism, But right now he's not a good 467 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: basketball player. Will that change? Probably? Everyone who ever has 468 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: talked about Russ tells us that he struggles to start 469 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the season as he figures out what his fit is, 470 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: and then he kind of kicks it into gear at 471 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: some point along the way. I thoroughly expect him to 472 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: have nights with the Lakers where he looks good, but 473 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: this kind of thing to me, like he he If 474 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: you had to assign a blame Pie for this loss, 475 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I think he deserves the biggest chunk because of the 476 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: amount of of possessions he hemorrhaged and the way that 477 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: that ended up costing the team during the two pivotal runs, 478 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: which was at the end of the third quarter and 479 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: then they're in the in the fourth quarter. So like 480 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: from that perspective, again, I'm biased. I didn't think this 481 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: would work really great. So throughout the year, I'm probably 482 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: gonna sound frustrated. You guys should be prepared for that. 483 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: That said, I thought today was kind of your textbook 484 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: example of bad Russ and the way that it can 485 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: hurt a basketball team. And that's going to be really 486 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: annoying for me this year, And honestly, I'm gonna have 487 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: to like work on my work on my patients. Yeah, 488 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: I mean, so when we did when they did the 489 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: space on about preseason and we talked about how it's 490 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: like process over results, right, and I even though this 491 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: is the regular season, you still kind of have to 492 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: look at it that way because I feel like Russ 493 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: is looking at it that way, and I can only 494 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: go by what my expectation was of him and what 495 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: we can see now, right, And I'm shocked how and 496 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: again this is day one, so it's not some huge 497 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: take care, but I'm shocked how much he's trying to 498 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: guess a us to the team. Like if you remember 499 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: when Russ came to the Lakers, it was more like, hey, 500 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: we have to try to calm Russ down right or 501 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: try to make him fit in. And it feels like 502 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: this is the opposite problem, which I don't know is 503 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: a good thing or a bad thing, Like I want 504 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: him more aggressive. I guess like it's too much of this, 505 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: like standing trying to feed a d trying to feed 506 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Lebron and then try to attack, and then there's three 507 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: people in the pain. Right, It's a lot of that, 508 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like he'd be better off just being aggressive, 509 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: and I think that just take time. And again it's 510 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: it's a process of a result thing. And I saw 511 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: some good process tonight, and look, there's bad shots and 512 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: you have to kind of get used to that. I 513 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: guess like the shot selection with Russ is what it is. 514 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: He's been in the league, however long he's been in 515 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: over a decade in the league, Like the shot selection 516 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: isn't changing by that much. He's still gonna come down 517 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: take a contest in mid range to try to bank 518 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: it off the glass, right, And I'd love to see 519 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: the numbers on what he is when he tries to 520 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: bank it off the glass. I think he's actually better 521 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: when he tries to do that, but you know the 522 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: hold it wait for the defender to come up to 523 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of back up a little bit and then take 524 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: that contested three. Like those are shots they're gonna see. 525 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: But I thought I saw a few good things, like 526 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: he is pushing the pace like he was one of 527 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: the reasons and his boss score. Tonight he was a 528 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: minus twenty three and you'll see that number all the 529 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: way until Friday, I feel like when they play their 530 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: next game against against Phoenix. But there were a few 531 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: good things I saw, like where you would give a 532 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: post entry to Lebron and then they would they would 533 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: double one pass away, which you're really not supposed to do, 534 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: but since his rust, they do. And he did a 535 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: hard cut cut to the lane and found Baysmore in 536 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: the corner. Like I saw some of that. I saw 537 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: him get a little bit more comfortable. He missed a 538 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: dunk like a layup dunk tonight. He missed a lot 539 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: at the rim where he thought he got fouled. But 540 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be an adjustment. Like again, I'm shocked. 541 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Jason, but I'm shocked at 542 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: how much he's I guess trying to like not step 543 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: on Lebron and eighties toes, you know, or even like 544 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: playing like when Rondo and him share the floor, it's 545 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: almost like Rondo's the de facto point guard instead of 546 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: like Rusp being the on guard on ball guard and 547 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: trying to have Rondo is actually the better spacing three 548 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: point shooter play off the ball, like because a lot 549 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: of playing through Rondo, a lot of playing through a 550 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: lot of passiveness that I just didn't expect that ask, 551 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: which again I'm not sure that's a good thing. He's 552 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: trying to adjust or but to me, I think he 553 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: should be himself, Like what do you think about that? 554 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: Because I'm shocked at how much he's trying to adjust 555 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: the team rather than damn trying to him be himself 556 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: and play his game. You brought up so much interesting 557 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff right there. I'm gonna try and try to hit 558 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: it all you. The Rondo stuff was was so incredibly 559 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: confusing to me putting him on the ball um not 560 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: not only because it moved both Russ and Malik Monk, 561 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: who in the preseason showed a lot as a ball 562 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: handler in pick and roll um and as somebody who 563 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: was quite frankly dangerous in taking role, especially with Anthony 564 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: Davis on the floor, because when you when you pair 565 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis as a screener with a shooter who can 566 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: with a ball handler who can shoot off the dribble effectively, 567 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: it's a deadly combo because it forces the guy to 568 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: chase over the top, which basically gives you automatic dribble 569 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: separation as a ball handler or is going to bring 570 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: the big over, which is going to allow a d 571 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: to get open in the pocket past. So like that 572 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: should work. And Molik Monk was relegated to way corner 573 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: shooter because of Rondo. I was so genuinely confused by that. 574 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: I thought that was the point of bringing in the 575 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: leak Bunk, like you brought in Malik Monk. You didn't 576 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: bring in the leak Monk to be Ben mcilmore. You 577 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: brought it. You brought in Milik Monk to be a 578 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: lottery pick, a guy who can make things happen off 579 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: the dribble. I was so confused by that. Um. But 580 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: moving back to the to the Westbrook element of it, 581 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: you talked about how you want him to be aggressive, 582 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: and I agree. I think, like just in general with 583 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: Russ indecisiveness is going to be a problem. But that 584 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: was what was so strange about the rust effect, Like 585 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: you have to think when you're when you're one of 586 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: these stars that has the ability to get by somebody 587 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: off the dribble, it's not about the ability to get 588 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: someone off to buy someone off the dribble. Lebron knows 589 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: he can beat his man all the time. Of course 590 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: he knows that, so does Anthony Davis. The trick is 591 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: reading what's happening behind your defender and and that to 592 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: me is just basic basketball, like you stuff with Russ 593 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: that he's been lacking throughout his career. This like I 594 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 1: know I can beat my man, but I have and 595 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: but like I kind of haven't touched the ball in 596 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: a little while, or I haven't taken a shot in 597 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: a little while. So I'm just gonna put my head 598 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: down and go. And he doesn't realize that because of 599 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: the circumstances happening around him in the five on five 600 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: basketball game, that the Warriors have the paint packed because 601 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: your guys aren't even down the floor yet, because you're 602 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: kind of pushing in transition, and the Warriors have done 603 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: a good job of getting back probably because they've been 604 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: coached up on it all week prepping for the fast 605 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: breaking Lakers. That's basic basketball IQ stuff that where he's 606 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: he's making it low percentage. It's aggression that has a 607 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: very small chance of succeeding because of the circumstances. What 608 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I would like to see is Russ being more aggressive 609 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: in the flow of the offense in the half court. 610 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Do get him in a situation where there isn't help 611 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: under the rim, because maybe he's without another center on 612 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: the floor and maybe Lebron On setting a ball screen 613 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: or Anthony Davis is setting a ball screen, and and 614 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: they're shooting surrounding him, and he's got space where he 615 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: can beat that man off the dribble and not have 616 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: to make decisions but rather just go all the way 617 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: up to the room and score. And that that to me, 618 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: it would be the version of this that could work. 619 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: I thought he was indecisive tonight, and when he was 620 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: in the flow of the offense and you're right force 621 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: feeding a d constantly making post entry passes and then 622 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: cutting through to the other side, that's what he was 623 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: doing when things were in the half court. But then 624 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: what he would do is just randomly break off script 625 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: and make a really low aggress a low chance of success. Uh, 626 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, random burst of aggression that didn't make sense 627 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: with what they were doing. Or to your point, I'd 628 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: like to see him be aggressive in the flow of 629 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: the offense. I think he'll get better looks that way. 630 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Does any of what I just said make Yeah, for sure? 631 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean and again, like you see, the timing is 632 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: off as well as well, right, So a lot of 633 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: times again this is tough to kind of judge with 634 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the spacing, I guess with DJ's in the dunker spot, 635 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of times when Russ is off the ball, 636 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: he'll move to the dunker spot. So like when Lebron 637 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: and a D or run a screen and roll, he'll 638 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: move there. But when he's on the ball, they'll set 639 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: they said a lot of like step up screens, will 640 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: do a little bit of action and then he'll catch 641 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: it and he won't have his dribble yet, DJ or 642 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: a D will come up and said the screen and 643 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: a D will like roll into his driving space. Do 644 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: you see that as well? A lot like I see 645 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: like a D rolling and they'll like running he run 646 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: into each other. I think a D drew a foul 647 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: on that, and again, these are just timing stuff. Again, 648 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: when you listen to people who watched us a bunch 649 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: of times throughout his career, they say that he does 650 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: start slow. But I guess again, I didn't expect this 651 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: type of lack of aggression. Now I'm not just talking 652 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: about shots taking shots as well. I just mean like 653 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: when he's coming up, it's just like it's very passive. 654 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: It's not with the mindset to get to the basket 655 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: or to score like he can and he can't blow 656 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: by guys, and he is trying to find but it's 657 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: like over he's like making the decision of what he 658 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: wants to do before he does it. I guess if 659 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: that makes sense, Like he's driving, he's driving two pass right, 660 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: and then the Warriors are kind of playing for that, 661 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: and then he'll try to shoot at the annual miss 662 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: a layup or something like that, and I feel like 663 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: the rest got in his head as well tonight. I 664 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: think he got a tech and he thought he was 665 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: getting fouled the rim and those of stuff that happens. 666 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: And again, I think he'll get used to it. This 667 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: is day one, but that's my overall I guess Russ takes. 668 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to do these overall over arching kind 669 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: of takes early. Everyone's saying, like trade Russ, I mean, 670 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: we got slow down. It's it's it's it's day one. 671 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna take time. And I think Vogel, 672 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm just reading the quotes. He said that Russ has 673 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: the biggest adjustment to make, which makes sense. Right, you 674 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of the Lebron and eighties, the core 675 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: and rust are trying to fit around that. But I 676 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: still I still like him to be more himself and 677 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: I think he can. Yeah. So I just in general 678 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: with Russ, I do want to be preach patients to 679 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: some extent because he's here for better or worse. If 680 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: he if he absolutely bombs out like it looks absolutely 681 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: horrible for twenty games, he becomes effectively untradeable. So from 682 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: that stand because of his contracts side, So from that standpoint, 683 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: like he's with the Lakers for better or worse, they 684 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: have to find a way to make this work. And 685 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm with you about avoiding the grand scheme type of 686 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: of overarching analysis with the Lakers. However, the one thing 687 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: I'll say is it is hard to lose a basketball 688 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: game when Lebron and a D played this well on 689 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor. You and I preached extensively 690 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: in previous seasons. When Lebron and a D are playing 691 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: on the on the floor together and look like themselves 692 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: and are healthy, if your role players play great, you 693 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: beat the hell out of the other team. If your 694 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: role players play okay, you win by fifteen and if 695 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: your role players suck, you still win by two or 696 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: three points. That's that was our joke that we had 697 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. And the reality is 698 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: is tonight they lost by double digits with Lebron and 699 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: a D playing great, and so that has to be 700 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: at least a little bit concerned. Now, I don't see 701 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: the point in getting overly wrapped up in it, because 702 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: they do have reinforced it's coming that are much better 703 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: defensive players. Kendrick Thht and Trevor Resa are all massive 704 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: defensive upgrades over some of the guys they've had to 705 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: play tonight, So there obviously are greener pastors on the 706 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: other side. Like I said, however, I I can't remember 707 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: a time watching Lebron and maybe he played this wall 708 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: on both ends and loose that in the last two years. 709 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: So that has to at least that has to at 710 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: least make you scratch your head a little bit, you 711 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. And on your 712 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: point about role players, like they didn't bring in Russell 713 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Westbrook to be a role player, I guess you know 714 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like looking at looking at it from 715 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: that point of view, like I saw a lot of 716 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: people saying, like I wish we had you know, KCP 717 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: or something like tep back, But this is just totally different. 718 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Like we talked about when we talked about the preseason, 719 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: when you asked add Russ to a team, it's almost 720 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: like adding two to three players, right, just in terms 721 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: of like what he does and his you shage and 722 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: all that stuff. When you add that to it, it's 723 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: cann't take time. And I know, like it's tough to 724 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: preach patients, Like if the Lakers are like I know, 725 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: you predicted them to in a lot of games and 726 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: so we so did I. But if they're like five 727 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: and ten or something, that the world's gonna crash or 728 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: all that stuff is gonna come out. But you know, 729 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: they have an easy schedule to start. They play Phoenix next, 730 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: and look, they could lose the Phoenix as well. Phoenix 731 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: has kicked our butt for the last four or five times. 732 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: I think even if you good preseason and the last 733 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: few playoff games without a D, they're confident. They're a 734 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: good team. I'm not sure if Devin Book is playing 735 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: or not, but that we can lose them and then 736 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: we have some easy games after that and Russ will 737 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: get comfortable. And but again, like I think looking at 738 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: it from like comparing him to like guys like a 739 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: three and D player, it's just not what he's brought 740 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: in the year too. He's brought in to be like 741 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: a usage player, like the whole point. And again, losing 742 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: these non Lebron minutes are are really tough because the 743 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: whole point of bringing Russ in what's so that you 744 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: can have Russ a D man these you know, non 745 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: Lebron minutes. And we just got cooked defensively tonight. And 746 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors are a tough team. The Guarden anyway, Jordan 747 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: Pool abstolutely cooked. I thought it was unfair to throw 748 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: Malik Monk onto Jordan Pool and just try to tell 749 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: him to stop from Jordan Pool got cooking. But but 750 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: that's when we lost the game, in my opinion, was 751 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: those second units when Lebron went off the floor. So yeah, 752 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: it's gonna take time with time with Russ and we'll 753 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: see on Friday. But it wasn't a great start. And 754 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: like I guess my silver lining, this is probably like 755 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: what the worst game of US would look like. And 756 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it will be the last game, but 757 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: I think this is kind of what you'll see. This 758 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: is the floor. I guess would you agree with that 759 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: this would kind of be the floor? I mean, he finished, 760 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, this is this is It's hard 761 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: to be worse than he was tonight on both ends 762 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: of the floor. It's hard to be worse than right. 763 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: And I don't really like the box score plus minus that, 764 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, but minus twenty three kind of fits, you know, 765 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: even if you just look at it from the eye 766 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: test and the film, it does kind of fit. It 767 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: felt like it was ugly and you could see him 768 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: trying to not step on toes and I would kind 769 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: of like him to just be kind of aggressive. I 770 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: think the style of play fits him, this transition, fast 771 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: paced play, and he's just trying to figure out what 772 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: his teammates, but I just like him to be a 773 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive than them, and I think he will. Yeah, 774 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: And and you know, you can actually go ahead and 775 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: start everybody. If you have anything you want to say, 776 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: or if you have any thing you want to vent about, 777 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: or if you have any questions, get your request in now. 778 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: Roger's gonna get first guest up there. Um Uh, what 779 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is that, you know, I always 780 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: want to be careful with my analysis immediately after a game, 781 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: obviously because there's some emotion and obviously I've been obviously 782 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: I've been deeply annoyed tonight. We will have uh something 783 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: come out in the next couple of days that is 784 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: more measured in responding to the tape, because you and 785 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: I are both going to rewatch the game in its 786 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: entirety and try to get more to the bottom of 787 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: of what actually happened. Um. The last little random shout 788 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: out I wanted to put in there was Avery Bradley. Um. 789 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of the signing for a 790 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: bunch of reasons. He was great with the Lakers. I 791 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: think Laker fan base can be pretty ravenous, and when 792 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: he decided not to go to the bubble, most of 793 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: the fans turned on him, which I think is pretty 794 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: messed up just because of the totality of the pandemic 795 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: and all the crap that was going on there. I mean, 796 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: even Trevor Reza decided not to go with the Blazers, 797 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Like it just was a complicated decision for a lot 798 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: of these guys to leave their families for as long 799 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: as they had to. Um that said, I thought he 800 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: was really good with the Lakers in a lot of 801 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: different ways, and I and I really liked the signing, 802 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: and it just just to toss him a compliment here. 803 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: What a professional to basically have no practice time or 804 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: game reps with the team and to step in in 805 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: what amounted to a pretty intense game for a regular 806 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,959 Speaker 1: season game, and to do your job and to be 807 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: a net positive in my opinion in terms of his 808 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: individual impact in those minutes and knock down some big shots, 809 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: chase guys over screens, and make some plays like you said, 810 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: get back to running an action that he used to 811 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: run like over a year ago. I just thought it 812 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: was really impressive of him, and I wanted to give 813 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: him a shout out. Ye and we have an Eric 814 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: up here, and I'll just a little shout out to Basemore. 815 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: We'll get into him a little bit deeper later, I'm sure. 816 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: But I thought he played really well tonight. His point 817 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: of attack, defense is great. He hit his threes, I belie. 818 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what he shot, but it seemed like 819 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: he had timely three. So what I thought he a 820 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: good game. But Eric, can you hear us? Yep, I 821 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: can hear. You can hear me? What's going on? Guys? 822 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: Um uh? Okay? So there's a lot of positives, right, 823 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: um Bran and a D looked amazing, right, and that's 824 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: always positive. The problem, and I'm praying this isn't a 825 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: season long thing, is you know, Vogel has this thing 826 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: where he's very stubborn with his lineups, and it drives 827 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: me through the roof. Right, Russ was terrible, let's be clear. 828 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: But we've got ten years of film on Russ, so 829 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: you know who Russ is and you know what lineups 830 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: will work with him. Why you're starting DeAndre Jordan with him? 831 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea because now, all right, he's already 832 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 1: trying to fit in, and then when he does drive, 833 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: he's driving into a clock team. Well, that's not gonna work, right, 834 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: So now he's settling for jumpers that he can't hit. Well, 835 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work either. And then Jordan's comes out 836 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: and you pair him with Rondo. So I'm like, you know, 837 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: if Rust had to feel like he was in heaven, right, 838 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: So yes, we're gonna pile on Rust. But I actually 839 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: felt horrible for him because Vogel did him absolutely zero 840 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: favors tonight, none, Like those lineups were the worst lineups 841 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: you could possibly imagine. For rest of Westbrooks. He works 842 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: and then uh, finally he got two minutes of a 843 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: d Right, he makes two layups, so I'm like, okay, good. 844 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: Then Dwight comes in. I was like, yeah, like why 845 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: are you doing this to this man? Like where are you? Like? 846 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Then he had to feel 847 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: like he was in hell and he's gonna get slammed, 848 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: and he said he wasn't good. But Vogel has to 849 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: do a better job of of of maximizing the lineups. 850 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: You can't have Rest with Cloude paints for for his 851 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: whole thirty five minutes. Then that's what us, Right, he 852 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: can't shoot. We know this, but there are things that 853 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: Russ can do. He should have been able to take 854 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: more pressure off of Brian a D with you know, 855 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: his assaults on the rim, if the rim was open 856 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: for him to do so. I watched there was three 857 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: times and I said it on Twitter where he drove 858 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: down the lane and DeAndre just stood there. Hey man, 859 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: if you see him driving, move but don't just stand 860 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: like stuff like that was driving me nuts. His little things. 861 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: But that's if Russ gets it going, if he makes 862 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: a few of those laps. Now, Russ is unguardable, right, 863 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: and he's playing with confidence and he's doing Russ stuff. 864 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: But when he's missing layups and missing jumpers and he's unsure, 865 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: that translates to his energy on the defensive end, and 866 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: it was it was just bad. So I Vogel. Vogal 867 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: frustrated me with the Rondo Westbrook lineups. He frustrated me 868 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: with the the Westbrook Jordans lineups, the Westbrook White lineups. 869 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think he got a lot of Westbrook 870 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: A D lines, like maybe at the tail end of 871 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: the game, but I think that's the lineup that you like. 872 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: Put him at the five, Let let him do more 873 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: of that. That's my opinion. I don't know what you 874 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: guys think, but that was my opinion. So I think 875 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: you hit on something super interesting having to do with 876 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: like the totality of the picture of the game, because 877 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: in my opinion, even if you win the DeAndre Jordan's minutes, 878 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: which they did, they were plus two, um, you have 879 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: to look at the totality of the impact of the 880 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: players on the floor and their rhythm. So, for instance, 881 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: let's say that instead of starting DeAndre Jordan's, you start 882 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: any other guard and you slide Lebron in a D 883 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: to the four and five. Maybe Russ gets one or 884 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: two easy layups in his first shift as opposed to 885 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: not having those opportunities at the rim, and maybe that 886 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: changes the complexion of the game for him in terms 887 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: of his confidence in the in his rhythm. Those are 888 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: the kinds of things that I look at. You know, 889 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: Lebron and a D are so good. We are kind of, 890 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, spoiled into thinking that these players can you know, 891 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: just organically find a way to impact the game even 892 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: if they are forced to play in crowded space. But 893 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: Russ isn't at that level. Russ is going to be 894 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: a player that is going to be more inconsistent, which 895 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: means he's going to lean more on his confidence in 896 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: his rhythm. And so those are the things that I 897 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: look at. Would I I would rather lose the starters 898 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: minutes by two points, trade four points on the scoreboard 899 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: for Russ's rhythm, for Russ's comfort and confidence. And so 900 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you in that regard. As far as 901 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: the Anthony Davis part, same thing. I I would rather 902 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: give Lebron the challenge, make Lebron play with Dwight, make 903 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: Lebron play with the other role players, let Russ in 904 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: a d get all the non Lebron names together. Not 905 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: not only does that give you your best opportunity to 906 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: win the non Lebron minutes, but it gives Russ his 907 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: best opportunity to try to find a rhythm. Now I 908 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: need to dig more into the film to see exactly 909 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: how he split the rotation. So I don't want to 910 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: offer too much criticism until I had a little bit more, 911 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, education on it. That said, I agree with 912 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: you in principle, like you have to find a way 913 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: to set us up to succeed in the way you 914 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: do that is the same way Darryl More he did 915 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: it by giving him space, and you happen to have 916 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: the world's biggest cheat code and Andy Davis that can 917 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: offer that can offer space while simultaneously giving you the 918 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: physical impact of the bigger One last thing I thought, 919 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: uh Ros was starting to touch on it. I thought 920 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: Bayes was incredible. Honestly, Um, it's funny because a lot 921 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: of you know, the the announcers we're talking about, you know, 922 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: all stuffs just off. No, he wasn't just off. Bays 923 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: was in his shorts like he played him about as 924 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: well as you're going to play Steph Curry. He was physical, 925 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: he was on now obviously practical together four years, so 926 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, shouldn't help. But nonetheless, he played stuff as 927 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: well as one person is going to play him. I mean, yes, 928 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: they trapped a little bit, but sakers didn't trap as 929 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: much as I thought they were going to because he 930 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: fought through a lot of those screens. He played step 931 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: really well, like if Steph hits those shots, you just 932 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: gotta talk. Okay, he's deaf, but those were hard shots 933 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: he was taking. He had a couple open ones, but 934 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: he was so out of rhythm because most of the 935 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: shots were tough that you know, it's almost like, all right, 936 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Steph is human. He's gonna miss some shots, 937 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: and so kudos the stuff for doing a bunch of 938 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: other things and making a lot of other winning plays. 939 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 1: But I think Baysmore had a lot to do with 940 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,959 Speaker 1: you know, with his his struggles tonight right, the length, 941 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: the strength, the foot movement, and and Bayes did hit 942 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: some some timely shots, So I was encouraged by what 943 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: I saw with him. Um, I'm not as critical of 944 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: the mellow minutes as maybe some other I did agree 945 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: with Rise did. He probably played maybe six to seven 946 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: minutes too many. But I liked the fact that he 947 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: was a bucket when he got on the court and 948 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: he was a threat, and that kind of opened opened 949 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And if he didn't play 950 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: so many minutes with Dwight, I think I would have 951 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: been better. I think if he'd have played more minutes 952 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: with you know, I don't know, I'm not gonna say 953 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: with a d but I think if he'd played more 954 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: in in scoring minutes, I think he would have it 955 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't have looked so bad. But the fact was, you know, 956 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: he's trying to post up Dwights right there, so it 957 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 1: looks it all looks clutter. I think Vocal just has 958 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: to find a better balance with these big a d 959 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: at the five minutes. He's got to figure that out 960 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: because this team is not a phenomenal three point shooting team, 961 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: so clogging the paint just doesn't help. Brown was phenomenal tonight. 962 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna shoot from three for 963 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: the season, Like that's unrealistic, right, So I think I 964 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: think he's got to do a better job of managing 965 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: these lineups because, to Jason's point, you can't have Brian 966 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: and a D playing this well and lose. But I 967 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: think he did everyone. And I know there's some injuries 968 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: and and you know, when the lineup is healthy, and 969 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: I'll be better on know that. You know, none will 970 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: make a big difference because that will cut it into 971 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: some of those Rhondo manants and you know, all that 972 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: good stuff. But I think Vocal could have done literally 973 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: to three lineup tweaks to change this result tonight. Um, 974 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: he watched Monk get cooked for a whole third quarter. 975 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: All right, listen, man, I only need to see two 976 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: three minutes of that to say, all right, you gotta 977 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: get out go just go guardend. We'll figure out your office, 978 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: but just go guardend. Like I don't need to watch 979 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: eight minutes of Pool cooking him to realize again gardens. 980 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: But it was a little stuff like that, and I 981 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: was just like, just pull the trigger, quicker, Eric, that 982 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: was a textbook event session. I was so het a 983 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. You had a lot of stuff. But 984 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: I'll just speak on your base mark point and you're 985 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: totally right. Basemar was awesome, like STEP's gonna hit those 986 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: shots sometimes, like he missed a few that he would 987 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: usually hit, but that's how base Board did as well 988 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: as he could. He was physical with him. Um. I 989 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: didn't like that Vogo pulled him out after those two 990 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: quick ones. I would like him to stay on him. 991 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: I think that next possession stuff got fouled by Carmelo, 992 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: I believe on the three right after, right after Basemark 993 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: came out. But he was right with him. He was 994 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: going around him on screen. I've said before, he's our 995 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: best point of attack defender right now. Maybe Avery badly 996 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: kind of takes that, takes that uh from him, but 997 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: for right now, Basement is our best and he had 998 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: his corner threes. He was good he fits our like 999 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: transition game that we want to play. He makes some 1000 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: questionable decisions sometimes, but like he's fast, he runs the floor, 1001 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: he runs, he fills the wing, and he knows how 1002 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: to rotate to the corners like he's a he's a 1003 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: nice two guard to start for right now. So I 1004 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: think he was great and we'll we'll see, we'll see. Uh, 1005 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: we'll see next game. But I thought he was good 1006 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: on staff. I agree with you. Yeah, thanks guys, I 1007 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: appreciate it, thanks, Harry. All right, I think we have 1008 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: Nick coming up, Nix. I think space has gone better 1009 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: with connecting, at least from what I see or maybe not. 1010 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: There you go, Nick, what's going on? Man? What's up? Nick? 1011 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: And he went back down, so maybe it wasn't ready. 1012 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: Let's see so chosen one. Yeah, can you hear us? Okay, 1013 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: maybe not, I see him up here, but let's get 1014 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: someone else. Yeah, can you hear us? Let live in 1015 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: live in? Oh yeah, I can hear you all my bad, 1016 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know you did. What's going on? Manh yeahs 1017 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: oh man? Uh? Yeah? So so to me, like starting 1018 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's like I get it, Okay, I don't get it, 1019 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: but I'll say this, like, to be honest, it really 1020 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: messes up the rhythm I think offensively for the Lakers. 1021 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: So I really don't like DeAndre Jordan started because it 1022 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: really drives me crazy because I don't know, you don't 1023 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: bring nothing productive to the table. So I'm like, why 1024 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: is like why is DJ especially a team like the 1025 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: Warriors where Kavan Looney starting like like like I'm not, 1026 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm not. I was wondering like this prank bogle thing 1027 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: Cavan Loony is gonna have some I don't know, some 1028 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: huge impact to the point where like we're gonna need 1029 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: a big and like, to me honestly, like I know 1030 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: this has been talked about so long or summer, but 1031 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: I feel like a D should a really should be 1032 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: starting at the five because I don't see any like 1033 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: there's no bruisers in the NBA that at the five 1034 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: that are gonna make me go, oh my god. Um 1035 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: if a D starts at the five, like he's gonna 1036 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: get hurt and stuff, I don't. I don't understand that. 1037 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: But I say, we are missing a lot of rotation 1038 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: guys today, so I really won't I'm not gonna overreact. 1039 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean when we get you know, th ht um 1040 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: a reason none. When we get those guys in the mix, 1041 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: I feel like it'll look a lot better than I 1042 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 1: did tonight. Um, but I feel like the only way 1043 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: for like, for Russ to be successful on the Lakers, 1044 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: as if if is oh my god, is is f eight. 1045 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: He plays the five more in my opinion, And I 1046 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: feel like, when you know, when those guys get back 1047 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: like a reason and stuff, I feel like, um Mella 1048 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: won't have to play as much minutes and I don't. 1049 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: And also like playing Rondo Rondo bringing up the ball 1050 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: with Russa on the wing, like Russ is some remarkable 1051 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: three point shooter. I don't know those those line ups 1052 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: don't make sense to me either. But you know, it's 1053 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: game one, it's game money. You're gonna be patient. We'll 1054 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: see what goes on for the rest of the year. 1055 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: So really quickly on the Kimon Looney thing, like that's 1056 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: the type of big Yanni Jordan can start against, right, 1057 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: Like you don't want him starting against these like spaking 1058 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: out fives, like when you have these traditional fives, like 1059 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: he can kind of start with them. And again, like 1060 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: it's crazy to me, we kind of focus on this 1061 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: he played twelve minutes like he played six minutes eats 1062 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: half and I see all this rust like can't be 1063 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: successful unless he's next to eight at the five, and 1064 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's not conductive to him, Like it doesn't 1065 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: help him that the spacing isn't great, it's not exactly 1066 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 1: fit his game. But I think that lets Russ off 1067 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: too easy, Like it doesn't give enough credit to where 1068 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: Russ can still be. Like even if even if the 1069 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: spacing isn't great, like it's not going to be Like 1070 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 1: if Lebron and Russ are sharing the floor, they're gonna 1071 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: live with Lebron and Russ kind of shooting jumpers. And 1072 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: even though Lebron is going tonight, that's kind of a 1073 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 1: win for the defense of Lebron is taking jumpers if 1074 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: a D is taking jumpers, right, So even if a 1075 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: D is out the five, you're still going to have 1076 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: a packed paint a lot of the time, unless you 1077 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: have like Wayne Ellerton or something out there. But like, 1078 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: still pain's gonna be packed. Doesn't mean Russ can't play 1079 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: his game at all, Like he can. He still has 1080 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: to be able to attack in some way forms be 1081 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: a threat. And I feel like he just hasn't been 1082 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: a threat as much as he can be from last 1083 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: year and again maybe it's just him starting slow, but 1084 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: there's like this line between what he is right now, 1085 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: which is just like we can we can preach paisans, 1086 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: I'll preach patients, I'll say process of a results, but 1087 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: we can be honest as well. He hasn't been great, 1088 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 1: and that's true, like we can tell the truth. He 1089 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: hasn't been great, But there's this line between what he 1090 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: was and what he is right now that's not just 1091 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: answered by putting a D as the five, you know 1092 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. And even though we're getting eighty at 1093 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: the five and some points here, like if they can't 1094 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: defend at a baseline level to where Vogel sees they can, 1095 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get much a D at the five 1096 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: minutes either, right If we have all these guards that 1097 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: are getting killed, Monk couldn't stay on any screens with 1098 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: with with Jordan Pool, Roger Rondo dying on screens. Westbrook 1099 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: isn't that type of defender where he chases guys off, 1100 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: chases around screens, you know what I mean. He's a 1101 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: guy that likes to crash offensive board, which is great, 1102 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: But what happens when you die on the screen and 1103 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: try to box that, Like those are all kind of 1104 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,439 Speaker 1: things that happen. And if a d is the only 1105 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: guy down, they're getting rebounds, Like that's something that Vogel 1106 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: will look at as well. But I just feel like this, 1107 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: like answer to Russ is eighty at the five is 1108 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: is too simple fied to me, Like it doesn't give 1109 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: Russ less Russ off too easy, Like he's better than 1110 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: this and he can be better and maybe the spacing 1111 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: isn't conductive to it, but it doesn't mean he has 1112 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: to be disineffective. That makes sense, Jason, does that make sense? 1113 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: So it makes sense. I just I just disagree with respectfully, 1114 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: like the the the So when when you watch prime 1115 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, Like I was joking on the pot the 1116 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: other day about watching the two thousand fourteen Western Conference finals, 1117 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: he was so he was such a nuclear athlete that 1118 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of jarring to watch in 1119 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: retrospect looking back now because of just how incredible he 1120 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: is even in tight space, even next to Kendrick Perkins 1121 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: and Sergebaka at beating guys off the dribble and floating 1122 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: by shot blockers to finish. The truth of the matter 1123 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: is that at this phase of his career, you know, 1124 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: he's kind of like he's more of that you know, 1125 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: third fourth fifth tier type of star and third fourth 1126 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: fifth tier type of athletes. So the truth is is, like, 1127 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: the reason why you need to give him the space 1128 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: is because he's a non shooting dribble drive guard who 1129 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: isn't a you know, earth shattering superstar. So from that standpoint, 1130 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: if you allow teams to pack the paint on him, 1131 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: it immediately makes him more limited. It's it's really that 1132 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: simple to me. So you know, there's a reason why 1133 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he exploded playing with the Houston 1134 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: Rockets after they traded Clint Capella. It's because, all of 1135 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, he didn't have to navigate a packed paint. 1136 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: It was all I gotta do is beat my man 1137 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: off the dribble with which at this phase in his career, 1138 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: because of his strength and size, and because he still 1139 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 1: is an above average athlete, he is capable of beating 1140 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: that point of attack defender. But it's that it's the 1141 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: next layer of the defense at this phase in his 1142 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: career that he's going to struggle with. And so I 1143 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: don't think it's coincidence that he had some success in 1144 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: Washington when they were able to, you know, play with 1145 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: guys like Burton's and get a little bit more pick 1146 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: and pop where he was able to have a little 1147 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: bit more space to operat around the rim. But at 1148 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, with this group of guys, 1149 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: because of what because like you always talk about this rodge, 1150 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: the difference between a shooter and a guy that like 1151 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 1: the defense, that can make shots, but that the defense 1152 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 1: doesn't really guard. And and that's where it gets difficult 1153 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: because Anthony Davis, for all of his strengths, he's not 1154 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: a guy that teams are going to be blitzing off 1155 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: the three point line. I could you could even really 1156 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: say the same thing about Lebron to be honest, Like, 1157 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: there were several possessions today, There are several possessions today 1158 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: where Lebron's defender was heavily sagging into the paint to 1159 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: help off on guys. Honestly, I thought there was an 1160 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: opportunity where Anthony Davis needed to be a little bit 1161 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: quicker to pass out. The point is is that with 1162 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: that group, when you've got Lebron and Lady on the floor, 1163 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: guys who can make shots but that aren't really having 1164 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: guys glued to them. And then you add in the 1165 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 1: the DeAndre Jordan element of his man sitting basically directly 1166 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: under the basket. That just makes it so that Russ 1167 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: now has to navigate a thicket of bodies that he's 1168 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: just not capable of navigating at this point in his career. 1169 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: And so I do I do think that specifically for him, 1170 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: it is a factor um that remains to be seen 1171 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: if over the course of the season, if he proves 1172 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: me wrong that with lineups that have some non shooting 1173 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: that he's able to eventually figure it out. But I 1174 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: tend to think that when he looks his best this year, 1175 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: it will be in lineups where he doesn't have to 1176 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: deal with the big park under the room right waiting 1177 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, I agree with you on that. I 1178 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: just think like he shouldn't look I guess this that 1179 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: not having that, Like, obviously I think he'll look great 1180 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 1: with with a D at the five, and obviously Adi 1181 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: looks best when he's at the five as well, Right, 1182 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: But when Ad plays the four, he can't just be 1183 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: this non effective player, Just like I think when Russ 1184 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: plays with these two big lineups, which I think we're 1185 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna see a lot in the regular season, it's pretty clear. 1186 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how much DeAndre is going to be 1187 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: in the rotation when we get healthy, but Dwight's going 1188 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: to be in the rotation. They like him. They're like, 1189 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna see that. He's gonna have to get used 1190 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: to it in some at some point. I do think 1191 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: there's ways he can get to it. I think there's 1192 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: ways that you can run actions to where he's he's 1193 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: getting he's getting downhill, you know what I mean. Like, 1194 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: I feel I saw a lot of that tonight as well. 1195 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: He missed a lot at the rim to which again 1196 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 1: like has nothing to do with it has something to 1197 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: do with the spacing, but some of the layups you 1198 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 1: missed our point blank as well. Just like I feel 1199 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: like he's hitting his head a lot with these games. 1200 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: But but you're right, it look best when it's to 1201 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: have the five. I just think that he has to 1202 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: spind a way to also be effective with these two 1203 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: big lines because I think we're gonna see it. I agree, Yeah, 1204 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that in terms of the 1205 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,919 Speaker 1: reason why I have a problem with DeAndre Jordan's starting, 1206 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: it's because, like I'll say, like even if Russ, like 1207 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: I know, he's not as athletic as he used to 1208 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: be back in the day, but even then, so like 1209 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: even if like a man commits to him and he's 1210 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: passing about to DeAndre Jordan's, they're just gonna file the 1211 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: shot out DeAndre Jordan. And you know how you know 1212 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: how likely it is for DeAndre two three throws. So 1213 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying like they don't make a 1214 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: lot of sense to me, But you know what, we'll 1215 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: see here, man, I love, I appreciate you hopping on 1216 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: and talking with this man. We'll see you next time. 1217 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna get onto a couple more colors and a 1218 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: d S read those two. I think he was like, 1219 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: what two for six tonight or something two for seven. 1220 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 1: The most bizarre thing with his shooting slump is because 1221 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: he just he just wasn't knocked down free through shooter 1222 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: in the past. That is what it is. He's got 1223 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: to work his way through that. And I would say 1224 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: him making some of these pull up jump shots is 1225 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: a good spot. Was going what's going on Jill, Hey, 1226 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: what's up, fellas? Um, just real quick, do you guys think, uh, 1227 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: Austin Austar Reads will be able to get into the 1228 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: Let's say, like, you know, when the game's gout a 1229 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: hand or whatever, and you know we've got these injuries, 1230 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: you guys think he will get a look in the game, 1231 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: or maybe they just don't think he's ready for this 1232 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: this type of action. Right now. I think he's absolutely ready. However, 1233 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll see him play. And the answer 1234 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: is really simple. With that specific concoction of egos in 1235 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: that locker room, playing Austin Reeves twenty minutes and leaving 1236 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: some of these other veteran players off the floor, I 1237 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: don't think would sit well, uh, in the totality of 1238 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: the locker room vibe. It really shouldn't work that way. 1239 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: It really shouldn't. But unfortunately that's just the reality of 1240 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: the way this business works. And if I'm frank, the 1241 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: way I'm looking at it is, I'm not gonna have 1242 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: to play some of these guys anyway in a couple 1243 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: of weeks when everyone gets healthy. So rather than playing 1244 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: Reeves now and getting a better outcome now and having 1245 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: potentially some negative impacts on the culture in the locker room, 1246 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: maybe you ride it out with the vets and then 1247 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: because you know, if Rondo's sitting for Kendrick Nunn, he's 1248 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: not going to argue because Kendrick Nunn is their mid 1249 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: level exception player. He's a He's a player that it 1250 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense to play over Rondo. But if you 1251 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: play Reeves over Rondo, maybe there's some chatter, you know 1252 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, And so I think that's the angle there. 1253 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: But I'm with you in the sense that I absolutely 1254 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: think Reeves could have helped tonight. He's gonna get his shot, Like, yeah, 1255 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna get his shot. Like it's funny. In 1256 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: the preseason, he was the first sub for most of 1257 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: the games. Austin Reason was the first guy subbed in. 1258 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna push back, like there's politics in every locker room, 1259 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: and obviously the guys who's play in the league a 1260 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: long time, we're going to get the shot. But I mean, 1261 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: we saw the kind of THHD take, you know, Wes 1262 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: Matthews Min's last year. I mean, Vogel, I think we'll 1263 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: play him eventually. He's gonna get a shot here, especially 1264 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: if the defense continues to look like this, And we've 1265 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: said before he looks ready and preseason is what it is, 1266 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: though we do have to see it in the regular games. 1267 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: But just from like a basketball que point and knowing 1268 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: where how to play next to superstars, he looks really 1269 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: ready for that. But we'll see. Uh. I think it's 1270 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna be be a while, especially if our guys start 1271 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: to get healthy as well. But he's gonna he's gonna 1272 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: get his shot to play. He looked good in the preseason, 1273 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: and I don't see a reason why Vogel at least 1274 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't try it. I mean, he went to Avery Bradley tonight, 1275 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: who was signed less than twenty four hours ago, and 1276 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: almost closed the game, And you could tell Vogel is 1277 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of search for these places where he can find defense, right, 1278 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: And I think if Austin Reeves shows he can get 1279 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: he'll play. Yeah, and and too. I I look specifically 1280 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: at Lebron and I saw where, you know, in the 1281 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: midst of that uh, that run that the Warriors made, 1282 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: I saw where he got a little bit frustrated, you know, 1283 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: whether it was with Russ or whoever. I saw that, 1284 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: So I know it's going to be a process for him, 1285 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: but I still trusting the guy. He looked out standing 1286 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 1: and uh man, I just think it's going to be 1287 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a process and to see how this team goes. But 1288 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: just looking forward to participating with you guys after each 1289 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Lakers game. Man, appreciate y'all, We appreciate. We'll see you 1290 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: hopefully on Friday, and absolutely, man, alright, we're gonna try 1291 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: to run through these ones a little quicker. Uh DCS, 1292 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: can you hear us? Okay, Yo, what up? What up? 1293 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? Okay, thanks for having me on 1294 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the show, guys, But quickly want to talk about Lebron's 1295 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: jump shot tonight, guys, and his shot selection overall, like 1296 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: with guests with DeAndre and Dwight, even though they only 1297 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,919 Speaker 1: both played thirteen minutes each, so maybe our spacing wasn't 1298 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: really as bad as we're going on about. But what 1299 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: do you guys think about Lebron's jumper overall and shot 1300 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: selection tonight? Looks like he's being more aggressive. But Russell Westbrook, 1301 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: I thought Lebron were fantastic. Obviously. I didn't have a 1302 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 1: problem with his shot selection at all. I thought most 1303 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: of his jump shots, especially from three kind of felt 1304 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: like the right read out of pick and roll or 1305 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: out of a catching shoot situation with a defender closing out. 1306 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a guy who was settling because 1307 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: he didn't feel like driving to the basket. It felt 1308 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: like solid shot selection. Just in general with Lebron, I 1309 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: think one of the things that people have underestimated with 1310 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: his extended prime here is, you know, they compare him 1311 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 1: to Johannese in a lot of ways as a guy 1312 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: who leaned heavily on his physical tools, and he certainly 1313 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: did early in his career, but for basically the last 1314 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: six or seven years, he's been a guy who's leaned 1315 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: heavily on his i Q and his passing ability and 1316 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: his ability to knock down the jump shot and his 1317 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: ability to scuare of the midrange, and those are things 1318 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: that we're always going to stay with him through this 1319 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: phase of his career. And I don't think it's a 1320 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: coincidence that even though he's about to turn thirty seven, 1321 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: which side point here, I love Lebron, big Lebron fan. 1322 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of driving me nuts how often the broadcast 1323 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: brings up it's his nineteenth season. It's like, we get 1324 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: it man, Okay, let's just watch the but but but 1325 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: the point, the point is is like I'm not surprised 1326 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: at all that he looks this good still, and the 1327 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: reason why, in my opinion, is his game was built 1328 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: to age well, and I absolutely think that you'll look 1329 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: more or less like this throughout the season. I think 1330 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: his jumper looked a little smoother too, like in the 1331 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: way he was shooting, and he was shooting it off 1332 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the dribble hand, like the guy was right in front 1333 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: of him, like it was. It seemed like a lot 1334 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: he had a lot more confident tonight. Normally you see 1335 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Lebrons have like a more feel of style game when 1336 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: it's like the first game of the season or he 1337 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: eases into things, but he seemed like he was on 1338 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: go mode. M hm. He's been shooting consistently pretty damn 1339 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: good since two thousand and seventeen, and this is definitely 1340 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: an extended trend. Yeah, in my opinion that you could 1341 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: tell he was feeling it tonight though, right with his jumper, 1342 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: he had that one in transition I think where like 1343 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: he did a running fade away jumper over he missed 1344 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: that one, but you could just tell he was feeling 1345 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: good with a jumper, and again that one was online too, 1346 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: that one happened, and again I thought his jumper kind 1347 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: of masked a lot of the ugly offense as well. 1348 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: He did take a couple of tough ones that went in. 1349 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: He had some fade away ones that were just beautiful 1350 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: to watch. I think it was I think another one 1351 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: over Wiggins as well that didn't barely touch the net. 1352 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, his jumper looked good man and Lebron looks good, 1353 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: and we talked about it all the time. That's him 1354 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: and a d looking like themselves is the most important thing. 1355 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: We can banter about Russ and Lake Monk and Roger 1356 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: and Rondo and Carmelo Anthony, but those two on the 1357 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: floor thirty eight minutes to night in the playoff series. 1358 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: I'll take it again. This is day one. But that's 1359 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: the most important thing. We got that ground floor level 1360 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: there right now. We can build on top of that. 1361 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: We can build on top of that. But if you 1362 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: don't have that, it doesn't matter what's on top of it. Right, 1363 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: If you don't have a ground floor, you don't have 1364 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 1: it out. So that's the main thing. And you're right, 1365 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Lebron looked Lebron looked incredible year ninety. Did you Jason, 1366 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: did you know it's year nineteen? I wasn't sure, you know. 1367 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: I kept I was watching the game and my wife 1368 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: and I just kept looking over. I'm like, do you know, 1369 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: could you could you tell me what it's getting out 1370 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: of control? Like if I can totally see how Lebron 1371 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: haters are like this this guy, what did you guys 1372 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: think about a d S shot selection tonight and how 1373 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: he was being used in the offense, how he was 1374 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:07,439 Speaker 1: getting his shots and so forth. I thought he was great. 1375 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean I so I actually Terry picked the clip 1376 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: um after the King's game where early in the game 1377 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: where he had I think it was Mohark was on 1378 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: him on the right block and the paint was pretty 1379 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: much clear. I think there was a guard waiting for 1380 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 1: him underneath the paint, but not somebody who would have 1381 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 1: deterred him from getting all the way to the rim, 1382 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: and he kind of took a crazy like fade away, 1383 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: looking like m J kind of curling into the lane 1384 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: and he bricked it and it was what started a 1385 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: five for nineteen night for him. And I was critical 1386 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 1: because it just looked like because mohark was was only 1387 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: six eight and relatively thin, it looked like an opportunity 1388 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 1: for a D to start the game off with a 1389 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: more physically aggressive move. You know, Anthony Davis all night tonight, 1390 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: even though he did take some tough jump shots mixed 1391 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: in there all night tonight, he had really good balance 1392 01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: between the tougher jump shots and the physical aggressive was 1393 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: into the lane, and he had several plays that were 1394 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: just like the Moharkless one where he had a smaller 1395 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: wing on him and instead of really crazy fading away, 1396 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: he created some contact, got closer to the rim, took 1397 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, something more like a straight up jump shot 1398 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: or a hook that is a significantly higher percentage shot, 1399 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and made it work. And then this is something Mr 1400 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Darius Oriana from like her film room is gonna preach 1401 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: about a lot, and he's right about it is you know, 1402 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: last season a D did not screen and dive to 1403 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 1: the rim at all, even just screen and pop. And 1404 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: there were several plays tonight where he took on the challenge, 1405 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the physical challenge of setting the screen and rolling into 1406 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the pain, understanding you're gonna be banging into bodies and 1407 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: understanding you're gonna have to regain your bearings after catching 1408 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: a tough pass and try to finish. But you did 1409 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: all of that tonight. I was absolutely blown away impressed 1410 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: by both a D and Lebron tonight. I thought they 1411 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 1: were both fantastic. Yeah, but I thought it's good process. Right. 1412 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: We talked about like we don't mind a jumpers, it 1413 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: just it should come through his aggression attacking the rim. 1414 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna trying to chart this as much as 1415 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: I can, but I believe like his first touch was 1416 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: like he went at he attacked the basket against Traymond Green. 1417 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: I think he got free throws and something like that, 1418 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's just that's the mindset he should have. And 1419 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: again the fade away jumpers will come from that. Right. 1420 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: He was kind of bullying on Connor Anderson and then 1421 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: he got another post up on him and hit this 1422 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: like fade away jumper on him. And again that's through 1423 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: him being aggressive attacking the rim. So I thought he 1424 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 1: was great. He looks he looks so much better than 1425 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: he did to start last season. If you go start, 1426 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: if you go watch those games, just it's just a 1427 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 1: huge difference from what he is now. And I think 1428 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: he was better on defense tonight than he was on offense, 1429 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: and he had a pretty good game on offense as 1430 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 1: well tonight. So I thought was himself like, he needs 1431 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: to be this, by the way for this team. So yeah, 1432 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 1: those those two guys were great. They were great. Thanks 1433 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: for happening on him, man, We appreciate you, and we'll 1434 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 1: be back Friday night if you want to come back 1435 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Convince again. Nice one, Thanks a lot, guys. Appreciated man, 1436 01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. M I think we have two more. We'll 1437 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:12,439 Speaker 1: close this out. Nick, Can you can hear us? Ere? Nick? Yeah? 1438 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Can you guys hear me? We can hear you? What's 1439 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: going on in Uh? Yeah, I was just I was 1440 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 1: watching Russ today and you know, I'm not going to 1441 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,480 Speaker 1: overreact to one game, but I was trying to contextualize 1442 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: it in the course of a full season and what 1443 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: you're gonna need from him, And I'm really it's really 1444 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 1: hard for me to understand what you're what you're going 1445 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: to use him for in the five minutes of winning time, Like, 1446 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: who is he when the game is tied a hundred 1447 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 1: a hundred five minutes left? Is he initiating the offense? 1448 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Is he standing in the corner. I mean, he's not 1449 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: really a defensive stopper and he's not really a three 1450 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 1: point threat. So what is he doing in those five 1451 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 1: minutes that really helps you win? I think this is 1452 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: a I think this is a great point, and I 1453 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: think this is the ninety However, games they have a 1454 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: D two game question, right is like this is what 1455 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: they need to figure out, Like what does he do? 1456 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 1: Because let's be honest, like Lebron can talk about, you know, 1457 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: giving up some ball handling responsibilities and all that, but 1458 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: those are in games that don't matter, right, Like in 1459 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 1: the last five minutes, last ten minutes of games, Lebron 1460 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: James is gonna have the basketball. A D is likely 1461 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,679 Speaker 1: the screener or he's gonna be involved in some way 1462 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: unless Lebron wants to attack the switch or whatever. But 1463 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: last five times, he's gonna have the ball. And I 1464 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: think there are some things you can do. And Jason 1465 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: can speak on this as well, but I think Russ 1466 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: has a screen or something. He's gonna have to get 1467 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 1: more used to. You see it a little bit, but 1468 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 1: you could also see him. It's just not something he 1469 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: does on a consistent basin. Right, He's not a guy 1470 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 1: who screens really hard and then rolls really hard, and 1471 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just comfortable doing that, and that's something 1472 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: that he's gonna have to for them to to kind 1473 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 1: of work together. Jason, what do you see from there, 1474 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: because I think this is a really great point. That's 1475 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: something they're gonna have to figure out for sure first starters. 1476 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, the first thing is the staggering. So I 1477 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting that Lebrawn typically is the 1478 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: first sud in in a Laker game, usually will come out, 1479 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, shortly after the first media time out, and 1480 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: last season they would let Shrewder and Anthony Davis run 1481 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: the end of the second quarter or end of the 1482 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: first quarter, excuse me, and then Lebron would come in 1483 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 1: with like one minute left in the first quarter and 1484 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: then he'd run the bench to start the second quarter. Well, 1485 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 1: tonight they took Russ out first, I think right around 1486 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 1: the seven minute mark. Out to watch the tape to 1487 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,919 Speaker 1: be sure. But the point is is that was clearly 1488 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 1: done in my opinion, to to help stagger Lebron and 1489 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: h and Russ. Because Lebron actually stayed in longer than 1490 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 1: usually think. He came out right around the four minute 1491 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 1: mark in the first quarter, and they ran uh and 1492 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: they brought Russ back at that point. So staggering is 1493 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the first way. But we always are going to come 1494 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,559 Speaker 1: back to the closing lineups, right, What are you gonna 1495 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: do when Russ is on the floor and Lebron is 1496 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: on the floor, but you're having Russ Lebron run the actions? 1497 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: And this is a legitimate question because you're gonna see 1498 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: it a lot. You throw a post throw to throw 1499 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 1: the ball to the post with Anthony Davis, and Russ's 1500 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,879 Speaker 1: man is is just when Russ cuts through. You'll literally 1501 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: see Russ's man stay on the strong side of the floor, 1502 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 1: Like Russ will cut through and he just will stop 1503 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: at the block and just stay, you know, literally, it's 1504 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: almost like a shift in baseball, just like all the 1505 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 1: way over to to to shut the play down, you 1506 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: have to find some way to counter that. And so 1507 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: the two big ones that I look at are are 1508 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,600 Speaker 1: one using him as a screener, basically turning him into Draymond. 1509 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,640 Speaker 1: Try to draw a trap and put Russ in a 1510 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 1: position where you can play four on three, uh, you know, 1511 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: off of a little looping pass or pocket pass, and 1512 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,719 Speaker 1: then two is just using his athleticism to wreck habit 1513 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: that can be either as a cutter or an offensive 1514 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 1: rebounder or one of the other big ones that I'd 1515 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to see some more experimentation with is have 1516 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Russ take on a traditional spot up position on the 1517 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 1: floor and preferably where he can actually get the ball. 1518 01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: So if you run him to the week side corner, 1519 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 1: it's just difficult get it to him there. But if 1520 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna be ignored, have him catch and just go Like, 1521 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: have him catch and just barrel into the lane. And 1522 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: just by the natural way that basketball works, I think 1523 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: it will collapse the defense in a lot of ways 1524 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 1: and and open up some things. But those are the 1525 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: things that, like, like Rod said, that's that that's the 1526 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 1: game question, that's the that's what they have to work 1527 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 1: out throughout this part of the season. Unfortunately, because how 1528 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: easy the schedule is, Like I think the Lakers will 1529 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: win the next eight games with how easy their schedule is. 1530 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 1: They they have an opportunity here to kind of work 1531 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 1: through some of this stuff. Yeah, I agree with that, 1532 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 1: and like they did some things where like that they 1533 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: when Russell's off the ball, like he said, like a 1534 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 1: pin screen for like since he since no one's guarding 1535 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: him as well, he screens for the guy who's trying 1536 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 1: to shoot in the corner, like did little things like that. 1537 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: But they have to figure it out because, let me 1538 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: tell you, like we talked about this over the summer, 1539 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the floor when it matters, Like 1540 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: there's none of this to Russ is gonna be on 1541 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: the bench or no, that's not happening. Russ is gonna 1542 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,600 Speaker 1: be on the floor when these games matter in the 1543 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: final five minutes, and they have to figure out how 1544 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: to do it. There's things to do. I think they 1545 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: can figure it out. Lebron Vogel, you know Rondo, all 1546 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 1: those brain trust I think you can figure out. But 1547 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: you talked about him as a screener, him attacking the 1548 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 1: offensive boards. I think you can kind of flip it 1549 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 1: where he's the center, right. I think Houston did this 1550 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot where they'd have p J. Tucker at the 1551 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: five and so then Russ would kind of be your 1552 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: center de facto center, where p J. Tucker's kind of 1553 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: spaceman and him and Harden can kind of run screen 1554 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 1: role actions. I see similar things in that where a 1555 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 1: D is p J. Tucker in this kind of scenario, 1556 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 1: And obviously they're not the same type of player, but 1557 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 1: just in terms of the spacing on the floor, those 1558 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: are the kind of things I would like to see. 1559 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 1: And I want to watch this game to kind of 1560 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,719 Speaker 1: rewatch this game to kind of see what he did. 1561 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,080 Speaker 1: It was kind of tough to watch it while watching 1562 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 1: live action also with all the emotion in the game. 1563 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a that's a great point, though. They 1564 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 1: have to figure it out. That's the a two game question, 1565 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 1: that's the chairmanship question because you're not you're not winning 1566 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 1: the title of those three. Don't figure out what Russ is? Uh? 1567 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:04,719 Speaker 1: In those last in one games matter? Diep I agree, Hey, Roger, 1568 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I think we got time. Yeah, let's do one more 1569 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: and then we'll call it tonight, I think. And if 1570 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: we missed anybody, guys, we will be doing these after 1571 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: every game of the regular season, So I promise we'll 1572 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 1: get to you eventually, all right, Sean, And Sean has 1573 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 1: been waiting a while, so like making the last one, Sean, 1574 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 1: can you hear us? Yeah you're there? Yeah, what's going 1575 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: on there? Man? I just wanted to talk about every 1576 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 1: every Bradly real quick, yeah, because it was crazy to me, 1577 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: like he I feel like he was the most effective 1578 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: overall guard on the floor tonight, and uh, I don't 1579 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: know if that was like something that's like carrying over 1580 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 1: from last year or whatever, but like to me, he 1581 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 1: looks super effective as far as like overall defense and 1582 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 1: offense goes and that kind of go ahead. So our 1583 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: guards really struggled tonight, So for sure, you know, it 1584 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: kind of reminds it kind of reminds me of Boston 1585 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,639 Speaker 1: Reeves in the preseason, like he was the best guard 1586 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: in the preseason, but that was a really low bar 1587 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 1: he was trying to hit with how bad everybody was. 1588 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of the way tonight was. Like Rondo 1589 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: was really really bad, Russell was really really bad. Like 1590 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Molik Monk had hit a couple of threes, but you know, 1591 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 1: struggled defensively. Actually, I think he might only have one 1592 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 1: three anyway. But Beigemore did good on on on on staff, 1593 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: like we disc gotted earlier. But part of it is 1594 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: is like it's you know, this is a frustrating part 1595 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: in all of this, Like if you really look at 1596 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: what Avery Bradley did when he came in the game, 1597 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,040 Speaker 1: he'd applied ball pressure on defense and chased guys off 1598 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 1: the three point line. He actually gave up some separation 1599 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,799 Speaker 1: quite a bit. He just gave up the right kind 1600 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: of separation. And this is the important kind of thing 1601 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 1: we're going to harp on a lot this year. It's 1602 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,759 Speaker 1: chasing guys off the three point so you can funnel 1603 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,600 Speaker 1: them into your health defense and then putting in the 1604 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 1: additional effort after the factor rotate out to the next shooter. 1605 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: That's all you're asking him to do defensively, and that's 1606 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,679 Speaker 1: what he did offensively. He I think made two out 1607 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: of three from three if I remember correctly, so obviously 1608 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna look good in that regard. And then they 1609 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 1: ran a really basic action when they used to run 1610 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 1: a lot when he was a Laker in his first distinct, 1611 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,600 Speaker 1: where you know, he kind of curled off that a 1612 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: d dribble handoff and just made a read either I'm 1613 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna pull up from fifteen feet or floated up to 1614 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, and I think he connected with a D 1615 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 1: on one of those for a layup. But the point 1616 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: is is like he did well, so I don't want 1617 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: to undercut it by any stretch of the imagination. But 1618 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,680 Speaker 1: it kind of preaches there kind of comes back to 1619 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 1: what Roger and I have been talking about, like, it's 1620 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 1: not a hard job. What what these guards are asked 1621 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: to do in this system alongside the better players is 1622 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 1: not that hard of a job. What happened tonight, in 1623 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: my opinion, was the job became difficult because of some 1624 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: lineup decisions from Frank. You know, playing Mellow and Molik, 1625 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Monk and Russ and Rondo at the same time. You're 1626 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: making it so that that job is extremely complicated for 1627 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 1: those guys, and so I think that that that's my 1628 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 1: theory on it is is just you know, keep things 1629 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: simple and these guys will knock it out of the park. 1630 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 1: But you've got to disperse your defensive minutes. You're the 1631 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,720 Speaker 1: players you have that are good defensive players. You have 1632 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,799 Speaker 1: to disperse them in a manner that makes it easier 1633 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: for the players who have, you know, some challenges with 1634 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 1: that throughout their career. It did appear that he was 1635 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:52,799 Speaker 1: somewhat like he understood what his role was and he agree, yeah, sure, Bradley, 1636 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean bin League a while now, I was I 1637 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 1: hope that they resigned him actually that summer when I 1638 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,839 Speaker 1: think he into Miami or whatever. But again, like eighties 1639 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: high on him. They called it, they called their defense 1640 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: to Avery challenge. I mean, that's pretty high regards to 1641 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 1: put his name in there, and like he's a good 1642 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 1: point of attack defender. I thought like it wasn't fair 1643 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 1: for him to be put in that position where he 1644 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: had to come in and be the on ball guy 1645 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: on steph. Right after STEP's been resting, Step comes back, 1646 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: Step comes back to a lead. You know he was 1647 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: They were down when he went out. Step comes back 1648 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: to teams up six you get Step, he's on him, 1649 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 1: and I thought he did a fine job. And again 1650 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: he they ran the actions that they do a little 1651 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: little dribble handoff off the little horns and he makes 1652 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: that Like you said, Jason, it's a really quick read. Right, 1653 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 1: it's either take the mid range pull up or you know, 1654 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,599 Speaker 1: hit a d on the roll or hit the week 1655 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 1: side shoot or whatever. I thought he was fine, but again, 1656 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't really fair for me to put him in 1657 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 1: that situation and give the Warriors some credit. Like to me, 1658 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: they're a very unique team in terms of the way 1659 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,600 Speaker 1: that they run their actions and all the screening that 1660 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 1: they do, and you know, all the decisions they make 1661 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: you do off of steps, just off ball movement stuff. 1662 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 1: That's a really tough thing. And when you combine that 1663 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 1: with the bad defenders that we had out there, like 1664 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 1: you're talking about Jason Bronto, Mellow, all those dudes, like, 1665 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: it's not a recipe for success. And I thought the 1666 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: lead wasn't really sustainable. Lebron and Adi were amazing, but 1667 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: I thought the Warriors would eventually kind of take it, 1668 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 1: and they did. So we'll see on Friday, but try. 1669 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming out man, appreciate guys, Thank you, 1670 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,880 Speaker 1: thank you. All Right, guys, that's all we have for tonight. 1671 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 1: I will be posting this on our podcast feed here 1672 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 1: within the next fifteen minutes, hopefully if I don't fall asleep, 1673 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 1: and then we will. UM. This will be airing on 1674 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 1: DASH Radio tomorrow at seven am Pacific Standard time on 1675 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the Nothing but Net channel. As always, we sincerely appreciate 1676 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 1: you guys support, thanks for listening to Roger and I 1677 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: venting our way through that UM long season. There's gonna 1678 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 1: be a lot of good I'm sure a lot of 1679 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 1: reasons for us to be excited. Um but good, A 1680 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 1: good interesting way to start the season, which you say, 1681 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: very interesting. And remember this is a day one, so 1682 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 1: don't not exhaust yourself. This day one of a very 1683 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 1: long process, so we're just at the beginning of it. It 1684 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,320 Speaker 1: It should be a fun season. Appreciate everyone that came 1685 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 1: and listened and and stayed this long, honestly till eleven 1686 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 1: listening to us.