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Speaker 1: what's up? What's happening everybody? How you doing? I'm good?
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Speaker 1: would like you too, Yeah please, yeah, what's good? Nothing yet?
Speaker 1: I've been getting ready for this show that I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready to do. We got this album. There's this record store,
Speaker 1: slash record label and Savannah called grave Face and they're
Speaker 1: having like a twelve year thing. So I'm slate at
Speaker 1: to perform with a couple of other cool casts going
Speaker 1: down on Saturday. But I'm really trying to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a real, real official with it. So I think have
Speaker 1: been like rehearsing and ship. You know, that's great, get
Speaker 1: my set down nice and tight for it. But that's
Speaker 1: it's other than that's the same. Well, you know how
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm good, I'm good. I don't rehearse anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't have any shows coming up. I don't only
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're doing, You're doing important things,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get back on there, so no sooner
Speaker 1: or later. I got showing Atlanta December might playing like
Speaker 1: an Athens Pride and I know him by but yeah,
Speaker 1: things are good. Um. Today I fucking met this guy
Speaker 1: named Rafael Warnock. Apparently he's the black senator from the
Speaker 1: state of Georgia, and you know what, you know what,
Speaker 1: he's very chill dude, very chill dude, UM, very laid back.
Speaker 1: We talked about like the fucking quote unquote labor shortage,
Speaker 1: and he had like he was like pretty funny about that.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like labor shortage. I mean we
Speaker 1: all know that first of all, Um, seven thousand of
Speaker 1: those workers didn't come back because they died, and then
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of the rest of us. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's like get a job that pays you twelve hundred
Speaker 1: bucks a month and then for childcare because you're no
Speaker 1: longer at home to watch your children or do not
Speaker 1: have a job. So a lot of people chose that.
Speaker 1: It was like pretty straight up about the whole you know, like,
Speaker 1: why is this quote unquot labor shortage happening? Um? Really
Speaker 1: it's a it's really it's a living way to job shortage.
Speaker 1: That's why nikes ain't going back to work. John a
Speaker 1: little bit about that I heard, but yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like very just like funny and show. Oh. I mean
Speaker 1: so like what was he there for? Just to meet people?
Speaker 1: It seems like, you know, he's thinking about re election
Speaker 1: uhwo like tomorrow practically, and so he's like come into
Speaker 1: touch base with the folks. Um and uh yeah, so asapasta,
Speaker 1: how's everything looking in the district? House? House things looking
Speaker 1: for him? For you out here? Man, it's bad. Not
Speaker 1: Like as soon as I left the meeting, somebody called me.
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, these people in your district just
Speaker 1: got their house shot off last week. What we're gonna
Speaker 1: do about it? And so we're meeting on Friday, Like
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, you want more constant patrol, which
Speaker 1: is cool. I'm gonna email them, you know, police sergeant
Speaker 1: guy for our area tomorrow. I let them know because
Speaker 1: if that's what the people wh want, that's what the
Speaker 1: people get. But we're also gonna be on Friday to
Speaker 1: be like also and or instead, let's try this because
Speaker 1: I've been like researching this program that they do a
Speaker 1: lot of other cities called Cure Violence, where they just
Speaker 1: like hired like gangstass niggas to like just go to
Speaker 1: the gangs and be like, please don't shoot each other
Speaker 1: and not like in a but like like nigga understand,
Speaker 1: like why are you killing each other? But I fucking
Speaker 1: get it, Like you don't, like you can do something
Speaker 1: like you you can have a better life than this
Speaker 1: and you can resolve your conflicts without this. And it's
Speaker 1: been working with a lot of places. I would hope
Speaker 1: that happens like more often and outside of the context
Speaker 1: of like a organization having to put it together. It
Speaker 1: seems like back in the day, like o Gez used
Speaker 1: to do that a lot more just on general principle, like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I can't have these young shooting each other,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm the O G I gotta like, I
Speaker 1: can't participate in that ship. I gotta like, you know, well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Yeah, a lot of people do it
Speaker 1: in their spare time because they're just humanitarians. But like
Speaker 1: they're walking six hours a week at the fucking plant
Speaker 1: or whatever they're you know, what if they could do
Speaker 1: this as a career, like we're like their whole job
Speaker 1: forty hours a week, fucking gang niggas don't shoot each other.
Speaker 1: I think about half a feeling that would be. So
Speaker 1: it's like there's definitely a lot of people qualified to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. Yeah, So it's like a very in
Speaker 1: my in my view, a very specialized skill set of
Speaker 1: like knowing the streets, having been there yourself, you know,
Speaker 1: and learning these other like very empirically based like ways
Speaker 1: of you know, volve in conflict and like you know,
Speaker 1: changing community norms around conflict and ship. But it's what
Speaker 1: we've been doing this whole time. It's just that people
Speaker 1: do it electively. The people just do it out of
Speaker 1: the goodness of their hearts and then they got to
Speaker 1: go work two jobs, three jobs in order to like
Speaker 1: keep their kids out the streets to pay for you know,
Speaker 1: the basketball program because the kids don't get caught up
Speaker 1: in the ship. So I mean it's all part of
Speaker 1: the you know, the cycle's like, yeah, we all have
Speaker 1: so much of our own ship that we have to
Speaker 1: worry about the like we can't focus on like these
Speaker 1: giant backro problems that ship. Right, I work with this
Speaker 1: cat named Darius. Shout out to Darius, um save the us.
Speaker 1: We bought a bus this summer to take kids to
Speaker 1: like programs and ship. And Darius has been in jail.
Speaker 1: There's like probably moved way back in the day. There
Speaker 1: is might a shot someone. I don't know why Darius
Speaker 1: d but when he brings the kids out to the
Speaker 1: car wash where the people come get the car wash,
Speaker 1: the kids make a little bit of money and it's
Speaker 1: like a healthy place with the kids to be after school.
Speaker 1: The kids love that Darius wasn't jail once. The kids
Speaker 1: like look up to him so much because he was
Speaker 1: in jail. Ones and you look up to him because
Speaker 1: he's like, y'all don't want to do that. Y'all don't
Speaker 1: want to be me Like, they ain't gonna listen to
Speaker 1: a Nike that's never been there. They're not gonna listen
Speaker 1: to somebody that don't really know, but they listen to
Speaker 1: there is because there's has been to jail. And so
Speaker 1: it's like that fundamental model of like you have to
Speaker 1: have been there to know, and we should pay people
Speaker 1: with that that skill set and that expertise to do
Speaker 1: the work of disrupting the violence in the community. Anyway.
Speaker 1: People getting shot around ship man, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: we're getting shot around here too. Yeah. We ain't got
Speaker 1: anohing on Savannah probably No. I mean, yo, there's like
Speaker 1: some next level warfare ship going on, and this, I
Speaker 1: mean they're like like, motherfucker's just coming across motherfuckers, this
Speaker 1: coming from different states up in here. It's a start ship.
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad. Um, But what do we got for
Speaker 1: the show today? We're gonna be doing fresh back from
Speaker 1: attorney to leave somewhat. Um. We there's so much has
Speaker 1: been happening that we haven't got the chance to talk
Speaker 1: about in like a fresh way in terms of just
Speaker 1: like keeping up with the ongoing happenings around the country.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a news episode. We look at
Speaker 1: the news, we go talk a little bit about the baby,
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about meek Mill, squid games, a
Speaker 1: little bit of abortion ban or lack thereof, Thank you
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. You know, just a little bit of everything. Today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some Dave Chappelle comedy special enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we will be back with that and more after the job.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back
Speaker 1: in the house. So what do we got first for
Speaker 1: the people today? So, as you may know, the Justice
Speaker 1: Department filed it's lawsuit against Texas last month for for
Speaker 1: but they alleged with an unconstitutional ban on abortion at
Speaker 1: six weeks UM no carve out conclusions for incests, rape
Speaker 1: or sexual assault of any kind. For the dresser Department
Speaker 1: argue that this Senate bill sent A Bill eight was
Speaker 1: unconstitutional because it violated the supremacy clause as well as
Speaker 1: the equal protection afforded under the Fourteenth Amendment. And it
Speaker 1: also um they said, violated uh U s Supreme Court
Speaker 1: President um. And then this week, in a one page ruling,
Speaker 1: US disc Court Judge Robert Pittman said that from the
Speaker 1: moment uh SPA went to effect women have been unlawfully
Speaker 1: prevented from exercise and control over their lives and ways
Speaker 1: that are protected by the Constitution. Um. I'm gonna jumping
Speaker 1: into the article real quick to add a little bit
Speaker 1: of a little bit of Now, this is one of
Speaker 1: those ones that happened when you were on your break
Speaker 1: that like, I definitely want to get your thoughts off.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those sort of things that
Speaker 1: was like I kind of already know what you think
Speaker 1: about it, but well you know about it. Here about it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. What I want to hear what you think
Speaker 1: about Yeah, I want to think about it is abortion
Speaker 1: will always be saying some legal for rich women, rich people,
Speaker 1: I should say, um. And so really for me, this
Speaker 1: is like this is like such a fundamentally working class issue. Um.
Speaker 1: It's it disproportionately and almost in a targeted way. UM
Speaker 1: seeks to like oppress for women of color, poor people
Speaker 1: of color, who can't travel, who can't jump on a
Speaker 1: plane and go to California and get an abortion. So
Speaker 1: it's like not just like oh, you hate women like
Speaker 1: you specifically hate poor people that seek abortions. UM, And
Speaker 1: so looking at it, you know from actually like okay,
Speaker 1: from like a class perspective, like it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a class struble issue. But interestingly UM as an aside.
Speaker 1: I've been reading this book called Freedom Dreams. It's talking
Speaker 1: about like the black radical tradition throughout history, and like
Speaker 1: talked about different people talked about how the black feminist
Speaker 1: movement um as a in part because the influence of
Speaker 1: the Nation of Islam, Like there's a lot of pushback
Speaker 1: against like the white feminists call for, like you know,
Speaker 1: abortion on demand because it was seen as like a
Speaker 1: form of population control in the black community. It's a
Speaker 1: form of like genocide. I think you still hear a
Speaker 1: lot of those talking points repeated to day um, but
Speaker 1: those are the people that are seeking to control maybe
Speaker 1: keep his party there. Dont those you know, Black women
Speaker 1: are the kinds of people you hear on Fox News
Speaker 1: that they don't want to reproduce, like oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be overtaken, Oh the great replacement theory, Like you can
Speaker 1: say all day, Oh, it's population controls genocide. It was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's every single person's decision for themselves, and this is
Speaker 1: what they you know, they they're they're trying to oppress
Speaker 1: you about banning these things. This is not anything for
Speaker 1: our benefit was whatever. I mean, this is all like
Speaker 1: part of an ongoing Texas project that seems like the
Speaker 1: Texas Republicans have been working on, which is just try
Speaker 1: to establish like the Maga state, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like a state where pretty much all of those all
Speaker 1: of those decrees that Trump kind of made on a whim,
Speaker 1: things that couldn't really go through or it's just who
Speaker 1: was talking on Twitter. It's like the Texas Republicans are
Speaker 1: actually trying to govern the state like that and have
Speaker 1: like all of these like extreme rights. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that this is the end of it. I think that,
Speaker 1: I mean, assuming that nothing gets done about it, I
Speaker 1: think they're just going to keep trying to push like
Speaker 1: the limits of of what type of different extreme things
Speaker 1: that they can pass down there until they're not in power.
Speaker 1: I mean, and they try it in Arkansas, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna try it and like wherever they're starting at first
Speaker 1: in Texas, I think they know they can get a
Speaker 1: lot of this ship like cram through the pass, ye
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I mean they're they're celebrating
Speaker 1: like cops on horseback whippin people one day, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and then the next day they're like
Speaker 1: passing through like extreme abortion meators. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if they passed through some statewide stop and frisk stuff soon,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's already on the books for all
Speaker 1: that I know. Fuck. But thankfully, with regards to reproductive
Speaker 1: freedom and justice, UM, a federal judge did block the
Speaker 1: enforcement of texas is controversial new abortion law, UM, granting
Speaker 1: an emergency requestioned the Justice Department. So we will see.
Speaker 1: They will live to find another day. Unfortunately, UM, it's
Speaker 1: definitely going to be a block enforcement with a law
Speaker 1: on a temporary basis basis, and you know, for now
Speaker 1: it's unclear how long I'm gonna be an effect, So
Speaker 1: we will see how long the battle goes on. Do
Speaker 1: we know what other states are trying to pass? They definitely,
Speaker 1: I mean the Georgia State Legislature is not in session
Speaker 1: right now, but already people like Butch Miller, who's also
Speaker 1: running a belief for the attendant governor have you know,
Speaker 1: declared that they will, like the gleefully can't wait to
Speaker 1: get get the fucking state legislature into session to start
Speaker 1: crafting equally nefarious bills of their own. I'm not aware
Speaker 1: of like what other states, like you know, fucking dashes
Speaker 1: are plotting right now, but it's definitely happening. It looks
Speaker 1: like Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Mississippi, Michigan, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I hate that. As you said that, I heard it
Speaker 1: in my head to like the Animaniacs tune of like
Speaker 1: the fifty states in yeah, why do why do? Why?
Speaker 1: Does that make me feel like I gotta say, for
Speaker 1: some of you all out there, the Animaniacs was a
Speaker 1: cartoon back Damn. Don't like that. Can't even give him
Speaker 1: no door. The explo are some new ship. You're gonna
Speaker 1: hit him with an Animaniac's reference Animaniacs, I would have
Speaker 1: hit it. I would have given a tiny tumbs on
Speaker 1: the ass. Fuck. Alright, So up next we're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about this is kind of a continuation of when
Speaker 1: we each had about We talked a little bit about
Speaker 1: the Facebook whistle blower coming forward to review serious harm
Speaker 1: being perpetrated against young people who were using these platforms,
Speaker 1: particularly Instagram, um worsening or or inciting, you know, eating
Speaker 1: disorders or suicidal audiation and page um girls, things like that,
Speaker 1: and so those really interesting reading up on the testimony
Speaker 1: on hearing that it seems to be at issue that's
Speaker 1: uniting Republicans and Democrats. UH Senator Marsha Blackburn, Republicans and
Speaker 1: Tennessee accused Facebook of intentionally targeting children under d h
Speaker 1: their tea with an addictive product, saying it's clear that
Speaker 1: Facebook prior types of profit over the well being of
Speaker 1: children and all users. And then she was, you know,
Speaker 1: echoed by UH subcommittee chair Richard Blumenthal, Democrat from Necticut,
Speaker 1: UM say he was like, yeah, bet same, what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? And so it's interesting that like we
Speaker 1: found some common grounds, like everything hates Facebook. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: we like we can all unite to take him down. Unlikely,
Speaker 1: But that's a that's like a two edged thing because
Speaker 1: on on one hand, on one hand, I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying, but I think that that united front is
Speaker 1: like resting on you know, very unshaky foundation, because are
Speaker 1: very shaky foundation, because like the reasons that we hate
Speaker 1: Facebook are completely different, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we hate Facebook because it's causing harm to children and
Speaker 1: and sewing division and spreading hate and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: disseminating this information. They hate Facebook because they banned Trump
Speaker 1: after he tried to do a coup. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, stuff like they're not even It's like just
Speaker 1: because it's this thing that I always feel about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, finding solidarity with the right wingers, And it's
Speaker 1: like if they have the same solutions as we do,
Speaker 1: been cool and I like and likely event that the
Speaker 1: solutions to similar problems are the same. But in most
Speaker 1: cases when we do share the same problems, our solutions
Speaker 1: and reasonings for it is like wildly different and ship
Speaker 1: like that. The second thing is, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that is going to hold up because I've already seen
Speaker 1: on Fox News the whole whatever the Democrats and whatever
Speaker 1: the lips do, do the opposite. I've already seen that
Speaker 1: ship taken hold. I've seen Laura Ingram, Well, why did
Speaker 1: they hate Facebook all of a sudden? We Maybe Facebook
Speaker 1: isn't doing anything wrong, I mean simply because the Democrats
Speaker 1: have an issue with it. So I mean, if that starts,
Speaker 1: if that filters down to Trump and he gives the word,
Speaker 1: I think Marsha Blackbird will change her to turn. I
Speaker 1: think they should break it all up, to be honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not even yeah. I mean the fact that it went
Speaker 1: down in the way that it was, like severely interrupted
Speaker 1: communications for people who rely on it all over the globe.
Speaker 1: The fact that it could have that level of influence,
Speaker 1: like regardless of any sort of massive conglomerate, any sort
Speaker 1: of mass corporation that has that sort of like vice
Speaker 1: like grip on the public sphere like that. Then Okay,
Speaker 1: what a social media being Amazon funk all these niggas.
Speaker 1: It's wrong and it's it's the option, right, one might say, Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean on just pure antitrust ground breaking up.
Speaker 1: I wonder on what point would Facebook have done something different,
Speaker 1: you know, like how how bad would it have had
Speaker 1: to be before they would have been like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is an emergency, we have to We've got to change
Speaker 1: course or something like that. Because it really makes you wonder,
Speaker 1: because it's pretty bad like what it is, you know,
Speaker 1: like the harm that they already are causing, that they
Speaker 1: themselves did it internal you know, investigation and researching to
Speaker 1: find out our company is actually causing these effects. You
Speaker 1: know what, guys don't pay attention to that let's just
Speaker 1: keep doing what we're doing, business as usual. We've got
Speaker 1: to get this bread. I mean, what if it was
Speaker 1: really like, what if in their internal investigation it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: Facebook can cause mass suicide? Like they probably would have
Speaker 1: just said, nothing to see here, let's just how do
Speaker 1: we cover it up? They would have sent it to
Speaker 1: the comms department and media, like, hey, how do we
Speaker 1: spend this? Like, well, the mass suicides send all a
Speaker 1: bunch of people to have their nirvana, so they're not
Speaker 1: suffering anymore. It's great, you know, Like, maybe I'm naive,
Speaker 1: but if you had asked me ten years ago would
Speaker 1: Facebook become the corporation from the Aliens movies? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have guessed it. But that's where the funk we are
Speaker 1: right now. Where the funk we are right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you think that they're gonna do you think
Speaker 1: you think any of that breaking up talk that we're
Speaker 1: talking isn't even a possibility? Here is? I don't think
Speaker 1: enough people genuinely care in order for any action to
Speaker 1: be taken, because one side is really cut up in
Speaker 1: a culture war market, Rubio putting forward bills to ban
Speaker 1: wokeness and corporations or something like these people deeply, deeply
Speaker 1: on serious and so I just like don't think that
Speaker 1: they also think that the issue is so like it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's weird because Facebook is like so ubiquitous
Speaker 1: and yet the problem is so niche and that like
Speaker 1: people don't think it affects their bottom line, their bread
Speaker 1: and butter, the kitching table issues of just like what
Speaker 1: impacts their wallet, their family will being you know, things
Speaker 1: like infrastructure or child tax credits or you know, just
Speaker 1: stuff of the every day. Uh, the issue of whether
Speaker 1: or not an algorithm, which, first of all, what really
Speaker 1: is an algorithm? I couldn't explain when an algorithm is
Speaker 1: to you could the average voter. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: in the impacts that it's having our childings about their health,
Speaker 1: all these things are so I guess in a sense
Speaker 1: of seal that I don't think people in Congress are
Speaker 1: going to take it seriously because it's not gonna impact
Speaker 1: it's not gonna like resonate with any vote. So what's
Speaker 1: the point. Yeah, like you're gonna read on Facebook one
Speaker 1: day on your eighteenth hour of scrolling that Sunday that
Speaker 1: you know, oh, we've been Facebook's algorithm that was directing
Speaker 1: girls to content that's making them suicidal. Like and you're like, huh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You're gonna keep scrolling through Facebook. Ultimately, That's
Speaker 1: how I feel about that. So let's move on to
Speaker 1: this next one. This is probably going to the hottest
Speaker 1: button topic of the week or last few weeks, I
Speaker 1: guess so. Famed comedian Dave Chappelle recently put out a
Speaker 1: new special on Netflix called The Closer, and, as has
Speaker 1: been the pattern with all of his other Netflix specials,
Speaker 1: it has caused a uproar of controversy over his uh, homophobic,
Speaker 1: transphobic lyrics or did I say lyrics been comedy? Bit Um,
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in hearing your take first before you
Speaker 1: go into because you said you watched it recently, right,
Speaker 1: I did. They watched on Sunday. I tried to cry
Speaker 1: on my way to my friend's fucking birthday party because
Speaker 1: I was a little mad. All right, Well, going into that,
Speaker 1: before you get on what you're you know why it
Speaker 1: caused you to have that reaction, Let's start back to, like,
Speaker 1: if you can't remember back when he first started doing
Speaker 1: these uh Netflix specials, because each one of them have
Speaker 1: had a, you know, a controversy attached with it as
Speaker 1: far as like on this particular show. I think maybe
Speaker 1: the last one didn't because that was the COVID one,
Speaker 1: So he was mainly talking about like George Floyd COVID stuff.
Speaker 1: But what is your what have you been thinking about
Speaker 1: de Chapel in this since he has made this comeback
Speaker 1: where he's been doing the comedy specials and being in
Speaker 1: the public eye more and stuff like that, what have
Speaker 1: you been thinking about the controversy surrounding him leading up
Speaker 1: to this? I mean, it's funny because I had seen
Speaker 1: very I've recently seen like the last couple of years
Speaker 1: of Netflix specialists of his, and well it felt like
Speaker 1: it was creeping into an uncomfortable territory with regards to
Speaker 1: LGBTQ issues. UM. Ultimately I still mostly laughed, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: the balance of my experience of the special I might
Speaker 1: have a moment of discomfort, but mostly I was happy,
Speaker 1: mostly find really funny. Um, even in the parts they're problematic,
Speaker 1: were um touch points for conversation around the problems and solves,
Speaker 1: So not necessarily for nothing or these like somewhat sticky
Speaker 1: uncomfortable issues being raised. Um, but in this one, I
Speaker 1: feel like he was his ego had been so bruised
Speaker 1: by the beating he had taken regarding that earlier content
Speaker 1: that that agree to which he doubled down on it
Speaker 1: took it into a territory. I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is not this isn't fun anymore. Like this is a
Speaker 1: fun anymore. Man. He was weird. It was really weird.
Speaker 1: It's really weird. And I will say, you know, as
Speaker 1: a person identifies as queer, um and hearing the way
Speaker 1: he talked about the black community in contrast to the
Speaker 1: gay community, as if there are two separate things and
Speaker 1: there aren't people that fall into both categories. Um, he
Speaker 1: even you know, I don't want to know burning of
Speaker 1: his jokes, right thing, but he even talks about um, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with transgender people. I have
Speaker 1: I have a problem with the white people, as if
Speaker 1: all transgender people are white. Um. Like when it started
Speaker 1: to get into that territory was like the first thing
Speaker 1: that took me out of it. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we exist, right, like, you know those people in the
Speaker 1: black community who are trans, who are bisexual, who are gay, lesbian,
Speaker 1: Like he's always attacking um, transness as white and like
Speaker 1: lgbt qt nous as white when I was like, no,
Speaker 1: niked like we out here too. In fact, you know,
Speaker 1: fucking Stonewall Marshas B. Johnson, you know, he threw the
Speaker 1: shock glass heard around the world and started at the
Speaker 1: Stonewall riots allegedly what was the fucking black transax worker,
Speaker 1: Like she was a woman of color and so to
Speaker 1: just ignore were then that's like, that is the genesis
Speaker 1: of everything we know Pride to me today, every Pride
Speaker 1: celebration you know and they've ever seen and been to
Speaker 1: heard about came from sucking Stonewall, which was led by
Speaker 1: women of color, who were trans and who were queer,
Speaker 1: and like just totally erase that whole history and be
Speaker 1: like nope, you're either black and you're straight, or you're
Speaker 1: why are you queer? Or you fucking or I hope
Speaker 1: you die? Okay, I don't know was what took me
Speaker 1: out of it initially? Okay, so then what so then
Speaker 1: how did escalate from there? For you? Um? Without you
Speaker 1: get too many spoilers. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: these things have become memes and so like, I think
Speaker 1: this is public knowledge. If you haven't seen the special,
Speaker 1: he says, I'm team Turf, saying that he's on the
Speaker 1: same team as like trans exclusionary radical feminists pretty much,
Speaker 1: people who don't think trans people are there are are there,
Speaker 1: you know, their gender that they identify with, you know,
Speaker 1: especially trans women not being women. Let me run down
Speaker 1: some of these before before you continue, just to you know,
Speaker 1: because this is like she said, this isn't really spoiling
Speaker 1: it because a lot of this stuff is already out there,
Speaker 1: but just to run down some things that he said
Speaker 1: in the special for anybody who's wondering, Um, this I
Speaker 1: guess will kind of be spoiler quotes. Um he said, Uh,
Speaker 1: any of you who have ever watched me know that
Speaker 1: I've never had a problem with transgender people. If you
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying, clearly, my problem has always
Speaker 1: been with white people. That's going to your point about
Speaker 1: not acknowledging that there are definitely a lot of black
Speaker 1: transgender people, my dude, and histhanic and yeah, like an
Speaker 1: indigenous like to say like, oh I hate oh my problems.
Speaker 1: You know all these trans white trans people and those
Speaker 1: are the only trans people exist and defending what's her
Speaker 1: name of the Harry Potter, Lady J k Rowland, Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was supporting her um talking about it, and she's
Speaker 1: herself has been caught in some controversies, some anti trans controversy,
Speaker 1: but he said, I'm team turf Uh. At the end
Speaker 1: of the comedy special, he says, all I ask of
Speaker 1: your community, with all humility, will you please stop punching
Speaker 1: down on my people? And that's probably the part of
Speaker 1: the ship that really rubbed me wrong because I felt
Speaker 1: that's just like the accumination of everything that you just
Speaker 1: said in terms of like the whole thing felt like
Speaker 1: it had this eerie vibe of I mean, if I
Speaker 1: were just to oversimplify it, it felt like the mission
Speaker 1: statement of the special was like the gay community and
Speaker 1: the black community or at odds because Kevin Harten the
Speaker 1: baby Lost Gigs. It doesn't that sound dumb like it
Speaker 1: just it just had this weird like you know, It's like,
Speaker 1: if the point of it is not to put black
Speaker 1: people against gay people, then what was the point? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because it wasn't you touched on
Speaker 1: my big other problem with it. It's putting these marginalized
Speaker 1: communities against each other, as if it's a it's like
Speaker 1: it's a race, like, oh, we gotta get like one
Speaker 1: of us is going to make it to the top,
Speaker 1: the others we gotta step on their heads to get there,
Speaker 1: which is I think I think speaks to the nature
Speaker 1: of the jokes stepping on the heads of another mortalized
Speaker 1: group in order to yourself ascend, when it's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm in. All of our liberations are tied together, like
Speaker 1: black people a free, or straight black people a free
Speaker 1: until queer black people are free, until queer white people
Speaker 1: are free, until you know, Mexican trans people are free.
Speaker 1: Like we all gotta fight together against the people who
Speaker 1: are really killed causing us all the problems, which just
Speaker 1: fucking you know, Jeff suffer. Jeff Zuckerberg one of those stitches.
Speaker 1: So here's my here's my overall problem with the stave
Speaker 1: of Chappelle Special. Right, it's not even you know, it's
Speaker 1: like taking myself out of it. I have way more
Speaker 1: there's way more of an issue with the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the situation than the special itself. To me, in the
Speaker 1: time that the Special has come out, like all of
Speaker 1: the worst human beings in the world have come from
Speaker 1: under the rocks and holes that they hide him to
Speaker 1: like give praise to Dave Chappelle. Dachapelle's got it right.
Speaker 1: He's one of the good ones. He knows what it is.
Speaker 1: Telling these well, that's PC culture. If there's literally there's
Speaker 1: not literal goose stepping Nazis are online like talking about
Speaker 1: like yo, man, that was yeah. Dave Chappelle, he like
Speaker 1: gets like there's people, there's people who I should you
Speaker 1: not who Just last week we're praising, Oh, look at
Speaker 1: the cops beating those Haitians with the whips on horseback.
Speaker 1: We need more of that in the streets. We need
Speaker 1: to do it out like those same exact people are
Speaker 1: talking about like, oh, man, Dave Chappelle is awesome. Dave
Speaker 1: Chapelle is awesome. Now, I don't want to like man
Speaker 1: shin too many of them, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because like I don't want to like give shine to
Speaker 1: any whack ship. But for me, it's just weird that
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle is not saying anything like Nazism like I mean,
Speaker 1: and and when I say Nazis, I mean I'm talking
Speaker 1: like some of them figuratively and some quite literally. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, there's one cat. Again, I'm trying
Speaker 1: not to mention it, but there's one cat who who
Speaker 1: made a video of him and his friends, like with
Speaker 1: one of his friends putting his knee on the back
Speaker 1: of his neck to like make a demonstration of Oh,
Speaker 1: George Floyd wasn't really in any danger. He died from
Speaker 1: Fete Mille. In this dude is talking about man Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle's awesome day Chapelle's office. Now, the thing is, if
Speaker 1: I was talking about like some internet trolls or like
Speaker 1: people with egg avatars and ship like that, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously there's no reason for Dave Chappelle to feel any
Speaker 1: sort of like responsibility to like acknowledge that or engaged
Speaker 1: with those people. Whatever. The motherfucker's that I'm talking about
Speaker 1: get more likes, views, and retweets than most of the
Speaker 1: rappers of de Chappell be hanging out with, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So these are people with platforms and
Speaker 1: voices who just yesterday we're saying black people deserve to
Speaker 1: be whipped on horseback, and now today here Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: said something about trans people. Yeah, do it so effectively
Speaker 1: whether he knows it or not, Like not like a
Speaker 1: lot of this ship isn't dependent on people being active
Speaker 1: participants or not. Whether de Chappelle realizes it or not,
Speaker 1: he's effectively serving the same purpose as Candice Owens is
Speaker 1: in this instance straight out you gotta have some real
Speaker 1: ship of self reflection to look around you and be like,
Speaker 1: is that Ben Shapiro? Oh wait, is that bitch watters class?
Speaker 1: Or you like what I said? Oh no, I mean
Speaker 1: what did that? Do you that moment? That moment I
Speaker 1: talked about the Joe Rogan ship, Right, But like motherfucker's
Speaker 1: can say whatever, Like you can say whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say about Joe Rogan. You can say people criticize
Speaker 1: them unfairly or blah blah, blah blah. One thing that
Speaker 1: is a fact is that, for like two years of
Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan Show, the main topic of discussion that
Speaker 1: he wanted to talk about with every white guest was man,
Speaker 1: you know, black people are just born with low i q,
Speaker 1: and everyone says we're racist when we talk about it.
Speaker 1: How come we can't talk about these things? How black
Speaker 1: people are genetically inferior and born with low i Q. Like,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is whether Joe Rogan has an explanation
Speaker 1: for why that was like something he wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: I just always as like a fan. Just imagine, damn
Speaker 1: if Their Chappelle was sitting across the table from somebody
Speaker 1: who was doing that, he would probably check Start and
Speaker 1: Day Chappelle has been on the show like twice since
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has been on that. Ship and Day Chappelle
Speaker 1: didn't say ship about that. They're smoked hey, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like when you see it back
Speaker 1: then and it alarms you when you see it like
Speaker 1: two years ago or not even two years ago. I
Speaker 1: think the last Day Chappelle Joe Rogan interview was like
Speaker 1: maybe like five or six months ago. When you see it,
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, that's weird. Like Joe Rogan was definitely
Speaker 1: going off all all pandemic about like you know, like
Speaker 1: protesters should stop in black lives matters out of hand,
Speaker 1: and terrorists and the cops we gotta trust the cops,
Speaker 1: and ship like really, like dude, she probably got shipped
Speaker 1: to say about that like at all. So now ship
Speaker 1: like this puts it in a different sort of context
Speaker 1: for a cat like me. And again I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not talking about the special. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the aftermath of this ship. It's super weird. He had
Speaker 1: he had a public event where at the end of
Speaker 1: it he was like, Hey, if this is what getting
Speaker 1: canceled looks like, then I love it. Fox, fuck ms NBC, funck,
Speaker 1: ABC A tall freak. There was a huge admission to that.
Speaker 1: I have no choice but to think it was deliberate
Speaker 1: unless I thought Dave Chappelle was stupid. But I don't
Speaker 1: think they've Chappelle is stupid, So I think that's a
Speaker 1: deliberate thing. He deliberately left Fox News out of that
Speaker 1: because he has a fan base. Now he's getting that paper,
Speaker 1: and that's the fan base that he's got. You know
Speaker 1: when I say fan base, now, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: whole new crop of fans. If you're out there and
Speaker 1: you're a dear Chapelle fan, you've been a Dear Chappelle
Speaker 1: fan since the Chappelle shell. Oh you got You've got
Speaker 1: some new brothers and sisters and arms on your team.
Speaker 1: So a lot of them were storming the Capitol a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. I re
Speaker 1: watch The Chapelle Show recently, and other than the nostalgia value,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't that funny there I said it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could wrap with you on that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I stand with me, stand with the fucking the new fans.
Speaker 1: Tell you what you want. I mean, you like the
Speaker 1: company you KEI you like the company you key. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just at the bottom line, you know, the
Speaker 1: ship was that was just whack. That's wha. I've watched
Speaker 1: it for you and we didn't like it, So don't
Speaker 1: do it. Don't give him the clicks I mean for you.
Speaker 1: I'm not again, I'm not gonna tell anybody to not
Speaker 1: watch anything like like if you all I'm saying is
Speaker 1: I thought the ship was whack. I'm a queer folks
Speaker 1: and l lgbt Q. Everybody don't watch it. I was
Speaker 1: very upset. I thought I'd be like, oh, an interesting,
Speaker 1: just intellectual exercise to see how I feel. Just to pause,
Speaker 1: you know the meaning of the jokes. No, I know.
Speaker 1: I did not enjoy it. I mean, okay, in fairness,
Speaker 1: he did bring up some interesting things which I won't
Speaker 1: get into in case anyone's gonna watch it. It doesn't
Speaker 1: wantny spoilers. There's someone that's very insightful, but not in
Speaker 1: relation to anything translated everything. How much of the special
Speaker 1: would you say the trans stuff took up? It was
Speaker 1: like a lot of it. I was like, Bro, you
Speaker 1: made your boy fucking stop Jesus. So let's talk on
Speaker 1: and on. Man, let's let's go on a little bit
Speaker 1: more about this. So since the whole thing with that happened, um,
Speaker 1: you've had let me go to Okay, So since that
Speaker 1: all happened, you've had you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: have spoken out against it. Glad has spoken out. UM.
Speaker 1: Trans woman who actually works for Netflix put out a
Speaker 1: tweet that read, yesterday we launched another Chappelle special where
Speaker 1: he attacks the trans community and the very validity of transnis,
Speaker 1: all while trying to pit us against other marginalized groups.
Speaker 1: You're going to hear a lot of talk about offense.
Speaker 1: We are not offended. And she was later suspended from Netflix.
Speaker 1: Now they they say it was for trying to get
Speaker 1: into a meeting that she wasn't invited to. But um,
Speaker 1: it came shortly after that thread of tweets went viral. Um.
Speaker 1: Other comedians and celebrities have come out in praise of
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, including this one interesting one that I wanted
Speaker 1: to run by you Varry, because like, if this is
Speaker 1: where things are going, holy shit, do I have some thoughts.
Speaker 1: So comedian Damon Wayne's offered his praise Dave Chappelle, and
Speaker 1: he said, quote, I feel like Dave freed the slaves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the comedians. We were slaves to PC culture. And he
Speaker 1: just you know, as an artist, he's Van Gogh. He
Speaker 1: cut his ear off. He's trying to tell us it's okay,
Speaker 1: I've always been free. But um, I just think he's saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, all that I have, I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: to lose it for the sake of creative freeness of speech.
Speaker 1: You can't edit yourself. Comedians who were like Mercedes makes
Speaker 1: great cars, but you gotta crash a lot before they're perfect. Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 1: So white people's, particularly who work in electoral politics, are
Speaker 1: so confused and blinded to the amount of conservatism in
Speaker 1: the black community. Yeah, like that's straight up, where are
Speaker 1: we talking points? I've I've said this before on this show.
Speaker 1: If Republicans literally just narrowed down their focus too, we
Speaker 1: hate gay people and poor people. They would have like
Speaker 1: of the black vote really happened to hate black people
Speaker 1: doing Yeah, they can't control they can't control the hatred
Speaker 1: that end like trying not to say it, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's definitely a right wing talking point. And it's
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, it doesn't he's trying to tell
Speaker 1: us it's okay to do what to do what they
Speaker 1: could Like you're damon Wayne, David. Wayne's has been richer
Speaker 1: longer than he was a regular human being. Yeah, stop,
Speaker 1: I think that even I think that might even apply
Speaker 1: for Dave Chappelle too. I think that Chappelle has been
Speaker 1: richer longer than rich and famous longer than you was
Speaker 1: a regular person. So like I mean, at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, here in this ship, like these niggas ain't
Speaker 1: really living like on Earth and ship. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the fund is going on, but I know that
Speaker 1: if if if people are gonna start, let me put
Speaker 1: on like my African let me put on my African
Speaker 1: costume right now so I can so I can talk
Speaker 1: about this and address this with a certain level of detachment,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean addressed, Like if African Americans
Speaker 1: are gonna start hopping on this bandwagon of like PC
Speaker 1: culture and oh I hate the Wokens and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Yo. You you, you have to be
Speaker 1: prepared to keep the energy up and to match the energy,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna come around the next time some country
Speaker 1: singer says some ship that you don't like, the next
Speaker 1: time some NASCAR driver or NFL quarterback is on camera
Speaker 1: saying some ship. Shut the funk up, shut up, shut
Speaker 1: all the way up. There's this picture that went viral,
Speaker 1: and it's of this Closer Comedy special. Right. It's a
Speaker 1: picture of Dave Chappelle, I think, kind of from behind him,
Speaker 1: and he's on stage and there's like the room is full,
Speaker 1: and everybody's like cackling, laughing their ass off, and there's
Speaker 1: these two I want to say women, but just in
Speaker 1: all fairness, they then I don't know, but these two
Speaker 1: people in the audience obviously looking uncomfortable in distress. That picture,
Speaker 1: this ship went viral. Everybody was looking at it, laughing,
Speaker 1: ha ha ha. Why don't you just stay home? Look
Speaker 1: at these two people? Don't like the show? These It
Speaker 1: was going around Like what I'm saying is keep that energy,
Speaker 1: because if that was Larry the Cable Guy going in
Speaker 1: on a forty minute bit about how black people aren't
Speaker 1: good fathers and they eat watermelon and fried chicken in
Speaker 1: a room full of white people's cackling and laughing, and
Speaker 1: there's two lone black people sitting there looking uncomfortable, and
Speaker 1: that picture is going viral with people laughing at there
Speaker 1: be a fucking Black Lives Matter march from here to
Speaker 1: fucking San Francisco and then maybe a lot of gay
Speaker 1: people in that march marching Wicks like, yeah, we get
Speaker 1: it exactly when he was like, oh, I'm team Turf.
Speaker 1: That's like so it's like sucking Lady the Cable Guy
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I'm in the Ku Klux Klan. It's
Speaker 1: like no way anyone that would ever be allowed, and
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be because that's fucking scary because that they
Speaker 1: were killing niggas as recently as recently, as recently, they
Speaker 1: still probably killing it. Does I think we need to?
Speaker 1: I think we need to. Let's just make my blood boy,
Speaker 1: We're gonna need to take a break and get into
Speaker 1: the music discussion. But I mean, you know, before we
Speaker 1: do it, though, I was just like can't nobody confuse
Speaker 1: me for anything even remotely woke. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's just I'm not saying that as like a virtue,
Speaker 1: and I'm not denigrating anything. It's just not who I am.
Speaker 1: It's just you know what I'm saying, It's just like,
Speaker 1: that's not the social circle that I like Roman and
Speaker 1: that Roman this is. But like, you don't have to
Speaker 1: be woke to recognize when ship is whack, yo, and
Speaker 1: to just critique it the way that I would critique
Speaker 1: some rap shit. The production might have been dope, the
Speaker 1: delivery might have been on point, but when I think
Speaker 1: of a content, nah, I don't funk with this, man,
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I got way more problems than blue
Speaker 1: haired fourteen year olds on Twitter saying bad stuff about comedians.
Speaker 1: Get the funk out of here, man, Nah, that's just whack.
Speaker 1: And if if if a community is telling you that
Speaker 1: something is hurting them and you keep doing it anyway,
Speaker 1: you don't care about them. And he can say all
Speaker 1: day long that he is a feminist, that you know
Speaker 1: he cares about transfolks, but that is simply true. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't cont to do something if it's hurting because
Speaker 1: somebody period and niggas like me where I'm from. When
Speaker 1: Neo Nazis is liking this ship that you do, usually
Speaker 1: you like reassess the ship did you do it? And
Speaker 1: you're like, oh wait, let me you think about that
Speaker 1: a bit, just one second. Anyway, we gotta pay some bills.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with the music discussion, y'all. Alright, so
Speaker 1: we are back with the music discussion. It's it's an
Speaker 1: odd one. We're not really talking about songs. Were just
Speaker 1: talking about We're talking about a musician. Yes, okay, So
Speaker 1: I don't even know which one to go at first
Speaker 1: because these are just like musing thoughts. But which one
Speaker 1: do you want? Do you want to talk about? Meek? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So um, speaking of also trying to give any spoilers, Um,
Speaker 1: I watched the game last week. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've seen any haven't seen yet. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: It's got Somebody tells me it's like the perfect blend
Speaker 1: of Battle Royale and Hunger Games. That's how it's been
Speaker 1: described to me. Oh, you froze for a second, but
Speaker 1: I think the audio probably still got captured a blend
Speaker 1: of Battle Royale and why in Hunger Games, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's got its own special twist on
Speaker 1: the general theme, particularly in making it a little more
Speaker 1: of an incisive critique on capitalism and the like. It's
Speaker 1: very plain to see. Like, it's very very plain to see.
Speaker 1: And me in a tweet called us Out, he said,
Speaker 1: in Squid Games, pay attention to have as people switch
Speaker 1: and kill each other to survive. Nothing about quote unquote
Speaker 1: hood property. It's the same exact same thing. If you
Speaker 1: just help them with work money, they won't be that way.
Speaker 1: It's just a common sense message. So he's like calling
Speaker 1: out like the underlying drive to accumulate capital to you know,
Speaker 1: stay alive, to future family, whatever you gotta do. Uh,
Speaker 1: spurring people to be blood the sea as hell, killing
Speaker 1: each other like in in metaphorical ways in um life,
Speaker 1: oftentimes the oe literal ways as well in the Hood,
Speaker 1: but then like in very little literal ways in the show. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then it's really funny because then he subsequently got
Speaker 1: made fun of for trying to be deep. But he's
Speaker 1: like right though, And it's part of a larger trend
Speaker 1: I have found of people thinking the show is about
Speaker 1: human nature and not a blatant critique capitalism, like oh,
Speaker 1: it's so fucked up. People have turned against each other
Speaker 1: when the chips are down human nature and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's capitalism talking, is it? So I wanted to with
Speaker 1: you because what triggers somebody to say human nature in
Speaker 1: that instance, that's that's capitalists. It couldn't. It could be
Speaker 1: that we're socialized into a capitalist system and so everything
Speaker 1: we know we assume that is it is, but that
Speaker 1: way by default. There could be no other option. But
Speaker 1: it could also be that maybe it is human nature
Speaker 1: that has given rise to capitalism. But we do all
Speaker 1: kinds of ship that isn't human nature, that we make
Speaker 1: choices to do because it's better for us. We fucking
Speaker 1: philip airplanes with fossil fuels and six hundred miles an
Speaker 1: hour across the world in six hours and land it's
Speaker 1: a totally different countries. Like that's not human nature, but
Speaker 1: we do it because it's good to do for a reason.
Speaker 1: And so I mean, I don't know, it's it's human
Speaker 1: nature inherently greedy or and that's why we have capitalism,
Speaker 1: or as capitalism make people greedy, and really our human
Speaker 1: nature is like more benevolent. Hey, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: just a stoner rapper guy. But there's a difference between
Speaker 1: human nature makes people greedy and human nature is responsible
Speaker 1: for these fucking complex like economic systems and ship like that,
Speaker 1: like not not yo, I don't think that's human nature.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's game, like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'd like to believe humans a lot more collaborative because
Speaker 1: we live without you know, a lot of these concepts
Speaker 1: money and clear household and shipped for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Human nature is vicious? Do you ask my question? Like,
Speaker 1: is human nature vicious? And that's why we have capital
Speaker 1: not necessarly why it's having but it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: get into is that why we have capitalism? But is
Speaker 1: human nature vicious? I don't know. I've only lived within
Speaker 1: the constraints of the society leven, which I think definitely
Speaker 1: accelerates that, uh, that tendency, even if it's not innate
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I think, I mean for my experiences,
Speaker 1: you know, I would say that I think that human nature,
Speaker 1: you know, does have a vicious viciousness to it. There
Speaker 1: is definitely like a dog eat dog sort of base
Speaker 1: to to like the you know, humans and their natural
Speaker 1: state and ship like that. But I don't know. It's like,
Speaker 1: I think, if you can acknowledge, I have a problem.
Speaker 1: I have a problem when people acknowledge their problems and
Speaker 1: don't change it. You know what I'm saying. I feel
Speaker 1: like if you are stute enough to be like, gee,
Speaker 1: the economic social situation that I'm in is causing people
Speaker 1: to do X y Z. Fuck it, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it anyway, you know what I mean. That doesn't That
Speaker 1: doesn't fly with me, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I think I think that's probably would be like a
Speaker 1: nitpick critique Meek Mills observation. But I think it's cool
Speaker 1: that you know, he's he's thinking that ship and making
Speaker 1: those observations. As far as like people coming down on
Speaker 1: him and ragging on him and making fun of him
Speaker 1: about trying to be deep. That goes with your brandings, sir,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't feel that if
Speaker 1: J Cole had made this observation that anybody would have
Speaker 1: said any of those things too. Not that J Cole
Speaker 1: is like some scholar professor or anything like that, but
Speaker 1: J Cole's brand is, Hey, I'm a nigga who might
Speaker 1: think about something like this from time to time. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean Meek Mills. I mean we know
Speaker 1: that what Meek Mills work and with like the prison
Speaker 1: system and shore like that, but let's keep it real.
Speaker 1: He didn't do that until he went to jail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know other other than that, like Meek Mills, brand
Speaker 1: is yo, I'm partying bubbly. I'm a tough guy. I'm cool.
Speaker 1: So like if he comes out and tries to make
Speaker 1: like a socio economic like uh uh commentary and then
Speaker 1: one that's like you know, based around the show and
Speaker 1: it's not. It's just like really like surface level. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I personally in in all fairness and being a
Speaker 1: public figure. Yeah, I I see white people who are
Speaker 1: joaning on him. I mean, uh, it comes back to
Speaker 1: you in part like what I've heard people be, like,
Speaker 1: you know, act like musicians just sucking make music like
Speaker 1: don't be I think it haven't even been Malcolm X
Speaker 1: who talked about like, oh, in no other field, for
Speaker 1: no other people, would you expect your fucking baseball players
Speaker 1: and you're you know, rappers or wherever to like be
Speaker 1: activists and have like informed opinions about things. It's only
Speaker 1: with black people because if you're rich and your black,
Speaker 1: oh well we're going to tokenize you and like make
Speaker 1: your opinion matter. Um, it all depends, It all depends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they pick and choose. Well, let's let's cap it off today.
Speaker 1: We got one song that we're gonna talk about. Oh word, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we are going to check out. Back when Mariah
Speaker 1: was on an eternity leave, I mentioned how much I
Speaker 1: really loved the album by this rapper Mac Commy called
Speaker 1: Pray for Haiti. If you guys haven't heard it, it
Speaker 1: is really, really, really dope. I highly recommend it. It
Speaker 1: is like if most deaf also cap Nicks. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard, it's smooth, it's smart, but it's ignorant.
Speaker 1: It's just dope. It's really dope. And I thought that
Speaker 1: the song Marie kind of kind of encapsulates what you're
Speaker 1: gonna expect the album. But Michael veil By, even when
Speaker 1: she rocked the veil Mommy, Before we get into it,
Speaker 1: I just want to take the first time to acknowledge
Speaker 1: this for all y'all. I know that was just five
Speaker 1: seconds of dopness for y'all. But that was two minutes
Speaker 1: of a masterpiece that we got to listen to. Mccomie
Speaker 1: is a Haitian American rapper. He's been rapping for a
Speaker 1: long ast time. This new album, Pray for Haiti, is
Speaker 1: actually his ninth album because up until, you know, a
Speaker 1: few years ago, he was like an underground. He hooked
Speaker 1: up with Griselda and now people have started catching onto
Speaker 1: the lyrics. But the whole album is filled with interludes
Speaker 1: of like news clippings about Haiti and Haiti situation. It
Speaker 1: doesn't really specifically tie into what the songs are about.
Speaker 1: But it's just like everything is so abstract. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's he's really dope. He's probably the closest
Speaker 1: thing to a pre internet rapper that we have right now.
Speaker 1: Like that it doesn't even show his face, Like, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: ain't got no bio, They ain't got no website, you
Speaker 1: ain't got no Twitter handle, yea, yea. All all anyone
Speaker 1: knows about this dude is that he's ill as hell
Speaker 1: on the mic, and I dig that. It's like the
Speaker 1: pieces of his personality you have to piece them together
Speaker 1: from listening to his music. That that ships fucking flat
Speaker 1: to me? What do you think of the song? Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's smooth as hell. Um, I just like, I meanily
Speaker 1: like just melted into the beat. Am I tripping? Like
Speaker 1: most stuff? A little? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? What do I
Speaker 1: want to that nick up to these days? Come get
Speaker 1: your boys, your pal, come get him, come get words.
Speaker 1: Where are you y'all seeing? Baby? The way that rap
Speaker 1: is going though, Man, I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: want to know all of those stuff. Thanks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to beat this point, I really don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many more people I thought are cool
Speaker 1: being on some wax shit. It's it's a circle of life.
Speaker 1: Wagnias just decline and fade and the new pretty cool
Speaker 1: people come up and it's like, oh, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't hear. I didn't know about Macony, like, and I
Speaker 1: learned today that he's dope and now you'll replace yeah
Speaker 1: in my heart. Yeah, this is the tycle goes On
Speaker 1: tyle goes On ship. You know what? This felt really good.
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even lying. It felt really
Speaker 1: good to get this off the child Like I feel
Speaker 1: a bit better thinking about this, like all week, and
Speaker 1: it's like I was like, damn, man, I really wish
Speaker 1: I had an outlet that I could express these thoughts
Speaker 1: about there's oh wait, yeah, anyway, I think we need
Speaker 1: to close it off. It's it's getting late, yeah, Joel,
Speaker 1: our homie Joe. You know it's funny whenever we keep
Speaker 1: we say Joel dropped a beat all the time. It's
Speaker 1: he ain't even making these beats, but he's really good
Speaker 1: at dropping him ships though, drop him ships son Chief
Speaker 1: and on the marvel of saving on my fist break
Speaker 1: welling all dark, cold black, like on Wednesday, I'm lost
Speaker 1: my marbles like I was in this quick game. I'm
Speaker 1: starting king heart broken, trauma, talma. Suddenly every time I'm
Speaker 1: reminded for for the color, don't as this, HOLLI gays
Speaker 1: are white and all the fellas otherwise, and we are
Speaker 1: blind to every other kind of type. Draw Rod the
Speaker 1: line between the groups to sip unite, saying about the
Speaker 1: straight blacks versus the white days and the transitten names
Speaker 1: or whatever the dry to say, it's all of us
Speaker 1: up against the system art to keep us fighting each
Speaker 1: other instead of working together. As dope Knife, I'm Lea
Speaker 1: Franca and you've been listening to Waiting on Reparations piece
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