WEBVTT - This Week with WOR

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Waiting on Reparation production Heart Radio, Yo, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>Knife bit dope as sisters saying in the membrane, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>just crabs in the barrel, planes Wig games Na swear

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<v Speaker 1>that the third with a big brain. But I tag

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<v Speaker 1>up the wall with a thick paint, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>Wrapper stand by facts. They went on Facebook now they

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<v Speaker 1>anti vacs a Wrapper. Guests slapped if you grab my mask,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dope. You can't even outrap my trash true, man,

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell me what to do. Man make mistakes because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only Hugh Man. Saw you with the cipher and

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<v Speaker 1>your crew ran. They all went right like Chappelle New fans, Yo, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? What's happening everybody? How you doing? I'm good?

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<v Speaker 1>And Franco oh, yes, I forgot about that. I'm dope,

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<v Speaker 1>knife a reparation. We are waiting on reparations and we

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<v Speaker 1>would like you too, Yeah please, yeah, what's good? Nothing yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I've been getting ready for this show that I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to do. We got this album. There's this record store,

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<v Speaker 1>slash record label and Savannah called grave Face and they're

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<v Speaker 1>having like a twelve year thing. So I'm slate at

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<v Speaker 1>to perform with a couple of other cool casts going

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<v Speaker 1>down on Saturday. But I'm really trying to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a real, real official with it. So I think have

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<v Speaker 1>been like rehearsing and ship. You know, that's great, get

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<v Speaker 1>my set down nice and tight for it. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's other than that's the same. Well, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. I'm good, I'm good. I don't rehearse anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any shows coming up. I don't only

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, you're doing, You're doing important things,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna get back on there, so no sooner

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<v Speaker 1>or later. I got showing Atlanta December might playing like

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<v Speaker 1>an Athens Pride and I know him by but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>things are good. Um. Today I fucking met this guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Rafael Warnock. Apparently he's the black senator from the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Georgia, and you know what, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very chill dude, very chill dude, UM, very laid back.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about like the fucking quote unquote labor shortage,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had like he was like pretty funny about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like labor shortage. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that first of all, Um, seven thousand of

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<v Speaker 1>those workers didn't come back because they died, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a lot a lot of the rest of us. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like get a job that pays you twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a month and then for childcare because you're no

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<v Speaker 1>longer at home to watch your children or do not

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<v Speaker 1>have a job. So a lot of people chose that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like pretty straight up about the whole you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is this quote unquot labor shortage happening? Um? Really

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's really it's a living way to job shortage.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why nikes ain't going back to work. John a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about that I heard, but yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like very just like funny and show. Oh. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>so like what was he there for? Just to meet people?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like, you know, he's thinking about re election

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<v Speaker 1>uhwo like tomorrow practically, and so he's like come into

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<v Speaker 1>touch base with the folks. Um and uh yeah, so asapasta,

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<v Speaker 1>how's everything looking in the district? House? House things looking

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<v Speaker 1>for him? For you out here? Man, it's bad. Not

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<v Speaker 1>Like as soon as I left the meeting, somebody called me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Hey, these people in your district just

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<v Speaker 1>got their house shot off last week. What we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do about it? And so we're meeting on Friday, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, oh, you want more constant patrol, which

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<v Speaker 1>is cool. I'm gonna email them, you know, police sergeant

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<v Speaker 1>guy for our area tomorrow. I let them know because

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what the people wh want, that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>people get. But we're also gonna be on Friday to

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<v Speaker 1>be like also and or instead, let's try this because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been like researching this program that they do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other cities called Cure Violence, where they just

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<v Speaker 1>like hired like gangstass niggas to like just go to

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<v Speaker 1>the gangs and be like, please don't shoot each other

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<v Speaker 1>and not like in a but like like nigga understand,

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<v Speaker 1>like why are you killing each other? But I fucking

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<v Speaker 1>get it, Like you don't, like you can do something

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<v Speaker 1>like you you can have a better life than this

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<v Speaker 1>and you can resolve your conflicts without this. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been working with a lot of places. I would hope

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<v Speaker 1>that happens like more often and outside of the context

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<v Speaker 1>of like a organization having to put it together. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like back in the day, like o Gez used

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<v Speaker 1>to do that a lot more just on general principle, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I can't have these young shooting each other,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm the O G I gotta like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't participate in that ship. I gotta like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. Yeah, a lot of people do it

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<v Speaker 1>in their spare time because they're just humanitarians. But like

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<v Speaker 1>they're walking six hours a week at the fucking plant

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they're you know, what if they could do

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<v Speaker 1>this as a career, like we're like their whole job

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<v Speaker 1>forty hours a week, fucking gang niggas don't shoot each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about half a feeling that would be. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there's definitely a lot of people qualified to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah. Yeah, So it's like a very in

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<v Speaker 1>my in my view, a very specialized skill set of

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<v Speaker 1>like knowing the streets, having been there yourself, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and learning these other like very empirically based like ways

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, volve in conflict and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>changing community norms around conflict and ship. But it's what

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<v Speaker 1>we've been doing this whole time. It's just that people

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<v Speaker 1>do it electively. The people just do it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the goodness of their hearts and then they got to

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<v Speaker 1>go work two jobs, three jobs in order to like

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<v Speaker 1>keep their kids out the streets to pay for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball program because the kids don't get caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in the ship. So I mean it's all part of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the cycle's like, yeah, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>so much of our own ship that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the like we can't focus on like these

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<v Speaker 1>giant backro problems that ship. Right, I work with this

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<v Speaker 1>cat named Darius. Shout out to Darius, um save the us.

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<v Speaker 1>We bought a bus this summer to take kids to

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<v Speaker 1>like programs and ship. And Darius has been in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like probably moved way back in the day. There

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<v Speaker 1>is might a shot someone. I don't know why Darius

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<v Speaker 1>d but when he brings the kids out to the

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<v Speaker 1>car wash where the people come get the car wash,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids make a little bit of money and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a healthy place with the kids to be after school.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids love that Darius wasn't jail once. The kids

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<v Speaker 1>like look up to him so much because he was

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. Ones and you look up to him because

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, y'all don't want to do that. Y'all don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be me Like, they ain't gonna listen to

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<v Speaker 1>a Nike that's never been there. They're not gonna listen

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody that don't really know, but they listen to

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<v Speaker 1>there is because there's has been to jail. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that fundamental model of like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have been there to know, and we should pay people

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<v Speaker 1>with that that skill set and that expertise to do

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<v Speaker 1>the work of disrupting the violence in the community. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>People getting shot around ship man, I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting shot around here too. Yeah. We ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>anohing on Savannah probably No. I mean, yo, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>some next level warfare ship going on, and this, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're like like, motherfucker's just coming across motherfuckers, this

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<v Speaker 1>coming from different states up in here. It's a start ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty bad. Um, But what do we got for

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<v Speaker 1>the show today? We're gonna be doing fresh back from

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<v Speaker 1>attorney to leave somewhat. Um. We there's so much has

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<v Speaker 1>been happening that we haven't got the chance to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in like a fresh way in terms of just

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<v Speaker 1>like keeping up with the ongoing happenings around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna have a news episode. We look at

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<v Speaker 1>the news, we go talk a little bit about the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about meek Mill, squid games, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of abortion ban or lack thereof, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court. You know, just a little bit of everything. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about some Dave Chappelle comedy special enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be back with that and more after the job.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. So what do we got first for

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<v Speaker 1>the people today? So, as you may know, the Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Department filed it's lawsuit against Texas last month for for

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<v Speaker 1>but they alleged with an unconstitutional ban on abortion at

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks UM no carve out conclusions for incests, rape

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<v Speaker 1>or sexual assault of any kind. For the dresser Department

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<v Speaker 1>argue that this Senate bill sent A Bill eight was

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<v Speaker 1>unconstitutional because it violated the supremacy clause as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the equal protection afforded under the Fourteenth Amendment. And it

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<v Speaker 1>also um they said, violated uh U s Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>President um. And then this week, in a one page ruling,

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<v Speaker 1>US disc Court Judge Robert Pittman said that from the

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<v Speaker 1>moment uh SPA went to effect women have been unlawfully

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<v Speaker 1>prevented from exercise and control over their lives and ways

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<v Speaker 1>that are protected by the Constitution. Um. I'm gonna jumping

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<v Speaker 1>into the article real quick to add a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of Now, this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those ones that happened when you were on your break

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<v Speaker 1>that like, I definitely want to get your thoughts off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's one of those sort of things that

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<v Speaker 1>was like I kind of already know what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but well you know about it. Here about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. What I want to hear what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about Yeah, I want to think about it is abortion

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<v Speaker 1>will always be saying some legal for rich women, rich people,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, um. And so really for me, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like this is like such a fundamentally working class issue. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it disproportionately and almost in a targeted way. UM

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<v Speaker 1>seeks to like oppress for women of color, poor people

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<v Speaker 1>of color, who can't travel, who can't jump on a

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<v Speaker 1>plane and go to California and get an abortion. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like not just like oh, you hate women like

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<v Speaker 1>you specifically hate poor people that seek abortions. UM, And

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<v Speaker 1>so looking at it, you know from actually like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>from like a class perspective, like it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a class struble issue. But interestingly UM as an aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading this book called Freedom Dreams. It's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like the black radical tradition throughout history, and like

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<v Speaker 1>talked about different people talked about how the black feminist

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<v Speaker 1>movement um as a in part because the influence of

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<v Speaker 1>the Nation of Islam, Like there's a lot of pushback

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<v Speaker 1>against like the white feminists call for, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>abortion on demand because it was seen as like a

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<v Speaker 1>form of population control in the black community. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>form of like genocide. I think you still hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those talking points repeated to day um, but

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<v Speaker 1>those are the people that are seeking to control maybe

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<v Speaker 1>keep his party there. Dont those you know, Black women

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<v Speaker 1>are the kinds of people you hear on Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't want to reproduce, like oh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be overtaken, Oh the great replacement theory, Like you can

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<v Speaker 1>say all day, Oh, it's population controls genocide. It was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's every single person's decision for themselves, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they you know, they they're they're trying to oppress

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<v Speaker 1>you about banning these things. This is not anything for

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<v Speaker 1>our benefit was whatever. I mean, this is all like

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<v Speaker 1>part of an ongoing Texas project that seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Republicans have been working on, which is just try

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<v Speaker 1>to establish like the Maga state, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like a state where pretty much all of those all

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<v Speaker 1>of those decrees that Trump kind of made on a whim,

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<v Speaker 1>things that couldn't really go through or it's just who

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<v Speaker 1>was talking on Twitter. It's like the Texas Republicans are

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<v Speaker 1>actually trying to govern the state like that and have

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<v Speaker 1>like all of these like extreme rights. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that this is the end of it. I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, assuming that nothing gets done about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're just going to keep trying to push like

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<v Speaker 1>the limits of of what type of different extreme things

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<v Speaker 1>that they can pass down there until they're not in power.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and they try it in Arkansas, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try it and like wherever they're starting at first

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas, I think they know they can get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this ship like cram through the pass, ye

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But I mean they're they're celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>like cops on horseback whippin people one day, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and then the next day they're like

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<v Speaker 1>passing through like extreme abortion meators. I wouldn't be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if they passed through some statewide stop and frisk stuff soon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's already on the books for all

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<v Speaker 1>that I know. Fuck. But thankfully, with regards to reproductive

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<v Speaker 1>freedom and justice, UM, a federal judge did block the

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement of texas is controversial new abortion law, UM, granting

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency requestioned the Justice Department. So we will see.

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<v Speaker 1>They will live to find another day. Unfortunately, UM, it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely going to be a block enforcement with a law

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<v Speaker 1>on a temporary basis basis, and you know, for now

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<v Speaker 1>it's unclear how long I'm gonna be an effect, So

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<v Speaker 1>we will see how long the battle goes on. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we know what other states are trying to pass? They definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Georgia State Legislature is not in session

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but already people like Butch Miller, who's also

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<v Speaker 1>running a belief for the attendant governor have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>declared that they will, like the gleefully can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>get get the fucking state legislature into session to start

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<v Speaker 1>crafting equally nefarious bills of their own. I'm not aware

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<v Speaker 1>of like what other states, like you know, fucking dashes

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<v Speaker 1>are plotting right now, but it's definitely happening. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Mississippi, Michigan, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that. As you said that, I heard it

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<v Speaker 1>in my head to like the Animaniacs tune of like

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty states in yeah, why do why do? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make me feel like I gotta say, for

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<v Speaker 1>some of you all out there, the Animaniacs was a

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon back Damn. Don't like that. Can't even give him

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<v Speaker 1>no door. The explo are some new ship. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit him with an Animaniac's reference Animaniacs, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>hit it. I would have given a tiny tumbs on

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<v Speaker 1>the ass. Fuck. Alright, So up next we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this is kind of a continuation of when

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<v Speaker 1>we each had about We talked a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook whistle blower coming forward to review serious harm

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<v Speaker 1>being perpetrated against young people who were using these platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly Instagram, um worsening or or inciting, you know, eating

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<v Speaker 1>disorders or suicidal audiation and page um girls, things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so those really interesting reading up on the testimony

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<v Speaker 1>on hearing that it seems to be at issue that's

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<v Speaker 1>uniting Republicans and Democrats. UH Senator Marsha Blackburn, Republicans and

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee accused Facebook of intentionally targeting children under d h

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<v Speaker 1>their tea with an addictive product, saying it's clear that

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook prior types of profit over the well being of

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<v Speaker 1>children and all users. And then she was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>echoed by UH subcommittee chair Richard Blumenthal, Democrat from Necticut,

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<v Speaker 1>UM say he was like, yeah, bet same, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna do? And so it's interesting that like we

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<v Speaker 1>found some common grounds, like everything hates Facebook. Maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we like we can all unite to take him down. Unlikely,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a that's like a two edged thing because

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<v Speaker 1>on on one hand, on one hand, I get what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, but I think that that united front is

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<v Speaker 1>like resting on you know, very unshaky foundation, because are

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<v Speaker 1>very shaky foundation, because like the reasons that we hate

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook are completely different, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we hate Facebook because it's causing harm to children and

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<v Speaker 1>and sewing division and spreading hate and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>disseminating this information. They hate Facebook because they banned Trump

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<v Speaker 1>after he tried to do a coup. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, stuff like they're not even It's like just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's this thing that I always feel about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, finding solidarity with the right wingers, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like if they have the same solutions as we do,

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<v Speaker 1>been cool and I like and likely event that the

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<v Speaker 1>solutions to similar problems are the same. But in most

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<v Speaker 1>cases when we do share the same problems, our solutions

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<v Speaker 1>and reasonings for it is like wildly different and ship

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<v Speaker 1>like that. The second thing is, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to hold up because I've already seen

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox News the whole whatever the Democrats and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the lips do, do the opposite. I've already seen that

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<v Speaker 1>ship taken hold. I've seen Laura Ingram, Well, why did

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<v Speaker 1>they hate Facebook all of a sudden? We Maybe Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>isn't doing anything wrong, I mean simply because the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>have an issue with it. So I mean, if that starts,

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<v Speaker 1>if that filters down to Trump and he gives the word,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Marsha Blackbird will change her to turn. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they should break it all up, to be honest, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not even yeah. I mean the fact that it went

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<v Speaker 1>down in the way that it was, like severely interrupted

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<v Speaker 1>communications for people who rely on it all over the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that it could have that level of influence,

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<v Speaker 1>like regardless of any sort of massive conglomerate, any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of mass corporation that has that sort of like vice

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<v Speaker 1>like grip on the public sphere like that. Then Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what a social media being Amazon funk all these niggas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wrong and it's it's the option, right, one might say, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I mean on just pure antitrust ground breaking up.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder on what point would Facebook have done something different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like how how bad would it have had

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<v Speaker 1>to be before they would have been like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an emergency, we have to We've got to change

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<v Speaker 1>course or something like that. Because it really makes you wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty bad like what it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the harm that they already are causing, that they

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<v Speaker 1>themselves did it internal you know, investigation and researching to

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<v Speaker 1>find out our company is actually causing these effects. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, guys don't pay attention to that let's just

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing what we're doing, business as usual. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get this bread. I mean, what if it was

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<v Speaker 1>really like, what if in their internal investigation it was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook can cause mass suicide? Like they probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>just said, nothing to see here, let's just how do

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<v Speaker 1>we cover it up? They would have sent it to

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<v Speaker 1>the comms department and media, like, hey, how do we

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<v Speaker 1>spend this? Like, well, the mass suicides send all a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people to have their nirvana, so they're not

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<v Speaker 1>suffering anymore. It's great, you know, Like, maybe I'm naive,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you had asked me ten years ago would

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook become the corporation from the Aliens movies? I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have guessed it. But that's where the funk we are

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Where the funk we are right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think that they're gonna do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you think any of that breaking up talk that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking isn't even a possibility? Here is? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>enough people genuinely care in order for any action to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken, because one side is really cut up in

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<v Speaker 1>a culture war market, Rubio putting forward bills to ban

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<v Speaker 1>wokeness and corporations or something like these people deeply, deeply

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<v Speaker 1>on serious and so I just like don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>they also think that the issue is so like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's weird because Facebook is like so ubiquitous

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<v Speaker 1>and yet the problem is so niche and that like

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<v Speaker 1>people don't think it affects their bottom line, their bread

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<v Speaker 1>and butter, the kitching table issues of just like what

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<v Speaker 1>impacts their wallet, their family will being you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>like infrastructure or child tax credits or you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>stuff of the every day. Uh, the issue of whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not an algorithm, which, first of all, what really

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<v Speaker 1>is an algorithm? I couldn't explain when an algorithm is

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<v Speaker 1>to you could the average voter. I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the impacts that it's having our childings about their health,

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<v Speaker 1>all these things are so I guess in a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of seal that I don't think people in Congress are

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<v Speaker 1>going to take it seriously because it's not gonna impact

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna like resonate with any vote. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. Yeah, like you're gonna read on Facebook one

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<v Speaker 1>day on your eighteenth hour of scrolling that Sunday that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh, we've been Facebook's algorithm that was directing

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<v Speaker 1>girls to content that's making them suicidal. Like and you're like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. You're gonna keep scrolling through Facebook. Ultimately, That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about that. So let's move on to

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<v Speaker 1>this next one. This is probably going to the hottest

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<v Speaker 1>button topic of the week or last few weeks, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess so. Famed comedian Dave Chappelle recently put out a

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<v Speaker 1>new special on Netflix called The Closer, and, as has

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<v Speaker 1>been the pattern with all of his other Netflix specials,

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<v Speaker 1>it has caused a uproar of controversy over his uh, homophobic,

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<v Speaker 1>transphobic lyrics or did I say lyrics been comedy? Bit Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested in hearing your take first before you

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<v Speaker 1>go into because you said you watched it recently, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I did. They watched on Sunday. I tried to cry

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<v Speaker 1>on my way to my friend's fucking birthday party because

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little mad. All right, Well, going into that,

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<v Speaker 1>before you get on what you're you know why it

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<v Speaker 1>caused you to have that reaction, Let's start back to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't remember back when he first started doing

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<v Speaker 1>these uh Netflix specials, because each one of them have

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<v Speaker 1>had a, you know, a controversy attached with it as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like on this particular show. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the last one didn't because that was the COVID one,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was mainly talking about like George Floyd COVID stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is your what have you been thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>de Chapel in this since he has made this comeback

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<v Speaker 1>where he's been doing the comedy specials and being in

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<v Speaker 1>the public eye more and stuff like that, what have

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<v Speaker 1>you been thinking about the controversy surrounding him leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to this? I mean, it's funny because I had seen

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<v Speaker 1>very I've recently seen like the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>of Netflix specialists of his, and well it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was creeping into an uncomfortable territory with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ issues. UM. Ultimately I still mostly laughed, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the balance of my experience of the special I might

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<v Speaker 1>have a moment of discomfort, but mostly I was happy,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly find really funny. Um, even in the parts they're problematic,

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<v Speaker 1>were um touch points for conversation around the problems and solves,

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<v Speaker 1>So not necessarily for nothing or these like somewhat sticky

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable issues being raised. Um, but in this one, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he was his ego had been so bruised

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<v Speaker 1>by the beating he had taken regarding that earlier content

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<v Speaker 1>that that agree to which he doubled down on it

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<v Speaker 1>took it into a territory. I was like, Oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not this isn't fun anymore. Like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>fun anymore. Man. He was weird. It was really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really weird. And I will say, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a person identifies as queer, um and hearing the way

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about the black community in contrast to the

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<v Speaker 1>gay community, as if there are two separate things and

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<v Speaker 1>there aren't people that fall into both categories. Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, I don't want to know burning of

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<v Speaker 1>his jokes, right thing, but he even talks about um, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with transgender people. I have

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<v Speaker 1>I have a problem with the white people, as if

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<v Speaker 1>all transgender people are white. Um. Like when it started

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that territory was like the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that took me out of it. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we exist, right, like, you know those people in the

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<v Speaker 1>black community who are trans, who are bisexual, who are gay, lesbian,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's always attacking um, transness as white and like

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<v Speaker 1>lgbt qt nous as white when I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>niked like we out here too. In fact, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Stonewall Marshas B. Johnson, you know, he threw the

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<v Speaker 1>shock glass heard around the world and started at the

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<v Speaker 1>Stonewall riots allegedly what was the fucking black transax worker,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was a woman of color and so to

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<v Speaker 1>just ignore were then that's like, that is the genesis

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<v Speaker 1>of everything we know Pride to me today, every Pride

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<v Speaker 1>celebration you know and they've ever seen and been to

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<v Speaker 1>heard about came from sucking Stonewall, which was led by

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<v Speaker 1>women of color, who were trans and who were queer,

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<v Speaker 1>and like just totally erase that whole history and be

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<v Speaker 1>like nope, you're either black and you're straight, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>why are you queer? Or you fucking or I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you die? Okay, I don't know was what took me

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<v Speaker 1>out of it initially? Okay, so then what so then

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<v Speaker 1>how did escalate from there? For you? Um? Without you

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 1>get too many spoilers. I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these things have become memes and so like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is public knowledge. If you haven't seen the special,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I'm team Turf, saying that he's on the

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<v Speaker 1>same team as like trans exclusionary radical feminists pretty much,

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>people who don't think trans people are there are are there,

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, their gender that they identify with, you know,

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>especially trans women not being women. Let me run down

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<v Speaker 1>some of these before before you continue, just to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is like she said, this isn't really spoiling

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<v Speaker 1>it because a lot of this stuff is already out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to run down some things that he said

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<v Speaker 1>in the special for anybody who's wondering, Um, this I

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<v Speaker 1>guess will kind of be spoiler quotes. Um he said, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>any of you who have ever watched me know that

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had a problem with transgender people. If you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to what I'm saying, clearly, my problem has always

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>been with white people. That's going to your point about

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>not acknowledging that there are definitely a lot of black

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>transgender people, my dude, and histhanic and yeah, like an

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>indigenous like to say like, oh I hate oh my problems.

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You know all these trans white trans people and those

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>are the only trans people exist and defending what's her

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<v Speaker 1>name of the Harry Potter, Lady J k Rowland, Sorry, yeah,

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>he was supporting her um talking about it, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>herself has been caught in some controversies, some anti trans controversy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said, I'm team turf Uh. At the end

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>of the comedy special, he says, all I ask of

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<v Speaker 1>your community, with all humility, will you please stop punching

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>down on my people? And that's probably the part of

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the ship that really rubbed me wrong because I felt

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.959
<v Speaker 1>that's just like the accumination of everything that you just

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>said in terms of like the whole thing felt like

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it had this eerie vibe of I mean, if I

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 1>were just to oversimplify it, it felt like the mission

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>statement of the special was like the gay community and

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the black community or at odds because Kevin Harten the

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>baby Lost Gigs. It doesn't that sound dumb like it

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>just it just had this weird like you know, It's like,

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>if the point of it is not to put black

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>people against gay people, then what was the point? You

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Because it wasn't you touched on

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my big other problem with it. It's putting these marginalized

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 1>communities against each other, as if it's a it's like

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a race, like, oh, we gotta get like one

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>of us is going to make it to the top,

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the others we gotta step on their heads to get there,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>which is I think I think speaks to the nature

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of the jokes stepping on the heads of another mortalized

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>group in order to yourself ascend, when it's like, no,

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm in. All of our liberations are tied together, like

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>black people a free, or straight black people a free

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>until queer black people are free, until queer white people

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>are free, until you know, Mexican trans people are free.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Like we all gotta fight together against the people who

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>are really killed causing us all the problems, which just

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking you know, Jeff suffer. Jeff Zuckerberg one of those stitches.

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>So here's my here's my overall problem with the stave

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of Chappelle Special. Right, it's not even you know, it's

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>like taking myself out of it. I have way more

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>there's way more of an issue with the aftermath of

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the situation than the special itself. To me, in the

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>time that the Special has come out, like all of

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the worst human beings in the world have come from

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>under the rocks and holes that they hide him to

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like give praise to Dave Chappelle. Dachapelle's got it right.

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the good ones. He knows what it is.

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Telling these well, that's PC culture. If there's literally there's

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>not literal goose stepping Nazis are online like talking about

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like yo, man, that was yeah. Dave Chappelle, he like

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>gets like there's people, there's people who I should you

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>not who Just last week we're praising, Oh, look at

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the cops beating those Haitians with the whips on horseback.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>We need more of that in the streets. We need

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it out like those same exact people are

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about like, oh, man, Dave Chappelle is awesome. Dave

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Chapelle is awesome. Now, I don't want to like man

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>shin too many of them, you know what I'm saying,

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>because like I don't want to like give shine to

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>any whack ship. But for me, it's just weird that

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Dave Chappelle is not saying anything like Nazism like I mean,

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and and when I say Nazis, I mean I'm talking

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like some of them figuratively and some quite literally. You

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, there's one cat. Again, I'm trying

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>not to mention it, but there's one cat who who

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>made a video of him and his friends, like with

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>one of his friends putting his knee on the back

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of his neck to like make a demonstration of Oh,

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd wasn't really in any danger. He died from

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Fete Mille. In this dude is talking about man Dave

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Chappelle's awesome day Chapelle's office. Now, the thing is, if

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about like some internet trolls or like

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>people with egg avatars and ship like that, no, I mean,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's no reason for Dave Chappelle to feel any

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of like responsibility to like acknowledge that or engaged

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>with those people. Whatever. The motherfucker's that I'm talking about

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>get more likes, views, and retweets than most of the

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>rappers of de Chappell be hanging out with, you know

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So these are people with platforms and

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>voices who just yesterday we're saying black people deserve to

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>be whipped on horseback, and now today here Dave Chappelle

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>said something about trans people. Yeah, do it so effectively

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>whether he knows it or not, Like not like a

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of this ship isn't dependent on people being active

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>participants or not. Whether de Chappelle realizes it or not,

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>he's effectively serving the same purpose as Candice Owens is

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in this instance straight out you gotta have some real

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>ship of self reflection to look around you and be like,

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>is that Ben Shapiro? Oh wait, is that bitch watters class?

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Or you like what I said? Oh no, I mean

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>what did that? Do you that moment? That moment I

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about the Joe Rogan ship, Right, But like motherfucker's

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>can say whatever, Like you can say whatever you want

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to say about Joe Rogan. You can say people criticize

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>them unfairly or blah blah, blah blah. One thing that

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>is a fact is that, for like two years of

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the Joe Rogan Show, the main topic of discussion that

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to talk about with every white guest was man,

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, black people are just born with low i q,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and everyone says we're racist when we talk about it.

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>How come we can't talk about these things? How black

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>people are genetically inferior and born with low i Q. Like,

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>my whole thing is whether Joe Rogan has an explanation

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>for why that was like something he wanted to talk about.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I just always as like a fan. Just imagine, damn

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>if Their Chappelle was sitting across the table from somebody

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>who was doing that, he would probably check Start and

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Day Chappelle has been on the show like twice since

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan has been on that. Ship and Day Chappelle

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't say ship about that. They're smoked hey, but but yeah,

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, like when you see it back

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>then and it alarms you when you see it like

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>two years ago or not even two years ago. I

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>think the last Day Chappelle Joe Rogan interview was like

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe like five or six months ago. When you see it,

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like, damn, that's weird. Like Joe Rogan was definitely

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>going off all all pandemic about like you know, like

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>protesters should stop in black lives matters out of hand,

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and terrorists and the cops we gotta trust the cops,

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and ship like really, like dude, she probably got shipped

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to say about that like at all. So now ship

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like this puts it in a different sort of context

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>for a cat like me. And again I'm not I

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>don't I'm not talking about the special. I'm talking about

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of this ship. It's super weird. He had

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>he had a public event where at the end of

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>it he was like, Hey, if this is what getting

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:09.919
<v Speaker 1>canceled looks like, then I love it. Fox, fuck ms NBC, funck,

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>ABC A tall freak. There was a huge admission to that.

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I have no choice but to think it was deliberate

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>unless I thought Dave Chappelle was stupid. But I don't

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 1>think they've Chappelle is stupid, So I think that's a

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>deliberate thing. He deliberately left Fox News out of that

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>because he has a fan base. Now he's getting that paper,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's the fan base that he's got. You know

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>when I say fan base, now, I mean there's a

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>whole new crop of fans. If you're out there and

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you're a dear Chapelle fan, you've been a Dear Chappelle

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>fan since the Chappelle shell. Oh you got You've got

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>some new brothers and sisters and arms on your team.

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of them were storming the Capitol a

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of months ago. You know what I'm saying. You

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. I re

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>watch The Chapelle Show recently, and other than the nostalgia value,

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it really wasn't that funny there I said it. I

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I could wrap with you on that. Hey,

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I stand with me, stand with the fucking the new fans.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Tell you what you want. I mean, you like the

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>company you KEI you like the company you key. But yeah,

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean just at the bottom line, you know, the

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>ship was that was just whack. That's wha. I've watched

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>it for you and we didn't like it, So don't

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>do it. Don't give him the clicks I mean for you.

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not again, I'm not gonna tell anybody to not

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>watch anything like like if you all I'm saying is

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought the ship was whack. I'm a queer folks

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and l lgbt Q. Everybody don't watch it. I was

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>very upset. I thought I'd be like, oh, an interesting,

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.720
<v Speaker 1>just intellectual exercise to see how I feel. Just to pause,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you know the meaning of the jokes. No, I know.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I did not enjoy it. I mean, okay, in fairness,

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he did bring up some interesting things which I won't

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>get into in case anyone's gonna watch it. It doesn't

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>wantny spoilers. There's someone that's very insightful, but not in

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>relation to anything translated everything. How much of the special

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>would you say the trans stuff took up? It was

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of it. I was like, Bro, you

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 1>made your boy fucking stop Jesus. So let's talk on

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and on. Man, let's let's go on a little bit

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>more about this. So since the whole thing with that happened, um,

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you've had let me go to Okay, So since that

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 1>all happened, you've had you know, a lot of people

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>have spoken out against it. Glad has spoken out. UM.

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Trans woman who actually works for Netflix put out a

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>tweet that read, yesterday we launched another Chappelle special where

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he attacks the trans community and the very validity of transnis,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>all while trying to pit us against other marginalized groups.

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>You're going to hear a lot of talk about offense.

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>We are not offended. And she was later suspended from Netflix.

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Now they they say it was for trying to get

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>into a meeting that she wasn't invited to. But um,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it came shortly after that thread of tweets went viral. Um.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Other comedians and celebrities have come out in praise of

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Dave Chappelle, including this one interesting one that I wanted

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to run by you Varry, because like, if this is

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>where things are going, holy shit, do I have some thoughts.

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>So comedian Damon Wayne's offered his praise Dave Chappelle, and

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>he said, quote, I feel like Dave freed the slaves. Yeah,

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the comedians. We were slaves to PC culture. And he

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>just you know, as an artist, he's Van Gogh. He

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>cut his ear off. He's trying to tell us it's okay,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I've always been free. But um, I just think he's saying,

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, all that I have, I'm not afraid

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to lose it for the sake of creative freeness of speech.

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't edit yourself. Comedians who were like Mercedes makes

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>great cars, but you gotta crash a lot before they're perfect. Yeah. Cool.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>So white people's, particularly who work in electoral politics, are

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>so confused and blinded to the amount of conservatism in

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the black community. Yeah, like that's straight up, where are

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>we talking points? I've I've said this before on this show.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>If Republicans literally just narrowed down their focus too, we

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>hate gay people and poor people. They would have like

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of the black vote really happened to hate black people

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>doing Yeah, they can't control they can't control the hatred

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that end like trying not to say it, but yeah, no,

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's definitely a right wing talking point. And it's

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, I mean, it doesn't he's trying to tell

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>us it's okay to do what to do what they

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>could Like you're damon Wayne, David. Wayne's has been richer

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>longer than he was a regular human being. Yeah, stop,

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that even I think that might even apply

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for Dave Chappelle too. I think that Chappelle has been

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>richer longer than rich and famous longer than you was

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a regular person. So like I mean, at this point,

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, here in this ship, like these niggas ain't

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>really living like on Earth and ship. I don't know

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what the fund is going on, but I know that

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>if if if people are gonna start, let me put

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>on like my African let me put on my African

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>costume right now so I can so I can talk

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 1>about this and address this with a certain level of detachment,

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean addressed, Like if African Americans

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>are gonna start hopping on this bandwagon of like PC

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>culture and oh I hate the Wokens and blah blah

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Yo. You you, you have to be

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>prepared to keep the energy up and to match the energy,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna come around the next time some country

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.959
<v Speaker 1>singer says some ship that you don't like, the next

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>time some NASCAR driver or NFL quarterback is on camera

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>saying some ship. Shut the funk up, shut up, shut

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>all the way up. There's this picture that went viral,

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's of this Closer Comedy special. Right. It's a

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>picture of Dave Chappelle, I think, kind of from behind him,

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and he's on stage and there's like the room is full,

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's like cackling, laughing their ass off, and there's

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>these two I want to say women, but just in

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>all fairness, they then I don't know, but these two

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>people in the audience obviously looking uncomfortable in distress. That picture,

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>this ship went viral. Everybody was looking at it, laughing,

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>ha ha ha. Why don't you just stay home? Look

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>at these two people? Don't like the show? These It

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.879
<v Speaker 1>was going around Like what I'm saying is keep that energy,

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because if that was Larry the Cable Guy going in

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 1>on a forty minute bit about how black people aren't

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>good fathers and they eat watermelon and fried chicken in

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a room full of white people's cackling and laughing, and

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>there's two lone black people sitting there looking uncomfortable, and

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that picture is going viral with people laughing at there

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>be a fucking Black Lives Matter march from here to

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>fucking San Francisco and then maybe a lot of gay

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>people in that march marching Wicks like, yeah, we get

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it exactly when he was like, oh, I'm team Turf.

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>That's like so it's like sucking Lady the Cable Guy

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, I'm in the Ku Klux Klan. It's

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like no way anyone that would ever be allowed, and

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be because that's fucking scary because that they

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>were killing niggas as recently as recently, as recently, they

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>still probably killing it. Does I think we need to?

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we need to. Let's just make my blood boy,

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna need to take a break and get into

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the music discussion. But I mean, you know, before we

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>do it, though, I was just like can't nobody confuse

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>me for anything even remotely woke. You know what I'm saying, Like,

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that's just I'm not saying that as like a virtue,

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not denigrating anything. It's just not who I am.

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just you know what I'm saying, It's just like,

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not the social circle that I like Roman and

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that Roman this is. But like, you don't have to

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>be woke to recognize when ship is whack, yo, and

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to just critique it the way that I would critique

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>some rap shit. The production might have been dope, the

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 1>delivery might have been on point, but when I think

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.959
<v Speaker 1>of a content, nah, I don't funk with this, man,

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't. Yeah, I got way more problems than blue

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>haired fourteen year olds on Twitter saying bad stuff about comedians.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Get the funk out of here, man, Nah, that's just whack.

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And if if if a community is telling you that

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>something is hurting them and you keep doing it anyway,

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't care about them. And he can say all

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>day long that he is a feminist, that you know

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 1>he cares about transfolks, but that is simply true. You don't.

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 1>You don't cont to do something if it's hurting because

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody period and niggas like me where I'm from. When

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Neo Nazis is liking this ship that you do, usually

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you like reassess the ship did you do it? And

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh wait, let me you think about that

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit, just one second. Anyway, we gotta pay some bills.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with the music discussion, y'all. Alright, so

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>we are back with the music discussion. It's it's an

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>odd one. We're not really talking about songs. Were just

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about We're talking about a musician. Yes, okay, So

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know which one to go at first

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>because these are just like musing thoughts. But which one

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 1>do you want? Do you want to talk about? Meek? Okay? Yeah?

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So um, speaking of also trying to give any spoilers, Um,

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I watched the game last week. I don't know if

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you've seen any haven't seen yet. I haven't seen it.

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>It's got Somebody tells me it's like the perfect blend

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of Battle Royale and Hunger Games. That's how it's been

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>described to me. Oh, you froze for a second, but

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the audio probably still got captured a blend

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>of Battle Royale and why in Hunger Games, Yeah, pretty much.

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's got its own special twist on

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>the general theme, particularly in making it a little more

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 1>of an incisive critique on capitalism and the like. It's

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.720
<v Speaker 1>very plain to see. Like, it's very very plain to see.

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And me in a tweet called us Out, he said,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 1>in Squid Games, pay attention to have as people switch

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and kill each other to survive. Nothing about quote unquote

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>hood property. It's the same exact same thing. If you

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.919
<v Speaker 1>just help them with work money, they won't be that way.

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just a common sense message. So he's like calling

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>out like the underlying drive to accumulate capital to you know,

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>stay alive, to future family, whatever you gotta do. Uh,

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>spurring people to be blood the sea as hell, killing

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>each other like in in metaphorical ways in um life,

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes the oe literal ways as well in the Hood,

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but then like in very little literal ways in the show. Uh.

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 1>And then it's really funny because then he subsequently got

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>made fun of for trying to be deep. But he's

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like right though, And it's part of a larger trend

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I have found of people thinking the show is about

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>human nature and not a blatant critique capitalism, like oh,

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>it's so fucked up. People have turned against each other

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 1>when the chips are down human nature and it's like, well,

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that's capitalism talking, is it? So I wanted to with

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you because what triggers somebody to say human nature in

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that instance, that's that's capitalists. It couldn't. It could be

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that we're socialized into a capitalist system and so everything

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 1>we know we assume that is it is, but that

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>way by default. There could be no other option. But

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it could also be that maybe it is human nature

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that has given rise to capitalism. But we do all

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>kinds of ship that isn't human nature, that we make

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>choices to do because it's better for us. We fucking

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>philip airplanes with fossil fuels and six hundred miles an

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>hour across the world in six hours and land it's

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a totally different countries. Like that's not human nature, but

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we do it because it's good to do for a reason.

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean, I don't know, it's it's human

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 1>nature inherently greedy or and that's why we have capitalism,

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:22.919
<v Speaker 1>or as capitalism make people greedy, and really our human

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>nature is like more benevolent. Hey, I don't know. I'm

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>just a stoner rapper guy. But there's a difference between

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>human nature makes people greedy and human nature is responsible

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 1>for these fucking complex like economic systems and ship like that,

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like not not yo, I don't think that's human nature.

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's game, like you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to believe humans a lot more collaborative because

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>we live without you know, a lot of these concepts

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>money and clear household and shipped for a very long time.

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Human nature is vicious? Do you ask my question? Like,

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is human nature vicious? And that's why we have capital

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 1>not necessarly why it's having but it doesn't have to

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>get into is that why we have capitalism? But is

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>human nature vicious? I don't know. I've only lived within

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the constraints of the society leven, which I think definitely

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:28.280
<v Speaker 1>accelerates that, uh, that tendency, even if it's not innate

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I think, I mean for my experiences,

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would say that I think that human nature,

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, does have a vicious viciousness to it. There

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 1>is definitely like a dog eat dog sort of base

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to to like the you know, humans and their natural

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 1>state and ship like that. But I don't know. It's like,

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, if you can acknowledge, I have a problem.

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I have a problem when people acknowledge their problems and

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.720
<v Speaker 1>don't change it. You know what I'm saying. I feel

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.959
<v Speaker 1>like if you are stute enough to be like, gee,

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the economic social situation that I'm in is causing people

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to do X y Z. Fuck it, I'm gonna do

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it anyway, you know what I mean. That doesn't That

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't fly with me, you know what I mean. So

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that's probably would be like a

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>nitpick critique Meek Mills observation. But I think it's cool

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know, he's he's thinking that ship and making

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>those observations. As far as like people coming down on

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:30.839
<v Speaker 1>him and ragging on him and making fun of him

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>about trying to be deep. That goes with your brandings, sir,

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I don't feel that if

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>J Cole had made this observation that anybody would have

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 1>said any of those things too. Not that J Cole

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 1>is like some scholar professor or anything like that, but

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>J Cole's brand is, Hey, I'm a nigga who might

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>think about something like this from time to time. You

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean Meek Mills. I mean we know

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that what Meek Mills work and with like the prison

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>system and shore like that, but let's keep it real.

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 1>He didn't do that until he went to jail. Yeah,

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you know other other than that, like Meek Mills, brand

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is yo, I'm partying bubbly. I'm a tough guy. I'm cool.

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:09.799
<v Speaker 1>So like if he comes out and tries to make

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:15.439
<v Speaker 1>like a socio economic like uh uh commentary and then

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>one that's like you know, based around the show and

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's just like really like surface level. Yeah.

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I I personally in in all fairness and being a

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>public figure. Yeah, I I see white people who are

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 1>joaning on him. I mean, uh, it comes back to

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you in part like what I've heard people be, like,

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, act like musicians just sucking make music like

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>don't be I think it haven't even been Malcolm X

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>who talked about like, oh, in no other field, for

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>no other people, would you expect your fucking baseball players

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're you know, rappers or wherever to like be

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 1>activists and have like informed opinions about things. It's only

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 1>with black people because if you're rich and your black,

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>oh well we're going to tokenize you and like make

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 1>your opinion matter. Um, it all depends, It all depends. Yeah,

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they pick and choose. Well, let's let's cap it off today.

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>We got one song that we're gonna talk about. Oh word, Yeah,

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 1>so we are going to check out. Back when Mariah

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>was on an eternity leave, I mentioned how much I

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>really loved the album by this rapper Mac Commy called

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Pray for Haiti. If you guys haven't heard it, it

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>is really, really, really dope. I highly recommend it. It

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is like if most deaf also cap Nicks. It's just

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's hard, it's smooth, it's smart, but it's ignorant.

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just dope. It's really dope. And I thought that

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the song Marie kind of kind of encapsulates what you're

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna expect the album. But Michael veil By, even when

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 1>she rocked the veil Mommy, Before we get into it,

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I just want to take the first time to acknowledge

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>this for all y'all. I know that was just five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds of dopness for y'all. But that was two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of a masterpiece that we got to listen to. Mccomie

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<v Speaker 1>is a Haitian American rapper. He's been rapping for a

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<v Speaker 1>long ast time. This new album, Pray for Haiti, is

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<v Speaker 1>actually his ninth album because up until, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, he was like an underground. He hooked

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<v Speaker 1>up with Griselda and now people have started catching onto

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<v Speaker 1>the lyrics. But the whole album is filled with interludes

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<v Speaker 1>of like news clippings about Haiti and Haiti situation. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really specifically tie into what the songs are about.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just like everything is so abstract. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's he's really dope. He's probably the closest

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<v Speaker 1>thing to a pre internet rapper that we have right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that it doesn't even show his face, Like, motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got no bio, They ain't got no website, you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got no Twitter handle, yea, yea. All all anyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows about this dude is that he's ill as hell

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<v Speaker 1>on the mic, and I dig that. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of his personality you have to piece them together

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<v Speaker 1>from listening to his music. That that ships fucking flat

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<v Speaker 1>to me? What do you think of the song? Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's smooth as hell. Um, I just like, I meanily

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<v Speaker 1>like just melted into the beat. Am I tripping? Like

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<v Speaker 1>most stuff? A little? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? What do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to that nick up to these days? Come get

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<v Speaker 1>your boys, your pal, come get him, come get words.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you y'all seeing? Baby? The way that rap

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<v Speaker 1>is going though, Man, I don't even know if I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know all of those stuff. Thanks. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to beat this point, I really don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how many more people I thought are cool

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<v Speaker 1>being on some wax shit. It's it's a circle of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Wagnias just decline and fade and the new pretty cool

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<v Speaker 1>people come up and it's like, oh, I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear. I didn't know about Macony, like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>learned today that he's dope and now you'll replace yeah

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart. Yeah, this is the tycle goes On

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<v Speaker 1>tyle goes On ship. You know what? This felt really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even I'm not even lying. It felt really

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<v Speaker 1>good to get this off the child Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>a bit better thinking about this, like all week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I was like, damn, man, I really wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had an outlet that I could express these thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about there's oh wait, yeah, anyway, I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to close it off. It's it's getting late, yeah, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>our homie Joe. You know it's funny whenever we keep

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<v Speaker 1>we say Joel dropped a beat all the time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't even making these beats, but he's really good

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<v Speaker 1>at dropping him ships though, drop him ships son Chief

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<v Speaker 1>and on the marvel of saving on my fist break

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<v Speaker 1>welling all dark, cold black, like on Wednesday, I'm lost

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<v Speaker 1>my marbles like I was in this quick game. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting king heart broken, trauma, talma. Suddenly every time I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reminded for for the color, don't as this, HOLLI gays

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<v Speaker 1>are white and all the fellas otherwise, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>blind to every other kind of type. Draw Rod the

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<v Speaker 1>line between the groups to sip unite, saying about the

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<v Speaker 1>straight blacks versus the white days and the transitten names

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the dry to say, it's all of us

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<v Speaker 1>up against the system art to keep us fighting each

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<v Speaker 1>other instead of working together. As dope Knife, I'm Lea

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<v Speaker 1>Franca and you've been listening to Waiting on Reparations piece

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