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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here of the drive

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Speaker 2: as we roll along we drive into the off season. Here.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get to some of your tweets

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour before we get up

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Speaker 2: out of here. But it is cut candidate conversation time here, Matt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you sent me kind of a great breakdown. I

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Speaker 2: think people know some of the websites and some of

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Speaker 2: the wells that we go to, you know, Draft History

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Speaker 2: and Over the Cap and the people that we like

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Speaker 2: and the different websites and things like that.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of great CAP experts out there

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Speaker 3: that I trust in the media. But Jason from Over

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Speaker 3: the Cap is of the forefront of Yes.

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Speaker 2: There's like spot track is a good kind of just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not pretty. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to write you an article about guys about.

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Speaker 2: Who's most likely to cut or anything. That's just like

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Speaker 2: if you want to figure out the Kyler Murray parameters

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Speaker 2: of his contract, that's a great place to go, but

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Speaker 2: not as is detailed.

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Speaker 3: On like if on Twitter, I want to know what

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Speaker 3: would the cap ramifications be for the Steelers trading for

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, I would tag Jason at over the cap

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Speaker 3: and he'd get.

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Speaker 2: Back, yes, exactly right. So uh. He put together an

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Speaker 2: article over the cap dot Com on the top possible

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Speaker 2: cut candidates in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: This is super nerdy or off season. I urge you

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Speaker 3: guys to check it out because there's like one hundred

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Speaker 3: names on here.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know one hundred percent understand the parameters

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Speaker 3: here too, because I think there's more names out there

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Speaker 3: than we'll get to. But some of them are based

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Speaker 3: on some of his formulas, and you know, the ones

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Speaker 3: that he would strongly consider. I didn't one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: to understand the paragraph leading in.

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Speaker 2: I trust them, Okay, I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. As always, it is stressed that most players on

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Speaker 2: this list will likely not be cut. There are many

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Speaker 2: mitigating factors as to why someone would show up on

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Speaker 2: this list, and with that, this list is built from

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Speaker 2: players who are due a minimum of four million dollars

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Speaker 3: See that that's kind of where it got a little

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Speaker 3: foggy for me, Like he put parameters on.

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Speaker 2: Have a negative contract rate greater than fifty percent basically

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Speaker 2: meaning their valuation of what they're being paid now versus

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Speaker 2: what they would make on the open market.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, And.

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Speaker 2: Is that fifty percent greater? Is that fifty percent less?

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Speaker 2: These are the fifty percent less guys.

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Speaker 3: So I assume, like, if you're making five million right

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Speaker 2: Candidate exactly, right, Like number one on this list is

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Speaker 2: the Shan Watson because by their calculations, Deshaun Watson is

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Speaker 2: underperforming at nearly a twenty four million dollars at million

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Speaker 3: Pace, which might be kind, which might be kind, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's never even on the field and bad

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Speaker 2: And they're finally at the point listen, moving on from

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson would obviously have some ramifications for Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: But they're dead money and all that stuff. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: They're now into the last year of his contracts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Shawn Watson at the end of the tunnel final

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Speaker 2: Penalties in that are still severe, but not nearly the

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Speaker 2: next three years the ramifications of what they would have

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Speaker 2: not surprisingly, Matt is number one on this list. I

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Speaker 3: Dollars and no incentive to do anything to you know,

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Speaker 3: So super quick you kind of touched on it. Not

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Speaker 3: and I've said it before, but when pick anyone off

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Speaker 3: you know, Like Slay was cut, he was not expired contract.

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Speaker 2: Aron Rodgers was cut.

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Speaker 3: He was cut right right, So it didn't hurt your

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Speaker 2: And that's where.

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Speaker 2: Especially with Omar at the Helm. That's why when Dan

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Speaker 2: Moore Junior walks and signs a big contract, you get

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Speaker 3: Cost the Titans anything. I mean, they're not giving you

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Speaker 2: It works against their formula of potentially earning one on

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But if Dan Moore Junior had another year left

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Speaker 3: Then he's just he doesn't have affect it at all,

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Speaker 2: Yes, So Deshaun Watson obvious one interesting one to see

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Speaker 3: But nobody's gonna pick him up.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, I would be. I would be shocked

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Speaker 2: if Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 3: Does he take another snap in his life?

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Speaker 2: My question was going to be, does he take another

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Speaker 3: Arizona or a team like that be like, we'll bring

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Speaker 2: You know, wouldn't wouldn't everybody always needs quarterback help.

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Speaker 3: I mean like people brought Tebow to camp two years

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Speaker 2: Yes, sure, yes, absolutely other quarterbacks listed or not nearly

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Speaker 3: I think that one's kind of unlikely, so Lack mentioned

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Speaker 2: Too, just because they have so much cap space.

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Speaker 3: And right now he's probably still their best option. He's

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Speaker 2: And that's my thing too. If you're the Jets, like,

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Speaker 2: I am not sitting here banging the table for Justin Fields,

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Speaker 3: You're not going to super Bowl with or without him, No,

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Speaker 3: he's perfect to kind of tank and build your I mean,

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Speaker 2: It picked two, I'd be like, still keep Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: Other quarterbacks listed much smaller, all just because they're kind

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Speaker 3: And if they get cut, they'll hang around for a

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Speaker 3: those guys will be in the league. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're.

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Speaker 3: So maybe that could be maybe, but.

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Speaker 2: You're right, those guys will all be in the league.

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Speaker 2: That is just purely a why would we pay six

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Speaker 3: I can get that. I'd rather take a roll the

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Speaker 3: Just did it a better rate? Just the better signed

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Speaker 2: Dorance Armstrong Junior from the Commanders is in that same conversation.

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Speaker 2: He's a fine player, but not one that you want

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Speaker 2: to pay eleven million dollars.

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Speaker 3: To this year, right, Like he will not be back

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. Sean Murphy, bunting corner from the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: is due seven point five million this year. Will Disley,

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Speaker 2: the tight end from the Chargers, is on this list.

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Speaker 2: And then a big name one that is not surprising

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Speaker 2: Matt who's on this list too is Tyreek Hill of

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Speaker 3: And I think he's a definite. Like they have like

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Speaker 3: need some dead money. I don't know what all the

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Speaker 2: They might take a massive step back. The Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: All these guys screamed one year deals because their stock's low.

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Speaker 2: What about Marshawn Lattimore of the Commanders. Turns really bad

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Speaker 3: I mean Steeler fans should be aware of this now.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's like a two percent hit rate.

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Speaker 2: Usually pretty telling. Let's see here before we go to

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Speaker 3: Many names on there? I was like, oh, that'd be

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Speaker 3: If Gamewell left, you could convince me Connor comes home

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Speaker 2: But that'd be a fun fun ste.

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Speaker 2: That could be that may be a fun.

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Speaker 3: That could be a fun He was good lastly, So

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Speaker 2: Not always if you have him in the right role. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They just have a lot of cap issues. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, that's not their style though they usually re

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Speaker 2: Or I just feel like he's one money down. He's

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Speaker 3: I bet he doesn't become available.

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Speaker 2: I just yeah. They have Grant Delpit on this list too.

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Speaker 2: That just seems like a lot of a lot of change.

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Speaker 2: And hey, I guess I.

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Speaker 3: Think their defense are going to try to run back.

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if he gets cut to, but he'd

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Speaker 3: good mileage out of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we're Seuan Gary's on this list, two of

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Speaker 3: He signed a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Sign a big deal. He's twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 3: And when they signed it, they didn't plan on trading

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Speaker 2: That's how Davante Adams on this list.

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Speaker 3: I can't see the Rams let him go.

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Speaker 2: I can't either. He's thirty four and do a lot

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Speaker 2: Stafford's coming back, and they were a Final four team, and.

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Speaker 3: One's like that scream stays with the team he wants

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Speaker 2: Every time I think I'm ready to wrap this up,

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Speaker 2: I find more.

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Speaker 3: Interesting and I want to.

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Speaker 2: Run by you. DeAndre Swift's on here.

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Speaker 3: He's not bad. He was a lot better the Bears

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Speaker 2: And then Matt, okay, just a few more here before

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Speaker 3: Yes and yes, but I can't out of room for

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not if Ramsey's still in the.

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Speaker 3: Full unless Ramsey you're a full time slot.

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Speaker 2: But that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those guys would still be decent cap Hits.

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Speaker 2: Or Mika Zaven Collins and really liked him coming out

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Speaker 2: Speaking of linebackers that aren't who I thought they were

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Speaker 3: I love him, And he said that's the thing is

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Speaker 2: He's been good, but not great.

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Speaker 3: He's unusually young too.

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Speaker 2: He came out like he's only twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came out I was like a juju nineteen

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Speaker 3: He's younger than Steeler read Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here, having some conversation on this Tuesday about

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Speaker 2: list that you and I were kind of perusing through

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Speaker 2: to start the app. There are two Pittsburgh Steelers on here.

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Speaker 2: I think one is a name that everyone knows we've

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Speaker 2: had these conversations. The other a little bit further down

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Speaker 2: the totem pole in terms of just the money and

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Speaker 2: the ramifications. But both linebackers Patrick Queen and Malik Harrison

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked John on there.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that John New's not on here either, But

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Speaker 2: the two that he has listed on here are both linebackers,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Queen and Malie Harrison.

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Speaker 3: So how much do they say? With Harrison? I think

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Speaker 3: it's on there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's not a ton, not a ton.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It looks like he would be due four point four

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Speaker 2: point seventy five this year, so I that's the cash

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Speaker 2: do this year? None of that is guaranteed though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I think that's what you'd say.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds about right.

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Speaker 3: Probably an easy decision.

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Speaker 2: Then if that that's the number that you would save,

447
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 2: I think that becomes a.

448
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 3: Easy I think it is. And I think it's an

449
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 3: easy decision. You know, you already gave him some kind

450
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 3: of a bonus on a two year deal he z owed.

451
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 3: They call it paragraph nine. That's your you know what

452
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 3: you get every Monday, you know, and it's four point seven,

453
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: So you'd probably get four point seven and Capra leave

454
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 3: he's gone. Yeah, I think it's an easy one.

455
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: I think so too.

456
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't understand why the old staff

457
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 3: played him as much as he did on defense. I

458
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 3: also don't know how good of a special teamer he is.

459
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 3: I know he's a good special teamer, but a special teamer, right,

460
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: I don't think he's Killer Brew or Scornic. I mean,

461
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: and he's replaceable, so he I think he's definitely gone.

462
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 3: I also think John, who is definitely gone.

463
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Speaker 2: I would be shocked.

464
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean, because you're not going to play many two

465
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 3: or let alone three tight end sets, and I think

466
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: he's clearly three. And they gave him a contract when

467
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: they traded for him, which I'm sure they would tell

468
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 3: you is a mistake. And if they cut, they are

469
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: telling you it was a mistake because he wasn't a

470
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: bad deal for the team. But I thought he played

471
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: really poorly and didn't help the team enough. So I

472
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: think you get someone might be out there, correct me

473
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, but I think you get about twelve

474
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 3: million by cutting John hu and Harrison, which is great.

475
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 3: Twelve million. Then I mean that's a starting guard. Are

476
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: you get that to see him all over or whatever?

477
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a starting guard or a number three

478
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: receiver or a safety and whatever. But that's give it

479
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 3: all to Pierre or whatever. I mean.

480
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically, when the Steelers made that Ramsey and

481
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: John U for Minka trade. John Wu had at the

482
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: time just one year left on his deal. Yeah, yeah,

483
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: they added.

484
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: But he would have been a free agent now.

485
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: He would have been a free agent now, but they've

486
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: added a year onto that contract when they acquired him.

487
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: Which hey, at the time, it's not like any of

488
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: us were saying, whoa, that's a bad idea.

489
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean they were excited to get him. It

490
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 3: just didn't work.

491
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: I think we were all excited to get him.

492
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: A fit Arthur Smith way better than this group.

493
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: But this year seven million dollar base salary, three point

494
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: eight million signing uh.

495
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: Sar bonus coming up or something and may or.

496
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm trying to find the I'll never

497
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: get on. But yeah, I mean his cap hit this

498
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: upcoming season would be ten point eight million dollars, which

499
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: would be about double of what it was last year.

500
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Speaker 3: Wow, so I was even low. I mean, cutting him

501
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: and John who I think gets you around fifteen, or

502
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: him and Harrison I mean gets you around fifteen.

503
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: Feels feels pretty close to a to a no brainer converse.

504
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: And every team has like one or two of these

505
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: every year. This isn't unique, Like boy the Steelers are stupid.

506
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: That was a bad contract. No, I mean never, This

507
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: happens all the time.

508
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: This happens all the time.

509
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 3: Very few I mean well not very few, but few

510
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: players see every dollar of their second and third contracts.

511
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: That's a big misson.

512
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: That's why I guaranteed money is a big sticking point

513
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: in these negotiations.

514
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Speaker 3: This sport's much different than the other. Oh my gosh,

515
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: they either get restructured or traded or cut or whatever.

516
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: Which this is also this is a totally off season CBA,

517
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: totally different conversation. But I cannot believe that the NFL

518
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: players that that still goes on.

519
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 3: I know, I mean, just shows the power of the owners.

520
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: Shows the power of the owners. But it's bizarre that, like,

521
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: the NFL is the most profitable number one league in

522
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: the world, not just this country. How are the MLBPA

523
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: and the NHLPA and the NBA PA, how are they

524
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: lapping you, dude? Like, what are you doing here? But

525
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: that different conversation for a different.

526
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: One of the problems is the guys that get hurt,

527
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: most of the ones that are only in the league

528
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: for a year or two and don't have any weight

529
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: in that.

530
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Speaker 2: But I also not naive. I understand the injury rate

531
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: in this sport is much greater than those sorts. So

532
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm I don't want to be, you know, potentially ignorant here, but.

533
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: I think all the cap stuff is super easy in

534
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: those sports too. It's like he makes ten million a year,

535
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: he's a ten million or capit. That's it.

536
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 2: Hockey is very vanilla in that. Hockey's very vanilla in

537
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: that regard. NBA is a little different because they have

538
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: the soft cap and the hard cap. So like if

539
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: you if you if you draft the guy and develop them,

540
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: what you can do with a contract is a little more.

541
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: You can give them more money. There's some other parameters.

542
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: I think that goes back to the Larry Bird rule.

543
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: You know, like they didn't want guys moving around as

544
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: much like they want the homegrown. They wanted Bird to

545
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 3: say a Cello magic.

546
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: That's that's the That's the incentive is if you're if

547
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: you're a Cleveland Cavalier instead of Miami Heat or LA Lakers,

548
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: they can pay you more money. Yeah, the team drafted

549
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: draft keep you to keep you in there.

550
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: That doesn't hurt your small market.

551
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: So there's hard and soft cap and all that different stuff.

552
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: But you're right, but it's a lot more it's a

553
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 3: lot easier to figure out.

554
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: The figure out. It's still much easier to figure out.

555
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, But anyway, I do think Smith and Harrison are

556
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: gone for sure, and that should be good news to

557
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: people because I'll think fifteen million, you know, like, I

558
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: got this stuff in the garage that nobody wants anymore,

559
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: and you're gonna give me fifteen million for it.

560
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Speaker 2: Great, I think especially at tight end, where we know

561
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: that the usage of that position is going to I

562
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: don't want to say plummet, but is going to be

563
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: significantly less sucking many people. They're not going to make

564
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: it put as many people out there. It's just a

565
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: numbers game.

566
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if the six to zero line stuff

567
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: stay in or going who knows, but I think the

568
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: thirteen personnel stuff is going going. Yeah, long gone. And

569
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm actually worried about Washington getting.

570
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: Enough like the way the Dodo bird is. Rob King

571
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: would say.

572
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: I didn't realize, but to much shocked talking to Allan

573
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: Queen's contract is up after the year. I mean, I

574
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: know he's on this list, but I don't see a

575
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: suitable replacement. I mean, cutting him just creates another need.

576
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: That's my biggest thing. Yes, a need at a position

577
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: where again, getting back to the supply and demand conversation,

578
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: it's not quarterback in the NFL, right, but linebacker is

579
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: one of those positions that there's there's more demand than

580
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: there is supply.

581
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Speaker 3: M M. Now, maybe I would use a draft pick

582
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: around earlier than I originally thought on a linebacker. If

583
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: Harrison's leaving andans only here one more year, maybe I thought, oh,

584
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: I'll throw a fifth round pick in a linebacker that's

585
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: a special team or maybe you can convince me that

586
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: the last pick of the third round could be align something. Yeah, yeah,

587
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: and okay, you know, especially in a good linebacker draft,

588
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 3: which is relevant. But the thing about Queen, I guess,

589
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 3: really what and this isn't how Alan phrased it, but

590
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about this off the top of my head.

591
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: You probably have to have the conversation of do we

592
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: like him enough to add a year and that would

593
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: bring us cap hit down this.

594
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Year, but we're on the hook for him for but

595
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: do we.

596
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: Want him on the field all there? We happy with

597
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: his play enough that that's our linebacker and we're good

598
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: with that. And I think you can fight both ways

599
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: or are we happy we only have him this year

600
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: and then we're off the hook and we'll find our guy.

601
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: And but you know, it gives us three and sixty

602
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: five days to find the next one next to Wilson

603
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 3: or whatever, who might be looking for an extension at

604
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: that point too. And I think you go both ways

605
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: on that, yeah, you know, And do you really even

606
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: need the money this year? Like just putting an extra

607
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: year on there to knock his money down this year?

608
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: Buy you something that you need because you got a

609
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: lot of cap space anyway, it's going to grade fifteen more.

610
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 3: Like you can always restructure KM and Watt these guys,

611
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: but why do it if you have nothing to spend

612
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: it on. And they always talked about this like they

613
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 3: will never do it until the day they need to.

614
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's smart business.

615
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: It's great.

616
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 2: Don't make a decision until you have to.

617
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: I think we have all these options of how to

618
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: make more space, and plus you can roll over extra

619
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: cap space too, but you know, right.

620
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: You sure can. Don't put the car before the horse.

621
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Don't cross that bridge until you have to.

622
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: Don't make the decision until you have to.

623
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: But that just to me, Yeah, if you're getting rid

624
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: of Elik Harrison, I just that getting rid of No

625
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: matter how we feel about Malik Harrison, you'd be getting

626
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: rid of your first and you're third in terms of

627
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: how they played.

628
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: Them last year in terms of snap count, right, which.

629
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Speaker 2: Man at a at a position where it's hard to

630
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: find stability in the NFL, that would be a little risky.

631
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: I forget what grade we gave on off of all linebackers.

632
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't an A, it wasn't an F, but it

633
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: was I think a B. Yeah, say in that neighborhood,

634
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: it'd be hard to envision getting better there, right, you know,

635
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: like and you're going to be better.

636
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: You laid that out where if you just grade the

637
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: Steelers linebacker room based off of what we have traditionally,

638
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: especially as Pittsburgh Steeler fans become accustomed to with that position,

639
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: that's not really right. Like the Steelers linebacker room is

640
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: still in the was still in the top half of

641
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. Yeah, everybody top how many how many a

642
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: linebacker rooms off ball linebacker rooms are there in the league?

643
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: Not many, not many? And there's gonna be a lot

644
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: of these like Edmunds, guys that people thought were the

645
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: answer and be like, boy, we pent a lot of money.

646
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: And he's just okay and still expected on the coverage,

647
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: you know, right.

648
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: So I mean they're talking about Roquan Smith in Baltimore.

649
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, right, this is a I think

650
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: they probably just hang with Queen for a year and

651
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: see where he's at. I think so too, And I

652
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: also think he's a high character guy and they like

653
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: the person and green dot dude, right, and maybe a

654
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: news This is the only thing we talked about with Alan.

655
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: I mean, a new defense coordinator is going to see

656
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: him much different than the last half, much different, good

657
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: or bad or Mike. There's going to be two or

658
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: three defensive players that play better under this staff.

659
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Though at least they're better. That's why. That's why you

660
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: make change, right, right, right. And then I guess the

661
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: last person to discuss from a black of Gold perspective,

662
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: Matt is Jalen Ramsey. And I know we've had this

663
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: conversation a few times before. The pro to it is

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Speaker 2: you would save nearly twenty million dollars against the cap.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is significant change. The con to it is,

666
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Speaker 2: you've already you already have some seats to fill in

667
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Speaker 2: that secondary. Yeah, he is another one of those. I

668
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Speaker 2: think he's an adder in the locker room, in the

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Speaker 2: organization and the culture and all that stuff. And as

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Speaker 2: you and I have outlined, he moved out of position

671
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the season on the fly. And

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Speaker 2: there were some good, some bad. But you would be

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Speaker 2: kind of betting against a guy's accomplished as him figuring

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Speaker 2: it out and improving there over the offseason.

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Speaker 3: And I certainly can make the argument for all those

676
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Speaker 3: reasons he's slightly overpaid. Is he worth every penny of

677
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Speaker 3: that today?

678
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Speaker 2: Maybe not?

679
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Speaker 3: Maybe not, But but he also.

680
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Speaker 2: A squad corner.

681
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Speaker 3: And this goes back to another thing we're chatting with Alan.

682
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Speaker 3: It's like, I don't exactly know what this defensive coordinator wants,

683
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Speaker 3: you know, like the old scheme Minca was worth more

684
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Speaker 3: in his prime to the Steelers than others because they

685
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Speaker 3: played more single high than anybody else. So you need

686
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Speaker 3: a good single high safety. Do they want to ideally

687
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Speaker 3: play single high? Do they want Ramsey to be in

688
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Speaker 3: the slot. Are they going to be a too high team?

689
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Speaker 3: You know what? What are they going to ask out

690
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Speaker 3: of that position, And I wish I had that answer

691
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Speaker 3: better right now. And I think part of the reason

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Speaker 3: Omar made the trade of Minca was I'd rather have

693
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Speaker 3: money invested in a corner. He was a corner then, yes,

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Speaker 3: then a safety, you know, like which makes a ton

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Speaker 3: of sense. Yes, I mean I think when you're allocating resources,

696
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Speaker 3: so I want two big contracts at safety. Not that

697
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Speaker 3: Elliott's is huge, But the answer is usually know, you know,

698
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Speaker 3: but where else are you gonna use the money on? Too? Right?

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Speaker 2: You know you it's not all a money saving exercise.

700
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Speaker 2: How does this all work in concert to give you

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Speaker 2: the best possible roster within what you're looking for?

702
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Speaker 3: From hypothetical Like if you're if that's the only way

703
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Speaker 3: that you can make a trade for a J. Brown,

704
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Speaker 3: then you'd move the money. But if if that's not

705
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Speaker 3: something you're interesting, you know, some big money, if there's

706
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Speaker 3: some big ticket item, because it's not a quarterback, Willis

707
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Speaker 3: isn't big enough? Where break you got to pay all

708
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Speaker 3: these dudes just to get him unto the cab? I

709
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: mean that's you know, it'd be different if you're like

710
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Speaker 3: trading for.

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Speaker 2: Dak Yes, then he can cut everybody you got to

712
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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, it's it's an interesting conversation, it is,

713
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Speaker 2: and this is one will get clarity on sooner rather

714
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Speaker 2: than later. I would think most of these decisions will

715
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Speaker 2: happen in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: But we're getting I would think Harrison and Johnny are.

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Speaker 2: Those two I feel like are safe pretty easy? Yeah,

718
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Speaker 2: those two I feel like are pretty pretty darn safe.

719
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Speaker 2: You know what they say happens when you assume. But

720
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Speaker 2: those two.

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Speaker 3: I don't see the value and bringing them back at

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Speaker 3: that money. Yeah, yeah, I completely And Johnny doesn't play

723
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Speaker 3: any special teams for like, my third tight end's got

724
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: to be like a Connor Hayward special teamer now mm hm.

725
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Speaker 3: I mean it's different when you keep four and three

726
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Speaker 3: of them play all the time, you.

727
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Speaker 2: Know exactly right now, one of them is going to

728
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Speaker 2: be playing most of the time with you know, with

729
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Speaker 2: with you know, hopefully what we're thinking is a nice

730
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Speaker 2: kind of skill set marriage between Pat Fryarmouth and Darnell

731
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Speaker 2: Washington and what you can do with those two. But yeah,

732
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: that that feels like the easiest one to put your

733
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Speaker 2: chip on right now. Is Johnny Smith. Yes, Yes, let's

734
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Speaker 2: take our last break here of the day. When we

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Speaker 2: come back on the other side, Matt, we will get

736
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Speaker 2: into our tweets from the audience to close this thing down.

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Speaker 2: One more segment to go here on this Tuesday, Well Shuler,

738
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Speaker 2: Matt Williams, and it is the Drive, Steelers Nation Radio

739
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

741
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

742
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Speaker 2: Final segment here on this Tuesday of the Drive, and

743
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Speaker 2: we will close this thing down in style with your tweets,

744
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: your questions, your comments, your concerns, your reactions, all that

745
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: good stuff for those unaware that would like to participate.

746
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Speaker 2: Very easy on the ex Twitter is day. I want

747
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Speaker 2: to call it at Wesley Yuler at Williamson NFL is

748
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: where you can find us. And even if you know,

749
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: if you're listening back in podcast form or whatever the

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Speaker 2: case may be after the fact, still twist. We like

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Speaker 2: we we we book If there's a lot of times

752
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: where it'll be nine thirty at night and I'm checking

753
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Speaker 2: my social media and someone sends us a good tweet

754
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, bookmark this for tomorrow, you know,

755
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: so it doesn't have to be time specific to exactly

756
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: when we're on air, you guys tweet us, we will

757
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: get to them as long as they are good questions

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Speaker 2: and show appropriate of course.

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Speaker 3: Wow yes on YouTube? Yeah yeah as.

760
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Speaker 2: Well that as well. R J tweets us and says

761
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Speaker 2: draft question. How you guys feel about Drew Aller as

762
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: a potential mid round prospect for the Steelers. It's got

763
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: the height, got the weight, got the arm strength. I

764
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Speaker 2: feel like pairing him with Mike McCarthy. That idea is

765
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: growing on me. Or would that be too much to

766
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: hinder Will Howard?

767
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Speaker 3: I don't care about. I got plenty of reps to

768
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Speaker 3: go round.

769
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Speaker 2: In fact, this is one of those like you know,

770
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Speaker 2: someone like Motes or Max would be really good to

771
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Speaker 2: have this conversation with. The Last thing you want to

772
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Speaker 2: do is crown Will Howard or give.

773
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Speaker 3: Him anything right and anything.

774
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Speaker 2: Even if you are Mike McCarthy and you look at

775
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Speaker 2: Will Howard and you think I can turn this guy

776
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Speaker 2: into a top ten quarterback in the NFL, You're not

777
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Speaker 2: gonna hand it to it. You're not gonna even if

778
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Speaker 2: he was the Golden Boy, You're still not gonna hand.

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Speaker 3: It to you now. And you don't. And even if

780
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Speaker 3: you have Mahomes and Allen, you don't turn your back

781
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Speaker 3: on a guy if you think Aler in the fourth round.

782
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I do. But if you think Aller

783
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Speaker 3: in the fourth round, as we mentioned with with Alan,

784
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: could be worth it and could be a good starter

785
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: for you, you take him no matter what the Bill

786
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: should take him.

787
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: You've you brought up how the Packers used to do

788
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: that all the time, all the time, Matt Castle back

789
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: and Matts and right.

790
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Speaker 3: I mean, guys would have really good careers.

791
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: And far if they would trade for first to the

792
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Speaker 2: second or third round.

793
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: It's exactly what they did with Willis right.

794
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm listen. I'm I'm warming up to the

795
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: idea of a lot of these guys outside of the

796
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Speaker 2: first round. As long as it's outside of the first.

797
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Speaker 3: Round, maybe I'll be convinced even third. But I can't

798
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Speaker 3: imagine in my first two picks being on an Hour

799
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Speaker 3: or a Nus.

800
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Speaker 2: Or one of these other quarterbacks between now and April

801
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: would really have to grow on us. Yes, if you're

802
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: telling me right now, I could get Ty Simpson in

803
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: the second round. I might be in maybe Chambliss, maybe Chambliss.

804
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: I might be interested a lot of.

805
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: These think I'll get them with the twenty first pick

806
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: in the second round.

807
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Same you know a lot of these other guys, though,

808
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: I would be very willing to part with one of

809
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: those those trio of third round picks that the Steelers have.

810
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: Now, I don't want another Howard in that if I

811
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Speaker 3: drafts one, an hour might be the perfect guy for this.

812
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: Although he's got a lot of bad tape, but.

813
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: As do all these quarterbacks aren't going to go in

814
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Speaker 2: the first round.

815
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: But he is six five, two forty with a big arm,

816
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: you know, like he has things that if I get

817
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: the other stuff that I can correct right, I might

818
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: hit there, you know, Like, do I want another guy that?

819
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Speaker 3: And maybe Howard's way more than this, But I don't

820
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Speaker 3: want anyone who's ceiling is made in Rudolph. I'm not

821
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: just throwing that guy in the mix hoping that he

822
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: hits in the fourth, fifth round. But to me, that's

823
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: kind of like a club nick.

824
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: I've already got the floor guy, Like I think Will

825
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: Howard can have a pretty good floor.

826
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: Like I'm not said all great things about how the ceiling.

827
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm pretty convinced he's gonna be at least a really

828
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: solid two for his whole career. Yes, so I have

829
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: that box.

830
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Speaker 2: I think he can be a Charlie Batch. Yeah, yeah,

831
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: fact I'd signed for that in blood right now. Charlie

832
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Speaker 2: Batch for the next decade.

833
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: So between him and Rudolph, I think that box has

834
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: checked at least once, if not twice. One maybe is

835
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: for only one more year. One might be for the

836
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: next ten years. I've called Will Howard the franchise quarterbacks

837
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: caddie since they drafted him. But I thought they'd draft

838
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: that guy this year. But that's when I thought this

839
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Speaker 3: class was a lot betters are not as good as

840
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: I thought. But if you can, if you can give

841
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Speaker 3: me alur or even a couple of the dudes were

842
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: you know that are high upside Senior Bowl dudes. You

843
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: know there's some couple guys there that have some traits

844
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: in the mid rounds. I ask nothing of this year.

845
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: Howard's gonna get a ton of reps. I'm just gonna

846
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: try to develop this dude. I'm interested. I'm interested, absolutely, Yeah.

847
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Speaker 2: You got it.

848
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: You got a lot of bad things about Aler, but

849
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: they're correctable.

850
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: You got to step up to the plate and you know,

851
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: take some swings.

852
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: And if it means I have to cut or trade

853
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: Rudolph for nothing, that's fine.

854
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: That's a risk I'm willing to take because I.

855
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Think by the end of camp we'll look at Howard

856
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: and be like, if Rogers gets hurt, is it Howard

857
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 3: or Rudolph? So if I even have that question, what's

858
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: Rudolph even getting me at this point? And if let

859
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: alone on game day, it's like Howard's really the two

860
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: at this point he could go past I mean again,

861
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: him going past Rudolph by the end of by cutdown day,

862
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: isn't that hard to do?

863
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: No?

864
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and he might be the active guy anyways,

865
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: And then you're looking at who's the project behind Howard.

866
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: Which would be how That would be a good place

867
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: to be.

868
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: That's where you want to be, right.

869
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: Juju tweets us and says, might the Steelers target a

870
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 2: kick return specialist in free agency?

871
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: Mm?

872
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: Somewhere interesting.

873
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: I think it's more important than ever. I think the

874
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: new rules have made far less touchbacks. Starting fuel positions

875
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: better than ever. Now. People think they're interchangeable, they're not.

876
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 3: I'd love to find someone that can do both because

877
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't think Austin will be back as a punt returner.

878
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: I know, like Kent can do it, but I don't

879
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: even know if he's gonna make the team, and I

880
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: don't know if he's even good at it. But I've

881
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: kind of looked at if you take an extra receiver

882
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: draft on in round one, and you take one in

883
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: like the fifth or sixth round, maybe that's a return

884
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: guy of some sort for you. And another guy that

885
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 3: I think even somebody tweets us about. But I've thought

886
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: about him a lot, just because I've watched more pit

887
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: than most teams. But like, are you familiar with Reid

888
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: the running back? Yeah, you can convince me to throw

889
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: a six round pick at a small, dynamic dude like that.

890
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: That could probably do both for you. But I do

891
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: think returner is a need. I don't want to throw

892
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: a warning gamebo back there again.

893
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: And as we've seen some special teams, coaches and coordinators

894
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: are starting to figure it out a little bit now

895
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: two years into this thing. Yeah, and that's a big advantage. Uh,

896
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: here's a funny one. An he tweets us and says,

897
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: we need an answer to the key question, what did

898
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson end up eating during the Super Bowl.

899
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't even remember Saturday.

900
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: It was Sunday, it was the Super Bowl.

901
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Well I know, but Saturday we went out. I got

902
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: takeout for my wife and daughter at a real good

903
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: Italian restaurant. So I say leftovers, but they were awesome leftovers. Stuff, banana, papperveal, palm.

904
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: It was great leftover.

905
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: I would say this is one of my takes, but

906
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't think like this has become This has become

907
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: Aaron Smith is underrated. Everybody agreed that now you're you're

908
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: not laying on Plymouth Rock anymore. Italian Chinese food, Mexican food,

909
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: they might be better. The next day. You give the

910
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: sauce and everything time to soak into the noodles and

911
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: the rice and the and they ate.

912
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: All their leftovers because they didn't need I mean, yeah.

913
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, of course. No wings though, huh.

914
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: They didn't order anything special for the game. But we

915
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: had a lot of food in the house and it

916
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: was good food.

917
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: Justin tweets and says. Would the Steelers have enough picks

918
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: in the draft to double up on wide receiver, defensive line,

919
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: and offensive line.

920
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 3: I think two out of three.

921
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you need to double up on

922
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: offensive line.

923
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: See I would double up on line. I don't think

924
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: i'd double up on D line really. I just think

925
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: you keep six or seven. You probably have those rosters.

926
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: Assuming Cam comes back. I would go big or go

927
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: home on D line. Basically, I think you definitely could

928
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: take two receivers receiver easy and I think you can

929
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: lean that way. And I think, and you do the numbers,

930
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: O line I would take. I would love to take

931
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: two nonsenters, but someone that's like a project tackle that

932
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 3: may be not even active on game day, and maybe

933
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: someone that's like fighting for its guard spot in year one,

934
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: a third round pick. And have you know that? That's

935
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: my one extra theory.

936
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: Like on the surface, you know, I like your one

937
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: extra theory. I just look specifically and I go, Okay,

938
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: I think obviously three of your five starters on that

939
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: offensive liner set, you can already chisel them in stone

940
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: from Fraser on down that right side left tackle Cooker Jones,

941
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: Like it's going to be a competition, but you got them.

942
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: You probably have this starter and then for only one year.

943
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: Now that's the that's the real thing.

944
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: And so I'm going to project there. I'm looking at

945
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: it a small school. Yeah, there was a kid at

946
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: William and Mary last year, you know.

947
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at it as like, so, I I

948
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: think I've got five capable guys in that group. You

949
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: throw Anderson in there makes it six. If you draft

950
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: me another one, that's seven. I guess you're right.

951
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 3: I would still have no idea what Alvin Anderson's worth. Yeah,

952
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: he's under contract, he can be at camp.

953
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: And then I guess to a part of it, say

954
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: mal who comes back or not? That factors incase if

955
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: you resign. But wide receiver definitely.

956
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about two D tackles. Agreed, Yeah, agreed,

957
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: But if you give me a second round, Mike.

958
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: Just my initial kind of leaning towards defensive line was

959
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: just I feel less confident in the group there overall

960
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: than I do the offensive line.

961
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, like the actual but your.

962
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: Your logic of just the general science of the position

963
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: makes a lot of.

964
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: Sense to Yeah, but you you wouldn't do all three.

965
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be six of your twelve draft picks.

966
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: That that's also assuming that they don't part with any

967
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: of those to move up or move around in any place.

968
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I assume they're gonna draft the defensive back.

969
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: Then they don't part with one of those for a

970
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: mac Jones type before the draft, right.

971
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: Which could happen to totally. I mean, that's a whole

972
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: different story, is could you because you have cap space

973
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: new picks.

974
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: Maybe tomorrow Matt will do a would you rather Wednesday

975
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: and I'll ask you about would you rather the ninety

976
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: ninth overall pick or mac Jones? Yeah, something like that.

977
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do that tomorrow.

978
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: I need someone to do the work for me of

979
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: potential trade candidates DJ Moore, AJ Brown. You these guys

980
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: that are probably gonna move for cap reasons or other

981
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: reasons that you could get Max Crosby, you know, like

982
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys are going to get traded, but

983
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 3: the Steelers could add somebody.

984
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll look into that a little bit tonight. We'll

985
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: have a fun segment with that tomorrow. That will do

986
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: it for us. Today we got a really good tweet

987
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: about quarterbacks and the next Sam Darnold from Chris. I

988
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: want to save that one for tomorrow. We will get

989
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: to that tomorrow because we don't have the proper time

990
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: to afford to it. Today. We'll also look at some

991
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: some more mock drafts. Tomorrow I want to do some

992
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: way too early twenty twenty six power rankings, throw them

993
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: out with Matt Williamson and the and again I'm gonna

994
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: do some research into some of that trade stuff and

995
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: present you with some possible scenarios. Maybe we'll make a

996
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: would you rather Wednesday or regular thing with just different

997
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: potential trade for this person or sign that person go

998
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: to the draft or try and strike a deal. So

999
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: we'll get into some of that tomorrow as well. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Alan Saunders for joining us today, Nate Dogg producing

1001
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Speaker 2: on the ones and twos. Big shout out to Nathan,

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Speaker 2: and as always, a tip of the cap to Tyler

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Speaker 2: V mister TV for keeping us handsome on the YouTube

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Speaker 2: side of things. For Matt Willimson, I'm Wushueler. Take care everybody.

1005
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1006
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