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Speaker 1: way back. Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by Microsoft. It is Week thirteen of the NFL season,

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Speaker 1: and I have invited in a guy a lot of

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Speaker 1: you guys might know out there. Ninety seven zero point one.

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Speaker 1: Sports writer Will Birchfield does the pregame show for Fox

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Speaker 1: two that I'm sure a lot of you guys watch.

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Speaker 1: Does a great job. Will dips his.

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Speaker 2: Toes in a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: Here and Detroit. So look, we've got to start because

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Speaker 1: I'm a hockey guy. Yeah, I know you are a

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Speaker 1: hockey guy. There's an addition there with the Detroit Red Wings.

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Speaker 1: I think the Alliance fans will be interested. Patrick Kane,

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Speaker 1: veteran guy. I know. We talked about Lockero the other day.

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Speaker 1: We're both very excited about that one.

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Speaker 3: It feels like the old days when stars flocked to

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Speaker 3: hockey town to hunt Stanley cups. Think about that two

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Speaker 3: team that had ten Hall of Famers, Patty Kane is

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Speaker 3: a surefire first ballot Hall of Famer. To see him

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Speaker 3: because Patty Kane playing with Dylan Larkin and alex To

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Speaker 3: So I know you want to go watch him play.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to watch him play as soon as he

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Speaker 1: My son played travel hockey author growing up since he

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Speaker 1: He texted me he was at school, which you're kind

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Speaker 1: did you see who we just got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He's so excited. So once you get settled in, I

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Speaker 2: And he showtime.

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Speaker 3: I mean I had his jersey growing up to the

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Speaker 2: Really good move.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to remove any bias from the reporting, but

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Speaker 1: So you've got some young stars, You've got some old

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Speaker 1: here for the key matchup segment. Like we do every week,

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Speaker 1: Jack Campbell, right, I mean, you were the number eighteen pick.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn said on Thursday that look, he's gonna handle

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Speaker 3: And Aaron Glenn also said that's the reason we got him.

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Speaker 3: He's catching more passes than ever. I think he's got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like every time I see a Taysom

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Speaker 1: I'll see you see Patty Kane, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty mil Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very happy to welcome in John Dessager, who

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Speaker 1: does a great job the senior writer down with the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. John, thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tim, I appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: All right, well let's get get into it right away.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a big game for both teams, both teams coming

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Speaker 1: off losses. I'm pretty sure down there you guys felt

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Speaker 1: like maybe you gave one away having four hundred yards

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Speaker 1: of offense going zero for five in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: And you look at Detroit, they probably feel the same

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Speaker 1: thing about their Thanksgiving Day game with three turnovers and

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Speaker 1: you know some of the some of the things that

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Speaker 1: happened on fourth down, not taking advantage some of those situations.

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Speaker 1: Just how big of a game do you guys view

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Speaker 1: this in New Orleans And how good of a matchup

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Speaker 1: do you expect Sunday at the Caesar super Dome.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's huge for the Saints. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: they're five and six, and yeah, they're in the first

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Speaker 6: place in the n SCC South, which probably says a

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Speaker 6: little bit of something about the NFC South. But I

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Speaker 6: mean they really need to win here because you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: they're tied with Atlanta, but Atlanta actually has to head

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Speaker 6: to head and they need to start stacking together some wins.

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Speaker 6: There's only six games left they've given away in their account,

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Speaker 6: you know, several of those games, so you know, if

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Speaker 6: they had a little bit more red zone efficiency, as

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Speaker 6: you mentioned over five on Sunday, but you know, seventeen

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Speaker 6: of forty for the season forty two and a half percent,

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Speaker 6: which is I think fourth worst in the league. You

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Speaker 6: can't win NFL games that way. You've got to be

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Speaker 6: efficient in the red zone. Field goals won't get it.

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Speaker 6: You know, you need touchdowns, you need sevens down there,

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Speaker 6: and they have not been doing that for the majority

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Speaker 6: of this season.

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Speaker 1: I think that'll be an interesting aspect of Sunday's game.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Lions defensively, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: areas where they've struggled a little bit. I think they

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Speaker 1: ranked thirtieth in the league in red zone defense. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously a kind of pour on poor there. Maybe who

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Speaker 1: gets it done will have an edge in this game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, John, Let's talk about the injuries a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a little bit more concerning in New Orleans than

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Speaker 1: they are in Detroit. But good signed to see Chris

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Speaker 1: Olave back on the practice field on Wednesday. I know

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Speaker 1: it was limited, just how is he doing and how

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Speaker 1: is New Orleans from an injury standpoint, Well, it.

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Speaker 6: Was fantastic to see him because you know, we didn't

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Speaker 6: know what his status would be, considering it's the second

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Speaker 6: concussion that he got in Atlanta his second and two seasons,

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Speaker 6: so we didn't know exactly what the status was going

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Speaker 6: to be. But seeing him on the practice field was

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Speaker 6: encouraging for the team because you know, right now or

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Speaker 6: in last season, he is the number one receiver on

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Speaker 6: this team and so they need him. Essentially, if Michael

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Speaker 6: Thomas is already on injury reserve, it looks like Rashid

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Speaker 6: Shaheed is not going to be going because of a

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Speaker 6: quiet injury. So those are your top three receivers and

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Speaker 6: Alive is the only one remaining, so you know he's

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Speaker 6: going to draw special attention on Sundays, you know, from

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Speaker 6: the opposing team. But having him out there obviously means that, yeah,

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Speaker 6: other guys have to fill in, but maybe they'll get

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Speaker 6: a little bit more space because of the attention that

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Speaker 6: Alive will draw. So good to having him back on

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Speaker 6: the field. Cam Jordan who missed practice on Wednesday the

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Speaker 6: game in Atlanta early with an ankle injury, and you know,

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Speaker 6: he's one of those guys who is never He's only

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Speaker 6: missed one game in his thirteen year NFL career and

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Speaker 6: that was due to a yea due to a fractured

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Speaker 6: orbital bone, which basically they had to sit it down.

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Speaker 6: He was not going. He was not going to sit down.

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Speaker 6: The team had to make him sit out. So he's

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Speaker 6: missed one game, so you know, I would expect him

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Speaker 6: to play if at all possible on Sunday. He's one

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Speaker 6: of those guys unless a bone is protruding, he literally

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Speaker 6: is going to be playing. So I expect him to

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Speaker 6: be out on the field. But maybe bigger Pete Werner

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Speaker 6: didn't work linebacker. He has no bleaque injury. He didn't

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Speaker 6: work on Wednesday, so he needs to be out there

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Speaker 6: in the field because you know, for you know, he's

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Speaker 6: the second best linebacker obviously behind the Mario Davis, one

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Speaker 6: of the top defensive players on this team. Marshawn Lattimore

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Speaker 6: probably will not be going because he got injured earlier

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Speaker 6: and didn't play in the Atlanta game, and so he's

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Speaker 6: going to be out maybe a couple of more weeks.

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Speaker 6: And now you have Isaac Yadham at that at that

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Speaker 6: cornerback position. So the Saints are beat up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: They are a little bit more healthy on the offensive line,

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Speaker 6: which is been the position where they've been a lot

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Speaker 6: beat up this season. Looks like they might be getting

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Speaker 6: some continuity there, but to have out you know, Marshaun Lattimore,

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Speaker 6: Michael Thomas and Rashid Shaheed and possibly Cam Jordan big

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Speaker 6: losses for the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it's the next man up mentality down there

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Speaker 1: in New.

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Speaker 2: Orleans this week.

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Speaker 1: Certainly John Now one guy maybe Lions fans don't know

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Speaker 1: who could have an impact come Sunday's matchup.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think they know Taysom Hill, and I think

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Speaker 6: they know Allen Kamara, and I mean, you know the

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Speaker 6: guy they might not know so much about, you know,

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Speaker 6: Carl Grinderson, the defensive end who's having a really good

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Speaker 6: season this Year's got five and a half sacks a

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Speaker 6: least the team. He's really played well at the defensive

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Speaker 6: end slot. Having said that, Saints only have eighteen sacks

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Speaker 6: the season, and they have not been able to generate

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Speaker 6: the kind of pressure that they want to generate. Carl

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Speaker 6: Grinderson started fast and at the entire defensive line, the

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Speaker 6: entire defense for that matter, has tailed off. When it

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Speaker 6: comes to getting to the quarterback. Now, Jared Golf might

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Speaker 6: be a little less mobile than the quarterbacks they've seen

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Speaker 6: during this five six game stretch, so that might help

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Speaker 6: out a bit. But he's probably the guy to watch

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Speaker 6: that right defensive end because he's been the guy who's

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Speaker 6: had the most impact on that defensive line.

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Speaker 1: That'll be a fun matchup when it's Piney Sewell and

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Speaker 1: him matched up to two of the better young players

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Speaker 1: in this league at their respective positions. The Lions have

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Speaker 1: talked about the Saints defense this week as an opportunistic defense,

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Speaker 1: and you just look at some of the takeaway numbers

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Speaker 1: within their second league in interceptions, I think their fourth

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Speaker 1: overall john in takeaways. Is that a good way to

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Speaker 1: describe this? You know, what do they do well? Why

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Speaker 1: are they able to kind of generate those big plays

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Speaker 1: on defense that have kept them in games and help

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Speaker 1: them win games this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well, we mentioned they have been getting the sacks, but

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Speaker 6: they have been generating some pressure to force some air

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Speaker 6: and throws, and the coverage has been really good on

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Speaker 6: the back end, especially Paulton the debo. He's got four interceptions,

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Speaker 6: he leads the team, and he's been really good at

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Speaker 6: left cornerback. He's been really good at that position. So

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Speaker 6: they have been able to get some take aways. The

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Speaker 6: issue with the Saints, defense really has been, you know,

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Speaker 6: the strength of the strength of the unit, and really

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Speaker 6: the strength of the team of the last several years

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Speaker 6: has been run defense. They've been able to stop the

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Speaker 6: run and they have not been able to do it.

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 6: Atlanta had two hundred and twenty eight rushing yards against

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Speaker 6: the Saints, and generally that's something that it would take

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Speaker 6: you know, three opponents to accumulate, and the Falcons got

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Speaker 6: it in one game. In the NFL. I think we

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Speaker 6: all know, tim, if you can't stop the run, you

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Speaker 6: can't stop anything on defense. So and so that's been

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Speaker 6: the safe issue. They have not been able to stop

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Speaker 6: the run. They haven't been able to get off the

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Speaker 6: field on defense. That's something and we know that that

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Speaker 6: is a Lion's strength. The Lions obviously are going to

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Speaker 6: play to that, and they probably are looking at the

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Speaker 6: film saying, Okay, this is a unit we can take

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Speaker 6: advantage of it. And until the Saints show that they

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Speaker 6: can stop it, every team is going to think that

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Speaker 6: and going to go in the game looking at that

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Speaker 6: because they have not been able to stop it for

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Speaker 6: at least six weeks. Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good point by you. Detroit Lions have three one

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Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing performances this year, top five in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and rushing, so obviously that's what they want to

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Speaker 1: come in and do set the tone for their offense.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff is terrific at play action off that run,

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Speaker 1: but really their offense is predicated on running the football,

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Speaker 1: So that'll be an interesting dynamic to watch early in

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Speaker 1: this one. When you talk to Dennis Allen this week,

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Speaker 1: what's his biggest concern maybe when talking about Detroit on

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Speaker 1: either side of the football, Well.

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Speaker 6: That run game that we talked about, and also Jared

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Speaker 6: Goff is really he's really accurate when he gets the time.

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Speaker 6: You want to get him off the spots, obviously, but

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Speaker 6: if you can't get him off the spots, and the

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Speaker 6: rush game is going to have to do that, the

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Speaker 6: pass rush is going to have to do that. If

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Speaker 6: you can't get him off his spots, then he's an

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Speaker 6: accurate thrower and he's got some guys that he can

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Speaker 6: throw it too. And of course, you know, you build

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Speaker 6: everything off the run game. No, defensively, you know, the

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Speaker 6: Lions probably you know, haven't been exactly what they want

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Speaker 6: to be, but you know, if you got Aden H. Hutchinson.

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Speaker 6: You've got a guy who can get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: And if you've got a guy who can get to

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Speaker 6: the quarterback, either he can get there or because you

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Speaker 6: have to pay special attention to him, he can free

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Speaker 6: up someone else to be able to get there. So

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Speaker 6: I would think that the Lions pass rush is something

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Speaker 6: that is pretty primary on the Saint's mind because they

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Speaker 6: did have some issues protecting the passer earlier in this season.

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Speaker 6: They gave up like seventeen sacks in the first three

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Speaker 6: games and that was alarming, and they were able to

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Speaker 6: kind of settle down and they've been pretty good at

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Speaker 6: that in the last few weeks. But still it's an

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Speaker 6: issue that isn't completely solved because you still can't get

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Speaker 6: to the same quarterback with some pressure. So it's one

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Speaker 6: of those things where you know, we know Aaron Glenn,

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Speaker 6: the defensive coordinator, We're pretty familiar with him, and so

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Speaker 6: we know ag is not just going to sit back

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Speaker 6: and allow Derek Carr to be comfortable in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan Campbell is certainly looking forward to going back,

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of old friends. There, there's the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn connection. There fun little matchup this week with with

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Speaker 1: with some of these coaching staffs on these players. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams down there, Lions fans know him really really

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Speaker 1: well and interesting dynamic with with a you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that are very familiar with each other.

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Speaker 1: What's what's the opinion of Dan Campbell in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: We love it. We love it.

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Speaker 6: Look, I know a lot of people kind of had

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Speaker 6: a little fun when he was talking about biting people' kneecaps.

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Speaker 6: But that's Dan, That's exactly who he is. There's nothing

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Speaker 6: fake about that dude. I mean when he said that,

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Speaker 6: I mean, everybody kind of like I said, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously he's not talking about literally biting somebody's kneecaps.

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Speaker 6: But what he was saying was, you know, look, we'll

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Speaker 6: do anything we can to win a game. And he's

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Speaker 6: that type of dude, and you can see it in

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Speaker 6: his roster, you can see it in his players. A

658
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 6: kind of guy who gives you that confidence, he gives

659
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 6: you that backbone, he gives you that grit, he gives

660
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 6: you that you know, I believe whoever it is we're playing,

661
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: if we play hard enough, we got a chance, and Look,

662
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Speaker 6: there are a lot of guys who are coaches. There

663
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Speaker 6: are a few guys who are leaders of men who

664
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Speaker 6: make people want to do the things that they that they.

665
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Speaker 2: Ask him to do.

666
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Speaker 6: And man, he's really really good at that. Just a

667
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 6: really emotional guy, uh in this personal leader. I think

668
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 6: everybody who saw him on Hard Knocks guy a real

669
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 6: good look into who he was, and you got a

670
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 6: good feel for the kind of person he is and

671
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 6: the kind of and the kind of coach he is.

672
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Speaker 6: And you can understand why players want to play hard

673
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: for this guy because he is genuine. That's that's who

674
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Speaker 6: he is. And I think guys really really enjoy that.

675
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 6: I know the Saints players enjoy being around him because

676
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 6: you know, he's just such a fiery, feisty guy.

677
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's looking forward to some of that shrimp gumbo

678
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: that he's going to get down there too. We talked

679
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: about that this week. Where's where's a good spot he

680
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: can go get some of that? I'm sure he knows,

681
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: but but maybe if our audience, some Detroit people are

682
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Speaker 1: going down there, where's the best spot? Man?

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Speaker 6: It's hard to find a restaurant that you can't get

684
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Speaker 6: some of it. I would say it's.

685
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Speaker 2: One of those places I love New Orleans.

686
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: You're so right, it's just one of those spots.

687
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 6: You know. Now there's a place, Neil's Cafe that is

688
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 6: really really fantastic. They're going to have a really good,

689
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 6: you know, good meal there if they decide to go there.

690
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 6: And also, but anywhere in the French Quarter if they're

691
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 6: down there, which I'll imagine that's where they're going to be,

692
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 6: you know, go down you know, not not necessarily Bourbon Street,

693
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 6: but in the French Quarter. The restaurants surrounding Bourbon Street

694
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 6: will give you great meals, and everybody pretty much does

695
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 6: a pretty good gumbo. It just depends on what kind

696
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 6: of gumbo you want, you know, if you're a guy

697
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 6: who wants to oprah in it. But there are a

698
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 6: lot of people who like to chicken the sausage gumbo,

699
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 6: so it's really good around me.

700
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Speaker 1: There you go, Lions fans, there's a scoop the inside,

701
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: the inside scoop of where to go. John, I appreciate

702
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: you taking the time. Big game for both teams, you know,

703
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: New Orleans trying to stay atop the South obviously the

704
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Lions are are, you know, trying to spread some distance

705
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: between them and Minnesota, both teams looking to get back

706
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: on track. It should be a fun one. Thank you

707
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time. I appreciate it. We'll

708
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Speaker 1: see you down in New Orleans on Sunday.

709
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Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate it.

710
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 6: Thank you guys for having me and good look every week,

711
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Speaker 6: but every week with this one.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, have a good one. Welcome back to

713
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: the Twin in the Uddle podcast presented by Micro. Very

714
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: happy to welcome Graham Glasgow, veteran guard for the Detroit Lions,

715
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: and let's start with this. Graham, you obviously don't have

716
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: a performance that you guys like on Thanksgiving. You love

717
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: having the mini by to get healthy, but is it

718
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: harder after a performance like that having a little bit

719
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: of buye waiting for a game. Are you one of

720
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: those guys that would rather just kind of get right

721
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: back at it, get that bad taste maybe out of

722
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: your mouth? Or did you enjoy having the time at

723
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: this point in the season to maybe get healthy, you know,

724
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: get get your body back to where you're feeling good

725
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: heading into week thirteen?

726
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Speaker 4: I mean I didn't, I mean nobody really liked you

727
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: know what happened on Thanksgiving. But it's really stinks to

728
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: have to wait like three days, four days before you

729
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: come back into the building and then hash it out

730
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: with your coaches. And that's probably the worst, you know,

731
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 4: the worst part about it. You're just sitting there and

732
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: you know they talk about having a bad taste in

733
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: your mouth. I mean, you just sit there waiting to

734
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: even go over it, and you're just like, oh Jesus,

735
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: And I mean I think that it, you know, no

736
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Speaker 4: matter like when it is on a short week or

737
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: maybe it was like in primetime. Maybe it's just a

738
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: normal Sunday game, Like nobody is happy, you know, after

739
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: a bad game.

740
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Speaker 5: So I think that we're looking forward to this upcoming week.

741
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys rushed for one hundred and four yards.

742
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: You guys did some good things on offense. But I

743
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: think you guys in that room probably hold yourself to

744
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: such a high standard that when you see three sacks,

745
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: when you see twelve hits, that's probably the things that

746
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: jump out to you.

747
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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 1: What's been the atmosphere in the room this week in

749
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: that old line room, just really kind of wanting to

750
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Speaker 1: get back at it and prove that maybe that was

751
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a phenomenally on Thanksgiving.

752
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Speaker 5: I think that, Yeah, I mean, I think that that's

753
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 5: kind of it.

754
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: I think that, especially like yesterday I practice, when were

755
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: the pads on, I thought things were pretty crisp and

756
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: things were going well, and I think that we, you know,

757
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: in general, I think a lot of guys felt like

758
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: they didn't really have their best performance, and as you said,

759
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: a lot of it kind of came in Like the

760
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: past pro side of things. I thought the run game

761
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: stuff was usually pretty pretty fine for the most part.

762
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: But I mean it's just yeah, itching to get back

763
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: out there and have another, uh, have another game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people appreciate the job that you

765
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: have done this year. I mean, you've started at center,

766
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: You've started at right guard, you've started at left guard.

767
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: You rank in the top ten by Pro Football Focus

768
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: in terms of grades along the interior. Just how I

769
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: don't want you to have to brag yourself up, but

770
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: just how difficult is going from right to left to center?

771
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Speaker 2: Is it just as an interior alignment?

772
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Speaker 1: Do you just know that at any given time I

773
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: could move and I have to study them all? Just

774
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: how difficult is that too? Maybe week to week never

775
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: really know that you're going to be settled into one spot.

776
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Speaker 5: When you're playing like one position.

777
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Speaker 4: I feel like it's just kind of like human nature

778
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: to not think about other things, like not think about

779
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: the other spots, and like that's just I wasn't thinking

780
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: about it. I just was going through, you know, I

781
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: did a little bit of center. I was playing center

782
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: and right guard and camp, and that's fine. That's the spot.

783
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: Those are the spots I probably played the most. Those

784
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: the spots I've played the most of my career. So

785
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: I didn't really you know that didn't.

786
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Speaker 5: Really mind it.

787
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: But then like the left guard stuff that I didn't,

788
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: I wasn't really happy about that. I mean, I hadn't

789
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: played it since like twenty seventeen, right, which sounds you know,

790
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: it sounds like a long time ago, now, huh.

791
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Speaker 5: Ye're saying that all lot.

792
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, just.

793
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: Going back and forth. I wasn't really a fan of it,

794
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: but I mean it's just what we had to do,

795
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: you know, to give the team the best chance to win.

796
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: And I mean most of the games went well, so

797
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: I can't really complain.

798
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: It's the biggest difference because maybe some people who don't

799
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: know football will say, well, you're just moving over two spots.

800
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you're still playing guard. What's the difficult spot

801
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: about going from right to left on the interior where

802
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: people have to remember, things happen a lot faster on

803
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: the inside they do.

804
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I think a lot of it just kind

805
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: of comes down to what you're comfortable with, and everything

806
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: is just like it's not like everything is kind of reversed,

807
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: Like the stuff that you're comfortable doing on one side

808
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 4: is like the opposite on the other side. So things

809
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: that it may and people might not like even think about,

810
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: like post feet and like what foot is like your

811
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: back foot, your brace foot. And at the end of

812
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: the day, I think that it's just like what you

813
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: fall into like a rhythm kind of when you play

814
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: a spot for like a long enough period of time

815
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: to where you're you're able to like sink in your

816
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: hips correctly, like it feels good, and when you're shifting

817
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: around moving around, it just doesn't feel it doesn't feel right,

818
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: Like it may look fine, but it doesn't.

819
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel right.

820
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: And so that was kind of what I felt when

821
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: I was going from right to left and then going

822
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: to center was.

823
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: Was cool. I mean, that was just like it was fine.

824
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: I've played center, that's that's fine, But having to go

825
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: from right guard to left guard to center, my hips

826
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: were like wonky.

827
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Speaker 1: I was just.

828
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: Wonky, and I was I was happy to get the

829
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: boy after that and be able to kind of like

830
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: work some work some things out.

831
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Speaker 5: That was good.

832
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: Well from the outside and look at it, but from

833
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, it looked all good because the

834
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: credit to you for being able to to step in

835
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: there and keep the thing moving forward. Yeah, when your

836
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: team needed. Speaking of stepping forward, getting maybe some guys

837
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: about how good it was it. Jonah back at practice

838
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: this week. He's missed last couple games. We'll see how

839
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the weekend trends to see if he's trending toward playing

840
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: or not. But just to get him back there and

841
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: have you five guys back together again, it seems like

842
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen it a whole lot. I think

843
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: only two starts with the top five just because of

844
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: injuries and guys moving in and out. How good was

845
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: it to have Jonah back and just get the five

846
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: of you guys back together this week? It feels good.

847
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: I mean I think that as long as Jonah's like

848
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 4: healthy and as you said, trending really good. Then I

849
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: think that it's just going to be nice to be

850
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: able to have everybody out there. You know, everybody's really experienced.

851
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 4: Everybody knows what to do, and I think that that's

852
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: what is part of what makes us so good when

853
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: we can all play. Yeah, and Jonah's a big part

854
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: of it. I think Joonah is a really really great guard,

855
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 4: so having him back out there be a big help.

856
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: How fun is it going to be just a part

857
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: of this offense? I mean, you look at it, it's

858
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: pretty rare to be top five in the league in

859
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: passing and running just to be versatile like that, and

860
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: have an offensive coordinator in Ben Johnson where fourth and

861
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: six late in a game, like he'll he'll call run

862
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: play to keep the defense off guard just because he

863
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: trusts you guys in that backfield so much. How much

864
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: fun of an offense is this to be a part of?

865
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 5: It's amazing.

866
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I it feels really great when things are

867
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: going well, you know what I mean? Yeah, definitely, And

868
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. Like this season so far, things

869
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: have gone well, and it's it's been really really fun

870
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: and I've been in a lot of situations. I've been

871
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 4: on a lot of teams where things haven't always gone

872
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: well and it's not nearly as fun. And uh, I

873
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: think that, you know, we have a lot of bright

874
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Speaker 4: coaches here, a lot of guys who are smart, a

875
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: lot of guys who usually put us in like the

876
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: right place and get us in situations that like to

877
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 4: you know, what we do best. And I think that

878
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: the results have kind of showed for themselves.

879
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: How much have you been impressed with Dan Campbell in

880
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: that regard and what he's been able to do now

881
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: only just putting the staff that you just talked about together,

882
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: but it seems like there's a there's just a mindset here,

883
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: a culture that's been built that maybe wasn't here the

884
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: last time you were here. And just talk about the

885
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: job that Campbell's done, and he seems like a kind

886
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: of coach that a player will run through a wall for.

887
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

888
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 5: Yeah?

889
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: I mean I think that Dan is he's a really

890
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 4: good motivator, he's a good leader, and I think that

891
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: that's something that you're really kind of looking for.

892
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 5: You know. Sometimes I'm not saying that it's like a

893
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 5: bad thing to have a coach.

894
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 4: It's like always even keeled because you know, when SIT's

895
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: hitting the fan right, like, that's somebody you'd want to

896
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: be around. But I feel like Dan is somebody who

897
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: can always rally the troops no matter the situation. Yeah,

898
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 4: you know, Dan's always getting people like just riled up,

899
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: which I kind of.

900
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: Like, speaking of role, that Ford Field crowd has been

901
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: riled up from your first stint here to now seems

902
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: like night and day. How much fun is it to

903
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: be back in there when you guys are winning and

904
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: it's as loud and as ruckus as it's been, and

905
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: then for the fans to travel on the road too

906
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: and give you guys some love on the road as well.

907
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: The fans have been amazing, I mean, and this has

908
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: been a it's been a great environment, especially like the

909
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: home games. You know, I feel like the fans are

910
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: always you know, not only are they being allowed when

911
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: we're on defense and the other teams on offense, I

912
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: feel like they're usually pretty good about, you know, making

913
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: sure that it's quiet enough for us to like, you know,

914
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: operate the offenses optimally as we can. Yeah, And I

915
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: think that it's just been as you said, it's just amazing.

916
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: They're doing a great job.

917
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Talk about New Orleans a little bit. Some veteran guys

918
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: up front, some young guys. Just what you see from

919
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: their defense or I think top eight in points allowed,

920
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: top twelve in total defense. They're fourth in taking the

921
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: football away. I know that's been a point of emphasis

922
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: for your offense after the seven turnovers the last two weeks,

923
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: But just what's.

924
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: Been maybe the one thing that jumped out from New Orleans?

925
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: What do you guys have to be really good at

926
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: upfront this week?

927
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it just kind of comes

928
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 4: down to the details. I think that they have some guys.

929
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: They have like a style of defense that they like

930
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: to play, and I feel like we're you know, we're

931
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: talking about it. We're going about like our preparation and

932
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: a way that I think, can you know, counteract that. Yeah,

933
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Speaker 4: I think that they have, as you said, they have

934
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: some good veteran players along the d line. I also

935
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: feel like they have one of the best linebackers in

936
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: football in to Mario Davis. So, I mean, I think

937
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 4: it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a good game.

938
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, we've played some good fronts this year. We've

939
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: played some good linebackers this year. I think it's gonna

940
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: be uh, you know, as I said, it just comes

941
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: down to the little things in the details, making sure

942
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 4: that you're not overlooking something outside.

943
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: Of the Baltimore game. Why have you guys been so

944
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: good on the road going into that hostel environment? You

945
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: guys played really well on the road. I think this

946
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: comes maybe as a perfect a perfect time for you

947
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: guys to get together go back on the road kind

948
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: of us against them mentality. You guys have had that

949
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: really the whole year. But what makes you guys so

950
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: good on the road?

951
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: I don't know that's a good question.

952
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

953
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Speaker 4: I think it just kind of I think, as I

954
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: said a little bit earlier, kind of about like, especially

955
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: on like the offensive line, how like a lot of

956
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: the guys are experienced and like kind of know what

957
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: they're supposed to do. I feel like if the communication

958
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: is not always like one hundred percent, you're able to

959
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: kind of figure things out on your own, where maybe

960
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: you know, some younger guys might not be able to

961
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: like think about it, you know what I mean. They

962
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 4: might get caught up in the noise or caught up

963
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: in anything else. And I think that our quarterback is

964
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: really good at being loud in the huddle, making sure

965
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: that you know he has the play calls just exactly

966
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: how it came in, and overall I think that just

967
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: kind of probably boils down to experience.

968
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for this week. I know you guys

969
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: are excited to get back at it after kind of

970
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: what happened on Thanksgiving. I'd be really shocked if if

971
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Speaker 1: Jared didn't come out have a good game, you guys

972
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: up front didn't come out and have a good game,

973
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Speaker 1: and you guys score some points offens if you go

974
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: down there, have fun, get a win

975
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Speaker 5: And stayed at the ante North, definitely appreciate you