Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: load glasses alone, He dug.
Speaker 2: My, man, what's happening?
Speaker 1: Woh crazy? I'm on three hours, three hours, three and
Speaker 1: a half hours of sleep. What happened? I I had
Speaker 1: this idea for a film about ninety days ago, and
Speaker 1: somebody else was supposed to write it. Got you shout
Speaker 1: out to unc' unc was supposed to write it and
Speaker 1: he never wrote it. So the idea just start coming
Speaker 1: to me last night. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I just was flooding it out and writing it as
Speaker 1: a synopsis and getting through it. And I looked up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was five thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning, five o'clock or something like that. Man, it
Speaker 1: was crazy. So I was just up, up, up, up,
Speaker 1: up up, writing, writing, writing in my phone, and I
Speaker 1: came out with some dope. I mean, I really liked
Speaker 1: what I came out with, So I ain't got no complaints.
Speaker 1: A good deal, That's that's all that matters. I ain't
Speaker 1: got no complaints. Uh crazy, right, because I'm talking to
Speaker 1: the homie right this morning, right, And this kind of
Speaker 1: slowed me down because I had to get in the shower.
Speaker 1: I had to get in the shower, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to the little homie.
Speaker 3: Key Veil.
Speaker 1: Shout out to KIVI uh, shout out to rontal. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to Ronald, and Ronald is like this huge like
Speaker 1: Tupac fan, Like I mean, die hard Tupac fan. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody love a dead nigga, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They all love a dead nigga, and they love a
Speaker 1: man that passed away, and it's easy to follow him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like yeah, yeah, like Jesus,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, people love when you die,
Speaker 1: and then they could just kind of make what they
Speaker 1: want to out of your legacy exactly.
Speaker 2: They could. They could. They could make you do whatever
Speaker 2: they want and you aren't there to dispute them.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, So Ron does this right? So I got
Speaker 1: a group chat with Ron is is is I consider
Speaker 1: Ron a friend?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean he like him? And Chuck Dizzel Shout out
Speaker 1: to Chuck Dizzel. But Ron and Chuck Dizzel are cousins.
Speaker 1: Chuck Dizzel is my man, honey, grand you feel me?
Speaker 1: That's head man, so that's my man. I ain't hear
Speaker 1: it to Chuck Dizzel, that's my man. Right, So I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I always be telling Ron like the truth, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, man, this is what this is the
Speaker 1: story coming from the people involved. Like so if we
Speaker 1: talked about Tupac, I'm like, yeah, this is like I've
Speaker 1: I've confronted you know what I mean. And I don't
Speaker 1: use it. I don't like the term confront because it
Speaker 1: has a negative connotation. But I've confronted Jimmy Henchman. Game
Speaker 1: will tell you. Game was right there, big faces, right there.
Speaker 1: G Rod was right there. I confronted Jimmy Hinchman on
Speaker 1: Brazil in Compton about his situation with Pop. I remember,
Speaker 1: Chuck looked at me. Game looked at me crazy, like
Speaker 1: why would you ask this man this? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it was going to bother me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because we grew up on poc lure,
Speaker 1: So it would bother me if I didn't ask, you know,
Speaker 1: this man, who this guy I've listened to pretty much
Speaker 1: coming into my whole adult life what he was saying
Speaker 1: about him? And I would tell Ron the information and
Speaker 1: I could tell coming from Jimmy, Like Jimmy was thorough
Speaker 1: about it. He wasn't making it tougher or weaker or
Speaker 1: none of what it had to be. I knew Jimmy
Speaker 1: Henchman was telling me the truth.
Speaker 2: At this time.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hinchman is managing the game. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hinchman and Delaney McGill, they're managing Gang, They're managing Chuck.
Speaker 1: So I asked him and he broke it down. And
Speaker 1: I would pass this information to Ron because I know
Speaker 1: Ron is a die hard Tupac stand right here, a fan,
Speaker 1: he a stand and even like somebody like Haitian Jack,
Speaker 1: like I met Haitian Jack when I first got in
Speaker 1: the business, because real street dudes connect soon as like
Speaker 1: soon as you get into business and people verify that
Speaker 1: you really from the soil, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: people connect with you like so like Haitian Jack was
Speaker 1: one of the first people. Haitian Jack linked me with
Speaker 1: White Cliffs, you know what I mean, like like and
Speaker 1: it was all love. And I was able to ask
Speaker 1: Haitian Jack straight up, like Nigga, I had to know
Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, I'm from Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I'm from California. Tupockets is the president around this motherfucker
Speaker 1: to some degree, you know what I'm saying. So to
Speaker 1: hear their stories, and you could tell, Bro, I've been
Speaker 1: in the streets long enough, even back then, to know
Speaker 1: when somebody's putting extras on, when they line, when they hide.
Speaker 1: They were telling the truth, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that was happening was really misunderstandings. And to me,
Speaker 1: more of Potner's being a bit young and naive to things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was he was
Speaker 1: a baby. He was like he won, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was a little dude. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: would pass the information to run even the shit that
Speaker 1: happened with Pop dying, you know what I'm saying, Even
Speaker 1: with what happened with Pop dying, right, and the whole
Speaker 1: situation with the south Side is getting into it with
Speaker 1: some of the hommies and all of that, like different hummies.
Speaker 1: And I told Ron, like out of Freaky Dre restling,
Speaker 1: Peace shout out to Dre Dre. So they called him
Speaker 1: Big Dre, But niggas in the streets was calling him
Speaker 1: freaky j I don't know if he changes, but that's
Speaker 1: what niggas called him. Dre was a ball and ass
Speaker 1: nigga from South and he was a solid dude. Dre
Speaker 1: booked me for like my fifth show ever in my
Speaker 1: rap career, you know what I'm saying, Like when I
Speaker 1: was trying to change my life. He gave me four
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to come perform at a house party, you know,
Speaker 1: in Compton at these mansions, right, So it was Hella
Speaker 1: dope And I remember asking Drake. You know, I just
Speaker 1: grew up around some dudes where you asked what you
Speaker 1: want to know? I don't fuck who it was, So
Speaker 1: I was able to ask these dudes. I knew who
Speaker 1: Keithy was. My mom knew who Keify was, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was able to you know,
Speaker 1: and then being a gang banger at the time, like
Speaker 1: you knew what happened. So to make a long story short,
Speaker 1: I'm passing the information to Run. I'm like Ron, you know,
Speaker 1: here's the information, bro, Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like here it is like we you know, everybody knows
Speaker 1: what happened to Tupac at this point, Like there's no secret,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the information is out there. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of conspiracy theories, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of conspiracy theories. But we all know
Speaker 1: what happened to Tupac, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: it's up to you to think if he was right
Speaker 1: or wrong. I personally think he was right. If you
Speaker 1: ride with the people, with these people, your friends, especially
Speaker 1: in his situation where them people got him out of
Speaker 1: jail and they embraced him and he embraced them. I
Speaker 1: do not think of nothing is wrong with Tupac jumping
Speaker 1: off the ledge, you know what I mean, jumping off
Speaker 1: the ledge, like if somebody that looked out for me
Speaker 1: that I was a friend of mine and I don't
Speaker 1: care if I know him for ninety days, who I
Speaker 1: am is who I am. And I felt like that
Speaker 1: was the same thing about Pac, where he was who
Speaker 1: he was. It wasn't about nothing else besides he embracing
Speaker 1: this dude in these in this movement, and he's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this dude did what to you. Let me go. I'm
Speaker 1: finna go get at him. That's that's a rider thing
Speaker 1: to do. That's a rider thing to do. Bro, That's
Speaker 1: hell a rider. So I got the utmost respect for Pop.
Speaker 1: Now Ron feels like Pop was too smart, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he would have never not involved in that, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: the problem is and with that, when you see gangs
Speaker 1: as this silly, dumb thing, the relationship you know amongst
Speaker 1: poor people, that camaraderie, if you see it as stupid,
Speaker 1: then no, you will never understand what Pop did because
Speaker 1: in most human beings minds, because they cowards and their
Speaker 1: chicken shit, they felt like us Pac had money or
Speaker 1: you know, he was worth money, that he should have
Speaker 1: never said nothing involved. That ain't how it worked when
Speaker 1: you come up from these ghettos and you really so,
Speaker 1: I think Pak was genuinely doing what he was supposed
Speaker 1: to do. And I also understand that, you know, they
Speaker 1: gotta protect their reputation too. I totally understand, and it's
Speaker 1: an unfortunate situation. That's the truth. But I'm telling Ron,
Speaker 1: and Ron is telling me he bene made up in
Speaker 1: his mind that yeah, well you know, they said, baby,
Speaker 1: they ain't try to snatch his chain outside the casino
Speaker 1: like another chain. And I'm like, bro, like, you gotta
Speaker 1: stop making shit up. And that's the whole point of
Speaker 1: this conversation about j Cole Duck and the smoke, like
Speaker 1: I am tired of niggas making shit up. Like I
Speaker 1: get it. We are in the entertainment business. We are entertaining,
Speaker 1: and that's true and entertainment, bro, people will tell phibs.
Speaker 1: They will tell phibs. That's part of entertaining. But when
Speaker 1: you tell phibs that are rooted in reality, it can
Speaker 1: have dire consequence. Dire consequence, like I'm telling him, like
Speaker 1: you're saying, first off, if he takes POC, if he
Speaker 1: attempts to take Pot's jury outside of the casino and
Speaker 1: Pot got people who stopped him the first time, they
Speaker 1: would have jumped on him the first time. But it's
Speaker 1: just stuff that don't make sense. But they create this YouTube, lord,
Speaker 1: in this conspiracy theory, you feel me, and people live
Speaker 1: and die by it. They don't even care about what
Speaker 1: makes sense. He don't even care. It just bothers him
Speaker 1: that Pot could have lost his life and something that
Speaker 1: he feels is stupid. And I get it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It does gang banging on the outside
Speaker 1: pe to people who don't know even you know, you
Speaker 1: have been closer. You got me, you got Malcolm, you
Speaker 1: got people that can articulate the real relationship outside of you,
Speaker 1: and enough you know, you hung around to see why
Speaker 1: people fuck with each other. Yeah, but there's a weird space,
Speaker 1: bro where people don't get that. They just really feel
Speaker 1: like it's about some colors or some bandanas or some
Speaker 1: you know, street sign or property people don't own.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think also like with this, people look
Speaker 5: at it like, you know, because of the position that
Speaker 5: he's in, that that the two.
Speaker 2: Things aren't as closely bound to one another. So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have say the world by the tail, you know,
Speaker 2: so to speak. You're young, rich and famous, so you
Speaker 2: have options, you know, choices are at your discretion at
Speaker 2: that point. But what in it's basic you know, Cornerstone
Speaker 2: got you young, rich and famous. You know, it's who
Speaker 2: you are and how you were shaped and what's around
Speaker 2: you and your ability to be a part of be
Speaker 2: associated with the culture and that lifestyle enough to be
Speaker 2: able to transmit it artistically to masses. And we're back
Speaker 2: in the circle again, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: it's like it's not too dissimilar to like when you
Speaker 2: would see like a boxer get into a fight somewhere well,
Speaker 2: he's famous as being a boxer because he fights. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's good at fighting. He was good at fighting and
Speaker 2: that's probably, honestly maybe part of how he got into box.
Speaker 1: Oh man. And so just telling people bringing clarity because
Speaker 1: you really have to, like you're fighting their ignorance, right,
Speaker 1: even somebody like Ron who grew up right smack dead
Speaker 1: in the center of the culture. Sure you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, but he wasn't a part of it. I
Speaker 1: go through this with problem. Like I was talking about
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Speaker 1: your podcasts right. So, again we're gonna get into this
Speaker 1: j Cole thing, but just bear with me because I
Speaker 1: gotta show you why that's important that we have these conversations.
Speaker 1: And even with my young homie Ron, shout out to
Speaker 1: everybody in the chat, shout out to do be twying Max,
Speaker 1: Shout out to steal who haven't Internet problems he can't
Speaker 1: get on. Shout out to leather Face, Shout out to
Speaker 1: Dee what's having his squishy Welcome back. I love you, sister.
Speaker 1: We are glad you here. We will definitely have a
Speaker 1: barbecue just because you be here. My boy kiv Our
Speaker 1: Burden was heading west La special Ed was cracking name brand,
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. My boy Sean was haddening. Yes,
Speaker 1: we back up in this thing, cuz so long story short.
Speaker 1: I'm telling Ron and I'm like Ryan, bro like, ignore
Speaker 1: all of that silliness going on, bro, Like, stop looking
Speaker 1: at that. I don't give a fuck with none of them.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you exactly what happened. Like, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: insight from the people that it happened with. I'm outside
Speaker 1: of the fact that's my era. I'm inhigh school when
Speaker 1: I'm gangbanging in nineteen ninety five and ninety six. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm off the porch. I mean, I'm still high school,
Speaker 1: but I'm active. So you're hearing the gang the thing
Speaker 1: about being a gang members. You hear about what's going
Speaker 1: on in everybody else's community. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And most people don't know this. Yeah, I'm from Seventh Street,
Speaker 1: Wats and my father raised me and watched. But my
Speaker 1: mother also raised me in Compton. I lived in Compton
Speaker 1: half of my life, so my ties there are deep,
Speaker 1: but gang bagging travels. So all of this stuff was
Speaker 1: happening in real time. Like the squab we at the
Speaker 1: Lakewood Mall. We knew about that right after it happened. Everybody.
Speaker 1: We used to call the Lakewood Mall the terror Dome
Speaker 1: because different gangs would go there pete to get in fights.
Speaker 1: It was all about proving again, poor people try to
Speaker 1: prove superiority at the most primitive levels. And it's a fight,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So people was fighting, and
Speaker 1: so we heard about the fight, how the fight happened.
Speaker 1: People think the fight, you know that that stimulated the
Speaker 1: situation that Tupac died over was over a chain. That's
Speaker 1: not true. It was over a misunderstanding in a situation
Speaker 1: between two separate gangs. The chain is just in that
Speaker 1: lay thing. Any of y'all in this chaff from La
Speaker 1: y'all know, if you get into a fight, y'all haven't
Speaker 1: been to the clubs in Hollywood. You get into a
Speaker 1: fight with enough people, the first thing people do in
Speaker 1: the middle of that fight is start reaching for jury.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's just an LA thing to do.
Speaker 1: It's just an LA thing to do. Like you be
Speaker 1: fighting and next thing you know, somebody reaching for your jury.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons I don't wear jury. Way
Speaker 1: before I was a rapper and was getting to some
Speaker 1: millions of dollars, I wasn't wearing no jury because where
Speaker 1: I'm from, that's the first thing everybody reached for in
Speaker 1: the middle of a fight. So I'm not giving nobody nothing,
Speaker 1: not a damn thing. But the point I'm making is
Speaker 1: back to Ron. I'm telling man, I'm like, Ron, look, Bro,
Speaker 1: this is what happened. I get it, and you want
Speaker 1: to in your mind, you believe pac was superior and
Speaker 1: he was the greatest thinker, and he would dare not
Speaker 1: be a part of this community and press this line
Speaker 1: and it's like you wrong, bro, pressing lines. He was
Speaker 1: a line presser. Pak was an habitual line presser. He
Speaker 1: pressed lines for whoever he was with. Anybody like that's
Speaker 1: what a solid one? Do you press your line? If
Speaker 1: I'm with some of my partners from West La I'm
Speaker 1: a press a line. If we together, Bro, I'm anna
Speaker 1: press a line. I don't give a fuck if it
Speaker 1: don't got nothing to do. We together. Now, some you know,
Speaker 1: suburban people think that's ignorance, Pete. If me and you
Speaker 1: somewhere Newport Beach, bro, and a man and a couple
Speaker 1: of men get up in your face doing too much,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if they from Huntington Beach
Speaker 1: or if they from Coast Amazon, they getting punched. That's
Speaker 1: just how these streets raise us. To press a line
Speaker 1: with the people you with, standing with the people you with.
Speaker 1: So if we're somewhere somewhere Newport Beach, you better tell
Speaker 1: me they family. You better be like g you know what,
Speaker 1: don't punch them. I know we arguing, don't because I
Speaker 1: am looking to punch them niggas. That's how Pluck raised me,
Speaker 1: That's how Shady raised me. That's how Moon raised me.
Speaker 1: Punched them niggas. So again, I'm sure Tupac has the
Speaker 1: same raising. You don't got to be from a crip
Speaker 1: or pi root gang to be raised that way. You
Speaker 1: just raised the streets, you with the people you with.
Speaker 1: Pop was with them and them dudes just got him
Speaker 1: out of jail. Sug just got him out of.
Speaker 2: Jail, and that I don't even blame Sugar. To me,
Speaker 2: that is the only hypothetical party that ourl Monday Morning
Speaker 2: quarterback is the executive group, which was still young guys.
Speaker 2: You know what I like, retrospectively speaking like Sug and
Speaker 2: whoever else is in that sea level suite quote unquote
Speaker 2: needed to do a better job of defying that line
Speaker 2: rigidly and say, hey, you guys, you're here because of
Speaker 2: what we have going on. Make sure that he doesn't
Speaker 2: start to think he's a part of what you have
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. I don't think that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And this is being signed to cash money, right, I
Speaker 1: get I'm all in right, I totally get it. I'm
Speaker 1: not acting like I don't get it. I'm not acting
Speaker 1: like I don't get it right. I totally understand said
Speaker 1: point right, But what happens is right. What happens is
Speaker 1: what happens is right. Is like when I'm with Baby,
Speaker 1: I'm signed to cash money records right in my prime,
Speaker 1: I'm a gang banging I'm in my prime. I didn't
Speaker 1: bust niggas head fuck with Baby I was trying to
Speaker 1: rush other niggas fucking with baby because we're together. So
Speaker 1: if something happens to you, it makes me look crazy.
Speaker 1: Like when that situation happened in Hollywood. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: what a homies ran up on their car, spotted and
Speaker 1: ran up on their car. That made me look stupid
Speaker 1: because you with me, asks how the streets raise you.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the level of you know, of pride.
Speaker 1: You carry yourself when you come from the corner, you
Speaker 1: look at it like you know what the streets raised you? Right,
Speaker 1: So you you you, you do your thing. And and
Speaker 1: there was times that I understood that I can't let
Speaker 1: them look bad. Them dudes are street dudes just like me.
Speaker 1: They've just been millionaires a lot longer than I.
Speaker 3: Had way, yes, I remember, right, And so I got
Speaker 3: to go with a gun.
Speaker 1: My hommy's going and I'm tripping, and if bird doesn't
Speaker 1: calm me down, then you know what I mean, It's
Speaker 1: a different situation because them, the dudes that did it,
Speaker 1: is my partners. But it's like y'all making me look stupid,
Speaker 1: and you can't make me look weak. That's how you
Speaker 1: carry yourself in the streets and POC had that lesson.
Speaker 1: Don't have nothing to do with him being from my
Speaker 1: piru or like that was another argument. I'm like, course
Speaker 1: he was banging the mob. Of course he was pressing
Speaker 1: them up. He got songs saying long Beach and Rosecrans.
Speaker 1: He started saying map like, of course he with them.
Speaker 1: They just got him out of prison. He's triple platinum
Speaker 1: these niggas, is my guys. I'm finna go all the
Speaker 1: way for these dudes. What do you I was just
Speaker 1: sitting in prison eight months ago. Yeah, I'm finna go.
Speaker 1: Twan shout out to my boy Twin Mat shout out
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Speaker 1: on this video. Twan, if I make you a millionaire, Twin,
Speaker 1: you my boy, Twin, thank you for coming back on
Speaker 1: this Friday. Twin, I'll make you right you twying you up.
Speaker 1: You got a whole movement built on positivity. It's a
Speaker 1: dulkin temporary hip hop. You don't even it ain't even
Speaker 1: the music, You're like, nah gee, the messaging even gotta
Speaker 1: make some sense. I can't just let these dudes get
Speaker 1: up in here with this music, right, and then the
Speaker 1: messaging don't make sense. Like that's how stringeent you are
Speaker 1: on behavior, kwan. If I make you a millionaire, imagine twine,
Speaker 1: you get caught up as shit. You got ten years,
Speaker 1: I come bail you out, give you a triple platinum album.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting one hundred two hundred thousand a month.
Speaker 1: You on fire. We in a we somewhere in a mall.
Speaker 1: Let's say your hits, funks and everything, find you back
Speaker 1: to normal. And I'm like, man, that was a dude
Speaker 1: that jumped me. You don't think you gonna move.
Speaker 4: First of all, shouts out to Peak, shouts out still,
Speaker 4: shouts out to Seventh Street that pot thank you. But yeah,
Speaker 4: we gotta saying. We gotta saying in Milwaukee TTG train
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 1: Bro dam Like say that too.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get get on when you get mad at bro.
Speaker 4: Like if you you you playing game with somebody that
Speaker 4: I love and you putting them in a in a
Speaker 4: in a a in a strange situation, and there's another
Speaker 4: thing that we say, whether you're right or wrong, we'll
Speaker 4: deal with that later.
Speaker 1: That's later. Still, still, we've been boys for twenty years.
Speaker 1: I've been your little brok twenty years. Imagine over the
Speaker 1: next nine months, I gotta go. Imagine over the next
Speaker 1: nine months, I make you a millionaire, Like the idea
Speaker 1: comes to and now you're a millionaire or you up rightonaire,
Speaker 1: I'm not, but I'm saying mine is just our real relationship.
Speaker 1: I make you a millionaire too, Like it's pp it,
Speaker 1: I make you a millionaire. Somebody that we were in
Speaker 1: the mall and somebody just brush what you gonna do?
Speaker 1: It's on and crack, yeah it gotta be. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that later. Bro, your life. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this dude I'm close. I don't been in situations
Speaker 1: where dude didn't even know that I was with him
Speaker 1: and he started reaching.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, bro, don't like, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Want to get real bad?
Speaker 4: Don't do that. Bro Like, don't don't do that. Man Like, please,
Speaker 4: don't do that. The whole time, I'm thinking about going
Speaker 4: back to the joint. But then the whole time, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking he might up, he might up a switch and
Speaker 4: kill all of us. So I gotta get to him first,
Speaker 4: So shout out.
Speaker 1: To the homie. Everybody in the chat, make sure y'all
Speaker 1: check in so I know you in there West of
Speaker 1: Lake specially thanks for rocking fast. What's having it, Claire?
Speaker 1: I see you in here, Sean, everybody. So again, back
Speaker 1: to the point I'm making with Ron before it leads
Speaker 1: into the conversation that we're supposed to have. That's the
Speaker 1: point where where when people are allowed to redirect the
Speaker 1: narrative with silly shit, like where the homie is like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, baby, they ain't tried to snatch Tupac's chain
Speaker 1: out in front of the casino. I'm like, bro, that
Speaker 1: did not happen. First off, they were the rusting right
Speaker 1: then and there. It's a different conversation. But because he
Speaker 1: struggles to understand why Pop reacted with that sense of loyalty,
Speaker 1: which which makes me realize how many people now my man,
Speaker 1: Ron ain't no pussy. But again when he acts like
Speaker 1: he don't get it, it makes me think weird, Like,
Speaker 1: so you don't understand why Tupac just was in prison
Speaker 1: at that time, probably eleven months ago, like in prison
Speaker 1: with a double platinum record in prison. Now he's out
Speaker 1: with the biggest records of his career and everything and
Speaker 1: an army and you don't think he gonna sold your
Speaker 1: up for this. You crazy these dudes everything, but but
Speaker 1: but let me, let me, let me, let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me finish. I got you still drivers right there.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you don't get it. But when he
Speaker 1: redirected the narrative of like, oh well, no he tried to,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you don't need to do that, right,
Speaker 1: You don't need to redirect the narrative. You can have
Speaker 1: this narrative and it still makes sense. And that's my
Speaker 1: issue with j Cole. Bro don't get on these fucking
Speaker 1: records were twenty five minutes in. Still don't get on
Speaker 1: these records, right, don't get on these records and start lying.
Speaker 1: Stop acting like you were so worried about losing your friend.
Speaker 1: Don't get on these records acting like you would win
Speaker 1: a battle with these two dudes, either one of these dudes.
Speaker 1: Don't get on these records trying to redirect the narrative.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to stroke. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: what it was. Ja Cole could always wrap, but don't
Speaker 1: try to put vinegar in your pin. When ain't nobody
Speaker 1: cooking greens no more? They was just cooking greens.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 1: Now you now you got vinegar in your pin. Your
Speaker 1: pin af spicy. You just had a moment that you infused.
Speaker 1: You was a part of the reason that this moment happened.
Speaker 1: You was the reason that they was in the kitchen
Speaker 1: having a green cook off in the first place. And
Speaker 1: it was time to let the vinegar come out of
Speaker 1: your pin. Bro it was time to let the vinegar
Speaker 1: come out. Get spicy.
Speaker 4: But what do you have to add though?
Speaker 2: What Jake call is a sugar greens kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Though he just needs to understand that he's a cabbage.
Speaker 4: He puts sugar on gricks.
Speaker 1: She got everybody puts sugar on It's the only way
Speaker 1: the grisly season grits only season grids with salt and pepper.
Speaker 3: Maybe y'all know, Maybe it's something what he done and
Speaker 3: j Cole good.
Speaker 1: Friends, d It's not the point again, being friends in
Speaker 1: a battle is not the point. J Cole has a
Speaker 1: history of saying shit about wanting to compete. He has
Speaker 1: a history of talking about what his pen would do
Speaker 1: to other MC's. That's how you found these twin Is
Speaker 1: is exactly the opposite. Twan is not talking in his
Speaker 1: raps about wrapping against other gods. J Cole's whole premise
Speaker 1: is built on rapping against other gods.
Speaker 2: This is the perfect meme opportunity. We need to put
Speaker 2: Kendrick's face on Deebo's body, and then the guy who
Speaker 2: gets punched in the face is Drake, and then j
Speaker 2: Coles the guy who picks up I don't know how
Speaker 2: you come down here messing around with these people and
Speaker 2: puts the back of the car and drops.
Speaker 1: So that's what should have been. That should have been
Speaker 1: the thumb nail anyway. So I'm like, okay, Like, I look,
Speaker 1: I am not one that tries to watch and fight.
Speaker 1: I do not encourage people to fight. I do not
Speaker 1: encourage people to fight. If you are not a fighter,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, look, stand up for yourself or go
Speaker 1: the other way. Right. So I'm not saying I want
Speaker 1: to see rappers rap against each other. You feel me.
Speaker 1: I do not say I want to see rappers rap
Speaker 1: against each other. Bro. That don't even make sense. That
Speaker 1: ain't my style, bro, I'm not tripping. What my issue
Speaker 1: is is when you keep talking spicy when everything you
Speaker 1: are doing is spicy, Why are you talking spicy? Okay,
Speaker 1: before the battle start? You on a first person shooter
Speaker 1: that starts the battle, that actually orchestrates the battle, right,
Speaker 1: that orchestrates the battle? You talking spicy? You ain't you
Speaker 1: tired of being two and three? First off? Why would
Speaker 1: you say that to you know that it's a competitive
Speaker 1: thing to say you you're talking competitively, right. Then you
Speaker 1: say something, you say somebody of line ship. The homies
Speaker 1: hear you saying somebody of line ship. So he give
Speaker 1: you a love You know, I'm shit. He gives you
Speaker 1: a love on like that. You don't want to play
Speaker 1: like that. This ain't what you want cold, This ain't
Speaker 1: what you want, Tim Duncan. This is different.
Speaker 4: Why you gotta bring big fundamentals into this?
Speaker 1: That's big, he's that, he's that great. Jake Cole is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest. He's an A plus rapper.
Speaker 4: But big fundamentals in there. I used to poke the bear.
Speaker 1: A little small shit and do ship man, big fund
Speaker 1: just say it and say ship like off the glass
Speaker 1: good ship again. Fundamentally he is Tim Duncan. Fundamentally it's nice, right,
Speaker 1: But listen that's not the point. You made me look
Speaker 1: so but you popping it, You popping it. You popping
Speaker 1: it at another level, you can't say he not that
Speaker 1: type of rapper if you popping it. If you popping it,
Speaker 1: you that type of rapper. So then like that, he
Speaker 1: returns the competitive love, right, the competitive love you asked for.
Speaker 1: And you go four flaged missiles, guns blazing, You pull
Speaker 1: out the seven minute drill. Then you put out the
Speaker 1: Pie Song, which is really a disc and you were
Speaker 1: slick and deban because you wouldn't put some of his
Speaker 1: old friends on there. You wouldn't put soul on there,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't put you feel Me Daylight on there. See it.
Speaker 1: Everybody in the MC enough to know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I know what you're doing. When you did Pie, I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. Nigga, I know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Like I get it. So you was popping it and
Speaker 1: then you realize this ain't what I want. And you
Speaker 1: know why this ain't what you want because in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind, there's a chance somebody gonna say
Speaker 1: something that's devastating. Yeah, that's devastating. They're gonna say something
Speaker 1: to you that's devastating.
Speaker 4: Because the gloves is off, it's all.
Speaker 1: And so once you hit me in my face, you
Speaker 1: touched it. Oh man, I don't want to fight. I
Speaker 1: don't want to fight. And the homie like after you
Speaker 1: hit him in the face with the punch, and you
Speaker 1: did that little dog ass, dirty ass sneak shit by
Speaker 1: dissing the homie on the song and they're putting the
Speaker 1: homies on the song with a little piece of shit ass. Jay,
Speaker 1: you know what you did, nigga.
Speaker 4: I know it.
Speaker 1: You adult nigga, So I know what you're doing. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't think soling them with a new that when
Speaker 1: they go no, because they not tripping. They they his
Speaker 1: verses was on the song. They he did his verse last.
Speaker 1: You know, I got at the homies and ask them
Speaker 1: shut at to a soul who got an amazing song
Speaker 1: that dropped today. Make sure y'all check that out. I
Speaker 1: got it then, like I asked the homies and they
Speaker 1: didn't hear his verse. So you did it on some
Speaker 1: chicken shit shit. That was really some chicken shit shit, Jay, Jermaine,
Speaker 1: that was chicken shit. And then once you hit the
Speaker 1: hommy in his face or behind his back, like how
Speaker 1: you did it, you pulled it back. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, went on the stage. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay,
Speaker 1: Really everybody should have called you a buster ass nigga
Speaker 1: right when it happened, because I was some buster ass shit.
Speaker 1: You hit a nigga, then you don't want him to
Speaker 1: hit you back, right, that's just some buster shit. It
Speaker 1: ain't saying you ain't dope. It ain't said J Cole.
Speaker 1: You ain't don't want to do with that, none of that.
Speaker 1: Cause you still nice, bro, You still dope. You still
Speaker 1: wanted the best. But you also a sucker for that, right,
Speaker 1: and and and all the people who love you, right,
Speaker 1: all the people who love you start making excuses cause
Speaker 1: ain't like, oh, well you know he's bigger than that,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do that. That's not him. No, no, yes, no,
Speaker 1: he's not this nigga, a regular nigga. He fucked bitches
Speaker 1: like every other nigga would have. Dick ain't nothing no
Speaker 1: different than cuz. Right. So but anyway, we let you
Speaker 1: have that, niggas, let your name go. And then them
Speaker 1: two Titans went at it, and my young Waye put
Speaker 1: hands on Drake, beating like he stole something like he
Speaker 1: was supposed to, Like he's been taught his whole life to.
Speaker 1: That's what that would have been prepared for this moment.
Speaker 1: They had one good record. He got his ass whooked
Speaker 1: and like he's opposed to and like he's opposed to
Speaker 1: because this little nigga been training. We've been sparred verbally
Speaker 1: this whole time. He been doing it before I met
Speaker 1: him and said, tinyo. He was doing it when I
Speaker 1: met him, when he graduated. He's been preparing for this
Speaker 1: moment his whole.
Speaker 3: Life, you know what, that whole life, bro. I think
Speaker 3: that for him, this was a fantasy come true.
Speaker 1: Yes, I get to prove it. I get to prove
Speaker 1: I'm better than everybody. This is what this little nigga does. Okay,
Speaker 1: so move forward, right, So they squab it out. We
Speaker 1: forget you had something to do with it. They squabble
Speaker 1: it out like you didn't start it, or like you
Speaker 1: didn't hit Cuds in the head in the middle of
Speaker 1: a fight. But we let you get it off. Then
Speaker 1: you try to wait after the fight, you put out
Speaker 1: a couple other records and realize them records ain't working
Speaker 1: because we really the jig is up. On your bullshit,
Speaker 1: and then you try to come back and talk spicy.
Speaker 1: Then you tried to come back and talk spicy like
Speaker 1: what you would have did if you would have you
Speaker 1: would have did ship.
Speaker 3: But maybe.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I hate that stupid I hate Noah.
Speaker 1: Let Now you're a grown ass man nigga. That's some
Speaker 1: buster assh you You let North Carolina damn doing that
Speaker 1: punk ass ship, and then you come back with the
Speaker 1: song and you're trying to read write the narrative. You're
Speaker 1: trying to rewrite the narrative. You trying to act like
Speaker 1: you didn't do the ship. You did, like you took
Speaker 1: the high road. You didn't take the high road. You
Speaker 1: realize you could get your ass whooped in this fight.
Speaker 1: That's what it is, and I'm not going to let
Speaker 1: you rewrite the narrative. Shout out to everybody in the
Speaker 1: chats blowing that ship up. Marcel's sub Vine was heading
Speaker 1: Scherise was haddening west of l a special led two
Speaker 1: K grind. Frank, what's Hadden in? Coach Frank? These niggas
Speaker 1: is trying to rewrite the narrative, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to let him. I don't give a fuck the homie
Speaker 1: Pun shout out to a boy Pun who do the
Speaker 1: community right and and and Ace boys worldwide tonight one
Speaker 1: of the best streams out the West ever. I'm so
Speaker 1: proud of them. Niggas. He tried to tell me that
Speaker 1: Cole was dope. Send me the song. Cole is dope.
Speaker 1: I put. I don't know why you front. I'm not front.
Speaker 1: I'm not front j Cole Ben taty Ti. We passed that,
Speaker 1: but yes, what I see was back. I'm not biased.
Speaker 1: Sitting in his own I love, but I'm a real
Speaker 1: don't have none to do with He's a fucking duck.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna hip hop. I'm hip hop anlys yeh.
Speaker 3: I thought it was some such ship him dugging out
Speaker 3: the battle. But the new record is dope. Though it
Speaker 3: ain't dope because you lying on the record.
Speaker 1: You acting like you was on some schmoke or you
Speaker 1: or you got vinegar in your pincus when it ain't
Speaker 1: nothing in there but kool aid. Bro. Don't do that now,
Speaker 1: be the same uprighteous nigga you was after you punched
Speaker 1: the home in the back of his head. Try to
Speaker 1: act like you didn't. Don't try to give them back
Speaker 1: when no motherfucking with no motherfucker vinegar and your pen now, bro,
Speaker 1: because when it was time to season the greens, your
Speaker 1: whole ass back up. I'm not killing him, not what
Speaker 1: I mean, because he's not a whole and and and
Speaker 1: I'm passionate forgive me. They go crazy the chat glasses,
Speaker 1: they're both for them. I don't. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: disrespect you because I'm not calling you your actions. Your
Speaker 1: actions are disrespectable. He he's a he's a respectable talent.
Speaker 1: He's an incredible talent. He's better than me, Bro Like
Speaker 1: he's an incredible talent. He's dope. But that's some buster
Speaker 1: or ass shit to do. How you do that bust
Speaker 1: or ass shit with?
Speaker 4: Just say glasses?
Speaker 1: He went like this, No that what's crazy is he
Speaker 1: really punched cousin the back of his head, got his
Speaker 1: homies to pack him out. Really wentn't lied to the
Speaker 1: homie like you did some all the way sucker shit,
Speaker 1: even going to put them boys on the song that
Speaker 1: you're talking about the homie with, trying to cause dissension
Speaker 1: amongst us. You know what I'm saying. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: know what you did I know what you I know
Speaker 1: what he was doing. Still I'm not gonna lie and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie on that man. I say I
Speaker 1: care for my words, like like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: reference him as a whole ass man. That action is
Speaker 1: some whole ass shit. You then did all of this shit.
Speaker 1: You didn't got all this punk ass shit going. You
Speaker 1: try to take off on a homie and do all
Speaker 1: this show bullshit, and then when it was time for
Speaker 1: you to stand there with throw you apologize and people
Speaker 1: try to act like you was honorable. You not, bro,
Speaker 1: But we let you get that off and I let
Speaker 1: it go. I let it go. I let it go, bro,
Speaker 1: I let it go until today until right now where
Speaker 1: you trying to come back and act like you got
Speaker 1: vinegar in your pen.
Speaker 3: For you know what the problem is, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what the problem is. The problem is you
Speaker 3: let nas down.
Speaker 4: I'm done with you.
Speaker 1: I'm done. Ain't you know what problem is? I'm done
Speaker 1: with you? Still shout out then Dollards on the super
Speaker 1: Chat that's player Geno. I love you, counted in the house.
Speaker 4: Baby type shit.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that dog. So I'm really careful with why I
Speaker 1: handle that man legacy. I'm not trying to just insult him,
Speaker 1: but I am definitely not going to let him rewrite
Speaker 1: the narrative. You're not going to rewrite the narrative. You
Speaker 1: not gonna act like you could fuck with either one
Speaker 1: of these two niggas. You can't fuck with the karate
Speaker 1: Master or the Owl because because when it was time
Speaker 1: to let the vinegar leak out your pen, feel me,
Speaker 1: you got the sugar. You picked up the sugar and
Speaker 1: start pouring sugar in the dreaming and everybody trying to
Speaker 1: eat it. Tell me, I taste sugar and greens don't work.
Speaker 1: Don't why sugars do work though?
Speaker 4: Don't?
Speaker 2: That's terrible.
Speaker 3: You gotta put teapoons sugar steal?
Speaker 2: Can you get steel out of their place? In coherence? Obviously?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just doing the homie saying stuff. There's nothing
Speaker 1: he tried to pour. He tried to put sugar instead
Speaker 1: of vinegar.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to had a couple of teaspoons of sugar in, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: You ain't supposed to have a bunch of sugar.
Speaker 2: His greens is sweet, not supposed to be sweet.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take now.
Speaker 3: If you taste the sugar, you did something wrong.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take an excerpt of this of this podcast.
Speaker 4: We're still say I know where he went wrong. He
Speaker 4: let Noads down.
Speaker 1: That's the fucking clip. But the point I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: that man and he still hold the straight.
Speaker 4: Still because that was.
Speaker 1: Look. I'm upset with his action, but I'm not for
Speaker 1: to do it still doing. Let me focus on the action.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that letting nods damn song. That ship
Speaker 1: was lame as fuck to me. But you know that's
Speaker 1: that suburban sho I don't know what the fuck is
Speaker 1: going on. I don't give scar Face is my hero,
Speaker 1: but I don't give a fuck. If I let Cus
Speaker 1: down Seventh Street. Feel me like, I'm not making no song.
Speaker 1: I let Face down, I let Jake down, I let
Speaker 1: Dog down.
Speaker 4: Nigga glasses. I'm a big fan of a of a
Speaker 4: TV series, Boardwalk Empire. It's about It's about I love
Speaker 4: that show. It's about Lucky al Capone when they was
Speaker 4: just babies. It it takes you back to when Arnold
Speaker 4: Rothstein actually fixed the nineteen nineteen World series. All I
Speaker 4: have to say this is the main character is a dude
Speaker 4: named Nuckie Thompson e Enough Thompson, and he had an
Speaker 4: understudy named Jimmy Dormidy. And Jimmy Dormody told h because
Speaker 4: Nucky wanted to be the city treasurer for Atlantic City,
Speaker 4: but then he wanted to be a gangster too, and
Speaker 4: he wound up falling off into against the world. But
Speaker 4: there was a point when Jimmy Darmody toldy man, you
Speaker 4: can't be half a gangster man. You can't be half
Speaker 4: a gangster. And in this case with j Cole, you
Speaker 4: can't stick your toe in the water and act like
Speaker 4: you're swimming and then when the piranhas come to the
Speaker 4: edge and come bite your motherfucker toe off. Now all
Speaker 4: of a sudden you want to be back on dry
Speaker 4: land again.
Speaker 2: Put for all la cinematic historians out there, you can't
Speaker 2: ask to get out of the car after you shoot
Speaker 2: out of the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, he didn't. Well, I'm gonna tell you and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you get that. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Quishy to squeeze crush Field nine ninety nine on that
Speaker 1: super chat much love, please y'all hit them super chats
Speaker 1: if you thank you lunch on Pete, we were eating today.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Still, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: let you do that. I'm gonna tell you why, because
Speaker 1: if he didn't shoot the gun, if he didn't shoot
Speaker 1: the gun, I would agree with you if he would have,
Speaker 1: if he would have showed and was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not finna get on this, nigga like that, I'm not.
Speaker 2: He drove the car to the parking lot by the
Speaker 2: crush off Mall.
Speaker 1: They already got asked to get out of the car. No,
Speaker 1: they already shot the guns.
Speaker 4: That's what they.
Speaker 2: Let me out on the way back.
Speaker 4: They hadn't killed anybody yet.
Speaker 1: Of course he shot the gun. What are you talking?
Speaker 1: They shot got.
Speaker 6: You're right, I was thinking about Trey. It's fan he
Speaker 6: is right now talking about. Oh if you have the
Speaker 6: car after they shot the guy at the.
Speaker 1: Burgers, what you say? It's fans of seven Minute Drill.
Speaker 1: People think like, oh, he shot at him, he hit
Speaker 1: him twice. Seven Minute Drill and Pie are both disrespects.
Speaker 1: Pie is a piece of ship record because you put
Speaker 1: his friends on the record and then you rap the
Speaker 1: song this in him. That's even worse. Nigga. You ain't
Speaker 1: you not kosher, bro, you not a Jewish meal, fool.
Speaker 1: You not kosher. That ship you did ain't kosher. And
Speaker 1: you apologize and ain't kosher. You not kosher? Dog, You
Speaker 1: not kosher. That ship you doing ain't kosher. And then
Speaker 1: you try to put out the record and rewrite the narrative. Nigga,
Speaker 1: you not kosher, bro, you not clean. You think niggas forgot.
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't forgot what you did. How good you?
Speaker 3: That record is doing just what he wanted to do,
Speaker 3: sparking debate.
Speaker 1: It ain't no debate, and you people keep trying to
Speaker 1: tell me you'll dope the record. He is. You know what,
Speaker 1: I hear the record? How ho it is? M that's
Speaker 1: what I hear. How hole it is? I don't hear
Speaker 1: how dope it is. I hear how ho it is.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck how dope your bars is, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't care about how dope your bars is. When
Speaker 1: you building it on a fake premise.
Speaker 3: Man, he's.
Speaker 4: The dog cut it out and he don't even why.
Speaker 4: You won't even laugh when you say some funny ass
Speaker 4: shit man said the first time.
Speaker 3: Ain't nigga to make songs like that, Dog's go do
Speaker 3: some stuff.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Just Ryan from Nola Glasses. When it
Speaker 1: came down to Drake and culture, Drake is from a
Speaker 1: Jewish culture, and there's a such niggas Jewish mob and
Speaker 1: black hip hop emulated to sell your mob. What is culture?
Speaker 1: So hip hop ain't just culture. I know you hear
Speaker 1: that all the time, just Ruyn that hip hop is
Speaker 1: just culture. Hip hop is street urban culture personified through
Speaker 1: the arts of enement. It's the artistic expression of street
Speaker 1: urban culture. So street urban culture influenced the street urban
Speaker 1: colture across race, across race run. So yes, there are
Speaker 1: black people who are attracted to the white lord of
Speaker 1: Chicago gangsters like al Capone, and they name themselves after
Speaker 1: that the lures of a Spanish of a Spanish dope
Speaker 1: dealer like Scarface, and they will name themselves after that
Speaker 1: Jewish coat figures like like like what's the boy name
Speaker 1: the numbers dude, the Jewish battle Yeah, mayor Lansky, I
Speaker 1: got a homy named dire Lanski. I mean, yeah, street
Speaker 1: guys emulate street guys. That's hip hop and street urban culture.
Speaker 2: Drake is Jewish, that's not Yeah, that's like Drake a
Speaker 2: lot more than Hebrew.
Speaker 1: Drake is regular Jewish culture yamaka culture. Like he's not street.
Speaker 1: That's why he's not hip hop. It's not because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have culture. He's of Jewish culture. Bar Mitzvahs feel me,
Speaker 1: uh markov Backstreet Boys being played at the bar Mitzvah six.
Speaker 1: He's a Jewish co He's not a novel speak coach.
Speaker 1: He don't speak Yeah, he don't speak any slang or
Speaker 1: nothing in real life. He's a regular guy. He has
Speaker 1: a video at roughly eighteen years old talking shit about slang.
Speaker 1: He's sitting at a restaurant with some people saying how
Speaker 1: people in Toronto's slang sounds dumb. So right now he's
Speaker 1: usual transition coming.
Speaker 3: You actually called it when he had the song when
Speaker 3: he said you gonna make me catch your body right now,
Speaker 3: you were so mad.
Speaker 1: I told you that, and y'all was mad because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to mess with him. I'm like, Bro, he's
Speaker 1: going somewhere else that I cannot verify. Shout out to
Speaker 1: the homie, uh Spock, doctor Ramball the song the ten
Speaker 1: dollars super chat. I appreciate you, Spock. We feel he
Speaker 1: good today. Bro, y'all looking out. I appreciate y'all. A
Speaker 1: glass Loan felt like him taking the high road and
Speaker 1: framed it like the battle was about clout being number
Speaker 1: one instead of the culture. And that's my problem. That's
Speaker 1: my problem. That is not what happened, nigga. You put
Speaker 1: out records and this is nigga, and then you try
Speaker 1: to put your hand back up like you didn't hit him,
Speaker 1: type shit. That's the problem. If he would have never
Speaker 1: made any this record, bro, if he would have never
Speaker 1: made any di record, I wouldn't have anything to say.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man J Cole took the high road.
Speaker 1: I expect j Row J Cole to take the high road.
Speaker 1: That's his brand. But when you go low like he
Speaker 1: went low, the first low thing is one thing to
Speaker 1: keep saying competitively, you want to compete, and then when
Speaker 1: people press you to compete, like this ain't the first
Speaker 1: time I heard like I don't want to get into
Speaker 1: the stuff me and Dot talk about, but like there
Speaker 1: was a time when the Control first came out and
Speaker 1: you felt some kind of way, bro, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to compete that way, So don't act like you do.
Speaker 1: Don't get on these records when you do. Because when
Speaker 1: you started the competition and a young homie responded and
Speaker 1: got at you and let you know what time it was,
Speaker 1: you feel me you didn't want to compete, or I
Speaker 1: take that back, you did want to compete. You came
Speaker 1: out with two records. You came out with that seven
Speaker 1: minute drill, which is med that shit is mean, and
Speaker 1: then you came out with that Poe song, which is fired,
Speaker 1: but it's also underhanded because you went and put his
Speaker 1: friend on the record. You wouldn't put You wouldn't put
Speaker 1: solo on the record. Who has a new single out
Speaker 1: and make sure y'all check that out after this line
Speaker 1: goes off, you wouldn't put solo on the record, and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't put day like knowing that we are all
Speaker 1: in good standings, we are all friends, and then you
Speaker 1: dissed him on the record. We know what you did,
Speaker 1: homey with that nigga draco recipe, say we know the truth, dog,
Speaker 1: And then you pull the songs down because you you
Speaker 1: like you didn't get the response you was thought you
Speaker 1: was people looking at you side on you, not looking
Speaker 1: at the good dude. So you pull the songs down
Speaker 1: and you apologize and really that was too far because
Speaker 1: once you hit the Homy twice, you really should have
Speaker 1: been in the squad. So Homy still should have took
Speaker 1: off on you. On God, he should have really gave
Speaker 1: you his work, should actually gave you a pass. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he really looked out for you. So let's stop right here.
Speaker 1: Like you the good guy and Homie really the good guy,
Speaker 1: the homie look out for you. I'm proud of your kid.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, kid. I'm proud of you. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of you for not really doing what you should
Speaker 1: have did to me. I know what you should have
Speaker 1: did to him, if you should have did it to him,
Speaker 1: because he deserved it. But I respect you because he
Speaker 1: said he didn't want it, and like a real player,
Speaker 1: you didn't give it to him. I respect that, feel me,
Speaker 1: But now don't try to come back. After the smoke clear,
Speaker 1: and somebody then died in this battle, and it's our
Speaker 1: blood all over it's our blood all over the walls,
Speaker 1: and this man career look crazy and people don't know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, and it's our blood just leaked. All
Speaker 1: the stains. You can see the stains from the battle,
Speaker 1: and it still ain't over because the super Bowl don't
Speaker 1: even make a bigger sting. Don't try to wait till
Speaker 1: the smoke clear come out and be popping it like
Speaker 1: you want some high moral Why you didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it? Ain't that the ultimate? Though?
Speaker 3: You know he gonna have to do They not like
Speaker 3: us at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yes, he don't got to do what he needs to do.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't want to shut out to Jess Ryan from Thenola,
Speaker 1: But you can't discount the Jewish culture on hip hop?
Speaker 1: Then so is it about how gangster you could be?
Speaker 1: Because Hitler eventually became pretty gangster, but was he street? No,
Speaker 1: hip hop is about street urban culture. It's not just
Speaker 1: about gangster gangster.
Speaker 3: Jewish culture is not hip hop, and no.
Speaker 1: It's not because there's a ton of cultures. The Mexican
Speaker 1: culture is that crazy culture could be hip hop. Street
Speaker 1: bread culture is where hip hop is that street where
Speaker 1: crime develops. The culture, the lingo, the style, the fashion, poverty,
Speaker 1: all these things create style that we call hip hop.
Speaker 1: And yes, it's been the same in street Jewish culture.
Speaker 1: It's been the same in Italian street urban culture, Irish
Speaker 1: street urban culture, all of those things impact. There's a
Speaker 1: rapper out there probably named after White E.
Speaker 4: Boger.
Speaker 1: So again, it's not about race, it's not about mixed
Speaker 1: mixed breeds.
Speaker 2: It's about that was my track.
Speaker 1: White E. Boger, Right, So again you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you popp up shut out the only name brand him
Speaker 1: calling niggas.
Speaker 2: Ignorant and even like we the gentleman lady for I
Speaker 2: just remember the nola part. I remember the first it was,
Speaker 2: but like that was crazy that now we're defining anything
Speaker 2: violent as gangster. Hiller is not gangster. That would be
Speaker 2: like saying the Columbine kids were gangster.
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with street No. And I
Speaker 1: get where that. I get when they hear crime, but
Speaker 1: they don't understand poverty and crime come together to create culture.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a criminal. It's just you're
Speaker 1: gonna talk the same way as the elements.
Speaker 3: I think that's just hip hop. You know, Cole been
Speaker 3: throwing digs wherever they all have.
Speaker 1: So that you can't hide your hand and act like
Speaker 1: you ain't. You can't try to act like you mature,
Speaker 1: like you didn't.
Speaker 3: But see, you know what, you know what that is
Speaker 3: the greatest because he's been throwing jazz and he's been
Speaker 3: letting you know he throwing the rock.
Speaker 1: No, Doc wants to compete. He's going to tell you
Speaker 1: that's how we came up. Shout out to top Dog,
Speaker 1: because that's how he raised us. In a business, we compete,
Speaker 1: We're gonna compete. I'm gonna get on a song with
Speaker 1: Jay Rock and I'm gonna talk that next level shit
Speaker 1: saying for dobting anybody else. That's what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: And if you act like you want to compete, we're
Speaker 1: going to compete. That's what you're supposed to do. If
Speaker 1: that's your thing. Twan, don't do that. Twin ain't talk
Speaker 1: about here if he better than the next m seal.
Speaker 1: If you start talking about you better than other people,
Speaker 1: somebody might want to find out. And that's what I
Speaker 1: don't like about Cole. You can't look at it like,
Speaker 1: oh you know that, blah blah blah. Now people want
Speaker 1: to find out. You know what I'm saying Now they
Speaker 1: wrong or they they immature? No, you popping it, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you popping it now, glasses.
Speaker 4: I do throw a little. I do throw. I do
Speaker 4: still have the bravado of an mc with ego, but
Speaker 4: it's not to the degree that I'm not calling out
Speaker 4: like I ain't in no beef with nobody. I don't
Speaker 4: care about beefing. I don't care about competing with nobody.
Speaker 4: I just want to make you.
Speaker 1: Say you're the best. Now you're asking for work, so
Speaker 1: stop saying that. Yes, you don't want you smoke.
Speaker 3: Don't always trying to bust somebody's ass. I don't care
Speaker 3: who I do a song with. If I do a
Speaker 3: song with you, g I'm trying to tear your head off.
Speaker 2: But everybody, how are you trying to do that? You're
Speaker 2: trying to tear his head off by by saying every
Speaker 2: rhyme about him are your thing.
Speaker 4: You're just gonna make sure that your pen is at
Speaker 4: the top of it to manifest showing it's not manifesting
Speaker 4: into an attack on him.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna gee, I'm not gonna this them, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to have a hotter version. You're gonna.
Speaker 4: You're gonna put your best foot forward.
Speaker 3: It's like on the song, he's gonna try to some
Speaker 3: of them features that you do some of these dudes
Speaker 3: and tearing their heads off of the records.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Mac Mizzle Show. Seven minute drill
Speaker 1: was pure bars, no personal land ship. I agree it
Speaker 1: was very much Bars. But the fact is, when you
Speaker 1: start calling another man's work trash, you asking for problem.
Speaker 1: You're asking for a problem. So don't try to act
Speaker 1: like it's personal land ship or dope shit when it's not. Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta stand by this ship. That's why I tell
Speaker 1: Twine stop saying you the best. If you say you
Speaker 1: the best, you ask him to compete, because the best
Speaker 1: means who the hell are you better? Then shit?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So if you saying that you can't be walking around
Speaker 1: this motherfucker like you ain't on the smoke.
Speaker 3: You know who do a whole lot of sneak this
Speaker 3: into and on saying nothing about them. Jay Z, he's
Speaker 3: been king sneak this.
Speaker 1: Guess what he gonna he gonna squabble up. He ain't
Speaker 1: finna get out the car. He ain't finnsa this, he
Speaker 1: ain't finna put out takeover and be like I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: And the future other men playing football with your son.
Speaker 1: Shout out to two k grind oh nine Kendrick ain't
Speaker 1: in and no career Stop that boy. You see all
Speaker 1: this our blood. Stop playing. You see all the our blood.
Speaker 1: You see we was barbecuing our We've been barbecuing our
Speaker 1: for weeks. Don't act like you don't see what's happening
Speaker 1: for months. What are you talking about it? Don't act
Speaker 1: like you don't see us eating all this our and shit.
Speaker 1: And you keep seeing these songs going up and them
Speaker 1: songs ain't doing ship.
Speaker 4: You see that ship and be glasses. Who is the
Speaker 4: fun are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I swear I've been eating out
Speaker 1: for the last few months. Our glass, our wings.
Speaker 4: Our breasts, our claws, and our claws.
Speaker 1: I've been making grounded up our. I've been missing tuna.
Speaker 1: But all Drake go do is come up there and go, oh,
Speaker 1: don't do he didn't did it a thousand times and
Speaker 1: it ain't happened, and he's happen.
Speaker 3: And them girls still gonna go buy his record.
Speaker 1: He's still but he don't have the streets though.
Speaker 3: Still he don't have the streets. But I don't ever
Speaker 3: had the streets. He's gonna go up there and go
Speaker 3: tripple look.
Speaker 1: Again again again. That ain't gonna help. And you know
Speaker 1: why it ain't gonna help, because everybody care what we think.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem. Hip hop don't give us itself
Speaker 1: enough credit for it. That's that's what hip hop. Don't
Speaker 1: give us something. He's coming and hey, hey hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: hey hey hey, take take your cape off. There's no
Speaker 1: saving shout out to my uncle to me make my point.
Speaker 1: Hold on, there's no saving it. You can't just do that.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why he came over here and tried
Speaker 1: to be with us in the first place, when he
Speaker 1: could have stayed over there with him sync in the
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys. And if you don't realize our opinion on
Speaker 1: things mean the world. That's why they're not fucking with
Speaker 1: them pop songs. He done put out twelve songs since then,
Speaker 1: they like, oh, if they don't like him, we not
Speaker 1: fucking with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there was no amount of rom com songs
Speaker 2: that Jau could have done with. Ashanti was gonna save
Speaker 2: his ass after fifty because.
Speaker 1: You're done with him, Like shout out to shout out
Speaker 1: to homie from Atlanta, what's done? Me from Atlanta City?
Speaker 1: Be done with Dre. We done with We done with Dre.
Speaker 1: Draco figured out he's an incredible record maker. He'll be fine,
Speaker 1: he made enough money his whole life him. He'll get
Speaker 1: another record, but it's over and it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: over because you can ain't playing with this street urban culture.
Speaker 1: This ain't no game.
Speaker 4: A lot of people confused. Bro Hey, shouts out to
Speaker 4: m C.
Speaker 3: Light.
Speaker 4: Today is their birthday. We got to shut out.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, shot out with Light the true queens
Speaker 1: Man much love, like and I say you got that
Speaker 1: new album. I'm definitely finna get as a run. I'm
Speaker 1: finna play you and glow really today, so female hip
Speaker 1: hop for today, so much love. Shout out to West
Speaker 1: l a special air reality rap hip hop is the truth.
Speaker 1: Yes it is.
Speaker 4: He even made a record with Sexy Red that didn't
Speaker 4: because at the end of.
Speaker 2: The day, now he's ruining her career. She was untouchable.
Speaker 1: Exactly that she started to look funny in life.
Speaker 2: If you go flash Sexy Red, you ain't hard. That's
Speaker 2: the birthday.
Speaker 1: Just wine from Nola. Chinese people make microphones, keyboards, clippers,
Speaker 1: but they not hip hop. Ryan, I eat Chinese food.
Speaker 1: I'm not Chinese tape ship. Simply put, brother, simply put.
Speaker 1: I Chinese food and I am not Chinese. Let's get
Speaker 1: through some of these super chests. We got a couple more.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, y'all. Y'all keep them coming, man, that's clear.
Speaker 1: Faster Vanilla Gorilla. All love and praise to the dopest
Speaker 1: podcast out my man, Fast. I love you for that spot,
Speaker 1: the doc. Thank you for this five dollars, Fast, Thank
Speaker 1: you for that two dollars spot, Thank you for this
Speaker 1: five How do you think God might precede this Cold
Speaker 1: Song as a disc? As a disc? I know him
Speaker 1: because I know how I'm taking it. And one thing
Speaker 1: I can tell you, we take shit the same. He
Speaker 1: see it like I see it. We both know that
Speaker 1: some old cornball that shit. You then did all this
Speaker 1: old punk as shit and he let you go, and
Speaker 1: then you come back trying to pop it like you
Speaker 1: want Nigga. You not like that, Bro, You not like that.
Speaker 1: Don't try to put vinegar in your pin. Now. Bro,
Speaker 1: you had a chance and you didn't want it. So
Speaker 1: don't try to come back and redirect the narrative and
Speaker 1: make us think that you some kind of because you
Speaker 1: ain't that. That ain't what you is. David Jones, thank
Speaker 1: you for that ten dollars. Cold can wrap his ass
Speaker 1: offt but it doesn't matter if the message is trash facts.
Speaker 1: He only stands on this is when punching down like
Speaker 1: Mumbo Rappers or Kanye while he's already getting dog Pad
Speaker 1: David Jones. I'm glad i am not the only person
Speaker 1: that see it. I'm glad I am not the only
Speaker 1: person who sees it. The mac Minzels show Black coature
Speaker 1: is hip hop? Cut it out, glasses, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Black culture is much denser than hip hop, and it's
Speaker 1: lazy to call everything in Black coature hip hop. Black
Speaker 1: culture is rock and roll. Black culture is jazz. Black
Speaker 1: culture is a lot more country just hip hop. Black cultures.
Speaker 2: Hip hop is Black culture more than Black culture is
Speaker 2: hip hopes.
Speaker 1: It's not, they're not. Hip Hop is much different than
Speaker 1: black coature. It's a very specific brand that Black people
Speaker 1: have in in hip hop. As for a street urban
Speaker 1: culture's specific. It's niche. It's not everything in hip hop.
Speaker 1: I mean, ain't everything in black culture. Black culture is vast, brother,
Speaker 1: it's vast. So it's just lazy to reference everything as
Speaker 1: Black people do it's hip hop because there's too many
Speaker 1: Black people that ain't hip hop. That's still black people that.
Speaker 3: Listen to Boosy Collins in the earlier rock album is.
Speaker 4: Incredible, maggot brain and all that type shitredible.
Speaker 1: Hold up South Central Boy ninety four e nim is
Speaker 1: hip hop. He ain't black. His his from a street,
Speaker 1: urban setting exactly South Central Boy. I agree, and that
Speaker 1: that's exactly why it is. Marcell, what's happing to think?
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Speaker 1: we gonna keep turning it up to promote it every
Speaker 1: Monday and Wednesday and Friday right here at noon on
Speaker 1: Digital soap Box. Marcell. People saying he backed out because
Speaker 1: it wasn't strictly raped. You believe that, No, I don't
Speaker 1: believe that it was strictly raped. Ain't nobody got hurt,
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got hurt, Ain't nobody got hurt.
Speaker 3: This publicity stuns Drake pull by having somebody go to
Speaker 3: shoot at his house.
Speaker 1: Look, that's that's got something that's some whole other ship.
Speaker 1: Name brand. It's like calling someone the bitch. You have
Speaker 1: to make them that now. I agree, name brand or
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be saying that type ship or you should
Speaker 1: not be saying that. Shout out to sports Doc, Oh,
Speaker 1: we got some more super chats. Hold on, how do
Speaker 1: you know Doc got that one? Shout out to Ron Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that ten dollars.
Speaker 3: Ron.
Speaker 1: Tupac was Jesus. I'm not mad at that. Tupac definitely
Speaker 1: was Jesus. I can go with that. I think nanchay
Speaker 1: Hussele was Jesus too.
Speaker 3: If Tupac was Jesus, be here walking around and now
Speaker 3: ain't nobody got resurrected.
Speaker 1: Jesus ain't walking around right now?
Speaker 3: He got alive and well what do you mean how
Speaker 3: he's alive? And well you you wasn't right there with
Speaker 3: you every day. He's a testament in my life. Y'all
Speaker 3: killed me, played with playing with Jesus stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm going, are we playing with Jesus? Can't call no
Speaker 1: rap with Jesus. You said Jesus could have been a rapper. No,
Speaker 1: Tupac wasn't.
Speaker 3: No Jesus. Why Jesus, They wasn't Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Y'all getting Jesus Christ name.
Speaker 1: Ain't even Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, I know you're full of it, and I'm tired
Speaker 1: of y'all making a story like I could have been Jesus.
Speaker 1: Hold On, hold on, I could have been Jesus. That's
Speaker 1: not impossible. I think, scarface God, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: just why I'm when I'm familiar with Los Angeles culture,
Speaker 1: how do y'all look at this particular subject. Both Master
Speaker 1: Pier No Limits and Chuck A Big Boy Regulars signed
Speaker 1: like Slim taughtles. Los Angeles culture is vast. There's a
Speaker 1: street culture in Los Angeles where I'm from. It's different.
Speaker 1: Were from the East side, right, So watch counter Loan
Speaker 1: Beach that that part of the one ten freeway gang
Speaker 1: banging is a part of street urban culture on our side.
Speaker 1: But if you go over there on Fairfax where let's
Speaker 1: say our future tired of the Creator, they're skaters. Some
Speaker 1: places in Long Beach have gangs. Some people in Long
Speaker 1: Beach have street urban culture like skating, like Vansas street
Speaker 1: urban culture. You know what I mean Vansas street urban culture.
Speaker 1: My first interview, here's a perfect example. My first interview
Speaker 1: in life came from Thrasher magazine. It wasn't with Double XXL.
Speaker 1: It wasn't with a source. It wasn't. This is my
Speaker 1: first ever right up in this magazine. Right here, Thrasher.
Speaker 1: This is a perfect example the street urban culture. Here's
Speaker 1: my first right up in life. When you crazy, you
Speaker 1: brought it up. This is my first right up in life.
Speaker 4: Why you tear it out? Why do you tear it out?
Speaker 1: The book?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: I got five of them.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is the only thing I have.
Speaker 1: I have five of them Thrasher, not in not in
Speaker 1: Double XL, not in the rap magazine, not in the
Speaker 1: gang Banger magazine, and Thrasher because skating in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: there's a huge portion of it that's street urban culture.
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta understand. So again, Los Angeles culture
Speaker 1: is vast, like Black culture. All some of it ain't street,
Speaker 1: some of it is street, and gang banging ain't the
Speaker 1: only street urban culture in Los Angeles. That's what you
Speaker 1: gotta remember. Jay Z is always ready shout out to
Speaker 1: the homie breeze. Yes, jay Z is ready Uh just
Speaker 1: Ryan for the know your chuck a big boy record.
Speaker 1: Uh wes l a special at jay Z got to
Speaker 1: stop doing that. I can't do this. Noot out to
Speaker 1: Ramy Mature Reno. I just seen you man, much love.
Speaker 1: Cole said he felt like m apology, I lead in.
Speaker 1: Oh he felt like Muhammad A lead and apologize. Ali
Speaker 1: Ali never apologized for picking his beliefs over what they
Speaker 1: the government character sassinated of. I agree, yes, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's no, I don't agree. I'm not riding. Ali went
Speaker 1: it through a punch and apologize if youre gonna start
Speaker 1: a fighting saying yeah no, no, jay Z did it.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Breeze. Jay Z never apologize. He did
Speaker 1: apologize to NAA's baby mine for putting her in the rap,
Speaker 1: so I ain't gonna say that, but that's not the
Speaker 1: same type of apology. A Na's baby mom was somebody
Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with the battle. So jay
Speaker 1: Z felt as a man that that wasn't right. And
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him for thinking that. That's I
Speaker 1: could respect that. That's some grown up shit. He never apologized.
Speaker 1: Knabs they friends now and he ain't apologized still to
Speaker 1: this day.
Speaker 4: Nas ain't apologized to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't know they be on show. Shit, they
Speaker 1: still be Yo ain't No Sauce said what I said.
Speaker 1: I meant it at that time. Ronald Green barbecue out
Speaker 1: facts smoking everything. We smoking that shit, Like we've talked
Speaker 1: about it before.
Speaker 2: I go an other topic. But like this is like
Speaker 2: kind of the same vein we've gotten into before, where
Speaker 2: it's like Jay Cole made himself look like the profile
Speaker 2: of somebody that snitches. Ooh, you're you're there for a
Speaker 2: second with it, but then you really don't want the consequences.
Speaker 1: But it was cool.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. He feel like a person
Speaker 1: that snitch. He felt like a person that snitch. That's
Speaker 1: my problem. He feels like a person that told everything
Speaker 1: about him. Is a person that told. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Shari Steal in the chat. I appreciate you, y'all. Make
Speaker 1: sure I hit them chat. We still see.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna turn the camera.
Speaker 1: I're gonna go move my car.
Speaker 7: Bro Okay, Drake is sixty. Oh man, that's that's my bard.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna get a bar better than this. Drake
Speaker 7: went flashing with Sexy Red. If you could go flash
Speaker 7: it on the Sexy Red Track In twenty twenty four,
Speaker 7: you ain't hard.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the mac Mizzle Show that Awl got defried.
Speaker 1: Can't lie it was delicious mac Mizzle that I was delayed.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I never taste the taste to
Speaker 1: your bird. I never tasted to taste to your bird. Bro.
Speaker 2: So we're doing our Thanksgiving this year.
Speaker 1: You feel me gonna be there, Bram. I need to
Speaker 1: go get some our meat, really cook it. You feel
Speaker 1: me to make sure we rubbed this in. We need
Speaker 1: to rub this in. I mean, look, I think that's
Speaker 1: an husion that like I don't like Drake or something
Speaker 1: that's not true. Bro. I'm competitive, God is my man.
Speaker 1: I love Drake. He was a good dude when he
Speaker 1: came in. It don't matter if I don't think if
Speaker 1: he's a fantastic talent. That's what makes the victory so great.
Speaker 1: But yes, we're gonna rub it in because that's the
Speaker 1: hip hop thing to do to enjoy the victory. Just
Speaker 1: Ryan from the know. Yet, I needed to hear you
Speaker 1: speak outside of Twitter, because on Twitter I get a
Speaker 1: different impression of you and not an ignorant person or
Speaker 1: completely iager egotistical. We disagree on small things. It's only
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty characters. Ryan, Shit, you know you
Speaker 1: gotta Cola. Wayne gave me one of the greatest lessons
Speaker 1: in life. He said, if you really want to be
Speaker 1: a star, Glasses, you have to be okay with being misunderstood.
Speaker 1: And that was like one of the most important things
Speaker 1: I ever formed based off of something Wayne told me.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay when people misunderstand me on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: guess it could look a bit ignorant. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Big Glow, who just dropped her album, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: that specialty. Make sure y'all go listen to Glow. Thriller's
Speaker 1: new album, Got some New Mersy glorious, the whole album,
Speaker 1: the first album that new music.
Speaker 4: That new mersey I love. I love to hear her
Speaker 4: say that ship the best love. I heard closed story
Speaker 4: of how what she went through, bro, and it made
Speaker 4: me I already liked it.
Speaker 1: Man. I love that lady.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I want the best right there. Yeah, she deserves it, Bro,
Speaker 1: I've been saying that for I've been saying that for
Speaker 1: two years. Bro, she deserved everything. I want nothing but
Speaker 1: great things for I'm really a fan of her voice.
Speaker 1: I listened to her female rap. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: She makes me appreciate female raps more today than other artists.
Speaker 1: Shout out to another female artist who is very much
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame after one album, Cardi B.
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, Cardi B. Even though you dis cripts, I
Speaker 1: ain't forgot that. You better fix that ship one of
Speaker 1: these days. I know you are blood with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to get that right. You can't just be disingcrypts.
Speaker 1: I don't. I still didn't like that shit. Uh. Shout
Speaker 1: out to just Ryan. But if they pulled their contributionized
Speaker 1: platform in which hip hop broadcast itself, it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but again that's your choice.
Speaker 4: If he'll pulled their highest form of I think he's.
Speaker 1: Talking about people like Sony and microphones. They don't do
Speaker 1: it for hip hop. They do it for everybody in music.
Speaker 1: Like vinegar. Vinegar is in greens, but vinegar ain't soul food.
Speaker 1: Chicken Chicken is everybody food, But how we make it is.
Speaker 1: What makes it soulful is how you cook something.
Speaker 2: Ryan.
Speaker 1: It ain't the actual It's very few ingredients that are
Speaker 1: just culture, like everybody wear All Stars, all Star converses, right,
Speaker 1: Chuck Taylor's they call them. But when you flip the
Speaker 1: tongue and you put fat relations through them, that's what
Speaker 1: makes them Lost Angeles street urban culture, Timblands, everybody at
Speaker 1: the construction site and The Winner where timblings you feel me.
Speaker 1: But the way New York guys wear them is the culture.
Speaker 1: Same for Milwaukee, sayn for Chicago. It's how you use
Speaker 1: the material, it's not the material itself. So that's the
Speaker 1: separation of Ryan. That's the only difference. They ain't brand
Speaker 1: even Soul fill away and drop right away saying I'm
Speaker 1: the best because so serious, because if it get to it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a problem. Messing with Soul. Your whole problem,
Speaker 1: not going to play with.
Speaker 4: You, the whole problem. He's a whole problem.
Speaker 1: We will Kendrick respond to that j Cole song, Yes,
Speaker 1: but it won't be like he did. Probably for like that.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna go I doubt he goes all out.
Speaker 1: But trust me, Jake Cole gonna know when he's talking
Speaker 1: to him. And that's what I appreciate about the young boy.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna play with it. Shout out to Raymond Materarino.
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Speaker 1: Kendrick just said I'm reincardinated. Tell him again name brand
Speaker 1: after getting shot in the back by j Cole Nigga
Speaker 1: Kilty shot him in the back and did all that
Speaker 1: shit use his boy and all that. My nigga popped
Speaker 1: up like the Undertaker on that nigga popped up and
Speaker 1: showed niggas twyinga Am I tripping? Am I really going
Speaker 1: to art?
Speaker 4: Bro? No? Put it like I put it like this, man,
Speaker 4: I don't like. Have you ever been slapboxing? Which with
Speaker 4: like a cousin that was around the same age and
Speaker 4: they messed around. Y'all was slapboxing, but y'all wasn't supposed
Speaker 4: to go too far, but he slapped you and now
Speaker 4: your eye is running. He's like, I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: and you're like, all right, but you know you're gonna
Speaker 4: get him back. You're not. You're not taking that, bro,
Speaker 4: You're not. You're not gonna get off on me like
Speaker 4: that because we was You wasn't supposed to slap me
Speaker 4: in my eye? You know what's supposed to do that
Speaker 4: to me?
Speaker 1: It feels like two people that were slap boxing and
Speaker 1: one person closed their fists and hit them twice. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take it there not because it's like nothing.
Speaker 4: But you said you tried, you tried to injure me.
Speaker 4: Then it wasn't.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 4: You said you to do it.
Speaker 1: See that wasn't seven minute drill. Seven minute drill, and
Speaker 1: and and and and and pie aren't accidents, you know?
Speaker 2: Is this is like when it like like the eyeball
Speaker 2: scenario is closer to like when what MC eight was
Speaker 2: saying about the quick track and he meant quick like
Speaker 2: swiftly and quick took it like DJ quick.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that. Okay, that's that that's where accident goes bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I just think sometimes it's
Speaker 4: just I sometimes just let's sleeping dogs lie man, like
Speaker 4: don't like if you know you ain't even if you
Speaker 4: got the slightest inkling that you not cut like that,
Speaker 4: and you got two ravenous pit bulls out here. Don't
Speaker 4: run your little ass out here like playing games with
Speaker 4: these dudes, because they it's a blood sport with these dudes.
Speaker 4: Like these dudeses all gloves. The gloves is off. They will, yes,
Speaker 4: they they really they about that life and you are
Speaker 4: still in between wanting to be the people's champ as
Speaker 4: far as like you lyrically sound, nobody's debating the fact
Speaker 4: that you you cold as hell.
Speaker 1: Only is the Nigga a superior MC, He's also a barn,
Speaker 1: top tier record writer, nigga do his own hooks. The
Speaker 1: Nigga's incredible, and honestly, I looked forward to him competing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean when he dropped the first time,
Speaker 1: like okay, Cole really trying to come for the crown.
Speaker 1: But then when you apologize, I didn't like that. And
Speaker 1: it's not I didn't like the apology as much as
Speaker 1: it just felt disingenuous, like like, Okay, you say you
Speaker 1: mature and you don't want to do this, but you
Speaker 1: kind of did some hain and shit into action, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like okay. And even though I had my
Speaker 1: reserve thoughts on what you're doing, like I had, I
Speaker 1: felt reserve, like I didn't like that I saw what
Speaker 1: you did with pie, how you put like that was
Speaker 1: kind of devious. I wouldn't do that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play like that that. I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1: So you really kind of like you almost giving me
Speaker 1: forty eight Laws of Power vibes. I mean, like you
Speaker 1: like you reading them books and shit, and like I
Speaker 1: really was watching that, bro, that that that mattered to me.
Speaker 1: And then for you to put out this song right
Speaker 1: now where you actually trying to act like it's vinegar
Speaker 1: in your pin, bro, like you trying to reframe the
Speaker 1: narrative as if you didn't chicken shit out. You trying
Speaker 1: to reframe the narrative as if you didn't put out
Speaker 1: to Dish Records. You trying to reframe it like you
Speaker 1: the superior morality, and you're not. You're not bro. You
Speaker 1: just a regular man. So stop popping it like you're
Speaker 1: on another level because you actually did some haint and shit.
Speaker 1: The worst thing to me is when street people talk
Speaker 1: bad about street people. If you want their maturation. That's cool,
Speaker 1: but don't try to call them ignant because we are ignorant.
Speaker 1: Now if you use it ignorant the sense that them
Speaker 1: kids don't know, that's dope. But don't try to look
Speaker 1: down on people that you was once because you because
Speaker 1: it's real quick, you could be reminded who you are.
Speaker 4: Seventh Street, Pete, y'all tell me this is there a
Speaker 4: tad bit of clout chasing in this? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean cloud chasing is you don't need clouts. So
Speaker 4: I'm the reason why I say tad bit because it's
Speaker 4: not like the man. The man got no to writing.
Speaker 4: He's known worldwide even though he can't go to a
Speaker 4: Tesla dealership and get served, right, they tried to kick
Speaker 4: him out of the Tesla dealership in New York like
Speaker 4: it's not electric like that type shit. Okay, I can
Speaker 4: dig that, all right, nice, I like how you want to.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like, he don't.
Speaker 1: Need cop but I'm gonna tell you why he does.
Speaker 1: And this is the trick, even like when we had
Speaker 1: a conversation about Drake. Because you will be popular and
Speaker 1: famous and you are rich and you are on top
Speaker 1: of the game. But guess what the culture can question you.
Speaker 1: And when the culture start questioning the money, people will
Speaker 1: stop taking the money. Like remember j Cole put out
Speaker 1: two records since this battle happened, and those two records
Speaker 1: one of those records, and those two records didn't really
Speaker 1: have an impact, not that this records. After he put
Speaker 1: out a record with that one dude, that kind of
Speaker 1: corny shit, I mean, and he put out something else.
Speaker 1: So again he understood this is what we wanted to
Speaker 1: hear from him. He knew he had to address this
Speaker 1: same thing for Drake Drake eventually, if he he wants
Speaker 1: to make a play, I don't want to give him
Speaker 1: the secrets of culture, but you need to address what
Speaker 1: we care about for us to care about what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, because right now this is the space win.
Speaker 1: We want to hear you talk about what we want
Speaker 1: to hear.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: We don't care what you think, Drake, like dot beat
Speaker 1: that out of you. What I'm saying, we don't care
Speaker 1: what you think. We care about what you think about this.
Speaker 1: If he came on and made a song where you
Speaker 1: admitted defeat, we would listen to it. If he came
Speaker 1: on talk about how it affected his life. We would
Speaker 1: listen to it. But if you try to make a
Speaker 1: song about Uan Guan Delilah, that's not gonna work. If
Speaker 1: you try to make a song with Saxey, we're talking
Speaker 1: about rit baby, Dady, we don't go to fuck how
Speaker 1: much money you got. If you make a song with
Speaker 1: these niggas talking tough, we know you not tough. We
Speaker 1: saw you just get that work. Were not buying it.
Speaker 1: The jig is up, the vela is off. We see
Speaker 1: your face, you ugly. Now you need to address how
Speaker 1: you look. You need to get us comfortable with you
Speaker 1: and how you look again and make us remember why
Speaker 1: we fuck with you in the first place, because you
Speaker 1: got to a place where you started lying. And Jay
Speaker 1: Cole understood that. So he addressed what we thought he
Speaker 1: we cared about. But I didn't like he tried to
Speaker 1: reframe what happened. And I'm not gonna let you do
Speaker 1: that to the young homie. I'm not gonna let you
Speaker 1: try to take some moral road to some superior space.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 1: You not. You're a piece of shit for what you did,
Speaker 1: and you are mark for putting it back. That's a fact, glasses,
Speaker 1: that's true. It's not I'm not calling.
Speaker 4: Cuz you ain't no, you ain't no, you ain't no
Speaker 4: whole ass ninja.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you did with some whole ass ship. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Jeriz ten dollars. We'll appreciate that right here
Speaker 1: on no ceilings. Kick these convos coming. Will Sean was
Speaker 1: handing we up in here, dog. Shout out to everybody
Speaker 1: still in the chat and tribute and going crazy. Hold
Speaker 1: on one second, South Central boy, I like your questions.
Speaker 1: Please y'all stay in the chat, Ryan killy chats. Don't
Speaker 1: stop killing these chats. They're important. Make sure y'all click
Speaker 1: that light button glasses. So if God took this as this,
Speaker 1: if you were in the shoes, do you address it
Speaker 1: on the next drop leading to the super Bowl or
Speaker 1: the album? I probably put it on the album because
Speaker 1: I know he don't want all the smoke in his
Speaker 1: face and I don't want to look like no bully.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give him some work on the song,
Speaker 1: and everybody gonna know who I'm talking to, and more
Speaker 1: than anything, he gonna know who I'm talking to. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let him know I heard you and I seen
Speaker 1: that buster as shit you did and you're still a
Speaker 1: buster for doing it. Now, I might not give him
Speaker 1: like that that verse off that or or not like
Speaker 1: us as euphoria, but you're finna get something. Shout out
Speaker 1: to just Ryan Fel the know you. But if we
Speaker 1: put everything together, we're saying anybody can be taken from
Speaker 1: the Sicilian culture, which you consider urban street culture or
Speaker 1: people that manufacture the goods. No, only people who came
Speaker 1: up or live in that culture of Sicilian street urban
Speaker 1: culture can be in hip hop, not just Sicilian culture,
Speaker 1: because all Sicilian culture ain't street cultures.
Speaker 2: Old rural country culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have their own cure.
Speaker 2: It's Mississippi type culture of that part of the world.
Speaker 1: Ironically, if y'all don't understand this street urban culture transcends race,
Speaker 1: Like there's a confus using that La guys created drive bys.
Speaker 1: Our component was doing drive bys in like the twenties
Speaker 1: and thirties. Street urban culture is just street urban culture.
Speaker 1: It don't matter the race. You're gonna have Irish people,
Speaker 1: you gonna have Italian people, you're gonna have Black people,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Meskan people. You go to East LA,
Speaker 1: we're all doing the same thing because that's the culture
Speaker 1: of the streets. It's not about the particular you know,
Speaker 1: nationality or the race. It's really the behavior of how
Speaker 1: the environment breeds you and the rules there. And those
Speaker 1: rules are pretty consistent. No matter if you and the
Speaker 1: gutters of Boston, the gutters of Milwaukee, the gouters of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the gutters of East LA, the gutters of Miami,
Speaker 1: it's all the same matter. It don't matter if your
Speaker 1: skin dark as the night or bright as the sky
Speaker 1: or white as the clouds. We all behave the same way.
Speaker 1: And that's the culture.
Speaker 4: Make something out of nothing and get out of the plight.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's it, that's really yeah, just makes some soul of it,
Speaker 4: take it even from even taking it from our We
Speaker 4: started at the bottom and now we're here. That's the goal, right.
Speaker 1: I called this, Willie Manchester, that's fire. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, love, you know, I know that
Speaker 1: was fire.
Speaker 4: But I know he called he threw, he threw it,
Speaker 4: he said, Manchester, He threw like a nice look to
Speaker 4: the to the kidney. Willie Manchester, Willy Manchester. Bro, you'd
Speaker 4: be bringing them out, bro, bro, what the you would
Speaker 4: all be bringing them out?
Speaker 1: Got that bastard. Call the cops, honey, No, he ain't
Speaker 1: Willie Manchester because Willy least, at least that boy was
Speaker 1: trying to steal the stereo.
Speaker 4: Willie Manchester. Willie Manchester was not wrong, man.
Speaker 1: Willie Manchester was illegal beating. He was at home with
Speaker 1: his women and little nasty ass kid was looking in
Speaker 1: the window. That little nasty ass trying to steal my
Speaker 1: car stereo.
Speaker 4: Ray Ray.
Speaker 1: Yeah, new house for Ray Ray. You know what's funny
Speaker 1: you saying that I've always wanted to address this publicly.
Speaker 1: Ray Ray wasn't beating them kids. No, he was just
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. If I make eighty dollars property because I
Speaker 1: have to connect, and I give you twenty dollars up front,
Speaker 1: and you don't got to try to set the record.
Speaker 1: Loco actually is the problem. He's the real villain in
Speaker 1: those in South Central If you really think about it,
Speaker 1: Why you say local, why you put it? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why Loco is the problem, bro, Because Loko dude.
Speaker 1: Because when it was fucked up, guess who put they
Speaker 1: life on the line to protect Loco.
Speaker 4: Type ship.
Speaker 1: Guess who did it? Oh, g badass killer Bobby Johnson
Speaker 1: put his life on the line. Guess what happened when
Speaker 1: when it was just it was Bobby Johnson back to
Speaker 1: the wall. Guess what Loco did?
Speaker 4: Ben was a bitch tape shit.
Speaker 6: J cole is Loco type shito.
Speaker 1: Oh he always good when you're in the car, y'all,
Speaker 1: free y'all. Still you're trying to flay with the prostitutes.
Speaker 1: Oh you, it's all J cole is Loco from South Central.
Speaker 1: But going back to our last going back to our
Speaker 1: to the last, to the last stream, Yeah, last stream.
Speaker 1: Loko was also a victim. He was also addicted.
Speaker 4: He was a shirm head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not a victim. All right.
Speaker 4: I'm leaving alone. Man, I can't.
Speaker 1: Don't take him a victim. He enjoyed Sherman.
Speaker 4: He jumped in somewhere in here.
Speaker 1: He enjoyed Sherman.
Speaker 4: Help me out, Pete.
Speaker 1: Marcel Jo to get a word of that twice, Jacob
Speaker 1: dis kendrick Man. He wanted people to feel him. Notice
Speaker 1: he hasn't this Drake. He doesn't even want people to
Speaker 1: think it's against Drake. I agree, Marcell, that's the slippery point.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the name Brandon. Don't make sense. He
Speaker 1: competing pro basketball more than Rapp. He don't compete there
Speaker 1: because he has two points. Jo heinous, Yes, it was
Speaker 1: jo is heinous because he made that pie song dis
Speaker 1: and Kendrick, and he didn't play the verse for he
Speaker 1: didn't play the verse for soul or daylight of him
Speaker 1: dising Kendrick. So he distant with on a song to
Speaker 1: try to create chaos and months our camp amongst our
Speaker 1: friends in our circle. That's heinous. It's despicable. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Ronald Green. Definitely agree about Cold Me too, my boy,
Speaker 1: me too.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that he so he took the other
Speaker 2: guy's tracks and recorded him down and put his on
Speaker 2: his verse on the end of the track or put
Speaker 2: it in the song afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happened. At least that's what they said happened.
Speaker 1: I believe the homies just Ryan from No Yah. I
Speaker 1: don't believe you can say it's okay to take pieces
Speaker 1: from any particular culture with the people that he has
Speaker 1: taken from and can't have anybody listen if this is
Speaker 1: a conversation about Drake, Drake just doesn't.
Speaker 2: Oh he is Drake.
Speaker 1: I think this is a conversation about Drake, where I've
Speaker 1: said Drake is not hip hop because he's not street
Speaker 1: urban culture. He's not. He's just he's a pop artist.
Speaker 1: Pop artists take everything that is sense to the very
Speaker 1: top of culture and then they just take it and
Speaker 1: make it like they take the seasoning out of it.
Speaker 1: Drake is like, Drake is like Taco bell for Mexican food.
Speaker 1: Like imagine, call it Taco Bill Mexican fool. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not Mexican food. Taco bell Is is based off
Speaker 1: of Mexican cuisine, but it's americanized, mainstream American food. It's
Speaker 1: not Mexican food. You know what I'm saying. That's Drake.
Speaker 1: Drake takes the taco and then he mixes it with
Speaker 1: Doritos and he makes kind of like this version that's digestible,
Speaker 1: you know, he takes the seasoning out for the whole
Speaker 1: nation to eat. That's what being mainstream is all about.
Speaker 4: And then on top of that glasses. I hear what
Speaker 4: I hear Ryan when he say the contributions he's made.
Speaker 4: But in turn, it's been a two way street future
Speaker 4: and every artist that.
Speaker 2: Other people can take from, like like what can who
Speaker 2: is going to be able to utilize what Drake has
Speaker 2: contributed to advanced, you know, with their own thing.
Speaker 4: Let me ask y'all both this real quick. Has Drake
Speaker 4: taught us anything about about about the six.
Speaker 1: No, because they don't even call it. That's another story.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. He has he taught he I've
Speaker 4: seen him do Miami culture, I've seen him do Atlantic culture.
Speaker 4: I've seen him do Houston culture. He's done. He's done.
Speaker 4: He even through He even threw pop uh an Ai
Speaker 4: poc on a disc record to the King, to the
Speaker 4: King of Compton, like you who idolizes pop?
Speaker 1: Like you literally did that. So I'm like, what else?
Speaker 4: What else he taught us about Toronto? I'm asking, I'm asking.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to he signed pop con this and
Speaker 2: work with him.
Speaker 1: Okay, which is which is a culture? Which is business?
Speaker 1: That's business. It's it's not advancing the culture. Look, Drake
Speaker 1: is very much of Jewish culture. He's a dope talent,
Speaker 1: just a mainstream pop artist that makes rap song cit
Speaker 1: He's a fantastic talent. Basically, what you're saying in reverse
Speaker 1: is someone takes something from hip hop like Drake. He's
Speaker 1: not hip hop to you. But if Jewish mind were
Speaker 1: to do something acceptable, it can be taken. If someone
Speaker 1: takes something from hip hop like Drake, we didn't. Someone
Speaker 1: takes something from hip hop like Drake, Drake is not.
Speaker 1: We don't don't take anything from Drake. Drake just takes
Speaker 1: from difference.
Speaker 2: The difference is like literally all the stuff that happened
Speaker 2: in the turn of the twentieth century with a massive
Speaker 2: influx of Jewish and Italian immigrants into the heart of
Speaker 2: poor urban New York and what manifested for twenty years
Speaker 2: is people tried to get on their feet. Is the
Speaker 2: exact same thing that has happened with subsequent people who
Speaker 2: moved there afterwards that started hip hop, also in the
Speaker 2: same physical place, doing the same physical things under the
Speaker 2: same physical circumstances.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: And whether or not you pray on Saturday or Sunday,
Speaker 2: or your other language sounded more like you're from the
Speaker 2: Deep South or was Yiddish, it's those other things are
Speaker 2: not the coincidental things. The coincidental things is what was
Speaker 2: happening right there and why and for that period.
Speaker 1: How you had to talk to the people right then.
Speaker 1: We had a great conversation Shout out to you Twine
Speaker 1: for bringing Chuck chill Out on ADHD. Make sure if
Speaker 1: y'all ever download Clubhouse, y'all become a part of the
Speaker 1: ADHD family. Has some incredible hip hop conversations happening there.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brother Trap everybody over there. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: But Chuck chill Out. Twin brought DJ Chuck chill Out
Speaker 1: on hip Hop and he talked about how there were
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican people who hung with them all the time
Speaker 1: and they didn't know they were Puerto Rican because if
Speaker 1: they went to Puerto Rican neighborhoods, they would get their
Speaker 1: ass whooped. So again, like hip like, like street urban
Speaker 1: culture is pretty much the same no matter what's going
Speaker 1: on inside of your house, But what's going in your
Speaker 1: side of your house doesn't always have to be hip hop. Like,
Speaker 1: you can go inside of your house and it could
Speaker 1: just Puerto Rican culture just be Puerto Rican culture. But
Speaker 1: then there's the thing that everybody in New York street
Speaker 1: life does, and that's the thing that makes it hip hop.
Speaker 2: Like, it's it's you know what it is. It's like
Speaker 2: what's the sun to the solar system? In Puerto Rican culture,
Speaker 2: there are certain things that transcend Puerto Ricans wherever you
Speaker 2: find them, and that's the sun in that solar system.
Speaker 2: Whereas there's certain stuff that everybody in an urban environment does,
Speaker 2: no matter what their background, and that's the center point
Speaker 2: for them exactly.
Speaker 1: Shout out to him, BALI love. The problem is that
Speaker 1: Cole keeps throwing stones and hides his hand, goes on
Speaker 1: a moral superiority, periority. I'm above the phrase stance while
Speaker 1: sneak this and do all fake Totally agree. That's my issue,
Speaker 1: and I will not let him rewrite the narrative. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm here now. Mega sure he doesn't rewrite the narrative.
Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody in the chats man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they dropping some jewels today?
Speaker 1: Is god? Y'all getting crack in a day? Shout out
Speaker 1: to Anthony T.
Speaker 4: Pork.
Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody in the chat I'm glad y'all
Speaker 1: chilling the chat man. This is so big. He's probably right,
Speaker 1: He's probably right there those yeah glasses. You have to
Speaker 1: cheer with the analogies. No, the analogies get it done you.
Speaker 1: It's how you teach. You gotta be able to communicate.
Speaker 1: Uh gyra Sharie wait, I thought Pie was about Drake somewhat,
Speaker 1: Daylight said, I think no, pie is about Dot. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it got some Drake in there, but it's about Dot.
Speaker 1: Shout out to just Ryan from Nola. Most of you
Speaker 1: have never been in New Orleans, but somehow you were
Speaker 1: cultured and annoying where Marty Grass was. And it's what
Speaker 1: WODI means. But we are. It doesn't mean we're a
Speaker 1: part of New Orleans street urban culture. Like, yeah, just
Speaker 1: because I eat Mexican food, I'm not Mexican. I can
Speaker 1: dress like a cholo. I'm not a cholo. There are
Speaker 1: cultural things that have to take place for that to work.
Speaker 1: There are people outside of Mexican people that are solos.
Speaker 1: There are black people that are soolos. I got homies,
Speaker 1: that's cholos. That's black. So again, it's not race. Culture
Speaker 1: is something that you just live. It's how you live. Well.
Speaker 2: Was peg Leg he was like Eastern European, that's true,
Speaker 2: was he?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hitler wasn't even German exactly, he was Jewish.
Speaker 1: He was Austrian, Yeah, exactly. Cheris Drake is acting, that's it,
Speaker 1: and he's doing a fantastic job. He was, But the
Speaker 1: dig is up. He's out of law in order Toronto.
Speaker 4: Just Ryan is going crazy. Just Ryan is saying some stuff.
Speaker 4: He said Glass, he said, believing, believe this kind of believing.
Speaker 4: Believe in this conversation, we are finding ways to be ostracized.
Speaker 4: This isn't really about inclusion. It's about making something stronger
Speaker 4: than already exists. It exists by excluding. It's not about
Speaker 4: excluding Ryan, at least not from my standpoint.
Speaker 1: Ryan, Listen, listen, Chop jewel on listen. Let me let
Speaker 1: me tell you why this is important.
Speaker 4: And I get it.
Speaker 1: Man, as human beings, we all want to be included.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a standard thing, right, You want
Speaker 1: to be a part of something just because you like it.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you what happens, Ryan, when you
Speaker 1: let that happened?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Rock and roll in this country was created by people
Speaker 1: that look like me and Twine.
Speaker 4: Sister, Rosetta Thart. It was a black woman, right, Rosetta Thark.
Speaker 1: And it was something you did, just like jazz was
Speaker 1: created by people that look like me and Twine.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: And it's something you did, it's something you live, it's
Speaker 1: something you love and you did it. And guess what
Speaker 1: they financed the business. Right, somebody comes in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: there's some business. You know what I mean, there are
Speaker 1: some things that there's business to be made from this culture, right,
Speaker 1: And then guess what, They start to market it, and
Speaker 1: people love it. They decide I love it, I want
Speaker 1: to consume it, and some people outside of it decide, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to even take part of it. I like
Speaker 1: how it makes me feel listening to it, and I
Speaker 1: feel this way, right, And then those people who don't
Speaker 1: look like me, maybe they look like Pete, maybe they
Speaker 1: look like somebody else, they start to do it. And
Speaker 1: then the national scene or the international scene of people
Speaker 1: start to relate into people that look like because they
Speaker 1: think it could be them. And next thing you know,
Speaker 1: you wake up and now there's nobody that looks like
Speaker 1: me or Twine in rock and roll getting any major budgets.
Speaker 1: There's nobody that looked like me and Twine that can
Speaker 1: get a major budget. In jazz, they have to look
Speaker 1: like Kenny g. That's the reason why you have to
Speaker 1: be careful with just allowing everybody to have anything, because
Speaker 1: there's people who will start to exclude people because of it.
Speaker 1: So you have to exclude to have some level of
Speaker 1: inclusion for the poor people. It was created for it.
Speaker 2: And one thing is interesting, just like observationally about that
Speaker 2: twenty like the twentieth century evolution of musicals, genres and
Speaker 2: styles that like Black culture like really kind of move
Speaker 2: from one to the next to the next the next,
Speaker 2: And hip hop has had the longest lasting sort of phase.
Speaker 2: If you were to go chronologically, jazz is maybe twenty
Speaker 2: thirty years up and out of the like forty plus
Speaker 2: forty five years, you know, without it.
Speaker 1: But if you looking at it, But if you looking
Speaker 1: at it, Pete, look at what's happening. Look at even
Speaker 1: the person we're talking about, sure to look at what's
Speaker 1: going on. You're seeing it slowly slip away because you
Speaker 1: know what happens. No, No, the financial budgets don't make
Speaker 1: sense for people that look like me and Twine no more.
Speaker 1: It makes sense for a Jewish man that can use
Speaker 1: the N word. I get no, no, no, I get
Speaker 1: I know, you get it. I'm just saying, so as
Speaker 1: much as it looked like it's still strong, it's already fractured.
Speaker 1: It's already broken. You see what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, like it's it's interesting. It's a
Speaker 2: deviation a bit from trend that, like organically, by now
Speaker 2: I would have expected, like if I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: previous cycles, like by now, organically inner city black communities
Speaker 2: would have just like created a whole new genre and
Speaker 2: moved off like.
Speaker 1: They are though stuff happening like Travis. What Travis Scott
Speaker 1: does is not hip hop, you know, I mean, and
Speaker 1: people don't know it shit. It just hasn't spawned its
Speaker 1: own genre. It's like rock and roll from the blues,
Speaker 1: the same but yeah it's different, right, And same thing
Speaker 1: with Liuzzi. Lil Uzzi doesn't make hip hop and they're
Speaker 1: saying it and people won't even classify their records correctly
Speaker 1: because they're so certain. If you look like me a
Speaker 1: twine and you happen to use rap, I mean, then
Speaker 1: you're hip hop. And these guys are saying, no, man,
Speaker 1: we're rocking. One guy saying, hey, I'm a rock star.
Speaker 1: He's making rock music, yes, And he's making music and
Speaker 1: he has a right to define the music he makes.
Speaker 1: He's defining the music he makes. He don't want to
Speaker 1: be put in the box, and people know he did
Speaker 1: wanted to be putting the box. You want to be
Speaker 1: a rock star, and they're putting him in this box
Speaker 1: like they do puff when he puffed, Come on, t back,
Speaker 1: rapper puff. That's the one thing he did to Lisa.
Speaker 3: He was an.
Speaker 1: Executive for years. Why not? Why not the executive puff?
Speaker 4: Rapper puff?
Speaker 1: Why not the executive puff? Liquor executive puff?
Speaker 4: Why is it raped?
Speaker 2: Because it should be the real thing, It should be
Speaker 2: serial entrepreneur comes.
Speaker 1: Not because again, Rapper is nigger.
Speaker 2: I was I was gonna say it a little more softly,
Speaker 2: but I was gonna say rapper is sort of a
Speaker 2: mainstream media way of being like nigger, non.
Speaker 1: Big nigger, nigger puff daddy, nigger puff daddy. Today was
Speaker 1: accused of buying too much pussy bigger nigger puff Daddyeah
Speaker 1: a thousand bottles of loo.
Speaker 2: Not nothing, non classically achieved wealthy black guy Sean Combs.
Speaker 1: That would sound fire. Hey, people know what they're and
Speaker 1: you know why they don't want to do that melody.
Speaker 1: You're possibly not guilty, but if you attach Rapper to it, guilty, that.
Speaker 4: Is that's some crazy ship the boy when you.
Speaker 1: Rapper, that's the.
Speaker 2: Guy who got in between some sting chorus lines. Fifteen,
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guy who Love Daddy wrote, Guy who Biggie wrote
Speaker 1: some Nope songs for Guy who executive. They can't say
Speaker 1: a producer, you know, they don't rapper is nigga career
Speaker 1: because it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Isn't like therapy for you to say that, you know
Speaker 4: what it is reference ninja.
Speaker 1: It's it's therapeutic to really realize how mainstream America looks
Speaker 1: at us. It always reminds me you just.
Speaker 4: Woke me up when you say that. I knew that
Speaker 4: it was always you just brought it to the front to.
Speaker 1: The court today. That's oh, then, just Ryan for to
Speaker 1: know you want to text somebody excluding other people from
Speaker 1: taking over. No, I just want people to be the
Speaker 1: genuine article. That's all I want. I just want people
Speaker 1: to be the genuine article. That's all I asked for it. No,
Speaker 1: it gotta be the he heart he he are. Because
Speaker 1: we don't say rapper. We say rapper, but they say
Speaker 1: rapper puff. That's just a simple way to say nigga.
Speaker 1: Why they don't say liquor brand exec Because.
Speaker 2: A thing is a whole.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't say that, that's a whole broader I
Speaker 4: despise the words. So I've I've divorced the word many.
Speaker 1: No, no, not not not not not not not not
Speaker 1: that I don't have that word.
Speaker 4: Like I just saying the hard e R like eight times,
Speaker 4: and every time you say that you smile. That's really
Speaker 4: how he was, Like like he was that therapy or something.
Speaker 4: He was like bigger that that face right there.
Speaker 1: Maybe like you get excitement from saying that ship you
Speaker 1: know what excites me to really realize this is how
Speaker 1: they feel. That's real, bro, I love to see the truth.
Speaker 1: You broke it up now reminded like, oh you're really
Speaker 1: still be on the bush. Woke it up? Nigger Puff Dog.
Speaker 4: Rapper?
Speaker 1: Puff Daddy'd be like, Puff is not a fucking rapper.
Speaker 1: None of us thinks Puff is a rapper.
Speaker 4: Coincidentally, both of them had to have a hard e
Speaker 4: R at the end of them.
Speaker 1: Rapper, you're what I'm telling you, y'all think I'm tripping
Speaker 1: up standard dancer for sure? You got exactly why didn't
Speaker 1: say ex Dancer puff Daddy because dancer don't work as
Speaker 1: good as rapper?
Speaker 2: How about x X dancer puff daddy Dan?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why not dancer puff Daddy?
Speaker 4: Where do y'all find me? What do y'all find these comebacks?
Speaker 1: What do y'all find I'm just saying, Bro.
Speaker 4: It's Friday.
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm just saying, with a hard y producer, puff
Speaker 1: producer puff sound to Phil Spector, you might get yeah,
Speaker 1: you might get off, you might do. Rapper going to jail.
Speaker 1: It's because because it's constantly being said, like it's constantly
Speaker 1: as a jury.
Speaker 2: Ci rapper did that was murder mistake. He should have
Speaker 2: done murder and not the hard r on murder for sure.
Speaker 2: And then oh he took that way too seriously, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, of course he did it. This blas
Speaker 2: used a hard r.
Speaker 1: He must not be metaphorical murdered. Yes, he did it.
Speaker 2: His name is wanted us to know.
Speaker 1: That's how that's how the white people really feel crazy murder. Yes,
Speaker 1: he murdered somebody murder.
Speaker 4: Why would you?
Speaker 1: Why else would you artistic?
Speaker 2: It would have been a name, but this is literal.
Speaker 1: Hey, why else would you name yourself murder if you
Speaker 1: don't believe in murder? Yeah, nigger puff, that ship's classic
Speaker 1: coach connection. You're right, Miles Davis hated to turn hated
Speaker 1: every time, just like he didn't name it gainst the rap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he hated them. He didn't name it against the rap.
Speaker 1: But they put a title Gangster rap exact exactly, like
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure it's gangster. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Again the hard e R bro all these The more
Speaker 4: and more you say these words, the more and more
Speaker 4: we revisit these words. That e R just persistent. Is
Speaker 4: this something about that hard e R? Oh nor hard?
Speaker 1: That's a hard song?
Speaker 4: Hard e R?
Speaker 1: As if there's a thousand p diddies running around, they
Speaker 1: don't really have to preface it with rapper exactly. I
Speaker 1: guess another like it's another motherfucker named Diddy, rapper Diddy.
Speaker 1: They love to drop that rapper in front of me.
Speaker 1: A nigga have one song, they'd be like, rapper this bro,
Speaker 1: he is not a rapper, Bro, he has one rap song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like rapper. They love that bro.
Speaker 2: Dog woke it up on Vanilla Musical Journeyman.
Speaker 1: Say that entrepreneur, construction builder, former former former rapper.
Speaker 2: Substance rehabilitated, Vanilla Ice business, Mogil.
Speaker 1: Business, the god for that name.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: I'm done bro.
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Speaker 1: It really is. Bro Absolutely, Ja co did the right thing.
Speaker 1: He's still better than ninety nine percent of the rappers
Speaker 1: out there, and he's still a duck port. He's a
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Speaker 2: Please, oh Man at the barbecue or we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to have hard r burgers.
Speaker 4: Bugger. We want to bugger a burger, a burger bugger. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh was the only kind bugger. Please ducks in the
Speaker 4: chat before we get a body. I need ducks in
Speaker 4: the chat. Shout out to me.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything y'all said on today's show. We're
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