WEBVTT - #16 - MC Eiht 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.680 That's right, ladies and gentlemen, it is that time. I'm 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.759 trying to remember what episode we're on, Episode number sixteen, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.599 I believe of the bootleg Head Podcast. Is that terrible 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.840 that I don't even remember what episode we're on? They're 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.960 flying by though, episode sixteen. That is correct. Welcome to 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.279 the bootleg Head Podcast. Just want to say shout out 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:38.120 to everybody locked in. Man, we are gonna start kind 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:43.600 of ramping up the quantity of episodes moving forward. There's 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.839 a lot of dope stuff on deck. We got an 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:50.400 interview with Blast, who's probably the hottest artist out of 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:55.080 LA We got an interview with Sada Baby, who's from 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.640 Detroit and who was so high off of Leen during 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.440 our interview that I had to cut it short because 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:05.880 he was falling asleep and it was kind of pointless. Yeah. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.560 Interesting nonetheless, Also, Action Bronson will be on the podcast 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:18.000 next week. Bam, bam, He'll be on the podcast. And yeah, man, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.039 so much stuff going on. I really just want to 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.240 shout out to uh. You know, I'm a I'm a 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.560 I'm a sports gambler and I've just been extremely excited 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.000 that football's back. I just went to Vegas over the 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:36.679 weekend with my best friend David and uh just watched 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.319 football and got drunk and gambled. It was amazing. It 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:46.120 was like literally like it was Euphoriak. But I got 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.920 a shout out my Arizona Cardinals for winning me a 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.480 shit ton of money over the weekend. Yeah. I'm trying 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.080 to think of the new hip hop I'm listening to 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.400 right now. I don't know if there's anything new but 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.680 the new Marquel Del Juan and Tony Talk EP that 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:07.040 just dropped that is actually off of Ready Set, the label, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.120 which people don't know that's my record label. So shout 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.360 Markel and Tony Chalk. Go support their EP if you 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.760 don't mind. Also, Berner's new project is out. Yeah, there's 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.960 some dope new wrapout, so you know, go dibble and dabble. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.440 I'm still off that Big Sean and that Conway. Both 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.440 of those albums are still in full rotation for me. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.680 Shout out to Conway, Shout out to Big Sean. Both 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.760 albums are crazy. This week's episode, we have got a legend, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.200 a Compton legend MC eight the og. Now, when I 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:42.360 was a kid man, I remember first kind of hearing 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:49.120 of MC eight. Obviously, Compton's Most Wanted and his beef 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:54.000 with DJ Quick. I remember DJ Quick dissing him on 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.880 Safe and Sound saying, ei h T should I continue? 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.519 You left out the G because the G eight in 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.560 you and as a kid, that was kind of how 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:08.880 I first got super familiar with this guy, but a legend, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.120 and we had a really dope conversation. He's got a 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:16.120 new album that's out right now officially that's Dope. Super 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:22.240 Fire features on their Primos, on their Davies Conway Go 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.400 tap in with his new album. And of course before 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.680 we get to the interview, got a shout out our sponsors. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.680 We do have some of those. Shout out to our 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:40.280 presenting sponsor, odd Socks. Yeah, odd socksofficial dot com. 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Use the keyword 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.120 boot leg ca I've been get twenty percent off at 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:07.039 vapincbd dot com. Let's get to this interview. God damn it, listen. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:12.120 MC eight is on the motherfucking podcast. Let's get to it, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.120 Boutlet Cap Podcast number sixteenth. Come on, we're here with 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.880 the legend right now. Man MC eight was cracking, kid. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.200 I'm chilling, bro. I gotta tell you. When I was 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.680 a kid, I had a big cousin who had all 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.320 you know, the CD books used to be the shit, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.120 right right, get all your shit comped his most wanted shit, 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.760 and I kind of got introduced, I want to say, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.960 as a child, you and quicks Beef was my first 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.400 introduction to like rap beef. Right. I was probably like, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.960 I don't know, like ten or eleven, and uh, you know, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.320 you guys had a legendary back and forth. But man, 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.240 it's it's so dope to talk to you. I've obviously 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:53.640 I've been in LA for like three or four years. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.920 The first time you met man d Y some d 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.000 you got your new album that How long have you 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.520 been working on this new album? Since I've been working 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.960 on it for about a year and a half, you know, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.880 just trying to get the right music together, you know, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.400 try to get a couple of features whatever. You know, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.160 I don't really be big on features. I just try 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:16.919 to do what I do. You know, when I start 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.279 recording a project, I usually just go into the studio. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.479 I get about three four producers, and I just have 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.479 them just send me beat after beat after beat after beat. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.720 So I might record up to sixty songs, right, and 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.680 then from there, I just you know, being in the 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:40.720 game a while and having relationships with certain cats, it 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.760 enables me to pick up the phone and be like, hey, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.039 you know, I need a verse, I need a beat. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:52.000 So always Primo, always New York cats, you know, you know, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.120 I kind of you know, extend their hand as far 0:06:55.160 --> 0:07:02.240 as as far as my, my, my, my, I want 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.480 to say my contribution to hip hop. It's been so long, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.800 so dude, or just you know, send me versus send 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.200 me beat. So I've been recording this record for about 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.320 a year and a half, and I try to do 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.200 a lot of songs, and then I'll out of the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.000 sixty songs, I might pick thirty and then I'll send 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.280 them to Primo, and then Primo will be like yeah no, yeah, no, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.960 yeah no. And then from there, I just basically just 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.000 try to put whatever. It don't even matter on the 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.720 amount of songs I record. If it's twenty songs, we 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.480 put twenty songs out. If it's fifteen, we do fifteen, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.480 if it's twelve, if it's twenty seven. I mean, I 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.520 just try to do a gang of songs, so at 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.440 least it'll go around the board and have everybody or 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.239 something a little flavor for everybody. You and a Primo, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.400 give me the roots of your guys' relationship because obviously 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.920 you being from La Primos, you know, originally from Texas, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:59.040 but we are associated with New York. Talk about y'all's 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:04.920 relationship and you know where it started. I started rapping 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.240 the man back in the day days, you know, uh, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:13.600 p Roxeal, Smooth, e Z, ice Cube, Tone, Low School 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.240 e D So I was being around for a while. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.520 So back in my days, record companies was big on 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.320 promotional tours. You had to go out, you had to 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.600 go do end store, sign all the graphs. So around 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.640 the time I first got started, Primo in them had 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.720 first got started with Gangstar, him and Rest in Peace Guru. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.559 I used to see him a lot on the road 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:44.160 promo tours, and one of my first major concerts was 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.200 with Gangstar at the Celebrity Theater and oh no, there's 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.080 a Celebrity Theater in Phoenix too. Yeah, it was a 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:54.440 Celebrity Theater at Anaheim and my first major show was 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:03.400 Low Profile Wow, Above the Law, Okay CMW and Gang 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:08.920 Star so that's like such a gigster as West Coast lineup. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.640 And then Gangstar and the Gang Star so you know, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.760 they was hot with the Manifest record, so I used 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.880 to bump into him, and a lot of my early gigs, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.760 you know, when I start touring was with Gangstar, whether 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.120 it was Texas or Chicago, Cleveland. Always used to bump 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.800 into Premo on them, so we got cool like that. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:34.480 And then me being signed to Sony. You know, a 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.280 lot of my deals in construction, I had to go 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:42.079 to New York deal with the suit heeads. So I 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.600 used to call Primo up every time, you know, Premo 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.559 on coming into town. He picked me up from the airport. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.120 We go to his crew, just hang out like homies, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.480 and we've kept that relationship over the years. You know. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.240 He used to remix my records when I was over 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.640 at Sony, over at Epic, so we just kept a connection, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.800 you know, and Premo used to take me around all 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.800 the shows, the gigs. You know, I got introduced to 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.000 nas early and bust the rhymes and Tretch and a 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.120 lot of them cats Man, we used to just chill. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:18.040 So we've built that rapport over the years as too. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.800 I can hit Primo up man anytime a day, anytime 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.480 a day, night, whatever, and it's it's always a given, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.920 you know, Premo, I need a beat or sometimes I 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.160 just want them to listen to shit to make sure 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.160 I'm on the right track. Because as a producer, goddamn right, 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.120 he got that ear and being a and you know, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.640 producing for everybody from me to Jill Scott, jay Z, 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.920 jay Z, Christina Biggie, you know, so he's had that, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.600 he's had that track record where he has that good ear. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.040 So me and Primo has been knowing each other for 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:55.000 a long time and I respect that friendship relationship outside 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.880 of just the music. You know, somebody you would cross 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.880 paths with at a concert or show or whatever, that's 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.360 the best. And yeah, I had one conversation with Primo 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.360 and it was it was the best. It was like 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.920 when you meet your idols, Yeah, and it like they 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.520 don't they don't fuck up, you know, because sometimes you 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.880 meet somebody who you grow up loving and and then 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.640 you meet him and or you interviews is like Dann 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.520 you're disappointed. But with Primo, we just talked hip hop 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.720 and porn stars and all kinds of wild Yeah, yeah, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.640 that's pre Wo. That's Primo. N Primo can talk you 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.960 around everything, every subject, every anything, you know. And like 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.960 I said, that's from being as being a diverse human 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.800 being that Primo is being and a good nigga. He's 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.720 always been that for sure. Let's go back to kind 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.760 of how you got started, man, Like obviously being from Compton, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.400 being involved in the gang ship. At what point in 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:52.080 time did you decide to take hip hop serious and 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.280 realize that it might be like a way out of 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.600 the other ship that was going on. Well, you know, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.240 like I said, I started in the height of you know, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.000 not just saying that, you know, gang Bang still exists 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.840 and it's still out there whatever, but I started in 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.720 the height of the area around Iced Tea with Colors 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.120 and NWA and Easy with boys in the hood and 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.800 straight out of Compton, and then Ice Tea was six 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.000 in the morning, King T. You know what I'm saying, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.360 shout out to the liquid crew man. King T and 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.440 Iced Tea are two guys who don't get enough praise 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.559 for what they did. Definitely my dude, Tila Tela was man. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.280 I mean every every record that came out from Tela 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.560 in that time was just you know, payback some mother 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.200 and you better bring a gun and all that shit. Man. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.480 He was the forefront of what everybody could say was 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.439 what started Compton hip hop. No disrespect to my nigga, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.199 Taddy Ta and mixed Master Spade, but as far as 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:54.760 records could went, Tila was that dude. So I was 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.840 just a young cat, you know, trying to bang in 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:01.760 the neighborhood whatever. And Todd was from my neighborhood. Totty 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.160 t shout out Totty T. Todd came out with a 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.679 song called the Battle Round. You know, Battle Around was 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.560 a neighborhood jam, you know, the Daryl Gates police drug 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:16.400 sales whatever. So that kind of peaked my interest of 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.280 getting into the rap game. And then I took a 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:26.760 summer vacation, you know, the Mississippi, and my cousin being 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.920 in Mississippi was more East coast in Cline. So that's 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.760 when I start hearing rap music. You get me Eric Bing, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.720 Rock Him and fucking Utfo and Rock Sanne Shine, Te 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:44.560 Treacherous Threeses, Grandmaster Flash, so I'm like, oh, shit like 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.280 So it piqued my interests to want to take it 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.640 to a different level as to just going home and 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.760 rapping about the block, because that's what I did. I 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.920 wanted to be a Toddy t or Spade. I wanted 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:01.199 to rap about tragnu. I want to talk about the 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.280 the police harassment and who we had beef with and 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.400 whatever whatever. But then when I got introduced to like 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.480 I said, rock him and Eric be as president. When 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.440 you hear shit like that or EPMD, you got to chill. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.560 You start going wild, like it's something else to this 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.720 shit than just speaking on what'd you see exactly. So 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.720 from that I just took the skills and what I've 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.680 learned from the East Coast rappers of learning how to 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.640 put together versus in a perfect song and to rap 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.600 about shit outside of Compton, you know. So that's what 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.480 sparked my real interest and want to turn from just 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:44.040 a little mixtape or TDK selling talking about we this 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.720 and we that and we bang or this is our hood, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.280 and it wanted me to take it further. The songs 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.920 like growing up in the Hood or drive by Miss 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.880 Daisy or to get more you know, personal with the rap. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.320 So it started around when I started listening to East 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.960 Coast Rap. I mean, I mean East Coast Rap was 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.760 big for me, man, real talk. Yeah, I mean I 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.600 think that that was always kind of prevalent in your 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.920 ship like that, because I you know, I mean, even 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.120 if we can fast forward to now, you know, your 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.520 first singles got Conway exactly by Primo definitely. But I 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.240 do think that if you think back to that era 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.880 of like West Coast hip hop, like how even even 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.280 Ice Cube, you know, with America's Most Wanted, which I 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.880 think is his best body of work, was heavily influenced 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:35.040 by by by by New York with the Bomb Squad 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:40.200 definitely and Chuck d and all that. What at what 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.320 age did you initially get involved in gang banging? Because 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.000 I do feel like we, like you said, it's it's 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.280 still around, but when you were growing up, it was 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.520 kind of it was it was it was new. I'm 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.240 just saying it was new to the world exactly right, 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:03.480 exactly like the Cripson blood shit was something that was 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.920 starting to become like a mainstream thing. But now we 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.200 all know what Cripson bloods are, right. I mean, as 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.400 a young kid, I was naive to it. I mean 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.160 I lived in the center of it and didn't know 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.040 shit about it. As a fucking five six seven year 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.280 old kid, all I knew was Saturday morning cartoons, riding 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.640 my bike up and down the street, and not knowing 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.240 that the dudes right down the block was claiming shit 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.560 and selling drugs. And I was naive to it. But 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.640 as you grow and you start seeing and you start 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.920 adapting to your environment, and you seeing the dudes hanging 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.760 on the corners and dudes your age riding around and 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.720 fancy cars and whatever. So my introduction to that was 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.040 around you know, twelve thirteen years old. What year was 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.480 this shit? This had to be like eighty five, eighty six. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.160 You know, it was treacherous around here. You know, I 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.720 was go I would go to the bus stop, getting 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.560 ready to go to school, and then I start getting 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.200 introduced to nigga sweating you, and shit, I didn't know 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.359 what the fuck that was about it. I'm sitting at 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.119 the bus stop getting ready to go to school, and 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.119 it's like, Nigga, where the fuck are you from and 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.359 what you're doing over here? And while you got that 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.880 on and what you're wearing that hat for? And while 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.800 you got there and I'm looking like, god damn this 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.119 and that was the reality of it. So and as 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:24.399 at that age, it's funny because before that I dealt 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:29.159 with none of that. But then once you once you 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.320 hit that age next, it's just like a common thing. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.720 You either getting sweated or you sweating a motherfucker or 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.040 y'all jumping out on motherfuckers. And that's like I said, 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.520 it was the product of my environment, is what I 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:46.120 adapted to when I was able to understand and know 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.879 what gang banging was about and trying to grow up 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.719 in a section and trying to protect your section and 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.120 represent and it's about you and the homies and whatever. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.080 So it was a transition, I think, growing up on 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.720 the West and being in that environment, because if I 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.840 probably grew up somewhere else, it had probably been a 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.880 different thing. Do you think that you're having to deal 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.199 with that shit where people would bang on you or 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.159 sweat you, Like you said, like, did that kind of 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.600 force you to like figure out like I need to 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.919 I need to have something to say, Well, yeah, I 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.800 mean you either gonna get down or lay down at 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.320 that aspect, So it's either you gonna belong you gonna 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.320 belong to something and represent something, or you gonna be 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.239 a motherfucker out there who's probably gonna end up at 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.960 the like belly of the beast because there was no 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.399 saving I don't give a fuck. You could say you 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.320 wasn't from nowhere, and then the motherfucker sweat you harder. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:42.280 So it's best to be loan then to not and 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.600 get caught up in the world of bullshit that you 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:48.800 can't handle. So that was my thing about, you know, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.479 the gang banging shit and claiming the hood or getting 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.000 corded in or whatever. It was the sense of feeling 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.280 like I belonged and represented, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:05.160 And I had fifteen twenty thirty other niggas who was representing, 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.480 and we all for the protection of whatever, and if 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.359 niggas didn't like it, then we handle that accordingly to 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.880 why we did it. But like I said, I think 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.399 it's it's not a choice. It's being in a situation, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.000 in an environment that we grew up in. It's like, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.280 that's what you did. Yeah, it's funny because I just 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.920 had this conversation with somebody. I had a cousin who 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.439 did like fifteen years in prison, right right. I have 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.800 two cousins. One of them is half Mexican, half white. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:36.240 He's in the Mexican mafia. My other cousin who actually 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:41.160 passed away in prison recently. Not a racist guy, big 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.280 hip hop head, but literally was in for twenty years 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.360 and he join the Arian Nation. It's a survival thing. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.840 It's like definitely, it's like you know, I remember he 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.280 got out for a couple of years and I took 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.439 him to a Bust of Rhymes concert and it was 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.320 like the best night of his life. But this motherfucker, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.639 I like, you gotta wear long sleeve shirts, bruh. But 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.840 like you said, it's like, yo, it's what your It's like, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.240 you gotta adapt. You have to down and lay down. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.600 I mean, you have to adapt to certain situations that 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.680 were put in, especially if you want of those young 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.960 young men who grow who grew up or got tossed 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.040 in the situation to where it's either gone. You either 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.960 a part of this and gonna belong, or you're gonna 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.280 represent and you're gonna up. You're gonna uphold this ship 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.040 to the best of your ability, or you're gonna be 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.919 like I said, You're gonna be a sheep to the Lions. 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.320 What are your thoughts on on now? Because I do 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.560 feel like it's just interesting that like there's people who 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.960 move to l A, like artists who moved to LA 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.360 and then you know, all of a sudden they're affiliated 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.320 with certain sets and and and they got big homies 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.560 and I don't know how like you know, there's like 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.040 R and B singers and shit that are like banging 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.119 like hard as fuck, and it's like, wait a minute, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.720 like you know, like what are your thoughts on kind 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:02.280 of how how gang banging has evolve currently? Because I 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:07.320 do feel like there's a lot of there's a lot 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.159 like like there's a lot of faces to certain you know, 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.840 sets that are like that aren't from here. You know 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.000 what I'm saying, Well, I'll take that. I look at 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:23.879 that as a lot of people get into situations to 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:29.000 where they feel like it's just like if a dude 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.439 joined the Cup scout so went out and joined the 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:36.000 football team or whatever. The aspect of that is to 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.199 toughen up or make you seem like, you know, you 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.840 protect it or being something that you ain't. Some dudes 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.639 have to adapt to that situation. Some dudes have to 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:51.439 feel like you know, that's my that's my foundation of 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:56.120 what I've seen or what I've wanted to become. If 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.359 for dudes like me who grew up here and first 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:03.680 hand withinessed Gang Banyon and grew up in it, there 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.879 was a certain way and cold that you belonged or 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:11.920 you got put on a neighborhood. You know. The New 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.960 Days quote of Gang Banyon is to each his own 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.840 is what I say. It's what is accepted and what 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:23.480 ain't accepted from whatever gang feels like. This is what 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.120 they do. I mean, I don't know. Sometime it might 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.200 be a popularity contest, or it might be a Hey, 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.399 I've always wanted to be a part. So is it 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.919 a backward step to me? I think it is. But 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.360 like I said, some dudes is to each his own 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.760 and they feel like that they have to have that 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.639 background to make them official. You feel me. So I 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.200 don't really speak on it because then we don't want 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.439 to get entangled in the situation of telling people that 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.640 they not original or whatever. Because if you feel that's you, 0:22:55.760 --> 0:23:00.680 that's you myself. I know the certain codes coming from 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.600 Compton at twelve thirteen years old, knowing what it took 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.320 or what what had to be done to be initiated 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.600 into a game as to nowadays, it's just like, hey, 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.840 you're down, you down show it's lead and it's all good. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.680 So it's different codes, like I said, at different times. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.560 I mean, gang banging is commercialized now. Back in my 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:27.400 days when we didn't glorify it. I mean, people knew 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.760 where we were from where we represented, but there was 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:33.200 no way in fuck like on the hit yeah it. 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.480 Like I remember when there was the Crips Versus or 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.520