WEBVTT - You Are Not Alone • EP 722

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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<v Speaker 1>that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Them high school queens.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl

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<v Speaker 3>shared for the right teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Drama Queens, my girl girl fashion, but your tough girl.

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<v Speaker 3>You could sit with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drahma Queens Drama, Queens.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Hey, Heason seven Episode twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, we're at the end of season seven if we

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<v Speaker 2>made it. And I'm also this made me very emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is a big episode. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious to know what the fans take on it was,

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<v Speaker 4>because I, like you, had such happy nostalgia watching it,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I really enjoyed the heck out of the

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<v Speaker 4>episode and I and it is a good episode, but

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't tell if it was because I just remembered

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<v Speaker 4>how fond, like have such fond memories of us doing

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<v Speaker 4>that trip. Yeah, oh it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Okay, I'm going to read he does the

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<v Speaker 2>synopsis so we can jump in, because clearly we all

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<v Speaker 2>have so much to say, friends and listeners. This is

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<v Speaker 2>almost everything I wish i'd said the last time I

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<v Speaker 2>saw you. It originally aired May seventeenth, twenty ten, and

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<v Speaker 2>the show got a lot happens. Haley tries to overcome

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<v Speaker 2>her depression by joining Nathan, Jamie and the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the Gang on a trip to Utah for the premiere

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<v Speaker 2>of Julian's film at Sun Dance. This this is nostalgia City.

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<v Speaker 2>You said exactly the right word, Rob, And like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's so nice. I'm just gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and say selfishly that I'm so thrilled that we

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<v Speaker 2>all get to be together for this episode, given the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we've all been living on airplanes and like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been hard to all.

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<v Speaker 2>Get on the show recently, and I'm really glad we

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<v Speaker 2>get to be together for this one. Does that Does

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<v Speaker 2>that perhaps inspire anything you'd like to say, Rob?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, listen, I'd be remiss if I didn't say.

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<v Speaker 4>I've noticed there's a lot of chatter about how the

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<v Speaker 4>three of us can't be on the podcast at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time, and let me just say this, Gang, here's why,

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<v Speaker 4>here's why it's so stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you guys aren't stupid, but the chatter is stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, and I wear it. It's noise, it's in the comments,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just I do want to address it because

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's a lot of people shouting into

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<v Speaker 4>a vacuum and it can be cleared up quite easily.

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<v Speaker 4>There are three of us. One of us as a

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times bestseller and is currently promoting it all

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<v Speaker 4>over the world, Yes she does. Another one of us

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<v Speaker 4>is appearing on a series, has like about a jillion

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<v Speaker 4>other projects going on and is very busy. And the

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<v Speaker 4>third one of us is me. So here's the deal. Gang.

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<v Speaker 4>We try our best to all be on at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time because, believe me when I say, it is

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<v Speaker 4>easier and more fun when all three of us are here.

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<v Speaker 4>But lately life's been busy, life's been good, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just been challenging to coordinate our schedules. But here's the

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<v Speaker 4>good news. Today, you got all three of us. There

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<v Speaker 4>is no drama. Squash it the drama for your mama,

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<v Speaker 4>There is none, And we're gonna have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But Rob, don't you understand that people think everything that

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<v Speaker 2>happens online is all that's happening in people's lives, and

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<v Speaker 2>that strangers know more about our lives than we do.

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<v Speaker 4>This is true. Also, you know, we are called the

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<v Speaker 4>drama queens, so it's kind of appropriate that people are

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<v Speaker 4>stirring the drama pot in the comment section because literally, like,

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<v Speaker 4>what is a comment section for either tagging your friends

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<v Speaker 4>in a funny post they need to see or stirring

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<v Speaker 4>the pot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talk true about what you're thinking about what's making

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<v Speaker 3>you unhappy.

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<v Speaker 4>No one ever goes by the way. No one ever

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<v Speaker 4>goes to a comment section to feel better. The only

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<v Speaker 4>time I ever go to a comment section is either

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<v Speaker 4>when I want to see someone roasted or because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>livid and I need to see what everyone else is thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, you know what I will say speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of a show that was very high drama, something I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciated just because I've never really experienced it before.

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<v Speaker 2>The last Gray's episode that I was shooting my Days

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<v Speaker 2>overlapped with the amazing episode that y'all did with Lindsay

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<v Speaker 2>and Chantelle coming in to talk about the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>Missus James, and I was like, there's no way they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to like, let me off set

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<v Speaker 2>to go jump into this podcast, but it's definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen if I don't ask. And so when

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<v Speaker 2>I got to set that day, I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been trying to move this around and we're working

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<v Speaker 2>around everybody's schedules, YadA, YadA, you know, the whole shpiel.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I give too much information to the first

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<v Speaker 2>A D and they were like, oh, we totally get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Camilla and Jessica have a podcast and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm about to go on it and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, we do this all the time. Let us

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<v Speaker 2>try to hustle and we'll figure it out. Enjoy thankfully

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<v Speaker 2>was like side texting me being like, okay, we're at

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<v Speaker 2>this part. Okay if you can make it in now,

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<v Speaker 2>we're at this part. And I got on the zoom

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<v Speaker 2>and Hannah, our producer, was like, no, I see you

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<v Speaker 2>because it's still live. But we just got off like

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<v Speaker 2>six minutes before, so I sadly missed the episode. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like for the fans, it's literally how hard we

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<v Speaker 2>work to try to be here for all of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're really trying all the time. That was the

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<v Speaker 3>most depressing text. We like all signed off, everything was fine,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm ready running to base camp and you were like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh cool, we've all wept together and it's over. Any who,

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<v Speaker 2>this this episode feels like a way out of the weeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I had the distinct pleasure during this episode

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<v Speaker 3>of watching it with a One Tree Hill fan. For

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<v Speaker 3>fans out there, for anybody out there who has read

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<v Speaker 3>my book, there's a character in my book, Danielle, who

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<v Speaker 3>was a One Tree Hill fan that also got involved

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<v Speaker 3>in the cult because of me and also became someone

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<v Speaker 3>who got who helped get a bunch of people, including me,

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<v Speaker 3>out of it. Like, you can't write this one Tree

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<v Speaker 3>Hill fan like rescues girl from Colt.

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<v Speaker 2>It does sound like a storyline from our show.

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<v Speaker 3>It does. So, so she she was driving through town

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<v Speaker 3>and text and said, hey, are you around? And so

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<v Speaker 3>so she's spent the night in my guests sweet upstairs,

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<v Speaker 3>and we woke up this morning and have been watching

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<v Speaker 3>these two episodes together, which is really fun because she's

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<v Speaker 3>such a she's seen the series so many times and

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a super fan, and so it was fun

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<v Speaker 3>to watch and get you know, you're just saying, I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder what the fans thought of this episode because it

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<v Speaker 3>was so out of time it was out of well,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't out of time, but it was out of well,

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<v Speaker 3>some of it was, I guess clan quin. Anyway, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was out of our norm. Yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>fun to watch with her, and she had a she

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<v Speaker 3>had quite a commentary. I wish i'd run a tape recorder.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have You would have enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, that's a voice memo I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if it was odd for her watching the

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<v Speaker 4>show with you and there being moments where you were

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<v Speaker 4>probably surprised because something happened you forgot and she is

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<v Speaker 4>witnessing you who was in the show, not remembering it. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>she knows all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Well she started off the whole thing by saying,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wait, I can't tell you that until the next

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<v Speaker 3>is it the next episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're yeah, I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it back to back. I won't say it.

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<v Speaker 4>Peek behind the curtain, everybody. We are recording episodes seven,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two and eight oh one today, so we'll do

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<v Speaker 4>our best to not have them bleed into one another.

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<v Speaker 4>But we got two episodes on the brain.

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<v Speaker 3>But she knew she was just to jumping in ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, well, yeah, because blah blah blah happens. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, stop telling me, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. And she's looking at me like you

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<v Speaker 3>were on the show. How do you not know what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>But I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I purposely put my head in the sand.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't I didn't want to know because I would

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<v Speaker 3>like to be surprised, and then I didn't retain the information.

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<v Speaker 3>But I loved this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that also hearkens, though to the thing for

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<v Speaker 2>us of you when you do something for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>conservatively thirty five thousand hours of your life and then

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<v Speaker 2>it makes one hundred and eighty seven hours of a product, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, our memories are blurrier in thirty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>hours than they are for the folks who saw the

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<v Speaker 2>nice Tight one eighty seven with a perfect soundtrack. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of a perfect soundtrack, oh the music in seven twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>My god, they were crushing it. And what I loved

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<v Speaker 2>so much is that they gave you this really beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>opening where you see the kind of cognitive dissonance of

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<v Speaker 2>a joyful life and the experience of depression and that

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<v Speaker 2>through this sort of sinking moment in the water for Hayley,

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing her whole life and Mumford and Sons is

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<v Speaker 2>singing you are not alone in this.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just coming up. That was before Mumford was

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<v Speaker 3>really who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it just it hit me so hard. It

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<v Speaker 2>made me want to sob. And then the reversal of

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan going into the water, you know, years and years

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<v Speaker 2>before after Lucas and you screaming help me, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan jumping in the water to get you. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but this is a really excellent moment for

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<v Speaker 2>our writing. Well done. It was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there off the top of your head? Is there

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<v Speaker 4>a show with better music than One Tree Hill? Because

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<v Speaker 4>it is really consistent at a very high level.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I will say, the first show I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen, and I love music in general, I think

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<v Speaker 2>a score makes a movie or a series. The first

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<v Speaker 2>music that I've experienced watching a show where I've gone, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this feels familiar is the soundtrack to Nobody Wants This

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<v Speaker 2>to Adam Brody and Kristen Bell's show is It's like

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<v Speaker 2>full nostalgia City and there's something about it that reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of the way that we used music on our show.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe it's just this perfect millennial experience of like

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<v Speaker 2>the iconic backing to the big moments of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I wonder if that's really generational for

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<v Speaker 2>us in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't think of any other show, certainly not when

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<v Speaker 3>we were on the air. I mean, we cornered the

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<v Speaker 3>mark on that you came to our show to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to jump into a coda and yeah, experience the

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<v Speaker 3>emotion of and hear music that you because it was

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<v Speaker 3>we were transitioning out of the MySpace napster world and

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<v Speaker 3>into the new world of streaming. This was all happening

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<v Speaker 3>over the course of the ten years of our series,

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<v Speaker 3>so people were still coming to our show to hear

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<v Speaker 3>new music, and Lindsay was out Lindsay Wolfington was out

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<v Speaker 3>there hunting it all down, going to see live bands,

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<v Speaker 3>going to listen to listening to random CDs, getting sent

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<v Speaker 3>CDs from people she didn't know. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>we I think we've made and broke a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>musicians on our show because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she crushed it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean uncanny, how many people she found like on

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<v Speaker 4>the come up and just Lindsay Wolfington will.

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<v Speaker 3>Really need to have her on this show before we

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<v Speaker 3>really do we wrap up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, her hit rates.

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<v Speaker 2>Insane and by the way, to give her some of

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<v Speaker 2>her flowers. I remember one of the episodes that I

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<v Speaker 2>directed going out to La to cut, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>do the edit for a few days, and I brought

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny out with me because Jenny thought she might want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a music supervisor, and we went and had

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<v Speaker 2>lunch with Lindsay Wolfington while we were putting the show together.

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<v Speaker 2>And to your point, going through these stacks of CDs

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at the way that she saw it it

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<v Speaker 2>it was very much like watching a choreographer plan choreography

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<v Speaker 2>like it was it was physical and watching her, I

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<v Speaker 2>could see that she was looking at the shape of

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<v Speaker 2>an episode and what music would fit that space. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, she's truly like a total genius because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so much more than just dropping in a song

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<v Speaker 3>that feels good in the moment. You want to create,

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<v Speaker 3>like what you're saying, create an arc that will have

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<v Speaker 3>callbacks at the end of the episode or other moments

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<v Speaker 3>that mirror what some characters are going through with different

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<v Speaker 3>characters and feeling like you're bringing back the same vibe

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<v Speaker 3>even though you may not use the same song twice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the whole energy of a scene can change.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. There's so much control in the hands of

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<v Speaker 3>the music supervisor to be able to tell the audience

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<v Speaker 3>how they're supposed to feel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I will say, during that opening code of with

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<v Speaker 4>Haley's underwater and we're seeing all these like sweet flashbacks,

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<v Speaker 4>it made me realize just how much of the show

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen, Like there is so much One Tree

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<v Speaker 4>Hill that I am completely unaware of. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe Drahm McQueen's two point zero is just us

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<v Speaker 4>redoing it for my sake.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, honestly, please, I want just you. I want the

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<v Speaker 2>live stream commentary like when we used to have to

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<v Speaker 2>do episode commentary and record it live. I want live

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<v Speaker 2>stream commentary of rob doing the top ten hit episodes

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<v Speaker 2>from the first six seasons. I want it so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>We need Robin Tyler doing that to Yeah. There, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I need to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, speaking of musical geniuses, that guy he

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<v Speaker 4>scored his wife Megan's film and he was over at

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<v Speaker 4>our house the other day and he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>do you mind if I just play this really quick?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the temp tracks. He is so talented. The

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<v Speaker 4>scores were gorgeous, and it's one of those things like

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<v Speaker 4>I have if I really want to like boggle my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>I think about how a vinyl record works, because truly

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<v Speaker 4>it is magic. I have no idea how a piece

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<v Speaker 4>of plastic in a needle traps someone's voice from a

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<v Speaker 4>different era, and like, either it's witchcraft, right and watch

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<v Speaker 4>listening to his music, I was like, how did you know?

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<v Speaker 4>And he was like, oh, on this one, I just

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<v Speaker 4>it was so funny. One point he goes, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>this one could use what did he say? Like a flute?

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<v Speaker 4>But I didn't know how to play a flute, so

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<v Speaker 4>I went out and bought one and taught myself. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>so the flute on the track is you? And he

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<v Speaker 4>said yeah. I said, like, who just goes, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it could use. It was just like again,

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<v Speaker 4>different skill set I am. It's all Latin to me,

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<v Speaker 4>but like you're it's beautiful, sorcery Tyler.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, it's incredible. Have you seen it? Have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen my old ass? No, I'm dying too, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I mean the Fallout obviously was so brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>It took the world by storm to see Megan go

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<v Speaker 2>from making this film about the experience of a teenager

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<v Speaker 2>who survives a school shooting to then going to make

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<v Speaker 2>this on the precipice of change, going to college. What's

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<v Speaker 2>it going to be?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do I push myself out of the nest? Like

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<v Speaker 2>coming of age story that is so joyful and so tender.

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<v Speaker 2>She's my hero like this in the same way Tyler

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<v Speaker 2>makes music. I'm like, Megan, how did you? How do

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<v Speaker 2>you just make worlds? You know, like we step into

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<v Speaker 2>worlds and we become a part of them. But she

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<v Speaker 2>makes a whole world. I'm amazed. I'm amazed by all

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<v Speaker 2>of our friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah to Hollywood's got a new power couple on the way.

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<v Speaker 4>But Liz get back. Okay, So the first thing I noticed,

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<v Speaker 4>little peak behind the curtain again for everybody joy was

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<v Speaker 4>your therapist, played by none other than our sweet, sweet

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<v Speaker 4>producer Greg Prange.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see a therapist. I thought it was just

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<v Speaker 3>on me over his shoulders.

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<v Speaker 4>You never shoot, Yeah, we shoot over his shoulder. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's Greg's silver hair, and that is certainly Greg's voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably, yeah, it probably was. I thought I might have

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<v Speaker 3>been listening to some commentary at the moment. I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I was looking at my shoes because everybody

0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.800
<v Speaker 3>keeps writing in about shoes on the couch and I

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting there with my boots on the therapists white couch.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm insecure about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like, why did I do that for so long?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure it was Greg. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked, you know, especially because we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this before. You know, Rob, this is in the land

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<v Speaker 2>of things you haven't seen. But Nathan went through a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty dark time, culminating in like a really scary car accident.

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<v Speaker 2>We obviously had lots of those. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of crying for help he was doing as a young kid,

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<v Speaker 2>as a teen, and it felt like it didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>get taken very seriously. Yeah, you know, and when we

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<v Speaker 2>were watching those episodes, Hillary had pointed out that is

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<v Speaker 2>the mom of a teenage boy. If her son was

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<v Speaker 2>talking that way, like, he'd go to therapy immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And we just.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't have that language then, and so I made a

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<v Speaker 2>note that it's it's so cool that we did this

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<v Speaker 2>role reversal where you know, Nathan goes to save Lucas

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<v Speaker 2>and Haley screaming, and then out of Haley screaming, Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>saves Haley. And I wrote, and it's so nice to

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<v Speaker 2>actually see her go to therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Like, that's right, She's been holding everything up for

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else and finally just collapsed into it, like why

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<v Speaker 3>am I doing this? What about me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, and also, it's not selfish to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of yourself. It's actually the most important thing you can do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was so nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think in some ways, to be in a

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<v Speaker 3>position where you're just taking care of everybody else all

0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:18.480
<v Speaker 3>the time, can it can just be masking And clearly

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what Haley was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, because if you keep yourself busy with everyone else

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<v Speaker 4>outside of you, you never have to really deal with

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on inside you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was a really cool theme of reconnection

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<v Speaker 4>in this episode. I would say it like there was

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<v Speaker 4>two themes. It was first one was fun because this

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<v Speaker 4>episode was just so much Yeah, up until that last

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<v Speaker 4>little little Seini poopy. Yeah, yeah, but it was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would say reconnection because you know, we see

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<v Speaker 4>and it begins it's like Hailey reconnecting with herself. She's

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<v Speaker 4>actually going inwards and she's doing the work, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>Hailey reconnecting with Jamie and with Nathan. Then we see

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<v Speaker 4>Mouth reconnecting with Skills, and then we just see all

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<v Speaker 4>of the friends, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Broke and Julian are reconnecting too. They've been like really

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<v Speaker 3>diving into that.

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<v Speaker 4>That one kind of started a little bit ago, but

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<v Speaker 4>they are like fully in the throes of it in

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<v Speaker 4>a grin. And then even just I think my favorite

0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.240
<v Speaker 4>shot might have been it's it's a random throwaway like

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<v Speaker 4>piece of a scene where it's it's the four boys.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's like, I think it's Skills, don't Skills Mouth,

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<v Speaker 4>Julian me Chase. Maybe it's when we're out in the

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<v Speaker 4>snow and we are just running and jumping and falling

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<v Speaker 4>into the snow. Yes, And never has a group of

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<v Speaker 4>grown men looked more like little boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Never great.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was like you could see all of

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<v Speaker 4>our innergy like I don't even know if it was

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<v Speaker 4>something that the director had like instructed us to do,

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<v Speaker 4>because if you just look, we are like just flailing

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<v Speaker 4>about and throwing our snows in the snow and giggling purely.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they just rolled the cameras and said go,

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<v Speaker 3>and you guys are like, sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like, because Jackson leaps into the snow, you

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<v Speaker 2>all decide to follow, which is sort of perfect because

0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 2>this little boy does something and then suddenly all these

0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:10.919
<v Speaker 2>very tall grown men look like little boys. And it

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<v Speaker 2>made me laugh. I wrote Bunny leaps because you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are like hopping and I thought you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>fall into like a snow drift. There's no drift, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the ground. You all just hit the ground. I

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<v Speaker 2>was screaming, laughing. It was so innocent. Sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved that. I really loved that trip, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was bittersweet. I mean, there was there were

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<v Speaker 3>parts of it where when I was watching Haley watching

0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.400
<v Speaker 3>you guys at the window, that's a lot of how

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<v Speaker 3>I was feeling in my own real life with everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there were parts of that trip that felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm looking back, I'm like, man, I wish I

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.679
<v Speaker 3>had been in a different place in my life to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to really enjoy it with everybody, but I

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<v Speaker 3>member when we walked into the the that house that enormous.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't even want to call it a house.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a It was like a resort resort. And

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<v Speaker 3>I had one moment. You guys were off filming something

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and I remember walking around. It was a big empty

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:24.639
<v Speaker 3>house and we had rented it out for filming, but

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it was for sale maybe. And I had

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<v Speaker 3>a very very genuine moment in my life where I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>what would happen if I just didn't go home? Like

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<v Speaker 3>I just made a bed and breakfast and I stayed

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<v Speaker 3>here and I just went forever wanted to shoot for

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 3>But like, like I guess I could keep filming, But

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<v Speaker 3>like what if I just never went back to where

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<v Speaker 3>I live?

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<v Speaker 2>Day here?

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<v Speaker 3>I was so it felt so tangible, And I always

0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.360
<v Speaker 3>feel like that when I think of park City, because

0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 3>it was so magical I had. I had not spent

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time in wintery ski resort environments. Had

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<v Speaker 3>you guys in life, is this something that you were

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<v Speaker 3>used to? It felt so magical to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing these like really special snow trips every

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 2>President's Day weekend with a core group of my best

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 2>friends when yeah, probably when I was like twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so right around this time. Yeah, yeah, the snow getaway.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we obviously weren't staying in you know, for sale,

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 2>multimillion dollar mansions. We were like cramming into little ski

0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>hostel places. But same, same ish. There's something about that

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 2>cold adventure, come back fire like cup of rawmen thing

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.399
<v Speaker 2>that is so special. And you know, it's interesting you

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 2>say that, Joy, I made my notes for the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's something I think about what everyone's been

0:21:55.080 --> 0:22:01.160
<v Speaker 2>processing together in our little family group over the last

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. There were just all these things I

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.679
<v Speaker 2>could see in this episode that I didn't know at

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:09.959
<v Speaker 2>the time that I know now that gave me that

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 2>same kind of feeling where I was like, wow, I

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.640
<v Speaker 2>wish I wish we all hadn't been under so much

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to like just come to work and be professional,

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>because in a way, you wouldn't risk your professionalism to

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<v Speaker 2>say certain things or you know, gamble on something that

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>you might in your own life. And so I know

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.200
<v Speaker 2>it's different, but I know you know what I'm talking about. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say this authentically but also not give

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's lives away. But you know, because there's strangers who

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>listened to this, but you weren't the only person like

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 2>you weren't the only person feeling that. I think we

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:56.440
<v Speaker 2>all I think the nostalgia is partially so special because

0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 2>we're like, man, if we all hadn't been keeping so

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 2>many things together in our personal lives, maybe maybe the

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 2>time could have been like as personal for us as

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 2>it looks for our characters. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's weird about is watching, like watching us experience

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 3>what we wanted personally to be experiencing with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like my body has this muscle memory of

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<v Speaker 3>these great experiences and watching you guys. And also there

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.199
<v Speaker 3>were some great moments. I mean there were times like

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 3>when the cameras were rolling, it was like this, this

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 3>is fake, but it's also real, Like I love these people,

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I would go to battle with these people. I love

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 3>this crew, yep. But when the cameras stop rolling, there's

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 3>all these weird personal complicated like situations and insecurities and

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>things that were just we were under a mountain of

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 3>six seven years of complex issues that how do you like.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not even just our complex issues, right, it's also

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the complex issues of your life at home, like you're

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 2>referring me that you can't I guess I just want

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>to like clarify for people listening, because they're probably like,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>what's the drama? Rom's earlier point, what was the drama?

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.919
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, no, that's not it. It's like the

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>characters are each other's best friends in every sense of

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the word. And for us as co workers and friends

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and people in this very bizarre, muddled professional personal space,

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>there were parts of our I'm doing a pie chart

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>for the people at home who can't see me. There

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 2>are like parts of the circle where there's best friendship,

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and then there's parts of the circle where all these

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>people have things going on at home that they don't

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable to talk about yet, so we're keeping secrets.

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And then there's other spaces where you know, for professionalism,

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 2>your your acquaintances, but also you really love this person

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 2>who's your acquaintance, but at this moment you don't share

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 2>a best friendship, and they're in a washing so they're

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>cyclical at all times and they're moving around all the time,

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 2>and then you're away together and you're like, I love

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>you so much. And I also haven't, like, I haven't

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>told my mom about this thing I'm struggling with yet,

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>so I'm certainly not going to talk about it at

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 2>work while I'm wearing a hot microphone. And it just

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>makes the weirdest dynamic because you're like, you're my people,

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>And also is any of this real? And I think

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>it's very real? But what if it isn't? And it

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>makes you feel so held and also like a complete

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>crazy person.

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And it was easy on set when we were in Wilmington.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 3>We had gotten into a routine with it, so we

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 3>sort of had figured out compartmentalized yet where the emotions

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 3>go at what time and how we so? But getting away,

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 3>we're now at this weird summer camp version of life

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and work and suddenly it was like the rules don't apply,

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 3>but do they? But they don't, but they do, and

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 3>how are we? So I was feeling all that watching

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 3>this episode back, like there was so much more emotion

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 3>and for me in this episode than so many before.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>There's also a thing where to your point in Wilmington,

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>when things were overwhelming in your life, you could go

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>home and like watch a movie alone in your apartment.

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 2>But we were on vacation for a week together, living together,

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and I remember looking at you trying to be like,

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to and being like, oh, you

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 2>came by yourself and you were like, uh huh. And

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 2>we just looked at each other and I was like,

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>are we going to talk about why he's not here?

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to talk about it. We don't have

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. You want to get something to eat, like,

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and there's two hundred people around, so of course we're

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>not going to talk about it. And it's just such

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 2>a weird. Oh my god. I think about what we

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 2>survived in the fact that any of us are virtually normal,

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's a miracle.

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I do remember that, Oh my gosh. And then what's

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 3>crazy is I got sorry Rob. I feel like we're

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 3>just like a little couple of hens.

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Just no, this is.

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I love Rob because he's just nodding.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, look at the girls processing their feelings. So sweet.

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>This is such good dad energy. He's so.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, honeys, when did we shoot this? Do

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 3>we know when we shot this episode? It aired in May?

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 3>It would have been we think like February March.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember because sometimes we would do the travel

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 2>episodes a little ahead, like we'd shoot the last episode

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>early so that we could like get the equipment back

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and then be shooting an episode while they were, you know,

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>figuring all this stuff out. So I would say this

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 2>had to be like end of March.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So I got pregnant very soon after this. And

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 3>what's interesting is I mean I ended up leaving anyway, obviously,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I at the marriage in my bad situation,

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 3>but yeah that when we got to Utah, I remember

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 3>feeling so much more free because I got to a

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 3>point in my life where I was like, this is

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 3>something's wrong, something's not working, this is bad, this is like,

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 3>this is funky, and I was really fed up with

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the stuff that I was going through

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 3>that I wrote in my book. But when we got

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>to Utah, I was like, I felt so much more

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>like myself. And I remember that moment with you so

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 3>just feeling as though I wanted to tell you everything

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to dive in, but I was still

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 3>torn between the sense of loyalty and being classy, especially

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>when you're married and you don't want to betray your

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>spouse or your partner and it's like how much can

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I say? And yeah, that was It's so interesting that

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I had that feeling there. That was a very critical

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 3>moment in my life where I was like, am I

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 3>gonna talk my marriage? Am I gonna like just stay

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 3>here in Utah and open up a bed and breakfast

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 3>and keep working on this show and just disappear. And

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>I could have done it. It was like another cross

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 3>of my life, Like, yeah, every moment that I experienced

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 3>with you guys fed into that very real need that

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 3>I had to extract myself from a very bad situation.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 3>And so that all that happened while we were shooting

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 3>this episode. And if I hadn't gone back, well I

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have my daughter. So I'm glad that I did.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>But it was it was a turning point in my life.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I get it, and I mean I think

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 2>about it for you all the time, especially like your

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Utah was my London, and like I didn't know any

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>of those people. I mean, I die for them. They're

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>like three of the loveliest humans I've ever worked with.

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, I can't tell anyone what's going

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>on here, Like it's not appropriate to bring your stuff

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>to work, and and I think about it in a

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>weird way. You and all the conversations I mean that

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>we've had, like about your book and all the other

0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>things over the last few months in particular, like made

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 2>me go oh, of course, because I had this bit

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>of guilt being like why couldn't I just say it,

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Like why did I try to keep it up for

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>so long? And it's like cause you're trying to do

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the right thing, and you're thinking maybe it's a phase.

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>And everyone says, you know, don't bring what's hard in

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>your house into your friendships. Save that for therapy, save

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>it for whatever. Never tell that's disrespectful to your spouse.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. I think when you finally say it,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you can think about it and think about it and

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>think about it and think about it and think about

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it for however long and nobody gets to judge that.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>But it's like the minute you say it out loud,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>you can never unsay it, you can't take it back,

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and like the snowball is on its way down the mountain.

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Finally yeah, and again like oh it's the Mumford lyric.

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Who No, I'm gonna cry, Like.

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>You are not alone in that in this Yeah, you know,

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 3>we think we are so often.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Look at these travel episodes. Just bring it up all

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>marsh I'm very out of us everyone.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 4>We we were so much younger, and I don't I'll

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 4>speak for myself because I relate to what you're saying.

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Enjoy I very much listen. In my entire career, if

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 4>there was one job I could I could do a

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 4>do over on, it would be One Tree Hill. Because

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.719
<v Speaker 4>I now, as an adult in this place where I'm

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 4>in life, I see how much I enjoy the people

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 4>who were a part of it, who at the time

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I just didn't really have the ability to connect with

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>the way I can now. So on this episode I

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 4>felt that especially so I was because I was watching

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 4>what an incredible experience it was and remembering, like you're saying, joy,

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of feeling like I was watching my life through

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 4>like a window, you know, like wow, like I'm witnessing you.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Guys were just like having a ball. Everybody was in

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 3>it but me, but we were all feeling that.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah I was.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 4>I was watching it, but I wasn't experiencing it, And

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 4>a little bit like to kind of what we're saying though,

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 4>It's like because I didn't have the language back then,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, probably the same way so that you didn't

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 4>have the language to maybe ask the question or hold

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 4>the space whatever it is you would have liked to

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 4>have done ten years ago, you know. But like part

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 4>of the reason everyone I kept it at arm's length

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 4>is because I didn't know how to talk about what

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 4>was going on, you know, And I think that's kind

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 4>of something that to Wondergre or another we all were experiencing.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And not only were we so young, did we not

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>have the language. We weren't in the time that we're

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 2>in now twenty years ago, where everyone understands the language

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>of mental health. It wasn't a conversation and we were

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>kids and at work, like that day will be burned

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>in my memory forever, like looking at you and being

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>like I'm going to try to crack the door. But

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 2>then it was like, oh my god, I tried to

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>crack the door and she doesn't want to open it,

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 2>and like I should not be asking about this at work.

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>This is so inappropriate. And it always was the fear

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of like we have to be really care fall at work.

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think now we understand how to do two

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>things at once.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 3>We're human beings like we Yes, we are not our work.

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Our work is an extension of us, but we have

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 3>to be human first. But it's hard. That's hard. It's

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 3>just hard to navigate. And as you said, we were kids, yeah, and.

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 4>There was none of the quote unquote grown ups we're

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 4>modeling healthy behavior. Yeah. So in other words, there was

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 4>no one setting a precedent above us of going, hey

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 4>you good. Never it was, so it sort of was.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 4>It made it easier to just not bring it up,

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 4>or I should say it made it harder to want

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>to bring things to the surface because no one above

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 4>us was doing it and showing us that it was

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 4>okay to do well.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, if anyone ever did, they got

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>yelled at.

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's an immense amount of pressure and it

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 3>so you learn you have to be professional. It's there

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>are millions of dollars riding on you showing up on time,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>saying your lines, being emotionally ready for your scene, and

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>doing exactly what we're asking you to do. Millions of dollars,

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of jobs and it's all on you right now.

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 3>So sorry, if you're having a hard time in your

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 3>personal life, go deal with it later.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, so you get really good at like show up,

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>shut up, and then do the dance when they say action.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 4>All right, if we're going to talk about doing the dance,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 4>we got to talk about skills. Coat. Because as I

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 4>watched your episody.

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 2>God, thank god Rob brought us.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:44.839
<v Speaker 4>Back, I found myself going, I think I remember that

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 4>the bit was supposed to be that it was an

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 4>ugly coat, like it was obnoxious that. I gotta tell you,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 4>forty three year old me watching this episode was like,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.959
<v Speaker 4>that coat is dope. Yeah, I would love to own

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 4>that coat.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, same and I was like, who man

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to get that coat in the wardrobe sale because I

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 2>hope Antoine, Like I really hope Antoine has it, and

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 2>if Lee secretly has it in the back of his closet,

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I will die.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 4>The shot of mouth dancing in the club with the

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 4>jacket on and the higher club all of the women

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 4>circled around to him. First of all, I loved it

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.479
<v Speaker 4>because that's just such a funny image, but it also

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 4>made me laugh, like when does that ever happen in

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 4>real life? It doesn't. It only happens in movies, Like

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 4>unless you're throwing money out. No one in the club

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 4>is stopping. Everyone at the same time is stopping what

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 4>they're doing to just circle around you and cheer you on. Yeah,

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 4>only movies.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.959
<v Speaker 3>Never, That's just it was what it felt like to mouth.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 3>That's how it felt to him. We were just experiencing

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>his experience. Wow, Okay, I don't know. That's how I

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 3>say it a sort.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Of premonition for episode eight oh one. Yeah, we're in

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>the mental experience is so good.

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 4>That in that club sequence was one of my favorite

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 4>lines so far of the entire series, where Quinn decides

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 4>she's going to go dance. She's like, I'm gonna go dance,

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 4>and Clay's like, great, I'm gonna sit here and drink.

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 4>And then a few moments later, Skills walks her back

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 4>to Clay and he says she was sexy until she

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 4>started dancing, and then and then it puts her in

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 4>her seat.

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>She just sits her down.

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 4>It was I didn't remember it. It caught me so off guard,

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 4>but I thought it was so darn funny. Man, that's

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 4>so good.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Your face cracked me up. Rob In when you were

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>in the club. It was the first shot in the club.

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 3>We were walking around and we're seeing Clay wander and

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 3>you walk past Alex grinding on chase and yeah.

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>It was so good. I wrote down that look for you.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>And then I also loved that when Skills plops Quinn

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 2>down and she and Tell does such a good beat

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>of that like physical comedy, where like she gets plopped

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 2>down like a rag doll the way children do, and

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you just you deadpan lost the beat. Oh that was

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:16.720
<v Speaker 2>sod cackled with the whole storyline about her losing things

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and then lose the beat.

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:19.280
<v Speaker 4>It's good.

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 2>It was perfect. I had so much fun watching you

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>in all those club scenes. It was great.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 4>I had fun shooting those. I remember shooting because again,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 4>it was one of those things where, like you said,

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.439
<v Speaker 4>we're in this bubble, we're all together randomly, like we're

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 4>not normally all together, and we're all in the same scene.

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.720
<v Speaker 4>Everything was just new and different. But I just remember

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 4>it being a very fun day, like high energy day

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 4>on set because like most of us were all there,

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, dancing to music that wasn't one, which

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 4>is always so much fun.

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, here's my dream right now. There's got

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 3>to be a brand out there that needs a commercial

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 3>that they could just send us all back to Utah

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 3>and we could do like a mini minute long recreation

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 3>of moments from the Utah episodes. We could all just

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 3>have like a little bite in time, like a snack,

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 3>just a little snack to recapture, Mohali what we need

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 3>to really like walk away with in our bones, all

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 3>the good stuff that we always wanted.

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that would be so great. I'm so

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>into it.

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 4>You know what, one moment I think people would not

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 4>be itching to relive, specifically one cast member. I'm thinking

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 4>the whole sequence of poor Chantelle, oh my god, getting

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 4>locked out and having to parade around in her bikini. Listen,

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 4>I've said it before, I'll say it again, Monster team player. Yeah,

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 4>when she committed, she did it, but it was the

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 4>the hat on a hat of a shooting it close

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 4>up of her butt as she walked to the table

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 4>and you cut back to the close up of her

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 4>butt as she leaves. Yeah.

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So she was a true disappointing.

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's one of those things too, right, is like,

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at our friend, like she's a supermodel.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>At the time, everyone was like, damn girl, like go

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>off or whatever. We were saying in twenty ten and

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 2>obviously the journeys we've all been on together since then,

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Like it made me really sad because I was like, oh,

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking like this is one of those moments

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>where like you hear all your friends' moms being like

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>if you got it fluted, like you're gonna want to

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 2>know what your body looked like at this age someday,

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>like all those things that like the older ladies say

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to you when they've had three glasses of white wine.

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>And now like now watching it, it makes me feel

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>so uncomfortable and so sad for her, and I'm like, damn,

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 2>we just like.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 3>We failed on that, well, just none of us.

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>We weren't communicating. Then we've communicated since, but I hate

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 2>it and it makes me so angry, and knowing who

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>directed this episode, it makes me so angry. And you know,

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>she had to go through this whole sequence first of all,

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 2>in the freezing snow in yeah, you know, essentially her

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>underwear and act like it wasn't a big deal, and

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, God bless her. She looked incredible. But then

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>like even the gag about like I lose things with

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys, the club stuff is so funny, the key bit,

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 2>all of it. I get it, and like, you have

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>to basically do the exact same scene just you and

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 2>her in the bedroom, and I was like, man, she

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>went through it. She did a beautiful job. You're right,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 2>ultimate team player, but she went through it.

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.919
<v Speaker 3>It felt like it was just a reminder for all

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 3>the kids out there, all the girls watching the show, like, Hey,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>just a reminder men are in charge and this is

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 3>all about what we want, like that you're sitting here

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 3>watching a fun episode of a teen soap opera to

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 3>enjoy all these characters and the romance stories. And I've

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the snowball fight with the snowball fight, but just a

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 3>reminder the old guys are in charge. Yeah.

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And you know what really solidified that for me and

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 2>made it feel so icky is when there's that sequence

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>where she walks into the cafe to get the key

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 2>from you Rob. There is a specific shot like from

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the center of her body to a close up on

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>the reaction of a background actor who is absolutely old

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>enough to be her father, if not older. And I

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, we're going to prioritize letting some dude

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 2>we don't know, We're gonna he's gonna be directed to

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 2>stare at this woman's ass and we're going to film it.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about being directed to be embarrassed and look

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 3>away like, oh gosh, I don't want to look at this.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Young like oho, geez.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of guys who would do that

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 3>if I walked into a restaurant in a bikini, And

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 3>there are plenty of older guys that I know who

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 3>would look for you and then.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Look away, Yes, for you a coat.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 4>That's right, you know what it is. It is the

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 4>It is the equivalent of this recent trend of like

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 4>the ice bucket being dropped in slow motion, Clay's beer

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 4>bottle being dropped in slow mo. It's this really hacky

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 4>way of hammering home a point that the audience is

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 4>smart enough. They don't they don't need They doesn't need

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 4>to be hammered home. Listen Sean tells in the shot,

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 4>everyone can see she's incredibly fit and beautiful. You don't

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 4>need to cut to a third party who we've never met,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 4>going wah wah, wee wah, like we're all having the

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 4>same mixes roadrunners.

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It's so it's so dumb, and also to your point,

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 2>why not say key beat beat coat and makes like

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, or even you could have done it. You

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>could have handed her the key and then said and

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>coat like you guys could have had a bit. It

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't need to be.

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 3>How about an older gentleman walking up and sank.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Tyre, would you like my coat?

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.280
<v Speaker 3>She takes it and then looks at Clay and skills

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 3>and mouth like, y'all a bunch of chumps, not why

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 3>you offered me a coat?

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dude, how about Clay? It's your boyfriend? Are you?

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me? If Jenny showed up someplace in

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 4>twenty degree weather in her bikini, I mean, there's a

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 4>lot of questions that, there's a lot of follow questions,

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 4>But the first thing I would do would be like,

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, take my coat. You cycle, Well, the first.

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Thing you do is fall on the floor laughing. If

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>she looked like that in a hat and a bikini

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 3>and snow boots, and then you'd probably offer.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, a coat would be in the equation at

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 4>some point.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Quests of course.

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, you guys managed to make it

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 2>as icky as it feels to us now, you managed

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to make it very hilarious. Yeah, And that's really hats

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>off to all of you as actors. It also kind

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 2>of made me, I guess them, like laugh a little

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>more when you know, Nathan parades Jamie out of the

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>movie and is like, you open on a sex scene.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Great job, and I'm like, okay, so yeah, I'm like,

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>there there's a line somewhere. It's apparently with the seven

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 2>year old, but like, okay, yeah, okay, we're at least

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna we're gonna have a boundary, I suppose. But I

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 2>like the buddy comedy of that, Like the the Julian

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and Jamie buddy comedy is very cute to me, and

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 2>then kind of perusing you know, the scene and then

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 2>going to the bar and Julian getting a beer and

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>the kid getting a root beer.

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 3>And like, I loved that.

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 2>It was all just so cute. And I like that

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 2>a seven year old like gives attitude to a grown

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 2>up and then the grown up gives it right back,

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>like they're really bugs.

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 4>How about when he says to Chase, he goes, who

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 4>are you? And Chase is like, it's me and then

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 4>he goes, whatever, you're no grubs. That was great. So

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 4>did you catch the Peanuts Snoopy little homage where he

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 4>is just laying on top of the snake. It glue,

0:44:58.239 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 4>just like Snoopy would do on top.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Of the Yeah, I didn't catch that. That's great. It

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 3>was really glue that they built on set for us.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember, by the way, I have notes about that.

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, the igloo was it was fake?

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember it being fake, and then I thought, I thought,

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. Of course we did the interiors on

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 2>set because they could only have one half of it

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 2>up because they needed to get the cameras on the

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 2>other side. And that's why when when Haley says to Brook,

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't have to check on me, and

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>my response to you is, I'm not. I just needed

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 2>some ice for my cocktail. I had to like scrape

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the spray yeah whatever that was fake snow off the wall,

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 2>and then obviously not drink it because it's poisoned. And

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like, god, I hate that we didn't get

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>a reset with like a prop person then being like, okay, pause,

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>swap and do the thing so it looked real like

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I just did this, and then was like disgusting, and

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 2>then I never drank it for the rest of the scene.

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I have a question for the two of you, because

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 4>there was a shot in the coda of the two

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 4>of you in that igloo. Yeah, and then Quinn enters yes,

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 4>and then the two of you start cracking up and

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 4>she kind of looks like embarrassed or something, and again

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 4>it's codas, there's no there's no dialogue. Do you remember

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 4>was that Was it scripted that way or did you

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 4>guys just did something funny happen?

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I do not. I remember that the iglu paint was wet,

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 3>and they were like, don't get your hair on the

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 3>wall of the igloo, and so we had like we

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 3>were leaning against the wall, except we couldn't actually lean

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:33.720
<v Speaker 3>on it. That was weird.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I recall, and I wonder if

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it is what made us laugh. I think it was

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 2>probably on the first pass, because you know, they have

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Brook go check on Haley and then Quinn comes in,

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 2>and I remember the three of us being in there

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 2>for quite some time, which is why it was weird

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to me that it cut from the two of us

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>to the three of us and then back to the

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.399
<v Speaker 2>two of us. But I do remember the first time

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 2>that Chantel tried to get in because we sort of

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>had to sit close enough to the entrance that we

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 2>could establish that we were in the little igloo. And

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 2>she obviously has like, you know, legs the length of

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Heidi Clumes, and when she tried to get in, because

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 2>she had so little room, one of her legs got

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 2>stuck and it was like, you know, she just like

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 2>tried to swing and it wasn't it wasn't enough of

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>like a turning radius for her, because she's again a supermodel,

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and Joy and I are short, and we were like,

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 2>it was very funny. And I wonder if that's what

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 2>we were like, if that's.

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 3>The scene that had to have been it, right? I

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 3>think it was, Oh, that's so good. I wish we'd

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 3>actually shown that that's so funny.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>But then what I don't understand is like, why didn't

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 2>we just keep rolling on the three of us for

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the rest of it? Where did she go? Yeah?

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Where did she go? Does she have to go back

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 3>out to hang out with?

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.479
<v Speaker 3>She had to know because you guys are back home. Yeah,

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.399
<v Speaker 3>That might have just been a coda out of order

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 3>thing when they were editing, they just pushed it out

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 3>of order.

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they probably liked the way that Dolly was moving

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and we're like, no, one I'll notice, and it's like

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 2>we all noticed, guys, all of us.

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 4>Did you notice? Okay, there's some bigger stuff I gotta

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 4>get to. But before we do it, when we're in

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 4>the premiere of In Julian's premiere, there's a shot shooting

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 4>towards the audience right where the camera kind of think

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 4>starts up at maybe the projection booth, and it pans

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 4>down to eventually find our characters. Before it gets there, though,

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 4>there's this odd thing where there's a girl smack in

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 4>the middle of frame who appears to be nodding off. No,

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 4>and I was, but here's the deal. She's not fully

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:34.360
<v Speaker 4>asleep and she's not drowsy, she's like actively nodding off.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 4>And I was so confused, Like did the director tell her?

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Like is that was that supposed to be? Like not

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 4>everyone's liking the film or was it her choice to

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 4>stand out? But if you go back and watch it,

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 4>everyone is engrossed in the film except the one girl

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 4>square in the middle of the shot is like dozing

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 4>and nodding off.

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I missed it because my notes for

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that was, Oh, I love that. When we panned down,

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>you see everyone in tears because the movie's so good. Yeah,

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody's crying. And I so I missed her because I

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 2>was looking at all of you.

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Well there you go, there's your eastreak to go back

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 4>and you visit right. Okay, So two things I did

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 4>not remember happening. Uh. First of all, Haley being pregnant.

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 4>I was that caught me completely off guard. I don't

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 4>know that storyline at all, and I didn't realize I

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 4>knew this would happen eventually, but that this was the episode.

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Julian Purpole, he was so slick with it.

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Right before he put the He's like, Jamie gave me

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 3>a gold star. You want to see it? And my

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 3>brain went to, oh, he's gonna maybe he's going to

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 3>give her a ring and so but I wasn't sure

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 3>because I just didn't remember. So it was really satisfying.

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 3>And your face, Sophia, Oh my gosh, Oh that was

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 3>such pure shock and joy. It was lovely.

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>It was so so sweet.

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 4>You two did such a great job with that scene.

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 4>It was so sweet, and I was really appreciative that

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 4>they didn't do the thing of leaning into Julian being

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.440
<v Speaker 4>awkward and goofy, and they actually just let him have

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 4>a moment where he wasn't tripping over himself and he

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 4>was calm and collected, because I think it gave the

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 4>scene so much more weight and impact. Yeah, yeah, there

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 4>was no distraction. It was just about him being in

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 4>love with you and wanting to marry you.

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And what I loved about it for them too,

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 2>is this whole sort of journey that they've been on together.

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, Brooke really having to learn to let her

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 2>walls down and let someone in even though that's a risk.

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, Julian having to figure out how to not

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 2>just be you know, the writer who's writing stories where

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 2>someone saves the girl, but like a person who's a

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 2>partner to someone, the sort of choice to do this,

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean a in the most beautiful setting anywhere, come

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 2>on in the aspen trees in Utah, but out in

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the quiet. There was something that really struck me watching

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 2>it all these years later, about how these two people

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 2>have these really busy lives and they've been through all

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 2>these crazy things and they're in the quietest place and

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>they just get to have this moment alone and it

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 2>gave it this kind of groundedness for me that then

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 2>when he started talking about how back there, back in

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the noise, back in the work, that everyone says is

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 2>my identity. Everyone's saying, the next choice I make is

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 2>going to define me, my career, my life. And the

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>next thing I wanted to do is this to leave

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 2>everything but you and make it about you and me.

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, God, the happenstance of Utah being the

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 2>place we went for this episode gave the proposal so

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 2>much more weight for me as a viewer than I

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>think it would have had had it happened anywhere we

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 2>were used to seeing. You know, Yep, it's really special.

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And that's the helpfulness with the reconnecting too. Sometimes

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 3>it helps to just get outside of the regular zone

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 3>of influence and regular patterns, and Hayley's reconnecting with herself

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 3>with her family being able to be out in the quiet.

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 3>The whole owl thing, guys, by the way, that owl

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 3>was terrifying.

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I have pictures of all of us and that owl somewhere.

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 4>Nop That owl was scary. I thought one of us

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 4>was gonna leave with a permanent scar.

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 3>That owl was so terrifying, and I had to, you know,

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 3>they bring it out, and because I was the one

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 3>working with it, they were like, we're gonna have a moment.

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have a work session with the owl. So

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 3>they're going to put it on your arm, and like

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 3>they had a glove and a whole thing. And I

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:46.760
<v Speaker 3>don't like. I don't scare easy. My fight or flight

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.880
<v Speaker 3>instinct is usually fight, and I'm a problem solver. I'm

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.879
<v Speaker 3>a great person to have in a crisis. Man, I'm

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 3>telling you. They put that bird on my arm, and

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this thing is made out of knives

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 3>and it is going to attack my face. And I'm

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 3>just staring at it and it doesn't blink, and it's

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 3>like soul liess and I'm like, oh my god, or

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's got so much soul and I'm terrified. I

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know what it was. But by the way, thank God.

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Watching you tell this story, I'm like, that owl knew

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 2>you weren't being honest with yourself joy and was looking

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 2>into your eyes and you hated it because it was

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 2>staring at you. It was mirroring into my soul. The

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>rest of us would be like, hey, you good, And

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 2>then it would be like beat, beat, and you'd be

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and we'd be like okay, see you later

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and run and the owl was like.

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going anywhere, little girl. That's right. I'm not flinching.

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 4>And in the owl's defense, the first thing you said

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 4>to it when you walked up in the work session

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 4>was hey, so, how many lukes does it take to

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 4>get to the center of the tosipo? You know, so, like,

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 4>obviously that's not what it wanted to hear. Everyone says

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 4>that to it.

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like, stop deflecting. You're in pain, You're dealing

0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 3>with things in your life and you need to face

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.880
<v Speaker 3>it right now. I'm gonna stare at you with my

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 3>knife face and my knife hands. I love that you

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 3>called it.

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 2>A knife face. That beak. Those talents, the talons are scary.

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 2>What was interesting to me was watching because we talked

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 2>about how this was coming, and obviously we'd all had

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 2>this wild day watching you work with this bird and

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 2>doing the things, even though it looked like none of

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 2>us were there. You know, when the scene was being shot.

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.919
<v Speaker 2>I remember as you walk up to it, it's sitting

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 2>on its perch and they had to build the perch

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>like it's a fake. They like took branches off of

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 2>another tree because they had to bring branches down low

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 2>enough for you to be able to reach it, and

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>then you know, put all the dead branches around it

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 2>to just make it look like whatever it looked like.

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 2>And you walk up to it and then I'm like, well,

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 2>when does it jump into her hand? Well, when I'm waiting,

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 2>because I remember you holding it, but I realized that

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 2>was your work session. So the whole time I'm watching

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 2>the scene, I'm like, but when does it sit on

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.839
<v Speaker 2>her arm? I remember it on her arm, And of

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.359
<v Speaker 2>course it couldn't sit your arm without a glove because

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 2>it would have punctured your bones.

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, that's That's like why

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 3>when you watch the documentary The Staircase and somebody brings

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 3>up the owl theory, you realize, when you're in the

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 3>presence of an owl, how completely possible that is. But

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 3>that's a totally different show. So it's fine.

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I loved that documentary, though, we need to talk about that.

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, when you're hanging out with the toddler and

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 4>they get that crazy look in their eye where you're like,

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm either about to get hugged or punched in the face,

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know what it's going to be. That

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 4>was what the owl's eyes were like the entire time,

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:35.839
<v Speaker 4>except like you said, it's made of knives. It was terrifying. Yeah. Yeah,

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to forget to say. I love that

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 4>we got more Chase in this episode, yause. I love

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 4>sweet Stephen Coletti, and I had no recollection of there

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 4>being a Chase Mia Alex love trying.

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Me, I know, and that Alex and Josh friendship developing

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.399
<v Speaker 3>the storyline for Paul and Josh. I didn't remember Paul

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 3>being in Utah with us. That's how checked out I was.

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.439
<v Speaker 2>What I loved so much was the sort of love

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 2>hate sibling relationship between them developing, having these really sweet

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>conversations that then shift into their I can't tell you

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 2>how much I hate you kind of energy. Yes, the

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>joke of both Josh and Alex trying to get into

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Chase's room in.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 3>It being locked, I was so good good.

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 2>That actually might be my honorable mention for the whole episode.

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:32.760
<v Speaker 2>That silly little joke was top tier, great, so great,

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Well done to you, Stephen Coletti. You're so handsome that

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 2>everyone wants to kiss you.

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.840
<v Speaker 4>And I mean the funniest scene of all the perfect

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 4>button on this episode. Let's talk about Clay and Quinn

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 4>and Katie. Oh my god, can I tell you Here's

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.240
<v Speaker 4>I knew that was coming, and as I watched the scene,

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 4>my first thing I thought was when it ended, was

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 4>why did she go? Why did she leave out of

0:56:56.080 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 4>the balcony. Here's the deal. I'm not lodged checking the scene.

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I just meant it was like my brain went, you've

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.359
<v Speaker 4>potentially killed them, why not just walk out the front

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 4>door there, save yourself a climb, you know, Yeah, like

0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 4>the job's done, No one's gonna stop you there.

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you did it. Maybe she didn't want to touch doorknobs.

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, I'm not logic checking it because there

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 4>are valid reasons why. It was just fun. My first

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 4>thought was strange she chose to go back out the balcony.

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a moment with that. Also

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 3>strange that there was no ricochet. The bullet didn't hit

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.520
<v Speaker 3>the door, it wasn't on the wall, there was like nothing.

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 3>It just from that close range she shot Clay and

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the bullet just stopped right, like you just made out

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 3>of steal Man.

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, to be fair, have you seen Clay's abs? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>let me, no, you haven't because they're not really there. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that was a good it was. It was a great

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<v Speaker 4>twist in the sense that you had the entire episode

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<v Speaker 4>all about happy endings, this theme of yeah, people are

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<v Speaker 4>getting the movie, they get the happy ending, Brilliant's getting it,

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<v Speaker 4>Nale's getting it, and then it's just it seems that

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<v Speaker 4>Clean and Quinn are having it and then bang bang Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's quite a shock, But I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>the point, right is do you think that maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>idea in the writer's room was, you know, we're giving

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<v Speaker 2>everyone their dream, you know, Brooke says it to Julian

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<v Speaker 2>when they get home, feels like everyone lives happily ever after,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says they do. Maybe if everyone actually ended

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<v Speaker 2>the season happy, even though we'd been picked up for

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<v Speaker 2>season seven and eight, which had never happened before a

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<v Speaker 2>two season pickup, maybe they were like, maybe everyone's going

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<v Speaker 2>to think this as a series finale, we really got

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<v Speaker 2>to give them something.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what my friend who was staying with me said

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<v Speaker 3>when we were watching it. She's like this one felt

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<v Speaker 3>like such a serious finale. I remember watching it thinking, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 3>is the show over? Like everybody's getting their stories all

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<v Speaker 3>wrapped up, and then we got that twist ending.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is a perfect segue to our listener question. Heather asks,

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<v Speaker 4>is it true that the ending of this episode was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be everyone in the Snow and it was

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<v Speaker 4>later changed? If that's true, why did they change the ending.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the answer to that question. It sounds right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I I was because as I thought about that,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought die, I knew I was coming back, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm pretty sure Sean Tellen I knew we were

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<v Speaker 4>coming back. I think it was conveyed to us, because

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<v Speaker 4>otherwise that would be a very ambiguous way to end

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<v Speaker 4>the season.

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<v Speaker 3>But was the show itself? Were we not sure?

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<v Speaker 4>No? We were.

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<v Speaker 2>We were because remember we got picked up at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of season six. They picked us up for seven

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<v Speaker 2>and eight together. Wow, so and that had never happened

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<v Speaker 2>to us before, and so we knew we were going

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<v Speaker 2>to have two years of work. So I I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, Heather, I have no idea, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that that is true, only because we needed a cliffhanger.

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<v Speaker 2>The ending in the snow, you know, it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>hell will climb it together, that great moment where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like our Hayley is back. It would have felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a great end to an episode, but it wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been a cliffhanger, and we needed one. So I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we get this last act.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it has to have been.

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<v Speaker 4>Honorable mentions. What do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we know, Sophie, Yeah, Chase's door being locked.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I tried, so did I that's mine. I mean, also,

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<v Speaker 2>joy you surviving the owl, but that feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>yours to take if you want it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it's okay, Like that was fun. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think my honorable mention will probably be just the Quinn

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<v Speaker 3>and Haley going for a walk, like finally, because because

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<v Speaker 3>Quinn was so fine, like Haley's their mom, Haley, Quinn

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor's mom dies and Haley's the only one that seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be really having a problem with it. Quinn's like

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<v Speaker 3>moving on with life. Everything's fine, she's happy, she's got

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<v Speaker 3>her gallery. She's like it's all like she's not acknowledging

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<v Speaker 3>it at all. And there was something about being in

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<v Speaker 3>the snow and taking that walk. It was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So Quinn is like processing it in her

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<v Speaker 3>own way, and they're taking their time together, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it felt like something we I needed anyway, as a viewer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would.

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<v Speaker 4>Say my lighthearted honorable mention is finding out that Alex

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<v Speaker 4>Duprey's real name is Alice Whitehead. And my more meaningful

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<v Speaker 4>honorable mention would be your performance. Joy. I thought you

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<v Speaker 4>did a really good job portraying Haley trying to come

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<v Speaker 4>out from under the wet blanket of her depression.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I believed it as someone who's been there, I bought it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was That's how I was feeling. I was coming

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<v Speaker 3>out of my own haze. So in a way, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it all just worked together. It's bizarre how that all,

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<v Speaker 3>how that all happened coincided, But thank you. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I really enjoyed that episode. Lots of Israel memories.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so special.

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<v Speaker 4>We finished our first full season together.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations, Rob, thank you for joining us for a whole season.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, let me just say this has been a blast.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to keep coming back? Or are you done,

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<v Speaker 3>you all wrapped up?

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<v Speaker 4>Are we going to pretend that I died like the

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<v Speaker 4>end of season seven, and we'll see if I appear

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<v Speaker 4>for episode eight oh one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's calling his agent. He's like, I might be on

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<v Speaker 2>the bubble. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listen, if we weren't recording eight oh one in

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<v Speaker 4>four minutes from now, I would be very worried I

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<v Speaker 4>might cast. It'd be great. The listener tunes in ato

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<v Speaker 4>to one. It's Stephen COLETTI. I actually am recast. He

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<v Speaker 4>didn't test great Rob, he didn't test Grady burned bright,

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<v Speaker 4>but he didn't last long.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, next episode, Season eight, episode owed one, Sleep at

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<v Speaker 3>Heaven's Gate. Can't wait to see you guys back. Thank

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