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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about.

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Speaker 2: Them high school queens.

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Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens, my girl girl fashion, but your tough girl.

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Speaker 3: You could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drahma Queens Drama, Queens.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, Heason seven Episode twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're at the end of season seven if we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is a big episode. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to know what the fans take on it was,

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Speaker 4: because I, like you, had such happy nostalgia watching it,

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Speaker 4: how fond, like have such fond memories of us doing

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Speaker 2: It was Okay, I'm going to read he does the

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Speaker 2: have so much to say, friends and listeners. This is

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Speaker 2: almost everything I wish i'd said the last time I

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Speaker 2: saw you. It originally aired May seventeenth, twenty ten, and

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Speaker 2: the show got a lot happens. Haley tries to overcome

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Speaker 2: of Julian's film at Sun Dance. This this is nostalgia City.

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Speaker 2: You said exactly the right word, Rob, And like, oh man,

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Speaker 2: I do think it's so nice. I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 3: It's been hard to all.

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Speaker 2: that perhaps inspire anything you'd like to say, Rob?

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'd be remiss if I didn't say.

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Speaker 4: I've noticed there's a lot of chatter about how the

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Speaker 4: here's why it's so stupid.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, you guys aren't stupid, but the chatter is stupid.

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Speaker 4: Listen, and I wear it. It's noise, it's in the comments,

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Speaker 4: There are three of us. One of us as a

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Speaker 4: third one of us is me. So here's the deal. Gang.

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Speaker 4: We try our best to all be on at the

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Speaker 4: But lately life's been busy, life's been good, and it's

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Speaker 4: good news. Today, you got all three of us. There

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Speaker 4: is no drama. Squash it the drama for your mama,

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Speaker 4: There is none, And we're gonna have some fun.

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Speaker 2: But Rob, don't you understand that people think everything that

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Speaker 4: This is true. Also, you know, we are called the

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Speaker 4: Yeah to Hollywood's got a new power couple on the way.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Like, that's right, She's been holding everything up for

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Speaker 2: couple of years. There were just all these things I

438
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 2: could see in this episode that I didn't know at

439
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 2: the time that I know now that gave me that

440
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: same kind of feeling where I was like, wow, I

441
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: wish I wish we all hadn't been under so much

442
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: pressure to like just come to work and be professional,

443
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: because in a way, you wouldn't risk your professionalism to

444
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: say certain things or you know, gamble on something that

445
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: you might in your own life. And so I know

446
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: it's different, but I know you know what I'm talking about. Sorry,

447
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say this authentically but also not give

448
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: anyone's lives away. But you know, because there's strangers who

449
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 2: listened to this, but you weren't the only person like

450
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: you weren't the only person feeling that. I think we

451
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: all I think the nostalgia is partially so special because

452
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: we're like, man, if we all hadn't been keeping so

453
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: many things together in our personal lives, maybe maybe the

454
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: time could have been like as personal for us as

455
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: it looks for our characters. You know.

456
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: That's what's weird about is watching, like watching us experience

457
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: what we wanted personally to be experiencing with each other.

458
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: So it's like my body has this muscle memory of

459
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: these great experiences and watching you guys. And also there

460
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 3: were some great moments. I mean there were times like

461
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: when the cameras were rolling, it was like this, this

462
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: is fake, but it's also real, Like I love these people,

463
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: I would go to battle with these people. I love

464
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: this crew, yep. But when the cameras stop rolling, there's

465
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: all these weird personal complicated like situations and insecurities and

466
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: things that were just we were under a mountain of

467
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: six seven years of complex issues that how do you like.

468
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: They're not even just our complex issues, right, it's also

469
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: the complex issues of your life at home, like you're

470
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: referring me that you can't I guess I just want

471
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: to like clarify for people listening, because they're probably like,

472
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: what's the drama? Rom's earlier point, what was the drama?

473
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, that's not it. It's like the

474
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: characters are each other's best friends in every sense of

475
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: the word. And for us as co workers and friends

476
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: and people in this very bizarre, muddled professional personal space,

477
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: there were parts of our I'm doing a pie chart

478
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: for the people at home who can't see me. There

479
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: are like parts of the circle where there's best friendship,

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: and then there's parts of the circle where all these

481
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: people have things going on at home that they don't

482
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: feel comfortable to talk about yet, so we're keeping secrets.

483
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: And then there's other spaces where you know, for professionalism,

484
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: your your acquaintances, but also you really love this person

485
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: who's your acquaintance, but at this moment you don't share

486
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: a best friendship, and they're in a washing so they're

487
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: cyclical at all times and they're moving around all the time,

488
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: and then you're away together and you're like, I love

489
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: you so much. And I also haven't, like, I haven't

490
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: told my mom about this thing I'm struggling with yet,

491
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: so I'm certainly not going to talk about it at

492
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 2: work while I'm wearing a hot microphone. And it just

493
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: makes the weirdest dynamic because you're like, you're my people,

494
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: And also is any of this real? And I think

495
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: it's very real? But what if it isn't? And it

496
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: makes you feel so held and also like a complete

497
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: crazy person.

498
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: And it was easy on set when we were in Wilmington.

499
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: We had gotten into a routine with it, so we

500
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: sort of had figured out compartmentalized yet where the emotions

501
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: go at what time and how we so? But getting away,

502
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 3: we're now at this weird summer camp version of life

503
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: and work and suddenly it was like the rules don't apply,

504
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: but do they? But they don't, but they do, and

505
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: how are we? So I was feeling all that watching

506
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: this episode back, like there was so much more emotion

507
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: and for me in this episode than so many before.

508
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: There's also a thing where to your point in Wilmington,

509
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: when things were overwhelming in your life, you could go

510
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: home and like watch a movie alone in your apartment.

511
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: But we were on vacation for a week together, living together,

512
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: and I remember looking at you trying to be like,

513
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what to and being like, oh, you

514
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: came by yourself and you were like, uh huh. And

515
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: we just looked at each other and I was like,

516
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: are we going to talk about why he's not here?

517
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it. We don't have

518
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: to talk about it. You want to get something to eat, like,

519
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: and there's two hundred people around, so of course we're

520
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: not going to talk about it. And it's just such

521
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: a weird. Oh my god. I think about what we

522
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: survived in the fact that any of us are virtually normal,

523
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: and it's a miracle.

524
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: I do remember that, Oh my gosh. And then what's

525
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: crazy is I got sorry Rob. I feel like we're

526
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: just like a little couple of hens.

527
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 4: Just no, this is.

528
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: I love Rob because he's just nodding.

529
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: He's like, look at the girls processing their feelings. So sweet.

530
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: This is such good dad energy. He's so.

531
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, honeys, when did we shoot this? Do

532
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: we know when we shot this episode? It aired in May?

533
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 3: It would have been we think like February March.

534
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember because sometimes we would do the travel

535
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: episodes a little ahead, like we'd shoot the last episode

536
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: early so that we could like get the equipment back

537
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 2: and then be shooting an episode while they were, you know,

538
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: figuring all this stuff out. So I would say this

539
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 2: had to be like end of March.

540
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: Okay. So I got pregnant very soon after this. And

541
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: what's interesting is I mean I ended up leaving anyway, obviously,

542
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, I at the marriage in my bad situation,

543
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: but yeah that when we got to Utah, I remember

544
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: feeling so much more free because I got to a

545
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: point in my life where I was like, this is

546
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 3: something's wrong, something's not working, this is bad, this is like,

547
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: this is funky, and I was really fed up with

548
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that I was going through

549
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: that I wrote in my book. But when we got

550
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: to Utah, I was like, I felt so much more

551
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: like myself. And I remember that moment with you so

552
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: just feeling as though I wanted to tell you everything

553
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 3: and I wanted to dive in, but I was still

554
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: torn between the sense of loyalty and being classy, especially

555
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: when you're married and you don't want to betray your

556
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: spouse or your partner and it's like how much can

557
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: I say? And yeah, that was It's so interesting that

558
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: I had that feeling there. That was a very critical

559
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: moment in my life where I was like, am I

560
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: gonna talk my marriage? Am I gonna like just stay

561
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: here in Utah and open up a bed and breakfast

562
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: and keep working on this show and just disappear. And

563
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: I could have done it. It was like another cross

564
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: of my life, Like, yeah, every moment that I experienced

565
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: with you guys fed into that very real need that

566
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: I had to extract myself from a very bad situation.

567
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: And so that all that happened while we were shooting

568
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: this episode. And if I hadn't gone back, well I

569
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't have my daughter. So I'm glad that I did.

570
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: But it was it was a turning point in my life.

571
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Of course, I get it, and I mean I think

572
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: about it for you all the time, especially like your

573
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: Utah was my London, and like I didn't know any

574
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: of those people. I mean, I die for them. They're

575
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: like three of the loveliest humans I've ever worked with.

576
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: But I was like, I can't tell anyone what's going

577
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: on here, Like it's not appropriate to bring your stuff

578
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: to work, and and I think about it in a

579
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: weird way. You and all the conversations I mean that

580
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: we've had, like about your book and all the other

581
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: things over the last few months in particular, like made

582
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: me go oh, of course, because I had this bit

583
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: of guilt being like why couldn't I just say it,

584
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: Like why did I try to keep it up for

585
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: so long? And it's like cause you're trying to do

586
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: the right thing, and you're thinking maybe it's a phase.

587
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: And everyone says, you know, don't bring what's hard in

588
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: your house into your friendships. Save that for therapy, save

589
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: it for whatever. Never tell that's disrespectful to your spouse.

590
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I think when you finally say it,

591
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 2: you can think about it and think about it and

592
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: think about it and think about it and think about

593
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: it for however long and nobody gets to judge that.

594
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: But it's like the minute you say it out loud,

595
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: you can never unsay it, you can't take it back,

596
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: and like the snowball is on its way down the mountain.

597
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: Finally yeah, and again like oh it's the Mumford lyric.

598
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: Who No, I'm gonna cry, Like.

599
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: You are not alone in that in this Yeah, you know,

600
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: we think we are so often.

601
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: Look at these travel episodes. Just bring it up all

602
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: marsh I'm very out of us everyone.

603
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: We we were so much younger, and I don't I'll

604
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: speak for myself because I relate to what you're saying.

605
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: Enjoy I very much listen. In my entire career, if

606
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: there was one job I could I could do a

607
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 4: do over on, it would be One Tree Hill. Because

608
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 4: I now, as an adult in this place where I'm

609
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: in life, I see how much I enjoy the people

610
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: who were a part of it, who at the time

611
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: I just didn't really have the ability to connect with

612
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: the way I can now. So on this episode I

613
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: felt that especially so I was because I was watching

614
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: what an incredible experience it was and remembering, like you're saying, joy,

615
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: kind of feeling like I was watching my life through

616
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: like a window, you know, like wow, like I'm witnessing you.

617
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: Guys were just like having a ball. Everybody was in

618
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: it but me, but we were all feeling that.

619
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah I was.

620
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: I was.

621
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: I was watching it, but I wasn't experiencing it, And

622
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: a little bit like to kind of what we're saying though,

623
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: It's like because I didn't have the language back then,

624
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: you know, probably the same way so that you didn't

625
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: have the language to maybe ask the question or hold

626
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: the space whatever it is you would have liked to

627
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: have done ten years ago, you know. But like part

628
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: of the reason everyone I kept it at arm's length

629
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: is because I didn't know how to talk about what

630
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: was going on, you know, And I think that's kind

631
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: of something that to Wondergre or another we all were experiencing.

632
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: And not only were we so young, did we not

633
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: have the language. We weren't in the time that we're

634
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 2: in now twenty years ago, where everyone understands the language

635
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: of mental health. It wasn't a conversation and we were

636
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: kids and at work, like that day will be burned

637
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: in my memory forever, like looking at you and being

638
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: like I'm going to try to crack the door. But

639
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: then it was like, oh my god, I tried to

640
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: crack the door and she doesn't want to open it,

641
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: and like I should not be asking about this at work.

642
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: This is so inappropriate. And it always was the fear

643
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: of like we have to be really care fall at work.

644
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: And I think now we understand how to do two

645
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: things at once.

646
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: We're human beings like we Yes, we are not our work.

647
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: Our work is an extension of us, but we have

648
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: to be human first. But it's hard. That's hard. It's

649
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: just hard to navigate. And as you said, we were kids, yeah, and.

650
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: There was none of the quote unquote grown ups we're

651
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: modeling healthy behavior. Yeah. So in other words, there was

652
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: no one setting a precedent above us of going, hey

653
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: you good. Never it was, so it sort of was.

654
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: It made it easier to just not bring it up,

655
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: or I should say it made it harder to want

656
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: to bring things to the surface because no one above

657
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: us was doing it and showing us that it was

658
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: okay to do well.

659
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, if anyone ever did, they got

660
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: yelled at.

661
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

662
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an immense amount of pressure and it

663
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: so you learn you have to be professional. It's there

664
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: are millions of dollars riding on you showing up on time,

665
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: saying your lines, being emotionally ready for your scene, and

666
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: doing exactly what we're asking you to do. Millions of dollars,

667
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: hundreds of jobs and it's all on you right now.

668
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: So sorry, if you're having a hard time in your

669
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: personal life, go deal with it later.

670
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Exactly, so you get really good at like show up,

671
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: shut up, and then do the dance when they say action.

672
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: All right, if we're going to talk about doing the dance,

673
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: we got to talk about skills. Coat. Because as I

674
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: watched your episody.

675
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: God, thank god Rob brought us.

676
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 4: Back, I found myself going, I think I remember that

677
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: the bit was supposed to be that it was an

678
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: ugly coat, like it was obnoxious that. I gotta tell you,

679
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: forty three year old me watching this episode was like,

680
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 4: that coat is dope. Yeah, I would love to own

681
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: that coat.

682
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: By the way, same and I was like, who man

683
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: to get that coat in the wardrobe sale because I

684
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: hope Antoine, Like I really hope Antoine has it, and

685
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: if Lee secretly has it in the back of his closet,

686
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: I will die.

687
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: The shot of mouth dancing in the club with the

688
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: jacket on and the higher club all of the women

689
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: circled around to him. First of all, I loved it

690
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 4: because that's just such a funny image, but it also

691
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: made me laugh, like when does that ever happen in

692
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: real life? It doesn't. It only happens in movies, Like

693
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 4: unless you're throwing money out. No one in the club

694
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: is stopping. Everyone at the same time is stopping what

695
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: they're doing to just circle around you and cheer you on. Yeah,

696
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 4: only movies.

697
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 3: Never, That's just it was what it felt like to mouth.

698
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: That's how it felt to him. We were just experiencing

699
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: his experience. Wow, Okay, I don't know. That's how I

700
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: say it a sort.

701
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Of premonition for episode eight oh one. Yeah, we're in

702
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: the mental experience is so good.

703
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: That in that club sequence was one of my favorite

704
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: lines so far of the entire series, where Quinn decides

705
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: she's going to go dance. She's like, I'm gonna go dance,

706
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: and Clay's like, great, I'm gonna sit here and drink.

707
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: And then a few moments later, Skills walks her back

708
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 4: to Clay and he says she was sexy until she

709
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 4: started dancing, and then and then it puts her in

710
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: her seat.

711
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: She just sits her down.

712
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: It was I didn't remember it. It caught me so off guard,

713
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: but I thought it was so darn funny. Man, that's

714
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: so good.

715
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Your face cracked me up. Rob In when you were

716
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: in the club. It was the first shot in the club.

717
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: We were walking around and we're seeing Clay wander and

718
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: you walk past Alex grinding on chase and yeah.

719
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: It was so good. I wrote down that look for you.

720
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: And then I also loved that when Skills plops Quinn

721
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: down and she and Tell does such a good beat

722
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: of that like physical comedy, where like she gets plopped

723
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: down like a rag doll the way children do, and

724
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: you just you deadpan lost the beat. Oh that was

725
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: sod cackled with the whole storyline about her losing things

726
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: and then lose the beat.

727
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 4: It's good.

728
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: It was perfect. I had so much fun watching you

729
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: in all those club scenes. It was great.

730
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: I had fun shooting those. I remember shooting because again,

731
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: it was one of those things where, like you said,

732
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 4: we're in this bubble, we're all together randomly, like we're

733
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: not normally all together, and we're all in the same scene.

734
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 4: Everything was just new and different. But I just remember

735
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 4: it being a very fun day, like high energy day

736
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 4: on set because like most of us were all there,

737
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, dancing to music that wasn't one, which

738
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 4: is always so much fun.

739
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: Oh.

740
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: I feel like, here's my dream right now. There's got

741
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: to be a brand out there that needs a commercial

742
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: that they could just send us all back to Utah

743
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: and we could do like a mini minute long recreation

744
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: of moments from the Utah episodes. We could all just

745
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: have like a little bite in time, like a snack,

746
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: just a little snack to recapture, Mohali what we need

747
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: to really like walk away with in our bones, all

748
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: the good stuff that we always wanted.

749
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: I feel like that would be so great. I'm so

750
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: into it.

751
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: You know what, one moment I think people would not

752
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: be itching to relive, specifically one cast member. I'm thinking

753
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: the whole sequence of poor Chantelle, oh my god, getting

754
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: locked out and having to parade around in her bikini. Listen,

755
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: I've said it before, I'll say it again, Monster team player. Yeah,

756
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 4: when she committed, she did it, but it was the

757
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: the hat on a hat of a shooting it close

758
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: up of her butt as she walked to the table

759
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: and you cut back to the close up of her

760
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 4: butt as she leaves. Yeah.

761
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she was a true disappointing.

762
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: And that's one of those things too, right, is like,

763
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: I mean, look at our friend, like she's a supermodel.

764
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: At the time, everyone was like, damn girl, like go

765
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: off or whatever. We were saying in twenty ten and

766
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: obviously the journeys we've all been on together since then,

767
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: Like it made me really sad because I was like, oh,

768
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: I remember thinking like this is one of those moments

769
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: where like you hear all your friends' moms being like

770
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: if you got it fluted, like you're gonna want to

771
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: know what your body looked like at this age someday,

772
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: like all those things that like the older ladies say

773
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: to you when they've had three glasses of white wine.

774
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: And now like now watching it, it makes me feel

775
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: so uncomfortable and so sad for her, and I'm like, damn,

776
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: we just like.

777
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: We failed on that, well, just none of us.

778
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: We weren't communicating. Then we've communicated since, but I hate

779
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: it and it makes me so angry, and knowing who

780
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: directed this episode, it makes me so angry. And you know,

781
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: she had to go through this whole sequence first of all,

782
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: in the freezing snow in yeah, you know, essentially her

783
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: underwear and act like it wasn't a big deal, and

784
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, God bless her. She looked incredible. But then

785
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: like even the gag about like I lose things with

786
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: you guys, the club stuff is so funny, the key bit,

787
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: all of it. I get it, and like, you have

788
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: to basically do the exact same scene just you and

789
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: her in the bedroom, and I was like, man, she

790
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: went through it. She did a beautiful job. You're right,

791
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: ultimate team player, but she went through it.

792
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: It felt like it was just a reminder for all

793
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: the kids out there, all the girls watching the show, like, Hey,

794
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: just a reminder men are in charge and this is

795
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: all about what we want, like that you're sitting here

796
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: watching a fun episode of a teen soap opera to

797
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: enjoy all these characters and the romance stories. And I've

798
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: the snowball fight with the snowball fight, but just a

799
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: reminder the old guys are in charge. Yeah.

800
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: And you know what really solidified that for me and

801
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: made it feel so icky is when there's that sequence

802
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: where she walks into the cafe to get the key

803
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: from you Rob. There is a specific shot like from

804
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: the center of her body to a close up on

805
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: the reaction of a background actor who is absolutely old

806
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: enough to be her father, if not older. And I

807
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, we're going to prioritize letting some dude

808
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: we don't know, We're gonna he's gonna be directed to

809
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: stare at this woman's ass and we're going to film it.

810
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about being directed to be embarrassed and look

811
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: away like, oh gosh, I don't want to look at this.

812
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: Young like oho, geez.

813
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys who would do that

814
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: if I walked into a restaurant in a bikini, And

815
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: there are plenty of older guys that I know who

816
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: would look for you and then.

817
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: Look away, Yes, for you a coat.

818
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: That's right, you know what it is. It is the

819
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 4: It is the equivalent of this recent trend of like

820
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: the ice bucket being dropped in slow motion, Clay's beer

821
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 4: bottle being dropped in slow mo. It's this really hacky

822
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: way of hammering home a point that the audience is

823
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: smart enough. They don't they don't need They doesn't need

824
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: to be hammered home. Listen Sean tells in the shot,

825
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 4: everyone can see she's incredibly fit and beautiful. You don't

826
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 4: need to cut to a third party who we've never met,

827
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: going wah wah, wee wah, like we're all having the

828
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: same mixes roadrunners.

829
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: It's so it's so dumb, and also to your point,

830
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: why not say key beat beat coat and makes like

831
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, or even you could have done it. You

832
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: could have handed her the key and then said and

833
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: coat like you guys could have had a bit. It

834
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: didn't need to be.

835
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: How about an older gentleman walking up and sank.

836
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: Tyre, would you like my coat?

837
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 3: She takes it and then looks at Clay and skills

838
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: and mouth like, y'all a bunch of chumps, not why

839
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: you offered me a coat?

840
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, how about Clay? It's your boyfriend? Are you?

841
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? If Jenny showed up someplace in

842
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: twenty degree weather in her bikini, I mean, there's a

843
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: lot of questions that, there's a lot of follow questions,

844
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: But the first thing I would do would be like,

845
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: oh my god, take my coat. You cycle, Well, the first.

846
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: Thing you do is fall on the floor laughing. If

847
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: she looked like that in a hat and a bikini

848
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 3: and snow boots, and then you'd probably offer.

849
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, a coat would be in the equation at

850
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: some point.

851
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: Quests of course.

852
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: And you know what, you guys managed to make it

853
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: as icky as it feels to us now, you managed

854
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: to make it very hilarious. Yeah, And that's really hats

855
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: off to all of you as actors. It also kind

856
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: of made me, I guess them, like laugh a little

857
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: more when you know, Nathan parades Jamie out of the

858
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: movie and is like, you open on a sex scene.

859
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: Great job, and I'm like, okay, so yeah, I'm like,

860
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: there there's a line somewhere. It's apparently with the seven

861
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: year old, but like, okay, yeah, okay, we're at least

862
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna have a boundary, I suppose. But I

863
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: like the buddy comedy of that, Like the the Julian

864
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: and Jamie buddy comedy is very cute to me, and

865
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: then kind of perusing you know, the scene and then

866
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: going to the bar and Julian getting a beer and

867
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: the kid getting a root beer.

868
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: And like, I loved that.

869
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: It was all just so cute. And I like that

870
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: a seven year old like gives attitude to a grown

871
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: up and then the grown up gives it right back,

872
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: like they're really bugs.

873
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: How about when he says to Chase, he goes, who

874
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: are you? And Chase is like, it's me and then

875
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: he goes, whatever, you're no grubs. That was great. So

876
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: did you catch the Peanuts Snoopy little homage where he

877
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: is just laying on top of the snake. It glue,

878
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: just like Snoopy would do on top.

879
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, I didn't catch that. That's great. It

880
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: was really glue that they built on set for us.

881
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: Do you remember, by the way, I have notes about that.

882
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, the igloo was it was fake?

883
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: I remember it being fake, and then I thought, I thought,

884
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: oh my god. Of course we did the interiors on

885
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: set because they could only have one half of it

886
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: up because they needed to get the cameras on the

887
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: other side. And that's why when when Haley says to Brook,

888
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to check on me, and

889
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: my response to you is, I'm not. I just needed

890
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: some ice for my cocktail. I had to like scrape

891
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: the spray yeah whatever that was fake snow off the wall,

892
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: and then obviously not drink it because it's poisoned. And

893
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: I was like, god, I hate that we didn't get

894
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: a reset with like a prop person then being like, okay, pause,

895
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: swap and do the thing so it looked real like

896
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: I just did this, and then was like disgusting, and

897
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: then I never drank it for the rest of the scene.

898
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: I have a question for the two of you, because

899
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: there was a shot in the coda of the two

900
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 4: of you in that igloo. Yeah, and then Quinn enters yes,

901
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: and then the two of you start cracking up and

902
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: she kind of looks like embarrassed or something, and again

903
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: it's codas, there's no there's no dialogue. Do you remember

904
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: was that Was it scripted that way or did you

905
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: guys just did something funny happen?

906
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: I do not. I remember that the iglu paint was wet,

907
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: and they were like, don't get your hair on the

908
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: wall of the igloo, and so we had like we

909
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: were leaning against the wall, except we couldn't actually lean

910
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: on it. That was weird.

911
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: The one thing that I recall, and I wonder if

912
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: it is what made us laugh. I think it was

913
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: probably on the first pass, because you know, they have

914
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: Brook go check on Haley and then Quinn comes in,

915
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: and I remember the three of us being in there

916
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: for quite some time, which is why it was weird

917
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: to me that it cut from the two of us

918
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: to the three of us and then back to the

919
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: two of us. But I do remember the first time

920
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: that Chantel tried to get in because we sort of

921
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: had to sit close enough to the entrance that we

922
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: could establish that we were in the little igloo. And

923
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: she obviously has like, you know, legs the length of

924
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: Heidi Clumes, and when she tried to get in, because

925
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: she had so little room, one of her legs got

926
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: stuck and it was like, you know, she just like

927
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: tried to swing and it wasn't it wasn't enough of

928
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: like a turning radius for her, because she's again a supermodel,

929
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: and Joy and I are short, and we were like,

930
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: it was very funny. And I wonder if that's what

931
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: we were like, if that's.

932
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: The scene that had to have been it, right? I

933
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: think it was, Oh, that's so good. I wish we'd

934
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: actually shown that that's so funny.

935
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: But then what I don't understand is like, why didn't

936
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: we just keep rolling on the three of us for

937
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: the rest of it? Where did she go? Yeah?

938
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: Where did she go? Does she have to go back

939
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: out to hang out with?

940
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Well?

941
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 3: She had to know because you guys are back home. Yeah,

942
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

943
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

944
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 3: That might have just been a coda out of order

945
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: thing when they were editing, they just pushed it out

946
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: of order.

947
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably liked the way that Dolly was moving

948
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: and we're like, no, one I'll notice, and it's like

949
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: we all noticed, guys, all of us.

950
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 4: Did you notice? Okay, there's some bigger stuff I gotta

951
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: get to. But before we do it, when we're in

952
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 4: the premiere of In Julian's premiere, there's a shot shooting

953
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: towards the audience right where the camera kind of think

954
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: starts up at maybe the projection booth, and it pans

955
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: down to eventually find our characters. Before it gets there, though,

956
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: there's this odd thing where there's a girl smack in

957
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 4: the middle of frame who appears to be nodding off. No,

958
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: and I was, but here's the deal. She's not fully

959
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 4: asleep and she's not drowsy, she's like actively nodding off.

960
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: And I was so confused, Like did the director tell her?

961
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: Like is that was that supposed to be? Like not

962
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: everyone's liking the film or was it her choice to

963
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: stand out? But if you go back and watch it,

964
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 4: everyone is engrossed in the film except the one girl

965
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: square in the middle of the shot is like dozing

966
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: and nodding off.

967
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I missed it because my notes for

968
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: that was, Oh, I love that. When we panned down,

969
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: you see everyone in tears because the movie's so good. Yeah,

970
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: everybody's crying. And I so I missed her because I

971
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: was looking at all of you.

972
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: Well there you go, there's your eastreak to go back

973
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: and you visit right. Okay, So two things I did

974
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: not remember happening. Uh. First of all, Haley being pregnant.

975
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: I was that caught me completely off guard. I don't

976
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: know that storyline at all, and I didn't realize I

977
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: knew this would happen eventually, but that this was the episode.

978
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: Julian Purpole, he was so slick with it.

979
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: Right before he put the He's like, Jamie gave me

980
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: a gold star. You want to see it? And my

981
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: brain went to, oh, he's gonna maybe he's going to

982
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: give her a ring and so but I wasn't sure

983
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: because I just didn't remember. So it was really satisfying.

984
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: And your face, Sophia, Oh my gosh, Oh that was

985
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: such pure shock and joy. It was lovely.

986
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: It was so so sweet.

987
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: You two did such a great job with that scene.

988
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: It was so sweet, and I was really appreciative that

989
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: they didn't do the thing of leaning into Julian being

990
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: awkward and goofy, and they actually just let him have

991
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: a moment where he wasn't tripping over himself and he

992
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 4: was calm and collected, because I think it gave the

993
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: scene so much more weight and impact. Yeah, yeah, there

994
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: was no distraction. It was just about him being in

995
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: love with you and wanting to marry you.

996
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. And what I loved about it for them too,

997
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: is this whole sort of journey that they've been on together.

998
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: You know, Brooke really having to learn to let her

999
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: walls down and let someone in even though that's a risk.

1000
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: You know, Julian having to figure out how to not

1001
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: just be you know, the writer who's writing stories where

1002
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: someone saves the girl, but like a person who's a

1003
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: partner to someone, the sort of choice to do this,

1004
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean a in the most beautiful setting anywhere, come

1005
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: on in the aspen trees in Utah, but out in

1006
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: the quiet. There was something that really struck me watching

1007
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: it all these years later, about how these two people

1008
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: have these really busy lives and they've been through all

1009
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: these crazy things and they're in the quietest place and

1010
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: they just get to have this moment alone and it

1011
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: gave it this kind of groundedness for me that then

1012
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: when he started talking about how back there, back in

1013
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: the noise, back in the work, that everyone says is

1014
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: my identity. Everyone's saying, the next choice I make is

1015
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: going to define me, my career, my life. And the

1016
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: next thing I wanted to do is this to leave

1017
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: everything but you and make it about you and me.

1018
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: I was like, God, the happenstance of Utah being the

1019
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: place we went for this episode gave the proposal so

1020
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: much more weight for me as a viewer than I

1021
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: think it would have had had it happened anywhere we

1022
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: were used to seeing. You know, Yep, it's really special.

1023
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's the helpfulness with the reconnecting too. Sometimes

1024
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: it helps to just get outside of the regular zone

1025
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: of influence and regular patterns, and Hayley's reconnecting with herself

1026
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: with her family being able to be out in the quiet.

1027
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: The whole owl thing, guys, by the way, that owl

1028
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: was terrifying.

1029
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 2: I have pictures of all of us and that owl somewhere.

1030
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 4: Nop That owl was scary. I thought one of us

1031
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: was gonna leave with a permanent scar.

1032
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Nice.

1033
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: That owl was so terrifying, and I had to, you know,

1034
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: they bring it out, and because I was the one

1035
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: working with it, they were like, we're gonna have a moment.

1036
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: You're gonna have a work session with the owl. So

1037
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: they're going to put it on your arm, and like

1038
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: they had a glove and a whole thing. And I

1039
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: don't like. I don't scare easy. My fight or flight

1040
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: instinct is usually fight, and I'm a problem solver. I'm

1041
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 3: a great person to have in a crisis. Man, I'm

1042
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: telling you. They put that bird on my arm, and

1043
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: I was like, this thing is made out of knives

1044
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: and it is going to attack my face. And I'm

1045
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: just staring at it and it doesn't blink, and it's

1046
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: like soul liess and I'm like, oh my god, or

1047
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: maybe it's got so much soul and I'm terrified. I

1048
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: don't know what it was. But by the way, thank God.

1049
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: Watching you tell this story, I'm like, that owl knew

1050
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: you weren't being honest with yourself joy and was looking

1051
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: into your eyes and you hated it because it was

1052
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: staring at you. It was mirroring into my soul. The

1053
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: rest of us would be like, hey, you good, And

1054
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: then it would be like beat, beat, and you'd be

1055
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: like yeah, and we'd be like okay, see you later

1056
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: and run and the owl was like.

1057
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere, little girl. That's right. I'm not flinching.

1058
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: And in the owl's defense, the first thing you said

1059
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: to it when you walked up in the work session

1060
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: was hey, so, how many lukes does it take to

1061
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: get to the center of the tosipo? You know, so, like,

1062
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: obviously that's not what it wanted to hear. Everyone says

1063
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 4: that to it.

1064
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, stop deflecting. You're in pain, You're dealing

1065
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: with things in your life and you need to face

1066
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: it right now. I'm gonna stare at you with my

1067
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: knife face and my knife hands. I love that you

1068
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: called it.

1069
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: A knife face. That beak. Those talents, the talons are scary.

1070
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1071
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: What was interesting to me was watching because we talked

1072
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: about how this was coming, and obviously we'd all had

1073
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: this wild day watching you work with this bird and

1074
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: doing the things, even though it looked like none of

1075
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: us were there. You know, when the scene was being shot.

1076
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 2: I remember as you walk up to it, it's sitting

1077
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: on its perch and they had to build the perch

1078
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: like it's a fake. They like took branches off of

1079
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: another tree because they had to bring branches down low

1080
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: enough for you to be able to reach it, and

1081
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: then you know, put all the dead branches around it

1082
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: to just make it look like whatever it looked like.

1083
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: And you walk up to it and then I'm like, well,

1084
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: when does it jump into her hand? Well, when I'm waiting,

1085
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: because I remember you holding it, but I realized that

1086
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: was your work session. So the whole time I'm watching

1087
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: the scene, I'm like, but when does it sit on

1088
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: her arm? I remember it on her arm, And of

1089
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: course it couldn't sit your arm without a glove because

1090
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: it would have punctured your bones.

1091
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, that's That's like why

1092
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: when you watch the documentary The Staircase and somebody brings

1093
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: up the owl theory, you realize, when you're in the

1094
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: presence of an owl, how completely possible that is. But

1095
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: that's a totally different show. So it's fine.

1096
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: I loved that documentary, though, we need to talk about that.

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00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: You know, when you're hanging out with the toddler and

1098
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: they get that crazy look in their eye where you're like,

1099
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: I'm either about to get hugged or punched in the face,

1100
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 4: and I don't know what it's going to be. That

1101
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: was what the owl's eyes were like the entire time,

1102
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 4: except like you said, it's made of knives. It was terrifying. Yeah. Yeah,

1103
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: I don't want to forget to say. I love that

1104
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: we got more Chase in this episode, yause. I love

1105
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 4: sweet Stephen Coletti, and I had no recollection of there

1106
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: being a Chase Mia Alex love trying.

1107
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: Me, I know, and that Alex and Josh friendship developing

1108
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 3: the storyline for Paul and Josh. I didn't remember Paul

1109
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: being in Utah with us. That's how checked out I was.

1110
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 2: What I loved so much was the sort of love

1111
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: hate sibling relationship between them developing, having these really sweet

1112
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: conversations that then shift into their I can't tell you

1113
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: how much I hate you kind of energy. Yes, the

1114
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: joke of both Josh and Alex trying to get into

1115
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: Chase's room in.

1116
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: It being locked, I was so good good.

1117
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: That actually might be my honorable mention for the whole episode.

1118
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: That silly little joke was top tier, great, so great,

1119
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: Well done to you, Stephen Coletti. You're so handsome that

1120
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: everyone wants to kiss you.

1121
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 4: And I mean the funniest scene of all the perfect

1122
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: button on this episode. Let's talk about Clay and Quinn

1123
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: and Katie. Oh my god, can I tell you Here's

1124
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 4: I knew that was coming, and as I watched the scene,

1125
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: my first thing I thought was when it ended, was

1126
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: why did she go? Why did she leave out of

1127
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 4: the balcony. Here's the deal. I'm not lodged checking the scene.

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: I just meant it was like my brain went, you've

1129
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 4: potentially killed them, why not just walk out the front

1130
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: door there, save yourself a climb, you know, Yeah, like

1131
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: the job's done, No one's gonna stop you there.

1132
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it. Maybe she didn't want to touch doorknobs.

1133
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm not logic checking it because there

1134
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: are valid reasons why. It was just fun. My first

1135
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: thought was strange she chose to go back out the balcony.

1136
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a moment with that. Also

1137
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: strange that there was no ricochet. The bullet didn't hit

1138
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: the door, it wasn't on the wall, there was like nothing.

1139
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 3: It just from that close range she shot Clay and

1140
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: the bullet just stopped right, like you just made out

1141
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: of steal Man.

1142
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, have you seen Clay's abs? I mean,

1143
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 4: let me, no, you haven't because they're not really there. Yeah, yeah,

1144
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: that was a good it was. It was a great

1145
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: twist in the sense that you had the entire episode

1146
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: all about happy endings, this theme of yeah, people are

1147
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: getting the movie, they get the happy ending, Brilliant's getting it,

1148
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: Nale's getting it, and then it's just it seems that

1149
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 4: Clean and Quinn are having it and then bang bang Yeah.

1150
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's quite a shock, But I guess that's

1151
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: the point, right is do you think that maybe the

1152
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: idea in the writer's room was, you know, we're giving

1153
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: everyone their dream, you know, Brooke says it to Julian

1154
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: when they get home, feels like everyone lives happily ever after,

1155
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: and he says they do. Maybe if everyone actually ended

1156
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: the season happy, even though we'd been picked up for

1157
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: season seven and eight, which had never happened before a

1158
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: two season pickup, maybe they were like, maybe everyone's going

1159
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: to think this as a series finale, we really got

1160
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: to give them something.

1161
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: That's what my friend who was staying with me said

1162
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: when we were watching it. She's like this one felt

1163
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: like such a serious finale. I remember watching it thinking, oh, no,

1164
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: is the show over? Like everybody's getting their stories all

1165
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: wrapped up, and then we got that twist ending.

1166
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: Which is a perfect segue to our listener question. Heather asks,

1167
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 4: is it true that the ending of this episode was

1168
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: supposed to be everyone in the Snow and it was

1169
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 4: later changed? If that's true, why did they change the ending.

1170
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that question. It sounds right,

1171
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: and I I was because as I thought about that,

1172
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 4: I thought die, I knew I was coming back, right,

1173
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure Sean Tellen I knew we were

1174
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: coming back. I think it was conveyed to us, because

1175
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: otherwise that would be a very ambiguous way to end

1176
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 4: the season.

1177
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: But was the show itself? Were we not sure?

1178
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: No? We were.

1179
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: We were because remember we got picked up at the

1180
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: end of season six. They picked us up for seven

1181
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: and eight together. Wow, so and that had never happened

1182
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: to us before, and so we knew we were going

1183
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: to have two years of work. So I I gotta

1184
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: be honest, Heather, I have no idea, but I don't

1185
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: believe that that is true, only because we needed a cliffhanger.

1186
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: The ending in the snow, you know, it's just a

1187
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: hell will climb it together, that great moment where you know,

1188
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: like our Hayley is back. It would have felt like

1189
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: a great end to an episode, but it wouldn't have

1190
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: been a cliffhanger, and we needed one. So I guess

1191
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: that's why we get this last act.

1192
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to have been.

1193
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 4: Honorable mentions. What do you got?

1194
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we know, Sophie, Yeah, Chase's door being locked.

1195
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: I know, I tried, so did I that's mine. I mean, also,

1196
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: joy you surviving the owl, but that feels like it's

1197
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: yours to take if you want it.

1198
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: I know, it's okay, Like that was fun. But I

1199
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: think my honorable mention will probably be just the Quinn

1200
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: and Haley going for a walk, like finally, because because

1201
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 3: Quinn was so fine, like Haley's their mom, Haley, Quinn

1202
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: Taylor's mom dies and Haley's the only one that seems

1203
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: to be really having a problem with it. Quinn's like

1204
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: moving on with life. Everything's fine, she's happy, she's got

1205
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: her gallery. She's like it's all like she's not acknowledging

1206
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: it at all. And there was something about being in

1207
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: the snow and taking that walk. It was like, okay,

1208
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: all right, So Quinn is like processing it in her

1209
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: own way, and they're taking their time together, and so

1210
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: it felt like something we I needed anyway, as a viewer, Yeah,

1211
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: I would.

1212
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 4: Say my lighthearted honorable mention is finding out that Alex

1213
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: Duprey's real name is Alice Whitehead. And my more meaningful

1214
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 4: honorable mention would be your performance. Joy. I thought you

1215
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 4: did a really good job portraying Haley trying to come

1216
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 4: out from under the wet blanket of her depression.

1217
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1218
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: I believed it as someone who's been there, I bought it.

1219
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: I was That's how I was feeling. I was coming

1220
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: out of my own haze. So in a way, I

1221
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: think it all just worked together. It's bizarre how that all,

1222
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: how that all happened coincided, But thank you. I appreciate that.

1223
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that episode. Lots of Israel memories.

1224
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: It was so special.

1225
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: We finished our first full season together.

1226
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Rob, thank you for joining us for a whole season.

1227
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 4: Hey, let me just say this has been a blast.

1228
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me on.

1229
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: You want to keep coming back? Or are you done,

1230
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: you all wrapped up?

1231
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: Are we going to pretend that I died like the

1232
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 4: end of season seven, and we'll see if I appear

1233
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: for episode eight oh one.

1234
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: He's calling his agent. He's like, I might be on

1235
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: the bubble. I don't know.

1236
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, if we weren't recording eight oh one in

1237
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 4: four minutes from now, I would be very worried I

1238
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 4: might cast. It'd be great. The listener tunes in ato

1239
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 4: to one. It's Stephen COLETTI. I actually am recast. He

1240
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: didn't test great Rob, he didn't test Grady burned bright,

1241
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 4: but he didn't last long.

1242
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: Okay, next episode, Season eight, episode owed one, Sleep at

1243
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: Heaven's Gate. Can't wait to see you guys back. Thank

1244
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: you see you in four Bye. Hey, thanks for listening.

1245
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,640
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1246
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,439
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1247
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,480
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1248
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,800
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1249
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,400
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1250
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1251
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1254
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