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We'll have more 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: NBA on the way, more drama with Giannis, Chris Paul. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: But I don't know that anybody had a worse day 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: than Mike Tomlin. I mean I don't know, man, I 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: mean there's bad days. Chris Paul certainly bad day. Well, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: they didn't lose again, No, nobody actually asked him any 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: questions about what Aaron Rodgers had to say. Yeah, but 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: when you had two of. 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: The greatest players to ever put on Steeler uniforms say 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: that you're not a great coach. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: And you should be fired. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Yet, it's not a great day for you, man, Not 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: that we not that we thought Ben Roethlisberger, James Harrison 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: and And and Mike Tomlin were best budds. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: No going out and hanging out. 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: But you know when you hear that that that's still 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: a pretty bad day for you. 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Well but I mean Tomlin had been reading it in 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Ed Buschett's columns for years, so I mean this is 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: nothing new. 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: H H. 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh. 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: The relationship between Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin was never 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: a warm and fuzzy one, but it worked. 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: They were able to win. It's a lot of winning. 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: They were able to do it, win the Super Bowl. 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a really you got to 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: hand it to both those guys and all the guys 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: that played to get to and win super Bowls when 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: he the coach and the quarterback were not best friends. 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: But we can still find a way to get through it. 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: But now that Mike Tomlin is circling the drain, like 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: I feel like Mike Tomlin is is uh is walking 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: along and and like you hear that noises buzzards you 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: know ahead like going, I got a dead man walking 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: right here. This is he's getting He's getting fired. Man. 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: The buzzards, the buzzard just circling and will Arnett is 47 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: singing from ice age food, glorious food. There has been 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: no more momentum towards Mike Tomlin being fired or reached 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 3: some sort of agreement to let good to be let 50 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: go from the Steelers than it is right now. Look, 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 3: we talked about this in the preseason, you know, we say, 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: ahead of the curve, you understand that this was going 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: to be the last year for Tomlin, that the twenty 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: twenty four season was barely enough with the strategy they 55 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: had and Tomlin's belief and I know what we need 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: to do with the quarterbacks, and boy did it end 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: badly with Russell Wilson. So now this year, even though 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: he got his contract extended, Look, Steels do things the 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: right way. We're not going to have a guy in 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: a lame duck kind of situation. 61 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: We're going to do this. It's not not a good 62 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: way to do business. 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: But you knew that this was going to be it. 64 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: And now the Steelers are absolutely floundering. They decide we're 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: going to go the cheap route for a quarterback again 66 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers, and it's not working. And now you 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: know that, Okay, what's gonna happen at the end of 68 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: the year. Ben Roethlisberger on the Footballing podcast Former Steelers legend, 69 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: Who is again? We say that, I say this about 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 3: Roethlisberger all the time. A network's going to hire him 71 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: and they're going to have the next great antalyst. K 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: I said the two best guys, right were Cam Newton 73 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: and Ben Roethlisberger. And who's making a lot of headlines 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: now that he's been brought on as a full time analyst, 75 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: Cam Newton? 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: Right, I told you these two guys. So here's Roethlisberger 77 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: on his football and podcast, not just trolling Mike Tomlin, 78 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: but he actually has an idea for another job. Yeah, 79 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: if he would leave the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's being talked. 80 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 5: About around here a lot. Maybe it's time, Maybe it's 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: a cleanhouse time. Maybe it is. Maybe it's time. And 82 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: I like coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect 83 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him too. Maybe 84 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: a fresh start for him is what's best, whether that's 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: in the pros, whether. 86 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: Maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what 87 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: he was doing Penn's eight. He'll probably go win national championships. 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: Legit, because he wouldn't have a losing season. 89 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: Now he wouldn't. 90 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the synapses were firing really fast, and heytend 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: out that sounds like a great That sounds like Roethlisberger 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: trying to find a way to say, listen, the Pittsburgh 93 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: Steelers need new leadership, and they do. 94 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: They just need a new voice at this point, right, 95 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: you need a new voice. And you think, okay, well, 96 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: here's Roethlisberger saying a nice thing about it. No, no, 97 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 3: he's saying, you need to go back to knowing full well, 98 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: going back to college after you're coaching, you're Bill Belichick 99 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: now with that without the girlfriend like this is it's 100 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: it's embarrassing for an NFL head coach to say, Okay, 101 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: now I have nothing else to do but go back 102 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: to college. And now I'm gonna I've been to the 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: head coach and I have won super Bowls, but now 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: the best place for me is to go back to college. 105 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: This is Roethlisberger completely stomping on Mike Tomlin because he 106 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: can and say, hey, listen, you know everybody sees it. 107 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: Now here's Mike Tomlin, who maybe go back win national championships. 108 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: No, no, no, he is still trolling the crap out of 109 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Tomlin with that. Yeah, maybe go to college take over 110 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: for James Franklin. 111 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 112 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's something we've talked about in terms of 113 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: the Penn State job and nobody what's that word wants 114 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: it or phraseology, I guess. But for for Mike Tomlin, look, 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: he's still better than how many coaches, right, We'll still 116 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: put him up on the pantheon of great motivators coaches 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: because it's all blends back together, right, the x's and 118 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: o's versus getting guys to rise up in a seventeen 119 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: game season, it still gets it done. So you're under 120 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: contract through twenty twenty seven. So I don't think he's 121 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: walking away from it. I think they either come to 122 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: a nice, big buyout or they trade him, right, because 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: there's plenty of places Giants are the one that we've 124 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: been talking about quite a bit of that's like personality fit. Yeah, right, 125 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: it's not going to be. It's not going to be 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: You're out the day after all of a sudden he 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: gets called into an office. No on, It's also the Steelers, right, 128 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about the Chris Paul situation before. 129 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: It's like you gotta have a fall guy, right, and 130 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: when you're the star, you have a much larger voice. 131 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: If you're a role player, you're not for the Steelers. 132 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: It's just always the curiosity to me, it's like do 133 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the gms really do anything? Or do they do what 134 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: he tells them to? 135 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 6: Right? 136 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: So like that dynamic is curious to me. What does 137 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Omar Khan? What's his culpability in how this roster is constructed? 138 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: Because we went through some of the salaries yesterday, find 139 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: the full conversation of the podcast to you know, compartmentalize 140 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: and shrink it down for bite sized consumption. Here, you know, 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: your top four guys are defenders and as a collective 142 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: they make about seventy million dollars, two of whom are 143 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: well north of thirty. In terms of you know where 144 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: they're at and their football timelines. You're seeing it week 145 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: to week. You have no idea what you're getting from 146 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: that side of the ball, what kind of pass rush 147 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: you're getting, what kind of opportunity. I mean, look at 148 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: the Bears just ran all over them, just just like 149 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: there was no heart at all when they when they 150 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: played them. But we look at just the opportunity for 151 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers, and for Tomlin to recognize all the wind 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: streak is great, like you can't just diminish it because 153 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: it's it's unlike anything we've seen. But at some point 154 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: you got to have the postseason success and and that's 155 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: long been bandied about and long just debated about where 156 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Tomlin is. But for the veterans, the legends of the 157 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: organization to be like, yeah, here's your here's your kind 158 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: of you know, they should go. And for Penn State, 159 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a terrible idea on the grand 160 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: scale because that is what he's always cited as, right, 161 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: the recruiter, the motivator. Wait, he's a great recruit. He's 162 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: been coaching in the NFL for twenty years. You're tom 163 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: and he's a great recruiter. We each got to come. 164 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: It's not like he's Harbaugh where he just came from 165 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: college football. 166 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great but it came over twenty years. 167 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: But I think part of that is just the personality, 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily the bring you into the building, but keep 169 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you engaged, because that's the other part of recruiting now, right, 170 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: we talk about in college all the time with the 171 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: amount of ability and flow where You only have these 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: guys basically for a year before they want to leave. 173 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: Can you You got them for four months on campus 174 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: and you have to keep them happy the entire time, 175 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: their families, their hangers on, their managers and everybody else. 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: Can you imagine him saving money with Penn State by 177 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: going after like a two star quarterback. Hey, listen, we 178 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: don't want to. 179 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: You saw what I did in the pros with Fields 180 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 1: and Wilson and Rogers five star guys. 181 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: At you're a two star guy. We're not gonna really 182 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: give you a lot of nil money. 183 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're just gonna make it work with you, Okay. 184 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: But that's where it always gets. We get into this 185 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: weird spot because I mean, you're a Jets guy, like 186 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: right now, on on top of the world of what 187 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: the Bears are doing. But I've watched it for years. 188 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: It's been a disaster right quarterback after quarterback after quarterback 189 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: and no winning to go with it with the Steelers 190 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: since Roethlisberger left, no matter how bad, and you can 191 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: run through them, it's a laundry list, not as long 192 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: as the jerseys that go around Cleveland that look like capes. 193 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: At this point, forty two quarterbacks since nineteen nine United 194 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: started a game. You're not quite to that level, but 195 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: they still end up on the plus side of five 196 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: hundred every year. It's like, that's just wrong. Like, at 197 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: no point has it truly bitten him in the ass, 198 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: or the GM or just the Rudy family as a whole. 199 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: It's like, Eh, we're still cruising alone right in the 200 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: meady part of the curve all the time. Now, before 201 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: we tell you how this is gonna end, you got 202 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: to hear from James Harrison, who look one of the 203 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: great linebackers in Pittsburgh Steeler history, enjoyed the best years 204 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: of his career when he played for Mike Tomlin. Yeah, 205 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: he's also not shedding tears for the Steelers head coach. 206 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: You tell me where there's a good coach on this staff, 207 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: because right now I don't see anybody planning at their potential. 208 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: Mike Dommlin is in control of hiring. 209 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Coaches, and he may not be the one coaching the position, 210 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 4: but he is in position to hire the coaches to 211 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 4: get the potential. 212 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 6: Of our players. 213 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: And right now he has not put coaches in the 214 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: position that can get the potential out of what it 215 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: is that we have. Something has to be done, Bro. 216 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: And I know the Stillers historically don't move on from coaches, 217 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: but I think it's time the history be made, because 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: right now the only history room making is being the 219 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: worst Pittsburgh still a team statistically almost in the history 220 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: of the organization. 221 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: So there's James Harten, very very emotional, James Harrison there. 222 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: Great coaches get players to play to their potential. That's 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: not happening now. Look, this is gonna be. 224 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Mike tomlins last year in Pittsburgh, and it's not going 225 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: to end with a big firing the day after. It 226 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: will end very. 227 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: As amicably as possible, where both sides agree it's time 228 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: for him to move on, or they could potentially. I 229 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: don't see the trade happen because then it gets really 230 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: messy in that kind of situation where it's gonna be, Hey, 231 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: we do things the right way, we're gonna part you 232 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: know whatever. They figure out the money that you know, 233 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: and he's gonna go and he will go someplace because 234 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: you can't unring this bell that's been out there for 235 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: so long that Tomlin has passed his expiration date. When 236 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: you have fans channing fire Tomlin at the games, and 237 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: when you have fans booing when they play Renegade in 238 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter to psych up the defense and fans 239 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: are booing it, you know, Okay, we need change with 240 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: the Steelers. 241 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: We can't. We can't go forward with this again. 242 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: We can't. We're just it's the everybody is upset. We're 243 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: in a bad place, and quite honestly, you need a 244 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: new voice. It can get you to the modern era 245 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: of football because Tomlin is still he's trying to win 246 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: like it's nineteen eighty five with with a necessary evil 247 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: at quarterback and we're not gonna go crazy for talent 248 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 3: wise guys. But because I had my fill with Roethlisberger 249 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 3: and Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell and all those guys. 250 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he's tried to go cheap on quarterbacks and 251 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: he's tried to not bring in guys that that could 252 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: have a diva type attitude that would rest try to 253 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: fight him for control of the team. But this is 254 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: kind of how you win in the NFL with talented 255 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: quarterback and a dynamic offense, right, Like what they do 256 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: in the offseason went out and they bulked up defensively 257 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: and they you know they extended, guys, we're gonna run 258 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: the football, run the footbron you don't win that way. 259 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: Hey, they just brought in Adam Deelin and they let 260 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: Darius Slay go and bring in guys that were good 261 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: five years ago. Yeah. But but that that's the whole 262 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: thing is is that you need you need to get 263 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: into what the modern era twenty twenty five is for 264 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: football in the NFL. And and the Steelers are not it, man, 265 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: they are not. They are. But it comes back to 266 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: the discussion of winning versus winning again. You know, you 267 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: and I look at that and go, man, I wish 268 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: I had that every year. I wish I was complaining 269 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: that my team was, even if it's every year is 270 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: a game about five hundred, I'd like to be in 271 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: that stratosphere to where I'm playing meaning like this is 272 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: the first time the Bears are playing meaningful football in 273 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: December and not meaningful for somebody else. Okay, So for Pittsburgh, 274 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you know you want a bit more for James Harrison. 275 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: You're in his voice. Look, as soon as they hired 276 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, what did I tell you? Like, this offense 277 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: is no longer any hope they had was dead right, 278 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: because remember he had Bijohn Robinson in a box for 279 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: a years ago. We'll get, We'll get. He's gonna get 280 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: his touches. 281 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 6: He didn't. 282 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: You never saw't. My He and Engineer Gives are the 283 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: two best running backs in the game. This guy kept 284 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: him in a box for a full year. But but 285 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: again for the GMS, they they got to answer some 286 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: questions in this process too, right of all, right, why 287 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: does he have complete control over everything in terms of 288 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. But you've been able to win by 289 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: being on the cheap and spending your money elsewhere. The 290 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: league is turned. Now you have to decide, you know, 291 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: small W versus capitol W. You want to be that 292 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: great in the playoffs again. 293 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be. It's too much momentum going that way. 294 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: And everybody he knows changes needed that. 295 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: And those fans were all mad that Sticks announced that 296 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: tour with Chicago. Is that is that what it was 297 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: all about? 298 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, now, I'm gonna start playing come 299 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: sail Away in instead of rend of game. 300 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. Fox Sports Radio Dennis de Young along 301 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: with my bess friend Tommy Shaw coming up next. NFL 302 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: insider Jason call the latest on the Steelers Elsewhere preview 303 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: with a big Thursday night game with the Cowboys and 304 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: the Lions. That's next here, Jason and Mike Fox. 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So it 325 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: had to be playing? 326 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't mean people aren't gonna be upset. 327 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: That's the reason they're upset. Sending along at swollen Domett. 328 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: How about a fresca if wamageddon and getting whammed? How far? 329 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: How far do you make it? Two days admitted to 330 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: the third I made it to Harmon and Smith Jerks 331 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon 332 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: Live from the Tirec dot Com Studios. So big stuff 333 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL today. Ben Roethlisberger and James harrit some 334 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: Steeler legends, both think Mike Tomlin should be coaching elsewhere. 335 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: James Harrison says he's not getting the most out of 336 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: his players. Ben Roethlisberger says maybe he can go coach 337 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Penn State. 338 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 339 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: We get a lot of crazy stuff we're dealing with, 340 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: and because of that, we bring in the craziest guy 341 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: we know. 342 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Longtime NFL insider. Check him out of the thirty third team. 343 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: He is a Pro Football Hall of Very Good voter. 344 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. It is 345 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Jason Cole. What's happening? Man? 346 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 6: Doo dooo dood boot there we go, get it fired up. 347 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 6: There's nothing better than the beginning of that song really 348 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 6: than the beginning of that song. So do you think 349 00:16:53,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 6: really that's just one of the greatest yeah blues guitar intros. 350 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 6: That's one of the grace that there is right there, 351 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 6: po po po. 352 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: So Hey. 353 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 3: So first year at Penn State Mike Tomlin nine wins, 354 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: eight wins. Would it be a bellt chick like the year? 355 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: What would that be? 356 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 6: I think it might be with Miami and the Dolphins. 357 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 6: That might be a better hotch I don't think he's coaching. 358 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 6: Most guys in the NFL want no part of coaching 359 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 6: college college football. 360 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Ben Roethiser wants him to coach Penn State. 361 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: That's why I feel Okay. 362 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger is an idiot who doesn't understand how 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: college football works. Right now, Okay, Ben Roethlisberger just says 364 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 6: whatever he wants to say because he thinks that it'll 365 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 6: you know, people actually pay attention to his moronic clock trap. 366 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 6: I mean, but I mean, come on, He's not anybody 367 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: who's in the NFL staying in the NFL as long 368 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 6: as they possibly can because nobody wants to deal with 369 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 6: having to recruit their players twenty four seven three sixty 370 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 6: five because once you get a kid, you're just waiting 371 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 6: for somebody else to pull for him. So yeah, Tomlin 372 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 6: doesn't weigh that. I mean, he's not kissing anybody's rear, 373 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 6: so no, that's not happening. He's going to end up 374 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: coaching in the NFL. At the very worst, he'll sit 375 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 6: out a year, he'll do television. They've degraded television, and 376 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 6: then he'll decide whether he wants to be a defensive 377 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 6: coordinator or wants to be a head coach again, because 378 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 6: he'll be jobs open for him. That's how that's going 379 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 6: to work. 380 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: We already got him in Miami, you got him replace 381 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: in Mike McDaniel. 382 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I would. Look, I think there's gonna be 383 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 6: some ready made jobs if he wants to, If he 384 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 6: walks away, if they split, whatever happens. Could it happen. Sure, 385 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: would it happen if Dan Rooney was a lot Probably not. 386 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: But I think if Danny was around, and you know, no, 387 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 6: this is not a shot at art running the second, 388 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: I don't want to do that. But yeah, I think 389 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 6: they probably would have figured out a solution by now. 390 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 6: At the same time, they went through a lot of 391 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 6: years with Chuck Noele at the end where they were 392 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 6: just kind of waiting it out to see to you know, 393 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 6: figure out what they were going to do next. And 394 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 6: even the early years of their Cower, I mean, Tommy 395 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 6: Maddox did god, you know, like come on, like so there, 396 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 6: you know what they have that Mike who was the 397 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 6: line to take them to the super Bowl again? So 398 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 6: it was a Tom Zack or what was his name? 399 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 6: I can't remember the guy's name. Who's a quarterback, Neil o'donalds. Yeah, 400 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 6: he was only slightly better with with the Steelers, you know, 401 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 6: like they went through a long time before they found 402 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 6: another you know, before they founded the franchise quarterback. And 403 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 6: that's their biggest problem. They got to find a franchise 404 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 6: quarterback and they haven't done it yet. So yeah, maybe 405 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 6: they'll do that with a new quarterback, and maybe they won't, 406 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: but their super Bowl history is written with franchise quarterback. 407 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 6: It's either Roethlisberger or Sports or Bradshaws. That's that's how 408 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 6: they win. 409 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, just curiosity for me is just always the the GMS. 410 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: There seemed to be empty suits. Everything falls on Tomblin 411 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: in the outside world. 412 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, that's not true. Are you talking 413 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 6: about in terms of blame. 414 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about blame and how it's the perception 415 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: is that those guys don't do anything, so it all 416 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: just goes straight on Tomblin. In terms of this quarterback search. 417 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean Almark Conson that went three years 418 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 6: as the jam taken number for Kevin Colbert, so. 419 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: He was in that building before that. 420 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 6: Though he was he was the cap guy. He was 421 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 6: not he was doing contracts. He wasn't. He wasn't picking players, 422 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 6: so you know understand what his role was. He was 423 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 6: not a scout, which may not portend to him being 424 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 6: able to take out a franchise quarterback. But his for 425 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: the Steelers is as much as we want to talk 426 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 6: about their consistency with with hold On Wan suck As No, 427 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: all right, I'm here. I'm sorry. 428 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I doubt if the Steelers were coming at me, but 429 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Mike Tommin was at your house going, yeah, you say 430 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: that to my face, Jason Cole, it was it was. 431 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 6: Our rony on the call on the call right here again. Anyways, 432 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 6: as much as their history is about the consistency of 433 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 6: they're head coaching and the fact that they've made so 434 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 6: few changes. Yeah, A deeper look into it is it's 435 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: about the quarterback to have they had a franchise quarterback. 436 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 6: And when they have had a franchise quarterback, a truly 437 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 6: great player, they've won super Bowls because they've usually put 438 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 6: it with it and married that with a good defense 439 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 6: and it works out. Okay, that's that's how it goes 440 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 6: for them. 441 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Jason Call our guest Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live from 442 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, so from there, 443 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: we take a look at Thursday Night football, the Cowboys 444 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: and the Lions and the Cowboy Bees and the Cowboys 445 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: offense and the and the way the Eagles have decidd. 446 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: We're just gonna play every other week. We have a 447 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: big game tomorrow night. 448 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 6: You they're not. They're not even playing every other week 449 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 6: every three weeks, like tailing card. Tailing car is like, yeah, 450 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 6: we're got to show. Oh we got a game today. Cool, 451 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 6: all right, thank you forgotten. 452 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: It's Sunday. 453 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Sunday. Stick up on me, man, they do. 454 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 6: Oh they do? Yeah, come on, man, I got some 455 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 6: road rage at Georgia. Look at my boy from New 456 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 6: Jersey helping me out in Georgia. Now, nobody. Nobody's gonna 457 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 6: get that line, are they Anyways? Yeah, the Eagles are confounding. 458 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 6: But to get them back to Dallas and Detroit, I'd 459 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 6: love to believe in Dallas, I really would. But how 460 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 6: many times have we seen this act and it's just goes, 461 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: you know, like just up in the smoke at some 462 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 6: point in time, Like it's like that bad and Candell 463 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 6: that you get on fourth of July and you lay 464 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 6: it and it just kind of sparks a little bit. 465 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: It sparks a little bit more, it smarks a little 466 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 6: bit more, and you're afraid to approach it because you 467 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 6: think it's going to explode at the moment that juice, 468 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 6: you go up to it, and then you walk up 469 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 6: to it and you realize, now there's nothing there. It's 470 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: just it's empty. It's it's gone, and you just pour 471 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 6: water on it and you move on. That's what the 472 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 6: Cowboys are. It really is what they are. They're just 473 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 6: a team five hundred and they happen to put a 474 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 6: couple of games together. And I know the Pickens and 475 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb have been awesome and everybody wants to talk 476 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 6: about that. I don't trust this team. You know at all, 477 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 6: and I've seen this routine too many times over the 478 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 6: last thirty years. It just it's not happening. Sorry, don't. 479 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 6: I don't believe it, not one tiny little bit. And 480 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 6: we're just waiting for a George Pickens meltdown, which is 481 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 6: about to happen anytime when he realizes when Jerry Jones walked, yeah, 482 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 6: I think we're gonna have some franchise. Yeah, George, I 483 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 6: just don't see that kind of big contract because we 484 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: were doing that for my cup and now we just 485 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 6: you know, we're just not doing that. We're just gonna 486 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 6: we're just gonna move on them. So we're gonna franchise 487 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 6: you and pick things. We'll just literally explode. If he 488 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 6: hears the word franchise tag the two words franchise, we 489 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: will literally explode, explode. 490 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: You have to stop the run. We're gonna play five. 491 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep playing five defensive linemen, uh whenever we 492 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: want to, because you know, if you realize that, boy, 493 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: we kind of stoked up at the position. So uh, 494 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of our strategy going forward. Thank you, Good 495 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: morning to you. 496 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna play Clinton understanding that. How does 497 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 6: it feel like you. Actually the Jets turned the Cowboys 498 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 6: into contenders. How does that feel for you? 499 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like, hey, you know the Jets 500 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: that you know they can do something right once in 501 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: a while. 502 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 6: Somebody else that's right, X. 503 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: Jet now good? Uh, next level. By the way, Jerry 504 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Jones walking to his press availability on say with a 505 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: turkey or Thursday said, with a turkey leg in his 506 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: hand might have might have been peak Jerry Jones. 507 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it was plastic. I give Jerry. You know, 508 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 6: nobody front runs like like Jerry Jones, not at least 509 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 6: not in sports. Maybe in politics, and I won't say who, 510 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 6: but nobody nobody front runs like Jerry Jones. He's greatest. 511 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 6: Which is all part of the magic, It's all part 512 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 6: of the act. It's like, yeah, we look like a 513 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 6: Super Bowl contender. I'm a genius. I'm just about to 514 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 6: tell you. Let's start writting those super Bowl techs steaming, 515 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: get on that right now. Get the travel plans. We 516 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 6: got a couple of hotels. We got we do. We've 517 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 6: got a couple of hotels already. We're you know, we're 518 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: gonna set up before tell all the wives and girlfriends 519 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 6: where we're going. To be staying so they can get 520 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: all the families take Yeah, I know we haven't finished 521 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: the season now, but we're going to plan for the 522 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: super Bowl thanks right now. Like they get ahead of 523 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 6: themselves every single time they win two games in a 524 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 6: row and all of a sudden, the print and super 525 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 6: Bowl tickets. That's how the Cowboys operate. Yeah. 526 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: But here's the thing though, Jay called the Eagles seem 527 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: like they just can't wait for the season to end. 528 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: They look, this is like the Eagles at the end 529 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, where they're crossing days off till 530 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: the end of the calendar. It's like you all go 531 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: home and not have to see each other every day. 532 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 6: Well, they don't have any adults in the room anymore. 533 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 6: The adults in the room have all all left. Jason 534 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 6: Kels has gone Fletcher butlecher Cox is gone and brand 535 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 6: Graham quit for a while, so he doesn't really count. 536 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 6: I mean, so like anybody who can stand up and 537 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: tell Jalen, hey, Jayleen, can you cut that out or 538 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 6: look at aj and go a j we know that 539 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 6: you hate the quarterback. We don't care. Shut up right, No, 540 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 6: there's nobody around to do that. There's nobody around to 541 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 6: police the locker room. There's nobody bigger egos, there's you 542 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 6: know again, there's no adults in the room. And that 543 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 6: was that was the duty of Fletcher Cox, Jason Kel's, 544 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 6: Ryan Graham when he was around, and some of the 545 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: other older guys not around. Lane Johnson's not even there 546 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 6: to to really, you know, clean up and you know, 547 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 6: take somebody new task. And Jordan my Lot is as 548 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 6: good a guy as he is, he ain't gonna do it. 549 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 6: He's just not that guy. 550 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to see how far back you were going 551 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: to go. 552 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 6: You know. 553 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: Jaworski's not there to keep everybody on. 554 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 6: Michaels, no, no, Harold Carmichael, Wilbert Montgomery. 555 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: Is not there. No, not, not there to do anything. 556 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no, Chuck but Noark, no, nope, 557 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: uh no. 558 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Jackson's not there. 559 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 6: No no, no Van Brock one no no. 560 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: Steve van Buren, No, Steve van Buren is not there either, No, no, not. 561 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep going all the way back. 562 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: All right. 563 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you one to the other question. 564 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 6: Two years, one year last year and the other one 565 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 6: the year before. Kind of out was I'm going to 566 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 6: back to ancient times talking about Kelsey and cock. 567 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: Dick for me, is not there anymore. It's not happening. Lord, hey, 568 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, since so where is us? 569 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 6: Which one of you said Wilbert Montgomery today? 570 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I said, Wilbert Montgomery. I said, well, well, we both 571 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: we jinxed ourselves by both saying Harold Carmichael at the same. 572 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 6: Time bringing back zach Er snick fole. 573 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Zach ERTs still playing making big catches in Washington. Marion 574 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: Campbell's out there, he's not walking through that door. Sure, hey, 575 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: really quickly, do Belichick, Inductor. 576 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 6: Mary and Campbell. Mary. Campbell was not with the Eagle 577 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 6: the Falcons. 578 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: No, he was that coach of the Eagles. Yeah, I'm 579 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: positive Marion Campbell's head coach of the Eagles. 580 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 6: I was coach of the Falcons. Weak. We're gonna we 581 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 6: have Frostburg. What's we're going? All? Right, arm you got 582 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 6: a question, you think it's important. Let's go. 583 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Very quickly. Do Robert Craft and Bill Belichick come to 584 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: blows when they're both inducted into the Hall together. 585 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 6: It's gonna be so great, It would be so great 586 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 6: to have this. The problem is, but if the seniors 587 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: getting the way of this, only one guy may get in. 588 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: I think that would be Belichick, right, But do you 589 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 6: think that's all right? 590 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: You're you're going to completely keep Belichick out. I mean 591 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: we're counting on you for that. 592 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 6: No, to put Belichick in. I was on the I 593 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: was on the coach committee. 594 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: No, you lose a sandwich for your three year, three 595 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: sandwich deal. 596 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 6: You lose a sandwich in the negotiations. Call Scott Boroughs 597 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 6: is my guy. He's my new guy that was not 598 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 6: in the deal. He's renegotiating my next my next sandwich contract. 599 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Marion Campbell, head coach of the Atlanta Falcons from eighty 600 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: seven to eighty nine, head coach of the Eagles from 601 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: eighty three to eighty five. 602 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 6: Wow and birds. Okay, very good, Okay, good, good memory 603 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 6: for you there. So anyways, getting back to you know, 604 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 6: the somewhat rolevant point to check and craft. I'm hoping 605 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: so this I really am hoping. But you know the 606 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 6: problem is that the way the system is built, and 607 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 6: last year it happened. You know, we only got Sterling 608 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 6: sharp in our five guys. So you know, this year 609 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: we have three very good senior candidates in Roger Craig, L. C. 610 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 6: Greenwood and Ken Anderson, and every bit of the votes 611 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 6: that they take away take away from me the chance 612 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 6: to get you know, eighty percent for both Belichick and Craft. 613 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 6: Because you only have one hundred and fifty votes, they 614 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 6: have to get forty. Again, I'm figuring that Belichick gets 615 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 6: at least forty, and then the question is, out of 616 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 6: that remaining one hundred and ten votes, how's that going 617 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 6: to be split? Is Craft's going to be able to 618 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 6: get forty of those votes? That's that's a really tough 619 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 6: part because those two deserve to get in, and they 620 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 6: should go in and prankically. They should go in together 621 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 6: and have to deal with each. 622 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: Other, present, have to present each other, have to present 623 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: each other in. That's how it should go. He's on 624 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two as at Jason Cole sixty. 625 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 6: Two, go Aztex dude. 626 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: All right, that'd be awesome. They're presenting each other on 627 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: the way in. It's time how to find out what's 628 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: trending in the wide world of sports on Montsi Belagio 629 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: sponsor what he got for us? 630 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, we will start in the NFL week fourteen 631 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 8: kicks off Thank You with Thursday Night football between the 632 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 8: Lions and the Cowboys. Detroit wide receiver Alvin Rossay Brown 633 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 8: is questionable. Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert says that the plan 634 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 8: is for him to play Monday night against the Eagles now. 635 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 8: He did have a plate and multiple screws put in 636 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 8: to repair his fractured left hand. The Browns have opened 637 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 8: the twenty one day practice window four quarterback Deshan Watson, 638 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 8: and the Buccaneers opened the twenty one day practice window 639 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 8: for wide receiver Mike Evans, who also practiced today. When 640 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 8: it comes to the NBA, the agent for Buckstar Young 641 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 8: Santete Kumpo, initiated talks with the team's front office over 642 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 8: the future of the two time MVP with the organization, 643 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 8: and then in today's game, Janna Santa Toakompo left in 644 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 8: the first quarter due to a non contact injury, who 645 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 8: was ruled out with the right CAF strain. Bucks were 646 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 8: down eighteen but came came back to defeat the Pistons 647 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 8: one thirteen to one oh nine. Cooper Flag had twenty 648 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 8: two points. The Mavericks topped the heat one eighteen to 649 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 8: oneh eight. Clippers no longer on a losing streak, now 650 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 8: on a winning streak. 651 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: They beat the Hawks. 652 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 8: One fifteen to ninety two. 653 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: Jardy I had to get rid of it is morning, 654 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: all that positivity in the locker room back right now? 655 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Okay uh. 656 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 8: The Spurs stop the Magic one fourteen to one oh two. 657 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 8: Darren Fox dropped thirty one points, including hitting the final 658 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 8: two free throws to give them the win. 659 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: But it was Jamal Murray's night. 660 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 8: He dropped fifty two points in Indiana and the Nuggets 661 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 8: defeated the Pacers won thirty five to one twenty. In 662 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 8: men's college hoops, two schools suffered their first loss today. 663 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 8: That was number twenty two Indiana, who lost to Minnesota 664 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 8: seventy three to sixty four, and number twenty five Arkansas 665 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 8: defeated number six. 666 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: Louisville eighty nine to eighty. 667 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 8: There's two NHL games still going on. The Capitals are 668 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 8: shutting out the Sharks five zero late in the second period. 669 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 8: Alex Soovechkin has already scored two goals, so he's up 670 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 8: to nine hundred and eleven career goals, and the Mammoth 671 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 8: are shutting out the Ducks three zero halfway through the 672 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 8: second period. 673 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, thanks a bunch much. Yes, Jason 674 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Smith Mike Harmer for the Fox Sports Radio Studios. You 675 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: wear a sandwich board and stand out on Ventura Boulevard, 676 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: not happening. You know, I could probably get some Hawks. Oh, 677 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: I could probably get some Hawks. 678 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 8: Maybe only a few people would throw food at me 679 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 8: or like a drink, you know, but I would. 680 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: Get more Hawks. 681 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 8: Well then Laker fans throwing food. 682 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: At me, yeah, oh they would. I guess absolutely. I 683 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: would not throw foods. I'd want to eat it, not 684 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: going to throw as they're driving. 685 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: You know something. 686 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get some money, maybe maybe somebody makes it playing. 687 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: You'll be planning some trees there, here's some money if 688 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: I have it called on, here's some money. 689 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Now, that's gonna. 690 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 8: Be my Halloween costume next year. 691 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna carry a tree put on. 692 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 8: Yes, that's it. 693 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: That's it. 694 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 8: We're ready, We're ready. 695 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harvin live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. 696 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: Coming on, as we get back into the biggest NBA 697 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: story of the day, Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. Fox. 698 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith 699 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 700 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 701 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, 702 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Two big stories 703 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: in the NBA today. Jannis potentially now looking for a 704 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: trade officially he gets hurt tonight calf strain. We'll have 705 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: more on that with Rick Buker coming up in about 706 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: a half hour. But elsewhere, Chris Paul is now looking 707 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: for the final place he can go to to finish 708 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: his NBA career. Yeah uh Paul, who would previous announced 709 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be his final year in the NBA year 710 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: twenty one for him? This is it was waived by 711 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: the Clippers last night at three o'clock in the morning. 712 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah Clippers GM Lawrence Frank putting out the statement today. 713 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh, we. 714 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: Got a roster change. Chris Paul is no longer with 715 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: the team, was sent home from their road trip, and 716 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: now Chris Paul, who knows what he's got left for 717 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: the rest of this year. Very curious set of circumstances, right, 718 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and playing time in the what mid teens for his minutes. 719 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: A lot of scuttle butt floating today of how vocal. 720 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: He'd been talked about it a little bit last hour. 721 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: When you get into the you know, you can only 722 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: be as loud as your talent allows you. And when 723 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: you're no longer the guy, maybe you don't get to 724 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: talk as much, even if you are the elder statesman. 725 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: But many people upset that he didn't get all the 726 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: flowers and the going away party. Well, and that's the reason, 727 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: because you could throw this Yet it's weird. It's weird, 728 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: it's it's sad, it's it's it's clippers, it's clip. 729 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 3: What do I say all the time? You can't escape 730 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 3: your identity. Maybe you can lose it for a few 731 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: years and say, hey, I found a way to escape that, 732 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: that identity that has just dogged me for the last 733 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: thirty years. But eventually you come back to it. 734 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: Right. 735 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 3: The Clippers, Look, they were the bottom of the barrel 736 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: for the NBA for so long. They were an embarrassing franchise. 737 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: And Steve Balmer comes in and guess what that the 738 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: high line highlife for a little bit, right. They went out, 739 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: they they bought, got a couple of superstars. Things were 740 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: looking okay, spotlights come on, I mean they went out, 741 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: they were competing in the Western Conference. They were potentially 742 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: just a couple of plays away here and there from 743 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: moving on. Instead, they blow three to one. 744 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: Leads likes to do just the way he phrases that. 745 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: Yes they are members of the Western members of the 746 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Western Conference. Yes they were right. 747 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: But you had the beginning of Lob City and and 748 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 3: and Blake Griffin and Chris Paul, and then you had 749 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: the segue into what we've had the last few years 750 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and now James hard Okay, 751 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 3: you had you had the fast Lane, you would say, 752 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: we have a new we have the into It Dome, 753 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: we have our own place to play. Balmers taking a 754 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 3: really bad situation turn into something positive. But now they're 755 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: back to be in the Clippers again. Now they're back 756 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 3: to being the embarrassing Clippers because they're terrible. They made 757 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 3: bad decisions coming into this year. You can't go double 758 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 3: and triple down on thirty five year old guys in basketball. 759 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: I don't know why you kept feeling we kept keep 760 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: having to give Kawhi Leonard money. You got to keep 761 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: giving James Harden money. That's not gonna buy you championships. 762 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: You don't. You don't build a foundation around guys in 763 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: their mid to late thirties and expect to win. And 764 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: now you have to deal with a very old Clipper 765 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: headline because it look, there's millennials and gen z people 766 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: that don't remember the whole Clipper era before Steve Balmer 767 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: took over. But now when you fire somebody in the 768 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: middle of the night, when you at three am, you 769 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: decide we're sending you home. And this is how a 770 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: guy that came back to the team because for some 771 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: reason he wanted to end here. He wanted to end 772 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: with the Clippers, right like, don't you want to end 773 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: some plate, No, I want to end with the Clippers. Okay, 774 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: that couldn't even go well, and that the team had 775 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: to cut them in the middle of the night, in 776 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the season. This is the Clippers. Hey, 777 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: all right, we're back to be in that Clipper franchise 778 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: that you knew for a really long time. And we 779 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: were playing at the fore and we were playing at 780 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: the Sports Arena. We couldn't make the playoffs. It was embarrassing. 781 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: We had embarrassing Clipper headlines every five seconds. Oh yeah, yeah, no, 782 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: they're back there. Now officially they had that time away. 783 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: They had they had the nice ten year run where hey, 784 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: maybe the Clippers can really become one of the next 785 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: great teams in the NBA. Get out of the Lakers shadow, No, no, no, 786 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: Now that we're smack Dad, back to being the old Clippers. Well, 787 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: but at least this one's about basketball. I mean, let's 788 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: let's go through the history. New Orleans, Clippers, Houston, Okay, 789 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: see Phoenix, Golden State, San Antonio. Back to Clippers for 790 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: what was supposed to be the final run. You've got 791 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: the quote from from James Harden. Me too, woke up 792 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: and saw it on social media. I'm just as confused 793 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: and shocked as you guys. The world definitely surprised me, 794 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: but not just Chris. It's a lot we're dealing with, 795 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: but that's out of my hands. So James Harden saying, 796 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: can I get out too? 797 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 6: Maybe he's got. 798 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: Palmer is a liar. Let me say it again, Steve 799 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: Balmer is a liar. Does he have a long enough 800 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: break that he can go do a shoe thing in 801 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: China and yell it for the guy in the back? 802 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: Let me yell it again. I don't want to be here, 803 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: But think about it. It's back to basketball because earlier 804 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: it was about this tree and we make the little 805 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: obligatory shots about the Kawhi Leonard ideas of cap circumvention, 806 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: and you know what, it went nowhere because every team's 807 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: got some skeletons in the closet related to that and 808 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: they don't want it pushed. So that goes back. So 809 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: now we're back to the basketball business of all right, 810 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: what else? How bad could it be if it's a 811 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: guy calling you and challenging you just to do your 812 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: job and that makes him a villain. Hey, I don't 813 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: need Chris yelling at me, man, that's Clippers. Look, he 814 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: wasn't talking to Tylo. They weren't getting along, so yeah, 815 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: you gotta go. Several weeks since he talked to Tylo, 816 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: evidently you gotta go. He wanted a meeting and he 817 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: told to beat it. 818 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 3: All of this last seven eight minutes could be just 819 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: filed under one word Clippers. Clippers. Clippers. They're back to 820 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: being the Clipper. They had a nice run. 821 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: They never left being there, nice break. No never left, 822 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: but people embraced them for a minute. Now they're shoving 823 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: them away. Coming up next, we'll preview the biggest Thursday 824 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: night football game of the year. Fox