WEBVTT - Keeping the Tags On with Atsuko Okatsuka

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine. Oh hate Chelsea. I was with my sister

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, caretaking for her because she had that

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<v Speaker 1>surgical procedure. Oh my god. I was such a good nurse.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, yeah, she has this huge scar

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<v Speaker 1>down her back which was really gnarly, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like listen. I was up there for ten days over Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>in between my tour dates, and I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>like be there for her, which was very meaningful. But

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<v Speaker 1>right away I was like, let's get into some physical therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I brought bands, I had my like pilates ring,

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<v Speaker 1>I had like very light weights. She's like, Chelsea. They

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<v Speaker 1>told me not to do anything for six to eight weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're not a doctor. I'm like, bitch, I am

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking doctor. And until the physical therapist, because we

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<v Speaker 1>had to wait to find a pt that could come.

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<v Speaker 1>She was gonna wait a month to go to physical therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally I found, you know, through my assistant. She found

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to come over to her apartment. Right away gave

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<v Speaker 1>her every single exercise that I gave her. The physical

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<v Speaker 1>therapist is like, now you do, and she's looking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, oh my god, you are a doctor, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I am a doctor, Simone, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to follow my lead. You need to keep your

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<v Speaker 1>at moving at all times. That's how you gain strength.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they make you like get up after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six hours after the worst, most gnarly surgeries. They make

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<v Speaker 1>you You've got to get up right away. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like forty years ago, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to build strength. And we'd go for walks

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<v Speaker 1>each day. We would add a thousand steps and by

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<v Speaker 1>the time I left, we walked over the Golden Gate

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge together and Shoppy, oh my god. Yeah, she was

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<v Speaker 1>in great shape. She's like, wow, you really know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. I was like, yeah, I do. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a medical professional everyone, and I know you have a

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<v Speaker 1>cold this week. But we actually recorded most of this

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<v Speaker 1>episode with Otsko a few weeks ago when we were

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<v Speaker 1>all in the throes of midterm elections. Uh, Chelsea, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a time sensitive question that I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion on. So Karen sent us an email. She's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four, she says, Dear Chelsea, I'm the youngest child

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<v Speaker 1>of a mildly dysfunctional family and have two older sisters

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<v Speaker 1>forty and forty five, respectively, and an older brother. All

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<v Speaker 1>my siblings are married with children, and I'm the KIANTI

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<v Speaker 1>to eight nieces and nephews ranging an age from eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>down to two. I'm in need of your perspective and advice.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother and sister in law just sent out an

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<v Speaker 1>email to myself and my two sisters stating how that

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<v Speaker 1>now that their oldest is eighteen, they don't want us

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<v Speaker 1>giving presents to her for Christmas or birthdays. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to stop giving gifts at some point. I

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<v Speaker 1>disagree and replied, stating that I think gift giving is

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<v Speaker 1>the voluntary choice of the giver, and so if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to give anything, don't. But you can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me not to, especially about giving a gift to another adult,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they are your child. It's been over a

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<v Speaker 1>week and it's radio silence on the group email, no replies,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that she has since started side messages

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<v Speaker 1>with each of my sisters. I've come to terms with

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<v Speaker 1>my place in the family and the fact that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>given less credibility because I'm unmarried with no children, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm an independently successful woman in a high powered career,

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<v Speaker 1>my own mortgage, retirement savings, and have traveled the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do I know? I'm not sure how to

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<v Speaker 1>go forward with Christmas? This here. I love giving a

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<v Speaker 1>good gift and seeing the joy on someone's face when

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<v Speaker 1>you nail it. I don't want it to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm punishing my brother's kids by not giving a gift

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<v Speaker 1>to them either, since that would only be fair. What

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<v Speaker 1>should I do, though? Do I give nothing to everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I leave one out or three out? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>give extra presents to spite my sister in law? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I make a donation in their name or buy them

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<v Speaker 1>therapy sessions to unpack their childhood? Help? As a fellow youngest?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do? I'm at a loss. Karen, Oh, Karen,

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<v Speaker 1>do your thing, Get your gifts for all of your

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<v Speaker 1>nieces and nephews. Don't overdo it. Just do what you

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<v Speaker 1>would normally do. Nobody can control whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>give a gift to somebody else. That's their prerogative. If

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to give the gift to their eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old kid, you're that You're an aunt, that's your specialty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're here for, is gift giving, so keep

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to do that. I co sign exactly give those gifts. Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this episode is exciting. We take this episode earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. It's with one of my favorite Comedianssko Okotska,

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<v Speaker 1>who's special is now available to stream on HBO called

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<v Speaker 1>the Instruder, and she's our guest today and she's fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So get ready Otsko Okotska, everybody say it three times,

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<v Speaker 1>Katsko cut Scott, thank you, Chesse. You know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually Chelsea, It's it isn't my yarka. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>all remember it is? It's Chelsea. That's that's like they

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<v Speaker 1>always have to add like a little flare right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my my German grandmother used to call me Chelsei and

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking hated that pronunciation. I mean she sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>such a Nazi every time she said it. Nine yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nine is no in German. How's the Spanish going? Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for asking? Actually, yeah, pay attention, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. When you know Otsko Kotska, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like so different than than Spanish. And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she's got Spanish brain. Well that's a great use,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I mean, I've been taking Spanish lessons again.

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<v Speaker 1>My Spanish is getting very good, actually not very good,

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<v Speaker 1>but like my Bell now speaks to me only in

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish and I understand of what she's saying rather than

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be. And now I can speak in

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<v Speaker 1>the past tense, which I learned through my tutor. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's developing, and I'm just going to keep my practice

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<v Speaker 1>in my books every day like a little girl. Well

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<v Speaker 1>not every day, but like once a week I do

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<v Speaker 1>my workbook for my homework for my Spanish class. So

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<v Speaker 1>it feels good. Like I like to learn, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so into language, so it's perfect. And my

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<v Speaker 1>Bell is like I was talking to her about like

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<v Speaker 1>pronunciations and she was like, oh, you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>say that in Mexico and I'm like, well, no offense,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I'm using this for Spain and she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just only know it in slang, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>no offense either, but I'm not trying to learn slang.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to learn proper Spanish that I could speak regionally,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had different sorts of regions. She's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make you relatable to the streets yeah, yeah, well, exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how many languages do you speak out? I speak three,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like all of them not that well,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them is the one I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you in. You know, it's really just like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of its improvisation. What are the languages that you speak?

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<v Speaker 1>I speak Mandarin, Japanese and English and oh oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been moisten. O god, and it's fruit punch flavored

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<v Speaker 1>electrolytes because I'm eight. Oh, it's okay. Why does that stain? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. I'm just gonna have a stained shirt. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, don't worry. There's nothing that's gonna help it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drinking during this podcast too, so hopefully I also

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<v Speaker 1>have a spill. I'm so shy. She's just like that

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<v Speaker 1>a maxim is that a Maxi shield? I have Maxi

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<v Speaker 1>shields before you though, okay, I give them to every

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<v Speaker 1>guest before Maxi shield it's for you put in your

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<v Speaker 1>Pikachu when you have your period and your underwear. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a little padne. But I like the word shield, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it sounds ridiculous. You know, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to know that this new invention I don't use

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<v Speaker 1>that because I'm getting what they call an ablazeon next

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<v Speaker 1>month before Christmas as my Christmas gift to myself, which

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<v Speaker 1>means they go inside your uterus and scorch it, blanche

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<v Speaker 1>it with steaming hot water so that you don't bleed anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm so sick of getting my period, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>over it. So it just gets so hot that your

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<v Speaker 1>uterus just goes like no more. It's just you're killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're killing the blood, so the blood. Like one percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people have a period again after they do this,

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<v Speaker 1>But my sister did it because my periods just like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't I don't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this anymore. And you know I have too much other

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<v Speaker 1>ship to deal with. I don't want to deal with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every three weeks, it's like again again again it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be every four weeks. Are you getting your period

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<v Speaker 1>every three weeks? Because I'm a guy to cologist? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that every Oh it's oh my gosh. You know

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<v Speaker 1>mine comes at different times. We're very different people. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on it, you know, I see your videos about like

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<v Speaker 1>this is how you pronounced this word. I'm the type

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<v Speaker 1>of person that's like, look, you know what I meant,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you just imagine what I meant. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was every three weeks, because then a

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<v Speaker 1>week is when I have the period. Can you make

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<v Speaker 1>sure the cameras on? Because her price tag is still

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<v Speaker 1>on her clothing. That's what I'm saying by we're different people.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do this everyone I worked. Your price

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<v Speaker 1>tags are still on your clothes and you gotta return

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<v Speaker 1>this or should I take? Can you tell me how

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<v Speaker 1>much it was before? I'm okay put it back in

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm still thinking about I thought, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>this was like a sale one. Anyway, Otsko always wears

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<v Speaker 1>the same outfit when I see her, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that she went and got this outfit just to

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<v Speaker 1>be like I have different outfits because she's like I listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen all my outfits already. Oh girl, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to free people right after this. Yeah, I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you take returns after I've been near a spill?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you should try and return this as an extra challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>You've already dried up, just like your pussy is gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for you, just like my pussy is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna dry up right after that ablation. There's really nothing

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<v Speaker 1>grosser than dry pussy. Like even when any anyone says

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, it's such a disgusting thought. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's not what I meant. You know. What

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<v Speaker 1>I meant was I'm so stoked for you that that

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<v Speaker 1>that you're never going to get your period again. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all I dream about, it's all that's what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for you, and I can't. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>use tampons because not that it's like, oh I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>small down there, but it always falls out. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 1>means you're actually big if so that is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, yeah either way. Yeah, So I hate using pads.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like a baby once a month. I don't, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never used a pad, even the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>got my period, I think it was thirteen, and my

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<v Speaker 1>sister came into the bathroom and she was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can use this or this, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna not gonna walk around with blood floating between

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<v Speaker 1>my legs in like open areas, Like that's gross. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so gross. But I guess some people really don't tampons.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God a tampa. I do not know

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<v Speaker 1>how to keep it in. That would be the advice

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you about later. I mean, we could to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a tamp on it, and I'll show you we

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<v Speaker 1>can do some kegels. But had to wrap this episode

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<v Speaker 1>up when where I swear it's not because I'm too big.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because I'm too small, Like I literally,

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting it in the front? Are you putting

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<v Speaker 1>in the back? I'm putting it what like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a trick question, but what do you mean back?

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<v Speaker 1>You know that when you get your period, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to put your fut in your asshole, and they put

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<v Speaker 1>it in my PV hole. What do you think I'm not?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not bird brained. I have Yeah, obviously I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>it in where you're getting scorched. That's why I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>where you're putting your tampon it and it falls out

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what size you use, yes, like yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just always halfway hanging out. You know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand about tampons. And this sounds really stupid at

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<v Speaker 1>my age, but I am stupid about a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna say it because my old assistant

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Whacker, told me, She's like, you know, your tampon

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<v Speaker 1>isn't going into your p hole. It's going into your

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<v Speaker 1>your vagina hole where you have sex out of. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, but then why when I pe,

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<v Speaker 1>does the tampon get get wet? Yeah? I do have

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<v Speaker 1>that question too, maybe because it's like falling out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit already, Like especially if it's already a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit soaked, it can fall out a little bit and

0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, oh, no, this is it's got p

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It shouldn't be getting that. It does, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it does every time I take a tampon out, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it hasn't come out a little and I've paid

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<v Speaker 1>with it in like if you because for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like, oh, I just thought you always had to

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<v Speaker 1>take your tampon out when you pee because it was

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the same hole. And this was until

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<v Speaker 1>I was in my thirties and someone explained to me

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different hole, and I was like, oh, ship

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<v Speaker 1>shitsky doodle again, wait way to come late to the party.

0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.720
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, but wait, why does it

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<v Speaker 1>always get wet and it comes out a little when

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<v Speaker 1>you pee, sometimes the tampon can come out. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Maybe because you're bearing down, are you

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<v Speaker 1>bearing down a little bit? I mean I'm always bearing

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<v Speaker 1>down at all time. There's always some thing in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to hold on to whatever is in there.

0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Even when I'm driving. Sometimes this is stick shift. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, don't come out right. That's why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a pad girl. That's why I walk around like a

0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.720
<v Speaker 1>baby every month, and one day soon I will do

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<v Speaker 1>the ablation to ablizion ablation. Yeah, ots go is another

0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.679
<v Speaker 1>person that isn't looking to have children, so you could

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<v Speaker 1>get an oblation. Right? Are you still there? Do you

0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.520
<v Speaker 1>still feel that we're still there? I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change. People would say, oh, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>clock it's gonna hit right, and I'm like, what what clock?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that much about myself where I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I'll change. I know, I know it's so annoying people

0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.320
<v Speaker 1>still ask me that I'm forty seven years old. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you going to get the fucking message that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't have a baby anymore? Yeah? Like little things change,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe my favorite color, but like you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, I'm not gonna a whole life change. Okays,

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit. Tell everybody about your history and

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<v Speaker 1>how you moved over here, the circumstances about how you

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<v Speaker 1>moved over to the United States, because it's a fascinating story. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I came to the States when I was ten.

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<v Speaker 1>My uma said we were coming for a two months vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she had us oversteered towards visas, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we became undocumented, and then we were stuck here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I made the best of it by doing stand

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<v Speaker 1>up comedy. You lived in a garage, right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in my uncle's garage with your mother and

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<v Speaker 1>your grandmother, with my mother and grandmother. It's like if

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen great gardens, it's kind of like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's less room to move around probably, but yeah, great gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>but poor and one more person. If you follow Otso

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, she posted videos all the time of

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<v Speaker 1>her and her grandmother, who is adorable, and our grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>gets down to business. So tell us about that experience, though.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like going to school when you I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to learn the language when you got here, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's kind of like immersion. What my bell

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<v Speaker 1>is doing to you right now, it's part time emersion

0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.280
<v Speaker 1>was doing too you Yeah, part time you know pretty much. Yeah,

0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.960
<v Speaker 1>where you know, everyone's speaking that language, and that is

0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.600
<v Speaker 1>really the quickest way to learn a language is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>no forgiveness, you know what I mean, no room for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, explaining what's going on. No, just this is

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<v Speaker 1>how I talked to you. Yeah, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>tough because also like you're a kid and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to really fit in, and I feel like yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was also embarrassed about our circumstances. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't invite friends back to my place because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even for birthdays or something. If it was my birthday,

0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would just not have a party because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want them being like, oh, you live here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Yeah, And my mom and grandma,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like elbow to elbow. A garage is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to hold three generations of people, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and our whole as personalities and baggage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not enough space for My mom has schizophrenia. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I developed an eating disorder too, And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>like thinking back, being like, God, a garage is not

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<v Speaker 1>enough space for and eating disorder, and you need a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of space. Well, you need privacy for an eating disorder,

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<v Speaker 1>you do. Yeah, And so we were just so on

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<v Speaker 1>top of each other, and so I'm kind of you know,

0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I joked that I'm sort of delayed and stunted as

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<v Speaker 1>an adult because I feel like it wasn't until I

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<v Speaker 1>got out of that situation that I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>finally have like the confidence to be like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to hang out? Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends? So I'm kind of late in the game

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<v Speaker 1>with socializing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I met Otsco at Largo, Yes, yeah, Largo?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I think that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we met, that's true. Yeah, yeah, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>following her on social media and she's so funny. And

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<v Speaker 1>she also did that drop down challenge where everybody, what's

0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that song called again? Yeah? Beyonce's partition, give me something? Yeah,

0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and then you dropped your ass down, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>the only dance move I can do, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even really nail that one. It's so slow motion that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe this is for me. That's what you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most athletic people I know, well athletic,

0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.320
<v Speaker 1>but I don't have rhythm. But it's like a squad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I could do it. And then Odsco slid

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<v Speaker 1>into my d MS asking if she could open me,

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<v Speaker 1>open for me, open me. She wanted to open me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, sure, open for me on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of stand up dates, and I was like, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you asked me. And then I met

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<v Speaker 1>your husband, who's also just a sweetheart, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>taped your HBO special which is going to come out

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<v Speaker 1>in December. I did, which you gave me so much

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<v Speaker 1>advice about, and so I super appreciate it because I

0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.680
<v Speaker 1>called you to be like, I had this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe do it all Broadway first, which would mean more

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<v Speaker 1>dates running it, you know, maybe a hundred more times

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<v Speaker 1>more than that before taping it, and you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just tape it because and that's how I worked too,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was really great advice. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming out already. You know, that's exciting. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know the date it's coming out yet? December tenth is

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<v Speaker 1>exciting going for Yeah, December. T Your special comes out

0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.840
<v Speaker 1>December ten. My special comes out December hers this on

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<v Speaker 1>HBO minus on Netflix amazing, Yes, yeah, baby, December is

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. People are at home, they want to

0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 1>watch stuff with family. Maybe they're sad. Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how nice? Is that? Awesome? And how did the

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<v Speaker 1>taping go? Tell us the taping went? Well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. I kind of wish I did it

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<v Speaker 1>in l A now, but everyone's always like, don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it in l A. L A. People are jaded with cameras,

0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.000
<v Speaker 1>so they're not gonna show it as much excitement, you know.

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But I'm an l A baby. I've been here since

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<v Speaker 1>I was ten, and so it's just one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would for my next for your next special. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good experience. Nonetheless, I mean for your next special,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take that in l A. Yeah. And so New

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<v Speaker 1>York was great, Brot. Grandma flew Grandma first you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you posting her on for her in first class.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, she was. She she was like this

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<v Speaker 1>lays down flat, you know. Oh. And I could just

0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.960
<v Speaker 1>keep bugging the people for food and snacks. And I

0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>found Chelsea that when I was in first class because

0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I had never flown first class too. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>sleep because I was like, oh, I think I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little uncomfortable to be able to sleep,

0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:22.000
<v Speaker 1>because that's what I'm used to. Well, no, it's not sad,

0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's like I can see that being true. Yeah,

0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.320
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, oh, like you know, I need too comfortable.

0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I need to be sitting up straight and my neck

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.359
<v Speaker 1>cricket and I need to have a kink in my

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<v Speaker 1>neck when I wake up. Truly be comfortable. It's so wild. Yeah, anyway,

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.639
<v Speaker 1>be totally exhausted, feeling awful. That's how you fall asleep

0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.240
<v Speaker 1>on a plane. You don't ever win. It's what I'm saying.

0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.360
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, the grass is always greener, and then even

0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.240
<v Speaker 1>when you get there, the grasses and stopped being green

0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and it turns yellow. Oh yeah, we got to Well,

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody urinated on it or had their period who didn't

0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:57.560
<v Speaker 1>have an oblation in that order. Everybody, if you're having

0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.800
<v Speaker 1>trouble following this conversation, you're not alone. Yeah, go back

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.919
<v Speaker 1>listen to what we just talked about. Catch yourself up

0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and talk about how you met your husband. We met

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>through a mutual friend, and you know, we had gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>like third day in we were at this patio. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a nice, nice day in l A. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was somebody who was sort of talking to themselves

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and people at the restaurant were sort of afraid and

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do. And Ryan, my husband, knew

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle the person and sort of calmed them down.

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<v Speaker 1>And it kind of surprised me because I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know to do that? Because it was

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<v Speaker 1>like signs of schizophrenia, which is one my mom has.

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<v Speaker 1>So I recognized it and I was like, how do

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you know how to deal with someone with that? And

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, my mom has it too, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that was yeah. So it was kind of cool where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I was already feeling you and

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:56.520
<v Speaker 1>liking you a lot, but this really like turn yeah

0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 1>a connection, yeah, a connection and the empathy. You know,

0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone was scared to deal with this unhoused person who

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 1>was talking to themselves. But this guy that I was

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to funk, but I was like, yeah, well funck

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>now you know right where he was like so kind

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to this person and knew how to calm them down,

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, So that's it's always surprising when men surprise

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.159
<v Speaker 1>us with just regular things that women would do, and

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>we're like, that's so hot and so sexy. When men

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 1>show empathy, Yeah, that's why. That's why there's waves of

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.719
<v Speaker 1>like women, I don't think we'll have the fandom of

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.199
<v Speaker 1>like Kianu Reeves or you know, oh his Mystery. You

0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.959
<v Speaker 1>know he's worked with mostly women directors, and that's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be mind blowing, you know, like where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he is so hot God, and he's

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>just you know, he just lives in hotels and you know,

0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he works with mostly women directors and it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like when women do that, it's

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like not as much of an allure I think. So

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not hot, it's more like, oh, they're starting a movement,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. I'm going to Disney that after this

0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 1>actually psychotic. Actually, Katherine just came from Disney, you did.

0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I just went this weekend. Oh my gosh. Yes, I

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>got a Mickey tumbler. I bought all the Christmas merch.

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even told my husband about it yet. I

0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 1>got bowls with Christmas Mickey. I got a platter with

0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Mickey. It was too much. It's too much. Katherine

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and I have nothing in common. No, I mean I

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.120
<v Speaker 1>was gonna. I mentioned this because I was like, I mean,

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>how does it feel to have too Disney adult friends

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 1>great right next to you on election day? When our

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>bodies are at stack? You guys are changing on a

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>roller coaster. Because that's how I deal with chaos. You're

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to Disneyland. Have you done this before during

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a chaotic day? No? But this year it felt right.

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, if I find out what

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.959
<v Speaker 1>happens with the elections, I want to at least be

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<v Speaker 1>upside down on the roller coaster screaming. You know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if we're going to find out everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Today people are like already filing lawsuits for things that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even happened yet. It's just like, oh, great, this

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<v Speaker 1>could carry on for weeks. I hope not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope most of them get called. But yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that optimistic. I hope we have some surprises, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm so sick and tired of this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for sure, Yeah for this you can always

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<v Speaker 1>move to Spain. Yeah I can I can move to Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>or I can move to Canada. Yeah that's closer. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're learning Spanish, you know, But I'm also learning Canadian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool. What have you learned? I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about that later. Okay. All you have to learn

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada has had to skim. Has never been skiing though, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a outdoors athletics person. Like the extreme sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I like to watch. Yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like to watch it? Though? Like if my

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>friend is doing it, I'll stand there and watch. Okay,

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it's very horny energy, Like would you like to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics when that happens? Oh? Not really? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the I watched the performance. Oh the Spice

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<v Speaker 1>girls are back together, you know that kind of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's the super Bowl the Olympics. That Icce girls

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<v Speaker 1>don't fucking perform, so they did one time in London

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<v Speaker 1>a long time for the Olympics. Yeah, yes, I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the Olympics that those Olympics. Yeah, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the London Olympic competing. Yes, I actually was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing the curl. It's called curling, but I call it

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<v Speaker 1>the curl and it's men's I was competing with the

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<v Speaker 1>men's team. So on this podcast, we give advice, life

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<v Speaker 1>advice to people. So I just molested you. Um, we

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<v Speaker 1>give life advice. We have real people calling, in writing,

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>in calling Katherine, you can break down for us what

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<v Speaker 1>we have in store for today. Yes, we actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of really big questions. And you're so open

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<v Speaker 1>about so much of the stuff that you've been through.

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I was able to pull some really great questions for

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<v Speaker 1>you that are right in your wheelhouse. So oh great,

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>even better, the stakes are high. Yeah, we can take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break and then we'll be right back for callers. Okay,

0:23:56.240 --> 0:24:04.439
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break and we're back. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're back. We're back. So our first question comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Kalina. She's in Romania. I was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>where the fund is Kalina from, because I have never

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<v Speaker 1>heard that Lena Romania, Romania. Dear Chelsea, my name is Kalina.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a thirty year old girl from Romania. I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your podcast. It opens my mind while making me laugh.

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Great combo. I struggle with anxiety, with depression, sprinkles. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also neurodivergent, which makes life even more interesting. I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>only child and the only family I have close by

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<v Speaker 1>are my parents, so all my life I relied on

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<v Speaker 1>making strong connections with friends, which come easy. I'm currently

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<v Speaker 1>going to therapy, but it's a long process. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>based on your experience as a human on this planet,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love your input. I tend to rely on

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<v Speaker 1>other people to feel safe, to feel loved, and to

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<v Speaker 1>feel worthy, which is funny because I really enjoy being alone,

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>but I just need to know that there's someone there

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just in case. Because of this, I sacrifice my knees

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and self sabotage, sometimes spending time with people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>treat me well because of that fear of being alone,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm well aware that what people do is

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<v Speaker 1>out of my control. My question is how do I

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<v Speaker 1>become enough for myself? How do I become secure enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make decisions and be clear about what I want?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I feel worthy? Thank you for sharing your joy, Kalina. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear that, Kalina. I think that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways in which you can make yourself feel

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<v Speaker 1>more full without relying on somebody to fill you up,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not really a great recipe, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can get that from a spouse or

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<v Speaker 1>a partner in the best, most ideal situation, but ideally

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<v Speaker 1>for you even to find that person or best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to be full on your own because

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>you kind of attract what you are. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>are healthy and you are alone and you're happy doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an exercise, not everybody feels comfortable being alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a long period of time in my

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<v Speaker 1>life where I was never alone. I always had a

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<v Speaker 1>group of people around me. I always had lots of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, action, chaos. Even when I grew up, I

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<v Speaker 1>was in a family of six kids, so there was

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<v Speaker 1>always commotion and there was always action and I took

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<v Speaker 1>that through my adulthood because I thought that's the way

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>things were supposed to be. And it wasn't until I

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<v Speaker 1>went to therapy where I learned how to be by

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<v Speaker 1>myself and through therapy, and this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>learned even before therapy, is like what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>when you are alone? What are the things and the

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<v Speaker 1>activities that fill you up? Like for me, it's reading

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<v Speaker 1>books and watching TV and exercising, Like I love to

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<v Speaker 1>do all of those three things, and I do that

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<v Speaker 1>always alone. I don't like to exercise with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously don't like to read books with other people

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<v Speaker 1>because that doesn't make any sense. And I like watching

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>TV with people, but it's like my alone activities. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I would say, on a very basic, fundamental level,

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<v Speaker 1>is to pick three things that you really love to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and then start doing that in your alone time by yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>to just kind of recharge and regenerate your own relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself, because that's really all that is ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to matter in your life. When you can depend on you,

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to get you through every difficult time

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<v Speaker 1>and every happy time. And the more secure you become,

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the more secure that the people you attract in your

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<v Speaker 1>life are going to be. What do you think, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was really you know, as a person who's never alone,

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm so opposite, you know, because I'm like, gosh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just always with at least my husband. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I was working out to somebody, and I

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<v Speaker 1>that is a time I do it myself. Besides, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to work out by myself too. The workout

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<v Speaker 1>teacher said, you know, she had gone through a divorce.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I get very heavily invested in my fitness instructors. But

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<v Speaker 1>she just went through divorce, and she was saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was hard to get through the divorce and having

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up alone because she hadn't been alone in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. But once he was gone, you know

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<v Speaker 1>from her life, she was instead of waking up and

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<v Speaker 1>loving someone else, she was forced to love herself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh wow, that's so true. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just that switch of a mindset where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when people aren't around, take that as an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be like, oh, I can invest in me

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<v Speaker 1>right now. What am I thinking? What am I my feelings?

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<v Speaker 1>I love myself instead of being like what do you

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<v Speaker 1>need right now? What do you need to know? What

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.239
<v Speaker 1>do I need right now? And so I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a switch of a mindset kind of like instead

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<v Speaker 1>of I'm nervous to go on stage, it's I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to go on stage kind of yes, or nerves me

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited, you know. Or nerves are a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I remember someone telling me, Like, when you're nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>it means you care. I'm like, Okay, Now, if I

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<v Speaker 1>can think about it that way, this means I care,

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<v Speaker 1>which is much better than not caring at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the things that you said that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out, Kalina, is it, Kalina, Yeah, am I saying

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<v Speaker 1>that right? Okay? Great? Is that your friends are like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're not hanging around with the best people that

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you could choose to hang out with, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>telltale sign that you have work to do on yourself,

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>because a healthy person just doesn't need that in their lives.

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>So don't settle just for whoever you can hang out with.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually be discerning about the people you choose to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with, and I think that will yield a much

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<v Speaker 1>better quality of person. Mm hmm. These questions are the

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<v Speaker 1>big questions in life, like how do I make myself

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<v Speaker 1>feel worthy and feel like I am enough by myself?

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<v Speaker 1>And while those are huge questions that we can't necessarily

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>answer on this show, I think those specific things are

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<v Speaker 1>also where things like affirmations can come in. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>Osco said, our brains are very malleable. Just reframing what

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, spending time with yourself telling yourself how great

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you are. You know, that you're smart, whatever your qualities

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that you love the most. Finding some affirmations that really

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<v Speaker 1>feel good to you can help reframe just the thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>come up in your brain on a routine basis. Yeah,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, we mentioned Laura Lynn Jackson earlier, that famous

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Long Island medium. She's not the Long Island medium because

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>there's another Long Island medium. But anyway, Laura Lynn Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a good friend of mine, I go, I just

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>want to be positive towards everybody, even the people that

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. I want to have good vibes. I

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>want to throw good vibes at them. I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed. I don't want to wish for anyone to

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<v Speaker 1>have bad luck or bad fortune or whatever. And she

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>gave me this exercise where you get up every morning

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<v Speaker 1>and you write, you know, for one minute, the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing before you do anything, before you even brush your teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>you write down for one minute, just everything you're grateful for.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is scientific data that proves that after twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one days, you're changing your energetic field, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>field of energy that you give off. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>already shared that with like two of my girlfriends because

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend said to me. Three days later, she said

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing to me. She goes, I am so

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>fucking mad at this woman. I'm so pissed. I hate her.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, you don't hate her, don't even put

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>your energy towards that. And I gave her the exercise

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<v Speaker 1>that I have been doing. It's been like nine or

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<v Speaker 1>ten days since I've been doing it, and it's so

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<v Speaker 1>easy to wake up and just write all down, the

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<v Speaker 1>write down all the things that you're grateful for. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be your dogs, it could be your bed, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be your job, it could be the weather, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be someone you know, your mother's health, all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and you can change your vibe. And I

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>think by having a higher vibration, which is a definite

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>scientific thing. It's not woo woo talk, it's true, like

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<v Speaker 1>are you a positive or you a negative? Everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>a negative. And I'm sure I'm not saying that you

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<v Speaker 1>are clean up. But I think that would be a

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>great exercise for you to do. You do it for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one days and you will feel it immediately. I

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>promise you. I love that. Well. Our next color is

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan and um just as what I do, my wife

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.959
<v Speaker 1>has always going to Disneyland. I hope not, because this

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>one's about a breakup. So, okay, can you imagine if

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>he broke up with you? On my podcast, God talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a gratitude. So he's twenty three years old, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Chelsea, he's gay, Right, he's gay. He is gay. Indeed,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>we don't have straight man call in, got it? We

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have a block. Maybe that's why he's leaving you. I'm

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>currently in a long term relationship and desperate to get out.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend and I have been together for four years,

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<v Speaker 1>and last year I decided it was time to move

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<v Speaker 1>in together. I had just graduated college and he was

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<v Speaker 1>planning on transferring to a school in the big city.

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<v Speaker 1>Things were going great for a while. I landed my

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>dream job and love life in the city. The issue is,

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<v Speaker 1>I've realized we're each in very different places in our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that we're still compatible As a result.

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<v Speaker 1>My entire life, I've been told that I was very

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>mature for my age, and I could feel this was

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<v Speaker 1>true for myself. I feel that I'm at a threshold

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<v Speaker 1>of an exciting new chapter in life. The transition into

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<v Speaker 1>adulthood is when I've waited my entire life for and

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time ever, I feel as if I

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>have all my ducks in a row. My boyfriend, however,

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be feeling the opposite. As twenty something in college,

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<v Speaker 1>he exhibits all of the behavior as one would expect,

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and I don't blame him for any of this. I

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>want him to do all the fun things that you're

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do at that time, but I can't help

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>but feel as though we're holding each other back. I've

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>essentially made up my mind about leaving him, but there

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>are two major issues. The first is that he is

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>completely financially dependent on me. When we moved to the city,

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I was the one with the big boy job, so

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it was clear that I would be the one paying

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>for our new lives. He lives with me here and

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>if we were to break up, he wouldn't have anywhere

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to go. The other issue is that I know he's

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>still head over heels in love with me, and if

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I were to end things, I know it would destroy him,

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that I have the heart to

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>do it. I have so much love and respect for him,

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>but just feel that we're operating in different phases of life.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>In the recent episodes of the podcast, I've listened to

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you talk so much about showing up for yourself, and

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I think in order to show up for myself, I

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>need to exit this relationship. I just don't know how.

0:33:54.800 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for your help. Ryan, Hi, Ryan, Hi, Hi Hi.

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>This is our special guest Otsco. Nice to meet you. Wow,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 1>just like so heartfelt and honest, honest words. I'm glad

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you're so self aware to note that you need to

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>exit though. Thank you. Yeah. In the Chelsea's episode with

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Ross Matthews, she said it's undignified to pretend that things

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>are okay when they're not. And I've never heard somebody

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>phrase it like that, and it is so undignified. And

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't consider myself an undignified person, which has brought

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>me to this decision. The thing is, I made the decision,

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and now I just don't know how to execute it. Okay,

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>So how long have you guys lived together? Only a

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of months? About six months? Okay, Well that's great

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>news because it hasn't been like, you know, years, So

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>that's to unravel the relationship. I know you've been dating

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>for longer than six months, but you've been living together

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>for six months, right, correct? And does he work? Yes,

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he does, and he pays a fraction of the rent, but,

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>as I said in the letter, is completely financially dependent

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on me. Okay, well, that's also not your problem, you

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. You can unravel this relationship in

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a nice, dignified way by just setting up a boundary like, Okay, listen,

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I know this is hard. I mean, obviously you're gonna

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>have to break up with him, you know that already.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>So however you want to manage that. The financial aspect

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and the codependent aspect is something that you can just

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>show grace in. You know, you can say, hey, I'm

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you. I'm gonna give you three more months.

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you start saving your money so you don't

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>have to pay me rent? I want to you know

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna live alone anyway, right, you can afford to

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>pay your rent for yourself, correct, Right, and give him

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>three months or whatever time frame feels right to you.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't let it go though, six more months. That's really unhealthy. Yeah.

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>That one other caveat that I forgot to mention in

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the letter is he's about to go on this giant

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>vacation for the holidays to Germany, And I don't know

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>if I should do it before that and potentially ruin

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>his big trip, or wait until after er and just

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>prolong this pretending that's tricky, that is hard. I I

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>my instinct would say to wait until he gets back.

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what do you girls think about that?

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>How long is he in Germany for? He's gonna go

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of weeks. He'll leave around the nineteenth

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of December, and he'll get back around New Year's Okay,

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>so that's still like about five six weeks away before

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he leaves. I think if you have a month before

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>he goes, If you have that much time before he goes,

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you should because that could be an opportunity

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>for him to actually grow a little bit and be

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>out and about in the world, knowing that his relationship

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>isn't there when he gets back. It's not him going

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>on the assumption that he's coming back to you. If

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you have that amount of time, I would say, definitely

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>do it before. Do it as soon as possible, and

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you know that you want to do this before he

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>goes on that trip, so you know he's going to

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>have some time to think about things, and you definitely

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want to ruin anything, but you just can't be

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this dishonest with each other at this point. You're being

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>sawnest with yourself and him. Yeah, yeah, agreed. I think

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't do it like the week before he leaves,

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like do it, do it this week, so he's got

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a month to adjust and then I'll have a few

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks where you can go like have fun. But you

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 1>also don't have to be playing the game of like

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>miss you sweetie on the phone and you know that

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Yeah, And has he left the country

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like this before on a trip like this? No? Not really. Yeah,

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think giving him the space to acclimate to

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the idea before he goes away. I think major things

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>happen when people go on their first trips overseas, you

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's a major wake up call

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's a major growth spurt. So I think the timing,

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>if you can do it sooner than later, give him

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 1>some you know, room to like, you know, you don't

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>want him to cancel the trip, obviously, and if you

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>did it right before, there's a chance he could do that.

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But you want to give him some space to think

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>about it, and some space when he's away from you,

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>when there's distance ince time, that's the best time to

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>contemplate and reflect on things. And by the time he

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>comes back, you know what I mean, you're almost kind

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>of like if you say, from now, I'll get of

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you two months or three months, don't pay rent to

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>me anymore. I want you to start saving your money.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pay the rent whatever is comfortable for

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you financially. Obviously, don't bend over backwards because he's not

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>your responsibility. You can be generous, but you don't have

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to be his you know, sugar Daddy, that's just not

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>necessary for anyone when you're breaking up. That's just the

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>way it goes. And just remember people break up all

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the time, like people get heartbroken a lot. It's you're

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>not the first person to break his heart. And I

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>know that would be difficult for you, But what will

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>be more difficult is living like a lie. Yeah, I agree,

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think you're definitely right. I think that giving

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>him some time to go on this trip and heal himself,

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I think is the better is the better option. And

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like I talked to my best friend about this, and

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>she had said that I had like involuntarily taken on

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>this sort of caretaker role, not even in the There

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>is the financial aspect, but there's also, like I said,

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing for me is the emotional aspect that

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't really prepared for before all of this.

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think you're definitely right, and I think I

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>need to do it sooner around than later. And these

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>are also really honest conversations that you can have. While

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.240
<v Speaker 1>they may seem challenging, you're going to give him tools

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for his movement forward by being honest with him that

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it's too much for it's too much of an emotional

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 1>burden for you, and and that you know you didn't

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>expect this, and and and your feelings have changed so

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that when he goes into his next relationship, he has

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a different dynamic instead of him repeating the same patterns.

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, he may do that anyway, but at least

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're truthful with somebody as hurtful as it, maybe

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>there's always a softer way to say everything. And if

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you're truthful with somebody, then they can really take that

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>information and do something different in their next relationship. Yeah,

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. Do you think there's a way to

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>offer that, like financial support for a moment of like

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you can live here for a couple more months, you can,

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll pay you don't have to pay me rent. That

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't come off as condescending. It sounds like you have

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect and love for this person, but

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it is not working out anymore. So I would

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>just say, you know, I want to be there for

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you as this transition happens, and you know we'll continue

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:11.919
<v Speaker 1>to have the situation where I'm paying for the rent

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>for the next however much time. You think that he

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>needs to get on his feet, but like, let's aim

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>for this date for you to be finding somewhere else

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>to be. And I don't think you offering to pay

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the rent is condescending, you know, like it's not like

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you I mean, only if you said in a really

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>condescending way. The act of it is very generous and

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it's sweet, and you love him, you know as a person,

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you're just not in love with him anymore, and it's

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>not an arguable thing. You know, giving him plenty of

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>time before his trip is generous, giving him plenty of leeway,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and when he moves out is also generous. Then you

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 1>can feel good about this down the road. I mean

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>he's going to have a whole roller coaster of emotions

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>about this, definitely. Yeah, I agree. That was my biggest

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>fear coming into this is that you guys would say,

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just have to do it. But I

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>think you know when that's I think you just know

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that that that's what's right. If that's what's you know, okay,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll be the devil's advocate. You how can you stay

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 1>with him? No, it's the loving thing I think to

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>to leave before it turns into resentment and then it's

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be worse for eat both of you. Yeah, absolutely,

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree. And there's also a dynamic that can start

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>when someone doesn't leave when they know they're ready to leave,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>which is that you're wasting his time to go and

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>find out what's next for him, Meet somebody else, make

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>out with a German on his trip, you know, whatever,

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>whatever it might be. Don't say that to him. Don't

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>tell him to make out with a German on his trip.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Nobody likes that when they're being broken up with, go

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>find somebody in Germany. Totally let it be his idea. Yeah,

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree, and just act with dignity like that

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>sentence struck you remember that, be dignified, you know, to

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>be dignified with your generosity, Be dignified with your attention

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that he needs while you're breaking up. But don't sell yourself.

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't say Okay, fine, I'll stay in the relationship because

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you're so upset. Being dignified means like you have to

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>give people bad news. Absolutely, and that's why I mean

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that was part of my decision to write into this podcast.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I think you being so candid about all of this

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>has helped me be a more candid and honest person.

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And the candid, honest person that listens to Dear Chelsea

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>would be honest in this relationship, say that it's time

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>for things to end, and doing it, like you said,

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in a dignified way. Yeah, definitely. So you put on

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that seatbelt, turn that car on, and go straight to

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 1>talk to him right now now. I'm just kidding, honestly,

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>might just do that? Okay, Well, great, keep us posted.

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Will you like check in with us in a few

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>weeks and let us know what happened. I will thank you, Okay,

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much? Ryan, call us back when ots goes

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>not here. Okay, I'm bad at this. I'm bad at this.

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You are good, though you. There's so much love for

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>him there and you could see it, and that's why

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>this is the decision you're making. Thank you. I appreciate

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that guy. Thanks for your help. Okay, bye Ryan, Ryan, Bye, bye,

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>am I fired. Can you imagine if that was Ryan

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>wearing a disguise and he was really talking about you,

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine that's a that's our round four, that's

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>our suv reason right now. He shows up to the studio,

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, so I bought you to have ticket

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to go to Germany. He's like, I know that one

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>if you knew this, but you're going to Germany. Look

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of men out there in Germany. You

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>can make out with the German. Catherine said, so well.

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Our next collar is Anna. The subject line is Shame,

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Regret and dental bills. Dear Chelsea, I'm a thirty four

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>year old woman who's fought hard for the life I

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>lived today. As a young teen, living in a trauma

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>filled household, I developed an eating disorder that followed me

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>through many eras of my life. At one point in

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>my twenty is I was hospitalized multiple times for major

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>dehydration and electrolyte imbalance due to bolimia. After a final

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>near death experience, I finally decided that recovery was my

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>only option. Since then, a lot has happened, a divorce,

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>graduate school, major career changes, lots of self discovery. Now

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm healthy, happy, and proud of the person I am today.

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a job that allows me to be creative

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>while helping others, a wonderful partner of four years, a

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 1>dog i'm obsessed with, and a life of adventures big

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and small. For the last several years, I've worked primarily

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>low paying jobs in education and the nonprofit space. While

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't make much, I've worked hard to save a

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>humble amount of money, and I'm in a better place

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>than ever financially. My new job has afforded me with

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>dental insurance, and this summer I went to a dentist

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in a couple of years, since

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have dental insurance prior to that. But because

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of my years of bolimia, my teeth are very damaged.

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.439
<v Speaker 1>After a thorough exam with my new dentist, I learned

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that dental work I had done years ago needed to

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>be replaced a SAP to avoid losing multiple teeth. The

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>total cost of the essential procedures is well over ten

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. There are also additional things that would be

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>really good for me to have done to avoid problems

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>down the line, but those total and additional eighteen thousand dollars.

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 1>My dental insurance will only pay for a thousand dollars

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>worth of work annually, so the rest of that tab

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>is on me. When my dentist went over this information

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>with me, I couldn't help but crumble into tears. The overwhelm,

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the shame, and hopelessness took over. My dentist was lovely

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and kind and explained how we could break the treatment

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>into chunks to lessen the financial blow. Still, I currently

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>work for a nonprofit making forty dollars a year, and

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I have two side hustles that pull in about five

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year. I have student debts, rent a

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>car payment, and I still managed to put a little

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>into savings every month, but it would take me years

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to pay this off. I've looked into personal medical dental loans,

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>but the interest rates on those are astronomical, so that

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 1>option is off the table. I've booked the first set

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of procedures with my dentist totally, and I'll be using

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>that savings money to pay for that. But I know

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I need a plan for how to get the rest

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 1>of the care I need. Moreover, this experience has thrust

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>me into a familiar spiral of shame, self disgust, and sadness,

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>similar to what I dealt with early in my recovery

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>from trying to heal from health issues resulting from my

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>eating disorder. I worked so hard to overcome those issues

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>while also trying to heal from the trauma that caused

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>by eating disorder. I know that I need to think creatively,

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>ask for help, maybe start a Go fund me campaign,

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 1>but the shame and feelings of self disgusted have me

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>frozen in that regard. How can I find a creative

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>solution to this problem, which at its heart is just

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a financial issue, but feels so much bigger than that.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 1>How can I view myself with kindness despite the shame

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and regret I feel overharming myself so many years ago.

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I know your ingenuity and positivity can illuminate resolutions I

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>may not be able to see right now. Thank you, Anna, Hianna, Yanna. Hi,

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>how are y'all? This is Otsko Okotska. Hi, nice to meet.

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>She's our special guest. She's a very funny comedian who

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>also had an eating disorder at one point. I've also

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>had an eating disorder at one point, so I mean

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>most women have, Katherine, did you ever have an eating disorder? Oh? Yeah,

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean eating disorders take a lot of different forms,

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>but basically, as soon as I learned about calories growing up,

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I immediately developed an eating disorder. So yeah, so sorry

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.919
<v Speaker 1>that you feel such shame. I mean that's the first

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 1>thing that you have to flip around. You know, you're

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>healed now, you're better, and like that's something that's very positive.

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And to like sit there and and rate yourself and

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>self immolate about something that's in the past is pointless.

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>That's just pointless. So you can either start by like

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>writing down daily affirmations for yourself. Meditation I think is

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a good way to start putting some more positivity back

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>into you from you. The financial aspect of this, I'm

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>really not worried about this. You can do is segmented,

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna do your first treatment. Yeah, you could

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>start a go fund me or you could get do

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you have time to get a waitressing job for a

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>short period of time that you work like two shifts

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a week? Is that a possibility? I have three part

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>time side hustles right now, So I'm definitely doing doing

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.879
<v Speaker 1>that kind of a thing. The financial aspect of it

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is obviously kind of the simpler thing in a lot

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>of ways, right that it is just money. There's a

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a time crunch with a couple of

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the procedures because they are like, we need to do

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>this yesterday, we need to do this last year. Basically

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I did just get the first set of things done.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Actually had a crown put on for one of the

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>procedures like two hours ago, so I just left. It's

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a little while ago, right, and so you know, the

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>plan is of right now is to do it in segments.

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you were saying, the shame thing is something that

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I've had times where I'm like, I feel good, I

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>feel confident in the person I am. I feel like

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the people who love me understand my story and accept me,

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and then things like this will happen where you're like,

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.760
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I'm such a funk up, like nobody

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>get nobody's gonna get this, everyone's gonna judge me, and

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>then and then it's just such a process to dig

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>out from that, for sure. Yeah, but a real funk

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>up would never be we're sitting where you are. That's

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>not a funk up by the nature very nature of

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you addressing the issue and having recovered from your eating disorder.

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>You've recovered from your eating disorder. So you're not a

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 1>funk up. You're not. You're the opposite. You're somebody who's

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:30.879
<v Speaker 1>going and handling a situation. Do you know how many

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>people would never want to deal with the truth of

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>what they have to do and get the work done

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to they're so scared of the cost,

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or they're scared of what the doctor's gonna or the

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>dentist is gonna tell them. You've been brave. You are brave,

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're recovered. You are on your way. This is

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>all positive and you're there's no reason to make it negative.

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So you need to have like some deep conversations with yourself,

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and you need to start meditating, and you need to

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>start writing daily affirmations down every single morning. When you

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>wake up going, I am brave, I am strong, I

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 1>am handling my life independently. All of these amazing things

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.959
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing all by yourself, you have three side

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>hustles going. That's fucking badass too. Yeah, it's it's so

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>positive to be wanting to take care of something. You know.

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 1>My husband just had ten dental procedures done because he

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 1>was always afraid of it. He grew up with very

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 1>little money and he was just always insecure about his teeth.

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And he was also ashamed that, like, oh god, I

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 1>have so many cavities and these root canals that I

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>never got to How could I get it to this point?

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.919
<v Speaker 1>You know? But it's the positive of like, no, okay,

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to find a pathway forward to fixing it.

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Some of them were emergency, like we gotta do it today,

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and then the financials we figured out. But the shame

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>of it is like all of us are really just

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 1>trying our best, you know, like my mom, to be honest,

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just to go out there with it. My mom hasn't

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>showered in twenty years because of mental health issues, and

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>she has O c D. She's scared of soap and stuff,

0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>so talk to people who are supportive about it, because

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I talk to my mom, I'm never

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>shaming her. It's not coming from a place of like reprimanding,

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:08.240
<v Speaker 1>how could you let this come this far? Whatever? Because

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.720
<v Speaker 1>her to nails are really long, there's infections and stuff,

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's really just about being like so proud, like

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>so being so proud that you were like, I'm gonna

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>start handling it, you know, because that's really a big

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>first step. Honestly, it is a big first step. And

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you should find a support group online,

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like for people who are recovering. That's going to be free.

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>There's tons of support groups for people who have eating

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>disorders and are recovering from that. And I guarantee you're

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna find so many people that are in the same

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>position that are going to help build you up and

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>may also have ideas of how you can actually afford

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:43.879
<v Speaker 1>all of these treatments. You know, you're not the only

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>person that this is happening to, so remember that you're

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.359
<v Speaker 1>not alone. And I think that would actually be really

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>helpful to you because your shame spiral is just because

0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't have anybody else who's going through the same

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>thing sitting around you going, oh god, I did that.

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I did that, you know, and and that would be

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 1>a good up for you to take as well. I

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna be fine with paying this off in

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a slower way. I think that's totally reasonable, and you're

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna feel so empowered as soon as you start. I'm

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 1>sure you already feel a little bit of that after

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.879
<v Speaker 1>going to the dentist, you know, getting your first crown

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>put on. Yeah, the dentist that I've been seeing too

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 1>is just so caring and thorough that I also just

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>feel really happy and confident that I'm making the right investment.

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not kind of going to be another thing that's

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>an issue in a few years, so so that helps also.

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you guys are helping me kind of see

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>too that I think that I have focused on the

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>financial aspect of it, and that's really just been a

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a cover for this deeper feeling of

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>overwhelm and shame. I years ago I had tried to

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of do the support group thing and just never

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>invested in it. But one thing I do know about myself,

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>which is probably evident from having all these side hustles

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, is that if I set an

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.479
<v Speaker 1>intention to really do something, I will do it. That's

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>why I'm in recovery. And so, yeah, you took the

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>step to recover from this, you're capable of everything that

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>comes after. That was the hardest part. And I think

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing now seeing that as an extension of

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the self care that you've already done. You have taken

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the steps to you know, go to therapy, go to recovery,

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>get yourself to the point where you no longer are

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 1>in an active state of self harm. You're in a

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:30.240
<v Speaker 1>state of healing, and this is just the next step

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>in your healing journey. But the other thing that I

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>loved in your in your email was about asking for help.

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Anybody who hears this story is not going to feel like, man,

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>she did that to herself. That's not what's going through

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>anybody's mind. And so you know, you never know who

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>in your life, and maybe you won't know it might

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>be anonymous. If you do set up a go fund me,

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't know who is going to step up and

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, donate to the cause or help you out

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>with that. But the first step there is is not

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>being alone in this and not keeping it hidden, which

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:09.959
<v Speaker 1>is probably the scariest part. Right. Yeah. I really only

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>talked to my two very closest friends who also have

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>an eating disorder history, and my partner in detail about this,

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and there have all been so wonderful and supportive. But yeah,

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe talking more openly to trusted people

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.319
<v Speaker 1>would would be healing in its own way. You live

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in the States, right, yeah. Yeah, for a system that

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>works so hard to keep us down, you're crushing it.

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Like for a system where every American girl, the system

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is made so that we're all supposed to get eating disorders.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that average Americans supposed to get a stroke

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 1>at a heart, heart disease, maybe diabetes to these are

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.479
<v Speaker 1>things we're actually supposed to have get as America's you're

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>crushing it. May an animals all messed up from the

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>throwing up that I used to do too, and like

0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and so when you set up something like you know,

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll go fund me. Other Americans will understand because it's

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a system that keeps us down, and so we you know,

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 1>if anyone will understand, it's fellow people who have gone

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.439
<v Speaker 1>through it, you know. And yeah, yeah, and I would

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 1>think I would also offer up to say, like, stop

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>treating it as some big dark secret. You know, have

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a little levity about it. We all have had eating

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>every four out of four of the women that are

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 1>talking right now have had an eating disorder. Like it's

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it's better to be like, oh god, yeah I was.

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I was just you know, a product of my culture.

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I was a product of society. Now I've taken my

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>own life into my own hands and I'm driving the

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>wheel and stead of letting somebody else drive the wheel

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>for me, that's empowering. That is powerful. You're a powerful

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I can tell that by looking at you. You know,

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:38.880
<v Speaker 1>your teeth are just a reminder and you're never going

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to go back there. And now you are fixing the situation.

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And it might take a little bit longer than you

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>would ideally like, but the actual pivot points, like if

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a graph or a chart of where

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 1>you are in your life, you're headed in the absolute

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 1>right direction. Yeah, thank you well, And I think that

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.759
<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting like I'm thirty four, I'll be thirty

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 1>five and a couple of months, and when I was

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like seven was kind of when I was really newly

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 1>in recovery, and I really embraced being very open about

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it and talking to it, almost to the point that

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>it was like my whole identity, which is healing in

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 1>its own way, like and I did connect with a

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, but I also felt like, probably around thirty,

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I need to do some investing

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in like I don't want to just be like the

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>recovered girl. I wanted to invest in the woman version

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>of myself and that identity, and I have been doing that,

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and now I do need to do a little bit

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of this reconciliation in some way of Okay, you're a

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>woman who's grown in all these different ways, and you're

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 1>still a person in recovery, and there's still stuff that's

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>going to come up, and some of it might be

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.760
<v Speaker 1>health problems, and so it's kind of this reintegration again,

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>which will continue through through all of life. Absolutely. And

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing that I can totally relate to about

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<v Speaker 1>what you said. I went to therapy and I made

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so many over corrections, Like I became so self aware

0:56:58.120 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that I was like, Okay, maybe you shouldn't talk at all,

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 1>because you talk too much, you insert yourself too much,

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you have too many opinions. You're too you tell everybody

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 1>too much of the truth, and I overcorrected, And there

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is a period of overcorrection that we do when we're

0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>recovering from something, and then we have to kind of

0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>balance it out and integrate what we've learned with the

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 1>new person that we've become. So it's like, that's totally

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>normal what you're describing. Also, like, yeah, that was became

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of your identity. Therapy became my identity for a

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:27.880
<v Speaker 1>period of time, you know, And now I get to

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to all these people that call in and help them.

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's also something that would really help you helping

0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>other people that have survived eating disorders and are in recovery.

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Instead of looking at it like you're getting the counseling,

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you get a lot of counseling out of

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 1>counseling others. Yeah. Yeah, And another resource we've talked about

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit on this show that maybe a possibility

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>for you as Pandemic of Love. They help people out

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>with different situations that they run into, and they pair

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>donors with somebody who has a financial issue in order

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to help get that solved. So I would say definitely

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 1>reach out to them see if they can help with

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>some of the financials. Yeah, thank you, but you're gonna

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>be fine. Everything's going to be great. I appreciate you

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>all so much this. You really have helped me kind

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of see things from a different perspective. And it's simple

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and complicated, but that's kind of everything, right Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 1>So proud of you taking the steps. Thank you. Yeah,

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, well follow up with us. Let let us

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>know how everything goes, okay, Anna, absolutely, Yeah, thank you

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 1>guys so much. Chelsea. I love you. This is so exciting.

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been breathing this whole time to be calm, but

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you're incredible. I'm excited for you. Thanks, take care, Chelsea.

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I did have one idea, so you know, I know

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Anna has talked about setting up a go fund me.

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 1>What if we could have listeners of the show head

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>over to her go fund me. I mean, we can

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>put the name in right here and have people head

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>over and help with some of those even if they

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 1>have five bucks. Yeah. I think that's a great idea.

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Anyone who wants to help somebody who's recovering from an

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>eating disorder, anyone who heard this and who wants to

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 1>help another person. Yeah, I think that's a great idea, Katherine. Okay, great.

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to donate to Anna's go fund me,

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>take a look at the episode description, it'll be right

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>there in the show notes. Good thinking. Well, let's head

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to a quick break and we'll be right back to

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 1>wrap up with Osco and Chelsea. And we're back. Hi hi, hi. Oh.

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>That was so deep and I learned so much and yeah,

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I got so emotional, and wow, what a day. That

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>was uplifting. Even though those were sad things to be

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about, they're all uplifting because it's like seeing somebody

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:49.080
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of something is really empowering. And

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are plenty of people that are listening

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to this who are experiencing disorders at eating disorders at

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>this moment, and plenty of people that are on the

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>other side of eating disorders. So feel free to right

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<v Speaker 1>in or call in about any of this stuff, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Because everybody just needs somebody to just kind of be

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:09.439
<v Speaker 1>there for them, and we understand that. And there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about hearing someone else's story, you know, while that's not

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:17.439
<v Speaker 1>exactly my story, I found it so moving and it's

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to hear about her healing journey and it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's tough steps in the middle of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that you know, one of you, you're

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<v Speaker 1>more well traveled than I am, would know something about

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<v Speaker 1>like Mexico. But I don't want to be like because

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you could get dental work in Mexico, don't people,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a good idea. Okay, dental work

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico. This is how I would do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still have my tag on on my shirt. And

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<v Speaker 1>my housekeeper went to Mexico for dental work and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a ship show. Her teeth were not that every

1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:50.479
<v Speaker 1>dentist in Mexico is bad, but wherever she was going,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just too quick. We had to redirect her

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<v Speaker 1>to U. Yeah, our doctor here. But yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't recommend that. I thought, if you could get dental

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<v Speaker 1>work done in the United States, that's a used to

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<v Speaker 1>do it good. We're good for something and it's good

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<v Speaker 1>done to work. See even though it's cash. Wasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>so good that I didn't bring it up? Though? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want a little prop here for not

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<v Speaker 1>not being like Mexico. To you hold your tongue because

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally yeah. I thought about it. Well, Otsco, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have any advice that you'd like to ask from Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I feel like again like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you've already given me so much with you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out the title to my special, which is called

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<v Speaker 1>The Intruder. It's called the Intruder because there was another option,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, intruder, go with your gut instinct.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's such a great piece of advice. Intruder, which

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<v Speaker 1>airs December ten on HBO. You guys, you're gonna fucking

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<v Speaker 1>love this woman. She's so funny. You are going to

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<v Speaker 1>love this special. I cannot wait to see it. Thank you, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>and December go check out Yo Girl, Chelsea h Okotska

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix on Netflix. That's right double duty. Jesse's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how benevolent can I be to the one person? Over

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<v Speaker 1>and over? She almost sent a person to Mexico and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go. We should give Mike Berbiglia show a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out because we're about to go see that together.

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<v Speaker 1>She and I are going to go see that in

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<v Speaker 1>New York together, and I'm going to come to your

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<v Speaker 1>show on Tuesday. What's the name The Old Man, The

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<v Speaker 1>Old Man and the Pool. The Old Man and the

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<v Speaker 1>Pool is Mike Berbiglia show which had just launched on

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway and it's getting rave reviews, and if you get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to see it, you should definitely go. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be there and Chelsea will probably have better

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<v Speaker 1>seas than I will, but we will both see the

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<v Speaker 1>same show. Fabulous. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Always

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<v Speaker 1>check out Osco's new special The Intruder on HBO, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like to donate to Anna's dental work, take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the episode description. A link to her

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<v Speaker 1>go fund me will be right are in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm winding up my stand up tour. Vaccinated and

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<v Speaker 1>Horning is coming to a screeching halt at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. I have my last dates and these

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<v Speaker 1>are the last opportunities. You have to also buy merch

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<v Speaker 1>from the website Chelsea Handler dot com. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>now for women only. Our t shirts for men and

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<v Speaker 1>your family that say I'm sorry because they should be.

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<v Speaker 1>I only have a few dates left Baltimore, Maryland, and

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<v Speaker 1>then my very last date is December sixte in Reading, Pennsylvania.

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