WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Is Amari The Missing Piece? 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.920 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:16.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.160 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:31.360 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola. Brian brought us, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:37.160 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones, and it's our first installment 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.080 of Talking Cowboys for this week. We had a very 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:47.040 nice installment of Hanging with the Talking Cowboys break yesterday 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.800 as Brian brought us and myself Bill Jones were joined 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:56.360 by Kurt Daniels and Nate Newton to discuss Cowboys Redskins. Brian, 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.320 anything happened in the meantime since yesterday? Not that I 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.240 know of? Yeah, and Micky when then Rob went to 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.120 the museum, right, that's right, y'all got back from Washington. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.440 Very safe flight he did. Yeah, it was great. Found 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.959 out some breaking news about halfway through, did you How 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.480 did you guys find out? Was Mickey holding the phone 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.800 or the radio up at thirty eight thousand feet? Vicky 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.720 was on Wi Fi on the Internet and saw breaking news. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.080 So who who reported it? Internet? On the plane? What 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.800 that's new? That's k Garrison. We usually don't have internet 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.000 on the plane. So that's nice. The ship, well, things 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.800 have moved up here greatly. So who stood up and 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.000 made the announcement to the plane the Cowboys flying back 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.200 from Washington, DC, that a trade had been made. It 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.800 took a little hang on, It took a little It 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.399 took a little doing because really funny, I want to 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.440 hear it him Mickey voice, Real funny guy here, I 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.360 want to hear I want to hear it in Mickey 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.560 voice when he when he saw no, I don't know 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.000 if it's up now. We had started, we had started 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.360 hearing stuff before I saw a break on the internet. Yeah, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.520 all right. Was a lot of people were asleep because 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.800 it was obviously they played a game the night before 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.600 early morning for that museum trip, which is great. Uh huh. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.600 So yeah, it took a little doing to get that thing. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.280 Mickey didn't stuck in the gallus. You guys act like 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.160 the flight attendant up front, Susan goes attention, attention, please. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.920 The Dallas Cowboys have just traded for Amari Cooper, and 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.200 one of you poor guys on his flight is not 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.960 gonna have a job tomorrow. And he found out right 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.480 when he got off the flight yeah. Actually, all right, 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.959 so the trade has been made. Amari Cooper is yeah, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.520 headed to Dallas to become a Dallas Cowboy, and the 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.959 Cowboys give up their first round draft pick in two 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:43.320 thousand nineteen. And so we want to start going around 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.359 the horn. Your first reaction when you heard the news, 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.760 let's go to Brian. Brian, you know, did all this matter? 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.080 In fact, we should point out Brian in the last 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.799 twenty four hours has now gone back and looked at 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:02.160 every single Lamari Cooper place. He was Teddy Bridgewaters primary 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.320 receiver at Northwestern High School in Miami. You deserve the 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.000 first word with that one. I'll tell you what though, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.000 thank you for the first word. The thing that I 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:13.040 was in, I you know, you look at my first 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:18.400 thought was good, good this, you know, you know, I've 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.760 just got to the point now where I'm thinking, Okay, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.760 the is this wide receiver by committee? You have one 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.040 guy that's really really playing well, you have one guy 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.240 that's trying to emerge. Okay, let's go try and find 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.160 a way to help this quarterback. Let's go try and 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.560 find a way to evaluate him better before you have 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.680 to give up twenty million dollars a year to see 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.760 if he can play or not. You know, why don't 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.280 you give him some weapons. Why don't you allow him 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.440 maybe to make a throw or two where it's a 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.000 contested ball and HiT's gonna be caught, or there's gonna 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.040 be a big play, or there's gonna be a big 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.920 run after the catch. You know, go out and try 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.600 and make a difference here. And I think that to 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.760 me when you look at your football team and you say, okay, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.360 where are we deficient? Mickey's been very adamant about the 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.240 offensive that's been a big problem. But you look at 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.640 this receiving corp. It has not been good enough. And 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.240 so when you sit down and you evaluate it and 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.119 you say, what's the best way that we can help 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.680 this receiving corps right now? It is to add a 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.440 player that is a dynamic player, like a Marii Cooper. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.359 That is that now. If it works out, great, you 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.160 have the evaluation you have a great player in a 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.800 Mariy Cooper. If it doesn't work out, it's probably because 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.000 of a the offensive line didn't protect well enough, be 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.039 your quarterback can't make throws. You're going to figure this 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.040 out real fast. Now, it's not about Okay, blame Dak 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.560 or blame the lack of talent on the outside at 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.280 wide receiver. This is that you went out and got 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.279 a legitimate football player. You had to pay a premium 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.719 price to do it. He's a young player. He will 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.839 come in here and he will be a difference, a 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.320 different player than what you have, and that's exactly what 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:57.240 this offense needs. Rob Phillips, two things for me, if 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.760 you want to argue that it's a good trade and 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.360 see both sides of it. He's twenty four years old 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.280 compared to the guys that are coming out of the 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:06.840 draft next year, and you guys are gonna have a 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.560 draft show later this week players right now, compared to 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.440 the receivers that top receivers that will be available, he's 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.800 not much older. And he's got four years in the league. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.200 This is his fourth year. They think he's on the 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.640 up rise. So you're not trading for a thirty something 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.560 wide receiver to help. You're still trading for a young guy, yes, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.360 and you have him at least for a year and 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.599 a half. The other thing is I appreciate this front 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.680 office saying they haven't said it, but actions speak louder 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.560 than words. This committee hasn't worked. Its wide receiver committee 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.880 has not worked. Now they've spread the snaps around pretty evenly. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.919 So these guys aren't going to have major production, I 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.120 don't think. But again, one guy could have risen to 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.920 the top, and so far it's been Cole Beasley. The 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.320 three guys they've brought in Hearns, Thompson, Austin who's injured, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.760 thirty two catches, three hundred ninety one yards, three touchdowns. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.880 The next two leading receivers after Cole are you're running 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.040 back and you're tight end. They haven't gotten a lot 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:00.960 of production out of the wide receiver position. There's no 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.359 question about that. My question about this trade for as 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.120 much as you're giving up in a first round pick 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.640 that's high value, I mean that that is a premium 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.520 that's the lifeblood of your team, is your draft. I 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.240 just is he going to make a big enough difference 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.960 down the stretch, because particularly on the road for me, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.880 because you know, I think we all thought they'd play 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.200 more efficiently this past week in Washington. The matchups seem 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.000 better for them, and again they they haven't been able 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.760 to function well offensively. And I'm with Mickey, it starts 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.120 up front. There are other things besides the wide receivers 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.919 that need to be better and be more consistent for 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.560 this passing game to have success, and we haven't seen it. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.280 And we'll bring in one really talented wide receiver make 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.800 that much of a difference. We'll see Vicky Spagnola. I 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.520 like the talent acquisition. I wish they could have done 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.200 it for a second round pick, not to first round pick, 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.720 because there'll be a point next year when you're in 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.080 April and you're sitting there going, boy, I really need 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.920 to fix this and you're not going to be able 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.320 to fix it with the first round pick. But having 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.160 said that, I guess if you're gonna get something good, 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.520 you got to give up something good. And uh, they 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.280 at least took the step going forward, Uh, sort of 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.760 admitted that this committee thing is not working out the 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:20.040 way it needs to and if nothing else, this guy's 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.040 going to command the tension from posing defenses and no 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.800 longer are they going to be dropping safeties in the 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.960 box and saying, Zeke, you know what, you're not beating me, Zeke. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.720 The last two road games had thirty five carries for 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.680 eighty eight yards. That's not even three yards to carry. Yeah, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.560 he's better than that. Right. The offensive line struggles, but 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.560 not that bad. Defenses are saying, you're gonna have to 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.440 beat me throwing the ball. Well, now they've got a 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.680 second thought coming when this guy, I don't know what 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:57.960 number he's gonna have, number nineteen. Yeah, they're gonna look 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.400 out there, you know what, I better keep an eye 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.760 on number nineteen. Then, yeah, and so, and aren't you 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.240 glad that you ended up with a bigger need than 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.440 using that first round pick for a free safety, because 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.920 had you done that, you're not trading for this guy. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.640 I don't know a lot of people of initial reaction 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.480 is they think Joey Galloway. They think Roy Williams. Eighteen 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.880 years ago, the Cowboys, of course, gave up two number 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.800 ones for Joey Galloway, which was a twenty nine year 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.280 old Joey Gage mistake. Yes, ten years ago, they gave 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.679 up what essentially was a first and a third. They 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.680 also gave up a sixth and got back a seventh. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.679 But let's say a first and a third for Roy Williams, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.439 who was twenty seven years old, And now they're giving 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.839 up one number one for a twenty four year old 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.400 who just turned twenty four in June. In Amari Cooper, 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.720 I think that they had made up their mind after 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.760 watching seven games this year they were going to have 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.600 to use a first round draft pick on a wide 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.920 receiver up or they would have to sign one in 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.320 free agent, see exactly. And if they decide that, you know, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.200 we got a mid round first round draft pick based 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.680 on our early projections of the receivers coming out. Nobody's 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.640 gonna be better than this guy, I mean Calvin Ridley. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.440 And he's about Calvin Ridley's age. Hell yeah, how much? Yeah, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.680 Calvin Ridley was an older guy too in this draft, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.520 if I'm not mistaken. So there were some questions about that. Now, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.679 look on what you said about the previous trades. The 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.840 Roy Williams trade was a bad one and the bad 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.199 The bad part of it, though, was they paid him 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.800 all that money because they had to redo his contract 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.840 right away too. I don't know if he played a 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.960 game before they redid the deal and gave him that. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.000 It was part of it was part of the deal, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.760 the trade. Yeah, and I know you don't give up 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.760 two first round picks for one player, all right, we 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.960 were stupid, Mickey, But he got hurt the first game, 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.240 all right, and he only played what another year year 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.400 or two years years without a quarterback? Yeah, by the way, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.199 and then he left. They traded him to Tampa Bay 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.079 or do they cut him? I think they traded him 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.160 to Tampa Bay. And he had consecutive one thousand yard 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.520 receiving seasons. Yeah, so you know, you got this guy 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.880 for Troy Aikman, and then Troy Aikman is injured, he 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.439 gets injured, and then there's no Troy Aikman in two 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.760 thousand and one for Joey Galloway. By the way. On 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.800 Calvin Ridley, he turns twenty four in December, there you go, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.959 and Amari Cooper turned twenty four in June. Yeah, so 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.679 six months difference in age. Cooper's six months older than 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.679 Calvin Ridley. And you know what everybody's looking at next year? 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.160 Fourteen million. Yeah, And that's the other thing I wanted 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.160 to point out. The Raiders picked up his fifth year option, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.920 and so he is due thirteen point nine million dollars 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.720 next year. Okay, but they're only paying four hundred thousand 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.320 this year, so they're looking at it as a two 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.280 year fourteen point four million dollars deal. Yeah, So for 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.120 if it's a top flight wide receiver and he plays 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.120 like that, then it's a steal for two years. But 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.439 having spent a first round pick on him, they are 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.360 I would imagine they are looking at him as being 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.679 a long term cornerstone player for this team. Now he's 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.000 Garrett said that this morning. Basically better hope so, because 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.120 they use their first round picks on those cornerstone players. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.720 The difference being this is one that you're going to 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.920 spend a lot of money on salary wise, even after 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.000 the thirteen point nine million next year. But they need 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.800 that wide receiver. And now the whole question is going 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.160 to be is he the same receiver that everyone thought 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:39.920 he was when he was the fourth pick in the 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.080 draft four years ago and was a Pro bowler. I 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.920 think this is going to be a great move for him. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.800 I really do. And again I'm I'm I'm saying this 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.600 because I think he gets out of a situation in 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.240 Oakland that you know clearly that the head coach didn't 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.560 want him there. Okay, he comes to an organization here. Now, yes, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.360 you have some things at quarterback, you have some issues 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.520 at quarterback, but he's going to have every opportunity to 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.960 be the featured guy. And the one thing he's proven 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.440 out is when he's been able to be the featured guy, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.320 he's been able to have some success. So I think 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.920 the talent is still there. I think the ability is 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.760 still there. I think the desire, you know. I mean, 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.520 there were some questions and one of my best friends, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.600 Michael Lombardi in the league, said, hey, there's some questions 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.520 about whether this guy really loves football. You could watch 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.520 the tape and watch him run the football and tell 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.000 that he likes to play football. You can get that 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.319 and some of the drops that he had, or him 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.160 trying to catch the football and get up the field 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.680 as fast as he can. Yeah, and there's a report 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.439 today about the Raiders and Derek Carr and a fractured 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.520 relationship in the locker room. I don't know if Derek 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.160 Carr has been the same guy the last couple has neither. So, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.720 you know, it's not just the wide receivers in terms 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.480 of trying to make plays and putting the same numbers 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.480 up the reference. But he had a thousand yards season 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.360 each of his first two seasons in the league. So 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.120 the thing that jumps out at me and I haven't 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.600 watched nearly as much as Brian has. For sure his 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.200 catch radius. He will go up and make tough catches. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.440 And we saw it again in the Washington game. Dak 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.079 is putting balls in play that can be caught and 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.240 they're not all caught, and they're catchable balls, and quarterbacks 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:16.160 need that. All quarterbacks need that. M Deshaun Watson got 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.640 it in an overtime at Houston from his top receiver. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.839 That's that's what they need. When these games that are 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.600 this close and one or two plays makes the difference. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.599 Maybe this this guy can be the differences. He's a 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.079 number one wide receiver. But what I saw is a 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.440 number one wider re saiver. And you think Jerry believes 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:35.440 he's a number one absolute absolutely. Jerry definition that he 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.800 gave last week of being a number one wide receiver 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.920 was there's basically a handful of guys he considers number 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.400 one wide receiver. Give a number one mentioned Hilio Jones, 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.240 DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, you give a first round pick, you 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.120 think of guy's the number one wide Yeah you're not. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.560 You're not messing around here, you know. And again I 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.400 applaud them because there's so many times that we sit 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.400 there and everybody out there says, oh, they don't do nothing, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.400 they don't do anything. Oh why how can they make 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.600 that trade? And we can't make that trade? And then 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.319 when you make the trade, when you're a little bold 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.400 on making the trade, then you're like, oh, I wouldn't 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.400 have given that. You know, I don't subscribe to that 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.800 at all. I talked to general manager friends last night. 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.040 They were like, going, you know, I wouldn't have given 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.360 it up. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, you know why 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.280 you wouldn't have given up Because you're afraid you're gonna 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.400 lose your job. That's why you don't do that. You know, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.560 everybody wants to. I applaud people that want to be 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.200 bold and try and do things. I really do. When 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.600 you see something as a problem and you try to 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.360 go fix it, you know, if it works, great, he 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.920 fixed it. If it doesn't work, then you figure it out. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.480 It's it's the quarterback, it's the receiver. It's now you 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.080 start figuring out why. You know, don't don't just sit 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.200 there on your hands and let this thing just continue 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.400 without a rudder, you know, go find a way to 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.600 try and make it better and I think they made 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.800 this football team better. They had to sacrifice something to 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.440 get a player that can help them make better. I 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.040 think it's funny the people that are critical. We're all 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.760 for paying whatever they wanted for Earl Thomas, and now 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.880 that you do this, that was me. I'm not critical 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.280 to get this guy. It's like, well, what are you doing? 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.360 You can't do that? Yeah, you know which would be 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.320 a better fixed the wide receiver or the free safety 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.480 from what we've seen, and I go back to it 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.920 could have been easy for the front office to just 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:25.240 not basically admit that their direction didn't work. You know, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.360 that's that's an admission of we tried something. From a 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:32.000 personnel standpoint, they parted ways with Dez Bryant. They haven't 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.800 found the production outside of Cole Beasley at the wide 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.080 receiver position around him, and they're trying to do something 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.840 about it. Mid season. They look at the standings and say, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:42.880 all right, we lost this close game, but we still 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.760 have four division games left. We're tied for second place. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.640 We gotta buy We got an extra week to bring 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.120 this guy in and get him up to speed. Let's go, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.160 let's go win this division. I mean, I absolutely credit 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.040 them for at least trying to do that. We'll find 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.600 out if if they gave up too much, but this 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.960 was probably the most glaring need on their roster right now. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.640 You find out, though, really about this quarterback you find 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.960 out about him is it is it the fact that 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.440 they made the decision for a committee hurting his development? 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.520 That is that, you know, That's what you're gonna find out, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.440 because if this guy, this guy has the ability to 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.600 get open, he has the ability to go make plays. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.080 If they can't get him going, and it's because of 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.880 the quarterback, then you've saved yourself a long term of 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.560 paying this guy one hundred million dollars or so. It's 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.840 gonna be worth it to give up that that draft 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.120 pick in the first round to figure out what this 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.880 quarterback really is. You know. One of the things I 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.800 forget that, Yeah, for sure, we talk about the reports 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.280 that he doesn't have the desire to play or whatever. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.320 One of the things that and I didn't know a 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.040 whole lot about him until just starting to research him 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.120 here in the last twenty four hours. He's not his 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.600 personality as such, He's not the type. He's not a 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.680 real outgoing type. He didn't love the cameras. He's kind 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.840 of a quiet guy, which I think he could mesh 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.400 very well with Dak Prescott, who has that leadership quality. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.240 I think Dak takes him under his arm a little bit. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.800 But the Cowboys have terrific knowledge about this player on 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.520 their own coaching staff here with Doug nuss Meyer having 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.640 done the offensive coordinator at Alabama, yes, when Amari Cooper 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.919 was there. Scott Lenahan is very close with Todd Downing, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.840 who was the offensive coordinator and before that the quarterbacks 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.679 coach with the Raiders, I'm sure, and he's now the 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.720 tight ends coach in Minnesota. I'm not saying that he 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.280 had consulted with Todd Downing, oh he did, but he 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.679 has heard the good things I'm sure that Downing has 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.080 said about Cooper over the last four years. And so 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.440 they in their relationship with the Alabama coaching staff absolutely 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.240 where they feel very good about what type of person 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.800 that Amari Cooper is. Might be refreshing that he's not 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.120 your normal wide receipt. Now that's right, that's true. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.600 So go do your job, all right. What do you 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.800 think was the tipping point on Jerry and Stephen and 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.840 the organization deciding, okay, we need to go ahead and 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.880 do this right now. On the heels of that game 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.080 in Washington on Sunday, thirty five carries for eighty eight yards. Oh, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.240 I mean, you look into deep in the fourth quarter 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.800 and they've got ten points once again on the road, 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.640 struggling to make things work, and they got a couple 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.640 of late drives going almost brought themselves back into that game. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.440 But again, it's a struggle in the passing game, particularly 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.000 on the road. And I'm the one who said last week, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.320 can you bring in another guy to add to this? 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.879 Is it gonna work? Maybe Michael Gallup just needs to 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.000 be more involved than he is, sort of getting more 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.040 involved and that's really encouraging, but clearly they felt like 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.840 it we needed more more if we're gonna go try 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.760 to win. Basically needs a little help out there too. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.800 And Michael Gallup is doing I think the best he 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.240 can and I'm all four keep throwing him the ball five, six, 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.639 seven times a game, because if he comes up with 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.840 four plays, you know, this kid's finding ways to get open. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.399 I mean he is. If he could just keep running 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.520 the routes the way he is and keep finishing the 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.760 way they'll get him the football. But I'm like I said, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.080 I you look at this and you have to say 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.159 enough enough. I'm getting tired of why and Thompson hit 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:02.840 the ball, hit between the one and the five on 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.560 his chest. You know, I'm getting tired of some of 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.080 the things that I'm seeing, you know, a third and 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.520 a third down play and Alan Herns drops the ball 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.200 which would have been a first down. I'm getting tired 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.399 of that. I need somebody to go out there and 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.840 make a play for me other than Cole Beasley. I'll 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.160 tell you another thing ahead, Robin Well and look Tabon. 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.399 Austin's part of this thinking too, because I don't know 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.040 when he's coming back. You know. They said wouldn't count 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.200 on it. They said no surgery at this point, you know, 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.520 but this could be a several week thing. Probably will be. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.119 And that's a guy that they haven't featured a lot. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.480 But in terms of speed and potential game breaking ability, 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.200 you don't have him, then that's another piece that you're 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.280 missing offensively. So they just keep wishing there. Well, yeah, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.679 keep I keep wishing out five to six weeks. And 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.359 that's the that's the meteor schedule. Trying to make a 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.720 run here, Cooper, Gallop Beasley, that better be the committee. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.760 There you go, He's right about that. You know again, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.800 we're gonna figure this out real fast. We're gonna figure 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.560 this out because it's gonna it's it's it's either gonna 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.639 work with this guy starts to make some plays and 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.240 helps this offense and they score more points, or it's 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.480 gonna go it's gonna go south, and then it's gonna 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.560 be Okay, what do we need to do now? Then 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.719 it's now on the front office, then it's now. Then 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.760