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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive right into it. We appreciate all of you

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Speaker 2: hanging out with us. Go listen on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Maybe your vacations are starting soon. I've had a fabulous

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Speaker 2: time up here in New York. I am in Oneonta,

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Speaker 2: New York today. I've been around Cooperstown with this Little

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Speaker 2: League tournament. Fabulous hospitality up here.

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Speaker 3: Buck. I will be out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: And you'll have the show solo, and then we will

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Speaker 2: be I'll be in New York City Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 3: We'll be in the New York City studio together.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, I'm going to a Yankees game with some

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Speaker 2: twelve year old kids, my son among them. So that's

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Speaker 2: what's going on Wednesday for me. But this morning wake

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Speaker 2: up news breaks about Hunter Biden. Phone immediately explodes Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden being given a sweetheart deal at the same time

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Speaker 2: that they are throwing the book at Donald Trump. It

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Speaker 2: is the definition of a two tiered legal system, a

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Speaker 2: banana republic. Indeed, as a lawyer, I'm disgusted by this

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Speaker 2: because those of you listen to this show for a

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Speaker 2: long time. You know, Buck got this one right. Buck said,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe they I think they'll give him deferred prosecution.

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Speaker 3: You nailed it.

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Speaker 2: I did not believe that Merrick Garland would be willing

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Speaker 2: to charge Donald Trump with the full extent of the law,

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Speaker 2: and despite a bevy dozens of felonies on the Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden laptop that the FBI was in possession of, that

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Speaker 2: they would be willing to give him this sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 2: And so I'll start with this, Buck. I know we

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Speaker 2: have a lot of congress people that listen to this show,

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Speaker 2: a lot of their staffs. I think that the Republicans

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Speaker 2: in the House, even though it will not go anywhere,

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Speaker 2: they need to impeach Merrick Garland. Every single Republican who

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Speaker 2: is in the House right now needs to vote to

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Speaker 2: impeach Merrick Garland. He's not going to be removed from office.

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Speaker 2: But here's why I think this is important, Buck, I

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Speaker 2: think they're are a lot of persuadable voters out there.

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Speaker 2: There is the data point that is out even from

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Speaker 2: a CNN poll I was looking at. This just came

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Speaker 2: down the pike seventy one percent of Americans think politics

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Speaker 2: played a role in the decision to invite indict Trump,

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Speaker 2: including ninety two percent of Republicans. Probably not a surprise,

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Speaker 2: Almost every single one of you listening right now, other

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Speaker 2: than Mike Pence, thinks politics was involved in the decision

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Speaker 2: to indict Donald Trump. Sixty seven percent of independence buck

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Speaker 2: two out of every three independent voters. And here's the stunner,

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Speaker 2: fifty three percent of Democrats. A majority of Democrats believe

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Speaker 2: politics played a role in Donald Trump being indicted, and

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Speaker 2: I would bet the numbers will be similar when it

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Speaker 2: comes to Hunter Biden not facing consequential punishment. So this,

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Speaker 2: to me is an area that is very fertile for

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump and any other Republican cantey for president. You

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Speaker 2: should be beating this like a dead horse because it's accurate,

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Speaker 2: it's important, and it's a direct threat to our republic.

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Speaker 2: There is a two tiered system of justice, the Department

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Speaker 2: of Justice and the FBI. And I hate to say

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Speaker 2: this as an attorney cannot be trusted. They have failed

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Speaker 2: of prominence has to be removed. This is why twenty

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Speaker 2: worse it can get than this book.

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Speaker 4: And I think that what it shows you is the

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Speaker 4: Democrats now have the decisions have been made. We often

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Speaker 4: talk about the crossing of the rubicon or the unprecedented

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Speaker 4: nature of this or that action that has gone on,

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Speaker 4: and we've hit a lot of those milestones under the

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Speaker 4: Biden administration, the Biden regime. But now, as you can see,

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Speaker 4: there is nothing to hold them back from taking this

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Speaker 4: to the next levels that we've anticipated all along, which would

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Speaker 4: be a prosecution in Atlanta, Georgia of Donald Trump as well.

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Speaker 4: Which what do we have Andy McCarthy on last week

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Speaker 4: of the possible even Bill Barr. Bill Barr said Georgia

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Speaker 4: trying to get the votes you can get. He didn't say,

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Speaker 3: So George is pretty weak.

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Speaker 4: But I think they're going to do Georgia Jan six,

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Speaker 4: We haven't talked as much about the timing of this.

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Speaker 4: Now you've been saying, and Bill O'Reilly, who was alm

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Speaker 4: I think it's a really interesting conversation because you know,

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Speaker 4: generally speaking, if if you're going to delay it, there

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Speaker 4: has to be a reason. The motions and we don't know,

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Speaker 4: we don't know what the judges going to do here

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Speaker 4: this judge Eileen Cannon, but the motions will take up

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Speaker 4: some time. But to hold the election, I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is the challenge to hold the election of twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: criminal charges. To me, feels like the argument is, well,

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Speaker 4: now you're having the election under undermining or you know,

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Speaker 4: circumstances that really call into question the legitimacy of the

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Speaker 4: whole process. I think you'd argument have to be you

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to be before. And

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Speaker 4: so then we get into this phase of how does

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's talk about the timing, because we haven't

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Speaker 2: discussed this in a great detail.

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Speaker 3: I will be stunned.

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Speaker 2: If Donald Trump stands trial in South Florida before the

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Speaker 2: Republican primary season is complete. And I'll even be surprised

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Speaker 2: if he stands trial before the election next year. Happens now,

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Speaker 2: Eileen Cannon, the federal district court judge has been assigned

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you about this before you keep going,

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Speaker 4: And do you think Trump wants You think Trump wants

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Speaker 4: to delay so that he can win and then pardon himself. Okay,

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Speaker 4: keep going, I think again, I don't know who's gonna

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Speaker 2: Right, I have done criminal defense law. I have represented

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Speaker 4: To be fair, the number of people who have defended

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Speaker 4: to this point is zero, correct, not a single thing.

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Speaker 2: So analyzing I've done murder cases, I've done domestic assault,

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Speaker 2: heading up Donald Trump's criminal defense. Okay, but if Trump

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Speaker 2: came to me and he said, Clay, you know you vote,

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Speaker 3: A conviction on me.

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Speaker 2: Right if you were an incredible risk taker, and Trumps,

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Speaker 2: I want this trial as expeditiously as possible, because if

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Speaker 2: If the jury wouldn't convict in South Florida, I think

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Speaker 2: it would probably destroy all the criminal cases being brought

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Speaker 3: But so isn't there.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because we don't know what the strategy is,

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Speaker 4: I if I'm in Trump's case, also, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know if the judge.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there has to be a limit

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Speaker 4: By right, you're under federal and because the government also

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Speaker 4: gets a say in this, meaning the prosecution. So you know,

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Speaker 4: you can't walk into a court and say, if you're

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Speaker 4: He could go in there and say, look, let's just

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Speaker 4: delay this for ten years. They would laugh at him.

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Speaker 4: And so we're not going to delay this for ten years.

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Speaker 4: So there's clearly a limit of how much you can delay.

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Speaker 4: To delay it beyond the entire twenty twenty four election

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Speaker 4: would mean that a federal indictment was brought. And you're

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Speaker 3: You think dog will happen. It wouldn't stun me at all.

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Speaker 2: And that's where I think all of these motions, I

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Speaker 4: Look, here's the risk. Okay, Trump want that to be

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, this is Trump's call, right, And so if so,

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Speaker 2: let me sketch out the probablibilities, just taking a step

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Speaker 2: But what's the best case scenario for Trump? He goes

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Speaker 2: And as a result, the jury deadlocks and Trump comes

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Speaker 2: The government failed to get a conviction against me. I'm

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Speaker 2: an innocent man.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's the way that Trump and that could happen. Right,

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Speaker 2: that could happen by November, late October, and then Trump

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Speaker 3: Right flip sidebuck.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that could then scare Jack Smith

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Speaker 2: he would start to look like using a literary analogy,

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Speaker 2: this is where I would throw in, you're approaching this

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Speaker 2: and rational, meaning the Jack Smith perspective. Jack Smith, I

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Speaker 2: like that you went to u javert from les Mize.

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Speaker 2: His mission is to destroy Trump. There is no other mission.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think there if he thinks he can

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Speaker 2: get through with a charge, and all this stuff is political,

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Speaker 2: all this is posturing at some level. If he thinks

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Speaker 2: through it because this is his mission. The other you know,

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Speaker 2: the challenge. There's a lot of variables here. I'm just

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Speaker 4: I do not believe that Trump will be able or

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Speaker 4: which we don't even know, push this past the twenty

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Speaker 1: One truth revealed after another. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We'll take some of

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Speaker 4: We're on the show here calling into the show on

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Speaker 4: how you think this plays out. Remember, it's not even

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Speaker 3: That seems to be the strategy.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, they definitely want to keep him on trial.

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Speaker 3: Reacting to the Hunter Biden news the two teared justice system.

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Speaker 3: That he acquires.

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Speaker 6: A felony charge. The charge has been entered, but there's

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Speaker 3: I mean a diversion program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Congressman Wesley Hunt from down in Texas, I retweeted

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Speaker 2: tax evasion, Wesley Snipes in jail. Obviously, Wesley Snipe's an

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Speaker 2: actor because he didn't pay all of his taxes. So

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden pleads guilty to federal tax and gun crime charges,

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Speaker 2: nothing happens to him. Now, those are other prominent people

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Speaker 2: who could have theoretically buck employed expensive lawyers like Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden did, and yet they still face consequences for their

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Speaker 2: behavior in a way that Hunter Biden did not.

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Speaker 4: I want everyone to take note of this right now.

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Speaker 4: Listen to anyone out there who's saying, oh, Hunter Fish justice,

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Speaker 4: which no serious person can like believe that, but they're

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Speaker 4: unserious and so they say it. Listen to everyone who

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Speaker 4: says Hunter Biden has faced the full force of the

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Speaker 4: justice system with this. And just remember, because if Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: at any point in this process takes a plea deal,

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Speaker 4: whether it's in New York or it's in you know,

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Speaker 4: South Florida, or even if he gets convicted and doesn't

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Speaker 4: serve prison time, They're all going to say the fix

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Speaker 4: is in for Trump. They're gonna be like, oh, Trump

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Speaker 4: gets a pass Trump should have you know. So it's

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Speaker 4: all just about what they want politically. It has nothing

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Speaker 4: to do with what's fair or just. I mean, for

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Speaker 4: anybody who's wondering right now whether Hunter is getting beat

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Speaker 4: her treatment, Clay, call me.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget it was James Comy who did this. Send

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Speaker 3: Martha Stewart to prison for five months. Not for insider trading.

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Speaker 4: That is a misunderstanding of what happened, for lying about

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Speaker 4: a conversation with her broker as part of or what

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Speaker 4: turned into an insider trading. So she went to prison

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Speaker 4: for five months. Hunter can't do five months. I think

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Speaker 4: it'd be good for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think an easy analogy to Buck here is

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Speaker 2: the Was it Alan Weiselberg, the Trump CFO, And again

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure that.

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Speaker 3: I get that right. I think that's his name.

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Speaker 2: They sent him to prison Buck for not reporting that

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Speaker 2: he had, for instance, been getting a car and reduced

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Speaker 2: rent on his taxes. They also who was the guy

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Speaker 2: that they tried to put away for basically ever? Was

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Speaker 2: it Paul Manifort. I think over whether or not he

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Speaker 2: had registered as a foreign agent or not for purposes

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Speaker 2: of money that he had brought in from outside sources.

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Speaker 2: They came after those guys with everything they had for

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Speaker 2: relatively inconsequential behavior that paled in comparison to what Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden did based solely on their proximity to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: And now they're giving Hunter Biden a pass based on

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Speaker 2: him being a member of the Biden crime.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at what we know Hunter Biden

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Speaker 4: set up. I wasn't like, I don't want to say

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Speaker 4: the numbers. I might be wrong, but it was. It

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Speaker 4: was a huge number of LLC's, right, set up a

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Speaker 4: huge number of limited liability corporations. Now, why would you

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Speaker 4: do that?

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Speaker 3: Usually?

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Speaker 4: You know it's if you if you if you own

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Speaker 4: a house, let's say that you're a rental property, you'll

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Speaker 4: set up an LLC because you know, if you get sued,

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Speaker 4: you don't want to get you know, personally sued, So

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Speaker 4: you try to create And I'm not a.

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Speaker 3: Lawyer, None of this is legal advice. Clay is a lawyer.

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Speaker 4: You can ask him, but I'm just saying, usually you

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Speaker 4: don't just create a whole lot of dumby LLCs for

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Speaker 4: no reason unless you're trying to conceal a source of funds. Now,

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Speaker 4: if Hunter Biden let's say is getting millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: from Chinese businessmen, which we know he did, and the

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Speaker 4: plan that he had with them is, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: funnel this money to other LLCs that are owned by

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Speaker 4: family members, and eventually some of this money will go

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Speaker 4: to even just pay for Joe Biden's lifestyle or whatever

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Speaker 4: it may be. To get the ten percent for the

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Speaker 4: big guy. That's money laundering. And anyone who knows the

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Speaker 4: US federal criminal Code will tell you money laundering ten

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Speaker 4: twenty years easy every time. Money laundering if they will,

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Speaker 4: just like with wirefraud, when the federal government decides to

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Speaker 4: come down hard on you, they can send you to

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Speaker 4: prison for decades if they want you, or they can

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Speaker 4: give you a slap on the wrist. And you can

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Speaker 4: see the way that this is applied. They didn't go

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Speaker 4: after him for tax evasion. They didn't go after him

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Speaker 4: for money laundering, misdemeanor failure sorry, failure to file. This

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Speaker 4: is the lowest level thing they could have possibly done.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is not even a speeding And remember buck.

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Speaker 2: All of this, he owed millions of dollars in back taxes.

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Speaker 2: A major Joe Biden donor in LA paid his tax

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Speaker 2: bill and is giving him a Malibu mansion to live

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Speaker 2: in as well. This doesn't even get into the craziness

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Speaker 2: of Biden selling all of his artwork for hundreds of

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Speaker 2: thousands of dollars. I mean, this guy, everybody a criminal,

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Speaker 2: serial felon.

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Speaker 4: In twenty seventeen, Hunter received income of one point five

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Speaker 4: million dollars. Okay, I'm sorry in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen

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Speaker 4: didn't declare any of that until he got found out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is.

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Speaker 4: As clear tax evasion you know. Ask Wesley snipes Man.

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Speaker 4: I used to I thought Wesley was great back in

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Speaker 4: the day. Wesley got like four years in federal prison

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Speaker 2: Yep, uh, we come back. I am paying a lot

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Speaker 2: of attention to it. I think Buck is to we'll

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Speaker 2: close out with this discussion. Guys try to go down

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Speaker 4: get to the the meat of a story here, uh to,

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Speaker 4: Clay's gonna be out tomorrow, right, You're going to Yankees

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Speaker 4: game with your son.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Little League tournament is going to be over in Cooperstown.

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Speaker 2: We're going to drive into New York City. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go to a Yankees game. I've got my son, a

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, I'll be out for tomorrow back Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 4: This reminds me of when when I was I was

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Speaker 4: pushed into an NBC Sports on Campus interview when I

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Speaker 4: was in college. I think I told you about the

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Speaker 4: Yankees Red Sox as the best world series. They also

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Speaker 4: asked me I'd forgotten about I think I had suppressed this.

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Speaker 3: Memory I think I had like made this disappear.

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Speaker 2: He asked the best possible world series, too, said to

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Speaker 2: refresh for people out there Yankees read think.

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Speaker 3: He's read me the best.

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Speaker 4: And then I think I tried to be like, well you,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know if it was theoretical or not. Also,

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Speaker 4: they asked who my favorite enough I had a favorite Yankee,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, obviously Don Mattingly and they were like,

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Speaker 4: he retired like fifteen years ago or whatever. So it's like, whoops.

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Speaker 4: That was the only one I could think of. It

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Speaker 4: was either Don Mattingley or like Joe Demaggio. So I

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Speaker 4: couldn't really come up with much there. But Clay will

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Speaker 4: have a great time at the Yankee stadium. You know

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Speaker 4: what I will say about about stadiums because I remember

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Speaker 4: because I used to go to Mathis Square Guard with

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Speaker 4: my parents a lot growing up. My mom took me.

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Speaker 4: I remember this, my first concert taken by my mom.

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Speaker 4: Debbie Gibson. You remember Debbie Gibson. I was second or

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Speaker 4: third grade and mom was like, I'm taking you. She

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Speaker 4: took she took all the kids to a concert. Debbie Gibson,

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Speaker 4: very wholesome, very nice.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what happened.

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Speaker 2: My first concert buck Paula abdul See. Very similar, very similar.

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Speaker 4: First one that I actually got tickets to myself was

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Speaker 4: Lenny Kravitz in the when I was like early on

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Speaker 4: in high school.

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Speaker 3: I went to a Lenny Kravitz concert and I thought

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Speaker 3: I was like the coolest kid in the world. Though

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Speaker 3: that's a good question too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good That was the first one

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Speaker 4: I ever I got tickets to go to.

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Speaker 3: It was Krabits.

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Speaker 2: All right, uh wait oh, but stadium food very very underrated.

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Speaker 4: What a change there's been stadium food. You used to

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Speaker 4: kind of revel in the how do I put this

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Speaker 4: non culinary nature of it? You're like, I want a

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Speaker 4: hot dog that's cold in the middle, I want French

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Speaker 4: fries that were made last week, and I want like

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Speaker 4: fifty ounces of beer that's lukewarm.

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Speaker 3: Like that was a lot of stadium food.

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Speaker 2: Now it's you know, they're pretty much they're bringing you

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Speaker 2: like a seared arctic char on your little uh, your

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Speaker 2: little platter. You know, it's gotten very good. It's gotten

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Speaker 2: way more high end. I think because they've realized how

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Speaker 2: much more people they can, how much more money they

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Speaker 2: can get out of everyone. Right, it's become very very

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Speaker 2: high end, and beers are like, god, twenty bucks of

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Speaker 2: beer now for some stadiums. We mentioned that we were

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Speaker 2: going to give an update that Titanic submersible. They we

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Speaker 2: still don't know okay, where they are, we don't know

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Speaker 2: how much air they have.

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00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: I mean, this is awful hard turn here. Yeah, so

655
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: they've got forty hours and counting right now of oxygen left,

656
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: so they know this. The Coastguard has deployed remote operated

657
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: vehicles to die for the missing sub.

658
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: Can I put this. We're not gonna have time for

659
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: this right now.

660
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: If anyone out there is honestly a true sub mariner,

661
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: you know, if you were like on a sub in

662
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: the Navy, or for some reason you happen to have

663
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: real expertise in submarine, deep sea wreck diving, things like that,

664
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: give us a call tomorrow because we do want to

665
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 4: hear about Because for me, the thing that I asked

666
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: Clay right away is I know it's twelve thousand feet down,

667
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: so maybe this is dumb, but you know, I don't

668
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: know anything about going that far down the water. Very

669
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: few people do. There must be some kind of a

670
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: homing beacon, right I mean it must be. I don't

671
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: know if it's tough to locate that far down, but

672
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: the notion that they could lose this thing, this submarine

673
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: that's twenty feet long, it's got five people in it.

674
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: They paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars ahead. There's

675
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: a billionaire British guy with his son as part of

676
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: the foursome of people who paid someone to get get

677
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: in there, and uh and yeah, it's uh, it's just Clay.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any amount of money.

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I don't think there's any amount of

680
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: money that i'd be able to uh, to go Downhobia.

681
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Speaker 2: The guy who's down there with his dad with his son.

682
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: I can't imagine being a dad and have taken my

683
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: son to this tour and to be lost like this,

684
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: I just it's hard to even comprehend. And I'm with you,

685
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: I would have thought. But I felt the same way

686
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: about the Malaysian Airlines plane that they totally lost, that

687
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: they've never been able to find. The idea that you

688
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: could ever lose a plane to me was crazy. This

689
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: idea is also crazy. I would think that you would

690
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: be able to track this down to my new detail. Now,

691
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: maybe the fact that you're two miles underwater mean, I mean,

692
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: can we lose a nuclear submarine? Like I would think

693
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: it would be impossible to lose a nuclear submarine, But

694
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: maybe we're wrong. Maybe it is possible when you go

695
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: down underneath the water that much that we really don't

696
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: have any idea. This is scary, man, it's an awful story.

697
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: And you know, I hope that they can find these

698
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: guys and manage in some way to rescue them. The Yeah,

699
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: we're praying that they'll have a successful rescue effort here. Obviously,

700
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be very tough, you know. The James

701
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: Cameron I learned this when I was reading about this.

702
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: James Cameron has gone to the second greatest depth ever

703
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Speaker 2: in the ocean. There's only one expedition that went deeper

704
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: than he did, so apparently when he was doing all

705
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: that Titanic stuff he got really into undersea exploration. Yeah,

706
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Speaker 2: I would hope, So I would hope they're going to

707
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: be able to find them. We'll see what happens. There

708
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Speaker 2: can't be that many people who have that much knowl

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Speaker 3: Dalky Tomorrow, everybody