1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, living the dream once again. Here on a fully 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: loaded college football Saturday, Fox Football Saturday. We are broadcasting 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: live from the ti Iraq dot com studios tierraq dot com. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: We're gonnap get you there. A no match selection, fast 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: re shipping. Free road has a protection over ten thousand 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: recommended installers tire rag dot com the way tire buying 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: should be. Well, look who's here? 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Now? 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm here, And a couple. 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Of weeks ago, we were sitting here and the writer's 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: strike was about to end. Now, people don't know everything 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: that's on the resume of the great Ephraim Salaam. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: Well, I try. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: He since his highly successful NFL career and of course 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: his legendary career prior to that at San Diego State, 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: has embarked on a multitude of assignments, so to speak, 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry, writer, producer, whatever needs to be done, 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: and so he has a lot of things that he 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: has to over. So as soon as I heard that 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: the writer's strike was over e from I had this 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: feeling that it might be a couple of weeks before 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: I actually see my dear Freddie from Salam again, that's 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: exactly what it played out, So you immediately went back to work, right, Look, 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest. 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: Strike being over is a wonderful thing for you. Yes, yes, 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: it's glorious. It was a long one hundred and forty 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: eight days. 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 5: Now. 30 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: To be clear, you are a member of the Writers 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Guild of America. 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: I am. 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: I have been for almost six years now, right. I 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: am currently on continuing to work on a show in 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: its third season called bel Air. It's been amazing. I'm 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: so excited to get back to work to create a 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: new season for our loving fans to get a hold of, 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: as well as other things that I'm delving. 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you could stop by. I mean, I'll 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: always have a seat here for you. 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: I figured I might as well just come on in. Look, 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: but I will say this, this job, no matter what 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: I've done post NFL, this job has always been a 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: part of my post career, whether it be through the pandemic, 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 4: the writers strike, or any other thing, this has always 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: been a priority. So I've always been, you know, grateful 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: to Don and Scott and all of that for allowing 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: me to continue to be a voice on all the 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: sports that I love, so you know this is something 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: that I don't think I could ever give up. 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, of course, and of course in the many many 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: years that you and I have crossed paths in this industry, 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: I know initially you realize that you know, I'm a 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: guy that talks a lot, and you know you wanted 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: to express yourself, which is not always easy working with. 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: Someone like me. 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Now we have found our lane. Lane, We have a 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: lane now. By the way, you know Jeff Schwartz has 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: been filling in a lot now. Having Jeff on today's 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: show would have been an impossibility because he's an Oregon 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: guy and for them in this huge matchup against Washington 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: by the way, updating that score, Washington is leading Oregon 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: twenty nine to eighteen. We got nine minutes to go 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: in the third quarter, big battle, top ten teams, both undefeated, 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: two quarterbacks. Very much in the Heisman conversation, it would 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: have been impossible for him, especially since he's in Carolina. 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: I can't see him. He would just check out, much 68 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: as you do with the Aztecs on occasions. 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, well, at least you don't have to worry 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: about that today. For me in the Aztecs it's a 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: love hate release. 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Wow four st rate loss in football, Yeah yeahstball and basketball. 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: If the game's on and I'm in here, it's a problem. 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: And we've had some of those as well. Oh we 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: have oh yeah, oh. 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so well last season. See now as tall 77 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: as Ephraim is. Here's the deal. So a lot of 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: people say, oh, you went to Sandy Go s did 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: you play basketball? And You're like, yes, I did, Yes, 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: I did, Yes, I did. I'm part of that basketball 81 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Yes i am. 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: I am part of that community. And I was. 83 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: I was one of the few players in Division one 84 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: who played football and basketball. 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: So she did. So yeah, I love it. I love 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: my school, I love sport. 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: I love all of these games on Saturday. I love 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: coming in here. And we see, we got a beautiful 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: set up here in our studio. Those at home, we 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: got TV's all over the place. We got you know, frappuccinos, 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 4: we got everything going on in here. 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful, beautiful set. 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: Up, all right. So I want to ask you about 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: last night. So last night, you know, we had this 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: Colorado Stanford game and I had nothing else going on. 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 3: A Friday night. 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: My son was out, and you know, I was basically 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: by myself with the Dogs and it's twenty nine nothing 99 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: at halftime. I'm like, you know, this sucks because I 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: was hoping to at least settle in a competitive game. 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: So I'm actually doing busy work while the game's on 102 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: in the background, and all of a sudden, I sort 103 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: of hear Stanford scores. I turn around, I look at 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: him fail on a two point conversion. Twenty nine to six. Great, okay, 105 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: so they don't get shut out well the rest of 106 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: the evening one like crazy, and the next thing you know, 107 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Stanford's kicking a game winning field goal forty six forty three. 108 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: First of all, there's a short list of teams at 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: any level that have blown a twenty nine nothing lead 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: at home. 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: That's a very short list. 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: That's tough to do, whether it's professional, college, high school, 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: any level. When you have a twenty nine to nothing 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: lead at the half at home, you're not going to 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: lose unless you'll go out of your way for fine 116 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: to waig to lose. Look, I know you're a big 117 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: fan of the whole coach prime situation. I am too. 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: I think it's a game changer for college football. But 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: what I saw last night was a coach that you 120 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: know afterwards he said all the right things, like I 121 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: felt nervous. I'm trying to convey to these young guys 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: this game's not over. But obviously they just checked out. 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: Seventeen turnovers. Seventeen turnovers. This is a lack of discipline 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: on a team. And that's not like the first game 125 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: of the year or the second game of the year. 126 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: You know, this is your seventh game of the season, 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: and for your team to have seventeen turnovers, not to 128 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: mention the personal foul penalty which was blatant, and even 129 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: shdor Sanders throwing the ball up for grabs when you 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: gets third down, I mean, at the very least get 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: a field goal there, just kick the field force to 132 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: have to get a touchdown to beat you. So the 133 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: lack of discipline on this Colorado team, how much of 134 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: that falls at the feet of their coaches? 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: Well all of it does. You take the good with 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: the bad, and as much as we praise Deon Sanders 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: about how he's turned over the program and what he 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: means to college football, you also have to be hypercritical 139 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: of them, just like you would any other coach in 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: any other program. Right, if you build up this team 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: and they believe that there's something or better than they are, 142 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: that's a great thing. But you also have to stop 143 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: your team from believing the hype. All right, you have 144 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: three wins. You have to stop your four wins. 145 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: Four and three. 146 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: You have to stop the egos from becoming bigger than 147 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: the talent in the room. Now, Deon Sanders is one 148 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: of those guys who walks in rarefied air. His ego 149 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: was never bigger than his talent talent because his talent 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: was the biggest on the planet. So he could walk 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: it and he could talk it. Now, that message is 152 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: excellent when you got a bunch of Dion Sanders in 153 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: the room, but as we all know, that's something that 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: it's so rare that you only get one d On 155 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: And so that message that he's conveying to his players is, look, 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: we belong here. We're better than they say we are. 157 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: That's all fine and good, but the foundation has to 158 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 4: be said. The foundation is rooted in. 159 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: Maturity. 160 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: It's rooted and toughness is routed and rooted in intelligence. 161 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: And we didn't see that last night, the turnovers, the penalties. 162 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: Yet now it looks like some of the team is 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: buying into the hype and not willing to do the 164 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: actual work. If you're gonna be a good team defensively, 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: you got to stop somebody. 166 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Here was another problem I have. So Travis Hunter had 167 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: sat out three games and he was back. He had 168 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: thirteen catches on hundred and forty yards and two touchdowns, 169 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: and he was playing defense. And Stanford took advantage of that, 170 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: of course, because he's gotta be gassed. I mean, I 171 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: mean Deon Sanders at Florida State hinted a couple of 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: times about playing wide receiver. I mean, if you look 173 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: at it, the guy that probably did the one season 174 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: who played the most both ways of Champ Bailey that 175 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: here at Georgia, like he was a full time receiver 176 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: and defensive back. Charles Woodson was a part time receiver 177 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: and a punt return guy. You know, Miles Jack had 178 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: that historic year at UCLA where he was both the 179 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: defensive and offensive Freshman of the Year. But when you're 180 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: a wide receiver and a defensive back is different than 181 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: being a running back in the linebacker because you're running 182 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: up and down the field, and Stanford constant ran him 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: deep over he was completely gassed. At the end of 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: that game, Stanford took advantage. The receiver had two hundred 185 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: and ninety four yards, receiving an all time Stamford record. 186 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 2: And again, to me, this Travis Hunter's situation is an 187 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: extension of Deon Sanders ego because he looks at Travis Hunterson, 188 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: I never had that kind of talent, like he has 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: more talent than me. All right, well, don't put your 190 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: young player in that kind of difficult situation. And Hunter 191 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: showed his frustration by getting called for that personal foul penalty, 192 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: which was hyper critical in the outcome of that game. 193 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: So these are things that were d on I just 194 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: think he has to take a step back. 195 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to realize. 196 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: Look, man, first of all, this kid shouldn't have been 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: able to been on the field that much too much. 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: You should have said, hey, look where do we need 199 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: you the most, And in my opinion, that would be 200 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball. So in this 201 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: first game back, you're just going to play on the 202 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball, and we'll have one or 203 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: two things set aside for you offensively. If we feel 204 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: like we can take advantage of a situation like having 205 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: him offensively in overtime would have been tremendous because it 206 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 4: would have been a different look that they could have 207 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: came out onto the field with. But having him primarily 208 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: a defensive back and a defensive player and a much 209 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 4: maligned defense, That's what I, as a coach would have done, 210 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: because that's where I think you could have got the 211 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: most value out of Travis Hunter coming off missing three 212 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: weeks and having an injury. 213 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: All Right, we have much more college football to get to. 214 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: We got a couple of huge games about to kick off. 215 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: We'll be all over that. But in the meantime, we'll 216 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: also get you ready for your NFL Sunday. Adam Kaplan, 217 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider, joins us. 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So back and forth they go, 248 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: Washington leading Oregon twenty nine to twenty six minu and 249 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: a half to go in the third quarter. All right, 250 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: we get ready for our NFL Sunday. A man very 251 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: generous with his very busy schedule to join us every 252 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: Saturday here to give us his opinion. What's going to 253 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: transpire on a busy NFL Sunday. Our Fox Sports Radio 254 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: NFL insider Adam Kaplan is joining us right now, Adam 255 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: seventy two to three. Seventy two to three. That's the 256 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: combined score of the last two losses for the New 257 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: England Patriots twenty four years for Belichick, his two worst 258 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 2: losses coming back to back weeks. Look, it's one thing 259 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: to get blown out by Dallas on the road, but 260 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: thirty four and nothing against a Saints team that had 261 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: only had four offensive touchdowns the entire season. So right now, 262 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: Bob Kraft has been a little bit quiet. But about Belichick, 263 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: what's going to happen here in New England? I mean, 264 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: it looks like a bad situation is only going to 265 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: get worse. So where does this put the New England 266 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: organization in terms of their legendary Hall of Fame to 267 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: be coach. 268 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 8: Steve He wasn't silent the spring and the offseason. In fact, 269 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 8: I was kind of surprised taking aback that he wouldn't 270 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 8: quite mention Belichick by name, but he said that they 271 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 8: put Matt Patricia in a tough situation who never called 272 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 8: place before. He said they have to draft better. Craft 273 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 8: is never negative about Belichick or anything that they've done publicly. 274 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: He just doesn't do that. But this to me was 275 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: a salvo. 276 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 8: This is like, hey, we got to be better, and 277 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 8: I'm no longer gonna be silent, as you were talking 278 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 8: about now in season. 279 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Obviously he's not gonna say anything. 280 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 8: Owners typically don't say anything other than Jerry Jones because 281 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 8: he's a general manager of the Cowboys, so he's going 282 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 8: to say whatever he wants. But I do believe that 283 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 8: this could have come down on a showdown after the season. 284 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 8: If they're four and thirteen, five and twelve, and mac 285 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 8: Jones looks as bad now he's been horrendous lately. After 286 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 8: a good start against Philly in Week one. If this continues, 287 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 8: I could certainly see something changing. I've always been a 288 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 8: Belichick defender, just for the record, and when all the 289 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 8: rumors about Brady and Belichick couldn't work together, Yeah, it 290 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 8: would eventually not work in the end, but for years 291 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 8: there was nothing new to anyone to cover the team 292 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 8: their issues between the two of them, and it took 293 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 8: many years for it to end. But this one's different, 294 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 8: and there's really no life preserver for Belichick right now. Yes, 295 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 8: he's got personal control. He makes all decisions, but when 296 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 8: the owner knows exactly what's going on, it's not working. 297 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: They're good. 298 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 8: There are gonna be some issues. And by the way, 299 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 8: the owner was very involved in the decision to bring 300 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 8: back Gerrod Mao as the defensive coordinator. He doesn't have 301 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 8: the exact title, but he's being paid very well. And 302 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 8: he also putsed Belichick to hire an offensive coordinator and 303 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 8: that one up being Bill Bryant. 304 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this. 305 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: To me, it seems like the Belichick are the Patriots 306 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: way only works when you have one of the greatest 307 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: quarterbacks to ever played, because everything that we've seen and 308 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: heard without Tom Brady at the helm has been rubbish. 309 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: And so guys buying in and guys playing their roles, 310 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: all that was great when Tom Brady was a part 311 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: of the organization for twenty years, and you remove that 312 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: aspect of it and now it's not connecting. Yeah, guys, 313 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I've never seen the Patriots team this bad, 314 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: Our Belichick team this bad. But I want to move on. 315 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: I want to go to Minnesota and doctor saying Justin 316 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 4: Jefferson be out close to four weeks with his hamstring. 317 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: What does this do for Minnesota? The kirk Cousins of 318 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: it all. Is this a great opportunity for them to 319 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: try to get some value and trade him away. 320 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 321 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: The problem is he's got a no trade clause. 322 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 8: And this is what other teams have mentioned when I've 323 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 8: talked to them of that if he's going to be traded, 324 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 8: he would only want to go somewhere. He's got a 325 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 8: chance to win a super Bowl, and it's just no 326 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 8: reason for him to go somewhere he can't win because 327 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 8: he's made all the money in the world. What's left 328 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 8: for him is to win the playoffs. You saw what 329 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 8: happened last year when the Giants went in there to 330 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 8: Minneapolis and smoked him in the. 331 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Wild caught round. So that's not what they're looking for. 332 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 8: And The other thing for the Vikings guys is they 333 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 8: don't have a future quarterback. Cousins on the final year 334 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 8: his deal. He's got a three year avoid on his contract, 335 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 8: so this will be it, but they don't have his successor. 336 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 8: Jarn Hall is a rookie out of BYUS a fifth 337 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 8: round or there's no thought he could be a starting 338 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 8: quarterback for them in the future. 339 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: So they don't know who that is. 340 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 8: And look, here's the problem from last year and I 341 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 8: just when they were thirteen to four, I remember telling 342 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 8: people that there's just no way there's good that they've 343 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 8: set an NFL record for most fourth quarter come from 344 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 8: behind victory, right exactly. This is not gonna last and 345 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 8: it hasn't. And by the way, their defense is not 346 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 8: played well that they need to help Brian Flores. They 347 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 8: just don't have a lot of talent on defense. To me, 348 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 8: this is a team that's in total transition. I'm not 349 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 8: saying they have to blow it up, but they have 350 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 8: to really build through the draft. 351 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: This team is. 352 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 8: They're as bad as I thought they'd be. I thought 353 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 8: they'd be a five or six win team, and that's 354 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 8: what we're headed for here, all. 355 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Right, We're only five weeks into the season. But the 356 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers have separated themselves from the rest of 357 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: the league. I mean, I mean, I don't see anybody 358 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: that has a vision of the forty nine ers. And 359 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: I know, Adam, you've been hesitant. 360 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: Oh he has with brock Purty. 361 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I'm seriously and like again, forget the stats. 362 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking eyeball and the two things I need to 363 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: see out of a quarterback is accuracy and quick decision making. 364 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: And he's checking both boxes. He even throws accurately under duress, 365 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: even it doesn't seem feasible with his physical statures. So 366 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: I mean, Barie, injuries and injuries can be a big 367 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: part of it, and obviously the forty nine Ers were 368 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: a victim of this a year ago. I mean, is 369 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: there any team, right, I mean, who's the best, second 370 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: best team? 371 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: Right? 372 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 8: Philly would be, but I would agree with your assessment. 373 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 8: The Niners are better than them, and by the way 374 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 8: they played in Week thirteen, the Philly rematch of the 375 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 8: NFC Championship game, and I could tell you they're looking 376 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 8: forward to that because they felt short changed after party 377 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 8: was lost in the first quarter after that sack. But yeah, 378 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 8: I would say party. Here's the thing that's kind of 379 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 8: surprised me. No matter what teams thrown him, he doesn't 380 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 8: turn the ball over. 381 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: He's so accurate. 382 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 8: Now, I was saying on social media yesterday on X 383 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 8: as we call it now the former Twitter, this is 384 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 8: something I saw from my friends at pro Fooable Network. 385 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 8: They were transcribing a quote from Shannon Sharp about Brock 386 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 8: Purdy about he's a system quarterback and I get that. 387 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: I get that. 388 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 8: Look, so Joe Mantannem was in the Hall of Fame. 389 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 8: But what I said was that is true. But he's 390 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 8: also an elite processor. And that's Steve was what you're 391 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 8: talking about, his ability to process information that comes at him. Whatever, 392 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 8: here's the play, here's the way we're drawing it up, 393 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 8: and then after the postnap, what the defense is doing 394 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 8: to him. 395 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: That's what you're talking about, Steve. It's remarkable. 396 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 8: There's a great clip on the Matchup Show when ESPN 397 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 8: I watched this morning on what you were saying, Steve. 398 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 8: He made this tight window throw that he threw with 399 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 8: anticipation when the intended pass target was Juwan Jennings. You 400 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 8: couldn't even see Jennings in the picture. He threw it 401 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 8: as Jennings was in his route and the ball got there. 402 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 8: Think about the trust that he hasn't make that throw. 403 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 8: The pass targ was not even there and he made 404 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 8: the throw and he's trusting the guy. 405 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Would be there. 406 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 8: So yeah, you're right the guy. There's really not much 407 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 8: you could say than the guy process. Well, he's no 408 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 8: quarterback right now. I voted two poles. He absolutely would 409 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 8: be my MVP, not that we have one after five weeks, 410 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 8: but he would be my MVP right now. 411 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. 412 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: Listening to those pundits and the Shannon Sharps and all 413 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 4: the guys talk about brock Party and his lack of 414 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: being an elite quarterback and an elite passer, being a 415 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: system guy. Tom Brady was Tom Brady his first two 416 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: years in the league. Was he an elite quarterback. I 417 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 4: would take what brock Party has been able to do, 418 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: throwing the ball down the field, spreading the ball around 419 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: over what Tom Brady did his first two years, because 420 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: he truly was a gang manager and a system quarterback. 421 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: Because they had the defense, they had the running game. 422 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 4: They built this world around him. Although brock Party had 423 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: as it as well. He throws the ball down the 424 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: field with anticipation, with confidence, He's unshaken. And so I'm 425 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: equating the two and their journeys in their paths moving forward. 426 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: So for me, just like you said, I'm considering brock 427 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: Purty in elite quarterback at this time in the league. 428 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: And of course he's in the conversation with him and 429 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: Tua and in Mahomes as the league MVP. 430 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: See. 431 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 8: I think from what happens is and I think we're 432 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 8: all when we evaluate players, we sometimes fall into a well, 433 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 8: the guy's the seventh round pick, last pick overall, he 434 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 8: can't be this good because we don't accept Like, okay, guys, 435 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 8: can you mentioned Brady. 436 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: Hold on second he from what round were you draft? 437 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: Seventh round? Thank you? 438 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 2: Right right on the starter in Super Bowl history. 439 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: There you go. 440 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: And look, sometimes we just have to change her. 441 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 8: Like Jalen Hurts right here at Philly, every team I 442 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 8: talked to, including the Eagles, had a lower grade than 443 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 8: second round. 444 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: The Eagles just I mean, they got it right. 445 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: It looks great now, but they had a much lower 446 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 8: greater than the second round pick most people. For last thing, 447 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 8: you've heard the pundits as you mentioned. They don't think 448 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 8: Hurts is that good. They think he's more of a 449 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 8: product of the system and product of a great environment, 450 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 8: rather than give him credit for his performance. That's the 451 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 8: problem that people have. They just don't want to. They 452 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 8: don't want to because they have there It's hard for 453 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 8: people to mith that they're wrong. 454 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: Right, yep. 455 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: That's the biggest problem we have in this country. Look, 456 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 8: sometimes you got to change your opinion and I'll give 457 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 8: you I'll give you one. You play with this guy. 458 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 8: This guy was a was a really good quarterback for 459 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 8: the system. You might remember Matt shob. 460 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 461 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Job. 462 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 8: Shop was a timing rhythm when he was at his 463 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 8: best with the Texans. You were with him with the 464 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 8: Tech Yeah, yep, right right. The guy's are pretty solid 465 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 8: upper half, probably top ten, top ten, top twelve. Had 466 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 8: some injuries and he fell off, But the guy's a 467 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 8: timing quarterback. That's kind of who Perty reminds me of. 468 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 8: A Shop was much taller and Party is a smaller 469 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 8: guy's only six foot one, by the way, But his 470 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 8: leadership talking to the Niners, his leadership, they kind of knew 471 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 8: that part early on. That was never in question. They 472 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 8: just didn't know he could throw the ball like this. 473 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 8: This has been incredible. 474 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know why I'm paying personnel people 475 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: to come back saying, hey, the guy six foot five, 476 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: he's two hundred and forty pounds, he can throw eighty yards. 477 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: I can see that, right. Does he have it? Does 478 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: he have the IT factor? Does he have that X 479 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: factor that makes a successful quarterback, because if you look 480 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: at the history of this league, there is no type 481 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: casting the greatest quarterbacks of all time. There are a 482 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 2: mix of everything. Adam, You're so on the mark. It's 483 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: always great, every good stuff. Guys, Well check it next week. 484 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. All right, Adam Kaplan joined us 485 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: there a Fox Sports Radio NFL insider. Let's find out 486 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: what is trending right now. Very busy man, television star, 487 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh stuff, UCLA enthusiasts. I think he's playing many roles 488 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: these days. Like you he from, He's he's got a 489 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: lot on his plate. So when we have them here, 490 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: it's a treat. 491 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 9: Well, Ephraim understands. I think versatility is employability. 492 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: Oh you right, Yes, you always have a job. 493 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what I If one thing has a roadblock, 494 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 9: if you have something else they can find a way. 495 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: If you don't strike four hundred and forty eight days, 496 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: you guys steal po. 497 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: For years would ask me why do you work seven 498 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: days a week? And my answer was because I can. 499 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, oh yeah, no. 500 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: Out about it. 501 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 9: Well, guys, As far as what's happening in college football 502 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 9: right now, Number eight Oregon has taken a lead, Jordan 503 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 9: James running in a ten yard score. So Oregon thirty three. 504 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 9: Number seven Washington twenty nine, early stages of the fourth quarter, 505 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 9: both of these teams undefeated, both at five and oh 506 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 9: a lot riding on this matchup and who comes out 507 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 9: on top, and a battle of two top ten squads. 508 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 9: Number six Penn State obliterating UMass fifty six to nothing. 509 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 9: Why they scheduled that game, but I'm sure there was 510 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 9: something to it. UMass assuming that this outcome holds up, 511 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 9: would then go to one and seven. So there's that, 512 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 9: and it's in the fourth quarter. Other games, and many 513 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 9: have already been completed. Number one Georgia thirty seven to 514 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 9: twenty winners against Vanderbilt. Bulldog's tight end Brock Bauers suffered 515 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 9: an injury to his ankle on the second quarter. Did 516 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 9: not come back x rays or negative. Number two Michigan 517 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 9: fly swatting Indiana fifty two to seven, Wolverine quarterback JJ 518 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 9: McCarthy three touchdowns through the air. Number three Ohio State 519 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 9: stays perfect with her forty one to seven SmackDown on 520 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 9: Perdue Well. Number four Florida sty did that against Syracuse 521 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 9: forty one to three. As the Seminoles are out to 522 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 9: fourd oh on the conference action and their record there 523 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 9: and fourd oh in conference would be Number eleven Alabama 524 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 9: as they avoid disappointment and the comeback mind at Arkansas, 525 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 9: who outscored Bama fifth teen to three in the second half, 526 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 9: but Bama goes on to win it twenty four to 527 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 9: twenty one. Number sixteen a Utah finishes off Cal thirty 528 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 9: four to fourteen. It is so hard if you're an 529 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 9: opposing team to win at Rice Eccle Stadium. The Bears 530 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 9: learning that from first hand experience. And with that, let's 531 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 9: get it back to Eve from Salam and Steve Hartman. 532 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 9: The biggest game in Steve, we might be biased. The 533 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 9: biggest game is coming at butt eight Eastern Oregon State UCLA. 534 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: It's going to be a defensive battle like the fifth, 535 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: it is the biggest game because it's the best defensive game. 536 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 3: Defense. Defense, defense. 537 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I know, I think I got this 538 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: right that SC and Notre Dame. 539 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: Notre Dame are about to play. 540 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: Is that it's about an hour away. 541 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm just maybe I didn't. I'm sorry. 542 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: By the way, I heard somebody they were showing some 543 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: highlights of Notre Dame USC football games over the years, 544 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: and some commentators said, you know, watching those highlights is 545 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: literally like watching the history of college I mean, I mean, 546 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: no two schools have ever had more matchups as ranked 547 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: teams in the history of college football. 548 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: But the Oregon State UCLA game is the biggest one, right, 549 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 4: Okay it is. 550 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: But defensively, those are the two biss defenses in the 551 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: Pac twelve. All right, thank you very much. I'd be 552 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: Fenn Brian Finily there one. Once again, this is Fox 553 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: Football Saturday. We're coming to you live from the tai 554 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: iraq dot com studios. I wanted to ask you about 555 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: what happened on Thursday night, the Chiefs defeating the Broncos 556 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: nineteen to eight. This is a Broncos team that gave 557 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: up ten touchdowns to Miami. They gave up three touchdowns 558 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: in one quarter to the Bears. She's got one touchdown 559 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: against that defense. Something is not quite clicking with Patrick 560 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: Mahomes and that Chiefs offense. I mean, that is a 561 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: historically bad beef. 562 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this. 563 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 4: The notion that you can continue to remove pieces and 564 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 4: things will be the same as a false notion. 565 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: But there was the theory that Mahomes is like Brady. 566 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: Like Brady had this revolving door receivers. 567 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, where. 568 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: He could take a nobody, a special teams guy, make 569 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: him an all Pro receiver. Okay, So that was the 570 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: assumption that Mahomes is the same way. Doesn't matter that 571 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill or Juju Smith, Schuster or any of these guys. 572 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: He could make anybody a star receiver. 573 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: But to that point, what did Tom Brady have. Tom 574 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: Brady had Rob Gronkowski. 575 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: Yes he did. 576 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: No matter what was going on on the outside, tom 577 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: Brady had or in the backfield, tom Brady had Rob Gronkowski. 578 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: And mass Travis. 579 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: Kess, and Mahomes has Travis Kelce. 580 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: Why do you think Rob Gronkowski's is one of the 581 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: greatest tight ends to ever play? Why do you think 582 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey's on his way to becoming one of the 583 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: greatest tight ends to. 584 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Ever play, He's already there. 585 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: So when we. 586 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: Watched that game on Thursday, how many times was Travis targeted? 587 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: The trust level was there Travis. 588 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: You really have to watch it and you have to 589 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: understand the nuance of their relationship and the plays in 590 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: Kansas City. Travis isn't running routes right, He's not coming 591 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: up to the line breaking the huddle be like, oh, 592 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: I have the button hook here, or you know, I'm 593 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: running a post staring out. There's a feeling there, and 594 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: you can watch them while they play. I'm going to 595 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: sit here, I'm going to carry through. It's knowing the 596 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: defense and what they're giving you. So many times those 597 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: throws are off schedule because the defense is giving you 598 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: a certain look. Travis Kelcey will adapt to it. And 599 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: the connection that he has with Patrick Mahomes makes it 600 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: seem like, oh, this is how they drew up. So 601 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: you keep asking yourself on third down, how can he 602 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: still be open? Because he's getting open. 603 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: Right by the way back of my Raiders' days in 604 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: the eighties, I was eyewitnessed to an identical receiver, the 605 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: late great Todd Christensen. He was the tight end. You know, 606 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: he was an undersized tight end. But his ability to 607 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: find a spot, sit, sit down, and then the quarterback 608 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: knowing I've got him, Jim Plunkett, Marco, it didn't matter 609 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: who our quarterback was. Plunkett loved him and made him 610 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: a star. But again, when I watched Kelsey and you're 611 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: one hundred percent right, he just he finds a spot. 612 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: Those aren't routes, he's right. 613 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: And then there has to be that instinct where he's 614 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: constantly on Mahomes Radarf like it doesn't matter where he's looking, 615 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: he always seems to know exactly where Kelsey is. 616 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: He's mastered, Travis. 617 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: Kelsey has mastered the art of making himself available. Yes, 618 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: and that in itself is a talent reserve for the greats. 619 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we're gonna 620 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: get to oh oh, it's that time. And by the way, 621 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: this has changed, Ephraim. It's gonna be my Heisman update. 622 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: But we're not gonna go based on last week's games. 623 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no no, this is going to be 624 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: up to the minute, Oh literally the minute. Where do 625 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: I stand in the Heisman chase. You're gonna find out. 626 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harbin eph from Salam, 627 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: this is Fox Football Saturday. We are coming you alive 628 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot com studios. All right, it's that. 629 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 5: Time countdown Heisman watch. 630 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. 631 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: All right. 632 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: So I decided, Look, I decided, because good look we're 633 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: we got a later starting time, that I was gonna 634 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: do my Heisman update up to the minute based on that. 635 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: Here is my current number three, third and two. From 636 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: the seventeen snap, the Pennix helmet high. 637 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 10: He's gonna throw it toward the end zone for a doonsay. 638 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 11: He helds on well being draped by a duck and he. 639 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 12: Flexes those muscles tensible at the confoinder right there. From 640 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 12: a doonsay, a taker to the dogs of a twenty 641 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 12: eight eighteen lead on Oregon. 642 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: That's Tony Cassoni from lear Field. Michael Pennix Junior, who'd 643 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: been averaging four hundred yards passing per game right now, 644 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: just as two hundred and forty nine yards passing in 645 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: this Washing game against Oregon. Pennix is my current number three. 646 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: Here is my current number two. 647 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 13: They're down in four now for USC at the Arizona nineteen. 648 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 13: Williams will take the snap and keep it straight up. 649 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 13: The gut goes left. He's down to the ten to 650 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 13: the fi Ivan into the end zone. Touchdown US soon 651 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 13: third running and touchdown of the game for Tilo Williams. 652 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: Hit here he is Pete Harvey Gass there and the 653 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: Trojans radio network Kayleb. Williams, your reigning Heism winner, checks 654 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: in at number two. Here is my current number one. 655 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 13: Sure receivers right from the thirty back to throw bowl 656 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 13: wants to go deep. 657 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 11: He's got him touchdown Oregon. That quick Franklin. Troy Franklin 658 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 11: got behind him, bout put it right in the bread basket. 659 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: Jerry Allen from lear Field bow nicks Oregon quarterback my 660 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: current number one. Now, this came down to who was 661 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: to lead this game. Watching when it started. Washington is 662 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: literally knocking on the door. They're actually reviewing a play 663 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: to see whether or not Washington scored. 664 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: I think he was. 665 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: Actually he was definitely down. In fact, he fumbled the 666 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: ball fell in his. 667 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 4: Own fumbled, and when he recovered the fumble exactly he 668 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: was in the end zone. 669 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: I think the ball was still down though before the 670 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: line is what they're gonna rule. But they and they 671 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: have so washing right now with a second of goal, 672 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: eight and a half minutes to go in the fourth quarter, 673 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: trailing Oregon thirty three to twenty nine. By the way, 674 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: bo Nicks is not a bad choice. He actually came 675 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: into this game having completed get this, Sephraim eighty point 676 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: three percent of his passes this year for the season, 677 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: not just a game for the season. 678 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, if they score right here, yes, 679 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: do we switch one in three right now, live on 680 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 4: the air. 681 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 2: If it happens by the end of this segment, right 682 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: they're Washing gets stoned by Oregon third and third and goal, 683 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: third and goal right there. Look, both these guys are 684 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: going to be in the chase. And last week and 685 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 2: I was sitting here with Jeff Schwartz, who's an Oregon guy, 686 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: and I had Pennix one, I had a Caleb two. 687 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: I had Bowed Nicks three. And you know, for people saying, well, 688 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: there's other quarterbacks that don't play in the Pac twelve 689 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: going into this week, those three quarterbacks not only were 690 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 2: all undefeated, they combined fifty two touchdowns and four picks. 691 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: You can't keep them out. 692 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like Drake May the first three 693 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: games of the year at five touchdowns, four picks. I'm 694 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: sorry he's not in the conversation, and I would love 695 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 2: to put a non quarterback there. But you know, brock 696 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: Powers is one of my favorites. I had a big 697 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: week last week and I thought maybe then he gets 698 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: hurt today. Yep, four catches twenty two yards and he 699 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: goes down with the injury. Washington is sled out shorts, 700 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 2: so they're gonna have a fourth end goal right. 701 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: Now from the one foot line. 702 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because I know you've been 703 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: watching everybody. Alabama has got problems, serious problems. Georgia is 704 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: not looking like a world beater the way they have 705 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: dominated the last couple of years. 706 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: Well, when you lose as especially your signal call, and 707 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: when you lose as many players to the NFL as 708 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 4: they have, there's going to be some rough patches before 709 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: you get the young players up to speed. 710 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: So watching this game that has lived up to the 711 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 2: hyphen then so all tween Washington and Oregon this season 712 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: in the moment, are these teams on par with the 713 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 2: best of the SEC or the Big ten. 714 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: Have to offer. Oh, I would have to say so. 715 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: And Washington just got stopped on fourth and goal. Yeah, 716 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: so my pick stands. Your pick should stand because I 717 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: don't know if I have a Heisman candidate, why is 718 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: he not? 719 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to put the ball in his head, Thank you, 720 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 3: I can make a decision. 721 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: He ran the ball three times up the middle. 722 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 4: And then this last running back that they handed the 723 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 4: ball up is the backup running back. I'm not doing 724 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: that if I have the guy, I'm not putting the 725 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: ball in the hands of anybody outside of the guy 726 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: to make a decision on fourth and goal from the 727 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 4: one yard line. So yeah, I would that would demote 728 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 4: him down to three even though this wasn't his fault. 729 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 4: But if i'm if i'm if I'm the quarterback, I'm 730 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, no, we can't call that. 731 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: So if you were on the field for a play 732 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: like that on fourth down, would would you like say, 733 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: what is that? 734 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: No, we're not doing that, like we're not running that. No, No, 735 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm here for reason. 736 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: Right, you have a six year quarterback of Michael Pennix 737 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: Junior who's put up Heisman numbers this year he has three. 738 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: Days kids a boat knicks. 739 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: By the way, he has had five years. He was 740 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: a full time starter for three years at Auburn before 741 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 2: going to Oregon. A lot of experience with these quarterbacks. 742 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 2: But I'm a one hundred I say this all the time. 743 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: It's like the Chargers. Every time they have one of 744 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 2: those fourth down plays from their own territory, they run 745 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: the ball and I'm like, why are you running the 746 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: ball when. 747 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 5: You have. 748 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: Now? Please? 749 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: He is please, and his justification like they got away 750 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: with it back to back weeks. 751 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 3: He's a client. 752 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 4: Look, I don't want to be disparaging to the man. Yeah, 753 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 4: but in my opinion put them in the category as 754 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: a Nathaniel Hackett as a head coach. Yeah, it's just 755 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: not his thing right now. 756 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: Well, again, if you're look at there's a place for analytics. 757 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: In other words, give me all the information. 758 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 4: You can give me a few places for analytics. Not 759 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 4: in all of the places. 760 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: No, But that's my point. My point is I want 761 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: to see the numbers, but those numbers aren't going to 762 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: be the deciding factor. 763 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 3: It can't be. 764 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: I've got to decide on a field for the game. 765 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: If the justification on using a play is because of 766 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: the analytics. Then my retort is, then why do I 767 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 2: need you? Anybody can stand there and look at the numbers. 768 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: Well, this laptop out and we're gonna let them coach 769 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 3: the team. 770 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: Right if all we have to do is go by 771 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: the numbers free, I don't have to pay a guy 772 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: millions of dollars to look at. 773 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 3: Numbers, absolutely right. 774 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: All right, So there it is. Uh, Washington does not 775 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: get in the end zone. Oregon still leads up by 776 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: a score of thirty three to two twenty nine. All right, 777 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: We got a lot more college football huge games coming 778 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: up and some thoughts on a busy NFL Sunday. 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We are broadcasting live from 786 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: the ti raq dot com studios, tyrack dot comer and 787 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: help get you there, and I'm att selection fast reshipping. 788 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: Free road has a protection over ten thousand recommended installers. 789 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: Ti IRAQ dot com the way tire buying should be 790 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: coming up here. In about a half an hour, USC 791 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: and Notre Dame will kick off. In my opinion, we 792 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,959 Speaker 2: talk about rivalries in college football. Whether you're talking about 793 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan, talking about Auburn, Alabama, go Old School, Yale, Harvard. 794 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's been an Army Navy. There's some great, 795 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: great rivalries that really make the college game stand out. 796 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 2: But in terms of which rivalry has produced the most 797 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: memorable matchups, the most memorable game's most memorable players in 798 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: a series that dates back to nineteen twenty five. 799 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 3: Is this San Diego State Fresno State. 800 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: It's close. Actually I'd almost go San Diego State, Wyoming 801 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: go to Larmie but or maybe Utah State and Logan. 802 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 2: But anyway here seriously, I mean these teams have schools 803 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: have combined for fifteen Heisman Trophy winners. This all started 804 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: with a friendship between Newt Rockney, coach at Notre Dame, 805 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: and Howard Jones, who was the coach at USC. Rockney 806 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: realized in trying to sort of create a national profile 807 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: for Notre Dame coming to LA every couple of years. 808 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: In exchange for sc coming to South Bend or actually 809 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Indiana. People don't know Notre Dame is not 810 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: located in South Bend, Indiana. It's actually Notre Dame, Indiana, 811 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: north of South Bend, Indiana. Did you know that? No 812 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: one knew that, but I I know that anyway. So, 813 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: but this is a rivalry I grew up with because 814 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: my dad went to USC and as much as he 815 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: loved beating UCLA, the Notre Dame game was bigger, bigger, 816 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: And so that's the way I was raised. That's the 817 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: way I grew up. And it's gonna be interests to 818 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: match up for Notre Dame, especially because Marcus Freeman comes in. 819 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: Everyone likes this guy. They've lost a couple of games 820 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 2: now that Ohio State game. Ten men on the field 821 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: at the end of that game. That wasn't a good look. 822 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: And last week five turnovers for Sam Hartman going up 823 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: against Louisville. Notre Dame needs this game. My name's sake, 824 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 2: he no longer. 825 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 3: You've thrown your nephew away. 826 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know him anymore, not after that game 827 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: last week. But I mean, I mean, they lose a 828 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: third game considering what the expectations are in Notre Dame. Yeah, 829 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 2: this is a much bigger game for Notre Dame. 830 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's a must win for them. 831 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 4: This is if they want to even have a shot 832 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 4: at being in the top five moving forward. This is 833 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 4: a must win. It's a rivalry game. You never know 834 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 4: what you're going to get with the rivalry game. It's 835 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 4: a long way for sc to travel. The environment is 836 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 4: going to be unbelievable. One of the best environments in 837 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 4: all of college college football. You can attest to that, 838 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 4: whether it's in South London or whether it's in North bed. 839 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 2: Wherever, wherever, Notre Dame, Indiana. 840 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. 841 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: By the way, I just found this out that that 842 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 2: Notre Dame campus is not sitting in South ben Indiana. 843 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: But you were there last year. I was there. 844 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 2: It was exactly a year ago in October that I 845 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: there for a week doing some research. No, this is 846 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 2: a great game and also it's gonna be an interesting 847 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: matchup because you look at Caleb Williams. Look when I'm 848 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: doing my Heisman update and you're asking me who is 849 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: the best college football player in the country, the best 850 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 2: college football player in the country is Caleb Williams. 851 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. 852 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: The problem for Caleb Williams is not Caleb Williams. The 853 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: problem for Caleb Williams is that he has saddled on 854 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 2: a team that has one of the worst defenses in 855 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: the country. Not just the Pac twelve, I mean, this 856 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: is one of the worst defenses in the country. So 857 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 2: that's and so I look at this matchup. I think 858 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: Notre Dame's the best defense he's gone up against. And 859 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 2: whatever ills that Sam Hartman had last week against Louisville, 860 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: nothing has cured quarterbacks better than playing against that USD. 861 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, even you know what, sc was able to give 862 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 4: up or willing to give up in the second half 863 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 4: of that Colorado game and almost made that thing an 864 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 4: upset in Colorado's favor. You'd think going into Notre Dame, 865 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 4: this is going to be one of those games where 866 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 4: they'll be hyper focused on the defensive side of the ball. 867 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is going to be Caleb Williams. We know 868 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 4: what that is, we know who he is. We've known 869 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 4: that since the last year when he won the Heisman. 870 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: Probably going to win the Heisman again this. 871 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 2: Year, but not if they lose two or three games. 872 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: No no, no, no. 873 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 4: If they can run the table and they find themselves 874 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 4: in the college football playoffs, Caleb Williams will be a 875 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: two time Heisman winner. 876 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: And by the way, going back to Archie Griffin, the 877 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: only two time heis and winner. The reason that Archie 878 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 2: won the second one as Ohio State was undefeated, rank 879 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: number one in the country. They ended up losing the 880 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl too u CLA, but that took him over 881 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: the top. He's a ragning heis and winner on the 882 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 2: number one ranked team that is undefeated. That's why Archie 883 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: Griffin won that second Heisman. So I agree with the 884 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 2: FSC runs a table, absolutely, But if they lose two 885 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 2: or three games, even in the end, if you say 886 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: he really is the best player. 887 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 4: Numbers are considerably better this year at this time than 888 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 4: they were last year. 889 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but they haven't played again. I think this 890 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: Notre Dame defense is going to give him I'm not 891 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: going to say him fits, but it's going to be 892 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 2: the best defense that he has faced all season long. 893 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: So that game is going to be kicking off here 894 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 2: in about a half hour. Another interesting game coming up 895 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 2: Miami and North Carolina. The tar Heels are undefeated. Remember 896 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 2: all the preseason hype with Drake May we didn't see 897 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: a lot of In the first four games, he had 898 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: five touchdowns and four picks, But last week three touchdowns 899 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: over four hundred yards passing. They're undefeated, and then there's Miami. 900 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: They have to figure out what the hell happened last week? 901 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh Georgia teg baby. 902 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: Mean not taking the knee? 903 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 904 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 2: What I mean? 905 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 4: Wow, when you look at situations like that, well, how does. 906 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 2: A team overcome something like that? Well, you gotta win, 907 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: and then you have to go on the road and chapel. 908 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 3: You gotta this is this? Is it? Right? 909 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 4: You have to overcome it immediately because your season hangs 910 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 4: in the balance. And up until then, Miami have been 911 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: playing good football. And now you're in a situation where 912 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 4: all the strides you've taken in the you know, the 913 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 4: first portion of the season could be all or not 914 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 4: over a goofy mistake like that. 915 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were undefeated, they were four and oh before 916 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 2: that week, and now. 917 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 4: So you gotta you gotta stack this loss behind five 918 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 4: more wins. 919 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: That's basically how it goes. 920 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 4: You gotta end this thing at ten and one and 921 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 4: and and right into the sunset and see where that 922 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 4: that takes you. So it's it's a lot of important 923 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 4: games coming up, man, a lot of very important games, 924 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 4: including that UCLA and Oregon State game, the battle of 925 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 4: as you put it, the defenses. 926 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 2: That is going to be an outstanding game. Oregon State 927 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 2: is legit. I thought going into the season they had 928 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 2: the best record or defense in the conference, but statistically 929 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: it's not close. UCLA has the best defense in the 930 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 2: Pac twelve, fifth in the nation and total defense second 931 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: in the nation. And rushing defense. What they did last 932 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 2: week to Washington State team that came in with the 933 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: number six offense, completely shut them down. By the way, 934 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: Oregon right now has the ball a little over two 935 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: minutes to go, right now in the fourth quarter of 936 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 2: the facing the third down play, So after stoning Washington 937 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: on one line, on the one yard. 938 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: Line, replays zero yards. 939 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, who is my current number one Heisman guy 940 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: so far today twenty seven to thirty five to ninety 941 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 2: nine yards under two touchdown snow picks. That guy's been good. 942 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 3: How do you not bo Nix's look? 943 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: Is he a next level guy? So Michael Pennick's junior, 944 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 2: because I you know, I was talking earlier to our 945 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 2: buddy Chris over here, and he goes, ah, hell, these 946 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: guys have been in college forever. 947 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 4: I've been in college for a long time, right, and 948 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 4: so you would think, okay, when watching them perform this year, 949 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 4: you would expect them to be at this level. They 950 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 4: both transferred, right, so they both had experience in other 951 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 4: conferences elsewhere. Yep, and there's you know, a learning curve 952 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 4: in college at quarterback. The more you play, the better 953 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 4: you are, you get better talent. 954 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 2: Well how about this easier Rock Purty four years starter 955 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 2: at Iowa. So of course, so when he came to 956 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: the NFL, he played a lot of football, a lot 957 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 2: of football opposed to. 958 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 4: A Trey Lance who played fifteen games of college. 959 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 3: Football at the FCS level ever, right. 960 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 4: And so yeah, you get to see that, Okay, the 961 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 4: more you play, And I think that's the most important 962 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 4: part when you're taking these young quarterbacks when the first 963 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 4: year they're eligiwa to college right, coming back to school, 964 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 4: unless you're a Caleb Williams, which he said he might 965 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 4: even hint at doing if the situation isn't. 966 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: Quick question here, If New England ends up with the 967 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 2: number one. 968 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 4: Pick in the draft, I'm doing it coming back to 969 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 4: and you were Caleb boys back to school? 970 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 2: Would you want to go to New England? 971 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. 972 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 2: And by the way, right now, the only winless team 973 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: is the Panthers. Remember they traded their number one pick 974 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 2: to the Bears. 975 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 3: To the Bears. 976 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 2: If you're the Bears and you have the number one 977 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 2: pick in the draft and Justin Fields, who's been playing 978 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: certainly better the last college take yeah, takeya Williams. He 979 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 2: still take Calo course. How about how about if you're 980 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: offered three number ones? 981 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 3: Oh, you take the three number ones. 982 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You take the three number If 983 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 2: I'm the Bears and I have the number one pick, 984 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 2: I say number one, everyone's the phone's ringing off the hook. 985 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: I go, well we start, we start with three with 986 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 2: three number ones. 987 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 4: That's the beat. That's where we were going to. That's 988 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 4: not the that's not the amount. 989 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 2: No, that's the starting starting, that's the starting. Because we 990 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: get more than one team involved in the bidding, obviously 991 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 2: that's going to go up three number ones. 992 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 993 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 2: Everyone keeps saying that Caleb Wings, No, he'll go to 994 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: the NFL. He's going to go straight to the NFL, 995 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 2: no matter what. 996 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I don't think he Look, he 997 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 4: can make his money. He can make the same amount 998 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 4: of money he'd make on his rookie for his first 999 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 4: year as a rookie. Oh yeah, in college. So why 1000 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 4: would he'll still be the number one pick in the. 1001 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 2: Draft, but the next year he would he'd have to 1002 00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: come out. 1003 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but he'll still be the number one pick. 1004 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 2: But it could be even a worse choice in the 1005 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 2: next year. A man, it is what it is, all right. 1006 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 2: So you say, no doing New England. 1007 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,720 Speaker 3: No, we can't do that. We don't do that. The Bears, 1008 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 3: that's a graveyard for quarterbacks. Yeah, we don't want to 1009 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 3: do Chicago's great city though. 1010 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 4: Denver, of course, Denver, that fan base. Oh, brother, Denvers, 1011 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 4: that's where That's where it's at, Sean Payton, that's where 1012 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 4: you want to be. 1013 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: Okay, there it is right there, all right. Speaking of 1014 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: the NFL, we'll give you a little sneak peek on 1015 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 2: some of the games coming up tomorrow. 1016 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 3: This is Fox Football Saturday. 1017 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 1: Snap Pennix to throw goes for the end zone. 1018 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 10: Off the left sideline, roll up to Zione, Tuckstown, Washington 1019 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 10: Works tuned up out. 1020 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 3: Of the scoreboard. What thirty eight to go and the 1021 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 3: Huskies take the lead. 1022 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 12: A Heisman moment for Michael Pennix and Roman Dukesai. 1023 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: Tony CASSISONI from lar Field. So just when we're all 1024 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 2: set to wrap up an Oregon victory up in Seattle, 1025 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 2: guess what happened. Oregon was at the Washington forty seven 1026 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: yard line, fourth and three with two sixteen to go, 1027 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 2: and they went for it incomplete pass gave the ball 1028 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: back to Washington. Two plays later, Washington in the end zone. 1029 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 2: They lead thirty six to thirty three. But this game 1030 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 2: is not over yet. Seventeen seconds to go and Oregon 1031 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 2: has gotten himself into field goal position to send this 1032 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: game into overtime. All right, once again, we're coming to 1033 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: live from the tire rack dot Com Studios. I gotta 1034 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,760 Speaker 2: stay with this game because both these quarterbacks Bo Nicks 1035 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 2: and Michael Pennix Junior, and I was going in the moment, 1036 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 2: So I guess Penix goes to number one in my 1037 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 2: Heisman chase. Stay tuned. He's got three hundred and two 1038 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: yards passing four touchdowns. Right now, bow Knicks is throwing 1039 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 2: the ball. They're ten nine seconds left. All right, they're 1040 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: very much in field goal range right now. How much 1041 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: are your risking here? 1042 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'm on that play with seventeen seconds left. 1043 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: Lust they do have a timeout left or they. 1044 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 3: Just stole because they faked an injury. Es you like that. 1045 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 4: What I would have done on that play the first 1046 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 4: down with seventeen seconds is I would have thrown it 1047 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 4: into the end zone. Now it's you just you just 1048 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 4: kicked the field goal. 1049 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 2: Well, they're going to run another play here, it's second 1050 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 2: and again right now the ball off. Well, last night 1051 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 2: when Stanford was in a position to wrap up the game, 1052 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 2: they just ran a quarterback right up the middle. You 1053 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 2: know a few times they you know, make sure it's 1054 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 2: in the center of the field, ready for a field 1055 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 2: goal at tabb another throw. That's it. They're going to 1056 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: attempt a field goal now, four seconds to go, third 1057 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 2: and ten, and Oregon will attempt a field goal to 1058 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: tie this game. So both nicks thirty three or forty three, 1059 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 2: three thirty seven yards, two touchdowns, no picks. Michael Pennix 1060 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 2: junior twenty two of thirty seven, three hundred and two yards, 1061 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 2: four touchdowns and one pick. So both these quarterbacks have 1062 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: certainly just defy their position as a Heisman contender with 1063 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 2: their performance. 1064 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 3: Your top three. 1065 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,919 Speaker 4: I could tell you that this has been a phenomenal game. 1066 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 4: Here we go, barring this kick, we're going to get 1067 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 4: some extra time. 1068 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 2: All right, So here we go. Right now, this will 1069 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 2: be Oregon attempting a field goal to tie this game. 1070 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: And the kick he blew it, he missed, no good, 1071 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 2: he missed. 1072 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 3: Wow. Game over game. 1073 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 2: Michael Penix Junior is your new Heisman leader with his 1074 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 2: three hundred two yard four touchdown performance against Oregon. 1075 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 3: A win for the Huskies. 1076 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 4: Ah, and people want to know why kickers are not 1077 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 4: considered part of the team. 1078 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 3: That was a makeable kick. He just pushed it to 1079 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 3: the right. 1080 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: Well hmmm mmmmmm okay, so uh be it all right? 1081 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 2: And I am sure our buddy Jeff Schwartz is just 1082 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: sinking in his chair like what just happened? 1083 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 3: What just happened? 1084 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 2: So Washington remains undefeated. Oregon suffers their first loss of 1085 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 2: the season. You know, I'm looking here at the rankings, Ephraim. 1086 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 2: You have Georgia one, Michigan two, Ohio State three, Florida 1087 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: State for Oklahoma five. Do you and Penn State six. 1088 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: Do you believe that Florida State and Oklahoma are better 1089 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 2: than Washington? I mean, where would you have Washington? 1090 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 3: I would put them on par I would put them 1091 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 3: on par with Washington. 1092 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,399 Speaker 2: All right, So, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, three Big 1093 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: Ten teams. 1094 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 3: Do you believe that shakeout? Because well, they have to 1095 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 3: face each other. 1096 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: But on the whole, do you believe that the Pac 1097 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 2: twelve is stronger than the Big Ten this season? 1098 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 3: On the whole? 1099 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 4: Yes, because of at the quarterback position, right, So I 1100 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: would I would say yes to that because when you 1101 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 4: see these top teams in the Pac twelve, they legitimately 1102 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 4: have next level quarterbacks, right and I Heisman Canada quarterbacks. 1103 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 4: And I think that's why you see such dynamic play 1104 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 4: with the Pac twelve teams. Now, similar to Penn State 1105 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 4: and Ohio State and Michigan, the Pac twelve is going 1106 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 4: to have to eat each other. So this thing is 1107 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 4: going to shake out, like if you get a matchup 1108 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 4: like this, if we continue to consistently get matchups like 1109 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 4: this in the Pack twelve for the remainder of the 1110 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 4: PAC twelve season, will it's coming down to two Dueland 1111 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 4: quality quarterbacks and a walk off field goal. That's meant 1112 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 4: like that, right to me, you don't penalize the team 1113 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 4: for going toe to toe. They're ranked seven and eighth 1114 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 4: in the country, right that's where they belong, and they 1115 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 4: played a game where they're ranked seven and eighth in 1116 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 4: the country. 1117 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 2: If I were to take a quarterback outside of the 1118 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 2: Pac twelve to sneak them in to the Heightsman top 1119 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 2: two right now, it would probably be Dylan Gabriel at Oklahoma, 1120 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: whose numbers are on par over seventy percent completion, sixteen touchdowns, 1121 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: a couple of picks. Obviously got the big win against Texas, 1122 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 2: so he might be one of those guys that sneaks 1123 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: into the Heisman chase a right, So there you go. 1124 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,959 Speaker 2: A great game there about four minutes away of kicking 1125 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 2: off that USC Notre Dame game. Looking forward to that matchup, 1126 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 2: all right, I want to get back to some NFL 1127 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 2: talk for a moment here. I haven't had a chance 1128 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 2: to talk to you about this. We did talk to 1129 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan about the New England situation seventy two to three. 1130 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, twenty fourth year as the 1131 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: coach of the Patriots and in back to back weeks, 1132 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 2: he suffers his worst losses ever thirty five points and 1133 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 2: thirty four points. I mean, it's one thing to lose 1134 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 2: at Dallas thirty eight to three. Lose at home to 1135 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 2: New Orleans who had only scored four offensive touchdowns in 1136 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 2: four weeks, thirty four to nothing. 1137 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 4: You know what this is telling me that Bill Belichick 1138 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 4: is losing the locker room. It's telling me that because 1139 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 4: this whole mystique of the Patriots way, this is the 1140 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 4: way we do things. It's easy to sell that message 1141 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 4: when you got a Tom Brady in the building and 1142 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 4: he's adhering to that, when you have a Gronkowski in 1143 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 4: the building, when you're winning games. But when you remove 1144 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 4: those things and people can see the holes in the 1145 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 4: Patriots way and they don't believe you, then you lose 1146 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 4: the locker room. Let me ask you, and that's what 1147 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 4: we're seeing right now. 1148 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 2: In your thirteen seasons in the National Football League, how 1149 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 2: many times did you walk off the field a winner 1150 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 2: and say, the reason we we won this game is 1151 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 2: that guy, our head coach. Oh, he's the reason we 1152 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 2: won this game. Wasn't anything we did, it's what he 1153 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 2: did that we ended up winning this game. Now as 1154 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 2: a rookie, you had a great coach who I believe 1155 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 2: belongs in the Hall of Fame. 1156 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 4: Dan Reeves absolutely belongs in the Hall of Fame. I'll 1157 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 4: tell you this the key to being a great coach 1158 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 4: and the first thing the first game. First time me 1159 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 4: answer your question. The first game that popped into my 1160 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 4: mind was a Christmas Eve game, I think it was 1161 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 4: seven against the Peyton Manning and the Colts in Houston, 1162 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 4: and our game plan going into that was Gary came 1163 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 4: into our offensive meeting room, Gary Gary Kubiak. It said, 1164 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 4: if we're going to win this game, it's up to 1165 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 4: you guys up front the often of line. We're going 1166 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 4: to run the ball. We're going to eat up the 1167 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 4: time of possession. If it's thirty nine, we're gonna get nickel, 1168 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 4: We're gonna run the ball. If it's third and eight, 1169 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 4: third and seven, prepare to run the ball. That game, 1170 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 4: Ron Day had over one hundred and fifty yards rushing. 1171 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 4: We won the game on a last second Chris Brown 1172 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 4: fifty four yard field goal. Like Gary was adamant about 1173 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 4: calling the game and sticking to the game plan that 1174 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 4: we practice and he called so I'm like, it's very 1175 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 4: easy to stray away from that as in real time 1176 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 4: when things are happening. 1177 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 2: So is that one of those situations you get to 1178 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: the locker room. Ever, he's excited and all of a sudden, 1179 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 2: the players look at the coach say. 1180 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 3: The game. The game ball. 1181 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 4: Because he stuck to it, it's easy to want to 1182 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 4: pass the ball on the field, right, He was like, 1183 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 4: this is what we need to do. And it worked 1184 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 4: as as unconventional as it may have seemed at the time. 1185 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 4: You got Andre Johnson out there on the wing like 1186 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 4: all of that, and it worked. 1187 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now? 1188 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I was I didn't I wasn't sure if Brian Finley 1189 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 2: was trying to make out with my driver's license, credit 1190 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 2: card and the keys to my car which he uncovered 1191 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 2: in the bathroom and I made a quick change, or 1192 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 2: if he was still here. 1193 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 9: Well, you know the Ford pinto that you have, I 1194 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 9: was going to take it for a spin. 1195 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Although see now I'm saddened with that stupid BMW thing. 1196 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Remember I used to have my smart car. 1197 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you have now? 1198 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 2: Well, one hundred and seventy thousand miles. I finally had 1199 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 2: to lay it to rest. 1200 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the problem was. 1201 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't get parts for it anymore because it was 1202 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: the last gas smile slowly up. So did you hire 1203 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 2: a new driver? No, I took my son's BMW that 1204 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 2: I bought. So that's yeah, because usually you have a driver. 1205 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: So I was just there's no driver. You know, I 1206 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 2: love to drive. Nobody drives more than that. I just 1207 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: I just did another round trip to Arizona. I mean 1208 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 2: I have It's no exaggeration. I have driven over a 1209 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 2: million miles in my life. That's how much you've. 1210 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 9: Probably been on the air. A million hours. 1211 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 2: It seems like there's no end to it. 1212 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 3: It just goes r. 1213 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Never. 1214 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 9: Oh, by the way, let's get right to the college 1215 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 9: football here. Obviously, the big story that come from behind 1216 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 9: win for number seven Washington against number eight Oregon thirty 1217 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 9: six to thirty three. Michael Pennix Junior with a late 1218 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 9: touchdown throw and the Ducks had a chance a forty 1219 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 9: three yard field goal at the end of the second half, 1220 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 9: but Camden Lewis pulled it just a little bit right, 1221 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 9: missed it and staying perfect are the dogs and everybody 1222 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 9: rushing the field afterwards as they're playing that one at 1223 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 9: home six and oh on the season is Kalen de 1224 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 9: Bor's squad six and oh is where number three Ohio 1225 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 9: State is forty seven after their win against Perdue, Number 1226 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 9: two Michigan stays perfect fifty two to seven. A takedown 1227 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 9: against Indiana. First rank Georgia found a way to repel 1228 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 9: vander Built thirty seven to twenty and Bulldogs quarterback Carson 1229 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 9: Beck had two hundred sixty one yards passing one touchdown 1230 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 9: and one interception. Mike Norvell and number four Florida State 1231 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 9: flooring it passed Sarrahcuse forty one to three, six and 1232 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 9: zero go the Seminoles six and one go number eleven Alabama. 1233 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 9: They got scared at the end there nearly coughed up 1234 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 9: a lead, Arkansas holding it close, but it was twenty 1235 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 9: four to twenty one in Tuscaloosa in favor of the 1236 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 9: Crimson tie to win for sixteenth rank Utah by twenty 1237 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 9: thirty four to fourteen. And a PAC twelve showdown against 1238 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 9: cal Number six Penn State just demolishes UMass sixty three 1239 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 9: to nothing. A win for number nineteen Tennessee twenty to 1240 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 9: three against Texas A and M and Jimbo Fisher and 1241 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 9: one upset. There weren't many so far. Oklahoma State thirty nine, 1242 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 9: number twenty three, Kansas thirty two, so OSU gets the 1243 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 9: big win. That's their second win in conference. And of 1244 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 9: course coming up here in a matter of moments, the 1245 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 9: number twenty one Notre Dame Fighting Irons hosting number ten USC. 1246 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 9: But he from and Steve as I sent it back 1247 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 9: to you. 1248 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 3: We know that. 1249 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a great game. But there's another game talk 1250 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 9: at the top of the hour. 1251 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 3: Yes onan Diego State in Hawaii. 1252 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Ucla Oregon State. Well, San Diego State won 1253 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 2: another game this year, four game losing streak. What happened 1254 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 2: at air Force? Hey man, Holy Max, I. 1255 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 3: Can't I don't even get me started. We don't have 1256 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 3: enough time in the show. 1257 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 2: Just unbelievable. All right, b fan, and you will be 1258 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 2: a post game locally after that Ucla Oregon State game, 1259 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 1260 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 3: That is right? Brewin talk. 1261 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 9: It'll be about an hour or so after the lear 1262 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 9: Field post game. But then we'll do an hour of 1263 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 9: Brewin Talk and we'll be taking calls, so Ephram and 1264 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 9: Steve and company. I expect you guys to call in. 1265 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 2: And I was tempted the other day to call you, 1266 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 2: but honestly, I was so entranced by everything you were saying, 1267 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't move. It's incapable of actually calling you. Is unbelievable. 1268 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 2: A great job, beef In is always thank you so much. 1269 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Once again, we're coming alive from the Tirak dot com studios. 1270 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 2: I one game I wanted to ask you about coming 1271 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 2: up this week. It's actually not tomorrow. It's going to 1272 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 2: be the Monday night game Chargers are hosting the Cowboys. 1273 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 3: I say hosting. 1274 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 2: It literally will be ninety percent Cowboy fans at SOFI Stadium. 1275 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 2: I mean that's no exaggeration, maybe even one hundred percent, 1276 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 2: but at least ninety. 1277 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 3: Percent Cowboy fans. Is that the Monday night game. 1278 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 2: That's the Monday night game. 1279 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 3: So game the I was going to. 1280 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 2: I was gonna take my boys because we go to 1281 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: a Charger game every year. Because my younger son's a 1282 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 2: huge Chargers fan. We have decided to go to the 1283 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 2: Chargers Raiders game in Vegas this year, which is coming 1284 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 2: up in December. Okay, so because I want to see 1285 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Allegiant Stadium. But let's get back to this game. The 1286 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 2: Cowboys went into that four game, at least what we 1287 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 2: heard Dak Prescott say after the game, with great expectations, 1288 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is desperate to go to another super Bowl. 1289 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 2: It's almost thirty years now since their last Super Bowl appearance, 1290 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight years to be exact, is Dak Prescott a quarterback? 1291 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 3: No go ahead finish? 1292 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 2: They can get this team? No to where Jerry Jones 1293 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 2: wants to get him? No, what's missing? 1294 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 3: Mistake free football? 1295 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: Because he played so well early in his career, he 1296 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 2: had that injury. Maybe he hasn't been one hundred percent 1297 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 2: since then. 1298 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1299 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 4: Well, it was similar to Tony Romo. When you look 1300 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 4: at Tony Romo. The talent is there, but what was 1301 01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 4: the thing that Tony Romo didn't have to take them 1302 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 4: to that next level no matter how good the team was, 1303 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 4: And they've had some good teams, just like Dak has 1304 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 4: had some good teams. There's a thing, right And even 1305 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 4: though we look at brock Party and his small sample size, Yes, 1306 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 4: the thing we're talking about is I see it in Brock. 1307 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 4: You don't make unnecessary mistakes, so you're not going to 1308 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 4: stack the deck against you or your team. There are 1309 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 4: no bad teams in the playoffs. So when you get 1310 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 4: there and you turn the ball over, now you're stacking 1311 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 4: the deck against your team. This is what we're seeing. 1312 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 4: We just watched it happen on Sunday night football. You're playing, 1313 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:01,799 Speaker 4: you had some creampuffs the first quarter of the season, 1314 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 4: right then you run into the real team. Jesse happens 1315 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 4: to be the best team in the league, with the 1316 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 4: defense and an offensive line that wouldn't let you run 1317 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 4: rough shot on the opposing quarterback. 1318 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cowboys are beating the Giants, the Jets, and 1319 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,520 Speaker 2: the Patriots. 1320 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 3: Hey man, so has everybody else. 1321 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 2: And they lost to Arizona, only team to do that, 1322 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 2: and got humiliated by the forty nine ers. 1323 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 4: And so now you're like, oh, okay, well what is 1324 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 4: the problem. Dak talked about how personal this game was 1325 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 4: and the playoff loss last year and so on and 1326 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 4: so forth. But what happens is you put yourself in 1327 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:49,719 Speaker 4: a situation where the lights become hot, they become bright, 1328 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 4: and they burn. And that's a lot of pressure, as 1329 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins, and that's the vein I put Dak Prescott 1330 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 4: without the real arm talent like Kirk Cousin has because 1331 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 4: burn up throwing for six thousand yards this year. But 1332 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 4: the decision making and the ability to lead when it's needed. 1333 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 4: It's easy to play from behind. It's easy when your 1334 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 4: defensive scoring points for you. It's easy when they're sacking 1335 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 4: the quarterback eight times a game. But if you take 1336 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 4: that away, which is the level of competition you'll be 1337 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 4: facing in the playoffs, then as the quarterback, you must 1338 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 4: rise above it. We've seen brock Purty do it. We've 1339 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 4: never seen Dak Prescott do it. 1340 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is morphing into Philip Rivers a second. 1341 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 3: That's not his fault. 1342 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: He is putting up numbers. 1343 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 3: That's not his fault. 1344 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 2: He shows up every week. Philip Rivers had a Haul 1345 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 2: of Fame number oh yeah, but may not get into 1346 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame because he had a decade in 1347 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 2: which he lost more games than he won. 1348 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 4: If they don't get rid of Brandon Staley, they are 1349 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 4: going to turn him in tryan Leef. 1350 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 3: Ryan leave Philip Rivers. They are going to turn him 1351 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 3: into that. 1352 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, like a really good quarterback who he. 1353 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 3: Could be one of the best quarterbacks. This kid has 1354 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 3: the it. 1355 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 2: Factor, But a couple of times he's failed late Yeah, 1356 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,520 Speaker 2: you gotta look at his situations. 1357 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, his coaches put him in Yeah. Think about that. 1358 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 4: Think about if you constantly had a coach that puts 1359 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 4: you in stressful, dire situations constantly for your entire time 1360 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 4: you've been in the league. You want to talk about 1361 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 4: building bad habits, are trying to bail someone out because 1362 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 4: they made a bonehead play or call. That's what's happening 1363 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 4: in his developmental years. 1364 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,600 Speaker 2: I still do not understand why when they're going for 1365 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 2: these fourth and one, fourth and two's deep in their 1366 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 2: own territory late in the game that they're leading, you 1367 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 2: have a six foot six quarterback, why are you not 1368 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 2: running him? We see the Eagles run that scrum. Why 1369 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 2: isn't every team doing that? 1370 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 5: Why? 1371 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 2: Why is it the Eagles have only the only team 1372 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 2: in this league to have figured out how to successfully 1373 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 2: run that push play for a first down every single time. 1374 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1375 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 2: I mean to me, that would be priority one if 1376 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 2: I was an offensive coordinator trying to figure out how 1377 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 2: to design a play, because how many times in a 1378 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 2: third and short or fourth and short do you want 1379 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 2: to absolutely one hundred percent get that yard? That push 1380 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 2: play is a guarantee guarantee. 1381 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, so much so they try. I mean they talked 1382 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 4: about outlawed it, banning it, well, they but they didn't. 1383 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 4: They didn't because there's a football to. 1384 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni is like, if they're not gonna ban it, 1385 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 2: we're gonna perfect it. I mean, you see every time 1386 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,839 Speaker 2: they do that play, they get stoned when the ball snapped, 1387 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 2: but the whistle doesn't blow and then they shove Jalen 1388 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 2: Hurts forward first down. All right, we're gonna have some 1389 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 2: final thoughts on all the games tomorrow. Some of the 1390 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 2: best plays of the day. This is Fox Football Saturday 1391 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 2: and Camden Lewis. 1392 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 10: From the middle of the field, will try. 1393 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: A forty two yarder on the season. 1394 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 10: He's six for seven coming into today, and he made 1395 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 10: one earlier as well. This from forty two. Good snap, 1396 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 10: good hold, kick us on the way, kick us up 1397 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 10: end over and kick. 1398 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 3: Did miss down right, didn't miss him. 1399 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 12: I don't believe it, Kim, I don't believe it. 1400 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: It's pandemonium at Husky Stadium. You're not keeping them off 1401 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: the field. Here Washington thirty. 1402 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 12: Six, Oregon thirty three. 1403 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 11: In a classic. 1404 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 2: Wow, that is Tony Cassoni there from Lair field, Washington 1405 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 2: Counts are behind and then hangs on defeat Oregon thirty 1406 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 2: six to thirty three. The Huskies remain undefeated. That's our 1407 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 2: Progressive play of the day, brought to by Progressive Insurance. 1408 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multiple C 1409 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, a TV and more. 1410 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 2: All your protection one place bundling, Say at Progressive dot com. 1411 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 2: Steve Harmony from salam We are Fox Football Saturday Live 1412 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 2: from the ti Raq dot com studios. Of course, want 1413 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,799 Speaker 2: to thank our crew today. Lorena has become a grizzled 1414 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 2: veteran in a very short amount of time here. Christle 1415 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: is not a good word for Lorena, but she's performing 1416 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:12,919 Speaker 2: like a veteran under immense pressure. Brandon, of course, our producer, 1417 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 2: puts on under pressure. He expects the best out of everyone. 1418 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 2: As far as Brian Fainily is concerned. 1419 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 3: Who knows he's left, So there he is. 1420 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 2: Befen has gone, guys, quite a day. 1421 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 3: What a I mean? 1422 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 2: That washing Oregon game, that great game of the year, 1423 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 2: Man's game of the year so far, two great quarterbacks, 1424 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Panis and Nicks going toe to toe. We are watching 1425 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: right now the USC Notre Dame game. US, he's got problems. 1426 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 2: So Caleb Williams on the opening drive through a pick 1427 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 2: and it was returned all the way down to the 1428 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 2: USC twelve yard line and Notre Dame punched him from 1429 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 2: their short touchdown pass from Sam Hartman. So Notre Dame 1430 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,599 Speaker 2: leads seven to nothing, and they just had a three 1431 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 2: and out for SC. So I told you before, this 1432 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 2: is going to be the best defense that USC has 1433 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 2: faced this year. And Notre Dame coming off that huge 1434 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,799 Speaker 2: disappointment of a second loss on the season to Louisville 1435 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 2: last week, at least early on, they're fired up right now. 1436 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, because they understand the importance of this game when 1437 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 4: it pertains to the rest of their season and them 1438 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,440 Speaker 4: having a viable way into. 1439 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 3: The college football playoffs. 1440 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 2: Two losses is tough. 1441 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 3: It's very tough. 1442 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very tough, but it's impossible with three, right, Yes, 1443 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 4: So they understand beating the team in the top ten, 1444 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,720 Speaker 4: a team like see, a rivalry team, is important to 1445 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 4: what they want to do and what they want to 1446 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 4: get accomplished in terms of their goals for the season. 1447 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 2: And what we're watching again is that Caleb Williams is 1448 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,600 Speaker 2: being victimized in a sense that he almost has to 1449 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 2: score every time he has the ball because s he 1450 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 2: has no defense. They can't stop the run, they can't 1451 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 2: stop the pass. They seemingly have holes throughout their defense, 1452 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 2: which has been a criticism of Lincoln Riley going back 1453 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 2: to his Oklahoma days. You know, he's great with skill guys, and. 1454 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 3: They're soft. 1455 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 2: This is the biggest shock to a lot of my 1456 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 2: USC friends that obviously are psyched that you know, at 1457 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 2: least they're relevant again. 1458 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,679 Speaker 3: But they're like, where's the physical play? I think USC football? 1459 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 3: I think physical right. 1460 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 2: I mean, if you go back to student body left, 1461 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 2: student body right, that's the that's only they used to 1462 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 2: have first round picks out of that offensive. 1463 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:31,799 Speaker 3: Guys. 1464 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 2: But that is not USC football right now. So USC 1465 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,840 Speaker 2: trailing Notre Dame early in this game by a score 1466 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 2: of seven to nothing. All right, let's get back to 1467 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,839 Speaker 2: a couple of games tomorrow. One game is the Sunday 1468 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 2: night matchup between the Bills and the Giants. Let's start 1469 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 2: with the Giants. Are they really this bad? 1470 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 1471 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,599 Speaker 2: I mean the Giants could end up with the number 1472 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,479 Speaker 2: one overall pick. 1473 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, what do you do with a quarterback that 1474 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 3: you yeah, he gotta go hit him. 1475 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 2: Gone, you can't, you can't. 1476 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 3: No, You're gonna eat it, take it, goodbye, eat it. 1477 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 3: Hey man, that's a big eat. 1478 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 2: Forty million a year. 1479 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 3: That's their fault for creating this situation. 1480 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 2: See how didn't you think though Brian Dable was the 1481 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 2: kind of coach. 1482 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 4: No way, I give uh Daniel Jones forty million dollars 1483 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 4: a year and give sa Kwon Barkley eight if we 1484 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 4: were going to spend the money. I'm giving Sa Kwon 1485 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 4: Barkley the deal and I'm franchising Daniel Jones. 1486 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's ran into a problem last week in London. 1487 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 2: I was there, so that's right, you were there. So 1488 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 2: Jacksonville stayed in London. They had back to back games. 1489 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 3: It made a difference. 1490 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 2: It was obvious because Buffalo seemed to be completely out 1491 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 2: of sorting game. 1492 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 4: I still haven't recovered. Uh, and I've been back since Monday. 1493 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 4: That said, that's nine hours. 1494 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh I know. 1495 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, Jacksonville, as they get ready this 1496 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 2: week to play, I haven't been sitting in London for 1497 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. They're hosting the Colts who 1498 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 2: By the way, and I'm a big Anthony Richardson guy. 1499 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 2: It's not a huge drop off with Gardner Minshew, No, 1500 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 2: it's not. But the Jags have been saying since they 1501 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 2: got back they're feeling that. I mean, they've been there 1502 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 2: two weeks. 1503 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 3: Tough. It's tough. 1504 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 2: That is a long Why are their games in London? 1505 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 3: Explain again there will be a team in London. 1506 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem possible. 1507 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 3: It will be. It is the NFL. It doesn't make 1508 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,640 Speaker 3: any sense. The NFL league passes on YouTube. Does that 1509 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 3: makes sense? 1510 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,600 Speaker 2: By the way, I have an amazing staff for you. 1511 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 3: C J. 1512 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 2: Stroud is the first quarterback to start five games in 1513 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,559 Speaker 2: his NFL career and not yigs, no picks. 1514 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 3: It's good. 1515 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 4: He's good man. The Texans hit. They hit with their draft. 1516 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 4: They had excellent draft. They hit with their coach, their 1517 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 4: young players. 1518 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:53,360 Speaker 3: This is a team. 1519 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 4: I was there the week before there. The week before that, 1520 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 4: I was in Houston for alumni weekend. 1521 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 2: Panthers have buyer's remort, Sir Bryce Young, He's just small. 1522 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 2: He's small, isn't he? And I love Bryce Young? Keep 1523 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 2: it here much for coming up on Fox Sports Radio.