WEBVTT - The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:07.080 What's sending Sophie today's script because the episode it started, Sophie, 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.280 the episode is started. We can't stop it now, it's 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.720 all I We're going, We're this is all in the episode. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.360 Hell yeah, I'm hitting record right now, recorded seconds ago. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.239 You were the work, You are the war. Chris can 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.479 figure it out, man, this is how it's going. We're doing. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:31.400 We're seconds into it. By you got catch the magic. Okay, magic, 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.239 you gotta catch it. Discrepancies happened, Thank you everybody. Um, 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.880 this is behind the bastards. The podcast that is introduced 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.680 like a piece of ship. Um, mother, don't say that. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.840 Some some could say that introducing it listen so the whole. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.400 Some could say that the producer don't come from my name. Listen. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:01.040 But pieces of ship are produced effortlessly. It's actually quite 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.600 mad produced. They are saying that is true. Though, that 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.360 is true. Your body is magical, Pint. I would like, yeah, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.440 I wasn't calling you a piece of ship, Sophie. I 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.399 was saying, my introduction was done like a piece of ship. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:19.960 But well, your your your your, your competence is at 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.640 war with my incompetence and generally edges it out by 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.479 a slight margin, but not today. Today in competence wins, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.760 which is ties into the theme of the episode. This 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.280 is behind the Bastards show about bad people, the worst 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.240 ones in all of history. Um, and some other stuff too. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.400 Sometimes like today we're not talking well, we are talking 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.399 about some bad people, but we're also talking about a 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.679 bad thing that happened with our guest Jason Petty a 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:51.160 k A prop what's the words? We network, but we 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.320 are network buddies. You and I are now are now 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:59.560 co workers colleagues, which I think means, if I understand 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.600 corporate law, we can't be called upon to testify against 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:09.240 one another. I wouldn't testify on you anyway. But now 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.680 I'm glad that it's in. I'm glad that it's in. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:17.760 It's in writing now and broken by Yeah, being on 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.240 the same podcast network you want to talk about, Um, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.280 well it's not your new show, it's your old show. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.519 But but now it's on our network. Yeah, it's got 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.120 a got a jetpack in it, hood politics with problem 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.440 man Like, Yes, I'm so excited to bring this to 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.480 the team and have y'alls like input into like how 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.080 to make it as as as dope as possible. Yeah, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.120 it's politics is gangbanging in nice suits. I think so 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.680 many times in the same way that like what this 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:48.040 pod does, which is like brings everybody to the table 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.360 so that now we all have shared information agreed upon 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.960 about you know, what's happening in the world and how 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.760 we got there. I think it's the same with with politics. Man, 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.840 I'm just look, they just speak a different language. They're 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.600 not smartyr than you. So I'm just here to not 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.120 give commentary but analysis so that you know what you're 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.280 looking at and that cannot by trick you into thinking 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.560 that this isn't something you don't already know and understands 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:16.760 that that's how politics. The Joe Biden's from Long Beach episode, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.400 Oh yes, the Joe Biden's from Long Beach episode I 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.240 really have enjoyed in your show is how you explain 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:30.080 Mitch McConnell, because he really has to be explained in 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.040 like ganganging terms to really get how McConnell goes like. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.160 It didn't make sense. It took me so long to 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.280 put a finger on it. Then I was like, oh, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.520 you're just a hustler. Did all make sense? Mm hmm, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.360 Well we're talking about we're actually gonna talk about some 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.360 gang ship. Today, We're going to talk about some um, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.440 some horrible ship. We're gonna talk about the triangle shirtwaist fire. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.560 Have you ever heard of this prop Nope? Okay, this 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:05.640 is uh moments, this is a good one. This is 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:11.040 a horrible industrial disaster in the United States, so properly 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.320 the idea that human beings would get their clothing almost 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:18.120 exclusively from stores, uh, and stores that were themselves stocked 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.479 by massive factories that produce clothing at scale. That's pretty new. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.160 Didn't used to be that way for most of human history, right. Uh, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:31.119 your ancient Romans, you know, your your, your, your, your Macedonians, Uh, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:36.680 your Carthaginians, your han China, They're not not walking into 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.200 a department store and buying a bunch of like identical 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.920 pairs of shorts. Didn't work that way. No ancient Seers markets, 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.719 No ancient Seers markets. Um. There there is a free 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.799 people buried with the Library of Alexandria. But if that's 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.880 ever uncovered, a plague will will be unleashed upon the world. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.039 That will lend all of society. Um. But yeah, not not. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.320 Not a lot of mass produced clothing back in the 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.960 day in fact in the United States and sevente which 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.279 is not all that long ago, right, I've drinking bars 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.440 in Europe that are older than that. History's greatest monster, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.440 Alexander Hamilton's estimated that between two thirds and four fifths 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.800 of all clothing in the new United States was homemade. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.520 So basically everything's people had on their bodies in the 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.560 early US was something that like a family member, Yeah, 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.360 Mama made it. Yeah, mama made its, sister made or 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.000 whatever grandma. Um. Now, that state of affairs didn't start 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.279 to change until the mid eighteen forties with the development 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.640 of the modern sewing machine. But what really shifted matters 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.880 in the United States, at least was the Civil War. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.400 Because during the Civil War, right, you got you got 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.800 all these assholes wanted to keep doing a slavery. You've 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.320 got these guys who are generally less assholes want to 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.400 stop them, and they can script About two million men 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.120 the about two million men joined the Union Army over 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.000 the course of that war, and all those guys, Um, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.760 all those guys need uniforms, right, um, and two million dudes, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.040 you're not gonna hand sew all that ship, especially since 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.280 half these motherfucker's are dropping dead right out of that. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.880 You know, how about we just make thirty of them 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.719 and when you die, we just take your pants, all yeah, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.280 we just take your pants. Take a share. Um yeah. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.839 So these guys uh need mass produced uniforms, and a 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.080 lot of them are a lot of them are immigrants, right. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.760 That's one of the big things about the Union side 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.880 a ship. Some of these guys are Irish or German 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.520 because those are like where people are coming to the 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.479 United States from. Um. And so most of these people 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.680 had been dirt poor for most of their lives. They 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.440 had like one or two sets of clothing that they owned, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.840 and it was stuff that like their family made and maintained. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.120 Suddenly they joined the military and they get these mass 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:44.240 produced uniforms and standardized sizes. Um. Now, and this is 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.120 probably for most of them, the first mass produced clothing 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.520 on their body. And today you know, you you brag that, like, 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.880 oh this this shirt's handmade. Right, My pants were like 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.599 hands sown, and that's a that's a mark of higher 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.480 quality than like a factory made piece of clothing. Not 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.200 necessarily the case back then, right, because your clothing is 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.400 often made by mom or dad or grandma or siss 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:08.720 and they're not always good at it, you know. Yeah, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:14.080 people aren't good at most things. So like, yeah, that's crazy. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.679 You know what I think about, like just how culture 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.840 has just continues to evolve, like we you know, in 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.840 the fifties, we had to teach America to throw stuff away, 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.480 like you know, and and just the idea of recycling 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.680 and stuff like that. Like I thought about the Milkman 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.240 troupe and I was like, dude, you had glass bottles 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.440 and a dude came to the house and refilled them. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:43.040 I'm like, yo, that's some like Silicon Valley like greenery 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.040 fools are bragging about having their own chickens, you know, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.120 Like that's like I got chickens, I make eggs. And 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.800 I'm like, dog, this this is not a flex do 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.400 you know what I'm saying? Like this is what culture 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.360 was for centuries, you know. So yeah, so hearing this 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.000 is like reminds me of that. Yeah, I actually never 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.120 thought of that, Like my mom made this wetter. Yeah 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.800 I can tell maybe, yeah, I can see that. Um, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.760 I'm sure some of these clothes was but for a 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.640 lot of these soldiers, not only was this their first 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.160 mass produced clothing, but it was the highest quality clothing 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.240 they'd ever worn, and it was the best fitting clothing 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.200 because it had been like specifically, there were standardized sizes 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.080 that were you know, it was a lot of folks 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.320 kind of left the military after the Civil War with 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.680 a real appreciation for manufactured clothing and a desire to 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.560 to own more of it. Um So in the eighteen seventies, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.000 the cutter's knife revolutionized the garment industry again. This was 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.439 a mass produced utility knife, a kind of a box 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.880 cutter's type device, razor sharp, and it allowed skilled users 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.880 to cut out pieces that can then be sewn into 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.960 hundreds of identical garments. So we get the sewing machine. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:51.720 The Civil War gives a lot of people a taste 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.080 for homemade clothing than in the eighteen seventies. They had 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.480 been a new kind of knife that lets you much 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.920 more quickly mass produce quality garments. By the eighteen eighties, 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.400 all of the necessary technology for a clothes making revolution 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.120 had been invented. The living missing was dirt, cheap, easily 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.880 replaceable labor, which, if you know anything about clothing is 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:17.240 made today, is a critical part of cheap clothes. Truly, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:22.000 nothing new we needed. We've got everything but suffering poor 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.480 immigrants to make sense, we could find people that we 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.880 don't gotta pay, that could do this all day for 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:34.600 good news. Right around that time, a shipload of new 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.679 immigrants start coming into the United States. Now when we're 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.080 talking about the garment industry, it's about a third of 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.520 these people are Italian. About two thirds of them are 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.200 Jews from Eastern Europe. UM. And the the Italians who 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.600 come in that flood the garment industry are are from 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.040 southern Italy. About one point two million of these people 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.800 immigrant to the United States net in the first decade 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.520 of the nineteen hundreds UM. And then you know the remainder, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.880 about two million people are Jews from Eastern Europe, and 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.920 both groups of refugees would heavily dominate the new garment industry. UM. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.839 These people were willing to work and able to work 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.440 for very cheap because they were completely destitute. They were 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.000 fleeing disasters, in different kinds of disasters. In the case 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.760 of the Italians, that disaster was a man made ecological 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.320 tragedy that will not sound familiar to anybody listening to 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.200 this podcast and will never happen again anywhere in the world, Like, 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.319 for example, the place where most Americans live. So I'm 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.360 gonna read a quote from a book by journalist Dave 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.719 von Drell quote. The end of feudalism and of the 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.360 papal states in the nineteenth century put millions of acres 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.240 of Italian land in private hands. Nearly every new owner 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.760 made the same decision to cut down the trees, hoping 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.280 to sell the lumber and expand the fields. The result 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.360 was massive soil erosion along the hillsides of once beautiful 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:52.720 southern provinces like Calabria, Basilicata, Apulia, and Campania. Top soil 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.480 washed into the rivers, ruining the farm economy. When the 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.319 silted rivers flooded in the wet winter months, they created low, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.400 stagnant pools and swamps, which and turn bread mosquitoes, which 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.760 produced epidemics of malaria. Without trees to hold the top soil, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.680 what had been a tenuously balanced ecology became a strange 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.640 and deadly combination of tropical disease and desert like aridity. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.360 Conditions were worse on the island of Sicily, where within 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.760 sight of the Blue Sea, the grass is a lifeless 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.520 brown and the road a powder of white. In many 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.240 regions it is necessary to go long distances to procure 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.920 drinking water. As one early writer on Italian immigration explained, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:33.440 it's a dest bowl ship that yeah yeah, um, and 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.520 they're a version of what's coming for California and a 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.280 sizeable chunk of Oregon like this summer. Yeah, it's it's 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.280 it's on its way, guys like this. Yeah yeah. So 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.640 this is why I think we've all watched Five Will 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.240 Goes West, the famed documentary about Italian immigration into the 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:54.120 United States. This is yeah, there's no cats destroying all 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.520 of the trees and leading the top soil to leach 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:01.960 into the rivers, creating stagnant death pits. Um. So yeah. Now, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.520 obviously Italians are significant part of the growing garment industries workplace, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.360 but they were vastly outnumbered by Russian Jews. Not just 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.800 well Jews from what was Russia, which included modern day 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.560 Ukraine in Poland. Um. Most of these Jewish immigrants came 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.080 from what was called the Pale of Settlement, which was 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.520 within the Russian Empire, the limited swath of territory that 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.640 Jews were allowed to inhabit under the Czar's regime. Remember 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.160 this is a there's there's there's like there's an apartheid 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.920 system for Jewish people in Russia during this time. Um. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.959 One of the few jobs that Jewish people were allowed 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.800 to do during this period was garment making. And so 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.079 that's part of why they came to dominate the US 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.200 garment industry, is they a lot of them, men and women, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.680 learned how to sew, learned how to make garments, did 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.400 that for a living, and kind of like small boutique 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.000 senses of the word when they were in Russia, and 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.839 then when they came to the United States, they had 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.839 they had that skill right as the garment industry exploded. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.920 On Art eighteen eighty one, leftist revolutionaries in Russia killed 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.280 Czar Alexander the Second with a comically large bomb. Now 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.319 we mentioned a couple of times on the show because 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.240 it's important, um, but the Czar had been a reformer, 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.480 He's the guy who freed the serfs, and he'd been 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.280 good to Russia's Jews, although good here is a term 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.000 that means he didn't actively seek their extermination. Despite the 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.720 fact that Russian Jews had probably the least to gain 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.960 from this Csar's death, they were instantly blamed for masterminding 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.680 the assassination. This is kind of the story of why 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.160 all of these Jewish people immigrate to the United States. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.920 More than thirty cities erupted into anti Semitic violence in 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.520 the wake of the Tsar's assassination. Shlomo Lambrosa, writing in 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.840 Modern Judaism magazine, notes that in the wake of the 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.160 Tsar's murder quote, Jews were beaten, killed, and burned out 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.480 of their homes. Each attack was more brutal than the 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:52.560 preceding mass destruction. Thousands killed, hundreds of thousands wounded, orphaned, 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:57.079 and rendered homeless. This was the legacy of pogroms. Now. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.959 These programs were not ordered by anyone at the head 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.320 of the Russian state, but they were extremely popular. Many 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.439 programs were actively sponsored and organized by local Russian police. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.360 It was not until late summer around August of eighteen 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.840 eighty one that the Czar's troops took action to halt 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.440 the violence, and their intervention did not achieve any lasting peace. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.960 For the next three years after the Czar's assassination, every 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.400 spring would bring a new wave of programs. Journalist Dave 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.160 von Drell explains quote. The programs flared anew each spring 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.040 at Easter, when local priests reminded their flocks that the 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.680 Jews killed Christ just as they had killed the Tsar, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.880 and rumors circulated afresh that the matzo of Passover was 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.800 seasoned with the blood of slain Christian children. Along with 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.120 the pagrams came severe restrictions on Jewish liberties. Access to 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.720 higher education and professional jobs was cut off. The Russian heartland, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.880 including the capital St. Petersburg and the largest city, Moscow, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.840 was closed to Jews. Some were driven from the cities 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.440 in chains. So God damn man not, it's still harder 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.520 hear you know all that, I know this story, I 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.000 know of billion times, just the whole Russian Revolution. Like 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:07.360 I don't think you understand the West Western civilization until 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.280 you really get your brain around that. And and I'm 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.320 still it's still hard to hear where you're just like 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:19.680 what the fund guys like, she's mane And then and 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:26.040 then so you you you're running this apartheid, you know system, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.280 this cast system, apartheid and in and in this Jewish 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.240 community mess around, get good at it, and now you 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.560 think they got magical powers because they're good at it. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.880 And yeah, it just bothers me every time I have 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.320 to hear it. It's not. I mean, it's one of 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.360 those things. Russian history. There's a short list of like 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.000 the darkest regions of the world when you study history, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:53.240 right there's particularly Africa during colonialism. Um, there's China in 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.040 like kind of the last two centuries or so during 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.880 like that that they had a civil war that killed 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.000 more people in World War Two. Nobody ever talks about. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.400 It's like the eighteen hundreds fucking wild. Um, there's obviously 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:07.520 indigenous American history, but fucking Russian history is up there. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:14.240 Good god, it is wild. Some ship goes down in 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:20.480 Russia major and so this is the late eighteen hundreds 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.440 where this is all that these programs are trying to 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.040 ramp up. The eighteen eighties again, when when all of 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.200 the story, when everything sort of comes into place to 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.200 make the modern garment industry possible, is also when the 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.400 programs launch and things only get worse for Russian Jews. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.160 In the early nineteen hundreds, bizarre State was in a 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.240 situation we might call the crumbles, which is a framing 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.640 a friend of mine uses to describe what we're what's 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.240 happening in the United States right now. It's the early 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.400 stages of dissolution. Before the collapse of the government, revolutionary 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.080 sentiment was at an all time high. There were constant 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.840 protests against an incompetent and inefficient government, which many Russians 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.200 rightly saw had left them decades behind the rest of 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.120 the world. Zara Nicholas the second was a coward and 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.320 an idiot, and he had no idea how to write 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.720 the ship, but he was cunning enough to blame the 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.040 Jews for all of Russia's problems. His regime launched a 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.919 massive propaganda campaign, which included producing the Protocols of the 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.240 Elders of Zion and a number of anti Semitic newspapers. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.439 One of the best known was called bess Rabbitts in 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.200 the city of Kashinev. And this is part of the 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.639 province of bess Arabia, which is why it's called miss Rabetts. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.639 I'm sure I'm pronouncing everything wrong. Sorry, I'm not gonna 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:32.560 come on like um, if I'm not going to get England, right, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:37.919 I'm certainly not getting Russian. Yeah. So bess are Betts 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.320 was the only daily newspaper in the entire province, which 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.280 meant that it was by default the only thing most 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.040 Russian Christians had a chance to read every day for 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.359 the news, and it was focused around anti Semitism. In 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.040 nineteen o three, a Christian girl who worked as a 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.960 domestic servant for a Jewish family in the city of 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.480 Kishenev committed suicide. Bess A Rabets lost no time in 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.760 claiming that she had been murdered so her blood could 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.240 be used to make matzo bread. Now, this all happened 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.840 right before Easter Sunday, and it ended in a mob 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.960 of two thousand people rioting through the Jewish section of town. 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.600 People were murdered, some by having nails driven into their skulls. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.200 A baby, a live baby, was used to break windows 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.520 on Jewish shops as like a yeah, like yeah, I 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:27.399 mean it's it's fucking bad. Yeah, dumb, that's where that 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.800 whole like, yeah, that's where that whole myth thoughts about 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.560 you know, Jews drinking blood for what the blood libel 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.440 and all that stuff. Yeah, I mean this is an 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.760 if that starts centuries earlier, right, Like that's old as hell, um, 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.200 But this was just I mean this there's God only 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.359 knows how many thousands of people get killed over that 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.560 myth over the course of like that that's like a 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.400 thousand years old, you know. But yeah, this is yet 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.439 another time when it erupted into violence. Goddamn. Kishenev was 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.120 followed by other programs around Russia, and everything kept escalating 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.280 in nineteen o four when Zar Nicholas the second decided 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.720 that going to war with Japan seemed like a good idea. Now, 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.080 if you know any you know about the Russian navy today, 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:19.320 nothing about the navy today, Well, the Russian Navy today 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.480 has exactly one aircraft carrier, the Admiral kuznets Off, which 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.160 has sunk itself a couple of times and runs off 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.960 of what is essentially like unfiltered, unprocessed diesel oil, something 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.760 called mizzoot, which is like the dirty like it keeps 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.560 catching on fire, it keeps killing its sailors. It's like 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.400 always burning. It has to be tugged everywhere it goes. 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.440 It's not a great navy today, is what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.600 I was like, yeah, yeah, they don't really need a 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.240 navy the way that you know other countries due to 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.360 in order to based on agraphy, I blame them based 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.040 on a geography, like there's there's not water for of 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.919 all time. If you know anything about Japan, pretty fucking 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.280 good at navies. This is this is what they do, Yeah, 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.560 especially the early nineteen hundreds. And so the worst navy 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.480 in Europe goes up against the best navy in Asia 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.360 and it it does not go very well for Russia. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.159 Um and really the only people surprised our racists. But 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.440 obviously this is a huge political disaster. Russia loses a 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.679 huge chunk of their navy, a funckload of men, a 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.000 lot of prestige, and Zar Nicholas needs an excuse for 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.520 the disaster that follows. And of course he blames the 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:43.359 Jews even absolutely, how about those dudes as those guys, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.600 those guys, that's why I picked a fight with the 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.560 people who are better at this than us. But it's 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.200 literally guys we've been killing for years that are responsible. Yeah, 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.760 you literally took the knife to a gunfight. This is 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.920 exactly that's where the saying comes. This is what y'all did. Yeah, 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.520 you too a knife to for a gunfight, to a gunfight. 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.600 And then you blamed the group of people you don't 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:11.000 allow to own knives. You blame the cooks. Yeah. Yeah, 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.240 a huge wave of anti Jewish sentiment lights up in 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:18.239 Russia again. These paramilitary groups called the Black Hundreds rise up. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.640 And these guys are like pro monarchist Russian fascist group. Well, 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:23.920 fascist might be the wrong with anyway. They're they're they're 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.480 a bunch of assholes. They start murdering Jewish people to 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.440 punish them for what they and the Czar's press described 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:33.600 as conspiring with the enemy. The Black Hundreds openly stated 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:38.240 that quote the extermination of the Jews was their goal. Now, 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.240 the very worst campaigns of anti Semitic violence broke out 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.000 the next year, in nineteen o five UM, but this 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.159 was still related to the war with Japan. Because the 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.760 defeat in nineteen o four UM leads to mass unrest 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.359 and protests and kind of a revolution, I mean a revolution, 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.760 and in order to kind of clamp down on it, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.800 the Czar is forced to grant his people a constitution, 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.800 and not like a good constitution broadly speaking, better than 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.959 I mean, they hadn't really had anything. Um. Now, this 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.159 enrages Russian monarchists who want the Czar to be an autocrat, 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.120 and a lot of these guys respond to the Czar 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.760 compromising with revolutionaries by carrying out programs, and in fact, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.600 in November of nineteen o five, across the Russian Empire 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:26.400 there are six hundred different programs. That's twenty programs per 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:32.160 day for the entire month. Yeah. Um, So I'm doing 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.120 this to explain the fact that in like a ten 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:38.159 year period, two million euro Eastern European Jews moved to 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:45.479 the United States and this is why. Yeah. Yeah, a 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:49.040 lot of them are very like very accurately seeing what's 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.720 going to come in the nineteen forties and going, well, ship, 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:53.879 we gotta get the funk out of here. Yeah. The 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:59.560 Jewish like historical trauma, like the idea of just and 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.639 there antennas of knowing when like shipping to go bad, 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:07.440