WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Camp According To Mick & Bill

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys Half. Now here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola, And here we are. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>mix shots from Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, California. Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>along with the star of this show, Mickey Spagnola, and

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<v Speaker 1>yes you've here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Been up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed on a lot of things, but now we

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<v Speaker 1>get Mickey's perspective on what he's seen through. What is

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a full week out here in Oxtar? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>feel like nearly a full week? Yet? It's officially a

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<v Speaker 1>week today the end of today, it'll be on the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh day they rest there you go, I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, it's it's been interesting. I didn't get out,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't come out until Friday, and so I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like but it's been the busiest three days of my

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<v Speaker 1>year so far. Right, I mean, there is with this

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<v Speaker 1>schedule that they have here where they're working out in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning rather than in the in the evening. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as from a TV standpoint on CBS eleven, we

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<v Speaker 1>work until late as well. I have someone who wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do a podcast in another part of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I gotta get my bearings. I gotta figure

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<v Speaker 1>this thing out first, because we're going from sun up

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<v Speaker 1>to past sundown. Right. No, absolutely, and especially you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if I get up early and I started doing my

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<v Speaker 1>morning radio reports on FAN, that's eight thirty here, but

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<v Speaker 1>ten thirty back home. And then but we're not complaining. No,

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<v Speaker 1>And and by the way, if you want to find

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<v Speaker 1>something to complain, it's sixty seven degrees right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>put my sweatshirt on because when I walked back to

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<v Speaker 1>my room, the wind was blowing, and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little colder than I thought. And of all things,

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<v Speaker 1>it says rain starting in two minutes. There were some

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkles on me as I came from my hotel. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I did this probably fifteen years ago, and I did

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<v Speaker 1>it in a sing song, like I thought, it never

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<v Speaker 1>rains in southern California, And my interns looked at me

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<v Speaker 1>like I was cross eyed, like well, what is he

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Right? And that's I reminded myself of how old,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do that. No, I'm not sing song anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it never rained in southern California. Just

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkles a little bit anyway. All right, So what are

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<v Speaker 1>your impressions? Just to get us started here, as the

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<v Speaker 1>team has the day off today, right, and they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back for three straight practices Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Put on

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<v Speaker 1>the pads for the first time on Wednesday, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad Bill pointed that out because I think we needed

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<v Speaker 1>to put a disclaimer out there on everything we say,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody wants to know, what did you see, how's

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<v Speaker 1>this guy doing, how's that guy doing? You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no more than a mini camp practice or an OTA practice, helmet,

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<v Speaker 1>jersey shorts, minimal contact, so it's really hard to judge,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the offensive lineman. I think the easiest thing to

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<v Speaker 1>look at is the skill guys, the quarterbacks, the wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>the cornerback, safety's, linebackers, some in pass coverage. But as

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody said, well, is Michael Parsons ever gonna beat

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<v Speaker 1>Leal Cownds in a pass rush? And it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Tyrann Smith, let's wait to the pads come

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<v Speaker 1>on before we start judging things. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>probably the highlight of this first What did they have

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<v Speaker 1>four practices now? Is that right? Three practices Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Sunday. Right. Uh, Well, you know what, some people

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<v Speaker 1>can consider the conditioning test the practice because they didn't running,

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<v Speaker 1>and there there was that was why there's a day

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<v Speaker 1>off now. But Dak is moving awfully well. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought these last two practices, uh, he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. He was good, uh throwing the ball, throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on the run. Uh, being able to move

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<v Speaker 1>uh like he you know, they did one of the

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<v Speaker 1>scramble drills in team or seven on seven and um,

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<v Speaker 1>he had no problems moving whatsoever. So I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>out of the they're in the clear there with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were there when Jerry talked yes with the scribes.

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<v Speaker 1>After yes, he did the car wash with the TV

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<v Speaker 1>people yesterday. Jerry said that was probably the best practice

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<v Speaker 1>he had seen of Dak since he's been with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was saying a lot and and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>both Saturdays, Saturday, that was Saturdays, And I thought Sundays

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<v Speaker 1>was every bit uh as good. And you know what

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<v Speaker 1>people need to understand, Bill. And by the way, it

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<v Speaker 1>is raining. Wow, it is Look at that not not hard,

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<v Speaker 1>not like we get in Texas or anything, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice So you're saying fifteen years ago you did

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<v Speaker 1>see rain out here. I did. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand. It was two thousand and four, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five. One day kind of got delayed because it rains.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been out here then. In fact, now

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about reminiscing, Uh, those were the good old days,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in two thousand and four or old five. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we interviewed Kevin Costner out here, Yes, yes, on

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<v Speaker 1>the set. Yeah, And that was the old the old

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<v Speaker 1>days of the Cowboys Channel. And we were filling a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of time for the Cowboys Channel back then.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did a fifteen minute interview with kes like

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<v Speaker 1>Bill was sitting there, I was sitting there and Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Costner in the middle of course, with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>practice field in the background. Yes, yeah, where we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in a tent or on like a TV set. Then yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dak just you know you can you can throw

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<v Speaker 1>the football. You never forget how to do that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And and his mobility is fine, but then it's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing of getting acclimated to see in the field, like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all if you've ever played quarterback, and I haven't,

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<v Speaker 1>right really, or maybe in a pickup game when they

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<v Speaker 1>needed somebody. You know, there's a lot of muck out there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot going on, and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get used to sorting through when the play breaks down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think the scramble drill that they do

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<v Speaker 1>is invaluable, because I don't know what the percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>plays that you call in the huddle actually come off

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<v Speaker 1>the way you designed him right there, you gotta add

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<v Speaker 1>lip sometimes and and he was doing that fine. He

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing the ball fine, he was hitting guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the run when the play broke down. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that probably was the highlight of the first week of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, along with just the fact that guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrant Smith, Leale Collins, Zach Martin, Blake Jarwin or back

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<v Speaker 1>out there with the offense. And as Dak said that

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<v Speaker 1>one day, it's like the bands all back together again,

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly looked that way. And that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy team needs from this offense if they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>succeed this year. All right, let's get into some of

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<v Speaker 1>the news of the last couple of days. Anyway, give us,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a status report on the potential signing of

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<v Speaker 1>Malik Hooker, who, of course Mike McCarthy basically confirmed during

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<v Speaker 1>his press conference yesterday that he is out here and

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<v Speaker 1>yet he's going through the COVID protocols. Yes, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has not worked out for him yet. And remember I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was September twentieth, it was September twentieth he

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<v Speaker 1>ruptured his achilles, and Demonte Casey ruptured his achilles October fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks after, and Casey's back out here. But when

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<v Speaker 1>they brought in Hooker got all achilles injuries are yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they are not, especially when your age is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different too. But I'm glad to say that's as

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about his own experience. I'm glad to say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running now and actually played tennis a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, sou. But when they brought Hooker in in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring for the kind of a workout, my understanding

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<v Speaker 1>was he wasn't he wasn't ready physically. Uh, And you

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<v Speaker 1>remember he laughed and they didn't sign him and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know they had already signed Kazy and Keane O'Neil, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't worked out for him yet because when he

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<v Speaker 1>got here, COVID nineteen protocol mandated that he quarantined for

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<v Speaker 1>five days. And my understanding is he's here, he's in

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<v Speaker 1>his room, but he can't go anywhere. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>he's sequestered in his room. So I think the five

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<v Speaker 1>days are up tomorrow and that would be vaccinated or unvaccinated,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they can work him out. So they had

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<v Speaker 1>while they planned on signing them. They still need to

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<v Speaker 1>work him out and make sure the the achilles is

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<v Speaker 1>healed and he's physically ready to go. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine they clear. They probably have seen video of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got a pretty right idea, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that they've already kind of worked out the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's what is it July twenty six today, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a job. Your bargaining poler ain't real high, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with other teams getting ready to go to camp

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<v Speaker 1>and probably have their ninety man roster set. So so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be interesting to see in my understanding on why

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't any reflection on what they scene from the

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<v Speaker 1>safety so far, it's just trying to bring in the

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<v Speaker 1>best talent that would be available at safety and let

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<v Speaker 1>them sort it out. And he's likely to be a

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<v Speaker 1>pup guy to start anyway. Yeah, there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And you and you, you would have until

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<v Speaker 1>you got to set your fifty three man roster to

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<v Speaker 1>either activate him off pup or you can leave him

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<v Speaker 1>on pup and get six a minimum of six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>into the season. And that's why some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>they put on POP early, they just it's an insurance

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<v Speaker 1>policy against them being ready. Well, and that's the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is with an Now we've got a seventeen game

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, right, okay, a guy coming off an injury

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<v Speaker 1>like that, keep him on pup and he's he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that even if it's not till mid season before

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<v Speaker 1>he is or the second half of the season before

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<v Speaker 1>he can contribute, it's going to be a veteran minimum deal. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's not much to pay for insurance and

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<v Speaker 1>you might hit on something. Yeah, No, absolutely, And I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea where he is physically. He may be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go out there right now and be just

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<v Speaker 1>like Casey running around like crazy right now, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's his nickname, Crazy Casey. Right when when I first

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<v Speaker 1>heard him say it, I thought he said crazy Cajun.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, well, no, he's not from

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans or Louisiana or anything. And then I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at where he was from, and he was from Kajoun, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Ka Still j Yeah, and uh, there's Jerry walking by

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<v Speaker 1>right now. He's going to do the Cairo Wash with

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<v Speaker 1>the radio stations that are here too. And we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into Bill's interview with Jerry here in a moment. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guys that Bill gave you an example

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<v Speaker 1>of being on pup is Tristan Hill. Like he's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's working hard, but they know that they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a log jam at that defensive tackle position,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not going to rush him. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>give him another six weeks when the season starts to

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<v Speaker 1>continue rehabing his acl, then they won't have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with that, knowing that at some point somebody on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster is gonna get hurt and they're gonna open up

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<v Speaker 1>a spot and they could bring him back. So they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got him in their hip pocket right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought the best thing coming out of Bike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's press conference yesterday was what he said about Neville Gallimore. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because they he's been working with the first team and

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<v Speaker 1>they're expecting. It's one thing for us to sit here

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<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, yeah, he looks all right up there.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the coach gets overboard and praise of how

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<v Speaker 1>much stronger he is, and they've gave got some high

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<v Speaker 1>hulks for Gallimore. And by the way Bill would mentioning Gallimore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how the Cowboys do their offseason awards for

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<v Speaker 1>how hard guys work there, how much they increase some

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<v Speaker 1>of their stats, the things that they judge. He was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guys on defense that got the award,

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<v Speaker 1>So that gives you an idea of how hard he

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<v Speaker 1>was working in the off season. And talking to Harold

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<v Speaker 1>Nash for a game day story in the preseason, he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about Gallimore basically came to him and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get better at this, this and this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that's always good when you see a

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<v Speaker 1>player do that. You can have the physical talents, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to improve strength, your weight, all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was really high on Neville Gallimore and how

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<v Speaker 1>complicity was with working hard in the offseason. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of those guys that when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>his history. Of course, he's from Canada and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>late bloomer type as far as football goes. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure when the Cowboys drafted him in the third round,

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking at upside with him as much as anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's that's exciting to hear that he's got

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of work ethic and the want to to

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<v Speaker 1>be as good as he can be and not and

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<v Speaker 1>not to nothing against Oklahoma on how they played him,

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<v Speaker 1>but his natural position I think is a three technique

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<v Speaker 1>on a four man line and just to use his

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<v Speaker 1>speed his quickness there more than being a defensive end

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<v Speaker 1>in a three man line, which is what they were running.

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<v Speaker 1>They were running before Alex Grinch got there, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been I remember if he played for

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<v Speaker 1>Grinches let he wouldn't have it, so he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been in that yeah, you know, three man front. Which

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<v Speaker 1>so getting back to Tristan Hill, he's I watched his

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<v Speaker 1>workout yesterday. He is moving just fine. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was working out with him at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time was DeMarcus Lawrence. And I know Jerry when he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about Lawrence and Amari Cooper, he said probably

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<v Speaker 1>after Arizona. Well for Lawrence that that's a team decision

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<v Speaker 1>because he could go out there in practice right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know this first week, as we talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mini camp practice. They don't need Lawrence out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He he better serves himself rehabbing at this point from

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah, and the same with Cooper exactly and he

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<v Speaker 1>and yesterday I finally saw Cooper out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>chords with Britt Brown. Uh, DeMarcus Lawrence his workout yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarn darned tea that it was harder than any

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<v Speaker 1>practice guys went through yesterday because he was doing all

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<v Speaker 1>the little rehab stuff and had the chords on and

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<v Speaker 1>he's running hard. And uh Britt Brown uh is very

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic about when he'll be ready sooner than later. So

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<v Speaker 1>that all the PUP people you want to talk about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, um the other guys on PUP. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys with the hamstring like Gholston. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>see on that one. But the guys that um that

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<v Speaker 1>they they put on there that they were recovering from

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<v Speaker 1>injury or whatever. I think they feel like they would

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<v Speaker 1>be ready uh to go uh whenever, whenever needed. They

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't want to push him. Off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head. I was trying to, um, remember the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that ended up on pop Let's see if I got

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<v Speaker 1>my and they're a list here and all of them

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're not concerned. They're just easing them in, right

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to be judicious about it. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like, oh no, this guy's not gonna be ready.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be ready to go, but that they

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about um, about everybody. UM, like I mentioned Gholston,

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<v Speaker 1>will see Lawrence. I think they feel really good about um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh, Greg Zerline had back surgery. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>acl I saw him out there. He was rehabbing on

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<v Speaker 1>the chords and usually when you when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the chords, then you're you're you're getting a lot closer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned Cooper had the foot surgery. Uh, and Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Hyatt uh, who I thought was probably further off. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got hopes that he'll be ready to go at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in training camp and they haven't given up on him.

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<v Speaker 1>The poor guy. You know, he was in the off season,

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<v Speaker 1>and some guys have it's their rehab is different for

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<v Speaker 1>an ACL than everybody else's, So I think those are

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<v Speaker 1>the guys. And then uh t J. Vassar was on Texas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on non football injury. So we'll see where

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<v Speaker 1>that one goes, all right, And they signed a cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday too. They did U Kyran Brown cornerback. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a signed by the Jets as a rookie free

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<v Speaker 1>agent in twenty nineteen and he only played in three

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<v Speaker 1>games uh that year, and then last year he spent

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<v Speaker 1>the whole year on pup with a quad a quad injury.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, they had an open spot and they

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<v Speaker 1>just uh wanted to fill it. Got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>activity going on here with a little bit of rain on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on Radio Row, which is located right next to

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<v Speaker 1>where Mike McCarthy has his press conferences here on the

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<v Speaker 1>tennis courts overlooking the River Ridge playing fields here in Oxnard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think anyone really anticipated rain drops at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but there there are tarps here, yes, And so they're

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<v Speaker 1>they've they're mobilizing yes, the other radio stations are putting

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<v Speaker 1>the tarps up to make sure. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the rain is coming anywhere near inside the tent. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a tent. We're expecting a torrential downpour at

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of moments, I guess. And it's a fine

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<v Speaker 1>rain euipment they're yeah, I know they're not covering us

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<v Speaker 1>up now. They wouldn't worry about us, right, And since

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam is doing that, I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>we're back here on mixed Shots. What a day it

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<v Speaker 1>has already been, as the Big twelve is blown up today,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Oklahoma and Texas gave their notice and my phone

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<v Speaker 1>is blowing up because of that. And you know, Vicky,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I got here Friday, on Saturday and Sunday. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you it's fourteen hour days out here, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And with this new schedule, with with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>team practicing in the morning day and Saturday with the

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<v Speaker 1>opening ceremonies at ten so noon Dallas time. It had

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<v Speaker 1>to be out here an hour early for that because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a crowd too. I mean I got here eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty or so. So I just grabbed I went by

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<v Speaker 1>a seven to eleven and I grabbed a bear claw.

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<v Speaker 1>A bear claws I have never had, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen I've never even heard of them. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>I had neither until I've picked it up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love them. It looks good. I've been living off bear

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<v Speaker 1>claws here the last couple. That's your breakfast. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is a to the we we park now

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<v Speaker 1>you you're staying on campus. Yeah, but we got to

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<v Speaker 1>walk all the way around though. We park three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards away. Yeah, okay, in the parking lot. And with

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<v Speaker 1>the fans here and everything, there was a full house

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. There's you could not even think about leaving

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<v Speaker 1>here and then to come back going to get lunch

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And so I lived off two

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<v Speaker 1>bear claws that day, and I did the same thing yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, anyway, Breakfast of champions, that's it right there,

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<v Speaker 1>and water and bear claws is what I'm living on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's rating harder by the way. Now, thing they

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<v Speaker 1>did with their with they put up the tarp to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the equipment that was next to the fence here. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry did the car wash yesterday, and my understanding what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were supposed to only have six minutes minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw the clock like standing up there like

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<v Speaker 1>this the whole time. So how did he go with you?

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<v Speaker 1>And Jerry? Well, we were told in advance we get

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<v Speaker 1>six minutes each, and it was Mike Doucey Channel four

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<v Speaker 1>went first, Louis Scruggs Channel five went second, myself, CBS

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<v Speaker 1>eleven went third, and then Greg Simmons with k Satin

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio was fourth, and then they saved the big

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<v Speaker 1>Cohuna Dale Hanson for fifth. I figured there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a six minute time limit when Dale Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>and there was his last interview with Jerry. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Dale's retiring in September second, So Doucy Stoptember September second.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Doucy starts and I'm seeing David A. Brusie

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<v Speaker 1>give him time cues and he is ignoring every single

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<v Speaker 1>time I guarantee you do. He got hung up and

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<v Speaker 1>I could just barely hear from a distance. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Troy k Mos out here yesterday, and so we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to get Troy ourselves because the way they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the interviews after the practice is each station is set

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<v Speaker 1>up at a post and they bring a player over.

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<v Speaker 1>What Connor Williams was the last player, and that my

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<v Speaker 1>CBS eleven photographer Bill Ellis. He was tied up at

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<v Speaker 1>the far end of the practice field having to get

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams. And then we distribute the interviews to all

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the stations have all the interviews. So anyway, then Troy's

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<v Speaker 1>doing an interviewer. So Doocy asked Troy about being a

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<v Speaker 1>GM and you know, being up in the tower with

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry and stuff, and so I'm from a distance, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing him ask all these questions about Troy being a GEM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't hear anything Jerry's saying. J's faced the

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<v Speaker 1>other way, and so I'm going So that is why

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<v Speaker 1>Doucy went well beyond six minutes on his because he

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<v Speaker 1>was just trying. He was trying to get that sound

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<v Speaker 1>bite from Jerry that he can tweet. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Doocy afterwards, right, Yeah, he's trying to get that sound

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<v Speaker 1>bite that he can tweet out, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes viral that. Yeah, there's a chance that Troy would

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<v Speaker 1>be the GiB of this steam and he never he

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<v Speaker 1>never got him to say it. Yeah right, and not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. Yeah, so uh so anyway, so I probably

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<v Speaker 1>went about nine minutes with him something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went past the stop sign. Also, Uh, he's great talking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he just as you know, he just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loves training camp, you know, and he and you saw

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<v Speaker 1>it in his opening press conference, the emotion that he

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<v Speaker 1>had when he gets sentimental about the past years here

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. Um, you know, he actually with me

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<v Speaker 1>he talked to it's the same kind of feelings that

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<v Speaker 1>he had. I mean, that's how much it means to

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<v Speaker 1>him when his granddaughter got married on Saturday on Saturday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know it means so much to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, and WHENI gets criticized for the

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years without a Super Bowl, that's when it

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions, you know, get going both ways on right

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, So, uh, it's it's great talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish that we had we knew in advance

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>we've got ten minutes with him, because then you don't

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>because as a as an interviewer, when you're you know

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that Jerry goes along with his answers to begin with okay,

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>and so you have to parse it down to your

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>questions to there are certain topics and so I think

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>all of us are the same. There's five or six

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>questions that we have, but you don't really know that

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you have time to follow up with the exactly know,

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 1>when he says something about his granddaughter getting married, you

0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 1>would like and then even more emotion would come out

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to be able to follow up, But you got four

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>more questions you need to ask, you know. So that's

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that's one of them. And it's hard to it's hard

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>to cut him off too, by the way to you know,

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like interrupt or not interrupt, but you know when it's

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of you go, but you can't see on live TV,

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and the since these were taped right now live TV,

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you would be more prone to cut him off because

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you know the clock's running yeay, yeah, and you gotta

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get it done in six if there's a

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>shot clock on you right so you were watching. Uh. Uh,

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I watched the interview with Dale, Okay, I want to

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>hear that. And and Dale had all these props ready

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to go, and uh, he wanted to bring up Switzer

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know ninety four. And as a matter of fact,

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>they were doing Dale's you know, top twenty moments with

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboy or just hit in his history and number

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>six was the interview with Barry Switzer and ninety four

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>at training camp. Uh. We were still in Austin at

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>at the at the college there. And as matter of fact,

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember it explicitly because I was sitting on the

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>ground underneath their camera too. I wanted to monitor what

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>was going to go on. Right, Well, we knew in

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>advance the fireworks and I and I when I warre

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and Dale remembered it when he did the deal for

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>number six that I warmed him that Switzer's coming after you,

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and he mentioned it. And the reason that we knew

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in advance that there would be sparks flying was because

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Dale was on Norm Hitska's radio show right morning and

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>made comments about the assistant coaches right that the assistant

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>coaches were going to revolt, that they all wanted the

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>head coaching job, and they weren't cooperating, which I don't

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>know about how far that went, but anyway, and so Switzer,

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Switzer got all excited and he started punching Dale in

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the arm like yeah, you know you gotta do this,

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you know you say that and then and

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>then Switzer and Dale never never said it, never reported it,

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>but Switzer got on this thing that he heard that

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Dale reported that Tony Casillas had a brain tumor, and

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that got Dale mad because he did not do that.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And then Switzer just started punching him harder and finally, finally, uh,

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Dale goes, hey, that's starting to hurt a little bit, right,

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And and they continued for a while, and they they

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>blew by their break, right, and at some point Larry

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Lacewall was there kind of next to me and Larry

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it didn't get on the air, but Larry finally said, guys, guys,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that's enough, just like that, right, And so Dale, when

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about it, Dale brought out a pillow

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and put it on his shoulder so Jerry could poke

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>him like that. When they were talking about it again,

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering how he's going to work. Yeah, it

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>was pretty It was pretty funny. And then he had

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>something that this long scroll of paper and he started

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and roll it and started reading the things that you know,

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>he needed to Jerry needed to explain. And he got

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to about the second one and then Jerry ripped the

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>paper and fickt or like he had something there, and

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, let me read this about you now,

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>right and uh And at the end, uh, they were

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>they were basically, you know, telling each other how much

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>they enjoyed each other's company and and and Dale wanted

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to Jerry to explicitly point out that he quit. He

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't get fired from the radio show, but he was

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna get fired by Ron Chapman. And they told Jerry

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>told that story, and he said, so I helped Chapman out,

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got got rid of you. And he goes, no,

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I quit before you got rid of me. And it

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>was pretty funny. So I worked Hanson into my interview

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>with Jerry too, Did you really? I said, A normal

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>retirement age for a lot of people, sixty five. I hear,

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a sportscaster there's retiring at the age of seventy three.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But you're never retiring. Are you, And of course Jerry

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>said that you know, when you don't work, you're not

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna you know, what do you what's sort of retire

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>from when you're right, you know, basically saying when you

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>love what you do and it doesn't feel like work

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to you. So after after he said that, I say, well,

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they're the sportscaster're retiring and working twenty five. That's a

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty good dig, right. So yeah, so and so he's

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>he's in the booth next to us. Um, I think

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he's with the is it is the ticket next? Yeah?

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I think so, Uh, he's doing them. What if he

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>thinks this is whatever radio station riches there, referee and

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>dark and he might have just thought he was supposed

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk to us and we got a we got

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>another mic right there you go. If he walked in

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, But yeah, he does that every training camp

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's usually at night and they do it live.

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But because of all the protocols, they had to do

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>it this way. Well, I was just pleased that we

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>were able to sit side by side. We were separated

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>by about six feet whatever. But all the other one

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on one interviews that the TV stations are doing out

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>here we're doing having to do it over the fence, right,

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>which is just like all of the interviews are being

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>done over the fence where you're separated by six feet

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>or so. Yeah, and you know it's kind of working.

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Just have to remain flexible. And look, we see what's

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>happening right now out there with the variant, and so precautions, precautions, precautions.

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And Frank Reich, the Indianapolis coach, sat a head coach,

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>tested positive. He's fully vaccinated, and so they're just getting

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>started with their camp and so he has to have

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>two negative tests over a seventy two hour period in

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>order to be able to be back with the team. Now,

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>how do you think he contracted COVID nineteen if he's vaccinated,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody that's not vaccinated passed it on to him. Okay, yeah,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>don't get me started. And that's why all of us

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in the media have to be fully vaccinated before we

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>can get entrance here. Well, I saw that the NFL

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>came out and it was maybe a month ago. It

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>basically said if the media member wasn't vaccinated, they weren't

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>allowing to the press box to cover the game. Well,

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and I saw a report yesterday that they're requiring it,

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that it hasn't been announced yet. The edict hasn't come

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>down yet, but for network broadcasters, they can't go into

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the network booth unless they're fully vaccinated. Yeah, yeah, so

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that's coming down. You know. I thought it was interesting

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times when these guys are doing

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the interviews here, they're they're being asked if they're vaccinated.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Some guys, you know, kind of beat around the bush.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>They won't say. Michael Gallup was asked it yesterday and

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>he just came right out and said, yeah, I'm vaccinated.

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And they were asking them all a lot of people

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>are a little worried. You know, what was your incentive

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>to get vaccinated? He said, you know, after games, I

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like to be able to hang with my family and friends.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>And he goes to me, that was incentive enough for

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>me to get vaccinated, and what it didn't mention why

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be safe or whatever it was. The

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>protocols out there for unvaccinated players should be. It seems

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>enough for guys to go, I'm going to get vaccinated,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>right because the guys around here that aren't vaccinated, they

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>got masks on all the time, and they're not supposed

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to eat in the cafeteria. No. Now, I will say this,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and Mike McCarthy's kind of talked about a

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I understand. I don't know if hesitancy is

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the right word now, but there are Everyone has their

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>own situations in fact, and I'll just go ahead and

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>say with me, I had COVID in February, and I

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>was told by my doctor to wait to get vaccinated

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>for three months, which took me to June, okay, And

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then I decided myself, I want to get a physical, okay,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 1>because I was due because I didn't get physical last year.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make sure everything's good, you know. And

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>so it was it was first of July before I

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>was able to get vaccinated, and so I got the

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Johnson and Johnson because it was a one shot and

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>then to go right. And so that's why I went

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>with the Jay and Jay was so I would be

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>fully vaccinated. And I got an antibodi's test at the

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>time of my physical, and my antibody's test shows that

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>they didn't explain what the number meant, but it was

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of antibodies. Oh well, good, yeah,

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>so you're doubly right. And that's what And a doctor

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine who who's actually on a board advising

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>corporations around the country about it, that he was encouraging me, Yes,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you need to get vaccinated. Okay, great, I'm I'm all

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>for it. Whatever. He told me, wait three months and

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>then get the J and J and U. And so

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>there could be players like these players who are who

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>got vaccinated late. You know, they're maybe checking out, they're

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>making sure that they get the right advice and Jerry

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry pointed out that they had a lot of

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 1>guys in what he called the pipeline where maybe they

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>were got the first one, they're waiting for the second one,

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>or maybe they got the second one but waiting for

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the two week period. Afterwards, Michael Parson said that he

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>is in that. Yeah, I think he's fully vaccinated as

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow. And so so my physician friend told me,

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>as old as you are, you better get it as

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>soon as you can and try it. And I would

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>have back in February or whenever my age came up,

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was able to, but I had it.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately I didn't have it badly. I felt it for

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>three weeks and I was able to work from home,

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and didn't miss a day at work. And

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>for the people in the traveling party with the Cowboys

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that were on the charter, we all had to go

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>get tested before we came out here. Well yeah, and

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>all of the media members hadn't have a negative test before. Yeah,

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know what, the results didn't say negative, It

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>said not detected. I wanted to hear something more affirmative, right,

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>not detected That that kind of leaves wiggle room for

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a while. We didn't find anything, but maybe you know

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, all right, that's our COVID nineteen talk from today.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.480
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0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.719
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<v Speaker 1>Back back to mick Shots. Welcome back to Mix Shots,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Chilves with Mickey Spagnola, our final segment. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take it another nineteen minutes or so. Here and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we told the story about I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was two thousand and five when Kevin Costner was a

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<v Speaker 1>visitor to Cowboys training camp and we had him on

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<v Speaker 1>one of our TV shows on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the Old Cowboys Channel, before the NFL network started.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jake ben Waugh, who is an avid listener to

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>all of the podcasts here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Uh,

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>he found the video on YouTube of our interviews and

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>he tweeted it at us. He is, Jake is at

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>run Emmett Run on Twitter and he's got some seal

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>shots of us interviewing Kevin Costner from sixteen years ago.

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 1>So we got another tweet out and the Guide tweeted,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better weather here in Scotland. Want to trade place?

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. No, we're good. We're good. We're

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<v Speaker 1>good where we are, all right? Other impressions from the

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>early days of camp. Let's start, how about Connor Williams,

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>who got some work, who's been getting some work at center,

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you know when he came out of Texas. Of course

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he played left tackle at Texas and because of the

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>short arms, was moving inside in the NFL. But there

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people, there are at least some

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>draft people experts quote unquote who thought that his best

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>position in the NFL might eventually be center. Yeah, and

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>he said there was only when he got worked out

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>before the draft. There was only a couple of teams

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that suggested that maybe he was a guard center. He

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>said most of his workouts before the draft were tackle guard,

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but it always kind of came up, and you know,

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years they kind of dabbled with it,

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>but not really hardly in the off season. Well this year, now,

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the first time I've actually seen him take

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>like snaps in practice, and yesterday was a little more

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>extensive as he was taking the second uh, the second

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>team snaps at center. Uh the day before, he skied

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a shotgun snap over the quarterbacks. Say that didn't keep

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>from playing. That's right by golly, because they had been

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>using uh, Matt Forniak Uh, the Nebraska guy they drafted,

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it was in the sixth round. Uh. He

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>had played guard, he had played all the things, but

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>he played a little bit of center there. So they

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.919
<v Speaker 1>decided instead of him working at guard, they would work

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>him at center. But uh, you know, Connor said, basically,

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just make himself more useful. And so

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>what they're looking for, and it's one of the spots

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>on this team that you know, has to get decided.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the backup center. They're fine with Tyler Biadish as

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the starting center. And and to me, and I've said

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this repeatedly, had he not gotten hurt last year, that

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>center job would have been him his the rest of

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the way after he took over for Joe Looney who

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>sprayed the knee. Uh so they need a backup and uh,

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you know the only other guy that they had been

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>looking working as as a backup center? Um wash, where's

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the guy's name? It was Jones, Braylon Jones, free agent

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and he at least played center last year, right because

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>other than be Idish on the roster right now, no

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>one played center in the NFL last year on the roster. Uh.

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So again, um, we'll see how where this goes. But

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>he seems willing. Uh, they seem serious about it. But

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>at some point, you know, if if they don't think

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>that works out, and Farniac's not ready, you know, they're

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to find somebody. So it appears that they

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>view Connor Williams as a better uh backup center, even

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>though he's starting at guard right now than Connor McGovern

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>would be as Yes, that's the way it looks. And

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and and now here's the other thing with Connor McGovern.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, if if if ty Niseki or Terrence Steele

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<v Speaker 1>or Josh Ball don't show that they're good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be the swing tackle, the backup swing tackle that the

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have struggled with for how many years, you think,

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>four or five? If something happens to one of those starters,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin goes out to tackle, Connor McGovern goes to guard,

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's got to be in their mind

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>because I think if that's the case, Connor McGovern can

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>play guard better than the backup can play tackle. And

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to make that move with Martin,

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and you don't mess around like they did last year.

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, but because we hated to see what happened

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>last year with the offensive line, but because of what

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>happened with the offensive line, their depth is better on

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line now than it has been in all right,

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And as those guys got those snaps last and and

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, Terrence Deal was another guy that

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:07.439
<v Speaker 1>won one of the offseason workout awards, and and they're

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:11.760
<v Speaker 1>they're given him a chance on that backup job. Also,

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Knight, who started the other games at mostly at

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>left tackle, he's been working at guard. So they're hoping

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the struggles Steal with last year benefited him to the

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>point where he's that much better. See, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick at every spot on the offensive

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>line and especially the backup. You've got to have some

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 1>developmental guys. And if Steel can do better than he

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 1>did last year, then it'll be interest. And that's what

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen until the pads come on, and that's

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that you know, that build that first preseason game, the

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame game. I think we're going to see

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of these young guys playing because they've

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>got the extra preseason game and those games are going

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to be important to guys like Steele and Josh Ball

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and who knows, maybe they tell Connor Williams, even though

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you're the starter, we're gonna give you some snaps at center.

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>But to bury the lead. We just buried the lead

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line. And the lead on the offensive

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>line is that Tyron Smith and Lyle Collins look good,

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 1>look really good. As a matter of fact, I think

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>there was maybe the day before Randy Gregory got got

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>a pass rush on Tyrn yesterday, he didn't get past

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage. Tyring. I think got serious and

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>locked him up. But I'll tell you what about tyring

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that I saw after Saturday's practice. He and Micah Parsons

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>stayed out afterwards, and he was giving them tips on

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>rushing the quarterback good and showing him the things that

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>he's picked up on how he's stopped other guys. And

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the things he was showing them was Michael

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was trying to use this spin move to go inside

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and he was spinning before there was contact, and he

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was basically explaining to him, don't spin before you make

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>contact because the tackles just sitting there waiting for you

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to come to him. Right, you got to hit him

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and then spin. And then he was showing him how

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to use his hands to get the hands off so

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he can complete his spin. Okay, so now let's talk

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>about Michael Parsons. I love him, and I told you

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I love him as a player. I also love him

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>as a guy to talk to. I think he's going

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to be the best interview on the team. How about

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you love him as a chess player. Because there were

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty hard knocks people showing or taping Michael Parsons and

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Ben d Nucci playing chess. It was the whole crew. Well,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 1>they probably didn't have anything else to do, right, So

0:47:53.840 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody was there but Parsons so far. Remember what I told.

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked us, well, where's he going to play? And

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, on the field. They'll find a spot for him. Okay,

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's my question for you. All Right, the Marcus

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is all right, knock on wood, he's gonna be

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. Right, What is the inventory of edge

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>rushers that are going to be contributing during this regular

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.720
<v Speaker 1>season for this team? Okay, we start with the Marcus

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence and Randy Gregory correct, and Michael Parsons is right

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in that mix. Well, Terrell Basham is playing one of

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the defensive ends. So here's what they're doing with him,

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Bill when they and how about this, They've got some

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>formations that they've got three linebackers on the field at

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the same time that we didn't see last year. Right,

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 1>So when the three guys are out there, Jalen Smith's

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in the middle, Layton Vanderish is on the week side,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons on the strong side, and when he's on

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the strong side, he's lining up on the line of

0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>scrimmage like head up with the tight end. So depending

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>what the formation is, he's either running with the tight

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 1>end or they're blitzing the strong side linebacker off the edge.

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:11.919
<v Speaker 1>He can get there quit and he's awfully, awfully good.

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna have to not just assume that he's

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>covering the tight end and no matter how many wide

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>receivers around the sit in other words, instead of the

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>offense dictating, there you what the defense can do to

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>try to defend them. This I think dan Quinn's putting

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>a defense together because he says he talks about this

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>defense is not the defense that they ran in Atlanta Rights.

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:41.280
<v Speaker 1>He's taken this personnel and he will be able to

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:44.959
<v Speaker 1>dictate defensively what's gonna happen on it. He's gonna match

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>up like I've got the personnel, and that's what he said.

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked him, how are you gonna get all these

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>guys on the field. He goes, well, we're gonna have

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>different matchups. So that's one of them. Now at this point,

0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>since it's young, early in camp, when they go to

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>second team nickel, then Michael Parsons the middle linebacker, and

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody said, well, yeah, he rushed from the defensive tackle spot. Well,

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he was the middle linebacker in the gap like they've

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>used Jalen Smith before. It right, and he rushed up

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the middle. But he the other day, I don't know

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 1>if you were here yet or not, they were doing

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that scramble drill and he was one of the He

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.320
<v Speaker 1>might have been lined up in the slot as the

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>strong side guy. I don't remember where he started, but

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>they scrambled and ceedee. Lamb was kind of dilly dowling

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 1>at the line of scrimmage and then he takes off

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>right and he goes deep and he was almost to

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the end zone and right behind him, step for step,

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>was Michael Parsons, And I'm going, are you kidding me?

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.360
<v Speaker 1>There's number one against number one? And they were running

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>step by step together. It was it was a thing

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to see. So they've used him on the nickel in

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the middle, and then at times when they do the

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>individual drills, instead of Michael working with the linebackers covering

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>tight ends or running backs, he's over there with the

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman working on his pass rush drills. So he's

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>as versatile as anybody I've seen, and he kind of

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>knows what he's doing too. By the way, right right,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's where I'm so impressed with him. Even

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you can see it in his interviews. Why I say

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that he's eventually going to be the best interview on

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the team. He gives thoughtful answers, he listens to your questions,

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's very real in his yeah, and in

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the way he responds to questions and stuff. Yeah. So

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>so they're they're going to figure out how to get

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>him on the field. It's interesting. Uh, with the exception

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of Dak, you know, he's Dak is Dak. Okay, the

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>rest of the team, I think my two favorite players

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 1>on this team are as far as what their potential

0:51:55.800 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>is are Michael Parsons in cd L. Yeah absolutely, And

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 1>they were first round draft rights and you know, and

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>CD should have been higher if people are going to

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>find that out right, those two players give me more

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>excitement about this team than anybody anybody else. And part

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of that is how young they are, you know, in

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the in the futures all in front of them. And

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't mean this disparagingly, well, maybe I do.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>The people that are like when they drafted Parsons at

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.439
<v Speaker 1>number twelve, well, you can't take a linebacker that high.

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>You needed this, this or that. And it's like, you

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:34.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't just take a linebacker, you took one of those

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>guys that comes along very not very off finger right. Yeah.

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>And I remember one day it might have been us.

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I said something when somebody said, now, it wouldn't because

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you guys wouldn't have said that. They said, take a linebacker.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, he's not a linebacker. They go, but you

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>can get a linebacker. Later, I said, what if he's

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Taylor? Just like that? And they go, oh, you're

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna go that fire And I go, okay, I get it,

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>But what if he is. I'm not saying that instantly,

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 1>but boy, he's got some talent now and it's showed

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>out here Cede Lamb in his second year. And let's

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 1>remember ced didn't have an off season last year, and

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have a preseason, and look what he did.

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Now he's got all this under his belt a second

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 1>year doing the offseason workouts. Better watch out for him.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And they're moving him around too, and you know it's

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it's like, let's take the honey badger Tyre Matthew. What

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>position does he play? We don't know. Yeah right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you'll list him on the depth chart maybe as

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a safety all over the fields. It's like it's almost

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like Paula Mallo. I remember talking to Bill Parcels about him,

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and Parcels goes, yeah, you know, I don't know where

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>he plays. He says, I don't know that he knows

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>where he plays. He just out there making plays. And

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what you're gonna see with this guy. Right. Okay,

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>so in our last five and it's what are you

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.919
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to this week? And especially as they put

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on the pads on Wednesday? Yeah. Now, now when they

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>put the pads on, I get a better idea of

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going on on the offensive line and defensive line,

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 1>a much better idea when those guys can can use

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.799
<v Speaker 1>their pads. And then the other thing is, you know,

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.879
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers are really brave going over the middle when

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>they know they're not getting hit. Right. Well, okay, let's

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 1>see if you continue that, you know, or and will

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you hang onto the ball? Uh? Those are the things

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that to me always stand out. Now from a physical standpoint,

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with the three offensive linemen that

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>are back with the Tyrant Smith Lelle Collins and Zach Martin.

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Those guys physically are ready to go. Blake Jarwin physically,

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he's running well, he's ready to go, you know. And

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and a guy that really showed up, maybe it was

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>yesterday day before, Dalton Schultz. Yesterday we saw what he

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>did the year. You know, sixty three catches. They're not

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>many tight ends not named Witten in Cowboy history that

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>have had sixty three catches in a season. Uh. And

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>then but a lot of that, a lot of that

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>was dump off stuff, right. But what we were seeing

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>yesterday with some downfield stuff right exactly and making nice

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 1>catches too. So uh, yeah, be interesting to see if

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the younger wide receivers, you know, I think Noah Brown, uh,

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Cedric Wilson so far have had really nice camps. Um,

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Dixon is interesting. Uh. And then yesterday, uh it

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>was Malik Turner. I don't know much about Malik Turner,

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but he had a nice day two, number seventeen. So

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if that stuff continue. About the draft pick Hoko, Yes,

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's had a couple really nice catches too. So uh,

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>here's here's the part. I think I'm looking forward to

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>the most because I think defensively, there's gonna be a

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of competitions, not only for a starting job, just

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to make the team. And I think when the pads

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>come on, then we're going to see the competition increase.

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's the best part of training camp. And I

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>know Mike McCarthy keeps talking about the competition, the competition,

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and I think when the pads come on that that

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see that. And it's mainly I mean,

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we can sit here, assuming they're hopefully there are no injuries,

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>we could put We could pretty much tell you who's

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna make the team. On the offensive side of the ball,

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>oh absolutely, hey, but defense, it's all up in the era. Yeah,

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the only sure things DeMarcus Laurence

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 1>starts at left defensive end, Randy Gregory starts at the right,

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Diggs probably one of your starting corners. The other

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>starting corner right now is Anthony Brown, but he better

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:53.399
<v Speaker 1>not have two bad days in a row before. Calvin Joseph. Yeah,

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and he starting to show up just a little bit,

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and they've actually moved him in the slot a little bit,

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>but mostly outside. Jordan Lewis has been in the slot.

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Maurice Kennedy has been in the slot, so yeah, we'll

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>see how that works out. The safety position, let's go.

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, if they're looking at Malik Hooker, then they're

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>saying okay, kind of like the other guys, but let's

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 1>see what this guy can do. Donovan Wilson maybe because

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 1>he started last year ten games, but I think defensively

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be competition. Offensively, the main competition would be

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>for the backup swing tackle, backup center, and then backup quarterback.

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, and we can't tell you who's the

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.959
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback here. I can't know. And then Cooper Rush

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't do himself any favor. He had back spasms on Saturday,

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he didn't practice, and any misspractice again yesterday. I'm told

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:52.479
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not that serious that he should be back soon.

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if he's soon backup quarterback on this

0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>roster right now, but Ben d Nucci has been getting

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of snaps as with the second team kind

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of sharing him with Garrett Gilbert. And when I asked

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy the question about the competition at backup quarterback, the

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>only one he ended up talking about was Ben d Nucci.

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>So he talked about how he got stronger. If if

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Ben da Nucci is your backup quarterback, how many quarterbacks

0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 1>are going to be on this roster, Well, they'll be three,

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and they will keep their eyes open on the free

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>agent wire for an experienced quarterback to come free, because

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone the quarterbacks on the roster now not named Dak

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Prescott have a combination a combined two NFL starts, and

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 1>that scares me because that backup quarterback needs experience to

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 1>be able to play that position. And so you never

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>know with all those new quarterbacks that got drafted, somebody

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be its gonna be released. So keep an

0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 1>eye on They'll keep an eye on it, and you

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on it too, not you, okay them? Folks?

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 1>All right? Are we done? I think I think we

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of used hour. Right, how about that? That was fun?

0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>All right? So maybe the next time they have got

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>a day off that there's an opening, which would be Friday, Friday,

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll have another mix shots. All right, as long as

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you're still here. I'm still here Friday, all right until

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>next Monday. Sounds good though. All right? That does it

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<v Speaker 1>for mix shots and we will see you again next time.

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