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Speaker 1: Lauren is on the phone today for our first Day
Speaker 1: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy.
Speaker 1: So in a few minutes we'll call him in seefa,
Speaker 1: tells why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date.
Speaker 1: But first, Lauren, how long has it been since you
Speaker 1: heard from Sammy?
Speaker 2: Oh it's been like a week or two.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Have you reached out to him in that time?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I definitely have, although I don't think he
Speaker 2: knows that I have. I'll probably have to explain that
Speaker 2: to you a little bit. You have a weird situation, okay,
Speaker 2: But I can't believe I'm saying it that the date
Speaker 2: was actually like amazing, And it's so rare that I
Speaker 2: meet anyone, whether it's you know, IRL or online where
Speaker 2: it's like especially online to say, because you know, we'll
Speaker 2: text and like I think that there could be a
Speaker 2: possibility that going somewhere, and then like I don't know,
Speaker 2: we meet up and it's just not what I expected.
Speaker 2: But in this case, the text chemistry absolutely translated to
Speaker 2: real life. We spent like several hours together. Wasn't just
Speaker 2: at one spot. We were like kind of hopping all
Speaker 2: around one venue to the next, and believe it or not,
Speaker 2: even I got to know some of his friends and
Speaker 2: they became awesome as well, and the night ended up
Speaker 2: at his place, which I didn't expect.
Speaker 1: But no, yeah, I know, you know, talking.
Speaker 2: In the radio, so something's happened at our you know,
Speaker 2: PG thirteen rated R. So I stayed the night there,
Speaker 2: and then we decided to meet up for date number two,
Speaker 2: which was just casual but so much fun, like downtown
Speaker 2: after work, you know, not my neighborhood where I live,
Speaker 2: but it was just a great time.
Speaker 3: Did you go back with him after date number two? Too?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I texted him and just got no response, like I
Speaker 4: didn't know where he was, so sitting there like what
Speaker 4: And then after fifteen minutes I.
Speaker 2: Did something that like I never want to do, like
Speaker 2: the phone call like hey where are you? That sort
Speaker 2: of thing awkward?
Speaker 3: So wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry he disappeared in the
Speaker 3: middle of your date.
Speaker 2: No, I got there and he was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I really think I like this guy, So
Speaker 2: I'm like, normally after fifteen minutes. I would just leave, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're gonna going to waste my time. I don't even
Speaker 2: know you, but I'm like, let me get a chance
Speaker 2: that you never know, like what could have happened? Right,
Speaker 2: So I call and I missed that. My calls are
Speaker 2: doing like the same thing every single time. It would
Speaker 2: like ring twice and then I'll go straight to voicemail.
Speaker 2: I talked this up to like, okay, he's in a
Speaker 2: bad service area, that sort of thing, but it happened,
Speaker 2: I want to say, like four times in a row.
Speaker 2: So at that point I just was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to go ahead and google, like how do I
Speaker 2: know if someone's blocked me? Because I never could understand
Speaker 2: the answer to this. But it's actually turns out it's
Speaker 2: really easy to do that. Apparently, like you could just
Speaker 2: make your number anonimous. Yeah, to block people.
Speaker 1: You can, just to find out if you're blocked or
Speaker 1: to be blocked, to be blocked.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like this was a lesson for me because like
Speaker 2: apparently like if it rings more than twice before the voicemail,
Speaker 2: that means you're blocked?
Speaker 3: It does or does that mean you're getting sent to voicemail.
Speaker 2: It's blocked, so I mean, okay, either way, it's not okay.
Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, well, I wow, this
Speaker 2: sucks right, And I just went back to my car
Speaker 2: and I was smoking there, like I couldn't even bring
Speaker 2: myself to drive home. I was still bummed out.
Speaker 5: So that's really Enoughmber, I would be frustrated about that,
Speaker 5: especially if you think the date went so well that's yeah,
Speaker 5: you just.
Speaker 3: Want to know why.
Speaker 5: Also, you're like, well, did you do something though, Like
Speaker 5: if you think back to that first date, is there
Speaker 5: any thing that could have happened that would cause the blocking?
Speaker 2: No, And I've asked myself that now, like up and down,
Speaker 2: and I'm for me and I thought it was mutual,
Speaker 2: like we have this insane chemistry that's super rare. So
Speaker 2: that's why I'm so disappointed. I can't come up with
Speaker 2: any reason why, especially after like you know, seeing me
Speaker 2: covered more than once. But he would go to me
Speaker 2: like why wouldn't you just say something?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll try to figure out for you to
Speaker 1: play a song, come back and then call him and
Speaker 1: see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Play song come back get your first Day follow up
Speaker 1: next if you're just joining us for today's First Day
Speaker 1: follow up. Lauren is on the phone and she's getting
Speaker 1: ghosted by a dude named Sammy. So in a second,
Speaker 1: we're gonna call him seevill tell us why he's ghosting
Speaker 1: her and maybe get her another date if she still
Speaker 1: wants one. But before we do that, Lauren, why don't
Speaker 1: you catch us up on your situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, basically, I had like two really nice dates
Speaker 2: with this guy, and I went for date number three
Speaker 2: and he was m I A. And he has not
Speaker 2: talked to me whatsoever. And I don't understand why I'm
Speaker 2: being ghosted.
Speaker 1: And you think you might be blocked even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, blocked me? Why I didn't take him for being
Speaker 2: a coward.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm so com cute. All right? You
Speaker 1: ready for us to call him?
Speaker 2: That's all for me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, here we go. Hello him. I as speaking
Speaker 1: to Sammy please? Uh yeah, this is Sammy. What's up?
Speaker 1: This is Jewbel. My name is Jeubel. I host a
Speaker 1: radio show. It's called the Jubil Show.
Speaker 3: How's it going, Sammy? The whole show's here. I'm Nina,
Speaker 3: Hi and I'm Victoria.
Speaker 1: Oh hi, Hi, all right, you ever listened to the show?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I've ever heard you guys?
Speaker 1: Well, have you ever heard of first a follow up before?
Speaker 2: Uh? I have. I'm starting to get nervous here, But.
Speaker 1: Don't be nervous because we're calling you because somebody did
Speaker 1: send us an email about you. So maybe you'd be nervous.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's a segment where if you're
Speaker 1: ghosting somebody, they can email us to get you on
Speaker 1: the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. And we
Speaker 1: got an email about you from somebody.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think I probably know who you're talking about.
Speaker 1: You want to try to take a guess at the
Speaker 1: Dame Lauren? Yes, Sammy, you're correct. You've won absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: But is Lauren? Do you mind telling us why you're
Speaker 1: ghosting her?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 6: Look, we we texted for a while.
Speaker 2: It was great. We meet for the date.
Speaker 6: Chemistry is there, she's really cool, she's hot. Everything was good,
Speaker 6: and then at some point the conversation turns around to like,
Speaker 6: you know, relationship stuff. You know, we're just talking about
Speaker 6: like relationship things, like you know, we are you ever
Speaker 6: gonna have kids? Are you ever gonna get well, I
Speaker 6: don't know whatever, you know, just stuff like about relationships, okay,
Speaker 6: And at one point I asked her what her definition
Speaker 6: of cheating is If a guy goes to a strip club,
Speaker 6: is that cheating that sort of thing?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And let's just say that her perspective is pretty strict.
Speaker 6: She said even watching adult movies was cheating. That to
Speaker 6: me is like pretty.
Speaker 1: Extreme, and nobody's gonna take that from you.
Speaker 6: So you're saying, it's not like I watched it all
Speaker 6: the time, but it is a part of my life
Speaker 6: and it is okay that I enjoy. I don't know,
Speaker 6: it just feels like that to me. He's not cheating,
Speaker 6: you know, that's just like entertainment.
Speaker 5: So did you have that conversation with her and like
Speaker 5: express your concern with her line that you do in
Speaker 5: regards to adult film.
Speaker 6: I mean, I just kind of got awkward and it
Speaker 6: kind of gave me the ick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it was weird.
Speaker 3: I gave you an Okay, that's that's new.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be a cheater,
Speaker 6: Like if we got together, like I'd be cheating on
Speaker 6: her all the time. You know, it's like she can
Speaker 6: feel however she wants to feel, and that's totally fine.
Speaker 6: But I just kind of realized, like maybe this wasn't
Speaker 6: like a long term thing, and I maybe I should
Speaker 6: have said something I didn't. I mean, this happened in
Speaker 6: like the first forty five minutes of the date, and
Speaker 6: it was like four hours long, and like you know,
Speaker 6: you know, she spent the night and it was great.
Speaker 3: You know, that was fun.
Speaker 6: But the whole time, I was just kind of this
Speaker 6: is in the back of my mind, and I just
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you say to that. Do you say, like,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, I gotta watch a don't move.
Speaker 5: I feel like I would want to get to the
Speaker 5: bottom of it and kind of understand why that was
Speaker 5: such a hard line for somebody. Yeah, because I think
Speaker 5: we asked those questions in the beginning of a date,
Speaker 5: whether it's about the adult film or just like do
Speaker 5: you want to get married? But like to understand where
Speaker 5: the person comes from, and sometimes that's sometimes that sparks
Speaker 5: a conversation that helps the other person see where you're
Speaker 5: coming from and you can change your mind a little bit.
Speaker 5: She might have been into it if she was like,
Speaker 5: it's not cheating if you watch it with me.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Can I just say something right now, it is absolutely
Speaker 2: textbook cheating, like no matter who he's watching it.
Speaker 6: With, Sammy, Wait a minute, Lauren, Wait, Lauren's here.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's Lauren. She's on the phone listening and wants
Speaker 1: to talk to me.
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I came here to get answered. This was not
Speaker 2: one I was expecting to get of all the reasons
Speaker 2: that could be. But you know, like I have sort
Speaker 2: of been wondering, like why he was so like animated
Speaker 2: turns sect and I'm like, maybe he was mimicking a performance,
Speaker 2: like he's had any experience watching these tutorials. If you will,
Speaker 2: you see, it can be a good thing. I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: And you know, while we're putting everything out on the
Speaker 2: table right now, I just want to ask something like,
Speaker 2: you know, we went on two dates, so there was
Speaker 2: a little bit of time in between, you know, Gate
Speaker 2: one and date two. So what were you doing during
Speaker 2: that time? Were you spending your time like prepping, you know,
Speaker 2: watching all these videos cheating?
Speaker 1: You know, what were you doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I watched some videos in between. That's what people do. Okay,
Speaker 2: So the gist of it is you were cheating on me.
Speaker 2: We weren't experiences. We'd gone on a date. What are
Speaker 2: you talking about? You know, this is cheating against textbooks, cheating.
Speaker 2: It should just be between two people. It's it's to me,
Speaker 2: it's no different than cheating, swinging, watching for it's all
Speaker 2: the same group, it all together, and hearing like thinking
Speaker 2: that you're amazing. But it turns out I've been blinded
Speaker 2: by something because you could not even say faithful to
Speaker 2: me for two dates.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look, it wasn't like I was watching
Speaker 6: videos of girls that looked like you. I was watching
Speaker 6: videos of like other types of the matter what they
Speaker 6: look like, Lauren, we went on two dates. We it's
Speaker 6: not like we were in gates like. This is wild
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 2: Really, you're forgetting in those four Actually it was six
Speaker 2: hours that we spent together, not four like you said.
Speaker 2: I guess you're forgetting half the things you said to
Speaker 2: me juring that day. But this is cool, it's fine.
Speaker 6: I didn't make commitments and I'm am I in single
Speaker 6: white female right now? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Is that another adult video?
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah.
Speaker 2: About a crazy girl.
Speaker 6: I'm scared. I don't know this is wild, man.
Speaker 2: I really don't think you would be acting pretty nor
Speaker 2: I think you'd be pretty crazy if you just found
Speaker 2: out you got cheated on too, okay.
Speaker 6: Buddy, If you came to me and said, hey, I
Speaker 6: was watching a bunch of porn this week, I'd be like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 6: look I didn't see it on you. We weren't together.
Speaker 6: We went on two days.
Speaker 2: This is not okay. You can come up with an excuse, Havers,
Speaker 2: you try to, like, you know, flop it all over
Speaker 2: and whatever you want to say, but like, you're a
Speaker 2: cheater and I do not ever want to see you again.
Speaker 1: I haven't asked yet, Sammy, would you like to go
Speaker 1: on another day with Laura? Will pay for it?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: No, I would like to log into my internet and
Speaker 6: watch some art films now, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, I think that's really just proved my point
Speaker 2: that I've been talking about with my friends, like every
Speaker 2: single guy out there is a cheater in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a good way to put it, but.
Speaker 6: Sure, all right, Lauren, you know I just nobody asked
Speaker 6: you to talk
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