1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,235 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I 2 00:00:22,275 --> 00:00:25,875 Speaker 1: am beginning to suspect that Trump's lawyer Todd Blanche is 3 00:00:25,915 --> 00:00:30,315 Speaker 1: going to find it hard to get paid, so his 4 00:00:30,475 --> 00:00:34,275 Speaker 1: final defense witness so disrespected the judge that the judge 5 00:00:34,275 --> 00:00:37,315 Speaker 1: cleared the courtroom in order to scream at the man. 6 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:42,195 Speaker 1: His gotcha moment from last week was disproved yesterday by 7 00:00:42,315 --> 00:00:47,475 Speaker 1: not just videotape, but c span videotape at his gotcha 8 00:00:47,515 --> 00:00:50,675 Speaker 1: moment from this week from yesterday that he got Michael 9 00:00:50,715 --> 00:00:53,755 Speaker 1: Cohen to admit he had stolen money from Trump's company, 10 00:00:54,635 --> 00:00:56,755 Speaker 1: turned out to have already been brought up in testimony 11 00:00:56,795 --> 00:01:02,075 Speaker 1: a week ago, and both times it underscores that either 12 00:01:02,155 --> 00:01:06,595 Speaker 1: Trump illegally listed that stolen money as a reimbursement to 13 00:01:06,635 --> 00:01:11,155 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, which they deny, or Trump illegally listed the 14 00:01:11,195 --> 00:01:13,795 Speaker 1: stolen money as legal expenses, which is what he is 15 00:01:13,835 --> 00:01:19,715 Speaker 1: on trial for doing. And lawyer Todd Blanche also let 16 00:01:19,715 --> 00:01:22,515 Speaker 1: his client be caught not just dozing off like every 17 00:01:22,515 --> 00:01:24,675 Speaker 1: other day in court, but to quote the New York 18 00:01:24,755 --> 00:01:29,595 Speaker 1: Daily News, it appeared Trump was fully out and just 19 00:01:29,755 --> 00:01:33,955 Speaker 1: woke up. His head was tipped back so far that 20 00:01:34,035 --> 00:01:37,115 Speaker 1: he would have been looking at the ceiling when he 21 00:01:37,275 --> 00:01:42,115 Speaker 1: opened his eyes. In other words, Trump was this close 22 00:01:42,635 --> 00:01:47,875 Speaker 1: to drooling the drool of regret into the pillow of remorse, 23 00:01:49,595 --> 00:01:53,435 Speaker 1: and there was a little issue afterwards. The first item 24 00:01:53,715 --> 00:01:58,795 Speaker 1: letter A on the gag order against Trump defended is 25 00:01:58,835 --> 00:02:03,075 Speaker 1: directed to refrain from making or directing others to make 26 00:02:03,635 --> 00:02:10,715 Speaker 1: public statements about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses. He talked 27 00:02:10,795 --> 00:02:16,275 Speaker 1: afterwards about a witness. Wait, this just in't I'm being told. 28 00:02:16,635 --> 00:02:20,035 Speaker 1: He talked afterwards about two witnesses. 29 00:02:19,715 --> 00:02:22,795 Speaker 2: And he saw what happened to a highly respected lawyer today, 30 00:02:23,515 --> 00:02:28,515 Speaker 2: Bob Costello. I've never seen anything like the highlight respect 31 00:02:28,995 --> 00:02:33,395 Speaker 2: the last five weeks, Andy Madara, to show he saw 32 00:02:33,555 --> 00:02:35,395 Speaker 2: from the Trump organization. 33 00:02:35,315 --> 00:02:38,075 Speaker 3: Even if they're structuring a DATO up. 34 00:02:38,435 --> 00:02:41,475 Speaker 1: And now I can't talk about it because again I 35 00:02:41,515 --> 00:02:46,755 Speaker 1: have a even he knows he just broke the gag 36 00:02:47,115 --> 00:02:51,155 Speaker 1: order after the last time, after the last ten times. 37 00:02:51,195 --> 00:02:54,275 Speaker 1: To be exact, Justice Wan Meershaan was explicit that next 38 00:02:54,275 --> 00:02:58,155 Speaker 1: time he would have to consider jailing Trump well. Trump 39 00:02:58,195 --> 00:03:00,635 Speaker 1: talked about witness Robert Costello, the one whom the judge 40 00:03:00,675 --> 00:03:03,995 Speaker 1: metaphorically kicked in the gonads as the day came to 41 00:03:04,035 --> 00:03:06,195 Speaker 1: a roaring end. And then as you heard, he talked 42 00:03:06,195 --> 00:03:09,875 Speaker 1: about witness Michael Cohen, and as the judge has also 43 00:03:09,955 --> 00:03:13,315 Speaker 1: explicitly stated, it doesn't matter if he's reading or quoting 44 00:03:13,355 --> 00:03:18,715 Speaker 1: somebody else's words, it's him talking about a witness. If 45 00:03:18,715 --> 00:03:21,595 Speaker 1: there is any remaining doubt in Mershon's mind that the 46 00:03:21,635 --> 00:03:23,795 Speaker 1: premise of the Trump defense is not some kind of 47 00:03:23,875 --> 00:03:27,235 Speaker 1: refutation of the charges, but is instead merely an all 48 00:03:27,435 --> 00:03:32,235 Speaker 1: out attack on the rule of law by any means available, 49 00:03:33,075 --> 00:03:35,355 Speaker 1: an all out attack on the judge, on the court, 50 00:03:35,475 --> 00:03:38,715 Speaker 1: on its authority to dare to thwart Trump, the man 51 00:03:38,755 --> 00:03:42,955 Speaker 1: who wants to put the dick back in dictator. If 52 00:03:42,995 --> 00:03:46,115 Speaker 1: there is any remaining doubt in Jan Merschan's mind about this, 53 00:03:46,235 --> 00:03:49,395 Speaker 1: he must erase it. This is why the outburst from 54 00:03:49,435 --> 00:03:53,395 Speaker 1: the witness, Robert Costello, who is an attorney, where he 55 00:03:53,435 --> 00:03:56,675 Speaker 1: complained about Mershon's rulings in real time as they happen, 56 00:03:56,955 --> 00:04:00,315 Speaker 1: This could be the last straw that finally sends Trump 57 00:04:00,515 --> 00:04:04,595 Speaker 1: to the Big House. That was Trump's witness. The prosecution 58 00:04:04,835 --> 00:04:08,075 Speaker 1: fought Merchon to keep him out. Merchon sided with the defense. 59 00:04:08,195 --> 00:04:11,715 Speaker 1: The witness then metaphorically spit in Mershon's face. Not good 60 00:04:11,715 --> 00:04:17,635 Speaker 1: on the old strategicy front, Bob. Regardless, I don't care 61 00:04:18,195 --> 00:04:20,475 Speaker 1: if it's for the rest of Trump's life or just 62 00:04:20,515 --> 00:04:23,475 Speaker 1: for the rest of the day. Mershon has to put 63 00:04:23,555 --> 00:04:26,155 Speaker 1: him in jail now, and to my mind, today would 64 00:04:26,155 --> 00:04:28,115 Speaker 1: be a good day to do it. They're gonna break 65 00:04:28,115 --> 00:04:31,635 Speaker 1: for the holiday, come back next Tuesday, give him an 66 00:04:31,635 --> 00:04:35,915 Speaker 1: all expenses paid, never to be forgotten Memorial Day weekend 67 00:04:35,955 --> 00:04:40,395 Speaker 1: at Rikers Island. I mean, at this point it's pretty 68 00:04:40,395 --> 00:04:43,475 Speaker 1: clear Trump won't really understand where he is anyway. As 69 00:04:43,595 --> 00:04:48,195 Speaker 1: court began yesterday, he did not know what month it was, 70 00:04:48,995 --> 00:04:52,835 Speaker 1: or where he was supposedly campaigning this week, or where 71 00:04:53,115 --> 00:04:58,035 Speaker 1: the next election or primary or whatever is. He decided 72 00:04:58,075 --> 00:05:01,715 Speaker 1: he was being kept from advocating for himself before the 73 00:05:01,755 --> 00:05:07,395 Speaker 1: primaries in Hampshire and Iowa, which happened last January. Natzie 74 00:05:07,395 --> 00:05:10,195 Speaker 1: Fagan and we go on day to day. 75 00:05:10,235 --> 00:05:12,235 Speaker 3: And I didn't kind of tell Iowa, I'm sorry. I 76 00:05:12,275 --> 00:05:15,435 Speaker 3: only ever Megan, I tell no, Andrew, sorry, I won't 77 00:05:15,475 --> 00:05:17,395 Speaker 3: be over to Magan. I'm sitting in a nice box 78 00:05:17,435 --> 00:05:19,995 Speaker 3: over there. As you know, I was supposed to be 79 00:05:20,075 --> 00:05:21,715 Speaker 3: in a. 80 00:05:21,075 --> 00:05:21,875 Speaker 4: Very different state. 81 00:05:22,035 --> 00:05:26,395 Speaker 1: Is a different state, the state of being asleep? Am 82 00:05:26,395 --> 00:05:32,635 Speaker 1: I right? By the way, the money Cohen stole, And 83 00:05:32,675 --> 00:05:34,915 Speaker 1: by the way, I've seen nothing funnier in the last 84 00:05:34,995 --> 00:05:37,875 Speaker 1: decade than Eric Trump writing that this just got interesting 85 00:05:37,915 --> 00:05:40,835 Speaker 1: because Cohen admitted for the second time that he swiped 86 00:05:40,875 --> 00:05:45,995 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars when Eric has self dealt on kids 87 00:05:46,075 --> 00:05:50,595 Speaker 1: cancer charities in the millions. The money Cohen stole was 88 00:05:50,675 --> 00:05:54,315 Speaker 1: reimbursement for a company that was helping him and Trump 89 00:05:54,595 --> 00:05:59,955 Speaker 1: fix a CNBC opinion poll about influential businessmen fix it 90 00:05:59,995 --> 00:06:02,635 Speaker 1: in Trump's favor, and they could only get Trump up 91 00:06:02,675 --> 00:06:07,835 Speaker 1: to ninth on the list, so Trump stiff them. Also 92 00:06:07,955 --> 00:06:14,235 Speaker 1: notable the Trump posse, the Republicans, the Renfields. A week ago, 93 00:06:14,275 --> 00:06:16,635 Speaker 1: it was the Speaker of the House. I don't know 94 00:06:16,635 --> 00:06:18,675 Speaker 1: how the hell he became Speaker of the House, but 95 00:06:18,755 --> 00:06:22,075 Speaker 1: he's Speaker of the House. And a bunch of corrupt 96 00:06:22,155 --> 00:06:30,355 Speaker 1: senators yesterday, Representative Keith's self, Representative Mary Miller, who is nuts, 97 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:34,355 Speaker 1: who quoted Hitler at a stop the Steel rally, whose 98 00:06:34,435 --> 00:06:37,275 Speaker 1: hobby had one of those three percent militia stickers on it, 99 00:06:37,915 --> 00:06:43,875 Speaker 1: and Representative Andy Clyde, also known as Andy clown, the 100 00:06:43,915 --> 00:06:47,315 Speaker 1: one who said that January sixth was just a normal 101 00:06:47,435 --> 00:06:53,195 Speaker 1: tourist visit. Yes, it has happened in our lifetimes. They 102 00:06:53,195 --> 00:07:01,275 Speaker 1: are officially out of posse. Trump officially can no longer 103 00:07:03,595 --> 00:07:34,195 Speaker 1: grab them by the posse. I'm still working sick with 104 00:07:34,275 --> 00:07:37,755 Speaker 1: this sinus infection, so I'm particularly proud of that one line. 105 00:07:37,795 --> 00:07:41,835 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna say it again, Trump can no 106 00:07:41,915 --> 00:07:48,115 Speaker 1: longer grab them by the posse. The other Trump headlines 107 00:07:48,115 --> 00:07:50,675 Speaker 1: He's supposed to have a rally in the South Bronx 108 00:07:51,355 --> 00:07:56,715 Speaker 1: day after tomorrow. He joked to donors that he fears 109 00:07:56,715 --> 00:08:01,475 Speaker 1: he might get hurt there as a native of the 110 00:08:01,515 --> 00:08:05,835 Speaker 1: Bronx and the descendant of South Bronxians, I would say 111 00:08:05,875 --> 00:08:07,835 Speaker 1: this is the first sign I have seen in months 112 00:08:08,035 --> 00:08:11,235 Speaker 1: that he may not be crazy. By the way, the 113 00:08:11,235 --> 00:08:14,595 Speaker 1: New York Times reported the little joke that he made 114 00:08:14,635 --> 00:08:20,875 Speaker 1: to his donors. Guess which reporter reported that, no, wasn't 115 00:08:20,955 --> 00:08:26,795 Speaker 1: Katie Terry Trump's Taylor Swift. Meanwhile, Kid rock interview with 116 00:08:26,875 --> 00:08:31,195 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone in it uses racial slurs, including the N word, 117 00:08:31,755 --> 00:08:35,595 Speaker 1: boasts he is part of America's political problem, and then 118 00:08:36,275 --> 00:08:39,195 Speaker 1: already drunk on wine and switching off to Jim Beam 119 00:08:39,355 --> 00:08:42,755 Speaker 1: and Cola quote He's sitting in a dark leather chair 120 00:08:42,795 --> 00:08:45,235 Speaker 1: shouting at me about something or other, when he reaches 121 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:48,795 Speaker 1: behind the seat, pulls out a black handgun and waves 122 00:08:48,835 --> 00:08:51,195 Speaker 1: it around to make some sort of point rock then notes, 123 00:08:51,195 --> 00:08:54,595 Speaker 1: and I got an fing g damn gun right here. 124 00:08:54,675 --> 00:08:59,595 Speaker 1: If I needed, I got them everywhere. And somewhere Ted 125 00:08:59,675 --> 00:09:02,755 Speaker 1: Nugent is chewing on his knuckles, going, I have to 126 00:09:02,795 --> 00:09:08,275 Speaker 1: do better. I must do better than remember last week's Trump. 127 00:09:08,315 --> 00:09:12,275 Speaker 1: Why the eighty thousand crowd in New Jersey, eighty thousand 128 00:09:12,315 --> 00:09:16,435 Speaker 1: at Wildwood, New Jersey, one hundred thousand, two million, whatever 129 00:09:16,435 --> 00:09:21,155 Speaker 1: it was. Nope, it's been withdrawn from New Jersey Insider 130 00:09:21,275 --> 00:09:26,035 Speaker 1: NJ insider Lisa Fagan. I don't make these names up. 131 00:09:26,195 --> 00:09:31,995 Speaker 1: Lisa Fagan, the Wildwood Press spokesperson the Associated Press originally 132 00:09:32,035 --> 00:09:35,475 Speaker 1: cited as the source for the original crowd estimate, was 133 00:09:35,595 --> 00:09:39,715 Speaker 1: quoted as saying the eye popping estimate was based off 134 00:09:39,755 --> 00:09:43,675 Speaker 1: her own observations on the scene Saturday, having seen dozens 135 00:09:43,675 --> 00:09:46,675 Speaker 1: of other events in the same space. Five days later, 136 00:09:46,755 --> 00:09:50,515 Speaker 1: when asked to explain the wide variance between the AP 137 00:09:50,675 --> 00:09:54,115 Speaker 1: reporting and the New Jersey dot Com video that reveals 138 00:09:54,155 --> 00:09:58,115 Speaker 1: a crowd in the few thousands. Fagan provided a statement 139 00:09:58,155 --> 00:10:03,115 Speaker 1: from Mayor Treyano of Wildwood at odds with what the 140 00:10:03,155 --> 00:10:07,955 Speaker 1: Wire Service initially attributed to Fagan quote. As a tourist town, 141 00:10:08,595 --> 00:10:13,275 Speaker 1: we speak in tourism numbers, Tryana wrote. When we see 142 00:10:13,315 --> 00:10:16,395 Speaker 1: that volume of people attending a beach event, we know 143 00:10:16,555 --> 00:10:24,315 Speaker 1: that eighty thousand plus people are in our town. Now 144 00:10:24,475 --> 00:10:28,875 Speaker 1: I know that's Trumpian bookkeeping in a nutshell right there. 145 00:10:29,195 --> 00:10:33,555 Speaker 1: Your crowd is maybe seventy two hundred. You announced it's 146 00:10:33,595 --> 00:10:38,555 Speaker 1: eighty thousand or more because you and only you know that. 147 00:10:38,635 --> 00:10:41,075 Speaker 1: You mean that that's how many people must be in 148 00:10:41,155 --> 00:10:46,355 Speaker 1: the whole town, because there's seven thousand people in that 149 00:10:46,395 --> 00:10:49,435 Speaker 1: one part of the town. And you know, you could 150 00:10:49,515 --> 00:10:53,595 Speaker 1: criticize this, but remember it could be way worse. The 151 00:10:53,715 --> 00:10:58,515 Speaker 1: mayor theoretically could have claimed that the crowd was three 152 00:10:58,635 --> 00:11:01,915 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three million, three hundred thousand, because that, 153 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:04,115 Speaker 1: of course is how many people would be in our 154 00:11:04,235 --> 00:11:08,075 Speaker 1: country when there's seventy two hundred people in that one space. 155 00:11:09,555 --> 00:11:13,475 Speaker 1: And lastly, in the Trump News this update on the 156 00:11:13,515 --> 00:11:19,195 Speaker 1: presidential debates, did I tell you he would find an 157 00:11:19,195 --> 00:11:22,395 Speaker 1: excuse to back out did I tell you that he 158 00:11:22,435 --> 00:11:27,235 Speaker 1: would soon be preparing a series of excuses to back out, 159 00:11:28,275 --> 00:11:32,035 Speaker 1: that eventually he would take the one that seemed the 160 00:11:32,155 --> 00:11:37,035 Speaker 1: least stupid. Well, he hasn't gotten to the least stupid yet, 161 00:11:37,315 --> 00:11:40,395 Speaker 1: but he's preparing to back out, and he will back out. 162 00:11:40,755 --> 00:11:43,195 Speaker 4: I just want to debate this guy, but you know, 163 00:11:44,395 --> 00:11:46,315 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna I'm going to demand a drug test 164 00:11:46,355 --> 00:11:56,915 Speaker 4: to By the way, I am, No, I really am. 165 00:11:56,995 --> 00:12:01,515 Speaker 1: Now to the sam Alito freak flag scandal Part three. No, 166 00:12:01,635 --> 00:12:04,355 Speaker 1: he has not changed his story again. Still it's the 167 00:12:04,355 --> 00:12:08,155 Speaker 1: why fault. Still, it's the school kids who could see 168 00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:10,715 Speaker 1: the sign as they waited for the bus that hadn't 169 00:12:10,755 --> 00:12:13,235 Speaker 1: been there for a month because it was remote learning. 170 00:12:13,755 --> 00:12:16,915 Speaker 1: He hasn't changed the story since he changed it on Friday. 171 00:12:17,555 --> 00:12:19,875 Speaker 1: Still has not suggested, by the way, in any of 172 00:12:19,955 --> 00:12:23,635 Speaker 1: the variations of his stories, that he might believe that, say, 173 00:12:23,675 --> 00:12:26,955 Speaker 1: a sitting justice of the Supreme Court of the United 174 00:12:26,955 --> 00:12:32,035 Speaker 1: States letting any kind of protest flag hang in public 175 00:12:32,795 --> 00:12:35,155 Speaker 1: from the flag pole in front of his own house 176 00:12:35,995 --> 00:12:40,235 Speaker 1: for at least three days is wrong, whether it's a 177 00:12:41,395 --> 00:12:45,115 Speaker 1: flag indicating stop the steal or steal the stop or 178 00:12:45,155 --> 00:12:50,075 Speaker 1: Antifa or support for Canada. Doesn't seem to think there's 179 00:12:50,075 --> 00:12:53,275 Speaker 1: anything wrong with that, has not denied that there was 180 00:12:53,315 --> 00:12:56,475 Speaker 1: a protest, and has not for the second or for 181 00:12:56,555 --> 00:12:59,955 Speaker 1: a moment, suggested that he and his family did not 182 00:13:00,075 --> 00:13:02,435 Speaker 1: have the right to do that while they were still 183 00:13:02,795 --> 00:13:06,595 Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court can considering cases that could have 184 00:13:06,675 --> 00:13:09,755 Speaker 1: decided or reversed the outcome of the twenty twenty election. 185 00:13:10,675 --> 00:13:18,155 Speaker 1: And still relative silence from the Democrats because because we 186 00:13:18,275 --> 00:13:22,555 Speaker 1: have a bunch of cowards on our team. Although there 187 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:25,635 Speaker 1: is a good idea and we'll see if anybody does 188 00:13:25,675 --> 00:13:28,355 Speaker 1: anything about it. There is a new development, a theory 189 00:13:28,715 --> 00:13:32,955 Speaker 1: that the upside down flag from January twenty twenty one 190 00:13:33,275 --> 00:13:36,355 Speaker 1: from Martha Ann Alito it was all her fault. What 191 00:13:36,395 --> 00:13:39,075 Speaker 1: does sam Alito know from the flag sitting there and 192 00:13:39,195 --> 00:13:41,795 Speaker 1: the giant flagpole in front of his house? What does 193 00:13:41,835 --> 00:13:44,155 Speaker 1: he know from that? He never looks at the flag 194 00:13:44,195 --> 00:13:46,595 Speaker 1: in front of his own house. He barely goes to 195 00:13:46,675 --> 00:13:51,595 Speaker 1: his own house. Who's Martha Anne Alexandria Virginia. I don't 196 00:13:51,635 --> 00:13:59,275 Speaker 1: know her. There is a new theory that the upside 197 00:13:59,355 --> 00:14:03,195 Speaker 1: down flag is part of a political pattern for which 198 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:06,635 Speaker 1: Alito should be punished in some way. The former legal 199 00:14:06,795 --> 00:14:12,115 Speaker 1: editor at BuzzFeed, Chris Geidner, reports that in late August 200 00:14:12,115 --> 00:14:15,515 Speaker 1: of last year, as the witch who calls herself libs 201 00:14:15,595 --> 00:14:20,035 Speaker 1: of TikTok continued to attack bud Light and the company 202 00:14:20,035 --> 00:14:24,955 Speaker 1: that owns it, and the influencer Dylan mulvany, that somebody 203 00:14:25,195 --> 00:14:29,515 Speaker 1: sold up to fifteen thousand dollars in stock in the 204 00:14:29,595 --> 00:14:35,635 Speaker 1: parent company of bud Light. Guess who sam Alito August 205 00:14:35,755 --> 00:14:40,075 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, indicating a pattern of political protest which 206 00:14:40,155 --> 00:14:43,635 Speaker 1: violates the requirements that all judges, even the ones on 207 00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:48,155 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, must stay publicly apolitical. Well, I think 208 00:14:48,235 --> 00:14:50,915 Speaker 1: that ship sailed a long time ago. Like that speech 209 00:14:50,955 --> 00:14:54,555 Speaker 1: that he gave after he visited the Vatican last year, 210 00:14:54,915 --> 00:14:57,955 Speaker 1: in which he mocked everybody who wasn't Catholic, I think 211 00:14:58,195 --> 00:15:01,275 Speaker 1: sam Alito's concern about whether or not we might perceive 212 00:15:01,355 --> 00:15:05,715 Speaker 1: him as political that may have waned. He may not 213 00:15:05,835 --> 00:15:07,395 Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night going gee, 214 00:15:07,435 --> 00:15:10,435 Speaker 1: I hope nobody thinks I'm political. But in any event, 215 00:15:10,475 --> 00:15:13,795 Speaker 1: here's the argument. In August of twenty twenty three, according 216 00:15:13,795 --> 00:15:16,715 Speaker 1: to the official filings, he sold between one thousand and 217 00:15:16,795 --> 00:15:22,155 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars in at least that amount and at 218 00:15:22,235 --> 00:15:27,035 Speaker 1: least some of his stock in Anheuser Busch, and this 219 00:15:27,075 --> 00:15:31,475 Speaker 1: federal Chris Geidner, writing at lawdork dot Com wrote, according 220 00:15:31,475 --> 00:15:35,835 Speaker 1: to the Federal Judicial Financial Disclosure Reports database, Justice Samuel 221 00:15:35,915 --> 00:15:38,675 Speaker 1: Alito sold at least some of his stock in Anheuser 222 00:15:38,715 --> 00:15:43,235 Speaker 1: Busch and bought stock in Molsen Cores on Monday, August fourteenth, 223 00:15:43,315 --> 00:15:48,555 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So he switched brands. Here's the problem 224 00:15:48,555 --> 00:15:52,155 Speaker 1: with that. I have no respect whatsoever for Sam Alito, 225 00:15:52,235 --> 00:15:54,915 Speaker 1: and I have no respect for the justices on the 226 00:15:54,915 --> 00:15:58,555 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, who, because they are lifetime appointees, have basically 227 00:15:58,635 --> 00:16:01,035 Speaker 1: said f you to everybody else in all the rules, 228 00:16:01,195 --> 00:16:04,555 Speaker 1: and this includes the liberals. But the frick of scene 229 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:10,475 Speaker 1: of Dylan mulvaney and Bud Light began in April of 230 00:16:10,515 --> 00:16:13,155 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and we're now talking about something towards 231 00:16:13,155 --> 00:16:16,635 Speaker 1: the middle of August, August fourteenth, twenty twenty three. And 232 00:16:16,675 --> 00:16:20,275 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself if you accept the idea 233 00:16:20,315 --> 00:16:23,715 Speaker 1: that a judge, or particularly a justice of the United 234 00:16:23,715 --> 00:16:26,435 Speaker 1: States justice of the Supreme Court, has the right to 235 00:16:26,555 --> 00:16:29,315 Speaker 1: own stock, which is a debate, and I can see 236 00:16:29,395 --> 00:16:32,755 Speaker 1: arguments on both sides of it. Does he not have 237 00:16:32,835 --> 00:16:35,115 Speaker 1: the right to bail out of a stock that has 238 00:16:35,155 --> 00:16:38,715 Speaker 1: been failing from April onwards, even if it's his side 239 00:16:38,715 --> 00:16:42,155 Speaker 1: of the political ball that has caused the failure. Does 240 00:16:42,195 --> 00:16:45,435 Speaker 1: he not, by August have the right to sell up 241 00:16:45,435 --> 00:16:48,115 Speaker 1: to fifteen thousand dollars worth of his investment and put 242 00:16:48,155 --> 00:16:51,475 Speaker 1: it in a different beer stock. I just don't think 243 00:16:51,555 --> 00:16:56,475 Speaker 1: this is the real pattern. Now, if he sold the 244 00:16:56,475 --> 00:17:00,995 Speaker 1: stock and then she puts out the hit on Dylan mulvainy, 245 00:17:01,075 --> 00:17:04,475 Speaker 1: that's another story altogether. That's insider trading. But to call 246 00:17:04,515 --> 00:17:08,475 Speaker 1: the insider trading I think is nonsensical. Is Alito a 247 00:17:08,555 --> 00:17:12,675 Speaker 1: political sheep in sheep's clothing? Yes, of course. And again, 248 00:17:12,715 --> 00:17:15,715 Speaker 1: should Supreme Court justices be able to own stocks? A 249 00:17:15,795 --> 00:17:18,595 Speaker 1: much better question, But even that's kind of thin gruel 250 00:17:18,635 --> 00:17:21,755 Speaker 1: for this. On the other hand, as in all stories 251 00:17:21,795 --> 00:17:24,995 Speaker 1: in the timeline in which we live, a vital detail 252 00:17:25,075 --> 00:17:28,035 Speaker 1: of the original story was missed because all of us 253 00:17:28,035 --> 00:17:30,115 Speaker 1: who are looking for stuff like this have been going 254 00:17:30,115 --> 00:17:33,875 Speaker 1: at about oh thirty seven hundred percent of personal capacity 255 00:17:33,995 --> 00:17:37,275 Speaker 1: since sometime in the summer of twenty fifteen. In the 256 00:17:37,315 --> 00:17:41,875 Speaker 1: original New York Times story about sam Alito's stop the 257 00:17:41,955 --> 00:17:47,155 Speaker 1: steel flag at his house. I own a host. Word 258 00:17:47,355 --> 00:17:50,915 Speaker 1: of the flag filtered back to the court, people who 259 00:17:50,955 --> 00:17:54,475 Speaker 1: work there, said in interviews. Word of the flag filtered 260 00:17:54,515 --> 00:17:59,395 Speaker 1: back to the court? We who New York Times, you 261 00:17:59,475 --> 00:18:04,155 Speaker 1: mean to Chief Justice Roberts, since he's nominally in charge, 262 00:18:04,395 --> 00:18:09,635 Speaker 1: or or a janitor somewhere, or a clerk. I mean, 263 00:18:09,795 --> 00:18:12,595 Speaker 1: remember who the clerks are, particularly on the conservative side, 264 00:18:14,035 --> 00:18:18,195 Speaker 1: who they become. Laura Ingram was one of Clarence Thomas's clerks. 265 00:18:18,195 --> 00:18:19,995 Speaker 1: I think that's all you need to know about who 266 00:18:20,035 --> 00:18:22,595 Speaker 1: those people are. But what are we saying here? We're 267 00:18:22,595 --> 00:18:26,835 Speaker 1: saying Chief Justice Roberts knew about this months ago, years 268 00:18:26,875 --> 00:18:29,795 Speaker 1: ago and didn't do anything about it. Well, is that 269 00:18:29,915 --> 00:18:33,435 Speaker 1: not enough? Just that, whether it's Roberts or somebody else, 270 00:18:33,795 --> 00:18:35,955 Speaker 1: just that one phrase in the New York Times, word 271 00:18:35,995 --> 00:18:38,475 Speaker 1: of the flag filtered back to the court, people who 272 00:18:38,515 --> 00:18:41,115 Speaker 1: worked there set in interviews, and the rest of it 273 00:18:41,195 --> 00:18:45,475 Speaker 1: in there. Does that not suggest we need hearings. Congressman 274 00:18:45,515 --> 00:18:48,515 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen has moved to censure sam Alito. There is, 275 00:18:48,555 --> 00:18:50,915 Speaker 1: of course, one small problem with that, which is that 276 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:57,035 Speaker 1: the House is controlled by the Democrats. No controlled by 277 00:18:57,035 --> 00:19:01,795 Speaker 1: the Republicans. Well, there goes the idea that justice or truth, 278 00:19:02,075 --> 00:19:08,115 Speaker 1: or morality or the law will be enforced to censure. 279 00:19:08,275 --> 00:19:11,875 Speaker 1: Sam Alito would just use the Barney Rubble test, would 280 00:19:11,915 --> 00:19:17,555 Speaker 1: require Congresswoman Barney Rubble to vote for it. But there 281 00:19:17,675 --> 00:19:21,315 Speaker 1: is a Judiciary committee that is run by Democrats. It 282 00:19:21,395 --> 00:19:24,635 Speaker 1: is in the Senate. Unfortunately, it is run by Dick Durbin, 283 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:29,195 Speaker 1: who is either afraid of something somebody has on him 284 00:19:29,195 --> 00:19:32,595 Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court, or is the last guy in 285 00:19:32,675 --> 00:19:37,395 Speaker 1: America who buys into this idea that the Supreme Court 286 00:19:38,395 --> 00:19:42,555 Speaker 1: is somehow better than say, the Supreme Theocratic Court of Iran. 287 00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:46,995 Speaker 1: This sanctity of the Supreme Court, he's the last one 288 00:19:46,995 --> 00:19:50,235 Speaker 1: who believes it. I don't think sam Alito believes it anymore, 289 00:19:50,275 --> 00:19:53,075 Speaker 1: and apparently Dick Durbin does. And they're not doing a 290 00:19:53,155 --> 00:19:55,875 Speaker 1: damn thing except saying you really need to put in 291 00:19:55,915 --> 00:20:02,835 Speaker 1: some sort of etiquette and social responsibility and morality clause. Oh, 292 00:20:02,955 --> 00:20:05,235 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry. I didn't mean morality, just conduct 293 00:20:05,235 --> 00:20:08,195 Speaker 1: caused eye. I'm sorry. There wasn't getting into morality. Clarence Thomas, 294 00:20:08,235 --> 00:20:10,755 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We're not talking about all that 295 00:20:10,795 --> 00:20:12,235 Speaker 1: stuff again with the videotapes. 296 00:20:12,275 --> 00:20:13,035 Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no. 297 00:20:15,555 --> 00:20:22,155 Speaker 1: Here was the theory. Originally, you could subpoena John Roberts 298 00:20:22,235 --> 00:20:26,595 Speaker 1: and Sam Alito and ask them under oath, what about 299 00:20:26,595 --> 00:20:31,515 Speaker 1: this flag jazz at a Senate hearing or somewhere else 300 00:20:31,875 --> 00:20:35,755 Speaker 1: in which Democrats could force the hearing to happen, And 301 00:20:35,835 --> 00:20:38,315 Speaker 1: of course somebody would sue to stop their testimony, and 302 00:20:38,395 --> 00:20:41,515 Speaker 1: guess where that would eventually wind up. The Supreme Court 303 00:20:41,555 --> 00:20:44,155 Speaker 1: would rule on whether or not those Supreme Court justices 304 00:20:44,555 --> 00:20:47,075 Speaker 1: had to testify. And of course, even if by a 305 00:20:47,195 --> 00:20:52,195 Speaker 1: chance Roberts and Alito or Thomas and Alito were subpoened 306 00:20:52,675 --> 00:20:56,355 Speaker 1: and thus really felt the need to recuse, oh guess what, 307 00:20:56,915 --> 00:21:01,555 Speaker 1: it's still four conservative votes to three liberal votes. However, 308 00:21:02,475 --> 00:21:07,675 Speaker 1: as always, Brian Boutler off message once a Countdown contributor 309 00:21:08,675 --> 00:21:13,355 Speaker 1: has a better idea. Subpoena not Roberts or Alito or Thomas, 310 00:21:13,475 --> 00:21:19,315 Speaker 1: but subpoena the liberal justices Justice Brown, Jackson, Justice Socomior 311 00:21:19,595 --> 00:21:23,115 Speaker 1: Justice Kagan. Subpoena them to come to the Democratic run 312 00:21:23,395 --> 00:21:31,675 Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee. Why, as Boiler points out, and I 313 00:21:31,755 --> 00:21:36,315 Speaker 1: recommend subscribing to his site. Off message in January twenty 314 00:21:36,315 --> 00:21:39,515 Speaker 1: twenty two, there was one Scotis vote against giving the 315 00:21:39,595 --> 00:21:42,915 Speaker 1: January sixth Committee from the House access to the Trump 316 00:21:42,915 --> 00:21:46,715 Speaker 1: White House records in its investigation of the insurrection? Who 317 00:21:46,835 --> 00:21:50,035 Speaker 1: voted against it? Who was the one vote? Thomas? Why 318 00:21:50,835 --> 00:21:54,875 Speaker 1: doesn't say you're lucky that you know it's Thomas? Civilians 319 00:21:56,315 --> 00:22:00,275 Speaker 1: November twenty twenty two, Alito and Thomas both voted against 320 00:22:01,115 --> 00:22:04,075 Speaker 1: or voted in favor in that case of trying to 321 00:22:04,075 --> 00:22:07,195 Speaker 1: stop the Nuary sixth Committee from getting access to Kelly 322 00:22:07,315 --> 00:22:10,235 Speaker 1: Ward's phone. Kelly Ward has since been indicted in the 323 00:22:10,235 --> 00:22:14,315 Speaker 1: fake elector's plot in Arizona, and she is one of 324 00:22:14,355 --> 00:22:18,235 Speaker 1: the first class nut jobs in the entirety of the 325 00:22:18,235 --> 00:22:22,235 Speaker 1: fascist underbelly in this country. Alito and Thomas defended her. 326 00:22:22,355 --> 00:22:26,035 Speaker 1: Why what was their reasoning? What was discussed before the 327 00:22:26,115 --> 00:22:30,075 Speaker 1: ruling no idea? March twenty fourth, the quick ruling that 328 00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:34,315 Speaker 1: erased the fourteenth Amendment this year? Also this year they 329 00:22:34,355 --> 00:22:37,435 Speaker 1: wouldn't expedite a review of presidential immunity. They're still sitting 330 00:22:37,435 --> 00:22:41,035 Speaker 1: on presidential immunity. They're trying to find that fine line. 331 00:22:41,035 --> 00:22:43,955 Speaker 1: They're trying to do that razor's edge thing, thread the 332 00:22:43,995 --> 00:22:46,555 Speaker 1: needle we're going to have presidential immunity, but it's not 333 00:22:46,595 --> 00:22:50,595 Speaker 1: going to apply to Biden. You watch, and they would 334 00:22:50,595 --> 00:22:54,755 Speaker 1: hear the bid to erase charging insurrectionists with the obstruction 335 00:22:55,075 --> 00:22:59,235 Speaker 1: of official proceedings that was voted upon, and they're hearing it. 336 00:22:59,675 --> 00:23:02,795 Speaker 1: And who voted what way, and what were the logical arguments? 337 00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:06,475 Speaker 1: We don't know in all cases, who voted which way, 338 00:23:06,835 --> 00:23:09,315 Speaker 1: who said yes, we will hear this case, who said 339 00:23:09,355 --> 00:23:13,075 Speaker 1: we will not. All of the arguments they could make, 340 00:23:13,195 --> 00:23:16,395 Speaker 1: all of the possibilities which can and has been made 341 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:19,835 Speaker 1: public in previous cases, has not been made public. It 342 00:23:19,955 --> 00:23:23,115 Speaker 1: is all a secret. It is not just the Supreme Court. 343 00:23:23,315 --> 00:23:27,195 Speaker 1: It is the secret goddamned Supreme Court. And they're doing 344 00:23:27,195 --> 00:23:30,755 Speaker 1: whatever the f they want. And Buler's idea of how 345 00:23:30,755 --> 00:23:33,955 Speaker 1: to interrupt that is since Democrats do not control the 346 00:23:33,955 --> 00:23:37,115 Speaker 1: House and cannot impeach Alito and Thomas, and there is 347 00:23:37,155 --> 00:23:39,355 Speaker 1: no way to get them off the court, and John 348 00:23:39,475 --> 00:23:41,915 Speaker 1: Roberts does not have the guts to turn in his 349 00:23:42,155 --> 00:23:47,715 Speaker 1: resignation and not only completely destroy the court without in 350 00:23:47,755 --> 00:23:51,035 Speaker 1: fact shifting it to a liberal court, but turn the 351 00:23:51,075 --> 00:23:53,635 Speaker 1: court over to somebody who is in there to reform 352 00:23:53,675 --> 00:23:58,355 Speaker 1: it and force Thomas and Alito out. Boiler's idea is 353 00:23:58,515 --> 00:24:02,715 Speaker 1: call the liberals to testify to who said what in 354 00:24:02,795 --> 00:24:06,875 Speaker 1: those negotiations in those the liberations, the Alito and Thomas 355 00:24:06,915 --> 00:24:10,435 Speaker 1: with Kelly Ward, the January twenty twenty two vote over 356 00:24:10,755 --> 00:24:13,715 Speaker 1: giving the January sixth Committee the records from the Trump 357 00:24:13,715 --> 00:24:17,155 Speaker 1: White House, the quick ruling erasing the fourteenth Amendment, the 358 00:24:17,235 --> 00:24:20,875 Speaker 1: expedited or non expedited review of presidential immunity, the attempt 359 00:24:20,915 --> 00:24:26,875 Speaker 1: to fabricate presidential immunity. Who said what? Justice Sotomayor, I 360 00:24:26,915 --> 00:24:28,835 Speaker 1: know you don't want to be here, but we need 361 00:24:28,875 --> 00:24:38,035 Speaker 1: to find out the truth. At minimum, expose the conservative justices, 362 00:24:38,075 --> 00:24:42,955 Speaker 1: particularly Alito and Thomas, on the record as siding with 363 00:24:43,075 --> 00:24:50,275 Speaker 1: the insurrectionists these cases. The Democratic Judiciary Committee investigation into 364 00:24:52,355 --> 00:24:57,395 Speaker 1: insurrectionists on the Supreme Court waited a little bit. If 365 00:24:57,435 --> 00:25:01,395 Speaker 1: you're saying, what's the point, well, what was the point 366 00:25:01,395 --> 00:25:05,595 Speaker 1: of pro public at chasing down Harlan crow Irons Thomas's 367 00:25:05,995 --> 00:25:08,595 Speaker 1: giant bus, his RV. What was the point of that? 368 00:25:09,195 --> 00:25:12,115 Speaker 1: What's the point of the times going after? What did 369 00:25:12,155 --> 00:25:15,835 Speaker 1: sam Alito know about the flag and when did he 370 00:25:15,915 --> 00:25:21,235 Speaker 1: know it? Three years ago? How long have they been 371 00:25:21,235 --> 00:25:26,075 Speaker 1: working on that. Who knows what else will shake out. 372 00:25:26,115 --> 00:25:29,875 Speaker 1: The point I have always made is that the first 373 00:25:30,075 --> 00:25:32,955 Speaker 1: thing that has to happen before anything gets fixed is 374 00:25:32,955 --> 00:25:35,755 Speaker 1: somebody has to stand up and say this is wrong. 375 00:25:36,115 --> 00:25:41,995 Speaker 1: And if you drag in Kagan and Sotomayor and Justice 376 00:25:42,155 --> 00:25:45,755 Speaker 1: Brown Jackson, and you say you're under oath, we need 377 00:25:45,795 --> 00:25:48,835 Speaker 1: to know what Clarence Thomas said about this, what Samuel 378 00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:52,555 Speaker 1: Alito said about this. If it goes no further than that, 379 00:25:53,315 --> 00:25:57,475 Speaker 1: there is a record, because who knows what else will 380 00:25:57,515 --> 00:26:02,595 Speaker 1: shake out? Because that bud Lights story insider trading. The 381 00:26:02,915 --> 00:26:05,915 Speaker 1: deal goes down in April, and the in trading the 382 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:08,555 Speaker 1: guy sells in August. That's not insider trading. That's not 383 00:26:08,595 --> 00:26:12,675 Speaker 1: even smart trading. The bud Light story is mah, but 384 00:26:12,795 --> 00:26:17,795 Speaker 1: the idea behind the bud Light story is not mah. 385 00:26:18,075 --> 00:26:21,315 Speaker 1: While Alito was hearing a case last year to hamstring 386 00:26:21,355 --> 00:26:27,715 Speaker 1: the EPA, his wife was giving an energy company mineral rights. 387 00:26:27,995 --> 00:26:31,915 Speaker 1: If the EPA were hamstrung to what was in her 388 00:26:31,955 --> 00:26:34,715 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty acres that she inherited from Daddy 389 00:26:34,995 --> 00:26:40,835 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma? Was that a cash deal? Did she and 390 00:26:41,675 --> 00:26:44,315 Speaker 1: Hubby talk about that or did they not talk about 391 00:26:44,315 --> 00:26:48,635 Speaker 1: anything like flags or one hundred and sixty acre mineral rights. 392 00:26:49,035 --> 00:26:52,795 Speaker 1: Suddenly I'm turning into Tom Broke, I'm mineral rights in Oklahoma? 393 00:26:52,955 --> 00:26:55,755 Speaker 1: Was that a cash? What was that? What do Kegan, 394 00:26:55,875 --> 00:27:00,475 Speaker 1: Sodamayora and Jackson know about this? What can they tell 395 00:27:00,555 --> 00:27:05,275 Speaker 1: us under oath? Bust up the Supreme I mean, what 396 00:27:05,355 --> 00:27:08,035 Speaker 1: kind of standards are we holding up in the Supreme Court? 397 00:27:08,115 --> 00:27:10,715 Speaker 1: It's utterly corrupt And there are three people who are 398 00:27:10,995 --> 00:27:14,915 Speaker 1: nominally not corrupt, and they don't say anything. And nobody 399 00:27:14,915 --> 00:27:17,315 Speaker 1: takes the chance of saying, let's poke around and see 400 00:27:17,315 --> 00:27:19,555 Speaker 1: what's going to happen here, because what are we going 401 00:27:19,595 --> 00:27:21,995 Speaker 1: to do? The Supreme Court is suddenly going to start 402 00:27:22,075 --> 00:27:25,715 Speaker 1: ruling against liberals and against the Constitution. They're doing that now. 403 00:27:26,595 --> 00:27:29,755 Speaker 1: We are already being beaten up by the bullies. Take 404 00:27:29,795 --> 00:27:33,195 Speaker 1: the rock and hit the bully in the head. Every 405 00:27:33,635 --> 00:27:37,035 Speaker 1: single smidge of corruption that can be brought to light 406 00:27:37,355 --> 00:27:40,955 Speaker 1: not only increases the chances that we stop the corruption, 407 00:27:41,075 --> 00:27:47,035 Speaker 1: but also it plays into the election. Who knows how 408 00:27:47,075 --> 00:27:51,675 Speaker 1: many voters don't understand that the Supreme Court is corrupt 409 00:27:51,795 --> 00:27:55,395 Speaker 1: now and will only get more corrupt as in a 410 00:27:55,555 --> 00:28:02,755 Speaker 1: Trump presidency. Alito certainly Thomas retire, and Trump said over 411 00:28:02,795 --> 00:28:06,595 Speaker 1: the weekend he wants to appoint new judges throughout the 412 00:28:06,675 --> 00:28:10,035 Speaker 1: judicial system, including the Supreme Court, who will still be 413 00:28:10,115 --> 00:28:14,115 Speaker 1: on the bench in the year twenty seventy. That's what 414 00:28:14,155 --> 00:28:17,995 Speaker 1: he wants. That's what they want. They want this country 415 00:28:18,035 --> 00:28:22,715 Speaker 1: to be ruled like Iran. The election is not just 416 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:26,275 Speaker 1: our hope of avoiding this now, it may very well 417 00:28:26,315 --> 00:28:37,075 Speaker 1: be our last hope. Also of interest here in speaking 418 00:28:37,075 --> 00:28:40,275 Speaker 1: of Iran, Robert F. Kennedy Junior's voting address the one 419 00:28:40,315 --> 00:28:43,795 Speaker 1: on all those forms for all that ballot access, so 420 00:28:43,835 --> 00:28:47,435 Speaker 1: he can be a spoiler for Trump. A he doesn't 421 00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:51,675 Speaker 1: live there, the place on the address, and he doesn't 422 00:28:51,715 --> 00:28:54,435 Speaker 1: live there. Nobody's seen him there. He's been voting from 423 00:28:54,435 --> 00:28:57,315 Speaker 1: there since two thousand and eight. Also, right after the 424 00:28:57,355 --> 00:29:01,595 Speaker 1: president of Iran was killed in that helicopter accident, who 425 00:29:01,675 --> 00:29:06,355 Speaker 1: does rfk Junior bring up the president of Iran? And 426 00:29:06,395 --> 00:29:08,635 Speaker 1: he said, the President of the United States, whoever that 427 00:29:08,675 --> 00:29:10,915 Speaker 1: would be, And he really thinks it's going to be him. 428 00:29:11,315 --> 00:29:13,395 Speaker 1: He said, the President of the United States needs to 429 00:29:13,435 --> 00:29:16,635 Speaker 1: negotiate with the president of Iran. Only the guy he 430 00:29:16,715 --> 00:29:19,635 Speaker 1: thinks is the president of Iran is not the new 431 00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:22,435 Speaker 1: one that they haven't voted in yet, and isn't the 432 00:29:22,755 --> 00:29:27,595 Speaker 1: dead one. He's three presidents of Iran ago. That's who 433 00:29:27,675 --> 00:29:31,675 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy wants to negotiate with. That's how crazy 434 00:29:31,755 --> 00:29:38,595 Speaker 1: he is. Worst person's next. This is countdown. This is countdown, 435 00:29:38,955 --> 00:30:04,475 Speaker 1: with Keith Olberman still ahead of us on this initiative countdown. 436 00:30:04,475 --> 00:30:07,995 Speaker 1: I'm he missed Willie Mays's birthday, meaning I missed the 437 00:30:08,035 --> 00:30:10,315 Speaker 1: opportunity to tell you of the day I, as a 438 00:30:10,395 --> 00:30:13,915 Speaker 1: twenty year old broadcasting rookie, had to call him and 439 00:30:14,075 --> 00:30:18,115 Speaker 1: interview him about the day he got banned from baseball. 440 00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:21,675 Speaker 1: And before I could ask him one question, Willie Mays 441 00:30:22,315 --> 00:30:27,115 Speaker 1: did a fake voice. And it was some fake voice. 442 00:30:27,595 --> 00:30:30,355 Speaker 1: I can't even use it in telling you the story 443 00:30:30,635 --> 00:30:32,755 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell coming up at first 444 00:30:32,875 --> 00:30:35,755 Speaker 1: is ever, there are still more new idiots to talk about. 445 00:30:35,915 --> 00:30:38,355 Speaker 1: The daily roundup of the miss Grants, morons and Dunning 446 00:30:38,395 --> 00:30:42,395 Speaker 1: Krueger effects specimens who constitute today's worse persons in the world. 447 00:30:42,795 --> 00:30:50,035 Speaker 1: The Bronze Worser Politico, the increasingly right leaning insider publication 448 00:30:50,195 --> 00:30:54,195 Speaker 1: in the increasingly right leaning media, landscape where they're all 449 00:30:54,235 --> 00:30:57,475 Speaker 1: sitting around going how do we protect our phony, boloney 450 00:30:57,595 --> 00:31:00,075 Speaker 1: jobs and our money in the case of the Trump 451 00:31:00,115 --> 00:31:02,995 Speaker 1: winning and the country going fascist. I'll just read this 452 00:31:03,155 --> 00:31:11,235 Speaker 1: quote from political writer calder McHugh. Honestly, calder McHugh, you're 453 00:31:11,235 --> 00:31:15,555 Speaker 1: sure his name isn't Hugh mcaulder. Calder mcew who has 454 00:31:15,595 --> 00:31:18,315 Speaker 1: an idea of how to stay in power even if 455 00:31:18,315 --> 00:31:22,395 Speaker 1: the fascists take over Washington again. It's impossible to know. 456 00:31:22,595 --> 00:31:25,875 Speaker 1: He writes exactly how Trump will behave if he returns 457 00:31:25,915 --> 00:31:29,155 Speaker 1: to office. Well, first of all, let me just interject 458 00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:34,395 Speaker 1: here bullshit. By all accounts, Trump has professionalized his twenty 459 00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:40,835 Speaker 1: twenty four campaign, writes Hugh mcaulder, suggesting he learns something 460 00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:43,955 Speaker 1: from his slap dash first campaign and his twenty twenty 461 00:31:43,995 --> 00:31:47,115 Speaker 1: re election loss. Yes, he learned not to have any 462 00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:52,435 Speaker 1: more elections. But you haven't learned that, have you, cal macuter. 463 00:31:53,355 --> 00:31:58,035 Speaker 1: The question is whether his views on presidential prerogatives have changed, 464 00:31:58,275 --> 00:32:02,515 Speaker 1: or whether he intends to be guided by loftier principles 465 00:32:03,835 --> 00:32:08,515 Speaker 1: this guy writes, and it's not meant ironically loftier principles. 466 00:32:09,195 --> 00:32:12,595 Speaker 1: Trump's idea of loftier principles are ideas that get him 467 00:32:12,675 --> 00:32:18,075 Speaker 1: more money. Second half this is from the Politico Email newsletter, 468 00:32:18,355 --> 00:32:23,235 Speaker 1: and it speaks to how corrupt corrupt is nowadays. Nobody 469 00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:27,755 Speaker 1: even bothers to cover it up. Corruption at every level 470 00:32:27,795 --> 00:32:32,995 Speaker 1: of American society is so deep that nobody said no, don't, don't, 471 00:32:33,075 --> 00:32:37,395 Speaker 1: don't do that. They do this every week on the 472 00:32:37,395 --> 00:32:41,435 Speaker 1: Politico Email newsletter. I guess it's the Saturday edition in 473 00:32:41,475 --> 00:32:46,035 Speaker 1: which they have Great Weekend Reads curated by Ryan Liza. 474 00:32:46,315 --> 00:32:48,155 Speaker 1: Ryan Liza, who used to be with The New Yorker, 475 00:32:48,195 --> 00:32:51,195 Speaker 1: got fired for something we never found out what, involving 476 00:32:51,275 --> 00:32:54,795 Speaker 1: their behavior patterns and their rules. Nobody ever explained what 477 00:32:54,875 --> 00:32:56,555 Speaker 1: it was. I think I know what it was, but 478 00:32:56,635 --> 00:32:58,715 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to tell you yet. But it was 479 00:32:58,755 --> 00:33:04,395 Speaker 1: not It was not nice. Ryan Lizza Great Weekend Reads, 480 00:33:04,515 --> 00:33:06,955 Speaker 1: and he lists eight or nine long articles that are 481 00:33:07,035 --> 00:33:10,995 Speaker 1: usually appealing only to people who have lots of spare 482 00:33:11,075 --> 00:33:15,395 Speaker 1: time and a very very low threshold or very high 483 00:33:15,395 --> 00:33:19,675 Speaker 1: threshold for being bored. The first one Great Weekend Reads 484 00:33:19,915 --> 00:33:24,235 Speaker 1: curated by Ryan Liza Semi Colan on the campaign trail 485 00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:28,795 Speaker 1: by New York Magazines Olivia, Newsy Donald Trump is running 486 00:33:28,795 --> 00:33:30,915 Speaker 1: for president while bumping into the past at a Manhattan 487 00:33:30,915 --> 00:33:38,515 Speaker 1: criminal courthouse. They are their boyfriend and girlfriend, Ryan Lizza 488 00:33:39,475 --> 00:33:43,555 Speaker 1: pimping Olivia Newsy's article about Donald Trump and the campaign 489 00:33:43,595 --> 00:33:47,875 Speaker 1: trail and the trial. Boyfriend and girlfriend, and make no 490 00:33:48,195 --> 00:33:52,195 Speaker 1: secret of this. Unlike her past relationships, there's no secret 491 00:33:52,235 --> 00:33:55,435 Speaker 1: involved in this, the first one, and they're seven or 492 00:33:55,435 --> 00:33:59,435 Speaker 1: eight other You couldn't have the presence of mind to say, 493 00:33:59,755 --> 00:34:02,835 Speaker 1: why don't I put the one about you third? And 494 00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:06,195 Speaker 1: you would you hand me that coffee? I put you 495 00:34:06,315 --> 00:34:09,115 Speaker 1: third so it doesn't look like I'm the term technically 496 00:34:09,195 --> 00:34:14,155 Speaker 1: is a log rolling, and I'm pushing your article because 497 00:34:14,355 --> 00:34:21,195 Speaker 1: you're my girlfriend. Jesus, just pretend, pretend that there's some 498 00:34:21,235 --> 00:34:26,635 Speaker 1: ethics involved. Runner up worser. This isn't really worse, but 499 00:34:26,715 --> 00:34:28,315 Speaker 1: I needed a place to stick it, and I've been 500 00:34:28,315 --> 00:34:30,555 Speaker 1: saving it because of this sickness for a little while. 501 00:34:30,595 --> 00:34:35,555 Speaker 1: Here the Republican primary for the Senate in Maryland. Larry Hogan, 502 00:34:35,635 --> 00:34:38,995 Speaker 1: the former governor or, the outgoing governor, sixty three percent 503 00:34:39,075 --> 00:34:41,875 Speaker 1: of the vote. Robin Ficker was the runner up with 504 00:34:41,915 --> 00:34:44,515 Speaker 1: thirty percent of the vote. Robin Ficker. I looked at 505 00:34:44,515 --> 00:34:47,715 Speaker 1: this and I went Robin Ficker. Robin Ficker. Does the 506 00:34:47,795 --> 00:34:51,995 Speaker 1: name sound familiar? This is my world's colliding. Until nineteen 507 00:34:52,075 --> 00:34:56,515 Speaker 1: ninety eight, Robin Ficker was the heckler in professional sports. 508 00:34:56,795 --> 00:34:59,395 Speaker 1: He went to every one of the Washington Bullets and 509 00:34:59,435 --> 00:35:03,435 Speaker 1: then Washington Wizard's game. He sometimes had a portable megaphone 510 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,155 Speaker 1: with him. He sat in the front row, so right 511 00:35:05,195 --> 00:35:10,995 Speaker 1: behind the visiting bench. He used insults, personal insults, derogatory terms, 512 00:35:11,115 --> 00:35:14,075 Speaker 1: sat right behind the bench. Several coaches had to be 513 00:35:14,115 --> 00:35:18,515 Speaker 1: restrained from going after him physically. And he was such 514 00:35:18,515 --> 00:35:22,075 Speaker 1: a fan that when they changed arenas and reassigned everybody 515 00:35:22,075 --> 00:35:24,115 Speaker 1: to new seats, they would not sell him those same 516 00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:26,755 Speaker 1: front row seats, and so he stopped being a fan 517 00:35:26,835 --> 00:35:30,795 Speaker 1: of the team. So a real dedicated fan who was 518 00:35:30,835 --> 00:35:32,955 Speaker 1: not there just to make fun of the other players. 519 00:35:33,515 --> 00:35:36,235 Speaker 1: I believe it was Charles Barkley, who wants in the 520 00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:39,675 Speaker 1: middle of one of these Ficker monologues, threw a wet, 521 00:35:39,715 --> 00:35:44,555 Speaker 1: sweaty towel and got it to wrap perfectly in a 522 00:35:44,635 --> 00:35:49,235 Speaker 1: tight camera shot around Robin Ficker's face. He's eighty something. 523 00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:51,755 Speaker 1: He runs for office every couple of years, and he 524 00:35:51,835 --> 00:35:54,275 Speaker 1: was the runner up in the Republican primary for Senate. 525 00:35:54,475 --> 00:35:57,835 Speaker 1: So when they talk about what an invincible candidate the 526 00:35:57,915 --> 00:36:01,715 Speaker 1: Republicans have trotted out for the Senate from Maryland, just 527 00:36:01,755 --> 00:36:06,675 Speaker 1: remember the guy he beat is the retired ex heckler 528 00:36:06,915 --> 00:36:12,715 Speaker 1: from the NBA. But our winner the worst RFK Junior. 529 00:36:12,795 --> 00:36:15,075 Speaker 1: Not a good week for being RFK Junior. Not a 530 00:36:15,075 --> 00:36:17,435 Speaker 1: good month, not a good year, not a good decade, 531 00:36:17,515 --> 00:36:21,355 Speaker 1: not a good lifetime. Ultimately, The New York Post reports 532 00:36:22,155 --> 00:36:25,395 Speaker 1: that Kennedy quote lists his residents to vote as a Tony, 533 00:36:25,715 --> 00:36:30,195 Speaker 1: Westchester County address which is in foreclosure. Proceedings for non 534 00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:33,995 Speaker 1: payment court record show the independent candidate claims his voting 535 00:36:33,995 --> 00:36:37,435 Speaker 1: address is eighty four Croton Lake Road in Katona, though 536 00:36:37,475 --> 00:36:40,075 Speaker 1: he is not the owner of the million dollar in 537 00:36:40,355 --> 00:36:44,395 Speaker 1: arrears property does not show up in residential searches for it, 538 00:36:44,675 --> 00:36:48,035 Speaker 1: and some longtime neighbors and even local authorities were shocked 539 00:36:48,355 --> 00:36:52,275 Speaker 1: at the notion it's his home. But RFK Junior also 540 00:36:52,315 --> 00:36:55,075 Speaker 1: has the same address list that has his domicile or 541 00:36:55,155 --> 00:36:59,795 Speaker 1: residents on his presidential nomination petitions filed in New Hampshire 542 00:36:59,835 --> 00:37:02,435 Speaker 1: in recent months, according to the records which are obtained 543 00:37:02,435 --> 00:37:05,395 Speaker 1: by the Post, and he's been voting being from this 544 00:37:05,555 --> 00:37:08,235 Speaker 1: address since at least two thousand and eight, according to 545 00:37:08,275 --> 00:37:12,395 Speaker 1: the New York Post, So everything about Robert F. Kennedy, 546 00:37:12,435 --> 00:37:16,795 Speaker 1: including his eligibility for being on the ballot in places 547 00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:19,875 Speaker 1: like New Hampshire, could be challenged if anybody would get 548 00:37:19,915 --> 00:37:23,075 Speaker 1: around doing that. He's been lying about his address all 549 00:37:23,115 --> 00:37:28,675 Speaker 1: this time, or he doesn't know where he lives, and 550 00:37:28,715 --> 00:37:31,635 Speaker 1: we have more evidence supporting the later theory of those two. 551 00:37:32,315 --> 00:37:35,315 Speaker 1: The day after the President of Iran was killed in 552 00:37:35,355 --> 00:37:38,915 Speaker 1: a chopper accident, RFK Junior demanded that the President of 553 00:37:38,955 --> 00:37:44,755 Speaker 1: the United States, presumably himself pres himself, negotiate with the 554 00:37:44,795 --> 00:37:50,675 Speaker 1: President of Iran. Only you know, right now there ain't 555 00:37:50,755 --> 00:37:54,955 Speaker 1: a president of Iran and it's getting worse from this point. 556 00:37:55,355 --> 00:37:58,435 Speaker 1: Just listen to this hitting down with other world leaders, 557 00:37:58,475 --> 00:38:01,435 Speaker 1: with people like President g and President Plutin and President 558 00:38:01,635 --> 00:38:05,835 Speaker 1: Vaman dinnershad for the prime minister all the people President 559 00:38:05,875 --> 00:38:09,675 Speaker 1: Akmadina Jodd, Mack Mood, Achmedina Jod or do you mean 560 00:38:09,675 --> 00:38:13,555 Speaker 1: somebody else like Barney Achmadena Jod Because mack Mood Akmadina 561 00:38:13,595 --> 00:38:16,755 Speaker 1: Jodd has not been president of Iran since August of 562 00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:21,315 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, his term expired. He's tried to run twice since, 563 00:38:21,515 --> 00:38:24,275 Speaker 1: and he's two nuts even for the government of Iran. 564 00:38:26,475 --> 00:38:29,795 Speaker 1: R f K Junior thinks he's president. It's been almost 565 00:38:29,835 --> 00:38:33,995 Speaker 1: eleven years. R f K Junior, you will never convince 566 00:38:34,035 --> 00:38:40,475 Speaker 1: me that the worm is dead. Two days. Worst person 567 00:38:41,915 --> 00:38:54,635 Speaker 1: in the world. Now to the number one story on 568 00:38:54,675 --> 00:38:56,635 Speaker 1: the countdown, and I have to confess this has been 569 00:38:56,635 --> 00:38:59,875 Speaker 1: a strong effort. I hope you appreciate this. I'm playing 570 00:38:59,995 --> 00:39:04,475 Speaker 1: Hurt full edition and my favorite topic me which I've 571 00:39:04,875 --> 00:39:09,915 Speaker 1: he discussed and complimented myself. Now things I promise not 572 00:39:09,995 --> 00:39:12,155 Speaker 1: to tell, and I am late to the party. It 573 00:39:12,235 --> 00:39:16,155 Speaker 1: was two weeks ago yesterday, but Willie Howard Mays turned 574 00:39:16,235 --> 00:39:18,275 Speaker 1: ninety three years old earlier this month. And he is 575 00:39:18,315 --> 00:39:22,235 Speaker 1: the greatest defensive athlete I have ever seen in any sport. 576 00:39:22,795 --> 00:39:25,355 Speaker 1: Saw him in person when I was a kid, and 577 00:39:25,475 --> 00:39:28,515 Speaker 1: also one of the top five offensive athletes in any sport. 578 00:39:28,555 --> 00:39:32,435 Speaker 1: And this is now the seventy fourth baseball season since 579 00:39:32,475 --> 00:39:36,075 Speaker 1: his debut and the fifty first season since his retirement, 580 00:39:36,355 --> 00:39:40,435 Speaker 1: and everybody ever in baseball in all that time has 581 00:39:40,475 --> 00:39:43,835 Speaker 1: met him, and he is still rightly celebrated wherever he goes. 582 00:39:43,955 --> 00:39:46,875 Speaker 1: Whenever his name is brought up in me amidst all 583 00:39:46,995 --> 00:39:50,435 Speaker 1: this celebration and literally half a century or more of 584 00:39:50,515 --> 00:39:53,595 Speaker 1: glorification of Willie Mays. When his name comes up, I 585 00:39:53,635 --> 00:39:58,075 Speaker 1: think of only one thing. The first time I interviewed 586 00:39:58,115 --> 00:40:01,035 Speaker 1: him in the off season of nineteen seventy nine eighty. 587 00:40:01,075 --> 00:40:03,635 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say it was a strange interview, 588 00:40:03,955 --> 00:40:06,715 Speaker 1: but I am affecting that I will be getting over 589 00:40:06,755 --> 00:40:12,075 Speaker 1: it any day now. Maybe it was at my first 590 00:40:12,155 --> 00:40:15,395 Speaker 1: job for my radio network when God helped me. Willie 591 00:40:15,475 --> 00:40:22,355 Speaker 1: Mays was seventeen years younger than I am now, Like 592 00:40:22,395 --> 00:40:26,035 Speaker 1: I wasn't scared enough to talk to Willie Mays. He 593 00:40:26,235 --> 00:40:31,195 Speaker 1: started that interview by doing a bit, a comedy bit 594 00:40:31,715 --> 00:40:36,075 Speaker 1: that if I had done it, then they would have 595 00:40:36,195 --> 00:40:41,475 Speaker 1: fired me. The other thing I think of is an 596 00:40:41,515 --> 00:40:45,115 Speaker 1: amazing injustice that befell Willie Mays that nobody talks about 597 00:40:45,315 --> 00:40:49,555 Speaker 1: and nobody registers anymore. Okay, the first part. So it's 598 00:40:49,555 --> 00:40:53,995 Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon, October twenty seventh, nineteen seventy nine, just 599 00:40:54,355 --> 00:40:57,275 Speaker 1: forty three and a half years ago, and Willie Mays 600 00:40:57,315 --> 00:41:00,835 Speaker 1: has just been banned from baseball because word has gotten 601 00:41:00,835 --> 00:41:03,515 Speaker 1: out that he has signed a contract to do promotional 602 00:41:03,555 --> 00:41:06,395 Speaker 1: events for a casine know in Atlantic City, and there 603 00:41:06,475 --> 00:41:09,195 Speaker 1: is a news conference coming up in two days on Monday. 604 00:41:09,995 --> 00:41:14,995 Speaker 1: Now try explaining this whole concept to any current sports fan. 605 00:41:15,675 --> 00:41:18,555 Speaker 1: Any current sports fan now used to seeing retired players 606 00:41:18,555 --> 00:41:21,275 Speaker 1: on TV telling them how to bet and who to 607 00:41:21,315 --> 00:41:25,675 Speaker 1: bet on, or the sportscasters doing the games giving you 608 00:41:25,715 --> 00:41:28,035 Speaker 1: the latest odds and how they have changed since the 609 00:41:28,115 --> 00:41:33,235 Speaker 1: last period or inning started. Plus this was like three 610 00:41:33,275 --> 00:41:36,115 Speaker 1: months after Willie Mays was inducted into the Baseball Hall 611 00:41:36,155 --> 00:41:39,995 Speaker 1: of Fame, three months after the celebration of this brilliant career, 612 00:41:41,035 --> 00:41:44,355 Speaker 1: and now they've banned him for life for something that 613 00:41:44,435 --> 00:41:48,235 Speaker 1: today the commissioner would have sent him a note of congratulations, 614 00:41:48,355 --> 00:41:52,555 Speaker 1: to say nothing of a large paycheck. And nobody has 615 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:55,275 Speaker 1: done an interview with Willy Mays yet because he has 616 00:41:55,315 --> 00:41:58,595 Speaker 1: been traveling. And my phone rings in my little cubby 617 00:41:58,635 --> 00:42:01,755 Speaker 1: hole at the United pres International Radio Network that I've 618 00:42:01,795 --> 00:42:06,875 Speaker 1: only been working at since August three months, that's how 619 00:42:06,915 --> 00:42:09,875 Speaker 1: long my full time broadcasting career has been to this point. 620 00:42:10,035 --> 00:42:12,675 Speaker 1: And on the phone is maybe the top baseball reporter 621 00:42:13,435 --> 00:42:17,115 Speaker 1: of the second half of the twentieth century, Keith. It's 622 00:42:17,155 --> 00:42:21,155 Speaker 1: Milt Richmond. This man once reported in July nineteen fifty 623 00:42:21,155 --> 00:42:24,155 Speaker 1: five that if the Milwaukee Braves did not start winning, 624 00:42:24,275 --> 00:42:28,315 Speaker 1: that they would fire their manager. Exactly one year later, 625 00:42:28,835 --> 00:42:32,075 Speaker 1: and they didn't start winning, and exactly one year later 626 00:42:32,115 --> 00:42:36,435 Speaker 1: to the day, they fired their manager. Keith, write this 627 00:42:36,555 --> 00:42:40,195 Speaker 1: phone number down. It's Willie May's. Milt never got excited 628 00:42:40,195 --> 00:42:43,235 Speaker 1: about anything. He talked like this all the time. William 629 00:42:43,235 --> 00:42:46,155 Speaker 1: Mays is expecting your call for an interview about this 630 00:42:46,355 --> 00:42:50,315 Speaker 1: banishment story. And I squeaked yes, sir, and I went 631 00:42:50,395 --> 00:42:53,675 Speaker 1: into one of our recording studios and I dialed Willie 632 00:42:53,755 --> 00:42:58,875 Speaker 1: Mays's phone number. And I will not recreate the voice 633 00:42:59,155 --> 00:43:04,635 Speaker 1: that I heard answer Willie May's phone, because while doing 634 00:43:04,875 --> 00:43:07,195 Speaker 1: this voice was once considered to be a staple of 635 00:43:07,235 --> 00:43:11,235 Speaker 1: American humor, even American humor written or performed by liberals. 636 00:43:11,355 --> 00:43:15,555 Speaker 1: I mean, James Thurber's short stories are full of this voice. 637 00:43:15,875 --> 00:43:19,835 Speaker 1: The voice is wildly racist. It is racist enough that 638 00:43:19,875 --> 00:43:23,835 Speaker 1: if today you heard an African American man do it, 639 00:43:24,355 --> 00:43:26,875 Speaker 1: even Willie Mays, you probably say. 640 00:43:27,795 --> 00:43:32,635 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, still racist. Don't do it, Willie. 641 00:43:34,115 --> 00:43:38,115 Speaker 5: It was a voice similar to the actress Hattie McDaniel, 642 00:43:38,395 --> 00:43:40,755 Speaker 5: who won the Academy Award in nineteen thirty nine for 643 00:43:40,835 --> 00:43:44,755 Speaker 5: Gone with the Wind. She was a world class blues singer, 644 00:43:44,795 --> 00:43:47,635 Speaker 5: a top patriotic fundraiser during World War Two, and she 645 00:43:47,755 --> 00:43:52,875 Speaker 5: played maids housekeepers in maybe two hundred films. She also 646 00:43:52,915 --> 00:43:55,035 Speaker 5: played one on a famous radio show, and was paid 647 00:43:55,155 --> 00:43:59,235 Speaker 5: so little that while she was performing her role of 648 00:43:59,275 --> 00:44:02,435 Speaker 5: the pretend maid, she had to keep working as a 649 00:44:02,475 --> 00:44:07,395 Speaker 5: real maid. Okay, so I'm twenty years old and I 650 00:44:07,435 --> 00:44:10,235 Speaker 5: have to interview Willie Mays about him getting banned from baseball, 651 00:44:10,275 --> 00:44:12,715 Speaker 5: which is crazy enough. And I call and the phone 652 00:44:12,755 --> 00:44:15,915 Speaker 5: is answered, and a gravelly but feminine voice that sounded 653 00:44:15,955 --> 00:44:22,715 Speaker 5: exactly like Hattie McDaniel says hello, mister Mays's residence. And 654 00:44:22,755 --> 00:44:26,675 Speaker 5: I'm a little thrown but I power through it somehow, 655 00:44:26,675 --> 00:44:29,515 Speaker 5: and I explain who I am, and she says ahah, 656 00:44:29,595 --> 00:44:32,155 Speaker 5: And I say where I'm calling from and she says uhah, 657 00:44:32,195 --> 00:44:35,035 Speaker 5: And I say, Milt Richmond said, mister Mays was expecting 658 00:44:35,035 --> 00:44:38,035 Speaker 5: my call. And she interrupts and goes, this is Willie. 659 00:44:39,955 --> 00:44:43,195 Speaker 5: The Hattie McDaniel impersonation was being done by Willie Mays. 660 00:44:45,355 --> 00:44:49,035 Speaker 5: Now I do not have this on tape. Silly me. 661 00:44:50,155 --> 00:44:54,315 Speaker 1: When my bosses said you may not start recording before 662 00:44:54,355 --> 00:44:58,675 Speaker 1: you get express permission from the interviewee to start recording. 663 00:44:59,755 --> 00:45:05,675 Speaker 1: I believed them, and I lived by that rule. Anybody 664 00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:08,435 Speaker 1: else would have a tape of this phone being answered 665 00:45:08,435 --> 00:45:11,675 Speaker 1: and the Hattie McDaniel impression done by Willie Mays, because 666 00:45:11,715 --> 00:45:13,795 Speaker 1: the first thing you do is record, so you don't 667 00:45:13,835 --> 00:45:16,915 Speaker 1: have to remember to record, because otherwise you'll forget to record. 668 00:45:17,995 --> 00:45:20,515 Speaker 1: But I'm afraid you are going to have to take 669 00:45:20,595 --> 00:45:25,395 Speaker 1: my word for this, because why would I make this up. 670 00:45:26,355 --> 00:45:30,675 Speaker 1: October twenty seventh, nineteen seventy nine, and I still haven't 671 00:45:30,715 --> 00:45:36,715 Speaker 1: recovered mister Mays's residence. Happy ninety second birthday, Willy Mays. 672 00:45:37,595 --> 00:45:41,435 Speaker 1: Now the injustice that Willy Mays suffered that nobody talks about. 673 00:45:41,475 --> 00:45:44,395 Speaker 1: In fact, I've never heard him talk about it. This 674 00:45:44,515 --> 00:45:47,915 Speaker 1: is something else that no fan believes today. The United 675 00:45:47,915 --> 00:45:51,835 Speaker 1: States military used to draft Major League Baseball players and 676 00:45:51,995 --> 00:45:55,595 Speaker 1: NFL players and NBA players and send them into the 677 00:45:55,675 --> 00:45:59,075 Speaker 1: service in the middle of their seasons, in the primes 678 00:45:59,115 --> 00:46:02,715 Speaker 1: of their careers, even if there was no war in progress. 679 00:46:03,595 --> 00:46:06,395 Speaker 1: They only did it a couple of times after saying 680 00:46:06,475 --> 00:46:09,795 Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, and usually that was thinly veiled racist 681 00:46:09,795 --> 00:46:12,995 Speaker 1: political pressure, such as when they drafted Muhammad Ali in 682 00:46:13,075 --> 00:46:15,275 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six when he was heavyweight champion of the 683 00:46:15,315 --> 00:46:19,595 Speaker 1: world and an activist Muslim, and he was twenty four 684 00:46:19,675 --> 00:46:23,715 Speaker 1: years old when everybody else getting drafted was eighteen. Remember that. 685 00:46:25,675 --> 00:46:29,595 Speaker 1: But in nineteen fifty two they also drafted Willie Mays. 686 00:46:30,075 --> 00:46:32,035 Speaker 1: He had come up from the Miners the year before 687 00:46:32,075 --> 00:46:34,355 Speaker 1: and had led the New York Giants from thirteen games 688 00:46:34,395 --> 00:46:36,315 Speaker 1: back to the National League pennant, and he was the 689 00:46:36,395 --> 00:46:39,075 Speaker 1: kind of all around whirlwind of a player nobody had 690 00:46:39,115 --> 00:46:42,155 Speaker 1: ever seen before in Major League Baseball. And on May 691 00:46:42,235 --> 00:46:45,995 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, thirty four games into his second season, boom, 692 00:46:46,715 --> 00:46:50,595 Speaker 1: he was drafted and inducted, and he missed the rest 693 00:46:50,715 --> 00:46:54,475 Speaker 1: of that season and all of the nineteen fifty three season. 694 00:46:55,315 --> 00:46:59,395 Speaker 1: I can't think of a parallel today. Maybe maybe they 695 00:47:00,115 --> 00:47:03,875 Speaker 1: draft in the middle of his second season somebody like 696 00:47:03,955 --> 00:47:07,355 Speaker 1: Fernando TEIs and in the middle of May, he's gone 697 00:47:07,755 --> 00:47:09,595 Speaker 1: for the rest of this year and next year because 698 00:47:09,595 --> 00:47:14,595 Speaker 1: he has to go serve in the military. Now. They 699 00:47:14,635 --> 00:47:18,395 Speaker 1: didn't draft Mickey Mantle, who also broke in in New 700 00:47:18,475 --> 00:47:20,675 Speaker 1: York in nineteen fifty one, the way Mays did, and 701 00:47:20,715 --> 00:47:24,315 Speaker 1: to be fair, Mickey Mantle had about four hundred medical 702 00:47:24,355 --> 00:47:27,115 Speaker 1: problems that would have kept anybody out of the military, 703 00:47:27,155 --> 00:47:29,595 Speaker 1: and it was all legit. But they also didn't draft 704 00:47:29,915 --> 00:47:32,875 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty one American League Rookie of the Year winner, 705 00:47:32,915 --> 00:47:35,315 Speaker 1: Gil McDougald of the Yankees, who was a white guy, 706 00:47:35,995 --> 00:47:38,715 Speaker 1: or Walt Dropo, who was the Rookie of the Year 707 00:47:38,755 --> 00:47:42,195 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty or Roy Sievers, who was the Rookie 708 00:47:42,195 --> 00:47:44,995 Speaker 1: of the Year in nineteen forty nine, or or you 709 00:47:45,075 --> 00:47:49,835 Speaker 1: get the point here. Now, trying to calculate should have 710 00:47:49,875 --> 00:47:52,315 Speaker 1: beens in sports is a risky enough business, but you 711 00:47:52,395 --> 00:47:55,115 Speaker 1: can get an approximation of what might have happened. If 712 00:47:55,115 --> 00:47:58,115 Speaker 1: a player hits twenty homers in his first year and 713 00:47:58,155 --> 00:48:01,195 Speaker 1: then misses two years, and then he comes back and 714 00:48:01,235 --> 00:48:03,555 Speaker 1: he hits forty one homers in his first year back, 715 00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:06,235 Speaker 1: you can extrap up of eight that he probably would 716 00:48:06,275 --> 00:48:09,275 Speaker 1: have hit twenty seven homers in the first missing year 717 00:48:09,635 --> 00:48:13,435 Speaker 1: and thirty four in the second missing year. Your numerical 718 00:48:13,475 --> 00:48:16,875 Speaker 1: sequence is twenty homers and twenty seven homers, then thirty 719 00:48:16,875 --> 00:48:19,675 Speaker 1: four homers, then forty one homers. You have to tinker 720 00:48:19,715 --> 00:48:22,035 Speaker 1: a little bit with it in Mays's case, because he 721 00:48:22,035 --> 00:48:24,795 Speaker 1: didn't miss all of that second season nineteen fifty two, 722 00:48:24,915 --> 00:48:27,475 Speaker 1: He just missed from June on, and he'd had a 723 00:48:27,515 --> 00:48:30,315 Speaker 1: slow start. He'd only hit four homers in the first 724 00:48:30,315 --> 00:48:33,195 Speaker 1: two months of nineteen fifty two, so instead of twenty 725 00:48:33,195 --> 00:48:35,715 Speaker 1: seven that year, maybe he only hits twenty four that year. 726 00:48:36,435 --> 00:48:39,155 Speaker 1: So a good guess as to how many homers Willie 727 00:48:39,155 --> 00:48:41,955 Speaker 1: Mays did not get to hit because he got drafted 728 00:48:41,995 --> 00:48:44,555 Speaker 1: and all the white guys did not get drafted is 729 00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:50,675 Speaker 1: all told fifty four. In real life, playing between nineteen 730 00:48:50,755 --> 00:48:54,195 Speaker 1: fifty one and nineteen seventy three, Willie Mays finished with 731 00:48:54,435 --> 00:48:57,915 Speaker 1: six hundred and sixty home runs. For most of the 732 00:48:57,995 --> 00:49:01,275 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, it was thought he was the man who 733 00:49:01,315 --> 00:49:05,235 Speaker 1: would challenge Babe Ruth's career record, not Hank Aaron, but 734 00:49:05,395 --> 00:49:09,235 Speaker 1: Willie Mays. Willie Mays hit six hundred and sixty homers, 735 00:49:09,235 --> 00:49:11,995 Speaker 1: But if you give him those fifty four more homers 736 00:49:12,035 --> 00:49:15,115 Speaker 1: he might have hit. If he hadn't been so curiously 737 00:49:15,195 --> 00:49:18,355 Speaker 1: drafted in nineteen fifty two, Willie Mays would have finished 738 00:49:18,395 --> 00:49:22,715 Speaker 1: with seven hundred and fourteen home runs. Seven hundred and fourteen, 739 00:49:23,555 --> 00:49:28,195 Speaker 1: which is exactly how many Babe Ruth hit, So if 740 00:49:28,195 --> 00:49:31,035 Speaker 1: he doesn't get drafted, maybe in nineteen seventy two and 741 00:49:31,115 --> 00:49:33,475 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three and nineteen seventy four, we are seeing 742 00:49:33,675 --> 00:49:38,435 Speaker 1: Willie Mays hit his seven hundredth career home run, challenging 743 00:49:38,475 --> 00:49:41,915 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth's record, and then tying and breaking Babe Ruth's record, 744 00:49:41,915 --> 00:49:45,115 Speaker 1: and then right behind him, Henry Aaron hits his seven 745 00:49:45,195 --> 00:49:47,635 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteenth homer and then his seven hundred and 746 00:49:47,715 --> 00:49:50,755 Speaker 1: sixteenth homer to break the all time record held by 747 00:49:52,555 --> 00:50:09,875 Speaker 1: Willie Mays mister Mays's residence. That's not how it sounded. 748 00:50:10,875 --> 00:50:12,555 Speaker 1: Done all the damage I can do here, Thank you 749 00:50:12,595 --> 00:50:15,315 Speaker 1: for listening. Countdown Musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillip 750 00:50:15,355 --> 00:50:18,515 Speaker 1: Schanel arranged, produced, and performed most of our music. Mister 751 00:50:18,595 --> 00:50:21,355 Speaker 1: Ray was on guitars, bass and drums, Mister Chanelle handled 752 00:50:21,435 --> 00:50:24,915 Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards, and it was produced by Tko Brothers. 753 00:50:25,235 --> 00:50:28,155 Speaker 1: Other music, including some of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and 754 00:50:28,195 --> 00:50:31,395 Speaker 1: performed by the group No Horns Allowed. The sports music 755 00:50:31,475 --> 00:50:34,755 Speaker 1: is the Alderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch 756 00:50:34,795 --> 00:50:38,795 Speaker 1: Warren Davis Curtisy of ESPN inc. Our satirical and pithy 757 00:50:38,875 --> 00:50:41,755 Speaker 1: musical comments are by Nancy Fauss, the best baseball stadium 758 00:50:41,835 --> 00:50:45,315 Speaker 1: organist ever. Our announcer was my friend Larry David. Everything 759 00:50:45,355 --> 00:50:48,315 Speaker 1: else was pretty much my fault. But once again I 760 00:50:48,395 --> 00:50:52,355 Speaker 1: did a good job today. Considering that's countdown for this 761 00:50:52,395 --> 00:50:54,715 Speaker 1: the one hundred and sixty ninth day until the twenty 762 00:50:54,795 --> 00:50:58,395 Speaker 1: twenty four presidential election, the two hundred and thirty second 763 00:50:58,515 --> 00:51:02,155 Speaker 1: day since Dictator Jay Trump's first attempted coup against the 764 00:51:02,195 --> 00:51:05,955 Speaker 1: democratically elected government of the United States. Use the legal 765 00:51:06,075 --> 00:51:09,915 Speaker 1: system such as it is, use the mental health system, 766 00:51:10,395 --> 00:51:14,515 Speaker 1: use presidential immunity if it happens, Use the not regularly 767 00:51:14,595 --> 00:51:18,715 Speaker 1: given elector objection option to stop him from doing it 768 00:51:18,755 --> 00:51:25,075 Speaker 1: again while we still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. 769 00:51:25,435 --> 00:51:28,195 Speaker 1: Still day to day. On that with the sinus, We're 770 00:51:28,235 --> 00:51:32,115 Speaker 1: all day to day, especially me, till the next one. 771 00:51:32,635 --> 00:51:36,515 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Oulrimman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and 772 00:51:36,595 --> 00:51:55,155 Speaker 1: good luck. Countdown with Keith Olreman is a production of iHeartRadio. 773 00:51:55,435 --> 00:51:59,795 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple 774 00:51:59,875 --> 00:52:02,835 Speaker 1: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts,