Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi everybody, Okay
Speaker 1: this week Tori is not with us, but Amy and
Speaker 1: I are going to do our best move forward. I
Speaker 1: did not sleep last night. I'm not sure. Were you nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm just like overwhelmed by it, because okay, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? You always you're acting normal? Now is
Speaker 1: something about to happen? That's okay, you guys. Um Steve
Speaker 1: Sanders is going to be on our show, just saying
Speaker 1: he's going to co host with us today and I, okay,
Speaker 1: you guys before he gets off. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: look like I was trying too hard like this has been.
Speaker 1: I have not slept because it's like I want to
Speaker 1: look good what you do, thank you so much, But
Speaker 1: I don't want to look like trying too hard or
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm my shure. It's like a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit open, a little bit further than But
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be too weird and I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like creeped out because I still like
Speaker 1: friends with him, so I don't And you're still, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like still I have a professional relationship, yes, like
Speaker 1: I have to be normal. I literally, for the last
Speaker 1: hour I've been saying to myself, abnormal, abnormal, abnormal, This
Speaker 1: is normal abnormal. Oh my gosh, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see how this goes. He's so great with that. Let's
Speaker 1: have let's have Iron Zerring join us. What's up, beautiful?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys, this is so exciting for me.
Speaker 1: But wait, but it's much much, much, much more exciting
Speaker 1: for Amy. Sugarman. Uh start, don't start, let me back up.
Speaker 1: So everybody, thank you for tuning in for another week
Speaker 1: of nine O two and o MG. We're so excited
Speaker 1: to be with you, and Tori is off this week.
Speaker 1: But we have the ex best thing, if, if there
Speaker 1: is such a thing, we have with almost today I
Speaker 1: almost said better, No, Amy, never better. Well in your eyes,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, but we have with us today,
Speaker 1: Iron Searing, filling in as a co host, feeling what's
Speaker 1: going on? Jen? How are you? Amy? Hi? Everybody who's
Speaker 1: watching this completely new. I don't do podcasts, but they're
Speaker 1: they're not watching, they're listening to Hello, they're listening to it. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're listening to it. Okay, Hi, Oh my gosh, I'm giddy.
Speaker 1: To see you. Every time I see you, I'm just
Speaker 1: so happy. You're a smile maker to meet you. Have
Speaker 1: you seen each other since you were on the plane together. No,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen each other since uh one of us
Speaker 1: kicked the other ones duty in the in the don't
Speaker 1: even get you got for not not coming through with
Speaker 1: I dream of Genie. It's like unbelievable. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: let it go, you guys. He's talking about we did
Speaker 1: an episode of uh name that tune. It's coming on
Speaker 1: very soon on Fox in the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: so we can't give it away. Who did what? But
Speaker 1: there were mistakes all around I so don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: We we can never live that down in each other's eyes.
Speaker 1: That was embarrassing. This theme song will grant you three wishes,
Speaker 1: Like how many freaking shows? How many theme songs could
Speaker 1: have possibly been? I completely blanked and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: nine notes. I figured I could figure it out nine notes,
Speaker 1: and then you jumped to six. But Jenny, you little
Speaker 1: sneaky bird, you Jenny like before the show is like,
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything. I don't remember anything. I can
Speaker 1: name that tune in two weeks and so she says,
Speaker 1: all right, I can name that tune in six notes.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking she's trying to flex zombie and I'm like,
Speaker 1: go ahead, named that too, and she busts out I
Speaker 1: dream of Genie and it was a knife in my heart,
Speaker 1: a smack in my face, and a kick in my
Speaker 1: pants all at once. Out. I knew she kicked your ass.
Speaker 1: We knew it. Oh, I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you're welcome. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I grew up watching that show, so
Speaker 1: I had to know that watching that show too. It's
Speaker 1: the first belly button I've ever seen on TV. So
Speaker 1: don't even tell me I've got graphic memories of of
Speaker 1: gene your shame. Oh yeah, so we haven't. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen each other caught up since Ireland and that was
Speaker 1: just a great trip. I had so much fun, uh
Speaker 1: pub crawling with you or whatever that was that we did.
Speaker 1: We look out, We laughed our asses off, oh my god,
Speaker 1: as we always do. You know, people think that, you know,
Speaker 1: they're probably not friends anymore, and you know that's not true.
Speaker 1: We're really friendly with the entire cast. It's just geography
Speaker 1: that separates us. We don't have the benefit and joy
Speaker 1: of working, you know, shoulder to shoulder every day. That
Speaker 1: was a ten year event that set the stage for
Speaker 1: a lifelong friendship, and I'm grateful for it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you. We followed each other's post. Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you can ask on the golf course. I don't know
Speaker 1: you had an ounce of athleticism and now you're like
Speaker 1: smacking the ball like a pro. You never thought I
Speaker 1: had an ounce of athleticism. Did you see my skills
Speaker 1: on the volleyball court in season three? Hello? Didn't you
Speaker 1: have a stand in for that? Oh? Probably? I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: I you know what, We've never done anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, in front of the camera. But you
Speaker 1: know you you're really I've got to tell you. I'm
Speaker 1: impressed with your your golf game. You want to go
Speaker 1: with me? You want to go golf on with me? No?
Speaker 1: I hate golf. I'm good for nine holes for me personally,
Speaker 1: golf is five holes too long around thirteen I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I'm done, me too. Four sleeves of balls, Yeah, I'm great.
Speaker 1: You know when I go I like to play a
Speaker 1: best ball, hits but you play the best ball, quick couple.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of good jokes, and I like
Speaker 1: a nice corn beat sandwich on the night, and I'm
Speaker 1: I like a glass of wine. That's why I go.
Speaker 1: I go wine and nine, No, nine and wine and
Speaker 1: nine and wine. That's that's why I don't love it
Speaker 1: as much. Yeah, you gotta come play with me. Okay, done,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go do that. I don't know Amy though,
Speaker 1: but today I was so excited that Iron was coming
Speaker 1: on the show today that I I would I wore
Speaker 1: my tank top. I could hardly sleep last night. I
Speaker 1: had to get Steve Sanders tank top, and I wore
Speaker 1: my Well it's not a belly shirt, but I can
Speaker 1: make it that way. But I also wore I was sure.
Speaker 1: I was. Yes, it was very disappointing. We didn't see
Speaker 1: the shorty short shorts in the episode. No, no, no
Speaker 1: shorts in this wet like a bare middriff and shorts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you give us a lot of material to
Speaker 1: work with. I with the costumes, I'm sorry. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like I had a friend to clue me in
Speaker 1: on fashion. Okay, there was no mirror in my dressing room,
Speaker 1: nobody spoke up. Who the hell wears their shirts like this?
Speaker 1: What the hell you do? You do? My friend, and
Speaker 1: you do it? How much input did you have in
Speaker 1: that wardrobe? I care to admit Amy a lot. I
Speaker 1: thought I was being cool. You know you were. There's
Speaker 1: war those shirts. It's a huge mistake, and you had
Speaker 1: big guns like you wanted to show them off. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest, it was. It was all to deflect on
Speaker 1: that I didn't have any talent, so I had to,
Speaker 1: like when we when we did nine O two on
Speaker 1: b H O two on oh, when I had to
Speaker 1: go back and talk to my younger Steve self, I
Speaker 1: had to make sure I know I got something much
Speaker 1: better to warn them about the future. Never to wear
Speaker 1: those belly shirts again. Never throw them out. It's not
Speaker 1: the belly shirts. And it stood out to us so
Speaker 1: much as the shorts that are like underwear. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: those those running shorts, but everybody wore them. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm feel so much of your legs, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: um yeah, thank you. Look, I'm trying to control myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get too like flirty, but you
Speaker 1: you know what a fan, Amy is right, You're like
Speaker 1: my favorite favorite. I'm not gonna thank you. I like
Speaker 1: Jason a lot, but you're my favorite. So you look good,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to make it seem like you
Speaker 1: didn't look good and you look really good now, but
Speaker 1: your fashion isn't good in this show. In this show, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Um, it's reflective of the time. It's reflective
Speaker 1: of of Steve Sanders attitude, very a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't care what people said. You know,
Speaker 1: that's maybe when he went home and cried to beat
Speaker 1: some of you, but that you know, Steve Sanders was
Speaker 1: very flashy. Uh. He did things with no regard for
Speaker 1: consequences because he always felt that he could possibly buy
Speaker 1: his way out of that. And later he learned through
Speaker 1: his own evolution the value of the friendship and and
Speaker 1: decided to chase respect rather than chase being cool. Uh.
Speaker 1: And now that really was the arc of the character
Speaker 1: that created a lot of facets to Steve. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: in the early years, it was a spoiled rich kid.
Speaker 1: Why would why wouldn't you wear those razor glasses? Had
Speaker 1: you remember those that had like sharp pointy ends, like
Speaker 1: what a you know, me saw kind of a really
Speaker 1: cool side of Steve in the episode the Backstory, because
Speaker 1: you really did you defend your mom and you've gotten
Speaker 1: Michael Cutlet's face in this one. You were like, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to bring game that that episode. That was
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times they would write stuff
Speaker 1: for me that was unexpected. I'm like, oh great, this
Speaker 1: is creates a little depth of character. You know. When
Speaker 1: we first started started doing the show, I hated Steve
Speaker 1: Sanders such a prank you like nobody. I didn't like him.
Speaker 1: I didn't like him. I had a meeting with the
Speaker 1: writers and Rose and like, look, no one's gonna like
Speaker 1: this kid. It's a spoiled, rich kid. He's brash, he's obnoxious.
Speaker 1: We need to find something redeeming about him. Okay, otherwise
Speaker 1: it's one note and it's gonna be a slow death. Wow.
Speaker 1: So they put their heads together and they came up
Speaker 1: with the fact that he was a victim of poor parenting,
Speaker 1: that he was adopted and his mom, who was a celebrity,
Speaker 1: and his father, who was an entrepreneur, really just adopted
Speaker 1: a kid. Me out of love, but more so out
Speaker 1: of like, look at me, I'm a good person. I
Speaker 1: adopted a kid, but never really nurtured him other than
Speaker 1: putting a hundred dollar bills in his pockets and letting
Speaker 1: him figure out his ways uh forward, by himself. It
Speaker 1: wasn't until he met Brandon and Brenda and understood you know,
Speaker 1: greater family values, um that he started to to evolve.
Speaker 1: You know when before the show, the pre life of
Speaker 1: the show was Stephen Kelly, and you know, Steve thought like,
Speaker 1: I got this beautiful Kelly on my arm, and this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the best and where the couple and
Speaker 1: you know, I think Kelly to heloped a sense of
Speaker 1: a greater depth of character in wanting something more, knowing
Speaker 1: that it wasn't with Steve, uh the love that she
Speaker 1: had yearned for, and then when she read Brandon and Delon,
Speaker 1: you know, it took it to a greater level. That
Speaker 1: was that was her journey. Steve's was more about himself.
Speaker 1: He found a family in the Walshes. And I love
Speaker 1: that we all found a family in the Walshes. Yea.
Speaker 1: And it made the family that I had prior to them.
Speaker 1: David Silver was never in Steve Sanders orbit. He was
Speaker 1: a little kid Donna. You know, Kelly and Donna may
Speaker 1: have hung out a little bit, but she was an
Speaker 1: underclassman as well. It just it just pulled the draw
Speaker 1: string a little closer on the group of friends that
Speaker 1: he had interesting once the Walshes were included into that fabric. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just love the way Steven so always been so
Speaker 1: protective of his mama though, like you, even though she's
Speaker 1: not your birth mom, she's your mom and you the
Speaker 1: character Steve is always there and like ready to fist
Speaker 1: up for her, And I love that about you. Was
Speaker 1: that something that you wanted to play or did they
Speaker 1: bring that to you or do you remember? You know
Speaker 1: it once you read the words, you've got to bring
Speaker 1: your life to those experiences, and it was an easy
Speaker 1: choice for me. Um And I think you know, any
Speaker 1: time that you can uh champion a cause or create
Speaker 1: a situation that you know might be uh not what
Speaker 1: people expect, but have a have more impact than what
Speaker 1: they expect, it is always going to be a better choice.
Speaker 1: That's what the way I approached things as an actor.
Speaker 1: When they brought you know, Steve's mom into the picture
Speaker 1: and then we've found out that he was adopted, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what my thought process was
Speaker 1: at the time. But I think, you know, if I
Speaker 1: look back at it now, if someone goes to the
Speaker 1: trouble of adopting a child, I would think, hopefully ideally
Speaker 1: that child would be imbued with a sense of gratitude
Speaker 1: and appreciation and go worder the mat for someone who
Speaker 1: gave gave up a chunk of their life to share
Speaker 1: and nurture and raise you. So you know there, that
Speaker 1: was the greatest gift that Steve ever got was to
Speaker 1: be adopted by Samantha and Rush even though they were
Speaker 1: screw ups. Rush Sanders, Oh my god, Jenny, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I know, character never good God. Yeah, you know. And
Speaker 1: then at that time they bought Florence and remember her.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember Florence. No, you're making stuff up now,
Speaker 1: nothing with me whatever. I'm just trying to point out
Speaker 1: that it made your character more lovable, all right, thank
Speaker 1: you talked about that before Iron where I feel like
Speaker 1: Brandon and Steve because I think maybe, like in the Zeit, guys,
Speaker 1: everyone's always like Brandon and Dylan, Brandon and Dylan they
Speaker 1: were best friends. But I actually really think that Brandon
Speaker 1: and Steve we're best friends, were way closer, especially up
Speaker 1: until this the episodes we've rewatched. Yeah, um yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the opposites of the two characters really created a
Speaker 1: mutual respect and attraction. You know, there was a certain
Speaker 1: sameness to Brandon and Dylan that helped them commune on
Speaker 1: on that level. But what you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: that Brandon and Dylan were right or die buddies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think they were great friends, best
Speaker 1: friends even But I think, you know, if if there
Speaker 1: was an opportunity to jump in front of a bullet,
Speaker 1: uh to stop it from hitting his buddy, I think
Speaker 1: Steve would have would have done that. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that Brandon would have done it
Speaker 1: begrudgingly because he knows, like I would never be in
Speaker 1: a situation where his guns in the first place. Um.
Speaker 1: And then, I don't know, I think Brandon Dylan, I
Speaker 1: think instead of either of those guys jumping in front
Speaker 1: of the bullet, I think they maybe would have pushed
Speaker 1: them out of the way kind of thing. So while
Speaker 1: it's still there's still that uh love, it's not the
Speaker 1: kind you would go to the mad for. I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's my opinion. I'm well, I'm welcome I'm welcoming conjecture
Speaker 1: on this. I don't know the truth and this is
Speaker 1: all uh theoretical, But yeah, I think Brandon and Steve
Speaker 1: were true best friends did too, especially just as we're
Speaker 1: rewatching when they really like communicate more like it's Brandon
Speaker 1: will see Dylan like in the hallway, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh hey, and every once in a while
Speaker 1: they sort of have a moment. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's because of Brenda. I mean, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: little bit too in the weeds, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: if you really could be best friends with your sisters, dude,
Speaker 1: But everything I've seen always makes me feel like it's
Speaker 1: Steven Brandon that are really the besties. We'll push it
Speaker 1: twenty five years down the line. You know, are they
Speaker 1: still talking or like? Who which which set of friends
Speaker 1: are still talking? Which set of friends are still friends
Speaker 1: but have grown apart? Like which one of these pairs
Speaker 1: probably talk once or twice a month, Which pair probably
Speaker 1: talks once or twice a year? Right? You know that
Speaker 1: that he focuses for me. Dylan was very independent, very
Speaker 1: much a loaner, very much I'm gonna do it. And
Speaker 1: he was surfing he was off visiting his dad, he
Speaker 1: was off with his girlfriend. He was more of a loner.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't degrade the relationship as much as it
Speaker 1: really shines a light on the closeness, how tight knit
Speaker 1: the companionship was between the two Bats. And that's for
Speaker 1: both Brandon and Steve and for Brandon and Dylon. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys know irons with us, and we're going
Speaker 1: to jump into this week's episode because there's a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about and we have him here, so let's
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited
Speaker 1: this week. Uh is season three, episode eight. The backstory
Speaker 1: aired on September six nine, And since Tory isn't here, uh, sugarman,
Speaker 1: would you like to read the synopsis? I don't have
Speaker 1: an in front of me. During s A T Week,
Speaker 1: Brenda tries desperately to quit smoking habit. Oh, I gotta
Speaker 1: try it to get hold on starting over good. During
Speaker 1: s A T Week, Brenda tries desperately to quit the
Speaker 1: smoking habit she picked up while in Paris. At the
Speaker 1: same time, she talks a little too openly to Beth Nielsen,
Speaker 1: a tabloid TV reporter, about life in Beverly Hills. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Nikky turns her sights on Brandon and tries to win
Speaker 1: his affections, and an academic shortcut tempts Steve when a
Speaker 1: West Beverly alumni b J. Harrison offers him the master
Speaker 1: key to the school. Directed by Bradley Gross, written by
Speaker 1: Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, and starring Irons Eering. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you guys, can we get Hien's opinion right
Speaker 1: at the top about Jason Slash Brandon's aggressive kissing, Like
Speaker 1: he's an aggressive kiss That is one of my notes
Speaker 1: this week. Amy, I'm like, wait, Brandon just grabs whoever
Speaker 1: he wants and kisses them. He meets a girl, no,
Speaker 1: Jason Brandon. Yeah, he he just grabs their head and
Speaker 1: kisses them in the middle of a sentence whatever, whenever
Speaker 1: the impulse strikes him. Yeah, Jason's very impassioned aggressive. I
Speaker 1: don't know, let's let's go with passion. That's a better word.
Speaker 1: It's a much more politically correct word. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: to get anybody in any trouble, and you can't say
Speaker 1: aggressive these days. Well, pardon me. He's very strong about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't women like that? Amy. Of course, Hello, that
Speaker 1: is a generalization. Not all women like that to being
Speaker 1: grabbed by the head and pushed into a kiss. When
Speaker 1: he kissed Nicky I was in I'm talking about kissed passionately,
Speaker 1: you know, with intention, looking into her eyes. He holds
Speaker 1: her and he's just so taken he you know, he Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jen, you kissed him more than I did?
Speaker 1: This was that? Did he do that every time you
Speaker 1: guys had that kind of scene? Uh? No, not every time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about you? So? Actually never, He's never really grabbed
Speaker 1: me by the hair and kissed me. So if he
Speaker 1: did grab you by the hair back in the day,
Speaker 1: he would have gotten a nice handful with that mullet. Though,
Speaker 1: I want to point out, Yeah, the hair is a
Speaker 1: little shorter now, about forty hairs shorter. But let's move on.
Speaker 1: You look good, You look good. Party in the front.
Speaker 1: What was it? Wait? Hold on, party up front? No
Speaker 1: business upfront, party in the rear? Yeah? Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: as many kisses up until season three, like I wasn't
Speaker 1: kissing anybody. Were you angry about that? I sent? I
Speaker 1: think my first kiss was I think episode fourteen when
Speaker 1: Steve Vett got stolen and when I found out that
Speaker 1: they hired like two playboy playmates to Jay and I
Speaker 1: were like, dude, right, I remember that they were playmates
Speaker 1: and you guys were so stoked. Yeah. Well, but we
Speaker 1: were more concerned that they were good actress and they delivered. Recently,
Speaker 1: saw the kisses with the twins that we yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what when you have the twins swap right? That
Speaker 1: was juicy. You kissed me hello, you don't remember that?
Speaker 1: Oh which which time yet? On the stairs? Or perhaps
Speaker 1: before that in the garage when you made me practice
Speaker 1: it with you? Oh? Yeah? All that you're you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's supposed to be a packet. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to stick your tongue about ear, Jenny. We're rehearsing here.
Speaker 1: I understand passion, but let's move on. You just have
Speaker 1: such hot ears. I can help myself, you know if
Speaker 1: every time I've heard that, Jenny, the romances are a
Speaker 1: great part of the show. Their iconic, So it's like,
Speaker 1: what can you do? Like these relationships you guys have
Speaker 1: are iconic. It's all about that. Well, okay, so this
Speaker 1: week's episode was starts out on the S A T S.
Speaker 1: And everybody's like freaked out about the s A T S.
Speaker 1: And it's okay. I'm just curious what they start out
Speaker 1: when they say scan, discard, select, move on. This is
Speaker 1: the teachings of the guy that's saying this is what
Speaker 1: you need to do to prepare to take the SA
Speaker 1: T S. Is that real? Do they really tell people scan, discard, select,
Speaker 1: move on before they take the SA T S. It's
Speaker 1: probably from the Kaplan School of academic research. It makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. You know, you scan, you look for
Speaker 1: the right answer, and then if you don't know what,
Speaker 1: move on. You narrow down what what doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: You throw away what doesn't make sense, and then you
Speaker 1: take a look at the choices that are left and
Speaker 1: then and then move on. You know, I never took
Speaker 1: the s A T S. So how did you get
Speaker 1: out of high school without? Did you finish? Yeah? But
Speaker 1: how do you get out of high school without taking
Speaker 1: the s A T S. I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: good that way. I took a prep course. You're going
Speaker 1: to college? Yeah, oh yeah, I took a prep course
Speaker 1: and there was something like that. I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: what that's probably exactly what it was, but yeah, they
Speaker 1: teach you how to take the test. How crazy is
Speaker 1: it now that these kids don't even have to take
Speaker 1: it anymore? Like me, I was ahead of my I
Speaker 1: was ahead of the curve. I knew it wasn't necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't take it. My fifth grader had to apply
Speaker 1: to get into middle school. How about that? No, I know,
Speaker 1: it's don't fully a ball at Wait, isn't it? Aren't
Speaker 1: you allowed to go to school? Isn't that compulsory? I've
Speaker 1: got to apply? Yeah, you want to go to here
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, there's several different schools, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to go to a particular school, you
Speaker 1: have to apply a ten page application and there was
Speaker 1: no legacy key and you gotta pay the big bucks.
Speaker 1: Is that a lot of pressure on you, dad? Hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more on my parents. Yeah. Yeah, especially when they
Speaker 1: asked the child to fill in the last two pages.
Speaker 1: You gotta like hand the form to them to answer
Speaker 1: and say, please, just messed us up, don't screw I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be proof reading your answers before we are listen. Sorry.
Speaker 1: I would love it if you were my dad. I
Speaker 1: think you'd be such a fun dad. Your girls are
Speaker 1: so lucky. Thanks Jenny, I uh, you know, Dad's the
Speaker 1: best role I'll ever play, and I enjoy it. You're
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cigarette smoking in this episode, and
Speaker 1: it really bugged me. Oh my gosh. It was a
Speaker 1: little bit like after School Special. It was perfectly placed
Speaker 1: in every scene and pointed out, and the Kelly's very
Speaker 1: against it. I wonder if that's where, like I developed
Speaker 1: my disdain for smoking, Like I can't stand cigarettes or
Speaker 1: smoking at this point. I don't think I was in
Speaker 1: one scene while they were smoking. You probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: done it if I know you. First of all, I
Speaker 1: am pore smoking. I can't. Even when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid, my mom had a quit smoking because I
Speaker 1: couldn't breathe. And I've never smoked a cigarette. I mean
Speaker 1: I've held more and faked it in front of the camera,
Speaker 1: but I've never smoked a cigarette. And I like don't
Speaker 1: even like to be in the company of people that
Speaker 1: that do. That doesn't mean I don't like those people,
Speaker 1: It's just I can't breathe. So you think they made
Speaker 1: that a storyline to ultimately make it such a big
Speaker 1: deal to not do it. I mean, it was very
Speaker 1: in your face in this episode. She's smoking in a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Not only in a restaurant, she also goes and smokes
Speaker 1: inside of a winnebago where they where they're editing a
Speaker 1: top story or whatever the backstory show. I'm like that
Speaker 1: poor editor man is sitting there inhaling all her smoke.
Speaker 1: It really was a huge storyline in this episode, like
Speaker 1: it was. But I guess this is it that like
Speaker 1: she's I'm I'm assuming there's gonna be no more smoking
Speaker 1: after this episode. You know, that's one thing about our show.
Speaker 1: They did every once in a while, they throw in
Speaker 1: an episode that was issue oriented, you know, something that
Speaker 1: um was a lesson to be learned. They would slide
Speaker 1: it in there, and you know, it wasn't too heavy handed.
Speaker 1: It was done in a way that was true to
Speaker 1: the the demographic. You know, young kids in high schools,
Speaker 1: they're they're exposed to smoking. They would smoke to be cool. Um.
Speaker 1: I remember there was an episode where he freaked out
Speaker 1: because he had like a skin cancer, and the whole
Speaker 1: damn episode turned into a p s A. It was
Speaker 1: so dumb. I was thinking, someone's being paid. What season
Speaker 1: is this? I don't even remember what's that is it? Later?
Speaker 1: Is it coming up. It's later. Yeah, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: that one yet. Oh, I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's almost too much. I felt. That was
Speaker 1: how I felt about the cigarettes in this one, Like
Speaker 1: I got the point, but it was a little bit
Speaker 1: so like on the nose that you're just like, we
Speaker 1: get it. She smoked. Smoking is bad. Brandon is better
Speaker 1: than Brenda. Like there was a lot of that, like
Speaker 1: where you realize Brandon is the perfect kid and Brenda's
Speaker 1: the f up you know what I mean? That was
Speaker 1: really but they smoked in real life, like Jason, Luke, Shannon,
Speaker 1: they were all smokers, you know. At that ended very quickly,
Speaker 1: uh right after that, but they came to the show
Speaker 1: all being smokers. I think that that was it. I
Speaker 1: don't maybe you know, Brian was smoking for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know, he was smoking those beats or whatever
Speaker 1: those clothes things were, and I don't know, nobody smokes.
Speaker 1: What was in those is that wacky tobacky? No, it
Speaker 1: was I think it was clothes or something. Oh, clothes
Speaker 1: right right? Yeah, just like really don't even This was
Speaker 1: also the big legacy key Master Key episode for Steve
Speaker 1: when b j uh picks Steve to carry on the
Speaker 1: tradition of criminal action. But yes, like's it's passed down
Speaker 1: by generations and generations of like breaking into the schools
Speaker 1: like great banks or something. What's a great thing, get
Speaker 1: in and steals tests or do whatever. And it was
Speaker 1: fick for Steve because he's just the kind of guy
Speaker 1: that will take an advantage of the situation where he
Speaker 1: can get over on the man. J did you end
Speaker 1: up taking the key? And I can't think we know yet.
Speaker 1: It's like you don't know if you have it. He
Speaker 1: has the key, but we don't know if you use
Speaker 1: it yet. Yeah. I'm not going to give away any secrets,
Speaker 1: but Steve has a legacy key. What do you think
Speaker 1: he's gonna do with it? Okay, you really don't have
Speaker 1: to think too hard on this one. And okay, did
Speaker 1: you not think that was so? Like? Okay, so b J.
Speaker 1: Harrison or whatever his name was, who I liked, by
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, he was cute. And that was also
Speaker 1: a little Tiboth. That was Brooke Langton playing SuDS Lipton.
Speaker 1: You guys remember her. She went on to be on
Speaker 1: Melrose Place. Oh, his girlfriend, and her name was She
Speaker 1: was cute. Yea. She went on to do a lot
Speaker 1: of acting. But that guy is so mean to Steve,
Speaker 1: but yet he picked Steve to give him the key.
Speaker 1: It was like so weird. It's like, you're being so
Speaker 1: mean to my Steve, but yet you're choosing him to
Speaker 1: give him this like key. Yeah, you had to bust
Speaker 1: your chops or something. Yeah, no, uh no, attempt to know.
Speaker 1: There was no reason not to bus Steve's chops. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's like he's the only one on the entire cast
Speaker 1: that you can bust chops without Steve. Do you like it?
Speaker 1: Like I want to know. I n feels about Steve,
Speaker 1: Like really, oh Amy, Steve Sanders has been very good
Speaker 1: to me. I like Steve. I appreciate Steve. Steve. You know,
Speaker 1: everywhere I go, literally in the world, I'm reminded how
Speaker 1: much I appreciate Steve because of the the joy and
Speaker 1: pleasure and fun that he brought to so many people
Speaker 1: around the world. He's like for me, he's like the
Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving. Fortunate for me, in two thousand,
Speaker 1: I got to live my own life. Then, you know,
Speaker 1: Steve and I stopped sharing in existence his life, though
Speaker 1: stunted Will go on a lot longer than mine. But
Speaker 1: I did like Steve's he was a jungle gym to play,
Speaker 1: you know, he was an opportunity for me. I never
Speaker 1: missed a day of work in ten years. I was
Speaker 1: never too sick that I didn't go in. It was
Speaker 1: uh for loss. I lost a grandma, my mom passed
Speaker 1: away during that Those the only days that I missed work.
Speaker 1: And you are never late. I don't remember a time
Speaker 1: where you're ever late. I you know what I would?
Speaker 1: I still do. I jump out of bed every morning
Speaker 1: and like make my movesyched myself up, change my physiology
Speaker 1: to get myself the passion to to get after it.
Speaker 1: And wait, wait, wait, let me talk to you about
Speaker 1: that for a second. You do you you every morning
Speaker 1: you have to like psych yourself up like we all do,
Speaker 1: but like you really do it. It's not really psyching
Speaker 1: myself up. It's more of like seas in the Carpe
Speaker 1: d m incantations. Every day and every way, I'm getting
Speaker 1: stronger and stronger every day, and every way I getting
Speaker 1: in the shower, like every day and every day you
Speaker 1: believe in positive affirmations. That's what you're saying. I like that, right,
Speaker 1: now you have more energy than any person I've ever known.
Speaker 1: You've always had more energy, more positivity. Why why you
Speaker 1: making fun of my hairy arms? No? No, my my
Speaker 1: arm hair is standing up. I've just got myself in
Speaker 1: such a state that it's like, it's because you're talking
Speaker 1: to me. What are you talking about. I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to be on this podcast with you guys to begin with.
Speaker 1: But you know when you talk about coming to work,
Speaker 1: I love what I do. I absolutely love, love love
Speaker 1: what I do. Every listening realizes, like you are genuinely
Speaker 1: the nicest person, Like you get dogs, you are children.
Speaker 1: I'm got edged because I when I texted, I am
Speaker 1: because I texted last minute, like, can you fill in
Speaker 1: for Tory? Like you are the nicest person. I gotta
Speaker 1: change that attitude. It's not working for you. I have
Speaker 1: to ask you, guys. So, Hollywood four or five, six,
Speaker 1: nine wants to know where do you see Steve Sanders? Oh?
Speaker 1: Clearly I see him in the cloud forest of Costa Rica,
Speaker 1: where he is the personal life coach to the world's
Speaker 1: most interesting man. I mean, really, where else is he?
Speaker 1: He just pulls this right up like that that fast
Speaker 1: always yeah, and he is he married, Did he is
Speaker 1: he married? No? No? Yeah? Was he ever married? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was married to Janet. He has baby? Oh? Hello,
Speaker 1: have you seen that episode yet? This is a hologram.
Speaker 1: You're not really, Jenny, No, I really am. It's barely
Speaker 1: see the puppet springs. Think he has more kids? Um,
Speaker 1: I think he has more than one child. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if he has more. He got divorced from Janet.
Speaker 1: You know. I think Janet probably divorced him. And I
Speaker 1: think it's because it's sad, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: it's because I don't know that Steve really has the
Speaker 1: skill set two have long, deep, meaningful relationships. I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's never really displayed believe that. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that at all. I see you Steve having those
Speaker 1: developing those and that's what you do at that age. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't sell him short. I'm not. There's nothing short.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm trying to push
Speaker 1: the narrative where it would have been more interesting to see,
Speaker 1: to see Steve have more ups and downs. Right, you know,
Speaker 1: married as an art but like married, divorced, new love, um,
Speaker 1: being torn between you know, you know, I just think
Speaker 1: being torn is so much more dramatic than playing the
Speaker 1: marriage note on TV. It doesn't. I'm name three successful
Speaker 1: marriages that you've seen on TV Monica Monica and Chandler
Speaker 1: Monican Ship. Well, oh the guys from This is It? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one and you know what's his doozy on Modern Family?
Speaker 1: We can do it. Yeah, there there are certainly several,
Speaker 1: but uh, I just my point is, I think it's
Speaker 1: more more interesting. There's more drama opportunity, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: otherwise then you have to bring you more characters to
Speaker 1: to add color. T J twelve ten wants to know
Speaker 1: who is Steve's true love? Who is Steve's true love?
Speaker 1: Do I have to like Kelly Kelly Teller? Of course,
Speaker 1: thanks for reminding me, like thinking, do we have to
Speaker 1: stay within the combines of those ten years? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I would actually say that without you
Speaker 1: even uh nudging me. Jin. You know, first true love
Speaker 1: was was Kelly Taylor, and I think that though there
Speaker 1: they didn't go on to be a couple. I think
Speaker 1: that Steve will always love Kelly. I think he will
Speaker 1: always look out for her and realize that, you know,
Speaker 1: through his own screw ups, or for whatever it was
Speaker 1: that they broke up, was that she was the one
Speaker 1: that he let getaway. I find that like watching back
Speaker 1: this early seasons and seeing their relationship develop the way
Speaker 1: that it has so far, it gives me such an
Speaker 1: appreciation for you and for my relationship with you, because
Speaker 1: not unlike Kelly and Steve, you and I have a
Speaker 1: very beautiful, you know, long standing relationship and you're always
Speaker 1: you will always be one of my very favorite people
Speaker 1: in the world. And I feel like our characters sort
Speaker 1: of felt that way about each other too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's what we do. We bring our life to
Speaker 1: those imaginary circumstances, and that's how those characters bloom by
Speaker 1: what we bring to the plate, what we bring to
Speaker 1: the table from our own personal relationship, it's just going
Speaker 1: to transfer, especially since the writing facilitated that. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they created bump or bumps or or any kind
Speaker 1: of uh dressed between us, any kind of conflict, you know,
Speaker 1: we would have played that. You know, I think probably
Speaker 1: would have had an underlying tone as like I love you,
Speaker 1: but I don't like you kind of stuff. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: saw that so much. When Grant Show Guests starred with
Speaker 1: Jenny because Steve comes to the door and I remember
Speaker 1: being like heartbroken, yeah in that, and it was some
Speaker 1: of Jenny's like amazing work, Like I really saw like
Speaker 1: a Kelly change then, and it was like you were
Speaker 1: at the door and there's Grant show and you're kind
Speaker 1: of like what's that, Like Steve, so what's happening? And
Speaker 1: it was so devastating punch stuff. Yes, the show would
Speaker 1: do that every once in a while. It was great
Speaker 1: moments like that, and they, of course they would fill
Speaker 1: it with such wonderful music that would just increase the
Speaker 1: sorrow or heartbreak. Sound design was so great. Whoever did
Speaker 1: sound on our show was so good in making it
Speaker 1: play up or emphasized. There's a theme song on some
Speaker 1: commercial that us constantly right now on Channel four about
Speaker 1: it's like some insurance car commercial and it's like that
Speaker 1: this like or like this guitar riff. And every single
Speaker 1: time I hear that commercial, I turned around and I
Speaker 1: think that our shows on because it's like the same
Speaker 1: sound as the theme song from our show. Now I've
Speaker 1: got that stuck in my head. I know I'm going
Speaker 1: to hear that today at some point, Like that's what
Speaker 1: you're talking about? I'm not pulling it right now. You'll know,
Speaker 1: You'll know Simon wants to know. There's an emotional scene
Speaker 1: that both of you remember, not necessarily with each other,
Speaker 1: but it just really stands out like the most emotional
Speaker 1: scene you had to shoot for Jimmy. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there was one There was one episode that I think
Speaker 1: it was the same episode that Steve Zvett got stolen,
Speaker 1: the slumber Party episode where I really, uh just got
Speaker 1: a huge dose of respect for what Jenny brings to
Speaker 1: the to the table and also an appreciation for how
Speaker 1: amazing our show is. When Kelly Taylor had to talk
Speaker 1: about a date that went wrong, and it was like
Speaker 1: the first time that it was an emotional spin on
Speaker 1: what up until that point had been glitz and glamour
Speaker 1: and the slumber party. Where Kelly is talking about how
Speaker 1: um was it great? He pushed himself on your right
Speaker 1: something like that, Jenny, And I'm watching this and I
Speaker 1: was riveted because as Kelly's talking, all of all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, tears start to drop and the camera's doing
Speaker 1: a slow push in and it just it gave me chills.
Speaker 1: And it was at that moment, like everyone uh on
Speaker 1: the cast at some point, UM gained a tremendous amount
Speaker 1: of respect when I saw something displayed or that they
Speaker 1: brought to the table that was beyond and very early on,
Speaker 1: Jen you did that in that episodes like Holy, that
Speaker 1: was awesome. Yeah, yeah, we all had to bring that though. That.
Speaker 1: I think that that's why people got so connected to
Speaker 1: these characters is because they really could feel their feelings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was That was such great work that I didn't
Speaker 1: see coming. Um. I remember another episode later when I
Speaker 1: was working with Lindsey Price Um where I would I
Speaker 1: don't remember the exact situation. I came to the door
Speaker 1: and it was either to break up or for her
Speaker 1: to tell me her parents didn't like me. And you know,
Speaker 1: we had to do it six times for some reason,
Speaker 1: director wanted to move the camera or one of the
Speaker 1: tap at it. But you know, Lindsey would start out
Speaker 1: with a like a dry palette and she'd be talking
Speaker 1: and it was such an emotional scene that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden the water would stop and it would start,
Speaker 1: and you know, for an actor to have that kind
Speaker 1: of skill is it's really amazing, you know, to be
Speaker 1: able to be brought internally to a level that You're
Speaker 1: able to convey that sense of sorrow for an imaginary circumstance. Uh, repeatedly.
Speaker 1: Uh was was amazing. She crushed it. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: everyone everyone at some point, and it didn't have to
Speaker 1: be through tears. It could be just through a particular
Speaker 1: line read or a particular situation where you know it
Speaker 1: wasn't expected. I mean, if I was, that character would
Speaker 1: have come out a different way. But I was so
Speaker 1: enamored and um enthralled by the performance of each and
Speaker 1: every one of my cast mates at one point or
Speaker 1: another when they were given the tools, when they were
Speaker 1: given the words to say that enabled them to really shine.
Speaker 1: That one particular episode, Jenny for You was like the
Speaker 1: beginning of me being in the awe of what you're capable.
Speaker 1: So sweet, I have a question, uh for you? Can
Speaker 1: I be the next question on the line? Okay, good,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you? Pick me. Uh. You have so
Speaker 1: many of the best ad libbing moments all the time.
Speaker 1: Every time it's always you ad lipping, and I know
Speaker 1: you brought so much, like in particular in this episode alone,
Speaker 1: when you walk up to Mrs Teasley in the hallway
Speaker 1: and you go you say, Mrs t how you be
Speaker 1: this is a favorite thing, like, and I'm like, only
Speaker 1: you could pull that off. And I know that wasn't
Speaker 1: in the script. You just brought so much, so much
Speaker 1: flavor to your character and with all your ad libs.
Speaker 1: I like to laugh a lot. I'm always looking for
Speaker 1: humor in everything. Do you just like an icebreaker? You
Speaker 1: were the guy that made everybody happy to be there? Oh?
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, I love you. Thank
Speaker 1: you sweet. It's like you guys really are. It's like
Speaker 1: I want everyone listening to know like they are. This
Speaker 1: is real. It's just so you guys will be bonded forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he cannot get rid of me or any of us. Nope,
Speaker 1: till the end of time. This episode also um we
Speaker 1: see Dylan visit his dad and jail briefly. Very briefly though,
Speaker 1: but his dad commences some good parenting advice to him
Speaker 1: from jail and convinced him to make something of himself.
Speaker 1: Go take his You know s A T S will
Speaker 1: you will? You want your girls to go to college? Yeah,
Speaker 1: schools over when college is thrown. If they want to
Speaker 1: go on to UH master's program or something more than that,
Speaker 1: that's an option. But I grew up in a family
Speaker 1: of educators. My father, all my aunts and uncles, there
Speaker 1: were five siblings altogether. They were all in education. My
Speaker 1: uncle was a principal. My father was a music teacher,
Speaker 1: and then he was a guidance counsel first his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: education is very important, Uh for me, I'm gonna pass
Speaker 1: that down to my kids. And if they want to
Speaker 1: stop school, it's after college. Good for you. My parents
Speaker 1: were educators too, and I didn't even graduate high school.
Speaker 1: I don't growing up. Growing up, I didn't know. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. I was in twelfth grade, graduating, heading to college,
Speaker 1: and I spoke to a buddy, I'm like, what college
Speaker 1: youre going to? I'm not going to college, Mike. What
Speaker 1: because like for me, tenth grade, eleventh grade, twelfth grade, college, freshman, senior, junior, whatever.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was an option. There was an option.
Speaker 1: It was never made like, no school, You'll be done
Speaker 1: with school when you're throw with college. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know that college was an option. It was weird. My
Speaker 1: father just yeah, I had. My brothers were ten years
Speaker 1: older than me, still our tenures on me, and they went,
Speaker 1: you know, one got an NBA, another got a master's one.
Speaker 1: One of my brothers went on got his PhD. But
Speaker 1: those were I knew those were options. But do you
Speaker 1: still think that in today, in the same age, college
Speaker 1: is vital to success. I think it's vital for a
Speaker 1: few reasons, not just for the course of study that
Speaker 1: you choose, but also for the socialization. Um it's uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got a nephew that I graduated with
Speaker 1: a poetry poetry degree. I'm not sure that was money
Speaker 1: well spent. This particular kid happens to be a Virginius,
Speaker 1: started a business and sold it to Boeing. That's some
Speaker 1: that's some poetry dedviers right there, right right. Um. I
Speaker 1: I feel college is important. You know, it's very difficult
Speaker 1: now that we live in a gig economy where people
Speaker 1: look to start their own business. I think the best
Speaker 1: course of study, if you're looking focusing on the lifestyle
Speaker 1: you want, would probably be business because everything else, you're
Speaker 1: going to be an employee, and employees are working a
Speaker 1: job and a job you know what job stands for
Speaker 1: journey of the broke. It's true. People that are working
Speaker 1: as an employee are not going to create the kind
Speaker 1: of wealth that's going to give them the life that
Speaker 1: they may long for. You got to own a business,
Speaker 1: so I think a business degree, uh is H is
Speaker 1: probably the best degree too to go forward. Otherwise you
Speaker 1: work hard for a living rather than smart for a lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Or even if you're studying something else, to minor in
Speaker 1: business would be a good choice. I mean, I'm always
Speaker 1: telling my girls that to just learn how to do
Speaker 1: business because it's going to be an integral part of
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you do moving forward. Because even
Speaker 1: if it's just your life, you're the CEO of your life,
Speaker 1: like you know how to run it, know how to
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. Absolutely. I had a I got
Speaker 1: a degree in in drama from my college. But my
Speaker 1: father said to me, look, you better have a plan B.
Speaker 1: You need to figure it out because not very many
Speaker 1: people make it as well. Was your plan B? What
Speaker 1: was your What was it? Um? Well? I wanted to
Speaker 1: do something that I could be passionate about. My dad said,
Speaker 1: you know, find something you love. You'll never work a
Speaker 1: day in your life. And you know, when I was
Speaker 1: in junior high school and high school, I loved saltwater fish.
Speaker 1: I had fish tanks at my house and I thought
Speaker 1: it would be interesting two maybe one day have I
Speaker 1: at that time called catcheries around the world where I
Speaker 1: could capture saltwater fish in their environment and then import
Speaker 1: them to the United States for the fish tank industry.
Speaker 1: And in college, my first two years of college, I
Speaker 1: worked in a fish store to learn the business while
Speaker 1: I was going to school, just because first of all,
Speaker 1: I got wholesale prices on all my fish, but then
Speaker 1: I also learned the business. I never knew this about you.
Speaker 1: I always wonder what that smell was, but I never
Speaker 1: knew that was the fish tank stank, you know, I
Speaker 1: swear I never knew you were a big fish guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't had a fish tank in thirty years.
Speaker 1: But in my early years. Somebody's birthday is coming, like
Speaker 1: maybe yours. How many days today is your birth birthday?
Speaker 1: Believe you're for you for days after mind, Jenny, So
Speaker 1: don't even Okay, nobody's getting any younger, nobody gets out
Speaker 1: of Okay, that's cute, you guys. You guys have your
Speaker 1: birthdays right near each other. We're both aries. Did you
Speaker 1: ever joint like a joint party? Back in the day,
Speaker 1: we partied a lot, But I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. At birthday parties together, yeah maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They would always get a birthday cake for everybody on
Speaker 1: the set or on the crew that was in that month,
Speaker 1: and then they would write everybody's name on the birthday cake.
Speaker 1: You remember that, So there was one cake for every month.
Speaker 1: I love cake day, Jenny. I just saw your eyes
Speaker 1: looked to the side. That was such a delicious reverie
Speaker 1: lived in that moment. Just you know, I'm hungry right
Speaker 1: how let me tell you something off topic right now?
Speaker 1: But I'm doing that fasting thing where you eat, you
Speaker 1: only eat for a certain amount of time and then
Speaker 1: I'm really hungry right now. Oh you, Jennet, to see
Speaker 1: my generation, we just call it missing breakfast. I guess
Speaker 1: so I'm used to my I like my berries in
Speaker 1: the morning. Anyway, how do we get to the places
Speaker 1: we get? I don't know. Well, let's get back to
Speaker 1: the episode. Let's let's let's any of you. Did you
Speaker 1: think of this episode in general? I kind of loved
Speaker 1: it and sort of laughed at it a little bit
Speaker 1: because it was I really liked it. It was like
Speaker 1: what it was so different. It was so centered around
Speaker 1: this like news story in this selation an inside edition,
Speaker 1: yeah story. I felt like it was a very special
Speaker 1: episode of you knows something super weird. So when you
Speaker 1: guys are taking the s a t S. So there's
Speaker 1: like all this stuff's happening, and then we go towards
Speaker 1: the end of the s A T S And I
Speaker 1: was like, is this camera being hand held? Like you
Speaker 1: guys have to rewatch the scene because it was shot
Speaker 1: so messy, Like I was like, what did they forget
Speaker 1: all the crew that day? And somebody showed up with
Speaker 1: like their camcorder. Maybe that's when the whole like handheld
Speaker 1: camera man it was saying. It was so jarring. I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what just happened? He directed this right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was At first, ad wasn't he? And then he becnted.
Speaker 1: I think he was one of the He used handheld
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Back then, handheld was much different than
Speaker 1: it is now because they don't nowadays. They have this
Speaker 1: contraption that the cameraman will wear which stabilizes the camera
Speaker 1: so there's no shake whatsoever. Bluid it's beautiful and that's
Speaker 1: what they use now. But back then it was literally
Speaker 1: a guy with a camera on his shoulder trying not
Speaker 1: to jiggle or sneeze or fart or anything, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was. There was a scene like everybody needs
Speaker 1: to rewatch it and tell me if I'm crazy or not.
Speaker 1: But I was like, what just happened? Like, am I
Speaker 1: watching like a weird I don't know. It felt the
Speaker 1: episode felt disjoined. It to me. I did like when
Speaker 1: seeing the twins together. I always love a good twin
Speaker 1: scene with Brandon and Brenda, so I enjoyed that. I
Speaker 1: thought Brandon was particularly I mean, I am You're still
Speaker 1: my favorite. You're my favorite. I'm just gonna but Brandon
Speaker 1: looked hot, like he looks so good, and I do
Speaker 1: saying that a lot lately. I know he looks real good.
Speaker 1: OPT text Jason and say you look good. Let's don't
Speaker 1: don't say it like that. That's crazy, and you get
Speaker 1: to say it looks good, don't spell it. G e
Speaker 1: W D gets weird. And I like Nikki. I think
Speaker 1: Nikki is cool. I think she gave Brandon a real
Speaker 1: SmackDown in that one scene where he was like just
Speaker 1: when he kind of went nuts and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna work and she's like sorry, yeahs is
Speaker 1: awesome those who love it. Well I did. I did
Speaker 1: have several uh takeaway quotes from this episode. But let's
Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back we'll get
Speaker 1: into that. Okay. So yeah, this episode I don't usually
Speaker 1: cling onto like the lines of the dialogue or anything.
Speaker 1: Usually tend to focus on the boom and the shot
Speaker 1: or like the camera seeing the camera shadow and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But there was so many lines in this episode. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go Okay. The first one that stood
Speaker 1: out to me was a bunch of ordinary kids living
Speaker 1: a world in a world that is extraordinary. I remember
Speaker 1: who said it, but it was in the beginning, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's basically the you know, the
Speaker 1: the one pair one sentence of our show was the show. Yeah, basically,
Speaker 1: So they just decided to write that in there. I
Speaker 1: guess you know. That was easy. Yes, it had backstory
Speaker 1: show like fake inside edition. They took it right off
Speaker 1: the i MD page there dB. I don't think they
Speaker 1: had that then. Okay, Now the way was from the internet,
Speaker 1: all right, right, forgot The other one was from Brenda Dad.
Speaker 1: If I can survive the smog in the air, pesticides
Speaker 1: in my food, and the crime on the streets, then
Speaker 1: I can surely manage a couple of lousy cigarettes. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, Brenda, go ahead. What is he supposed to
Speaker 1: say to that? The cigarette thing was so like really
Speaker 1: really annoying. Okay, wait, one more, one more, one more
Speaker 1: on the Mrs T how you be? That's what everyone? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then um Brandon says to you when he's giving
Speaker 1: him you his pearls of wisdom, he says, anything you
Speaker 1: can't do out in the open, isn't it worth doing? Random?
Speaker 1: Is such a goody two shoes. And so I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I love you can't do out in the open. You
Speaker 1: can do a lot out in the open, now, I
Speaker 1: just want to point out that's true. But still there's
Speaker 1: a lot you can do behind closed doors that are
Speaker 1: equally maybe more so fun. And my final one is
Speaker 1: from you as Steve Sanders, get out of my space,
Speaker 1: butt head, get out of my space. But head, you
Speaker 1: know that's uh, that was definitely scripted because butt head,
Speaker 1: butt head Beavis and butt head. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Is there a Steve Sanders line that,
Speaker 1: like people say to you in the airport all the time,
Speaker 1: is there like a line that stuck, you know, like
Speaker 1: I choose me for Jenny, I think she'll Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: there there's not one thing. There's so many. You know.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, learned from the master get the
Speaker 1: first base faster? Remember that from when Steve started is
Speaker 1: how to meet women. Course, I'm Steve Sanders, I have
Speaker 1: a PhD. And women just so many like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: has have been so much fun to write for your character.
Speaker 1: But you would think so, I didn't see many words
Speaker 1: on but uh but whatever, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I I'm just reading my notes and I hate b J. Harrison.
Speaker 1: I there's something I love about how I sort. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is what I wrote because he says
Speaker 1: to Steve turned up to be jerk to Steve, and
Speaker 1: I literally wrote my notes, why is this tool giving
Speaker 1: the key if he hates Steve, w T really get involved?
Speaker 1: Mean to Steve? I was like, get lost. B J. Harrison,
Speaker 1: who wrote this episode, I uh, let me go back.
Speaker 1: Written by Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, So this was
Speaker 1: our creator. It was a part of writing this one.
Speaker 1: Yea good episode with with weird after school special moment.
Speaker 1: It was it was written it was There was a
Speaker 1: lot of writing in this episode, like I felt like
Speaker 1: it was overwritten. I'm thinking that Darren probably did the
Speaker 1: smoking stuff, or Darren did that legacy stuff and Karen
Speaker 1: did the smoking stuff because she seems like much more
Speaker 1: motherly and yeah, like oh no, no, shame on you
Speaker 1: kind of. Yeah. I think she also, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think Karen Rosen also wrote the episode where cancer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it makes sense. I wonder if she wrote when
Speaker 1: you had when Brenda had the lump. Maybe she really
Speaker 1: likes a teaching moment, a teachable moment people. That'd be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what particular writers that we had on
Speaker 1: f put together all the episodes of what they wrote
Speaker 1: to see if there's any common theme. And I would
Speaker 1: say that there is a common thread in Karen Rosen's
Speaker 1: work about that that that's it, that there's a lesson
Speaker 1: to be learned. Yeah. She was always a very maternal presence,
Speaker 1: like very motherly and kind of wanted to help and
Speaker 1: very empathetic to everybody, So that would make sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: poor Andrea. They really make her look like a teacher.
Speaker 1: It's like it was she in this episode. She had
Speaker 1: two scenes. One she really looked teachery. She was like
Speaker 1: in a blazer and talking to Brandon, and then there
Speaker 1: was the Nikki scene where she's sort of like be
Speaker 1: nice to Nikki, like what's your problem to Brandon, And
Speaker 1: then there's that moment where um, Mrs Teasley or no,
Speaker 1: somebody's like Mrs TEUs like yeah, and then tell nobody
Speaker 1: running around like a crazy person to find Brenda to
Speaker 1: be like I told you so. I don't know he
Speaker 1: was real. He had a blue shirt in this one
Speaker 1: button down that I was just like, you look great,
Speaker 1: really great. You know, people watch the show for different reasons.
Speaker 1: Clearly I could see what yours is doing. I just
Speaker 1: got her takes me back every time. It's like, so
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a time travel. When I
Speaker 1: watch it, I'm just back in college in the TV room,
Speaker 1: all huddled up with my friends, Like it's it's really weird.
Speaker 1: Like last night when I watched it, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna watch ten minutes and then I'll do something
Speaker 1: else and then I'm just completely like I watched the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Wow, It's yeah, it's like a time travel.
Speaker 1: I've seen people comment on our pages and things that
Speaker 1: they don't think we really watched show. We do. We
Speaker 1: watched when it first aired. I didn't watch the show.
Speaker 1: I would see it once in a while, but we
Speaker 1: were usually busy working, you know we, I said, I
Speaker 1: mean like, I don't remember anything. But now watching it back,
Speaker 1: it's like the first time I've seen it because we
Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity to sit down and watch it.
Speaker 1: We're always working. I have the entire series in its
Speaker 1: original presentation with original music on a hard drive. WHOA,
Speaker 1: how did you get that? When did you get the
Speaker 1: legacy key to the to the producer's office? Right? I
Speaker 1: when we started going, when we went into syndication, I
Speaker 1: started to go to the nappy conventions where they would
Speaker 1: I wanted to learn the business of television syndication and
Speaker 1: I got to know all the guys that were selling
Speaker 1: our show. And as a thank you for me going
Speaker 1: down there, when the show ended, they gave me the
Speaker 1: entire Showy did they hand you a floppy disk? They were?
Speaker 1: They were VHS tapes that I had for it. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch those with my kids one day. I
Speaker 1: was gonna your kids have ever seen it? No, it's not.
Speaker 1: I think it's on what's it on now? Hulu? Where
Speaker 1: do you? Yeah? Amazon Prime? Is it on Amazon Prime?
Speaker 1: Every I guess maybe you could buy. There's weird missing episodes,
Speaker 1: totally weird, and I think it's music. There's probably right.
Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna see watch it like there's
Speaker 1: a great there's a great box set out there. I
Speaker 1: don't know where. A friend fan friend of ours sent it, Crystal,
Speaker 1: and it is all the episodes of the original show
Speaker 1: and the episodes of pH nine two and oh all
Speaker 1: on DVD. Oh that's great. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's out there, just hard to find. I think
Speaker 1: I think you might know some people you could pike
Speaker 1: your hands on it. You got a feeling I know
Speaker 1: a few you specifically, Steve looked good in that gray
Speaker 1: shirt in this episode, just saying what about my fashion?
Speaker 1: Your jeans were actually really good the whole episode. Um,
Speaker 1: and you the shirts are fine. It is the way
Speaker 1: too buttoned up high. It's not the shirt, it's just
Speaker 1: the button. And it's sometimes it's the shirt because this
Speaker 1: checkered like a picnic blanket on your pot and they
Speaker 1: switched you to like a or you did apparently I
Speaker 1: thought you had a wardrobe person. But now I'm learning
Speaker 1: you liked shorty short shorts, but you have like just
Speaker 1: like a gray long sleeved t shirt. It might have
Speaker 1: had a bit of a mock turtleneck, which I wasn't
Speaker 1: as into. But you looked good, looked good. If you
Speaker 1: have legs like iron searings, legs, you show them off.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you you got some damns. Look at
Speaker 1: him who you can still stretch and bend even that
Speaker 1: you're doing good? What's happening? I can't, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: oh my god, take it off? What's happening? Look at
Speaker 1: your physique, my friend? No, you look better. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be a weirdo, but you look better now
Speaker 1: to an indocioing like a fine one. This is this
Speaker 1: is this is on radio. Right, we have Instagram. You
Speaker 1: are shameless. He knows he looks sex. I know you
Speaker 1: look good. You look good. I can't. I gotta go.
Speaker 1: You guys, how do you do that? Do you go
Speaker 1: to the gym? How do you do do you work
Speaker 1: out five days a week? Seventy? How? What's your regime? Yes?
Speaker 1: What is your regime? I intermittent fast, just like I'm
Speaker 1: shirt on backwards I'm so sorry. You can look Amy,
Speaker 1: he's putting his clothes back on. It's fine. You're a
Speaker 1: total babe. I'm just gonna say, you're complete babe. I
Speaker 1: gotta go. What happened to you chips? Yep? He I
Speaker 1: don't think Amy got to see that. Oh yes, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I wish I went to that one. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we interviewed you for that. But yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: very handsome. I'm gonna act normal now, normal normal. You're
Speaker 1: beautiful to Amy. Is there anything else to talk about
Speaker 1: for this episode? Amy got the best day in my life.
Speaker 1: Just the fashion and we talked about it. Well, Nikki
Speaker 1: and vests, vests on women. I mean there was four
Speaker 1: different vests on. Oh. I liked when Kelly had that
Speaker 1: one dress on with like the t back yep. And
Speaker 1: Tori had some great looks in this episode, two of
Speaker 1: which I loved. And then is just funky and it's
Speaker 1: super cool. Yeah, she's so different than anybody else on
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah. We had several wardrobe designers over the
Speaker 1: course of the show, and I think I think the focus,
Speaker 1: you know, really, they put a lot more effort into
Speaker 1: the women's clothes. Definitely, they did you know, because guys
Speaker 1: were wearing jeans and shirts and it was like an
Speaker 1: also Ran kind of situation where the focus was on
Speaker 1: the women's clothes and they were beautiful, uh you know,
Speaker 1: from Sundress and Doc Martin's to you know, whenever they
Speaker 1: got dressed up, the women always looked gorgeous. And the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon, never wore anything that was special. They
Speaker 1: just sim in blue with those eyes. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they like those muscles. They like, all y'alls are muscles
Speaker 1: for sure. You know David Silver, he his clothing was
Speaker 1: out there kind of as well. You know, Steve's a
Speaker 1: lot of Steve stuff. What they would give me the
Speaker 1: shoes from was a bit outlandish, um and yeah, but
Speaker 1: the women always like had beautiful shoes, beautiful clothes. You know,
Speaker 1: they give us sneakers to wear or whatever, and it
Speaker 1: really you know, it's come back to buy me. But
Speaker 1: it's such an important part of the show, like I like,
Speaker 1: it really is. The fashion is a character of itself.
Speaker 1: And they would give me silk shirts to wear, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we cut the sleeves off? This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They were like puffy balloon sleeves. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of this clothes at the end of the year. The um,
Speaker 1: you have clothes, see Sanders clothes. I do. Yeah, Where
Speaker 1: where are they right now? Are they closet in my closet?
Speaker 1: Right now? I've got I've got a green silk shirt,
Speaker 1: sleeveless show shirt that they that they tailored for me,
Speaker 1: a purple shirt that I've worn. I gave Darren Martin
Speaker 1: one of my shirts. You know, several ties. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you are so You're always so smart to take stuff.
Speaker 1: You always are, like, I'll be putting this in my
Speaker 1: car and take it. You know. I've got several shoes
Speaker 1: and I still wear I mean, they bought me product
Speaker 1: shoes that like, are so well made, beautiful black. You
Speaker 1: know those shoes are thirty five years old. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: but like a man's dress, shoe hasn't really changed in
Speaker 1: thirty five years. It's not too gorgeous. Vintage now, great,
Speaker 1: I wore vintage shoes the other day. But that's cool.
Speaker 1: That's what you want, that's leg I want to see
Speaker 1: those shoes next time I see you. You best be
Speaker 1: wearing those shoes. Vintage O G Yes, good, so good.
Speaker 1: I love you both so much. It's weird. It's just
Speaker 1: we love having you on the show meantime, but today
Speaker 1: in particular. Thank you for stepping in and filling in
Speaker 1: for pleasure Tour and just so nice to Every time
Speaker 1: I see you makes me happy. It makes my day better.
Speaker 1: Same here for you both. Actually it's nice. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: are the sweetest person on the planet. Like you are
Speaker 1: the best. I am. Thanks. It's nice to you to say,
Speaker 1: regardless of how true it is. It's all true. It's
Speaker 1: all true. Okay, everybody. Next week's episode is episode nine,
Speaker 1: season three, high Wire, So let's all watch it so
Speaker 1: we can talk about it. All right, everybody, have a
Speaker 1: great week. By everybody. Bye, So good I thank you
Speaker 1: are the best. Thank you for letting indulge me in
Speaker 1: my my flirting. It's so funny. She does love you, Okay,
Speaker 1: for reals, it's guys are so nice. Ouch, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be the nice guy first, we don't think
Speaker 1: I can go back and watch the Zoom again where
Speaker 1: the shirt came off. I'm gonna watch that. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: This week we're gonna get a lot of downloads. Hey, Randy,
Speaker 1: I'm good height at the end of this month, dude, Randy.
Speaker 1: We know we tried to not act crazy. We know
Speaker 1: it's insane. I'm trying so hard to be professional. Just really,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's great to hear your voice, Randy. Thanks
Speaker 1: my pleasure anytime. Great, thanks for including me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys soon. Everybody, did you like that?
Speaker 1: Like I did, I seem I tried so hard to
Speaker 1: seem normal. You're still a little flushed. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: First of all, I tried to seem normal. He's so sweet.
Speaker 1: He's so so so sweet, he's so charismatic. But you
Speaker 1: guys like he took his shirt off and I literally
Speaker 1: could not act normal. I had to because I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't function, I can't do I can't
Speaker 1: do this at me, I was like, let me see
Speaker 1: show show me. I covered my face with my notepad.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't look. I'm gonna act so weird.
Speaker 1: I literally just was, and that wasn't weird. Norm He's
Speaker 1: so funny and cool. That's why I's so Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was so Somebody so sweet sent a message that
Speaker 1: was like, I don't have any questions. I'm just so
Speaker 1: happy for Amy. I love that person, and so I
Speaker 1: hope everyone loved it as much as we did. Pitching
Speaker 1: up with him have to like fan myself. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. He's adorable, good guy,