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You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: we go. Yes, Yes, this is Rashan mcgonald and welcome 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: officially to money Making Conversation. I am your host. It's 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: time for my first guest of this. He's on the line, 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: old friend. I'm gonna call him Old Frank because we 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: have done some motivation together with some young people and 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: he's been at the forefront a mot motivating young people. 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's really key because catching a seed early, 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, you see a plank row. That's when you 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: really nurture, you get the right amount of water, you 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: get right around about the sunshine. That's what he does. 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: My next guest is one of the top educators. He's 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: a top motivational speaker and now a daytime TV host. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: New show called Breakthrough with Dr Perry a new daytime 43 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: syndication talk show from CBS Television Distribution starring my man, 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: Dr Steve Perry and respected educating and advocate best known 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: for creating educational opportunities for children. Please welcome to money 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: Making Conversations, Dr Steve Perry, My main man. How are you? Damn? 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: How you mad? It's why to talk to you? Both 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: sweat and burning up? Like living comfortably? Oh man? First 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: of all, I saw the promo. I didn't even know 50 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: about the show, Okay, and so I'm watching I'm watching television. 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I just see that's Dr st I just went, Steve, 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I need to do the doctor. You know, when you 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: see people and you buy yourself and your home, you 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: want to go by myself. Who am I to confirm 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: this with? Right? Right? Right? Congratulations man? Because I know 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: how long we've talked about people are different networks? Have 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: have have sat down what you said? You had the talent, said, 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: you have the ability, said they want to put you 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: in the position to do what you're doing. Now, tell 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: us about their journey, and then we're gonna go back 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: to our history together to let everybody know this is 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: not an individual who just got a shot. You've nurtured 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: this through your your craft, through your education, through your 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: hard work. But tell us, how did this show, T 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: talk show come about? Well, it's CBS reached out. Um, 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: they asked me if if I want to do a 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: TV show? And I didn't. I thought they said CBS. 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was the drug store. I said nice 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: and no CBS. Oh wow, yeah, that sounds cool. So 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and it began as a really as a as an 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: idea of a trio of a of a show. And 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: there was a bunch of people on the show doing 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: a format similar to what you've seen, but there were 74 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: men and women, Me and two other uh, me and 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: two women and uh went out there and they decided 76 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: that they just want to do the show just me, 77 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: and so Fox said they want to give it a shot. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: Fox put us up there for ten days and now 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: we're in waiting phase of the game to find out 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: if Fox wants to move forward or if they want 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: to keep doing what they've been doing. You talked about 82 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: gossip all day, right, right, So I didn't sit down 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: with an EP did you have that? Were you involved 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: in the selection process of EP the storyline? So I 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: wasn't involved with the selection of the stories, but I 86 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: was involved with the framing of the narrative. Um. They 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: gave me quite a bit of latitude in terms of 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: discussing what I wanted to discuss and approaching that the 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: problems from the perspective that I have. So they were 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: very very open to that, which was cool. Um. And 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: what was funny was after the first day of shooting. Um, 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: midway through it, I should say, they just cut the 93 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: telepomped off and said he ain't reading anyway, We just 94 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: wasted our man's not reading anything that we've written up it. 95 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: So with the person who doing telepping go home now, Yeah, 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: it was cool. It was cool. Well, because that's great 97 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: because you're doing it from your point of view. And 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: so I always tell people that a lot of people 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: in television who have really got a lot of great resumes. 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: To produce talent, you have to let the talent win. 101 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: That's how you get long term success. If you're not, 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm proud you did that because of the fact that 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: you have to rely on your natural instincts. That way, Steve, 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: you lose, you know why you you You did it 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: your way, You did it from your point and that's 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: and that's what it is. You know, when lose a draw, 107 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: it's like you know, you you meet a girl and 108 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: she decides she wants to go in a different direction, 109 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: and you see with this dude and he's a clown, 110 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: and you think, yep, even if she didn't choose me, 111 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: what she chose is so vastly different than me that 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't even aspire to be that. I'm comfortable with 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: her going with him and not me. The same thing 114 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: is true with this TV stuff. If they go with us, dope, 115 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: if they don't, dope. I have a job. It's a 116 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: good job. I get to work with children every single day. 117 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm in our in our school in Harlem right now, 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: and you know, discussing things that matter, like where what 119 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: building we're gonna be in school, and the box and 120 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: taking a look at. Before I came in the office, 121 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: I was next door because we have a sub in 122 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: there and apparently substilled means the same thing at always means, 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: which is, who is your damn mind when you're in class? 124 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: A kiden up some folks next door. So if I 125 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: have to pause a conversation because I really do have 126 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: a job where I really do still work with kids, 127 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: as you know as well about it. Just a little 128 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: short history on Dr Steven Perry and I, um, you 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: know it goes back to Steve Harvey in our relationship 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: when I was a manager Steve and running the UH 131 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: all the charitable arms of the Steve as well as 132 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: the Morning Show. Whenever we had an education issue, the 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: number one I'm one person I put on the phone 134 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: was Dr Steve Perry. You know now I always appreciate that, brother, 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: and it's in this you know, You've always been cool 136 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: to me and you've always been the same to me, 137 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: and I think what is most important in life. Recently 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: had something very very close to me and uncle mind 139 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: passed away. What um, what I've learned, what his passing 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: is confirmed, is that what we're really doing, Sean, is 141 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: we are populating our funeral. Meaning the way you live 142 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: is the way you're gonna go out right and people 143 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: will remember you as you were. You can't. You can 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: only right so much of the narrative until at one 145 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: point the truth makes this way out. And as far 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: as you and I go, you've been cool made and 147 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: and have always talked about you in particular specifically talked 148 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: about me needing to the your daytime TV afolutely. And 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: that's the key to what I was just saying, is 150 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of people put like you said, I want, 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: I want, I want kind of you start totally pall, 152 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: no want to they exceeded. I will, and guess what 153 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you lose because I will have to be the I 154 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: will do this. I will get up early, I will 155 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: sacrifice for my family, I will sacrifice for the for 156 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: the my social life. I will sacrifice and sometimes in 157 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: the relationship if they but you need to explain to 158 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: them what while the sacrifice is being made. I will 159 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: sacrifice for not living a lifestyle that that I could 160 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: live if I do that. And that's really the key. 161 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: When you know, the most positive thing that I've seen 162 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: is that you you managed to live a balanced life. 163 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Because I've met his family, amazing wife, amazing boys, and 164 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm headed now in my life. You know, 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: when I stop managing Steve. That was one of the 166 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: goals I wanted in my life. Steve was balanced because 167 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I was just on that wheel, just running, run and 168 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: run and running, just just closing deals, closing deal but 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: never relaxed and never understanding the value that I could stop. 170 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: But you've always maintained that tell us the key. How 171 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: have you been able to maintain a balanced life in 172 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: your path of success? So to be honest with you, 173 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's such a thing as balanced. 174 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: There's alignment. And you'll understand what I mean. When you're 175 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: rocking with in their case of a beautiful wife and 176 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: children who need you to not be part of your dream, 177 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you will never achieve alignment. Your wife had to understand 178 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: that my job is to be on the road. That 179 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: my job, but more importantly, it's my calling. So if 180 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: you need me home, there's no way to balance that. 181 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: I can't be home and be out at the same time. 182 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: So what I what I seek to do is to 183 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: be honest with myself and those around me. It's so 184 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: funny you say this, brother, So I was just saying 185 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: to my side this morning, as you know, they go 186 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: to Uh, it's really so trippy. Um we're riding in 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: the school today and um, I said to them, nobody 188 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,119 Speaker 1: has given more for these schools than you have. Nobody. 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: They've been nice that you wanted me home to tell 190 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: me something, to share a story that you have from school, 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: or just show me a picture of something that you drew, 192 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: or or just to sit and watch television with me. 193 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: And I was not home and I can't from us. 194 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be home for a little while. But you 195 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: too have given so much that my hope is that 196 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: you see it as your legacy, not that you come 197 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and take over the schools, which would be dope, right 198 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: what father doesn't want that to happen, But more important 199 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: that you build upon it and whatever you do in life, 200 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: that people see that you've got to leg up because 201 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: you were part of something that you paid for even 202 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: before you knew you were packed. So for me, brother Sean, 203 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: what I think is important is to be honest with 204 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: those people in our lives about what it is that 205 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: our calling is and then that help them help them 206 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: to understand what they were doing. Also, I have to 207 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: be real, brother that I've been working with a long time. 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: As you know, brother USI ta has said to me, 209 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm so funny we're having this conversation. So one of 210 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: the reasons why I did so, you know, you talked 211 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: about the Disney Dreamers Academy. The reason I did it initially, Rashan, 212 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: is because you have said, Bro, you out here running 213 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: across the country. Your kids all they see is that 214 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: you're gone. They don't know because it is before the 215 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: TV stuff, you know, when you when you are doing 216 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: small gigs at home, just no, you're gone, and in 217 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: their minds, glamorous right in their mind and then mind 218 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: you know you had in my case, I might you 219 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: would be at a small club of bar. I'll be 220 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: at a small college with fifteen students, you know what 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, fifteen students in Iowa. In their minds, it's 222 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: it's dad is going off and he's flying and doing 223 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: and he's being treated. No, I am flying the worst class, 224 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: not first class. I am landing wherever, and I am 225 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: driving in whatever to get and talk to whoever. But 226 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: they don't know that, right. So he said to me, 227 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you have said you need to allow your children to 228 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: be part of some of this, and your wife too, 229 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: because it wasn't always that way. Brother in the beginning 230 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: and my cousins you say in the first beginning. In 231 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: the beginning, I was off doing the travel and all 232 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: that stuff, and I didn't tell my wife anything. I 233 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't talk to about it, and and um and much 234 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: in spite if I'm being really real, because I thought 235 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: if she wanted to know, she'd be asking, and says 236 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: she wasn't asking. I didn't have anything to say. Hey, Doc, 237 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: this rashan. We gotta go now. I know we're back 238 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: in touch. You see my platform. Can you come back 239 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: on my show next month anytime you need to? Okay, 240 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: thank you, Dr Steve Erry. Money making conversation. 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I was born in Texas 267 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: and it's uh and as a prod graduate of Prayer 268 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: of Prayer of You in Them, which is right down 269 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: the street from Houston, Texas. Now this is where it 270 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: goes a little different. He's a proud member, lifetime member 271 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: of Cap Appleside. I'm omega sci Fi members. See, that's 272 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: the only thing in this intro that goes a little 273 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: bit different, but that thing that's great. Honorably discharged Vietnam 274 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: War veteran where he served in the medical unit. He's 275 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: a retired executive from MERK where he later national team 276 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: in medical design and installed Merk's Military Miracle branches at 277 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: the retire he found it, which is very special. The 278 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo Soldiers National Resilium based in Houston, Texas. Please welcome 279 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: to money making Conversations, Captain Paul Matthews. How you're doing, Yes, sir, 280 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: how are you doing outstanding? Now? Are you in Houston 281 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Exactly at home in Siland, Texas outside 282 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: of Houston. Cool. Well, let's talk. Let's talk about that. 283 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: You're a little bit uh. You know, your life has 284 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: a body of work tied to it as a as 285 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: a person with a college, college, lifestyle, professional lifestyle, military. 286 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: When you when you encompass all that together, Captain, what 287 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: what stands out the most when you when you when 288 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: people ask you to speak. What do you tell people 289 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: when you when you're motivating them and when you're giving 290 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: them nuggets of information about being successful? What do you 291 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: talk about? Well, I talk about, you know, having specific goals, 292 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: direction and and leaving a place like Purview, being a 293 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: uh to second lieutenant the United States Army and going 294 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: on to a successful career in the pharmaceutical industry, and 295 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: then being able to collect artifacts, documents, memorabilia from thirty 296 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: years of of traveling around the country and starting a 297 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: museum and now those other kinds of things that I thought, 298 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, make it all worth while. So that you know, 299 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: we as African Americans have controlled the history narrative. I 300 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: think that's the key to the future is being able 301 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to just demonstrate, you know, your history. Right. So when 302 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you talk about the Buffalo Soldiers National Museum, of course, 303 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: you know many years ago Bob Marveley in an amazingly 304 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: popular song called Buffalo right, and yeah, yes, sir, Yeah. 305 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: The museum actually opened January fifth of two thousand wounds. 306 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: And we focus on in feature the Buffalo Soldiers, but 307 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: in actuality we give a perspective on the African American 308 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: military experience from seven to seventy to two thousand are 309 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: from the Revolutionary War to the Persian Gup War. If 310 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: you talk about personalities from Frescatics, the Cold and fouls 311 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: and our miss our mission is to preserve, promote and 312 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: perpetuated the honor and legacy of the brave men and 313 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: women who fought, fled, and died in defense of America. Okay, cool, 314 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: Now they used the Buffalo Soldiers National Museum. Who are 315 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Soldiers? Yeah? The Buffalo Soldiers were the peace 316 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: keepers in the American with Uh. They bill camps, sports, railroads, 317 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: delivered the mills, strung telegraph wise, charted the land, chased 318 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: down outlaws, common saros of Mexican revolutionaries. As a matter 319 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: of fact, without the Buffalo Soldiers, the Restwood movements would 320 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: have been delayed, you know, fifty years. And just to 321 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: put it in context, Uh, at the end of the 322 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Civil War, the Harmy reorganized and established four segregated units 323 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: that were African Americans, the ninth and tenth Cavalry and 324 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: the twenty four and twenty five Infantry, And those four 325 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: segregated units went on to become what we commonly call 326 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: now the Buffalo Soldiers. Okay, why why Buffalo Soldiers? Why 327 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: did that name become part of you know? Yeah, that's 328 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: the mystery. Now, I gotta I gotta drift down on 329 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: that now you know that's a good that exactly. The 330 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: number one question that we yet is that how did 331 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Soldiers get their names? And they came from 332 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: the Shihenne warriors. They saw two things and the soldiers 333 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: that they saw in the buffalo it was a naturally 334 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: curly hair and that Ferocian's fighting spirit, and they put 335 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: those two things together and they came up with wild 336 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo in the turn, while buffalo eventually became Buffalo Soldiers. Wow, 337 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: so you said, like, I think that's earlier in your conversation, 338 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: you said, over thirty years you've been collecting. What have 339 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: you been collecting? Oh, we have all types of unique artifacts, documents, memorabilia. 340 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: Is uh some of these The one of the kind 341 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: items you see at the museum is that a letter 342 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: from a Korean War veteran and African American who was 343 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth Infantry Regiment and he was in Korea 344 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: and he wrote a letter back to his mom who 345 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: lives in brown Wood, Texas. And he opened up by 346 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: saying things are quiet here, I hope things are quiet 347 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: at home. And then he said, we heard today that 348 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: our unit was going to be integrated. Now that's a 349 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: very powerful letter because this is nineteen fifty one and 350 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: here you have a black man in Korea fighting for 351 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: the liberation of Koreans and I'm segregated on him. So 352 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: that's a very powerful historical perspective to look at, and 353 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: also how he reacted and how it was like, uh, 354 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: I guess uh, you know, I have to say it's 355 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: a big deal because nobody won't. Because when you're separate, 356 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: that that that that applies that there's something wrong, there 357 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: is something that you know, there's something different about you 358 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: that can't be. It can't be unless they say associated 359 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: or assimilated with everybody else. And that's what people that's 360 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: what people don't understand about racism, about discrimination, about segregation, 361 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: is that is that whenever you're not just black, why 362 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: anting whether it's cash structure, based on finances or whatever. 363 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: You know, when you tell when you won't let everybody 364 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: participate or have the same opportunities to win, then that 365 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: there's a there's a designation that there's something wrong with 366 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: you that you should not have that opportunity. In the military, 367 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: when you're out there fighting, laying your life on the 368 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: line for the same cause, that even that should be 369 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: even more mind boggling correct. Oh yeah, yeah, And and 370 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: you know that's that's a very good point. Even though 371 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: they had the same times of the equipment and arms 372 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: and all of that. You know, the army is basically 373 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: a micro caused in love America. And so but I 374 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: should say that the military was on the rang or 375 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: of the modern bay civil rights movement. So that's important 376 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: to note, you know, as a matter of fact, when 377 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: you when you go back back to her favorite duckness, 378 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: and he made a very important point at the start 379 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: of the Civil War. He said, give the was man 380 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: a uniform, a buckle with the US on it, a 381 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: button with an eel on it, and a musket, and 382 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: you're making a citizen. But you're also making amend. That's 383 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is make sure the Civil 384 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: War was being fort for freedom and not just to 385 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: save the Union. And the only way you can do 386 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: that yet for the black man and the blue uniform. 387 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: And that same message carrot over to World War One 388 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: when du Bois said in the famous Crisis Magazine article 389 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: at the starting of World War One, he said, put 390 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: aside your differences, goal with these come back the first 391 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: class citizens. And in World War two, the same messages 392 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: came along as SI was called a double D for victory, 393 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: victory against actors in Europe and victory against racism at home. 394 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: You know. So those were now at the end of 395 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: World War Two. The soldiers that came back, you know, 396 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: were the individuals that supplied the funds, you know that 397 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: helped to move forward the modern civil rights movement. Well, 398 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: you know something by something that's that's called good thing. 399 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I get to go, I got got got that, I 400 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: got the purse, get to what is that? What is 401 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: the most? What's most are the fast story, misstory, part 402 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: of fact, the US to the museum. That's that's very last. 403 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: You know, lax child is the best child is the belt? 404 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: You don't can't you do that? You do that? Don't 405 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: you do that? But we but we had bron Bronze 406 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: above Buffalo, Buffalo so the old cold, the old so 407 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: and it was done by Ediding, done by eddiething and 408 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: really when four of them before we live and what 409 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: we knew and there was one would getting on getting 410 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: on new meatles especially going and special ability. What are 411 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: you thinking in fact, what are you thinking? Abou bron 412 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: a Buffalo So Buffalo called the old, called the old soldier, 413 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: and I showed him a picture and showed him a picture. 414 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Was one of the read one of his reading kids 415 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: living word kids three years who jewelry isn't enjoy and 416 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what I'm not sure what three or 417 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: three is? And look at this and Mons nine months later, 418 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: nine months later, nine later, got in pairs. They had 419 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: a bronze they had at brons but of a buffalo, 420 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: so buffalo they will donate when you donate to the 421 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: museum that bronze buck brons Bus was the old sold 422 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: the old. So yeah, that's a testimony. Then, now that's 423 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: a very unfestive that we piece every end that we 424 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: we went and gay for actually for actually and and 425 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: nine months later, nine months later get it as they 426 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: don't get it as a donation. I don't know, don't 427 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: a special special that's right, well, that's right, amazing thing 428 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: about amazing thing about you know you I've been, I've been. 429 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of operate, a lot of 430 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: news in New York's a kid nazi, kid nazi. They 431 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: take you to museum and so are you on that 432 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: are you and that that like you owned that like 433 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: high school high less or or less or less less 434 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: people find out about find out about your museum, your museum. Yeah, 435 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: we yeah, we have connected with combus of visitors, gerald visitors. 436 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: We have we have the multi the mus excess, word 437 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: of mouth, word of mouth, all of the they have 438 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: and we averaged and that we're part of that. We 439 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: belong to below. MRSTRC Association and American Museum Museum Association, 440 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: manim anervation of museum. You know, well, you know and 441 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: all of those entities. It's really good. What's really good. 442 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: I'm talking to all math captains. Paul Matthews, he's the 443 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: founder the Buffets, Founder National National twelve Locating Museum, Houston, teas. 444 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: The mission of the Buffet missionating and public educating public, 445 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: promote the bserve, promote and perpetuate history, the tradition and 446 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: outstanding And I was sharing contributing America's buffalos, so just 447 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: war war to the amazing thing about it, amazing thing 448 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: about it. And when I learned so much, I learned 449 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: so much want to go back. 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He's a two time 492 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: Emmy Award winner, three time n double A c P 493 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Image Award winner, sitcom writer stand up comic, former IBM executive, 494 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: and has a degree of mathematics. More importantly, Rashan McDonald 495 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: will use his business and celebrity relationships to empower small 496 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: businesses with information to succeed. My next guest has developed 497 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: a top line of my hands handmade men's grooming product 498 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: called Scotch Porter. A. Scotch Porter Live includes beard products. 499 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Even know I got a beard, so you know I'm 500 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: loving that face hair. Body got face hair of the 501 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: body got that, so I'm still loving him, shave and accessories. 502 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: He started the country company from his kitchen, which is 503 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: why we have them on this show. See a lot 504 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: of ideas, people, I need to start my business around 505 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: the corner I needed, I needed, I need to give 506 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: me alane. This man started his business from his kitchen 507 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: by experimenting with botanicals and other greenies that have not 508 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: been clinically shown to be toxic or corstinogenic. Please welcome 509 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation, Calvin Kalas, thanks f having me, 510 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: My man, appreciate being here. Okay, first of all, you're 511 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: a barbershop guy, right, that's your background, right, Yeah, so 512 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I owned the barbershop. It's it's my background, and my 513 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: mom also owned the beauty problem in barbershop when I 514 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: was a kid. So that means you can talk. Yes, 515 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: you talk, you're talking. You've been you've been. You've been 516 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: talking North for a long time. How long were you 517 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: are the barbershop business, sir? Um? So, I actually owned 518 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: the barbershop for just three years. But again, I grew 519 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: up in the barbershop my as a kid, my mom 520 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: forced my brother and I to pretty much spent every 521 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: weeknight and weekend at the barbershop. So I've spent some 522 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: years in the barbershop. So where are you based at 523 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: in New Jersey? And hes star in New Jersey? Oh? 524 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: He big talk? Oh my god? All that sports up there? Man? 525 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: What's what's what? What's you get? Before we getting into 526 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: the interview? What's sports team? Did you? Did you pull 527 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: it for? Up there? What sports team? Um? I mean, 528 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: since I was a kid, Patriots has always been my mind. 529 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Your Jersey boy, your Jersey boy. I'm a Jersey boy. 530 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: I was born in Brooklyn. But but yeah, a Jersey boy. 531 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: You just gift all over the Giants, gift all over 532 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: the Jets, and when well done to the Patriots, I know, 533 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: well they'll be giving you, they be giving you a 534 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: hard time. You look, you're not in the barbershop business 535 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: no more. Boy, you mayfy ride you and you can 536 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: just be smiling too. Yeah. Uh wow, that's awesome. So, 537 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: so tell us your background to make you to be 538 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: become an entrepreneur. Like you said, you your mom brought 539 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: you up into business, you and your brother. You know, 540 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: so you had a clear understanding of what that lifestyle was. 541 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Was that income, the income possibilities of what you can generate, 542 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, to take care of your family, because we 543 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: all have bigger aspirations than what your family presents to you. 544 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: How did you get in the barber business? And then 545 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: how did you start developing this product line? Absolutely so? 546 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Um so. I mean I recalled being uh broken and 547 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: frustrated college to it, and I wasn't quite sure what 548 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to do with my life. Um. But I 549 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: do recall, you know, every other Friday, I take the 550 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: last twenty dollars that I had in my pocket and 551 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: I'd go get it cut and I leave the barbershop 552 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: feeling like I literally could take on the world. Um. 553 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: And I also remember my time from my mom's barbershop. Um. 554 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: You know. So so these experiences, you know, I've witnessed 555 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: firsthand how grooming had the potential to help people feel 556 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: better about themselves. UM. And so with these unique experiences, 557 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: specifically only my own barbershop, and noticing an issue that 558 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: the customers had UM in our shop, uh, predominantly African 559 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: American and Hispanic men very dry frizzey damage here and 560 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: beards um always a pretty good problem solver went home, 561 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: Uh board with the daytime job. So let me back 562 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: up and say, um, let me back up and say 563 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: that the first job that I had out of college 564 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: was at a global design firm UM, and I hate 565 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: it it. UM. Then I moved on to working and 566 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: find into the market research firm, and I hated that 567 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: even more. It was something about, you know, spending the 568 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: rest of my life behind an office cubic who felt 569 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: like a death sentence UM. And I felt a little 570 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: so crushing each and every day. And somehow I knew 571 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be doing something more. UM. 572 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: So when I had the opportunity opened up the barbershop 573 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: and spotted an issue. UM. And because I was bored 574 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: with the daytime job, UM, I became very passionate about 575 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: solving this issue that our customers had. And so every 576 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: UH weeknight and on the weekend, I'd be home learning 577 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: everything that I could about skinning here and and crafting up, 578 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: crafting products and bringing back to the shops UM to 579 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: hand off to the barbers and customers to get feedback. UM. 580 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: So that's how it all started. UM ended up, you know, 581 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: really creating a set of products that the customers love, 582 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,239 Speaker 1: UM love so much that word spread and folks were 583 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: coming from New York in Connecticut to a little New 584 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: jer the barbershop purchasing products UM. And out of necessity, 585 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: we had launched UH dot com to make it easier 586 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: for those folks to get products UM. And you know, 587 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: six months into launching the business in the shop and online, 588 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: UH from the kitchen of my home has did a 589 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: million dollars in sales. UM ended up quitting the daytime job, 590 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: and UH did up also closed in the barbershop because 591 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: at that time I felt a little scatter brain UM 592 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: in that I had full time job is making products 593 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: UM every moment that I had, and I owned the barbershops. 594 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: So I ended up closing the barbershop and UM quitting 595 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: the job and focusing on Scotch quarter um, and you know, 596 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: it proved to be a really great idea. UM. And 597 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: in the three short years that we've been in business, 598 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: we've we've sold over four hundred thousand units in eighty 599 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: seven countries. Let's let's keep talking about that. Sure, how 600 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: did you come over with the name? Really cool? Um, 601 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: it's the culmination of the things I love. So I 602 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: love Scotch. I'm a Scotch drinker. And uh, Gregor Reporter 603 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: is a jazz musician that has an incredible voice. And 604 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: if your listeners aren't aware of who Gregor reporters, they 605 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: should should get into. Um. So, yeah, the culmination of 606 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: of the things I love. Let's talk about the launching 607 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: this business because online has been like you on Amazon 608 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and you can go to your website, so just the 609 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: whole that. Also, you're in Walmart? Correct? We are not 610 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: in No, we are not in Walmart. Okay, cool? So 611 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: but you're just online correct right now? I mean eighty 612 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: percent of our businesses is online Scotch Reporter dot com. 613 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: Like you said, we're selling we sell on Amazon and 614 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: that about a hundred and forty small boutiques and high 615 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: end barbershops across the country because you have two things 616 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: that you have the moisturizing and then you have the conditioner. Okay, yeah, 617 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: what's the difference. UM, So we have both in our 618 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: in our product. UM, nothing can nothing can moisturize the 619 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: beard other than water. Water is the only thing that 620 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: can really truly moisturize a beer. UM. There are what 621 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: they call emollients UM that can help give the illusion 622 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: of softness. UM. But nothing can truly moisturize a beard 623 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: UM other than water. But there are some conditioning agents 624 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: in in our products as well. UM. So it does 625 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: help with moisturizing and conditioning the beard. UM. Conditioning the 626 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: beard is UM. Conditioning the beard helps with like making 627 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: the beard feel softer, more manageable, so it's easier to 628 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: comb UM and again moisturize moisturization is is basically UM. 629 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: You can only get that through water. So including water 630 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: in your products. I'm I'm looking at a website, uh, 631 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's really nice, it's really clean, it's 632 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: really uh you know, you know, if you know, like 633 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: I said, you can get a gift card on it 634 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: for seventy five dollars. So this is really good to know. 635 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: If you don't know, you know, young man with a beard, 636 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: or your father, Father's Day coming up, Okay, Valentine Day 637 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: coming up. I'm telling I'm the other. If your man 638 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: gotta beer, get him a nice little seventy five dollar 639 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: gift card. Just go to Scotch Porter dot com and 640 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: you can and you can go online and get him 641 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: some conditioning, get him a nice little brush, give him 642 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: some wash. I'm telling you that movie. And we have 643 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: some Valentine Day bundles on this bag right now, and 644 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: that's like a forty five dollar party point. Yeah, I'm 645 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: already with you, brother, I'm already with you on the Valentine. 646 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: They still always say that we get to sevent file. 647 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: I stared at the seventy five because you don't get 648 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: him a nice little seventy five dollar gifts gift certificate. 649 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: Hit and get you. Now, this is a really great guy. 650 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: Here's the deal is that I know you had something. 651 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: It's for this is shave here, Okay, cool. Now, I'm 652 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: a guy. I can only use electric you know, because 653 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: if I use a razor, by face just blows up ugly. Okay, 654 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: So what what do you what do you have the 655 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: help of person I like me because I see sensitive 656 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: skin pre shave all is that something that I can 657 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: use or or or this is strictly for people who 658 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: use razors. Yeah, I mean some folks have used uh, 659 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: some folks. Most folks are using our shave crane to 660 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: be honest with your shape cream and appreciap oil with 661 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: a razor. Um. And you know the whole point of 662 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: our shaving care line is is meant for folks with 663 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: sensitive skin. Um. So most shaving creams have contained surfactants 664 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: and sulf fates in it. Hours happened to be um 665 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: sulfate free, so free uh, fragrance free um and it 666 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: it really does provide like this nice smooth shave without 667 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: the rite ship right. And I think most folks um 668 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: specifically Meta color, choose to use an electric uh an 669 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: electric shaver versus the race because of irritation and bumps. 670 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely these products are the answer to that where 671 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: you can still get that close shave with a razor 672 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: minus the irritation and bumps. He he is signature candles. 673 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: This man over here, you're doing it. I got the 674 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: little kid here, just the dope kid. You're just doing 675 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: and that the only thing that I want you to 676 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: add is uh, because I used the shave cream that 677 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: just putting it right? Yeah, are you thinking about adding that? 678 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: Because man, I give you my money left and right 679 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: for that. Shave a set of shaved cream for your 680 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: boat for ball heads. But do you have that? This 681 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: is perfect for that. I mean a lot of folks, um, 682 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot of even our beer customers used are shaved 683 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: cream for their head. Okay, okay, yea you you. First 684 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: of all, I want to I want to bring you back, 685 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, just to the first of all established the relationship. 686 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: That's what I always do with these calls. But secondly, 687 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: I need a couple of banners so I can promote 688 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: you because especially with Valentine's Day coming up, I like 689 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: to promote the fact that you know, you can get 690 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: something for your man here or just click this, just 691 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: click right here and go straight to Amazon dot com 692 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: or go go straight to your website to buy some problems. 693 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: But again, I commend you. Man, I'm a fan and 694 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: I will support you. So anything you want to promote, 695 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: just contact my staff. I put you on the air 696 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: interview two breaks or one break, because you're what I 697 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: The reason I do this show and plus as they say, 698 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: I'm a club member, I'm a club member. I'm a 699 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: club member, and I want to I want, I want, 700 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: I want to help you out. So I will be 701 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: making a purchase uh on this online the Ultimate Beer Collection. 702 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: I will be buying that today. Okay, I appreciate it. 703 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I thank you, my friend, and we'll 704 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: be talking to soon. Problem. 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Just tell you 732 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: that now theater you can act now because usually especially 733 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: when we start the early days of theater, because people 734 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: right sitting right next up to you. You know, early theater, 735 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: you know you can like to lean forward and see 736 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: you and touch your customers. Her latest project includes to 737 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: See Up Your Drama All American, which is based on 738 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: a true story, starting the role of Grace James. She's 739 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: also start in an upcoming movie called Bolden, a reimaged 740 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: life story of the influential New Orleans music legend Buddy Bolden, 741 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: which be in theaters May three. Please welcome to money 742 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: Making Conversations, Karema Westbrook. Thank you for having me. Oh 743 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: she comes on with that. You know that that great voice, 744 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: gracious voice, I got the morning voice, that your voice here. 745 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm just going to say one thing. All American is 746 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: inspired by story. So not all the details on the 747 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: series is exactly true. And um, I have a co 748 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: star role in Embolden. I just don't want to mislead people. 749 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: They're going to go to the movies and think I'm 750 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: a lead and then they're gonna watch all Americans think 751 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: it's out true. Okay, okay, okay, alrighty um. You know 752 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people think Black Panther. Really, you know 753 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: that they're looking for Wakanda. Just let you know at 754 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: the at the Delta they change one of the one 755 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: of the flight schedules to Wakanda. You know that. You 756 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: know that, So you know it's who wants to know 757 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: the truth will believe it to be the truth. My 758 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: whole thing is that you're absolutely right, is inspired. So 759 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: you have to say these things. So people want won't 760 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: sue you because they said that's my life. They told 761 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: that's me, that's that's really me, and there that's my role. 762 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: You're lying. I need I need to check. So that's 763 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: why I used the word inspire. But more importantly, your 764 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: career has been inspired twenty years. So what did you so? 765 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm someone that you said your early morning boars you 766 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: on the West Coast. Yes, okay, usually people thank you 767 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: for getting up early to do my show. Thank you. 768 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: What did it all start? What did it all start 769 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: for you? Being inspired? What city? What state? They said? 770 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: You know, I want to do this for a little Well. 771 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: I was born and raised in Chicago, and as a child, 772 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: I've always been very active in sports and in the arts. 773 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: I did plays, um community plays as a kid and 774 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: end in school and I I kind of went back 775 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 1: and forth between um acting in sports. That's very active 776 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: in sports. And my biggest influence growing up was Whoopi Goldberg, 777 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: Like I love Hippy Goldberg and it's so funny. As 778 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: a kid, I never realized that it was something that 779 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: I could do professionally. It always seemed so far away. 780 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: Even though I did it to entertain I did plays 781 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: that I just never really connected the ducks, like, oh, 782 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: you can actually earn a living doing this until I 783 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: was in my late teens, and once I was done 784 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: in high school, I started to look at acting more seriously, 785 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly, you know, how I could 786 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: do it on a professional level. Once I knew I 787 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: could do it on a professional level, and I started 788 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: auditioning for still auditioning for plays in Chicago independent films, 789 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,919 Speaker 1: and then there was excuse me, there was a movie 790 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: that came to Chicago call Saved the Last Dance. There 791 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: was a big production coming from Hollywood, and at the 792 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't have an agent, but all 793 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 1: the actors that I knew in Chicago was talking about 794 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: this movie. I had an audition, you got an audition, 795 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: You got an audition. I was like, oh my god, 796 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't have an audition. And at the time I 797 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: only had a commercial agent. And so this girl that 798 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: I worked with and she was like, yeah, I have 799 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: an audition tomorrow for sable as Dance. I was like, oh, really, 800 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: what time? And then she told me one time. I 801 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, who's doing the casting? Tell me 802 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: who was doing the casting? Where they were located. So 803 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: sure enough that very next day, I showed up at 804 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: the audition and clearly they were looking for a certain 805 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: type and I was not it. So I stuck out 806 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: like a sore thumb, and the casting director she came 807 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: out and she said, does everybody here have an audition? 808 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: That was clearly for me, and um, you know, I 809 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: kind of got up, like can I talk to you 810 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: for a minute, and so um, I pulled over right 811 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: and pull it over, but we kind of walked over 812 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: to the side and I was like, I don't have 813 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: an audition, but I really really want audition for this role. 814 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: And she let me audition and then I ended up 815 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: getting the call back. And it was the whole thing 816 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: with my hair because I was wearing my hair and 817 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: NAT back then, but they wanted someone along straight here. 818 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: So I went through this whole thing and trying to 819 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: find a wig. I didn't want to put a stew 820 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: in in my head. Back then, my wig was like 821 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: a mop because back then it was like lou were 822 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: talking like almost twenty years ago. So the wig like 823 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: literally set up on top of my head. It was 824 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: look awful, but I went back. I had to call 825 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: back audition again, they called me back again, and um, 826 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: they wanted to be auditioned for a different role and 827 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: then call me back again. I met with the director 828 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: and then I got a part in the movie and 829 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: that was the start of me earning enough money to 830 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: move to California, and um, after I worked on the film, 831 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: I ended up moving to California, and the rest is 832 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of history. I mean, there was a lot of 833 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: different things in between that, you know. I went to 834 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: the Academy of Dramatic Arts one summer for their summer 835 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: program prior to that, and I knew that I had 836 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: to get back to California in order to pursue a 837 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: career in television and film, and so I've always been 838 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: very goal oriented. So I wrote out all of my 839 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: goals and what I want to do, and it seemed 840 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: like everything was like falling into place. Like literally, even 841 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: from when I book say the Last Dance, I remember 842 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: meeting with the director, Thomas Carter, and he was like, so, 843 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: what are your goals? And that was like the perfect 844 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: questions for me because I had all the answers. I 845 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: was like, I want to get my sade Car, I 846 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: want to you want to get at the Union I 847 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: want to move to l A. I wanted to be television. 848 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: You know, I had like this this long list. I 849 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: was like completely ready and um, so after booking that film, 850 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: I moved to I had enough money to move to 851 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: l A. And um, you know, prior to that, as 852 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: I was saying, I'm always in very goal oriented, So 853 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: I was planning to get to l A. I didn't 854 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: know how I was going to get there. I'm very 855 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: familiar with Save the Last Dance. It's one of my 856 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: familiar It was as an interracial relationship as a young lady, 857 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: as African American lead and a white mail lead and 858 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: uh and she was wanted to be a ballet dancer, okay, 859 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: and then by going into the black community, she was 860 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: ostracized because you know, she was she had rhythm, she 861 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: was cool, and that was what she was dating, this 862 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: kind of popular black guy who was also tied to 863 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: a game, a game. So so it was one of 864 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: my favorite movies. Just that's why I know so much 865 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: details about it. So so I was like, you really 866 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: know the thing a movie it was. I would take 867 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: it when it came out because I was writing, I 868 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: was writing on storing sitcoms to time. My thought was 869 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: a silly concept. I was gonna watch this and I 870 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,919 Speaker 1: became one of my favorite movies. And so, so what's 871 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: the one of the roads? Were you one of the 872 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: that the the the girls that didn't like her, or 873 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: which one did? Did you? Did your character make the screen? 874 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 1: I did make the straight screen. I had one line 875 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: and I was um, I was one of the girls 876 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: who didn't like her and m his ex girlfriends. So 877 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: initially I auditioned for the girl, the ex girlfriend, and 878 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: I didn't get that role, but I ended up getting 879 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: like one of her friends. So I was just instigating 880 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: in the club, you know, our audition for one role 881 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: in my whole life, and I got it. Going to 882 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: the competing how do you land role? How do you 883 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: how do you win when you're going in the casting session. 884 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 1: I think you got to just go based off of 885 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: the material. This is what I've learned from just being 886 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: on the other side. Sometimes there has nothing to even 887 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: do with your performance, because somebody could come in and 888 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: do a really great job. But as a writer, as 889 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 1: a creator, sometimes you just see the character as being 890 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: a certain way. UM. A lot of times you know 891 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: it when you see it. Sometimes it's just a person's 892 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: essence that it works. It's like that's who it is. 893 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: So above all of that, you've got to be as 894 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: prepared as possible, um with the material, um and totally 895 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: believe in the circumstances that are written that it's written, 896 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: and going in and just being free and doing the work. 897 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: But ultimately a lot of times it boils down to 898 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: a person's essence. It boils down to what feels right. 899 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: Because somebody could come in and flood the lines and 900 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: be perfect for the role, and it wasn't even about them, 901 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: like getting the lines right and being perfect. It was 902 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: just something about them feels right. They feel like that 903 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: character so or it feels like what we were looking for. 904 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: The writer's like this is how I see it, or 905 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: the directors like this is how I see the character. 906 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: That's him, and the actor could be like my audition 907 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: was terrible, but they don't realize that it was something 908 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: about their essence that was right for the part. So 909 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different components that play 910 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: a part, and somebody's being being cast in the role, 911 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: But the only thing actor can really can concern themselves 912 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: with is being prepared a being as prepared as possible 913 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: and believing in the circumstances that's written in the script, 914 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: and going in and letting go and doing their thing 915 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: and letting it go when they walk out of the room. 916 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: That's important. On the phone, you know, she's twenty years 917 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: in television, film and theater. 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