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Speaker 1: what's his style? Like, I think that it will be

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Speaker 1: exactly his style. It's not so much dinners at the

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Speaker 1: White ass or whatever. It's communicating. It's picking up the

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Speaker 1: phone and calling a Republican senator, not necessarily going through

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Speaker 1: Mitch from Colin, but calling a Republican senator in saying, Senator,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to get to this infrastructure build passed and

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Speaker 1: passed quickly because we needed for our economy. But I

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Speaker 1: understand you have a program you want to get included

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Speaker 1: in the bill, and nobody has given you a fair hearing.

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Speaker 1: Come up tomorrow morning and talk to me about it.

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Speaker 1: And even if after the Senator comes up and talks

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Speaker 1: to President Biden about it, even if they can't fit

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Speaker 1: it in or there are reasons not to run, that

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Speaker 1: senator will appreciate the fact that he got his chance.

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Speaker 1: But more than often you can take some proposals from

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Speaker 1: the other side and govern and we are so happy

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Speaker 1: to be able to talk to you. We're going to

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Speaker 1: have you hang over this little break and I'm Genie Sanzano.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back on Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound

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Speaker 1: On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg Radio. And thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, Charlie. I'm Genie Sanzano in for Kevin Sirelli.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Rick Davis and we were talking with

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Speaker 1: and are still talking with the great legendary governor of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: former Governor of Pennsylvania Ed Rendell, and Governor Rendell. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you pick up on what Rick was

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Speaker 1: talking to you about your relationship with President Biden, in

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Speaker 1: your history with him, what are his political priorities and

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Speaker 1: how do they line up with the political party, the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party today, which seems to have moved a bit

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Speaker 1: at least in terms of energy to the left. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's energy on the left. Just there's energy and the

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Speaker 1: Tea Party in the Republican side, Um, there are true

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Speaker 1: believers and people who really believe their way is the

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Speaker 1: right way to achieve progress, and so they believe in

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Speaker 1: it and that generates energy. But they're not the majority

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Speaker 1: of Democratic Party anymore. Than the Tea Party is the

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Speaker 1: majority of the Republican Party. But the progressive I think

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is very progressive on a lot of issues.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's for the fifteen domenium wage, no if

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Speaker 1: the ends and buds about it. He's for having every

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Speaker 1: American covered by health care have access to quality healthcare. Now,

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Speaker 1: he's not for Medicare for all, but he's for the

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Speaker 1: same goal. And I think we should be goal oriented,

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Speaker 1: we as Democrats, me as Americans. If the goal is

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Speaker 1: to get every American covered by some form of safe,

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Speaker 1: quality healthcare, then whoever can come up with a workable plan,

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Speaker 1: we should support that plan if it achieves the goals

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Speaker 1: that we all share. And that's the message that I

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Speaker 1: would give to progressives, and I would give a message

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Speaker 1: to my moderate friends. And I'm generally more of a

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Speaker 1: moderate and I'm progressive, but to my moderate friends, is

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Speaker 1: the progressive sometimes right and sometimes their boldness is needed.

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Speaker 1: There were progressives advocating for the fifteen dollar minum wage

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Speaker 1: a year, and Africo and most moderate said that's too much,

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Speaker 1: it's too fast, who hurt business, etcetera. And then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the pandemic hit and who were the

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Speaker 1: people out there risking their lives to keep the rest

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Speaker 1: of us in food and and things that we require.

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Speaker 1: They were the grocery clerks, They were short ordered cooks,

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Speaker 1: They were people who often didn't make anywhere close to

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Speaker 1: fifteen And as President Biden said in one of his commercials,

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Speaker 1: if we call our workers essential workers, we should do

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Speaker 1: more than just praise them. We should pay them. And

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Speaker 1: the progressors are right, we should pay them, and we

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Speaker 1: should pay them. Now, fifteen dollars an hour might cause

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Speaker 1: some products to go up a little bit in cost,

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Speaker 1: but I think most Americans would be willing to shoulder

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Speaker 1: a little increase in cost to get a fair living

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Speaker 1: wage for people. Governor, I thought one of the big

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Speaker 1: stories coming out of that Joe Biden inaugural yesterday was

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Speaker 1: from one of the big progressive Bernie Sanders. But but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a policy issue. It was those gloves he

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Speaker 1: worth wearing. I mean, a wardrobe is a wardrobe issue,

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Speaker 1: and those are the things you can't control. Hey, listen

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Speaker 1: to what. I haven't to disagree with Bernie on a

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Speaker 1: lot of important issues, But boy, I really like him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's genuine, he's himself, and he's going to

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Speaker 1: do what he wants to do and what he believes in,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what people think. And he not only brought

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Speaker 1: those gloves in that great Parker, but he brought his

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Speaker 1: own chair. I don't know if you notice them. Well,

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Speaker 1: some people, you know, they they want to make sure

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Speaker 1: they're comfortable for a session like that. Probably heated bottom. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: one quick thing, if we can have you just pontificate

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the upcoming Pennsylvania election cycle. You've

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Speaker 1: got a governor's race and a Senate race with government

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Speaker 1: with Senator to me now announcing that he's not running

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Speaker 1: for reelection, and everybody seems to be scrambling around. What

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Speaker 1: do you think the Democratic chances are picking up both Well?

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Speaker 1: I think we have a good chance because we've got

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Speaker 1: good candidates, and in the end, candidates matter. Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: I think, was the only Democrat who would have beaten

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump because he was such a genuine guy, and

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Speaker 1: because a lot of working class Democrats super for Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump in switched back and voted for Joe Biden. And

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Speaker 1: I think we have good candidates. We have Josh Apparrow,

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Speaker 1: our training general, who covered himself with glory by his

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Speaker 1: conduct during the election cycle. We have Joe Torcello, who

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Speaker 1: was our state treasurer and a brilliant young guy who

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Speaker 1: I think we'd make an excellent candidate. John Federman, our

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Speaker 1: lieutenant governor, certainly a colorful, dynamic but we just had

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Speaker 1: John on the Show of a little while ago and

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Speaker 1: we were trying to pin him down whether he was

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Speaker 1: running for governor or Senate. Tough to say. We've got

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Speaker 1: Christie Houlihan, one of our congresswomen from the southeast Pennsylvania area,

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Speaker 1: who's the dynamic congresswoman and a great candidate, great, great

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Speaker 1: potential candidate. Foul Our Cruise Shusi head of the Montgomery

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Speaker 1: County Commissioners and did a great job and he's doing

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Speaker 1: a great job during the pandemic. So you don't lack

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Speaker 1: a field of candidates. We have a wealth of good candidates.

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Speaker 1: There aren't anyone who's really surfaced as a standout on

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Speaker 1: the Republican side, but that remains to be seen. So Governor,

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Speaker 1: we are so honored to talk to you, and um

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Speaker 1: I think next time Rick is going to bring in

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Speaker 1: some of those mittens for you, and that'll be that

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Speaker 1: will be your gift. We're all going to be sporting

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Speaker 1: those for a while. I think we will. It's such

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Speaker 1: an honor to talk to you. We really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time and we look forward to talking to you again soon. Well,

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Speaker 1: one message I think the media and public have to

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Speaker 1: bring to Washington. We want to get things done. We

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Speaker 1: want an infrastructure build that repairs the nation's infrastructure, puts

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Speaker 1: people of work in high quality, good paying jobs, and

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Speaker 1: makes us more competitively internationally. And we can do these things.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that Joe Biden says that no one

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Speaker 1: can disagree with is that what Americans unify and put

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Speaker 1: their minds to the task, we get it done. Absolutely absolutely. Well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Governor, and we look forward to

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Speaker 1: talking to you again soon. Thanks guys, Thank you and Rick.

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Speaker 1: We want to bring back in here our good friend

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Speaker 1: Kevin Walling, who we want to get some final words

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Speaker 1: from Kevin in terms of what he's hearing. Um, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: you know you have spent so much time on the

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Speaker 1: Democratic side of the aisle and we're just hearing from

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Speaker 1: Governor Randell. Do you agree with him in terms of

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Speaker 1: his say view on the fifteen dollar minimum wage, which

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Speaker 1: Republicans have been pushing back on and the prospects of

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Speaker 1: that passing this very narrow Senate. Yeah, it's a good question.

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Speaker 1: It's good to be back. I love, love, loved hearing

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Speaker 1: the conversation with Governor roundell Um. You know, plans to

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Speaker 1: include that fifteen dollar minimum wage genie, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: were included in this one point nine trillion dollar package. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, indications are that it's likely to be introduced

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Speaker 1: towards the end of this month early February, likely to

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Speaker 1: pass in the House before it goes over to the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Um and it will be a real test because there

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Speaker 1: are aspects of that bill that can get past with

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Speaker 1: a fifty vote margin plus Vice President Harris in terms

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Speaker 1: of what is called budget reconciliation, and then there's aspects

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Speaker 1: of it like that fifteen dollar minimum wage that would

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Speaker 1: need that fit that sixty vote threshold and would need

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Speaker 1: to get some Republicans on board. You know, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was encouraging that, you know, we saw some early

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Speaker 1: support for the larger stimulus checks from you know, Senator's

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, even Josh Holly indicating he wanted those checks

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Speaker 1: a little larger. So there's something for everyone in that

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Speaker 1: one point nine trillion dollar package, including the progressive left

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Speaker 1: lank of my party that's pushing for fifteen minimum wage.

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Speaker 1: It's just a question if if it's too much for

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Speaker 1: some Republicans and even some Democrats on my side that

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Speaker 1: think that it's becoming to conciliatory towards Republicans. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: assume some of the pushback is going to be why

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Speaker 1: aren't we winning on our level? Kevin for the Democratic Caucus,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious. We were talking to Governor Rendell

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Joe biden approach to Congress and

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's got all these long standing relationships

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Speaker 1: and he's kind of a bipartisan figure in his own right.

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Speaker 1: That's how he's conducted himself throughout his tenure in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: But Kamala Harris, the new Vice president, I mean, she

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Speaker 1: had sharper elbows when she was in the United States

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Speaker 1: Senate and and she is that tying vote. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she may spend as much time as a senator as

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Speaker 1: she does as a vice president casting break even votes.

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Speaker 1: How do you see her fitting into that crowd in

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Speaker 1: the Senate? Now? Yeah, Rick gets an interesting dynamic. You know,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I love stories, and I hear more

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Speaker 1: and more every day of your mentor John McCain, who

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Speaker 1: was my hero even as a progressive Democrat. Um and

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Speaker 1: and uh, and that's why we could never get him elected.

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Speaker 1: Then anything right, that's right, going back to John mckend's

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Speaker 1: days is a Navy liaison and helping raise Bow and

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Speaker 1: Hunter and just that great dynamic. And it's an interesting

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Speaker 1: parallel to what we see with Senator Harris now Vice

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Speaker 1: President Harris and you recall some of those really contentious

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee hearings, especially around the Supreme Court, especially on

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Speaker 1: gun control legislation, where it did get heated. Um. But

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Speaker 1: I think she represents kind of a newer crop of

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Speaker 1: of centers coming up. I thought this interesting statistic that

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Speaker 1: the median age of Americans is thirty eight and the

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Speaker 1: median age of Congress is sixty eight. She represents that

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Speaker 1: younger generation. I think that's that's coming up, that that

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Speaker 1: throws those elbows. But but hopefully you know, what we

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Speaker 1: don't see behind the scenes is some of that relationship

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Speaker 1: building I think that goes on in those long hours

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Speaker 1: and things like that. She does have some key friends

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Speaker 1: across the aisle that came in with her as freshman

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Speaker 1: four years ago. Um. But it will be really interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how much time she's spending up there, or

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Speaker 1: the threat of having her up there just to break

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Speaker 1: those those votes. And and Kevin, you raise an excellent

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Speaker 1: point that the me you said, I think the median

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Speaker 1: age um in terms of Democrats in Congress was that

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Speaker 1: was that the statistics across the board Congress combined. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there's a real disconnect from you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that to some degree the rest of the population. And

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Speaker 1: and then democratic leadership, of course, is where we are

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Speaker 1: finding some real tension because of course democratic leadership is

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Speaker 1: much older average age, much older. I mean, you've got

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Speaker 1: our three House leaders right around eighty. In terms of

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Speaker 1: Jim Claiborne, you had that great talk with him before, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Senny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi. But there's also

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Speaker 1: some excitement around Kim Jefferies and Catherine Clark and some

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Speaker 1: of our younger leaders. We had our first millennial Cabinet

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Speaker 1: secretary go before the Senate Commerce Committee and Pete Buddha

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Speaker 1: Judge today. Um, so I hope there's some room. And

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Speaker 1: that and we'll see that kind of dynamic play out

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Speaker 1: so much, Kevin Walling, and to my dear friend of

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis. It's so great to talk to both of you,

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Speaker 1: and I look forward to talking to both of you

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Speaker 1: again soon. I'm Jeanie Schanzano. This is sound On on Bloomberg.

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