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Speaker 2: I'm my favorite murder year ten. This is the ten

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Speaker 2: year breaking anniversary.

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Speaker 1: We have done this podcast. We have said these words

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Speaker 1: to you listener. Yeah, for ten years. That's crazy for

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Speaker 1: a podcast. Yeah, it's unnatural, it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: It goes against God's will, God's.

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Speaker 1: Will of podcasting. Yeah, that's Georgia Hartstar.

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Speaker 2: That's Karen kil Garriff. Did you ever think that this

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Speaker 2: would become what it's become.

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Speaker 1: No, it's wild. Yeah, it's a decade of podcasting totally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just kept saying yes to things and

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Speaker 2: they kept happening. Yeah, and that's like what has brought

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Speaker 2: us here today, from my apartment to the pod loft.

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Speaker 1: To Carnegie Hall. Wait, we've never played cardon No Ryman Hall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sydney Opera House, that's right, that fancy place in London.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very fancy, very historical. Yeah, we've done a

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Speaker 1: lot of amazing things by basically chatting about our hobby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been incredible.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's silly because I can't even put under

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Speaker 2: words the way my life has changed since we started.

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Speaker 2: In ten years. I feel so monumental and so huge

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: So the actual date was the thirteenth of January or

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Speaker 3: Sixteenth of January sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: It was the sixteenth, Yeah, I think it was the thirteenth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the actual date was the thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: Do you know my mom died on the ninth.

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Speaker 3: Holy shit, and started podcasting days after your mom died.

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Speaker 1: Well, with Alzheimer's, it starts a long time before. But

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Speaker 1: I only mentioned that not to be you know, no, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're But my sister brought that up this morning because

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Speaker 1: she's like, that's not a coincidence. I'm like, it's not

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Speaker 1: a coincidence. Really, I don't think so. I mean to

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Speaker 3: God, you know pat up there giving you the.

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Speaker 1: Just being bossy and pushing her way to the front

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Speaker 1: been here a while, but we need to get some

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Speaker 3: I made it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the things, all the things we've done and

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Speaker 2: very very lucky and grateful to Pat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to Pat, to Janet, to everybody who got it.

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm a present for you for me.

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Speaker 1: I have one for you too.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 3: I got you one because I thought you would, because you.

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Speaker 2: Always do it, don't shit, Oh my god, I didn't

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Speaker 1: I wait a second. I got you this beautiful ceramic

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's silly, it's not like a special thing.

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Speaker 2: It's just like funny and it made me laugh and

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Speaker 2: that cregered. I might as well give it to you now. Great,

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Speaker 2: because i'll forget by your birthday. Okay, so happy ten

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just pull it right out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's find out about magnet. It's a vintage.

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Speaker 2: Book that just says magnets, yes, with two little vintage

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Speaker 3: It's like a science.

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Speaker 1: Book, clearly an old library. But that they ripped that

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Speaker 1: A long time ago in ancient Greece. Wait, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you what year or two Georgia. This is the most. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's all the stickers. This is from Los Angeles White

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Speaker 1: Ooh sixty seven. Shit, it's so close.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that I got that close.

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Speaker 1: I can. You've like doused yourself and shit like this.

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Speaker 2: For so long, talking champagne, glass of diet coke is

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Speaker 2: whole thing. Okay, thank you so much. I know you

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Speaker 2: love coffee table books.

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Speaker 3: I really did. I just thought that one was the funniest.

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Speaker 1: The anniversary, Happy anniversary. Here's the pen that you've always wanted.

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Speaker 1: And I put this here by Elvis absolutely.

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Speaker 2: With the tinfoil hat on, because so ten years. A

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Speaker 2: decade anniversary gift is tens tin or illuminum aluminum, which

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Speaker 1: I mean, good luck couples who have to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: According to brides dot com, the decade long anniversary gift

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Speaker 2: resilience of your marriage. Hey, I mean the proof is

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of and I've said this and

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Speaker 1: And there's no training for what we have experienced, because

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool. Well, hats off to last

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Speaker 1: It has been a true spiritual journey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that part of it, to me has been the

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Speaker 1: It's just an incredible gift.

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Speaker 3: Can we please not?

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Speaker 1: Could we never again?

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Speaker 3: Should we get into it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we still have to do business. Look, we're very

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Speaker 1: responsible podcasters obviously, so we know there's some reading to

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Speaker 3: We've had to become responsible podcasters.

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Speaker 1: They gave us a network.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So we've really built it up. You know,

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Speaker 2: Hey, here's a couple podcasts that are on exactly right media.

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Speaker 1: For example, Bananas the Weird News podcast and This Week

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Speaker 1: Over On Bananas Curtain Scottie review their strangest headlines of

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Speaker 2: And over on Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. Roz is over

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Speaker 1: Very fun, very tin hat. Then on Brief Recess, Michael

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Speaker 1: we were just on tour, very fun, very exciting. We

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Speaker 1: merch is now available in the exactly Right store. It's

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Speaker 1: Well, very exciting. We also have ten year anniversary merch.

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Speaker 1: Stephen will be out.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And all things to all people. You did it all

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Speaker 1: Top nine now the top nine.

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Speaker 1: I always thought, well, I remembered it this way, but

445
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 1: that makes more sense because I probably screwed it up

446
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: the first time. But I always remember it being just

447
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: me sitting down and being like, here's an example of

448
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: what it could sound like, and then just sending it

449
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: to Georgia and then it being like yeah, and then

450
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 1: that's what it is and that's what it remains. I

451
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: think there's those things like that where it's like that's

452
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: a good piece of advice for people. It's just like,

453
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: don't mess with things too much. It doesn't need to

454
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: be perfect. Just like put it out there and see.

455
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Speaker 5: Well it felt like yeah, the things that you were

456
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 5: ingesting the stories at the time, it was just like

457
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 5: all right, we get to talk about it and then

458
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 5: it's like fresh on Thursdays. Yes, And I feel like

459
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 5: that was something that I feel like not everyone was doing.

460
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Speaker 4: You know.

461
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 5: It was like that, because you know, it's like if

462
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 5: you make a movie or a TV show or something,

463
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 5: it takes like months or years, just you know, again

464
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 5: working on shows where you're like in a writer's room

465
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 5: for six months and then they start coming out. But

466
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 5: it was like, oh no, we're responding to like things

467
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 5: in real time.

468
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: We don't have time to like make it precious and

469
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 2: make it perfect or even think about should we be

470
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: saying this at all?

471
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: And also, you know, again thanks to Steven, because it

472
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: got to be timely like that, because you would leave

473
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: those records and then stay up all night editing those shows.

474
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. I mean the dedication.

475
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 2: We were supposed to be recording on like Tuesdays, and

476
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: I think at least half the time we were like, shit,

477
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: we can't record until Wednesday night, not knowing how long

478
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: it took to edit.

479
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 5: No nothing, know when we were neighbors so I could

480
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 5: just walk over.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, thank god.

482
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: So crazy.

483
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Speaker 5: I also really loved when you guys were in the Simpsons.

484
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 5: To me, that's also like another you know, like thing

485
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 5: that you're you enjoy as a fan and then you

486
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: get to like see it.

487
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

488
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Speaker 2: I think that was a maybe like teary eyed moment

489
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 2: for me when we were Yeah, it was like a

490
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: podcasting episode or a true crime podcasting episode, and they

491
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: had drawn our caricatures as like podcasts, true crime podcasting,

492
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 2: you know, names and our names and face like Simpsons

493
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: faces were on there, and Simpsons to me when growing

494
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: up was one of the most important things in my

495
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: entire life. I guess one of the reasons I think

496
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm slightly funny is because of watching The Simpsons for

497
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: as long as I did. Yeah, and that so that

498
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: just felt like that was something I could send to

499
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: my brother and he would get it, you know.

500
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Speaker 3: What I mean.

501
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: I saw that picture. I just couldn't to see yourself

502
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: simpsonified is wild to know it's actually in an episode

503
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: that was really a humbling experience. It was really the

504
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: craziest honor and then full circle of like somebody on

505
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: our Facebook page in the you know, in the comments,

506
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: made up the name Murderino. They stolen from The Simpsons. Yes,

507
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: so it's like perfect. It's like instead of suing us,

508
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: they put us on the show. It's so nice of them.

509
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: That was one of those That moment and Jeopardy are

510
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: two moments that it felt like, Okay, whatever fucking happens

511
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: in life, historically, you can't take that away from me ever,

512
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it will always have

513
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: been on Jeopardy and on some sense.

514
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: So if you want to see any of these things

515
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: we're talking about, go to our social media. You can

516
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: see all those pictures if you haven't already.

517
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: Right, we're posting a lot of cute stuff for the

518
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: ten year anniversary this week, so check it out.

519
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: I know, even just being in here, like seeing all

520
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 5: this stuff.

521
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: Is like, no, so surreal collection has.

522
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 5: That like appreciation of those things is that? Do you

523
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 5: think you appreciate it more now? Because I feel like

524
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 5: at the time just even remembering like the scramble for

525
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 5: the three of us, like going through Twitter, going through Facebook,

526
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 5: like trying to just source any of this stuff because

527
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 5: it was just yea, like every week we were just like, okay,

528
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 5: let's just we need to just focus on the episode

529
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 5: now and then yeah, I don't know.

530
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's like a living scrap book kind of where

531
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: you don't And that's the thing is like I feel

532
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: like scrap book people are such future geniuses, Like when

533
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: you were talking about doing stuff for future Georgia that

534
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: it finally makes sense to me because it's like, now,

535
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, you look around and you see this stuff

536
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: and you're like, I remember when that person handed that

537
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: to me at a live show or when they sent

538
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: it in, and we're like, this is what I do

539
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: for a living, but I also want to do it

540
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: for you, Like it's such a beautiful kind of way

541
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: to keep time, and like to keep ten years. It's like,

542
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: we have a lot of this stuff with people that

543
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: wanted to play along with us.

544
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and I feel like the feeling, I don't

545
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 5: know how you felt when they recreated the pod loft

546
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 5: in that New York you know, in New York.

547
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then also at the Microsoft Theater Halloween show,

548
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: they recreated the fucking pod loft. Like that's I think

549
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: there's so many moments from this podcast and from ten

550
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: years that I keep saying to myself that are so

551
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: incredible and overwhelming, and if I stopped and thought about them,

552
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: I think i'd like short circuit. So they've been like

553
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna emotionally deal with this.

554
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: Later when I'm sixty seven, and yes.

555
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: I can't do it right now because I you know, like,

556
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: if you think about how many people are listening to

557
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: your voice right now? You can't fucking speak, So it's

558
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: just like, I'm not going to worry about it right now.

559
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: In the future, as an old lady, I'm going to

560
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: be like that was pretty fucking cool.

561
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm doing a bit or that's what I'm

562
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: doing to you right now. But it can't do it

563
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: not speaking bit unless you're not.

564
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: Speaking yeah, unless you're watching, right.

565
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it is that kind of thing where I

566
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: think we were very good about keeping it. It's like, yeah,

567
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: you can't think about those numbers and you can't think

568
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: about the you know. It's that idea. I think at

569
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: some point one of the many problems that we had

570
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: to all solve together and it was like, look, we're

571
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: not looking for a consensus here. This isn't we're not

572
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: trying to it's we didn't do something to be super

573
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: popular for millions of people. We did something for each

574
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: other and for ourselves. And then it's like and then

575
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: it went somewhere, which I think is the advice if

576
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: people are looking for it, where it's like please yourself

577
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: and make yourself laugh or interest yourself because you can't

578
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: think of it that way. Or you will totally melt down.

579
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 5: No, I always feel like it's like telling people. It's like,

580
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 5: can you have a fun conversation with somebody where I

581
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 5: mean again, back in the early days, it was like

582
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: seeing you to make each other laugh for discovering something new.

583
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: Was always like so you know, it's like that. That's

584
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: when I was like with my in my notebook, like

585
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 5: writing the things that you guys said, you know, like

586
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: that's the stuff where it's like if you can do that,

587
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 5: like I feel like you could do anything.

588
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: We took those and made them into the show titles

589
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: instead of using the number puns and nine was pretty good.

590
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a couple good ones. But also that

591
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: just makes me think of Georgia would always have either

592
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: a pot of coffee or her old coffee from the morning,

593
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: and Steve and I would have a big old cup

594
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: of like seven thirty coffee and just be like, yeah,

595
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: let's do this thing.

596
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: We're super charge plus diet coke, yes.

597
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: Whiskey for me.

598
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're going all in different directions. I think

599
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: that's what made it all need.

600
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: Our own special form of just lighting off. Yeah, like

601
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: the fireworks that went off one time in the middle

602
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 5: of recording, Oh my god, all the cats like scattered. Yeah. Wait,

603
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 5: So then when like number seven writing the books say

604
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 5: sexy don't get murdered like nice? Was that a moment

605
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 5: where you had to like actually sit down because that

606
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 5: was to be the fun and surprising thing about reading

607
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: it was like you had to like or when you

608
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: were talking about it and getting into you're like, oh,

609
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: we actually have to like write about our whole life.

610
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what was that?

611
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 5: Like?

612
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: That was one of the hardest I don't think we

613
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: expect Oh hey, look, oh look, oh there it is.

614
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: It's a very bitter look on my face right there.

615
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: I'm very angry.

616
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm stoked because that was the fuck one of the

617
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: hardest things I've ever had to do in my entire

618
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: fucking life. We didn't really know what it was going

619
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: to be. It turned out to be like a memoir

620
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways of the stupid, painful things

621
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: we've done and gone through that naked so that we're

622
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: the people who you can trust to deliver these pieces

623
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: of advice too, which means you had to like dig deep.

624
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: Every note I would get from Ali, our incredible editor,

625
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: was like, what did it feel like, tell me more

626
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: about how hard that moment was or how awful it was.

627
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: It was just like, yeah, there was a lot of

628
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: therapy at the time.

629
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible. Well, and also just the opportunity.

630
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: It's like everybody knows like if you get a popular thing,

631
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: if you get over a certain number of people that

632
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: will pay attention to it, you'll get a book deal,

633
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: or you'll get a blank or you'll get a blank.

634
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: And when that came through, it was like, well, this

635
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: could just be another perfunctory thing that gets done because

636
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: that's what gets done. But then it's like, but we

637
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: could really do something with this. And also we are

638
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: not true crime journalists. Again and again we say so,

639
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: it's like we don't have to worry about that. It's

640
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: like we can just talk about the one thing we know,

641
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: Like I felt, I felt so much comfort in that

642
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: because it's just like we don't have to pretend, like

643
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: suddenly in the middle of all this, we don't have

644
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: to pretend to be something. It's like we'll just keep

645
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: on doing what we've been doing and hopefully it'll work.

646
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: I think that was probably the Writing a book is

647
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: something I always wanted to do in my life, like

648
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: that was a life goal. I don't know how the

649
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: fuck was going to happen because I didn't go to college. Yeah,

650
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: you know, same, and so getting that getting that opportunity

651
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: was like, this is once in a lifetime thing that

652
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: you've always wanted. Don't fuck it up, like make yourself

653
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: proud of it. And there are times like these days,

654
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: I like, even now years later, sometimes I'm like I

655
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: think I feel lazy or I haven't done anything, and

656
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: then I'm like, you wrote a book.

657
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: You wrote out a book, a book.

658
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: That cannot be taken away. There's a fucking number one

659
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: bestseller on fucking New York Times. Yeah, that can't be

660
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: taken away.

661
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. People will tell you they like it,

662
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: but whatever. So now you've achieved this dream. But maybe

663
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: it's actually not good or blah blah blah, but the

664
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: reviews were good. So I just kept looking for like, okay,

665
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: well where's the bad things so that you know, I

666
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: can take this all apart in my negative way, and

667
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: it would just like couldn't do it, couldn't do it.

668
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: And then people to this day like bring it to

669
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: us to sign or tell us how much it meant

670
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: to us like it's incredible, it's crazy.

671
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm so, I'm really I do still think it's great.

672
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm like really proud of us, I really am. I'm

673
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: just there's nothing about it that I would change.

674
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: Plus you APOLOGI you.

675
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: Giamadi in the audiobook What More You Want?

676
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: I forgot how did that even happen.

677
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Because I did the running joke of like, people would

678
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: ask us if we were going to do like a

679
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Q and a episode people in Ascus, who would play

680
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: you in the movie, And you said the people that

681
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: you people have told you you look like. And then

682
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: of course I said Paul Giumadi, And then I guess

683
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: someone told Paul Giumadi that, and so then he was

684
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: trying to get a hold of us to be like

685
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast and I liked it or something.

686
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: And one day I woke up and there was an

687
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: email from a random email where it's like the fact

688
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: that I didn't delete it is a miracle, because it'd

689
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know who this is from, but

690
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I read it anyway, and it was like you people

691
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: are harder to get a hold of. And it was

692
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: written in this perfect Paul Giamadi voice, and then it

693
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: was like, thank you for saying nice things about me.

694
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, your delight. He basically heard we were talking

695
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: about so went and listened to the podcast and was like,

696
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: I like your podcast. And I was like, well, then

697
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the gross Hollywood thing and say

698
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: would you like to read a chapter? And he was

699
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: like sure, And then I was totally sure he was

700
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: going to just flake later on, just like tell me us,

701
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: and he did it.

702
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: He did it.

703
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: What it mention so surreal. And then I mean, like

704
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 5: again just expanding outward because we were talking a little before,

705
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: but just the you know, the number six is touring. Yeah,

706
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: when did you decide that? You were like, we have

707
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: to do this, and then how did you? I mean again,

708
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: like I think in twenty nineteen, you guys toured from

709
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: January to May.

710
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't talk about it.

711
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we just wanted to do a live show.

712
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: A couple there were some podcast festivals and they were

713
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: fun and made sense.

714
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: To what we were doing. So we were like, well,

715
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: let's do.

716
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: Our own live show, like outside of podcasting event.

717
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: It seemed like that's what a lot of comedy podcasters did.

718
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: It's like if people go and they put up one

719
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: of those folding tables and then you know, you line

720
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: ups and MiGs and you sit there and you do

721
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: your podcasts and people can see you in real life.

722
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, let's all call the Bell House.

723
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: That's where a lot of comics that I know in

724
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: New York like do stuff like that, and we'll just,

725
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, see what happens. And we so many people

726
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: tried to buy tickets that the guy called me like,

727
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on because we fucked up

728
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: their whole day and probably their week with the like

729
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: it's sold out immediately, the whole thing. And that was

730
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: when we started to get the sense of like, oh,

731
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: this isn't we don't understand how big this is, and

732
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: we don't understand that it's like, yeah, we sold out

733
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: the Bell House.

734
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: That's a big deal.

735
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. It was a huge deal to me.

736
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: I think this last tour that we were on two

737
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: was really cool because so for the our LA shows,

738
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: I have since talked to a lot of people who

739
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm really close. We hadn't toured in six years, so

740
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: there's actually that I'm very close with that I didn't

741
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: know then, and so hadn't seen the live shows or

742
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: hadn't been to a live show, so they came in

743
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: there like, oh, I didn't understand you're always stressed. I

744
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: didn't totally understand it until I went to a live

745
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: show and heard and saw everyone, Like when you walked out,

746
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: I didn't realize what a big fucking.

747
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Deal it was.

748
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: That same thing happened my friend Lark, who now does

749
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: my hair. I invited him to come and he just

750
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: told me when he was doing my roots.

751
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: The other day.

752
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: He was like that, he goes, you didn't tell me

753
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: anything about what that was going to be. Like I

754
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: thought I was going to go support you, like I

755
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: was going to be nice and be in the audience

756
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: for you. He goes, I was so embarrassed when I

757
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: got to the Pasadena Civic Auditorium or whatever. He is

758
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: that like, I had no idea and you didn't tell me,

759
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm like not a detailed person.

760
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you say, Like, here's how many listeners

761
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: we have, here's our numbers, please come to this show.

762
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: It's yes, you can't. You don't do that.

763
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, there was definitely a lot of like, oh, okay,

764
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: this this is.

765
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: Bigger than what I thought. Yeah, which is kind of.

766
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: D I mean when we did Anaheim, I got to

767
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 5: stand on stage where I saw Michelle Branch in high school.

768
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: So that was just like, oh my god, everyone this

769
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: you have no idea.

770
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: So it's so incredible.

771
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: That was such a good show. When Georgia did the Disneyland, but.

772
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: That's a Disneyland. I just want to go do that

773
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: for so long.

774
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: Is there live show memories that stick out to you?

775
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 5: I think of like the person crawling the audience.

776
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: The fun part about especially that first year of touring,

777
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: was we were out with a bunch of people who

778
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: were like they were friends with us, and so it

779
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: really was like you just went and did a live

780
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: show with all your friends in the audience where were

781
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: they were heckling us and they wanted to be a

782
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: part of it and all of it. But at the

783
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: same time that dynamic that none of us had gotten before,

784
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: which is this is what happens when we do this part.

785
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: This is what they're doing while we do this part.

786
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: Like pockets, having addressed with pockets gets a huge round

787
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: up a part.

788
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: What okay, that's our thing.

789
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeap, No one would understand, but it's like, but everyone

790
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: understands because we're all kind of the same in that

791
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: way it was I mean those early days. Yeah, the

792
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: Portland shows were always amazing. I think my family seeing

793
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: coming to the Oakland shows and seeing me and having

794
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: that same experience of we didn't understand.

795
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: What this was.

796
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: And then of course never forget the Arizona show. I

797
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: think it was Tempe or in the Round Phoenix, Oh yeah,

798
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: the show in the Round, the show where the stage

799
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: was spinning in a circle.

800
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: Since I'm trying to remember, but I feel like the

801
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: way you described it was just.

802
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: Like it was almost unnoticeable until suddenly you looked up

803
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: and the person you were had been looking at what

804
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: was not there.

805
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: And and for that, I would say it was too

806
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: fast because it was like it was almost like for

807
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: people in a musical, it was perfect, but for podcasting

808
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: it was insane. It was like we could only focus

809
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: on each other because we're just like it was. It

810
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: was so crazy and so funny, and no one told

811
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: us that it was in the round or on a

812
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: moving stage, so walking out onto stage, we were discovering

813
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: all of it at the same time. It was hilarious.

814
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 5: Did you do a full rotation.

815
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: I never asked, did you do like, oh oh multiple times?

816
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: I think it went around twenty or thirty times during

817
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: the length of an hour. Oh yeah, it.

818
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: Was pretty good. It was good fodder.

819
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: It was I mean, it was insanity. And then that

820
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: show had the best hometown I think of all time.

821
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: She did an amazing job.

822
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: I mean some of those hometowns were so people were

823
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 5: like even just the most recent the LA shows, everyone

824
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 5: is just like so excited. I forget, Like, do you

825
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: have like a favorite hometown person or just like I

826
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 5: mean there was marriage proposals, like, there was all kinds

827
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: of stuff. People came on stage, guests.

828
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's favorite person, then I would pick

829
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: our drunk front from Washington, d C. Who could only

830
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: say Laura to Bobbit fifteen times. And she tried, and

831
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: she was there and she was loving life, and you

832
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: know it was just Georgia had to pick from fifty

833
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: feet away and this woman was waving her hand like

834
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: we told her the rule you can't be too drunk.

835
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: Maybe we made up the rule you can't be too drunk.

836
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: It after Yeah, no, you always framed it. You're like

837
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 5: there was a whole thing. Yeah, people had to pay attention,

838
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 5: where like everyone settled down for a moment. Yes, please,

839
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 5: these are the qualifications, now go yeah, be a.

840
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: Good storyteller, know what you're doing. Yeah, all those things

841
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: with this Gal.

842
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: And I do love that, like the kind of just

843
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: unexpectedness of it all where it's just you're fucking hoping

844
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: this person delivers, and when they deliver, it's so it's powerful,

845
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: but it's even more so because you just it's not

846
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: planned all.

847
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: It's just so so incredible.

848
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's like a person that's like I am

849
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: the city's district attorney, where you're like you're listening to

850
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: this podcast, like, oh my god, Yeah.

851
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: Did the touring this time feel different?

852
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean I just felt it just felt like a gift,

853
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, after like not doing it

854
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: for so long, having it kind of be like we

855
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: don't have to do it, it's not like required, and

856
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: then being able to like film it. There was just

857
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: a lot to it that was like it felt very

858
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: like be in this here, be in the now right now,

859
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: and really love it because it was those first I mean,

860
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: the back to back years were hard, and it was

861
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: the hardest version of touring multi cities in a weekend.

862
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, got crazy.

863
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he tour manage the hell out of that thing

864
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: when he got in there and saved it. For sure.

865
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: It was nuts. There was that one show maybe it

866
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: was Vancouver that the it was just the best audience,

867
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: like the response and the stories, and I think it

868
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: was Vancouver. It was they bubble up. But then like

869
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: if I sat here long enough enough, I would name

870
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: every single one well.

871
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 5: And also I feel like over the of just like

872
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 5: wanting to pick the stories. I mean, I was embarrassed

873
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 5: to when we were doing Kansas City and then was

874
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: like looking at Kansas City Kansas murderers, I was like,

875
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 5: oh King, I'm so sorry. This is Kansas City, Kansas,

876
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 5: not Kansas City.

877
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 3: That's on them though, Like come on, you.

878
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Cannot name the city is the same.

879
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: And one that doesn't even belong to the same.

880
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: No, irresponsible. It was not our fault, not your fault

881
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: at all.

882
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 5: Thank you closure.

883
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: Yes, No, we're fine.

884
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 5: Is there like a story that you were glad that

885
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: you did live versus doing it home?

886
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: The live story choosing part is so hard because it

887
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 2: has to be so many things that it can't be,

888
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: you know, or it can't be so many things that

889
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: it can be when it's just the two of us, because.

890
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: You don't want to bum out a whole fucking audience.

891
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: There's just a different expectation, and we had to learn

892
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: it by doing it, which is a tough way to

893
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: learn on stage a live show. I mean that actually

894
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: is the definition of stand up comedy. It's a their

895
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of an awful experience. But then you like the

896
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: improvement and the kind of you make these little changes

897
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, here's the parameter, here's what we

898
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: will talk about here. And also just if we have

899
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: a room full of you know, if we're lucky two

900
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: thousand people, how are we going to maximize this experience

901
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: so that we're all this is like kind of best

902
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: case scenario for this city, this audience.

903
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: What do they want?

904
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: And then yeah, also like all sort of remember that

905
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: when they're booing, they're usually not booing us, they're booing

906
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: the story.

907
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, what point were you like? Okay, this is they're

908
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: not booing forever.

909
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: I'm still like, what are you mad? Where'd I say?

910
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: What did we do?

911
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: That's why I used to get so angry at when

912
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: they would heckle, because it was like old, the old

913
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: me of like if you're saying anything that means you're

914
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: against me, where it's like these are people that just

915
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: want to talk. Also, they finally get to talk back

916
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: to you and they really want to do it.

917
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: And they had drinks before and a meetup and so.

918
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all kinds of reasons.

919
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I also loved seeing both of you meeting

920
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 5: everybody afterwards.

921
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the meeting a fucking special, so fun.

922
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: And people just were like like this, like like ready

923
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 5: because they just had the thing Like in New Zealand,

924
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 5: somebody had ice cream with them the whole show, like

925
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, like do you remember any like

926
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: specific things like that.

927
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 1: But the Australian Museum there was amazing experiences. I got

928
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: proposed to remember that I got proposed to. A woman

929
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: brought her rugby player husbands. She's like, Karen, and I

930
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: want you to see what a real one looks like

931
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: in real life. Like was that we had some great ones.

932
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: It's so funny because after the show you're like just

933
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: completely emotionally drained. It just takes a lot out of you.

934
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: And then you have to do this like hundred person

935
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: meet and greet. But then you're also like they're bringing

936
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: me the coolest fucking guests, and like every you know,

937
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: every other person has some like either ceramic beautiful thing

938
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: that they made for you or a fucking bag full

939
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: of gies. Yeah, or like a Siamese cat stuffed animal.

940
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's like then you can't sleep all

941
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: night because you have so much like endorphins running through

942
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: because it's just such.

943
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: A cool experience.

944
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: And then it's people getting to tell you like how

945
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: long they listen in like what you were there with

946
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: them for. Yeah, and that's just like you don't get

947
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: that when it's just sitting in a you know, studio

948
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: recording and I hadn't had it for so long. And yeah,

949
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: like we'll run into people on the street who will

950
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: like say hi and introduce themselves.

951
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: But just that onslaught that you get when you're touring.

952
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: Is it's life giving? Yeah?

953
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: Did they like when the people tell you they go

954
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: back to school for that?

955
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

956
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: So many like I became a this and I went

957
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: back to school for that, or I left this relationship

958
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: because I this, I went to there's so many I

959
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: went to therapy because you guys talked about it and

960
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: that to me, is like the fucking point of it all.

961
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so cool.

962
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

963
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 5: No, I had a friend who was telling me, like

964
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 5: I growing up, like I didn't think mental health was

965
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: like a thing until they listened to the show.

966
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

967
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 5: It was very touching.

968
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: And also I love the fact that that was just

969
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: the coincidence of both you and I am not giving

970
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: a shit, Like I was raised by a mother who's

971
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: a psychiatric nurse. You were raised where therapy was very

972
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: much like fine and good and a part of your life,

973
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: and so it was just this weird we didn't know better,

974
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: and then we were like everybody else was interpreting it.

975
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: I was like you allowed. Other people were were like no,

976
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: we just loved talking about ourselves, Like.

977
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: What did you do today? I went to therapy? Yeah,

978
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about my day like something cool. My

979
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: therapist said, No, I'm not, like I didn't and like

980
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: the medication change I'm going through right now, it's like

981
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: just part of my life. But that the fact that, like,

982
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: I think because of that, people didn't, you know, we

983
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: made it not a big deal to talk about, and

984
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: so it's not a.

985
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: Big and we get credit for as if we planned

986
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: it and we didn't.

987
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 5: Number five on this list is creating the podcast network

988
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: exactly right, Like again, this is so the space is

989
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: bigger than I think the original Yeah network studio basically.

990
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: You mean the original studio where you couldn't flush the

991
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: bathroom toilet while people were recording because there five feet

992
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: away from each other. It's not less.

993
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

994
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: We always say, like, you know, they gave us a network,

995
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: and it really did start with like a deal that

996
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: was being struck, and part of the deal was they

997
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: want you to have your own network. So that is

998
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: how it started, and we said, awesome, let's do it.

999
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think they expected us to like to

1000
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: do it ourselves the way we of course would never

1001
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: let anyone else fucking do it.

1002
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I think it was that idea.

1003
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Probably at the time they're like, well, if this true

1004
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: crime podcast is popular, then that'll be a network with

1005
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of other true crime podcasts. And then, of course,

1006
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: very quickly we found that it's like in sales, it

1007
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way because we will eat up all

1008
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: of the advertising. There was all the kind of business

1009
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: behind the logic of it, and so then we were like, well,

1010
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: we have plenty of hilarious friends who are not interested

1011
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: in true crime at all, and they wanted their podcasters,

1012
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: and we got to the way I used to say,

1013
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: it's very hackey, but it's like we got to build

1014
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: our own Marvel universe of all the people around us,

1015
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: where it's like everybody can't be Superman, you know what

1016
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, every If everybody's flying around with their laser vision,

1017
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: it's a little boring. We need everybody that's like, we

1018
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: need an Aquaman and we need a storm. There's no

1019
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: way these people are all in the Marvel universe. And

1020
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: I know there's people that are furious right now, furious

1021
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: that I would be cross promoting these characters.

1022
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: Well they so yeah.

1023
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I think that what happened was they thought that that

1024
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: we were just going to churn out a bunch of

1025
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: my favorite murders to make them a ship ton of money.

1026
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: And I think we pissed off a lot of fucking

1027
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: people because we were like, that's that's not what we

1028
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: want to do. That doesn't really happen that way, and

1029
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: like we want to do it our way.

1030
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 5: So I think you're picking things that resonate with you.

1031
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 5: I want to listen to that exactly like this podcast

1032
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 5: will kill You or yes, right, you know, just any

1033
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: of the kind of shows like Bridger just getting to

1034
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: Open Presence and.

1035
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: He's super pissed all the time. Yeah, this podcast will

1036
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: kill You is George's favorite podcast. And then I remember

1037
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: her choos just like I think this would work because

1038
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: it's thematically similar, but it's not on point where it's

1039
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: just like yes, like those kinds of you know, that's

1040
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: how you pick trust me that same thing where it's

1041
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: like we do podcasting because we like podcasts and we

1042
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. So it all did make sense. But yeah,

1043
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: the build of it, it was just like how are

1044
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: we going to do this? And how are we going

1045
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: to keep on doing this? And it really did become

1046
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: its own separate jobs. Yeah, it's crazy.

1047
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is it like now?

1048
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: I feel like, well, now we have like forty employees.

1049
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's just.

1050
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: A yeah, I don't Yeah, it was definitely way way

1051
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: more work than we thought it would be. I often

1052
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: wonder like if we hadn't started the network with our

1053
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: lives would be like right now. It definitely it turned

1054
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: it into a business rather than a hobby. Yeah, and

1055
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: I had to step away from the CEO angle of

1056
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: it or running the business at all, because I just

1057
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: don't know how, and I don't want to pretend like

1058
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: I do. I got really just overwhelmed.

1059
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: By it all.

1060
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: But I love the network, I love the podcast we

1061
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: get to put on it, and I think it's a

1062
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: special place. I think, like those podcasts that come to us,

1063
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm always like, they're going to be happy, and we

1064
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: want to make sure they're happy, and you know, make

1065
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: it the place where everyone gets to be themselves and

1066
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: creative and not being told what to do, because I

1067
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: don't think like nowadays my favorite murder would be picked

1068
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: up on a big network, like they make us change

1069
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: everything about it, you know, or like I wouldn't be

1070
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: famous enough to like host a podcast, so we don't

1071
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: want we didn't want.

1072
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: To do stuff like that to other people. Yeah.

1073
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and for years knowing creative people, working with

1074
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: creative people, and being around creative people, it's like, yeah,

1075
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: you learn, you know what you like, and you know

1076
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: that your taste is good, and you watch you know,

1077
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: you know why something seems to be better than something else,

1078
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: and it is not just it's not just chance, it's

1079
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: not you know what I mean, and it's not just surface.

1080
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: It's like, especially in podcasting, you have to be better

1081
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: I think, and more entertaining and more compelling than the

1082
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: average person on TV because there's no distraction. It's hyper focused.

1083
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: I literally, yeah, this back and forth. So there is

1084
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of the magical combination that Georgia and

1085
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: I knew simply by going okay, we've done this, we

1086
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: see what's hit, we think we know why. And then

1087
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: of course I had a background in television where just

1088
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: like this used to be my job all the time,

1089
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: where you're trying to put ideas together and make that

1090
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: magical combination hit, and whether you do or not, it's

1091
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: a completely different business and it's also a different science.

1092
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: So it's just like, okay, I had a little bit

1093
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: of that knowledge. But also all of it was a startup,

1094
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: and I mean, and that was kind of the spirit

1095
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: of it, which is just like, well, let's just see

1096
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: what's going to happen.

1097
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then giving i mean Paul holes Applia every

1098
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: week to be his magical.

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Speaker 1: Self our pleasure, I mean, thank you, sir.

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00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 5: Or was that like approaching him because I feel like,

1101
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: I mean, the Golden State Killer getting caught was so

1102
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: such a part of the I was unfortunately at Margueritaville

1103
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 5: when both of you found out. That's right, But like

1104
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 5: even just approaching him to start something, and like I

1105
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 5: feel like, I mean, he was probably used to that

1106
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 5: whole like TV world, where it was very restrictive, and

1107
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 5: you were like, here, here's an opportunity to get to

1108
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 5: talk about the things that you want to talk about.

1109
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god. He was a very experienced talking head

1110
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: before we ever talked about him. But that you're right,

1111
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: that kind of order of how it went, whereas like

1112
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: Georgia and I the Golden State Killer focus, you know,

1113
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: he hadn't been renamed. Michelle McNamara came in her work,

1114
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: her book I'll Be Gone in the Dark, her documentary,

1115
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: like all these things kind of happening together, her very sudden,

1116
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: very shocking death, and then within a year of that

1117
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: or so, that case gets solved. And it's like a

1118
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: case that had been so old and nobody, I think

1119
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: nobody ever thought it was going to and then suddenly

1120
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: it was like these changes, and it was very parallel

1121
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: to our experience where it was like those kinds of

1122
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: watching that happening change so quickly where it was like

1123
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: I never imagine this. Now we're dealing with it, now

1124
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: we're in it, and yeah him, then we got the

1125
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: craziest thing of all, which is the surprise of Paul

1126
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: Holes on the podcast. So yeah, that went great. And

1127
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: then it was like the second we all left that office,

1128
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I was sending an email that was like, you want

1129
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: to absolutely you are not allowed to do a podcast

1130
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: anywhere else. It has to be with us, And he

1131
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: was like, I agree, Yeah, that was very cool.

1132
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I feel like maybe there's another surprise we

1133
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 5: want to do with the Paul Holes. Well, oh my.

1134
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: Gosh, like you two have gotten yourselves into a bit

1135
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: of a pickle. It sounds like we need to have

1136
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: a conversation. It's going to be fun to see who

1137
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: flips on who ten years are you kidding? I remember

1138
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: the first time I heard about you guys and I

1139
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: had filmed a investigation discovery documentary on this unsolved Golden

1140
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: State killer case. It's the one where they have me

1141
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: running in a creek like Forrest Gump. After it was released,

1142
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 4: the producer called me up and she says, Paul, You're

1143
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 4: not going to believe this. Karen George are you talking

1144
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: about you? Yeah, on the podcast my favorite murder. I

1145
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: don't know what you're talking about. As you know, I

1146
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 4: don't listen to podcasts, especially when I was still active.

1147
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: But obviously fate ended up intervening, if you will, and

1148
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: I blame YouTube always happened. You know, very special memory

1149
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: is when I flew down to LA to be a

1150
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: surprise guest on your show and I was hitting in

1151
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: essence in a closet at the studio where you were

1152
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 4: recording at the time, and then ultimately was shoved into

1153
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: the room in front of a microphone. And you know,

1154
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: I never had any experience talking into a microphone before,

1155
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 4: especially for something called a podcast. And you know, at

1156
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: the time, Karen, you and I sort of had a

1157
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: little bit of an online relationship going on kindless those days.

1158
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: But anyways, that was an amazing experience. And by the way,

1159
00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 4: Karen Georgia was in on it the entire time. I

1160
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: don't know if she's ever divulgeat.

1161
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: She knew she knew was.

1162
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for all the support you've given me.

1163
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: Thank you for supporting Buried Bones. I think it's been

1164
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: way too long since we have sat down together, had

1165
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: a drink again, just caught up and probably need to

1166
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: include Kate because if we don't, she's going to kick

1167
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: my as she doesn't. Our producer Alexis will definitely do that.

1168
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: Ten years. It's been an amazing ten years. I'm looking

1169
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: forward to the next ten years.

1170
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 5: Please again, and yeah take care.

1171
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Poles here.

1172
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: That was really lovely.

1173
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1174
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: After we recorded that surprise appearance by him, we were

1175
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: all all going to the Tam o' shanter and after

1176
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: to have lunch, and somehow he got put in the

1177
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: car with me, even though I was like, I can't

1178
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: drive anywhere with a cop and the whole he was

1179
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: like trying to chit chat with me the whole way,

1180
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 2: but I was like so focused on not like breaking

1181
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: the law, and I guess just kept going through my

1182
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: head of like all the things I've done that are

1183
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: illegal in my life, just sitting next to that, and

1184
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: he's like such like stoic dude, you know, and I

1185
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: was just like, be cool, be fucking Then we got

1186
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: some tama. I was like, whiskey please, just like I

1187
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: can't soph be alone in a car with Paul fucking holes.

1188
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: Also like he's gorgeous, so that did not help.

1189
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: He's a lovely man. This is the kind of lesson,

1190
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: as you well know, that we learned on the podcast

1191
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: all the time, which is you say one offhand thing

1192
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: because it feels like you're in a private conversation with

1193
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: your friend that of course a bunch of people are

1194
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: actually listening to. So and that happened with a bunch

1195
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: of stuff. But with the Paul Holes thing, I was

1196
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: just like, there's hot guy's talking about you know whatever,

1197
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: very whatever, And then I said he looked like the

1198
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: guy from Hunter. And then all of a sudden, my

1199
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: whole Twitter feed is like everybody adding me and talking

1200
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: about it and talking about it. And then he came in.

1201
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: Then he was it, and then people went crazy and

1202
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: it was like the hot for Holes movement start. It

1203
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: was and I'm just like sitting there looking at it, like, again,

1204
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: we did not plan for this, we didn't do it

1205
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: on purpose. And then there was like the people who

1206
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: were coming in and going he's married, like, how dare

1207
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: you where I'm like, he's doing it too, We're like

1208
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: it was just so surreal.

1209
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was an incredible moment.

1210
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Crazy.

1211
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of moments. Should we get into our favorite

1212
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: episodes number four? Yeah, my favorite episodes?

1213
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: Sure, what's your favorite episode?

1214
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 5: I mean, Mary Vincent. Yeah, Like, I just think that

1215
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 5: story has like stuck with me personally over the years,

1216
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 5: and I feel like it's one of the things anytime

1217
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 5: I've run into murderinos. Besides, before you started touring again,

1218
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 5: anytime I'd run into a Murderina's like when are Karen

1219
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 5: and Georgia going back on Dora? But like, yeah, Mary

1220
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 5: Vincent's stories, just.

1221
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 3: That's the one I see.

1222
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that one mentioned like online more than

1223
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: any other one, or like I listened to that and

1224
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: became a murdering now, Like that's totally the one.

1225
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: So good job.

1226
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: Oh thank you kindly, I mean, honestly, the Anaheim deaths

1227
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: at Disneyland was just it was it was unexpected, and

1228
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: it's so fun as a prize for me because you know,

1229
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: it's a surprise for Georgia and I don't know the

1230
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: stories we're about to tell each other ever in ten years. Yeah,

1231
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: we've never known. And so that one was like because

1232
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: we were in Anaheim, it was like the people, the locals,

1233
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: the people who've had to deal with Disneyland or worked

1234
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: at Disneyland or know all that stuff. And we were

1235
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: also in this funny little room that felt like a

1236
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: conference room at like the Hyatt that they had made

1237
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: into like a theater for us. So at certain points

1238
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: it was like rocking, literally like the room was rocking

1239
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: with like the back and forth of it all, and

1240
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: it was like that experience couldn't have happened in any

1241
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: other way without that story making it happen.

1242
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 2: And I love that so much because and I said

1243
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: this about hometowns recently too, so death set amusement parks

1244
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: have been anxiety obsession of mine since I was a kid,

1245
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: Like I remember the first time I heard about someone

1246
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: dying on Space Mountain at Disneyland, as like a six

1247
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: year old and being like, what the fuck?

1248
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: I need to know everything about.

1249
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: This, so like this podcast that's true crime, and also

1250
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: with hometowns, where it's like I want to know what

1251
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: happened in your fucking neighborhood that you can't stop thinking

1252
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: about because it should happen in mine. And I have

1253
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: not been able to stop thinking about that my whole

1254
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: life because I have anxiety. But also like how could

1255
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: you There's people who just go around places and not

1256
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: think about the worst things that could happen.

1257
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: Right, the fuck are you so getting to do that story?

1258
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: So even though it's true crime, death's at Disneyland, you

1259
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't think goes along with that, And like getting to

1260
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: sit on stage and tell you and an like whole

1261
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: audience that are excited to hear about my biggest fears

1262
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: and share it and not be called names or not

1263
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: be like sent to rehab or whatever. Like it's just

1264
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: so fucking incredible and special. And then the hometowns too,

1265
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: where it's like I used to just ask random people

1266
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: once in a while, you know what happened. Now we

1267
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: get like fucking inundated, and I get to hear everyone's

1268
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: story and I just like, and.

1269
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: That's my career, that's my life.

1270
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why, like I was able, I can

1271
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: like help my family with money like is because of this.

1272
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: So that's just an incredibly special, amazing thing.

1273
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the it's you think you're alone, or

1274
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: you think you're different or weird, and then to have

1275
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: all these people be like, no, I had the exact

1276
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: same thought you had, or I have the exact same

1277
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: fear you have, and that or that idea of like

1278
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: when we're going through those deaths and this is the

1279
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: misunderstanding that happens all the time. No one likes the

1280
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: death part, right, that's not what we're doing. We're basically

1281
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: talking about those things going this happened. It's so awful.

1282
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: We're together, you're not alone reading this in the dark

1283
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: in your bed anymore. Like we somehow bridge this gap

1284
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: of that we didn't realize needed to be bridged so badly.

1285
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: Of like, we're going to talk about it together, and

1286
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: it's going to have all the elements not it's not

1287
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: just jokes. It's not comedy the whole time. It's comedy, tragedy, comedy, tragedy,

1288
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: poignant moment, personal moment, like it hits all those buttons

1289
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: and not consciously. It's just like that's just kind of

1290
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: how we figured out how to do it.

1291
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, and for you are your favorite episodes of

1292
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 5: your own just the kind of rabbit holes you would

1293
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 5: have gone or you feel like half the time, you're like, well,

1294
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 5: I've already been reading about this for like a few weeks,

1295
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 5: Like Typhoid Mary, or like the Galapa ghost stories, that

1296
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 5: was like stuff that you were already inter different plane

1297
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 5: crashes or bridge collapses or moth like that, just with

1298
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 5: stuff you both were already interested in.

1299
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: I can't when when there is a day like when

1300
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: we're going to record, and even when things have been

1301
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: so fucking stressful in our world and everything that's going on,

1302
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: and I go, I can't. In my mind, I think

1303
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell Karen about the story. I

1304
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: can't like or I'm writing, you know, putting the finishing

1305
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: touches on him, like, oh, I can't. I'm gonna add

1306
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: this because Karen's gonna like when I'm excited to tell

1307
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: Karen a story, that's when I know it's going to

1308
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: be a good episode. And whether that's on stage or

1309
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: just here, I mean, that's when I know it's like,

1310
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: so even a cold case, I'd be like, Okay, I

1311
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: have to make this cold case worth it to tell

1312
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: her or she's going to be pissed. So like, how

1313
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: do I make this the cold case story that Karen

1314
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: is like okay hearing? Yeah, And that's when I know

1315
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be like a good episode or a

1316
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: good story that I tell.

1317
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're each other's perfect audience. Yeah, Because then it's

1318
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: like you're, you know, come along with me where I

1319
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: bring you into my British victoryan eighteen hundreds thing that

1320
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: you don't care about, but I'm gonna make you care.

1321
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: But I do now I do.

1322
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: I mean it is like yeah, like you know, to

1323
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: be totally transparent. There have been times when we have

1324
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: not been getting along, and then we'll record and I'll go, fuck,

1325
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: that's so special, like fuck, we're so good together, and

1326
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: it's just like undeniable and it just softens part of you.

1327
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1328
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: Also to me, it's funny because I feel like the

1329
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: not getting along has always been, oh, are you having

1330
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: trouble doing your gigantic business with the person you met

1331
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: four months ago? Like every time I would be upset

1332
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: or frustrated or whatever, it would be like, who has

1333
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: ever done a situation like this well and gracefully the

1334
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: whole time? And like with complete unity. It's like, not

1335
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: getting along is how you get through a thing like that,

1336
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: And it's basically saying you're of your opinion. I have

1337
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: my opinion. Can we get together and decide what's best

1338
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: for this third thing which is not either of us.

1339
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: It's this thing.

1340
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: Which we both fucking care about so much, and you

1341
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: can't fight over a thing you're both so passionate about.

1342
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: I do think both of us having older sisters very.

1343
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 5: Fun to say, Like the sister element was such a

1344
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 5: reoccurring theme. Yes, both of you having older sisters.

1345
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: For sure, but it's also the worst version because no

1346
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: little sister wants to be older sistered by somebody else.

1347
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: So we've gone through our whole lives being absolutely oppressed

1348
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: by our older sisters in some ways. And so then

1349
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: when you start hearing the older sister tone, which I love,

1350
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: I know exactly how to copy my sister's voice, you know,

1351
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: in that thing of like, it took me way too

1352
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: long to realize that's exactly what Orga doesn't want to hear.

1353
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: So like that's not going to convince her of anything.

1354
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: That's actually going to push her the other.

1355
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: Direction, trigger me into like all my bad habits. Yeah,

1356
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: that happened when I get you know well.

1357
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: And also when it's like what we're fighting about is

1358
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: not who's going to drive to the party, it's this

1359
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: thing that's highly impactful and there's all these people waiting

1360
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: to see and money and pressure and decisions, and it's like, yeah,

1361
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: And also we have to get through this.

1362
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 5: We have to get it.

1363
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter how bad.

1364
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: Every week, you know, i still have to come meet

1365
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: up on a Monday.

1366
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm fucking tell each other stories.

1367
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 5: No, there was no Christmas or New Year's off. It

1368
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 5: was like back then you had to do a podcast everywhere,

1369
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 5: know it, like summer off like nothing.

1370
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: Because the second you even got slightly popular, that's when

1371
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: people were like, I think we one time did it

1372
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: on a different day.

1373
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, because the Golden State Killer press conference we

1374
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 5: waited to in the morning.

1375
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: He even knows exactly like that very specifically.

1376
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 5: I remember it because we were like, no, we should

1377
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 5: watch this, and then we recorded it like around noon

1378
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 5: and then I got it up like by four on

1379
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 5: a Thursday.

1380
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: But you sure did hear about it?

1381
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1382
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 5: No, there was. I mean back in the day, it

1383
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 5: was like if something was late, or it was like,

1384
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 5: oh god, what's happening? Are they okay? Can we do

1385
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 5: a wellness check?

1386
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: Like yes, it would be me and you talking at

1387
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: seven thirty in the morning because I look at Twitter

1388
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: and people would be like I don't know, no, no, no,

1389
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: it's my automatic thing. Or and then I'd be like

1390
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: Stephen did something bad happen.

1391
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 5: Like first, the first asleep at the computer, I woke up.

1392
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: At eleven o'clock in the morning. You guys would have

1393
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: fixed it, So I don't care.

1394
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: Everybody.

1395
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: Hey, I just woke up. What's happening?

1396
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: And then the fighting begins?

1397
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well but.

1398
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 5: Again no physical violence, I can confirm nobody, no hair pulling,

1399
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 5: no Nothingverever.

1400
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: We've always been able to come back to our senses.

1401
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: In some way.

1402
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: I've broken some of her ship secretly.

1403
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I come home. All the mirrors in

1404
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: my house are broken. This is crazy.

1405
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 5: Well, I mean we're counting down at three, and I

1406
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 5: feel like the catchphrase is, you know the mfmism stay

1407
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 5: sexy to like, well, what point do you remember like

1408
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: when people were like saying things back at you. Were

1409
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 5: you surprised by like what the stuff was that people

1410
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 5: were like, fuck politeness, the things that were catching on

1411
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 5: or putting on a T shirt.

1412
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember the first time someone ever yelled

1413
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: stay sexy at me out of a car in San

1414
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: Francisco on hate like in the you know, maybe Vince

1415
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: and I had just gotten married or like for some reason,

1416
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: we were in northern California and some fucking girl yelled

1417
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: stay sexy driving by, and I just screamed and don't

1418
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: get murdered, like in.

1419
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: The middle of a fucking like public place.

1420
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: So like it is still a little bit like you

1421
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: kind of have to whisper it, you know, because it

1422
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: sounds crazy. Like this girl at a gym recently who

1423
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: worked there, who was so lovely. She was like helping me, like,

1424
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: cancel my membership because I don't go back.

1425
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: What do you mean you're at the gym I.

1426
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: Was canceling that I had paid for for six months,

1427
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: had never gone to. And she was so lovely and

1428
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: swedened on the way out, she was like.

1429
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 5: Stay sexy.

1430
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: Damn it, what did you tell me what they're going?

1431
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: I had a yell, don't get murdered at a gym.

1432
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's all, but that's a great like final line. Yeah,

1433
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: be like and by you guys, you will not see

1434
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: me back here. I think I've told the story a

1435
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: million times, but it really was very affecting because having

1436
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: already lived in Los Angeles, you know, trying to make

1437
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: it in Los Angeles for at that point fifteen years

1438
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: or more, and sitting getting my nails done in Silver

1439
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: Lake near the ninety nine cents store, and it was

1440
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: that kind of thing where it's like I always feel

1441
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: so self conscious getting my nails done, where I'm.

1442
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: Like here, like it whatever, me me look pretty.

1443
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: And like in the middle she was done, but I

1444
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: was in the middle, and she this girl just walked

1445
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: up and went stay sexy and ran and truly literally

1446
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: ran out, like I was going to be like shut

1447
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: the fuck. And then I was like, this is perfect

1448
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: because no, people don't yell at me. They're always like,

1449
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: I know, you don't want to talk to me and

1450
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: run away. And I'm like, whatever I've done to make

1451
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: it be like this, this is my dream come true.

1452
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: I get all the glory, but it's all real quiet,

1453
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: not embarrassing.

1454
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: And I think that was so cool about the book too,

1455
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: is that we got because every chapter is a you know,

1456
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 2: one of our things that for some reason people held

1457
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: on to, like fuck polite and stay out of the forest,

1458
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: and so like getting to write a chapter about what

1459
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: that means to us was so cool because there are

1460
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: a lot of them that yeah, we we don't even

1461
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: know there are a thing, and tell someone else makes

1462
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: art about it.

1463
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the art that someone made for Live laugh. Learned

1464
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: to Levitape. That was the first one. It was on

1465
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: the Facebook page, Rip Steven. You did a lot of

1466
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: hard work for that Facebook page, but that the person

1467
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: who made it. It was this beautiful, very modern looking, you know,

1468
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: very aesthetic Live Leaf learned to Levitape, where when I

1469
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: first looked at it, I was like, what's this and

1470
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh my god, that's George's quote And

1471
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: it made me laugh so hard because they did that,

1472
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: like it's this goofy quote that makes no sense on

1473
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: a thing that looks like it's supposed to be.

1474
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 3: You'd buy it home goods or something, yes, exactly.

1475
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,440
Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh my god, these people get it.

1476
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: They get it, like down to the bump.

1477
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: They have a sense of humor.

1478
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: They're so funny.

1479
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they're so it's talented. Yeah, like what a combination.

1480
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 5: Even like stay Saved to God's Missions, I feel like

1481
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 5: that became such a fun people like when whenever we'd

1482
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 5: hear people telling.

1483
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: That, yeah, we see that all like yeah, they'll like

1484
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: it's like folklore almost, like what was the folklore that's

1485
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: come out of this podcast? And it's like kind of

1486
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: just we wouldn't know what it is, just talking about

1487
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: it unless someone made a fucking shirt out of it.

1488
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. And also just because you can have

1489
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: Christians involved in this podcast, you wouldn't think you could,

1490
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: but you just s SDGM in a different way. You

1491
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: stay saved and you do God's missions.

1492
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 5: Do you remember the first time we saw Nick Terry

1493
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: that was it was either I'm trying to remember it

1494
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 5: was either cocaine bear or you know, Swiss cheese purple

1495
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: in it right, like there's the Greenland shark like there

1496
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 5: is I think.

1497
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: It was a Swiss cheese pro it was cheese.

1498
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 3: It was so funny, it was it was I was speechless.

1499
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean I still am every time I see one now,

1500
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, he makes me feel so funny when

1501
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,480
Speaker 2: I watch like he makes me like wow, I'm like,

1502
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: I say, funny shit just because Nick Terry puts, you know,

1503
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 2: hilarious animation to whatever dumb stuff we say.

1504
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: We really lucked out with Nick Terry and his ability

1505
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: and willingness basically to do this with us, and he

1506
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: has done it for so long now.

1507
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, you guys, go look up

1508
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: MFM animated.

1509
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: It is just joyful it's joyful.

1510
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like he captures though, even though again

1511
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 5: they weren't video podcasts at that time, like the one

1512
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 5: learning about the snakes in the walls and you care

1513
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 5: like that's what you were doing on the couch like somehow.

1514
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: So like even Vince's beard colors are so spot on.

1515
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: I definitely want to get a tattoo of Vince as

1516
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: Nick Terry's MFM animated how crazy.

1517
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 3: Couples tattoos of each other all the.

1518
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: Way down your ribs.

1519
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: I got Elvis MFM animated Elvis.

1520
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: Also just the random story but of the girl that

1521
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: was going into the candy shop who ends up going

1522
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: like this is like the way he did it. Yeah,

1523
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: you just have to see it. It's just magical and

1524
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,839
Speaker 1: so fun because being a stand up comic from the nineties,

1525
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: I was raised to at least act like I hated

1526
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: everything I did and judge it and you couldn't ever

1527
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: be braggy. That was the worst thing in the world.

1528
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: And just being like this, it's like Nick Terry did it.

1529
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. So I just like, watch this.

1530
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: It's so good, but it's it's really not really you,

1531
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: So it's okay. Yeah, exactly he did it.

1532
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 5: I mean you brought up Elvis, but I mean MFM

1533
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 5: Pets number two, MFM Pets. I mean it's a real menagerie.

1534
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 5: I mean you both have the years, that's right.

1535
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that that is a part of the podcast,

1536
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, like Elvis meeling at the end of the

1537
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: episodes that was like a couple episodes in even Yeah,

1538
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: it's just kind of an accidental thing because we needed

1539
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: a funny button at the end of a depressing thing.

1540
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: So and I feel like it's kind of a thing

1541
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: now to have your pet as part of the podcast. Yeah,

1542
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 2: but we were just I just have always loved hearing

1543
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: him now, and I was like, let's send on this

1544
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: thing that makes me happy.

1545
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 3: But then yeah, then all are pets now.

1546
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: Like I have so much fan art of my animals,

1547
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: and like it brings me so much fucking joy.

1548
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: We have had so many beautiful renderings of our animals

1549
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: or hilarious renderings. I just remembered there was one I

1550
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: wanted to get a picture of and I didn't, which

1551
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: is Frankin Blossom. Currently. Oh my god, that the two

1552
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: bottom ones I have on my shelves in the front room.

1553
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 3: I have this on my wall.

1554
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean gorgeous. That's like there's people that would pay

1555
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars for that and you just had someone

1556
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: bring them to us.

1557
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: It's the look of like like that is what we mean,

1558
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: that's the face she makes.

1559
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 3: It's not just like a cat, a Calico cat.

1560
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: That literally is me, me all mad and george yeah,

1561
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: rip yeah, I know. It's so crazy. And also then

1562
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: to have this gorgeous artwork of a dog that like

1563
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: that's the thing about pets specially, it's special and it's

1564
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: short term. And to have something like that in cartoon version,

1565
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: like in all these versions and people being like, here,

1566
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: this matters to you, and this is the thing I

1567
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: can do, like.

1568
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, these are like dolls almost.

1569
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 3: This is from Mighty Pigeon, who is like an early art.

1570
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 5: Sixteen, very early, like.

1571
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: Just ringing it so hard. Yeah, those were I mean,

1572
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: I would get that tattooed if I were a tattooed person.

1573
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: There was one I'd love to.

1574
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: I said once that Elvis's had smelled like a library book,

1575
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: and so I loved the smell of his head, which

1576
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: now I look back and it's like probably just cat

1577
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: litter smell. But someone drew a picture of Elvis of

1578
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: Elvis with it. Oh oh, this one is gorgeous. This

1579
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: is actually huge and it's all made out of like

1580
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: paper mache.

1581
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: Those are all pieces of paper. Wow, like a magazine.

1582
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: That's incredible. We'll put all of these names on social

1583
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: media so that everyone gets there.

1584
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 3: Ye on social media. That is up. Like when you

1585
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 3: walk in my front door, that is front and center.

1586
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: Gorgeous art. That's the other thing. It's like, it is

1587
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: this gorgeous art work.

1588
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: I didn't think I'd ever be able to have so

1589
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: much art on my walls and it's all like it's all.

1590
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: When we were like, oh yeah, we should show all

1591
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: of the artwork that we have at home, I was

1592
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: thinking in my head it was like, oh those two

1593
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: like illustrations of them, and there's like two more. There's

1594
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: like eleven. I have so much of it around my house. Yeah,

1595
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: it's really good. Wait are there more? Can we look

1596
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: at more?

1597
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 4: Oh? God?

1598
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1599
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: Wow?

1600
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: And what does it say?

1601
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: Can you read these? I love you now? Fuck off?

1602
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 3: That is like what so much?

1603
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: Tu?

1604
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: It really looks like that's coming up next George and Frank.

1605
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 3: I would watch that so good anymore? Oh, This is

1606
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: from Scarlett River. She is so toir.

1607
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,959
Speaker 2: I also have a plate that she like, a Victorian

1608
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: plate that she wrote politeness on in my bathroom, of

1609
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: all places. But this picture of Dottie that she painted

1610
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: is hute. It I just stare.

1611
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 3: At it sometimes. It makes me so happy.

1612
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good.

1613
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: Oh.

1614
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: And then that's a pillow of Dotty that someone gave me.

1615
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: And this adorable drawing of somehow Dottie is like super

1616
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: photogenic for art, I don't know.

1617
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god.

1618
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: It's really good. This series. This is the one that's

1619
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: all my dad's refrigerator and it looks like Frank smoking

1620
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: a cigar and it's such such beautiful. I think it's

1621
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: water color.

1622
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

1623
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: It's incredible. I love it, like watercolor is the hardest. Yeah.

1624
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: Wow, look at them all together. No, I think they

1625
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: get along.

1626
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: Here in the Alive, is there one of blossom and

1627
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: mo just so we can make sure that the new

1628
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: ones get get a shout out too?

1629
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: I know I don't have one of blossoms because I

1630
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: forgot to take the picture.

1631
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 3: Is there one? Though?

1632
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: It's a blossom and Frank here? And then George is

1633
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: in the middle wearing a halo stop and it's like

1634
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: and they have really funny eyes that are very accurate,

1635
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: like Blossom's eye looks like she's panicking, and then Frank's

1636
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: kind of like eye roll.

1637
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 5: Do you think it also made people want to share

1638
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: pet stories because I feel like that was so fun

1639
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 5: and I think you know, between the most heartbreaking and

1640
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 5: harrowing tales in the hometowns, we'd get pet hero stories, yes.

1641
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: And then you got a lot of Penny Lane art, right,

1642
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 2: Penny Lane, Yeah.

1643
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 5: I mean they're all hanging out having Martini.

1644
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: Something that's right, George just trying to eat Penny Lane

1645
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: as she's not a friendly dogs, not a nice dog.

1646
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 5: I think we're at number one, Oh my god. I

1647
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 5: mean obviously the Murderinos number one. The community, come.

1648
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: On, come on, yeah, Like that's it.

1649
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: It's we would not be anywhere without the people that listen,

1650
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: not only listen to this podcast, but cared enough to

1651
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: send us that stuff. Be on that Facebook page every

1652
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 1: single morning posting memes.

1653
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean the live shows I have people have asked

1654
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 2: me like, do you get weird experiences with weird fans

1655
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: or whatever, and I'm like, knock, on wood should maybe

1656
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't be saying it. I have never fucking not felt

1657
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: awesome after meeting a person who comes up to me

1658
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: in public. It's never been anything but fucking cool.

1659
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1660
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 5: Do you ever experience this where somebody says hi, and

1661
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 5: you're like, do I know you?

1662
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: I know the look? Now do you know the look

1663
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: a little bit?

1664
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: But I have to say this, this was really embarrassing.

1665
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: Over Christmas break, I went into a store and it

1666
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: was freezing cold as it's been so in some other store.

1667
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: I bought like a stocking cap and put it on,

1668
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: folded it up because I was I was freezing. And

1669
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: then I went into the next door and I was like, oh,

1670
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 1: I think I think they listen to the podcast am

1671
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: talking and talking and then whatever. And then I go

1672
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: home and I go into the bathroom and my stocking

1673
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: cap was standing up.

1674
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: Like it was in the cat.

1675
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: Yes, it was the tallest hat. So it was like

1676
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: I walked into the store like, hey, can I get it?

1677
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: Was the it was raised delie. I was ordering a

1678
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: sandwich and I was like, Oh, this person knows whay

1679
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: im And it's like, no, they don't. Just the tallest

1680
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: stocking hat like a turkey sandwich on it.

1681
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 5: Whatever I mean, I can tell though, Like, yeah, well

1682
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 5: I was gonna say I like the experience and I

1683
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 5: feel like the relationship you've built with people when you

1684
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 5: were both right like on a flight, like waiting to

1685
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 5: leave somewhere and some people took a selfie and like

1686
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 5: with you behind and you took a selfie back, Like

1687
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 5: just say to people at ease all the time, like

1688
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 5: we like the same stuff, We're passionate about the same things.

1689
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 5: Let's just like gab about back for five minutes. You know.

1690
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: When this stops happening, that's the problem. When people are

1691
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: like I'm so starting to bother you.

1692
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're not fucking bothering me. Like I have

1693
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: I'm here because of you. I have what I have

1694
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: because of you.

1695
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, yeah, we're It's not like we were

1696
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: two young actresses on a hit sitcom or something like that.

1697
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: It's like we first of all, you know, worked for

1698
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: years trying to get to a place like this, both

1699
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: of us, and then got it. And then I think

1700
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: very much kept each other aware of what we had

1701
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: and how lucky we were to have it, and like

1702
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: I think that piece, you know, I'm grateful to you

1703
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: for keeping the gratitude kind of like front and center,

1704
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: because that piece of it really is like if you

1705
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: just start believing that this is we somehow figured out

1706
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: something that's crazy because it came as surprisingly and as

1707
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of like a wave. It's just it wasn't our doing,

1708
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: or we were doing this thing over here. And they

1709
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: showed up, assembled themselves, started doing subgroups. Oh we're murderinos

1710
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: that also have really bad allergies or whatever the fuck,

1711
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: and people basically organize themselves.

1712
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 5: Meet up later after shows. Now are friends for life.

1713
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 5: People are best friends because after meeting after shows, right and.

1714
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: They say, like in the car, and it's like, I

1715
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: feel like we all accomplished this together. And it totally

1716
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: does feel like that, like we all we're all a

1717
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 2: little like ten years because it's four it's all of ours.

1718
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: It's not, yeah, we're not actresses. We didn't get casts

1719
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 2: to do this. And then people come up to us

1720
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: and they say, I feel like I know you, and

1721
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm always like you fucking do because we've told you

1722
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: literally everything about ourselves.

1723
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing worse than telling a story. I told

1724
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: Alison and Nicole a story today and as I was

1725
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: telling it, I was like, but you both know that

1726
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: because I've told this on the show before. It's like,

1727
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: I literally have about seventeen stories and I've told them

1728
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 1: all on this goddamn podcast.

1729
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: You know what gives me away every time having a

1730
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: really tall husband, people see him and go oh, and

1731
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: then they're like, like, I get noticed because I have

1732
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: a really tall husband with a you know, distinctive beard

1733
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: and everything, Like I saw VI and then I saw you.

1734
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,520
Speaker 3: When you're you're with it, I'm like, I know, yeah,

1735
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's and you can see the face. There's

1736
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: a face they make this face.

1737
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: And then because it's podcasting, so it's not like they

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Speaker 1: recognize you immediately.

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01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: Right, and then you go h You know, there's been

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: half as many times as someone comes up to me,

1741
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: I've said to them like, hi, you know, I've initiated

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01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: it because I can tell or they have.

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01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 3: A shirt on my favorite murder shirt on or something

1744
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 3: like that.

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: And because you don't wear tall hats, so you know,

1746
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: you know for a fact that's what the face is. Right,

1747
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: I'll doubt it for the rest of my life.

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01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I'm trying to think there's anything else.

1749
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 5: I can't believe it.

1750
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: Stephen, what's your favorite memory? Do you have a favorite memory?

1751
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean I think just having a

1752
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 5: space where I feel like being trusted so much. I

1753
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 5: mean the idea that we it was the three of us,

1754
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 5: and it was like you let me edit this show

1755
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 5: and then put it out without anyone else looking at it.

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01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 5: It was like a lot of trust. Like I'm really

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01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 5: grateful for that. I feel like it really. I mean again,

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01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 5: I feel like I've learned so much from the both

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01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 5: of you, and like that stuff that sticks with me

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01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 5: even now, Like that's a confidence was say, by the way, we're.

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Going to take Yeah, I got it.

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01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.

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01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: It is funny you and what we were saying before

1764
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: you got here, like you did actually experience all of

1765
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: this the craziness in the beginning with us. It's like

1766
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: you us, and you and Vins are the only people

1767
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: who were like going what the all of us were like,

1768
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 2: what's happening?

1769
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: What is this?

1770
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: It's a very like small little special group that will

1771
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: never you know, no one will ever be able to understnion.

1772
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: We'll put the uptos edit that out please right now.

1773
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here.

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 5: I love you, guys, ask me back about you.

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01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. You really you gave it

1776
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: your all and then some and will always be so

1777
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: grateful for the job you did for us.

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 5: And now I go back into my slumber for another

1779
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 5: seventeen years. Yeah, thank you.

1780
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 3: Jeez. See Ray Morris, what a special moment that was.

1781
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: That was really like old home week.

1782
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: I love that.

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01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: And also him being here made me remember things that

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01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I haven't thought.

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01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 3: Of in so long, and he remembered way more than

1786
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: I did, I know.

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01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a different point of view.

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01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so awesome. Should we do our last segment?

1789
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 2: We were going to do something called then and Now.

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01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: So basically because it's been ten years and people have

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01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: been doing this in the emails that they've been sending

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01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: us for hometowns and stuff, where basically we've been talking

1793
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: about how it's been ten years and like what's changed.

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01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: So we asked people to send in basically what their

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01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: life has been like these past ten years.

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01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, where were you then when you started listening? And

1797
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 3: where are you now?

1798
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Go first?

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01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: Sure, this is from Calpi on Instagram. Then Single, struggling, Static,

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01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: now blossoming, living.

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01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 3: And married to the man I met at fifty.

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: Ooh, I know that's beautiful.

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01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 3: That's sweet.

1805
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: This one's from Elasta Mom four one seven and it

1806
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: says I was in cancer treatment when I found you

1807
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. Now I'm ten years cancer free.

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01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh my god. Yeah, wow, that's fucking incredible.

1809
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: That must have been so fucking scary. And it's like

1810
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: to be able to report that news. I hope that

1811
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: felt great. Elasta Mom God.

1812
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: Marissa Rebas says I was twenty one getting out of

1813
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: a toxic relationship. Now I'm twenty seven, married and a professor.

1814
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you became a professor in the time

1815
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,839
Speaker 1: you were like to us. No, I was a professor

1816
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: the whole time. Oh right, no, just kidding. Just let's say.

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: This one's from Anne mw MSN and it says I

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01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: was a polite forty year old. Then now I'm a

1819
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: fifty year old who regularly fox politeness.

1820
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 3: Yes, great, love it.

1821
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: Zella Kel says d one listener one listenery that says

1822
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: grad school forensic scientists for military biologist at CDC. Now, whoa,

1823
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: we have a friend at the CDC inside at the CDCY.

1824
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 3: Hell.

1825
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Yes, this is from Kirsty JC five, and it says

1826
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: I was starting a new scary, male dominated work industry.

1827
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm thriving in the industry. Yeah, hell yes, Oh

1828
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: rodeo clown.

1829
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 3: Do we have any rodeo clowns that listen?

1830
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: Please write in, Please write in if you do.

1831
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: S rapper Kins something says i was sixteen years old,

1832
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: just starting community college. Now I'm twenty six year old

1833
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: professional ASL interpreter.

1834
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 3: Whoa we have smart listeners?

1835
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah we do. This is from bird dot SOF and

1836
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: it says in twenty sixteen, I was a sophomore in

1837
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: high school. Now I teach sophomores. Oh my god, what

1838
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 1: a turn. Let's circle always in sophomore year though nightmare

1839
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: maybe the worst arguably actually well, you know, hopefully be

1840
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: nice to those sophomore Okay.

1841
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: This is from Carolyn Marie s. She says skinny dipping

1842
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 2: in my college apartments pool versus drinking wine while hiding

1843
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: from my kids.

1844
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: This one is Christina Kaye, I think, and it says

1845
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: in a cult versus not in a cult? What a change?

1846
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: Were you in a cult at any point? Listening to

1847
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: this podcast? Right to us at my favorite Murder at

1848
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Gmail we need to know everything.

1849
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: Please tell us everything. We'll do a crossover with trust me.

1850
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 3: That's right.

1851
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: My last one could have been written by me. It's

1852
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: by we Amy and it says then normal now perry

1853
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: menopausele as hell.

1854
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 3: Yes, same.

1855
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: My last one is Brandon Narski and it says single, broke, unhappy.

1856
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: Now I'm still broke, not as unhappy.

1857
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 3: Lol. Oh good.

1858
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: We're not looking for huge changes, you know.

1859
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 3: Just to do jack shit in ten years.

1860
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: We just yeah and survive with us.

1861
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, just basically listen to our tagline

1862
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: and try to do that.

1863
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: That's true. We have our own ven and now our

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01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: ven and now is that? Then we were two gals

1865
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: in an unconditioned apartment, unair conditioned or with unconditioned hair,

1866
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: with unconditional love in our hearts and.

1867
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 2: No makeup, don't care about what I'm wearing or a

1868
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: lot of house dresses.

1869
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's the picture there. We are that

1870
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: is truly what it looked like and felt like to

1871
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 1: record literally at Georgia's apartment.

1872
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 2: I think that the thing behind me that looks like

1873
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: a big machinery thing is a portable air conditioner that

1874
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 2: I tried to get to work, but I had a

1875
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: slide and glass door, so it wouldn't work, and it

1876
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: was too loud to use during the fucking recording anyways.

1877
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: So you just put your short shorts on and you said,

1878
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: let's do this thing.

1879
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 2: I used to be able to record in house closed,

1880
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: and I do I do miss that. Just a lot

1881
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: of ass and a lot of feet going on, and

1882
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot of cheekbone from Karen.

1883
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: That's right. I wasn't afraid to suck my cheeks in

1884
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: and take a selfie every once in a while. So

1885
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: that was us. Then now we're here, and the exciting

1886
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: thing is we're on Netflix.

1887
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,480
Speaker 3: We're on fucking Netflix.

1888
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: This podcast as a video podcast is going to be

1889
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: on Netflix.

1890
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Now, exclusively on Netflix. It happened really fast, so I

1891
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 2: didn't really have like a lot of time to absorb it.

1892
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, we're just our videos moving

1893
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: to Netflix. Nothing is really changing that much. But the

1894
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 2: amount of people I got that like I know, that

1895
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: reached out that were like Netflix congress, like and this

1896
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 2: is just like, oh, we're just moving to Netflix.

1897
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: We've been people. It's like a Netflix. It's the only

1898
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: thing my dad watches. It's a very big deal. He

1899
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: might actually pay attention to the show.

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01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 2: From how on, my stepdad sent me a photo of

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01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: the graphic us on Netflix, so she's never done.

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 3: I didn't even know he knew how to do that.

1903
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: So we're not going to be changing at all. Audience, No,

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01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: that was a joke. Being on camera for Netflik, I

1905
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 1: just flashed my tis. Well, we're very happy to be here,

1906
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: and thank you to our listeners for getting us here

1907
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: and for being with us while we got here.

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01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: Now, we couldn't have done it without you. We appreciate

1909
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: you guys so fucking much. So do us a favor

1910
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 2: and stay sexy and don't get murdered.

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01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 3: Goodbye, Elvis, Do you want a cookie?

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01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.

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01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer

1914
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: is Tessa Hughes.

1915
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Our editor is Aristotle ass Vedo.

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01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 3: This episode was mixed by Leona Scuolacci.

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01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Our researchers are Mary mclatchan and Ali Elkin.

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01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Email your hometowns to My Favorite Murder at gmail dot.

1919
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Com and follow the show on Instagram at my Favorite Murder.

1920
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,679
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1921
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

1922
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: Or you can watch us on YouTube. Search for my

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01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: favorite murder, then like and subscribe five