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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily a body here bringing you Episode one

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Speaker 2: nine of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I sit

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Speaker 2: down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from their

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Speaker 2: big wins to how they've gotten through some of life's

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Speaker 2: toughest moments. On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation,

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Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your

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Speaker 2: the way. Today, for episode one thirty nine, I am

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Speaker 2: chatting with Mindy Grossman. She is the CEO and president

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Speaker 1: The number one hashtag is hashtag NSV non scale victory.

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Speaker 1: when I was three days old. And from the day

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Speaker 1: but over the course of my growing up, my parents

440
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Speaker 1: always telling me, you know, you can do anything you want,

441
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Speaker 1: you can achieve anything you want. You know, it's up

442
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Speaker 1: to you, and you'll have the support. And I remember

443
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Speaker 1: at some point having it crystallized for me that if

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Speaker 1: I was given this gift, it was up to me

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Speaker 1: to use that gift. To make an impact, and my

446
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Speaker 1: ultimate goal was to be successful enough whatever that meant

447
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Speaker 1: that I could then pay that gift forward and do

448
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Speaker 1: for other people what I had the benefit of. So

449
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Speaker 1: I was pretty serious growing up. I ended up finishing

450
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Speaker 1: high school as a junior, went right into college planning

451
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Speaker 1: to be a lawyer. I got engaged when I was

452
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Speaker 1: nineteen to my high school sweetheart, so you know, the

453
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Speaker 1: path was all there. And then in my last semester

454
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Speaker 1: senior year of college, I really had an epiphany and said, no,

455
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is the right path. I thought

456
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Speaker 1: it was, but I've given a lot of thought to

457
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Speaker 1: my future and really what I want, and I want

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Speaker 1: to take a different path. So if you can imagine

459
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Speaker 1: calling your parents and saying I have something to tell you.

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Speaker 1: I've decided not to get married. I'm breaking my engagement.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to law school in the fall, and

462
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Speaker 1: I'm actually leaving right now and I'm moving to New

463
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Speaker 1: York and I'm going to find a different path. There

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Speaker 1: was silence at the other end of the phone, if

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, but I knew I was doing the

466
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Speaker 1: right thing, and in the you know, nineteen seventy seven,

467
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Speaker 1: I picked up and moved to New York City and said,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to find the path that's right for me.

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Speaker 1: I know, I want a business path, but I want

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Speaker 1: something creatively charged. And you know, the lesson from all

471
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Speaker 1: of that that shaped my career, to be quite honest,

472
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Speaker 1: is that you know, risk taking in boldness is the

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Speaker 1: essence of transformation, and sometimes not taking the risk is riskier.

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Speaker 1: And if you have a vision and you have a

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Speaker 1: belief and you've really thought that through of what's going

476
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Speaker 1: to be right for you, you need to move forward.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that decision I made, as you know,

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Speaker 1: well unusual as other people thought it was, was unquestionably

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Speaker 1: the right one for me. And it set me on

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Speaker 1: a path that allowed me, over the course of those years,

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Speaker 1: to affect transformation and to build businesses and to motivate others.

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Speaker 1: And I look back and that moment, you know, was

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Speaker 1: a pivotal moment of both my life and my career.

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Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to y

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Speaker 2: All about athletic greens. It's funny because I've been talking

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Speaker 2: about athletic greens and taking athletic greens for some time now.

487
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Speaker 3: As you know, greens.

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Speaker 2: Powder has the anti accident equivalent to twelve servings of

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Speaker 2: fruits and vegetables, as well as probiotics and probiotics and

490
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Speaker 2: adaptogens and superfoods.

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Speaker 3: It's got a lot of good stuff in there.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's like my immunity insurance to help my

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Speaker 2: body perform at its top best level all the time. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I've been talking about this stuff for a while now,

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Speaker 2: but lately the questions are pouring in. Two of most

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Speaker 2: popular questions, one, what does it taste like? Well, I

497
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Speaker 2: can tell you what it doesn't taste like. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: taste like grass like you might be used to with

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Speaker 2: other green beverages.

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Speaker 3: This it just tastes good.

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Speaker 2: It has a hint of sweetness without that yucky aftertaste.

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Speaker 2: And the second most popular question, what do you mix

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Speaker 2: it with? I am big on just shaking it up

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Speaker 2: with an ice cube and ten to twelve ounces of

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Speaker 2: water in the morning. I've heard that individuals love to

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Speaker 2: And you talk about it as though like it's the

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Speaker 2: perfect script for a blockbuster movie. I think so many

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Speaker 2: individuals hear what you're saying about.

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Speaker 3: You know, I had it all. I was engaged. I

523
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Speaker 3: know that eventually you broke off that engagement. But you then,

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Speaker 3: you know, you.

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Speaker 2: Made this decision that going to law school wasn't for you,

526
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Speaker 2: And so many people can can sympathize with that and

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Speaker 2: relate to that. But where you differ, and where a

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Speaker 2: lot of individuals I would say struggle is some would

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Speaker 2: just kind of kind of sit in their inner tube

530
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Speaker 2: and go down the river while you decided I'm jumping out,

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Speaker 2: I'm jumping ship and I'm going to figure.

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Speaker 3: This out my own way.

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Speaker 2: Was there a specific something that happened to you that

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Speaker 2: convinced you that you needed to make this pivot, or

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Speaker 2: a certain conversation you had, like, how do you, you know,

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Speaker 2: speak to someone who feels like they're just kind of

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Speaker 2: stuck in the inner tube and they don't know how

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Speaker 2: to jump ship?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think the way to really think

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Speaker 1: about it, and I think for women it's actually more challenging.

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Speaker 1: You know. I like to say that you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of men, you know, they look at an opportunity

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Speaker 1: or you know, should they do something, and they go,

544
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Speaker 1: I'll go for it. You know, what's the worst that

545
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Speaker 1: could happen? Where I think the other side of that

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Speaker 1: is the worst thing is going to happen and it's not.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a big difference between risk taking and suicide, right,

548
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Speaker 1: You need to take different risks at different time of

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Speaker 1: your life that you can kind of look and see

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Speaker 1: the vista. And I was twenty years old, and my

551
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Speaker 1: feeling was if I didn't take the risk, now, why

552
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Speaker 1: would I go so far down a path where it

553
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Speaker 1: would be harder and harder for me to make those

554
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Speaker 1: difficult choices? And you know that to me is you know,

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Speaker 1: I what I tell people, you know, there's a reason

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Speaker 1: that you have the clarity that you have to make

557
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Speaker 1: that change or that decision, and it usually does not

558
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Speaker 1: happen overnight. You know, it's something that you've definitely been

559
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: thinking of and then the moment comes where you do

560
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Speaker 1: have to make a final decision because the time frame

561
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Speaker 1: is such that you need to do that. And that's

562
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Speaker 1: what happened to me. And you know, I moved to

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Speaker 1: New York and I started looking at a number of

564
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Speaker 1: different industries media in this landscape, being one in the

565
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Speaker 1: fashion industry being the other. And you know, I had

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to go be the assistant to the president

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Speaker 1: of an international division of a large men'swear company. And

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Speaker 1: it's a funny story. When I was in my interview,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was asking me all these questions and

570
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Speaker 1: at one point he said, well, do you take shorthand

571
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Speaker 1: I said, no, I take fast, long hand. And you know,

572
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Speaker 1: I got the job. But I do think it's another

573
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Speaker 1: example of don't focus on what you can't do, focus

574
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Speaker 1: on what you can contribute and be creative with that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's another learning throughout my career is

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Speaker 1: what is the problem someone is trying to solve and

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Speaker 1: maybe there are other ways I can solve the problem

578
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Speaker 1: and be creative and you know, look around corners and

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Speaker 1: all of those things, you know, and that's really what

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Speaker 1: started my career. I spent the first eighteen years of

581
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Speaker 1: my career and the men's wear industry. I worked there

582
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Speaker 1: for a year and realized that a woman was not

583
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Speaker 1: going to get any of the bigger opportunities and roles.

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Speaker 1: Went to work for a designer named Jeffrey Banks, and

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Speaker 1: then further went into Marona Sport. Worked for an incredible

586
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Speaker 1: designer in the eighties named Willie Smith, who was really

587
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Speaker 1: an innovator in his time around cultural influence, the intersection

588
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Speaker 1: of art and culture, one of the first real successful

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Speaker 1: black designers, as was Jeffrey and you know, really believed that,

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Speaker 1: you know, fashion came from the street up, not just

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Speaker 1: coulture down. And it reinforced for me the intersection of

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Speaker 1: culture and art and fashion and you know what that

593
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Speaker 1: could mean across multiple businesses, which we obviously seen, you know,

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Speaker 1: really develop over the course of years. Then I worked. Unfortunately,

595
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Speaker 1: Willie was one of the casualty of aids that was

596
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Speaker 1: a really difficult time in New York in certain industries,

597
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Speaker 1: really was affected by it. Then I went to work

598
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Speaker 1: for Tommy Hillfigure and really saw the trajectory of that business.

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Speaker 1: Most of my roles leading up to that were really

600
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Speaker 1: in sales and sales and merchandising. And I always say

601
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Speaker 1: to people, but the reason I was so successful in

602
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Speaker 1: sales is I never sold anything to anyone. I never

603
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Speaker 1: sold anything to anyone. What I did was look to

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Speaker 1: anticipate what people's needs were, what their motivation, What could

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Speaker 1: I do to support them and be able to service

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Speaker 1: that need with whatever product or what I was providing them.

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Speaker 1: And that's been my philosophy to this day. You know,

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Speaker 1: how can I focus on making other people successful? And

609
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Speaker 1: if I do that, I ultimately and the business ultimately

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Speaker 1: will be more successful. And that's really stayed with me

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Speaker 1: throughout my career. I then spent ten years with Ralph Lauren.

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Speaker 1: You know, I turned around Chaps for Ralph Lauren. Then

613
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Speaker 1: I ran new business development for Ralph, and then I

614
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Speaker 1: started Polo Jean's company. And I always say I have

615
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Speaker 1: such respect for any entrepreneur because you know, I did

616
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Speaker 1: a startup, but I had other people's money to do it.

617
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have to go out and raise but it

618
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: was an incredible exciting time. We took the business from

619
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Speaker 1: zero to four hundred and fifty million in a few years.

620
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Speaker 1: We got acquired by Jens New York. I made the

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Speaker 1: decision that wasn't really kind of what my next step was,

622
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Speaker 1: and got a call from a gentleman named Phil Knight.

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Speaker 3: Lit'll Phil Night.

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Speaker 1: He had just come back into Nike to build a

625
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Speaker 1: new executive team and relaunch you know, the vision and

626
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Speaker 1: the purpose of the organization. And I was so excited

627
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Speaker 1: to join, but really couldn't move for a lot of reasons.

628
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Speaker 1: My family to Portland, and so I had to turn

629
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Speaker 1: it down, which I was devastated about. And what's very

630
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Speaker 1: special about him he called me back and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, can we make it work. We're willing to

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Speaker 1: make it work if you are. And at the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was married, I had my daughter, you know,

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Speaker 1: who was about eight or nine I think at the time,

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Speaker 1: and we all decided that we were going to work

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Speaker 1: as a family to support me and you know, have

637
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Speaker 1: this experience. So thinking I would probably commute for a

638
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Speaker 1: short period of time, I ended up taking over their

639
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Speaker 1: global apparel business, starting their first women's leadership council, really

640
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Speaker 1: being a voice for diversity within the company. And I

641
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: was there for six years, so kind of crazy, you know,

642
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: communing between New York and Portland and out of the

643
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Speaker 1: country thirty percent of the time. But it was an

644
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Speaker 1: incredible and exciting opportunity to be part of, you know,

645
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: the new phase of the organization when they launched their

646
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: new mission to bring inspiration and innovation to every athlete

647
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: if you have a body, you're an athlete, and really

648
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Speaker 1: democratizing really what sport and what athletics was, and a

649
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Speaker 1: lot of learnings from that, certainly in my business today,

650
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Speaker 1: but around the democratization of wellness. But after six years,

651
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: my daughter was getting older and I realized that it

652
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: was time. I was ready to be a CEO. But

653
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Speaker 1: you know, when you've had such a great experience, where

654
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Speaker 1: are you going to go? And you know, I'm a

655
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Speaker 1: big believer in list making, really right down and think

656
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: truly what's important to you at any given period of time.

657
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: It's not just who approaches you or what opportunities come

658
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: to you. What is the lens you're really looking through,

659
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: or what I like to call your purpose filter, and

660
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: for me, I knew I wanted a business that could

661
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: take advantage of what was really happening in the world.

662
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: I had the experience being in Japan and being in

663
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: China and seeing the dynamic growth of technology and mobile

664
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Speaker 1: and how people were interfacing with content in a very

665
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: different way. The media landscape is changing, Brands were becoming

666
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: distribution captives, so the ability to find a way to

667
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: reach new audience, and I wanted a business that could

668
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: be transformed, but that had scale. And I had the

669
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Speaker 1: opportunity to be approached to run Barry Diller's retail portfolio

670
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Speaker 1: at IAC, which included at the time Home Shopping Network

671
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: and a whole portfolio of catalog brands, and I'd really

672
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: never heard of very much of it, but I got

673
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: incredibly intrigued by the media platform and how it could

674
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: really convert into multiple technology platforms, particularly mobile, and had

675
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: the epiphany watching side by side Home Shopping Network and

676
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: Food Network that we could be a platform for editorial

677
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: program commerce, meaning why couldn't we be Food Network, DIY,

678
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: HGTV style all of these things, but actually sell the

679
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: products and storytell. Have the founders have the entrepreneurs have

680
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: the visionaries and went in and pitched Barry on the idea,

681
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: and in two thousand and six joined IAC, took the

682
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Speaker 1: company over, transformed the brand, relaunched it in the summer

683
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: of two thousand and seven, and then spun out and

684
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Speaker 1: took the company public in August two thousand and eight,

685
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: right before the world fell apart. So Emily, I always

686
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: thought that was going to be the biggest crisis of

687
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: my career until March happened.

688
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, but clearly, you know a.

689
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Speaker 1: Tremendous number of learnings that we all can apply, you know,

690
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Speaker 1: from my experience then to my experience now, and that is,

691
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Speaker 1: don't focus on what you can't do in these environments.

692
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Focus on what you can do and what you have

693
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to do. And how can you accelerate, how

694
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Speaker 1: can you invest in innovation, How can you rethink your

695
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: business coming out of this, How can you galvanize your

696
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: organization with a very very focused purpose on what it

697
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: is that you can do. You know the need for

698
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: an incredible communication and inspiration for your teams no matter

699
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: where they are. And I like to say, you know,

700
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Speaker 1: when you're going through a situation like I did in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight or over this past year. I'm

702
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: not just the CEO. I'm the chief communication officer. I'm

703
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: the chief crisis officer, and I'm the chief hope officer.

704
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, how are we going to come out of

705
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: this a stronger company? And if you look at two

706
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and if you look at the companies

707
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: who leaned in and they continue to innovate, and they

708
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: kept their organizations together, and they envisioned the future, and

709
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: they were agile, and they were nimble, and they were innovative.

710
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Those are the companies that came out stronger as opposed

711
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: to the company that got defensive and sat back and immobilized.

712
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: And I think the exact learnings of today as I

713
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: spoke about earlier on what we've been able to do

714
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: during this time. You know, it's all about the same thing.

715
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Galvanize the organization around a purpose, note that they're going

716
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: to have support, control what you can control, invest and

717
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: innovate and give people the opportunity to be agile, to

718
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: move quickly, and to be empowered, you know. And that's

719
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Speaker 1: what we did. And you know, when we came out

720
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Speaker 1: of you know, the economic crisis, HSN actually grew into

721
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine, and

722
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: not many other people, particularly in retail, could say say that,

723
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Speaker 1: you know, and really went on to build a very

724
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Speaker 1: powerful both entertainment media and you know, merchandising platform that

725
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: engage people through storytelling and you know, built community just

726
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: like we're trying to do right now, you know. And

727
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Speaker 1: after you know, ten years of being there, I really

728
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: saw another opportunity and you know, I knew that if

729
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to do you know, one more big thing

730
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: in my career, it was very important to me that

731
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Speaker 1: I not only deliver a financial return on equity, but

732
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Speaker 1: I really wanted to deliver a human return on equity.

733
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Speaker 1: And I got very, very fascinated by what was happening

734
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: in the world of health and wellness and how consumer

735
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: behavior was changing when I heard what WW or Weight

736
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: Watchers at the time was really trying to do. This

737
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: incredible company that been transforming wise for fifty five years,

738
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Speaker 1: built on the science of certainly healthy programmatic weight loss

739
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: and built on community, but in today's environment, really wanted

740
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Speaker 1: to move forward and give people all aspects of healthy behavior,

741
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Speaker 1: change and wellness, but still built on the power of community.

742
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: You know, I was so inspired to realize the kind

743
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: of impact we could make on the world, and that's

744
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Speaker 1: what really drove me to join the company and work

745
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: to really develop our new purpose and mission of inspiring

746
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: healthy habits for real life for people, families, communities, the

747
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: world for everyone, and really be that brand that could

748
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: be a partner for everyone to democratize wellness and ultimately

749
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Speaker 1: work to change the health trajectory of the world. And

750
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Speaker 1: look what we've been living through these last you know,

751
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: this last year. It just really highlights the fact that,

752
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, we need a reset and people need a

753
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: partner in that healthy living and what that means to them.

754
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Speaker 1: And it's also raised the issue of health disparities around

755
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Speaker 1: the world. So how can we also help affect that.

756
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here in all of you, I've basically hurdle

757
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: has just become the Mindy Grossman ted talk. You've done

758
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: nothing awesome in your career. I don't know why we're

759
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: having this conversation. I am beside myself because there are

760
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: so many things that I want to ask you about.

761
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Speaker 2: I think first and foremost, you mentioned while you were

762
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Speaker 2: at Nike being a huge component of the Nike Women's

763
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: Leadership Council. Obviously, someone of your position, of your veteran

764
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Speaker 2: status as a female leader and now CEO and president,

765
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Speaker 2: you are admired by many, and.

766
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Speaker 3: Many look to you for advice.

767
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: Who over the years, now, specifically woman, I would love

768
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: to ask have been the individuals that you have looked

769
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Speaker 2: to for advice and if you have a highlight to

770
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Speaker 2: offer me.

771
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Speaker 1: First of all, I have been a very outspoken advocate

772
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Speaker 1: of diversity and that it is one of the most

773
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Speaker 1: significant business and societal imperatives of anything. And if you

774
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Speaker 1: have diversity, you are going to have greater success. You're

775
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: going to be able to have the different conversations, You're

776
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: going to be able to identify the opportunities. You know,

777
00:50:52,640 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: it is just so critical. Having said that, my mentors

778
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: have been male, they've been female. They've been more senior

779
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: to me, they've been more junior to me. You know.

780
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Speaker 1: I feel that I've been very fortunate to really have

781
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: been built a authentic network of people who I want

782
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: to help succeed and inspire and in turn I learn

783
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: from them. So today, for example, I'm involved with a

784
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: lot of young female entrepreneurs and yes, I want to

785
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: give them advice and give them knowledge and experience, but

786
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: I am learning as much from them and what they're

787
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: going through in a different lifetime, right, So I think

788
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: it's very important to understand that inspiration and whether it's

789
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: informal or formal, mentorship comes in many, many different forms.

790
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: Reminds me of when I sat down with Wendy Yang.

791
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Speaker 3: By the way, do you know Wendy?

792
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: Yes, I do.

793
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: I was going to say, because you both crossed at

794
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: did you were you at Tommy Hill Figure at the

795
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: same time?

796
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: Not at the same time, but you know of one

797
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: of those. Yeah.

798
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: So when I sat down with Wendy and god, that

799
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: was episode I want to say ninety three. So it's

800
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 2: been quite a while, but she talked extensively about how

801
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: grateful she is to have mentors that are indeed younger

802
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: than her at this stage in her career, and the

803
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: opportunity to exchange ideas coming from you know, different backgrounds

804
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Speaker 2: and levels of experience.

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00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Well, I do think it's I think it's very important,

806
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: and that goes back to diversity. Of course. You know,

807
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: when we look at diversity, even in our own organization

808
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: on we look at age, gender, race, ethnicity, geography, life

809
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: stage right, and you know, how do you build both

810
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: within your organization and within your consumer base the knowledge

811
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: to be able to understand the needs right at different

812
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: points in people's lives. You know, I have to say

813
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate over the past three and a

814
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: half years, you know, when I was talking to the

815
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: company and contemplating, you know, joining, I flew out to

816
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: California and spent a day with Oprah and the big

817
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: thing for me was to really understand and you may

818
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: know that. You know, she is a board member, she

819
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: is a significant shareholder in the company, and she's an

820
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: incredible advocate and believer in the impact that we can have.

821
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Speaker 1: And I really wanted to understand what she saw and

822
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: what she believed the future and what the ultimate opportunity

823
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: was that you know, we could achieve. And if you

824
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: know any thing about Oprah, she practices the most discerning

825
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: capability of what she decides to do. Ultimate discretion is

826
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: how it would describe it. And she definitely has the

827
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: ultimate purpose filter of what she decides not to do

828
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: and what she decides to do. And that's why I

829
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: wanted to understand, and you know, we it turned out

830
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: that we were very very aligned on what we saw

831
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: as the vision of what this brand and the impact

832
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: of this brand could be. And you know, over the

833
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: past you know, three and a half years, you know,

834
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Speaker 1: I've really understood that more and more acutely from her,

835
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: and I think that is a big asset for us. All.

836
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Speaker 1: You know, at WW we have a purpose filter for

837
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: our brand, and before we make any decision, whether it's

838
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: a product decision, whether it's a hiring decison, what's a

839
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: partner decision, we ask about fifteen different questions to come

840
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: to the right conclusion, and that has served us incredibly well. Well.

841
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: I think as humans, as individuals, we each need to

842
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: have our own purpose filter of what's really important, of

843
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: what we will say yes to and what we will

844
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: say no to because of what is important and meaningful

845
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: and part of our ethos. So I think that's you know,

846
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: that's been a very big learning and I felt, you know,

847
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: I've always been somewhat that way, but I'm approaching it

848
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: with so much more rigor today.

849
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Speaker 2: If you have to describe Oprah in three words, what

850
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: are they?

851
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Three words?

852
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: Ultimate motivator, superpower, I'm trying to think of like the

853
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 4: right word to describe, you know, what Oprah has done

854
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: for the WW brand.

855
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: And I even had on the show Jesse Israel who

856
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: went on the on the Vision tour, and.

857
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: So how fabulous is Jess?

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 2: You know, he had such great things to say about

859
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: her as well. And just like hearing you talk about

860
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: that meeting and using these descriptors.

861
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Speaker 3: It really.

862
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: I have to ask you, like, if not in that situation, Like,

863
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: have you ever been in a in a position where

864
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Speaker 2: you've just been totally in awe of someone that you've

865
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Speaker 2: been in the room with.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think different humans at different times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate to you know, I am a

868
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: huge fan of Phil Knight and his belief in humanity

869
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: and how he built culture. Everyone's heard me say culture

870
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: trumps strategy, and you need to have a strategy, but

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Speaker 1: if you haven't built a passionate, motivated, purpose driven culture,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to achieve the zenith

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Speaker 1: of what you really can achieve. And when I saw

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Speaker 1: him go through difficult times or great times or have

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Speaker 1: one on one conversations that balance humanity and drive was

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Speaker 1: just so powerful. And you know, at times, I guess

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Speaker 1: I would use the all word, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the other thing for me that I think is really important.

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Speaker 1: And I think why, you know, I've been able to

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Speaker 1: accomplish what I have, you know, and what I hope

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Speaker 1: to do in the future is I've had such support

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Speaker 1: of my family, and I think the reason why I've

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Speaker 1: been able to do what I do, and my daughter

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Speaker 1: talks about this, I've never bifurcated my life. There's no

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Speaker 1: work mindy and no you know, personal life MINDI. There's

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Speaker 1: only one MINDI. And you know, from the time my

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Speaker 1: daughter was little, she kind of knew that, but I

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Speaker 1: would take her everywhere and she'd experience, you know, what

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Speaker 1: I would do, and you know, I'd be sitting, you know,

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Speaker 1: at home with you know, boards covering the floor. I'd

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Speaker 1: be taking her with me to you know, a trade

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Speaker 1: show or you know, when I was at Nike the

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Speaker 1: Swim Championships in Barcelona, whatever it was. And as much

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Speaker 1: as it wasn't always easy and I had angst of

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Speaker 1: how can I be in two places at one time,

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Speaker 1: that was how I could live my life, and that

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Speaker 1: was my true, authentic self. I think that made a

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Speaker 1: very big difference. And I think people for a long

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Speaker 1: time felt that they had to be two people and

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Speaker 1: couldn't be themselves where they wanted to be. And I

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Speaker 1: always say to people, before you make a decision to

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Speaker 1: go take a role or go into a company, really

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: do tremendous due diligence and does that company line up

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Speaker 1: with your values? And are they going to appreciate you

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Speaker 1: for who you are? And can you bring your whole self?

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Speaker 1: And today I think that's more important than ever.

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Speaker 2: I sit here, I listen to you, I look to you,

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Speaker 2: and I see a extremely powerful, dedicated, motivated business woman

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Speaker 2: who has made something really great for herself. Here when

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Speaker 2: you look in the mirror, what is it that you

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Speaker 2: see looking back at you?

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Speaker 1: I see someone that from the very beginning has tried

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Speaker 1: to have positive impact. And that's how I'm going to

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Speaker 1: measure myself. I believe there's three things that have driven me.

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Speaker 1: Am I passionate about it? Is it purposeful? And is

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Speaker 1: it going to take me and the business somewhere? And

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Speaker 1: will I have impact? And you can impact at the

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Speaker 1: very early stage of your career and ongoing. And today

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm very, very fortunate to have a platform

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Speaker 1: and a voice and the ability to use that platform

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Speaker 1: and that voice. And if I don't, then I have

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Speaker 1: wasted all of those efforts to try and create, inspire

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Speaker 1: and really help support others in whatever way possible. And

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Speaker 1: today I'm able to have a different level of impact

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Speaker 1: because where I am. I'm vice chairman of the US

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Speaker 1: Fund for UNISEF. You know, my husband and I, you know,

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Speaker 1: grant a fellowship at Columbia in the Engineering School for

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Speaker 1: women and underserved minorities in their PhD programs. You know,

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Speaker 1: I try and do a lot with entrepreneurship. You know,

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Speaker 1: I speak onsity and now I'm very focused on the

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Speaker 1: need to you know, have greater impact on the health

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Speaker 1: trajectory of the world. And you know, if we're not

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Speaker 1: making that impact, what are we doing it for? You

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Speaker 1: know what a what am I? What am I showing

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Speaker 1: my daughter and my granddaughters that you know, they can accomplish?

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Speaker 1: And again, I think that's the most important thing to.

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Speaker 2: Me as we wind down here, the final question I

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Speaker 2: ask every guest right now, you have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: offer yourself a piece of advice.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say, uh to.

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Speaker 2: The mindy that was making that huge career pivot before

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Speaker 2: maybe she even had a full career, trying to you know,

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Speaker 2: make the most of what she could and make that

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Speaker 2: big transition into New York living. You have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to offer a previous, younger version of you a.

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Speaker 3: Piece of advice.

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Speaker 1: What do you tell her ultimate belief? You have to

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Speaker 1: have ultimate belief in yourself or why would others believe

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Speaker 1: in you? And you have to kind of build that

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Speaker 1: muscle to be able to truly believe in yourself. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, you need to develop an acute

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Speaker 1: sense of self awareness. I think self awareness is the

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Speaker 1: biggest superpower anyone can have. You need to understand the

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Speaker 1: impact that you have on others, what your strengths are,

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Speaker 1: what they may not be. And I think if you

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Speaker 1: have that combination of self belief and self awareness, especially

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Speaker 1: at a young age, you'll be invincible.

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Speaker 2: This was a bucket list interview for me. I cannot

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Speaker 2: thank you enough for your time and for all of

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Speaker 2: the takeaways that you have offered, not just me, but

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Speaker 2: that I will be able to bring to the Hurdle community.

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have to say the same thing to you.

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Speaker 1: I love the conversation and the dynamic and the honesty,

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Speaker 1: and that's what makes great conversation for sure.

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Speaker 2: Mindy, how do the hurdlers as I love to call them,

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Speaker 2: keep up with you? How do they keep up with

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Speaker 2: weight watchers? Give me some information here?

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly you can follow all our ww on Instagram, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and then you can absolutely follow me primarily on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and LinkedIn, and you know, hopefully we will keep up

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Speaker 1: with each other.

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Speaker 2: I am over at Hurdle Podcast and at Emily a

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Speaker 2: Body Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time