1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: SISHO on your twenty four to seven Home of the 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: Technically this is only half of the drive because Matt 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Williamson is not here today. I'm Dale Lolly flying solo 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: on the Drive today. Of course, you can hear the 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Drive every Monday through Friday from four to six pm 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: on these very airwaves. You can also download the Steelers 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: Mobile app and get that on there, download it to 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: your phone and you can watch the show or listen 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: to the show on YouTube as well. Leave us comments there. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: And today I asked for people for comments on the 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: ex Twitter and I've gotten some comments there. We'll get 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: to those later in the show here. But what I 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: wanted to do in this segment, Matt's not here, so 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: I get the mock draft all by myself. And I 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: do this today because today was the day where all 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: the underclassmen except for the people still playing, that's two 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: teams there. Today was a day for them to all 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: declare or have their their deadline for them to declare 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: for the draft. So we now have a better idea 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: of who the underclassmen are in this draft as well, 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: and it is a good group. So let's get to that. 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: The Steelers picking here. I'm only going to do the 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: first five rounds. We're not going to go the Steelers 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: have three seventh round picks. I'm not that deep into 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: the weeds here yet on the draft to understand exactly 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: who some of those later picks might be. And to 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: be quite frank, wouldn't surprise me if if some of 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: those seventh round picks aren't with the Steelers by the 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: time they get done with this. They could be moved elsewhere, 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: or you know, trade a couple of them to move up, 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: maybe into the sixth rounds something like that here. But 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: so the Steelers will be picking at twenty one, fifty two, 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: eighty three, one twenty one, and one sixty one. And 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 2: just remember, folks, when you when you're doing these mock drafts, 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: people might say, you'll know when draft time comes around 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: the pick at twenty one, the picket fifty two and 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: a picket eighty three aren't going to cheat. But that 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: pick at one twenty one in the fourth round, there's 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: gonna be some compensatory picks that are waffled in there 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: in between that third and fourth round that are gonna change. 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: It's gonna push it down a little bit. 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Same thing with their some of their later picks there, 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: so they're going to be a little bit later, but 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: you do know that they're going to have twenty one, 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: fifty two, and eighty three. I'm using the NFL Mock 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Draft database today to do my draft, and they take 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: kind of a conglomeration of all the everything that's out 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: there and just kind of put them together and that's 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: how they do their rankings here. So we'll go from that, 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: and the Steelers are up here now at twenty one. 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Looking at the picks ahead of them. Well, you had 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: Shadur Sanders go number one to Tennessee cam Ward. It 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: goes to Cleveland at two, Kyle McCord at three to 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: the Giants. 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: That seems a little. 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Odd, but okay, we'll go with it. Travis Hunter goes 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 2: forward to the New England Patriots. Will Johnson, the cornerback 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: from Michigan, goes at five to the Jaguar. Luther Burden 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: to the Vegas Raiders at six. Seven is Simmons, the 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: offensive tackle from Ohio State. Scourton, the edge rusher from Texas, 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: A and m goes to Carolina. Andre Carter no way 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: he lasts along, But that doesn't really matter as long 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: as the picks are somewhat in order here or you know, 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Will Campbell, Pierce Graham, Grant, McMillan, Stewart from Texas A 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: and M Walter Nolan the defensive lineman from Mississippi, and 68 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: Barron from the cornerback from Texas goes to Cincinnati, Calvin 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Banks goes the offensive tackle from Texas goes to Seattle. 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Then you had chavonn Revel the cornerback from East Carolina 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: goes to Tampa Bay, and Ashton Genty goes to Denver. 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Get used to seeing that one, because that one might 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: be one that you could pencil in there right now 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: and actually right it in ink. So the Steelers are 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: up at twenty one according to this particular website to 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: guys available, mikel Williams the edge rusher out of Georgia, 77 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: Malachi Starks the safety out of Georgia, Jalen Walker the 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: linebacker out of Georgia. Nobody's loving the Georgia players in 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: this particular mock draft. Tyler Warren, the tight end out 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: of Penn State. Jalen Milroe quarterback Alabama, Colston Loveland tight 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: end out of Michigan, Benjamin Morrison the cornerback out of 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Amika Ekiba the wide receiver out of Ohio State. 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: I don't know that I need to go any deeper 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: in this one. And Malachi Starks would make some sense. 85 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: I could, you know, perhaps play him in the slot. 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: I think he has some slot capability in his previously 87 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: and you're going to play the three safeties at times, 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: and you know he would certainly get you younger and 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: more explosive at that position. I don't see mikel Williams 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: or Jalen Walker being the pick. Tyler Warren or Colston 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: Loveland would make sense. And I understand, folks, the Steelers 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: have Pat Fryer on the roster and they have a 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: tight end that catches the ball playmakers. It's all about 94 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: the playmakers, the same thing that you look at with Eggbuka. 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to go into this assuming that the Steelers 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: have signed a veteran wide receiver to play opposite of 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: George Pickens. So in that instance, the tight ends would 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: make sense. You get more explosive with the offense. But 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: what the heck Jaln Milroe is there. I'm going to 100 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 2: take him taking by taking a swing at the quarterback 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: position and seeing what happens. I think he's going to 102 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: by the time this is all said and done and 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: he gets through the combine and all that stuff. Jaylen 104 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Milroe I believe could end up being a first round 105 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: draft pick. And so now we're zooming on down here 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: through to pick fifty two, and well, we got a 107 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: trade offer for that. We're not going to entertain any 108 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: trade offers at this thing. I had four trade offers 109 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: for pick number fifty two, though, looking here at the 110 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: guys available, well you got Nick Emiwari, the safety from 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: South Carolina. It's kind of that same discussion we just 112 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: had with the Malachi Starks situation. Can you get better 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: on the back end by adding another safety in the mix? 114 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: Potentially Jack Sawyer, the edge rusher out of Ohio State. 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: He's got the length that you look for in that, 116 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: but he's not quite heavy enough. He's gonna have to 117 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: play outside linebacker, at least he would in this particular scheme, 118 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: and so I don't think you go that route. Trey 119 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: Harris is there, the wide receiver, out of Mississippi. That's interesting. 120 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: Isaiah Bond, the wide receiver out of Texas is there, 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: that's interesting. But there's a guy here I can't pass up, 122 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and that is Omarion Hampton, the running back out of 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: North Carolina. If I would have, honestly would have considered 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: him in the first round if some of those other 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: guys hadn't been there. He is a fantastic player, catches 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: the ball well, he's tough, he's physical. He would fit 127 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: well in this offense. Deon Walker, the big defensive lineman 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: from Kentucky, is there as well, but I might be 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: able to get that a little bit later. I am 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: going to take Marion Hampton, running back out of North Carolina. 131 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: That's my new bellcal folks. And so we'll see where 132 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: this goes here. Now as we continue to roll through 133 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: this particular mock draft here on the NFL Mock Draft 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: Database dot Com, and our next pickup is at eighty three, 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: and we're getting close to that, and we are up now. 136 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: This is the only flying the ointment here in terms 137 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: of taking the right the running back, because the top 138 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: available player here is Quinn Shawn Judkins, the running back 139 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: out of Ohio State, This is a great running back draft, folks, 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: a fantastic one, and you can get guys like that 141 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: who can be here potential, you know, every down back 142 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: you know at this point. Some of the other good 143 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: players available are top players. A Gray Zabel, the offensive 144 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: lineman from North Dakota State. He would certainly be interesting 145 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: and we'll see him at the Senior Bowl in a 146 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Here wide receiver from Miami, Xavier Rostropo, 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: good football player, would be a welcome addition to the team. 148 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: You got Asirier Thomas, the cornerback out of Florida State. 149 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: That's intriguing as well. He is certainly they play a 150 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: lot of man the man defensive Florida State. I know 151 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: the team wasn't that great this year, but I think 152 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: that was more involved with the quarterback play than it 153 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: was necessarily some of the defensive players there. Andrew mcoba, 154 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: the safety out of Texas is available. You got Tate Ratledge, 155 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: the guard out of Georgia, Marcus Mabiu the offensive tackle 156 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: out of Purdue, Mason Taylor tight end out of LSU, 157 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Josiah Stewart, ed rusher out of Michigan. I'm just looking 158 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: here to see if there's a big defensive tackle here 159 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: that I have to have here, and I'm not really 160 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: seeing any of the defensive tackles here that would interest 161 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: me at this point, So I'm going to go ahead 162 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: and take a Zeerie Thomas, the cornerback out of Florida State. Again, 163 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: I think we've we've taken the wide receiver off the 164 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: table because I think they sign one, and you do 165 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: still have Roman Wilson coming back next year, so it's 166 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: kind of like having an Astra draft pick there as 167 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: it is. You know, don't know what Roman Wilson can be, 168 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: but they liked him enough to take him into third 169 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: round just a year ago, so I'm expecting him to 170 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: take a step forward and be ready and willing to 171 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: go here. So we're going to go that route with that, 172 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: and were next pick is up at one twenty one. 173 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: We have two trade offers for that, but we're not 174 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: going to take them because we're going to take another 175 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: player here and the top players available Caden Prather, the 176 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Maryland, Devin Neil, running back out 177 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: of Kansas. Again, it's a very deep running back draft, 178 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: and if we hadn't taken Mari and Hampton in the 179 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: second round. He would certainly be somebody that would look 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: at their same thing with Dylan Sampson out of Tennessee. 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Good football player. Tes Johnson, wide receiver out of Oregon. 182 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: We took our We haven't taken a wide receiver yet, 183 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: but we'll see. Karen Lacy is there from LSU, but 184 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: he's got some legal issues that he has to take 185 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: care of here, so we're not going to take him. 186 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Tory Holton, wide receiver out of Colorado State, Will Howard 187 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 2: quarterback from Ohio State. Charles Grant the interior offensive line. 188 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: He could play some tackle. He's out of William and Mary. 189 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: There's a one defensive lineman here that really interests me 190 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: at this point at one twenty one, and that's Ty Robinson, 191 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: defensive lineman out of Nebraska, and he'll be at the 192 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl in a couple of weeks here. But he's 193 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: big enough to ride the ride as a Steelers three 194 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: to four defensive end. He's six six, three hundred and 195 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: ten pounds or at least sixty five three hundred and 196 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: ten pounds, so he's he's got that size and link 197 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: that you look for in a classic Steelers defensive lineman. 198 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: I think you got to take him here at one 199 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: fifteen and and he might be one of the you know, 200 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: one of the the last guys to go here. But 201 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: you're talking about a guy in Nebraska last year as 202 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: a big guy that can play all the spots along 203 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: your defensive line, and he did that at Nebraska. He 204 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: had six sacs last year, so he has some juice 205 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: there as a pass rusher. So we're going to take 206 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: Ty Robinson defensive lineman out of Nebraska at one twenty one. 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: And So at this point we've gotten Jaylen Milroe quarterback 208 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: out of Alabama, Omari and Hampton running back out of 209 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: North Carolina, Aziier Thomas cornerback out of Florida State, and 210 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: Ty Robinson defensive lineman out of Nebraska with our first 211 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: four picks. And just for the I was wondering about 212 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: that this particular website does give you grades on your picks. 213 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Thus far, I've gotten an A and A and two 214 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: eight pluses for the last two picks. So getting some 215 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: good aye you there? Okay, our pick is now up 216 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: at one sixty one. The top guys available DJ Giddens 217 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: running back out of k State, Lander Burton linebacker out 218 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: of Utah, Jeffrey Bassa linebacker out of Oregon, Tyler Baron, 219 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: edge rusher out of Miami, Xavier Scott safety out of Illinois, 220 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: Rondez Gadson the second, the tight end out of Syracuse, 221 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: Jack Cory Brooks, wide receiver out of Louisville, Jake bringing 222 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 2: Stole tight end out of Clemson, and Jay Higgins, linebacker 223 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: out of Iowa. 224 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: I'm looking here. 225 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: Is there anybody left here that I'm just catches my 226 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: eye here as a potential. 227 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: Offensive lineman that's. 228 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Gotten pretty picked over here at this point, and obviously 229 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: things can change as we get closer. So I'm going 230 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: to look at the wide receiver position. You get Ja 231 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Cory Brooks, you got Pat Bryant, Antoine Wells junior out 232 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: of Mississippi, Nick Nash out of San Jose State, Elijah 233 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: Badger out of Florida, Ricky White out of UNLV, Jalen 234 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: Lane from Virginia Tech. None of that really interests me 235 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: a whole lot. Here. I'm just gonna look at the 236 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: offensive tackles here. You get Chase Chase Lunt out of Yukon, 237 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Jack Nelson out of Wisconsin. You can rarely go wrong 238 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: taking in a Wisconsin offensive lineman, and I'm gonna take 239 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Jack Nelson, offensive lineman out of Wisconsin. Maybe he's a tackle, 240 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: maybe he's a guard. We'll figure that out once he 241 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: gets here. But yeah, that's we're gon We're gonna go 242 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman there. We've taken a defensive lineman, We've 243 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: taken an offensive lineman here. I think that's always good 244 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: business to take players from those positions in some of 245 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: those spots and just kind of keep restocking that. But 246 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: so what we ended up with was Jaylen Milroe at 247 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: twenty one. We'll see if that continues to trend that. 248 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna test really really well over the 249 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: next few weeks here. Once he gets he's going to 250 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: be at the Senior Bowl, he's going to be at 251 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: the NFL Scouting Combine. I expect him to run very well. 252 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Expect him to perform well at the Senior Bowl. Amari 253 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: and Hampton, the running back out of North Carolina, very 254 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: talented guy, catches the ball well. You know you're looking 255 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: at a two hundred and twenty five pounder who's not 256 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: afraid of contact. 257 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: There. 258 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Azeri A Thomas, the cornerback out of Florida State. Could 259 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: be a potential guy to line up and play a 260 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: man pressman defense opposite Joey Porter Jr. Ty Robinson, a 261 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: guy who is a again has the length to play 262 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: defensive end. We're kick inside and play some interior line 263 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: in your defense as out of Nebraska, and then offensive 264 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: tackle Jack Nelson out of Wisconsin. That's what we ended 265 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: up with here. Again, I don't make the decisions about 266 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: who is available at what spots here. Obviously there were 267 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: some interesting picks there in early in this draft. 268 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: But could I see the Steelers being interested in Jaylen Milroe? Yes, 269 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: I could, you know. I think he is. 270 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: He has a lot of those intangibles that you look 271 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: for in quarterbacks, particularly in terms of the mobility. Maybe 272 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: he's not a starter right out of the gate, but 273 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: you might be able to come up with some packages 274 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: for him and Omari and Hampton. You would plug right 275 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: in as your lead running back there, and we'll see 276 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: about AZERI A. 277 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: Thomas. 278 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that would be an interesting draft. 279 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: But we're gonna get to another break. I'm dale Lolly. 280 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson not here today. He is out doing some 281 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: personal stuff. He'll be back at tomorrow. Of course, we'll 282 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: preview all the games going on this weekend in the NFL. 283 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: We'll put together our DFS lineup, all that fun stuff. 284 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: We'll do that tomorrow. For now, we're gonna take another 285 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: break and I will be back with more in a 286 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: drive right after this. 287 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt will on 288 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 289 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 290 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: And I am back. I am Dale Lotty and Matt 291 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: Williamson not here today. He is off doing some other stuff, 292 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: but he'll be back tomorrow. This is the Drive on 293 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio networking. Earlier in the day here I 294 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: put out ask for any questions on social media on 295 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: the ex Twitter, and I've got a number of questions 296 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: here and I'll go through some of these now. First 297 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: one's from Mike. That's m Rose seven to one four. 298 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: He asked, when can we expect to hear any type 299 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: of movements within the coaching staffs, hiring, firings, all that 300 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. 301 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: It's going to take a couple of weeks, folks. 302 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: I mean there are lots of interviews that take place 303 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: here the Steelers. Typically what happens is is guys just 304 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: aren't retained, your contract is up, and they'll go in 305 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: a different direction or whatever. You may not hear all 306 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: of it right away, but there's always They just take 307 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: their time and do these things. There's no rush per se, 308 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: you know. It's why the NFL has changed the rules 309 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: on some of this stuff as it is in terms 310 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: of when you can start hiring head coaches and things 311 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: of that nature. You know, you have to wait for 312 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: teams that are done playing and all that kind of stuff. 313 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: That's why you've only seen basically one coach hired thus far, 314 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: and that being Mike Vrabel, because he was already sitting 315 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: out there waiting for a job. 316 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: He wasn't under contract or anything. 317 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: You know, do these teams have an idea of who 318 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: they're going to hire shore But you know, everybody in 319 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: their uncle has been interviewed for the Jets job at 320 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: this point, including myself. I'm just kidding that I had 321 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: not been interviewed for the Jets job, But I'm surprised 322 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: my name didn't come up in that because everybody else's has, 323 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: you know, so they'll do second rounds and third you know, 324 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. People are taking their times, 325 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: and the league has kind of worked in that direction 326 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: to kind of tap the brakes a little bit on 327 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: some of this off that you know, how these hirings 328 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: and firings have happened over the last couple of years here, uh, 329 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: just to give the teams that are still in the 330 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: playoffs a chance to breathe a little bit and continue 331 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: to you know, work towards those games. So if there's 332 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: any changes, it's they're not going to be right away, 333 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: but they'll be forthcoming. If there are changes coming. Daan 334 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: tober uh d e T four one eight seven says, 335 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: can we can we get daily seven day, seven day, 336 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: daily seven day mock drafts from now until April? Well, 337 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 2: we don't do them every day, Dame, but you know, 338 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: it's a great way to learn who the prospects are, 339 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: get the names out there, talk about you know, those 340 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: particular guys for example, you know, we just I just 341 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: did the mock there and and Ty Robinson was a 342 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 2: guy that I've you know, talked about a little bit 343 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: there as a mid round defensive lineman out of Nebraska 344 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: that's kind of fits the Steelers mold and what they're 345 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: looking for in those defensive ends and so you know, 346 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: it's just a great way to learn more about those players, 347 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: and so we'll do more of them and talk you 348 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: through different scenarios. Again, maybe Jaln Milroe is there at 349 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: twenty one. Maybe he's not, but certainly I think he'd 350 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: be somebody that would interest the Steelers, you know, a 351 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: great deal. But you know, by the time we're done 352 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: with the Senior Bowl, for example, in a couple of weeks, 353 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: he may not be going at twenty one anymore. Maybe 354 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 2: he's better than that, maybe he's you know, goes down 355 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: there and doesn't play well, and you know it just 356 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: it's it's all part of the process and you keep 357 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: working out those different scenarios to figure out how this 358 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: is going to go because it's it's a big part 359 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: of the offseason. JB who says, mister no followers two. 360 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: So apparently there's a mister no followers one out there, 361 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: kind of like the wrestlers, there's mister unknown number one, 362 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: mister unknown number two. Uh, do you have any idea 363 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: if Tomlins slash offensive coaching staff have told Jones, Broderick Jones, 364 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Troy Fatanu where they'll be starting. Also, are you in 365 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: favor of drafting a guard in the first three rounds, 366 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: all answer the first part of that or the second 367 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 2: part of that first, and I must say no, on 368 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: the guard, you've got Mason McCormick under contract. I think 369 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: you can resign Nate Herbig for a pretty good price. 370 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: And you know, this is a guy that's started thirty 371 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: plus games in the NFL over the course of his 372 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: young career, still only twenty six, can play all three 373 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: spots on your interior. You still have Isaac sam Malu 374 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: under contract, You drafted Mason McCormick last year, and so 375 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: I don't know that you draft a guard in the 376 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: first three rounds. I think you want guys who either 377 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: make plays or take the ball away or help you 378 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: help you keep the other team from scoring. And then 379 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: this first part of your question, do you think Tomlin 380 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: or the offensive coaching staff have told Jones or Troy 381 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: where they'll be starting at Talk to Troy Filatano earlier 382 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: this week, and he said he hadn't had those conversations 383 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: with anybody to this point. But that's not unusual because 384 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: that's part of the exit interview process and they'll they'll 385 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: talk about, you know, hey, where do we see you at, 386 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: here's what you need to prepare for, here's what you 387 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: need to do better. And those are some frank conversations, 388 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: and so you know, maybe you know, if you're talking 389 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: to Roderick Jones, you say, hey, look, you need to 390 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: be better next year. We're going to probably end up 391 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: sliding you over to the left side. And I'm just 392 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: assuming here that that's you know, what happens here. But 393 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: you just tell them, hey, you know, this was not 394 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: the step forward that we expected from you in year two. 395 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: You know, too many missed assignments, too many mistakes out there. 396 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: You know that that's got to be better. Uh. You 397 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: Knowtano said, you know when we spoke to him on 398 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: locker clean out day, that he's going to go into 399 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: this whole thing under the assumption he's going to be 400 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: on the right side because that's where he had been working. Well, 401 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: that's where Jones had been working as well. And maybe 402 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: you work both of those guys at left and right 403 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: and see which one's better. You know, both of those 404 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: guys played left tackle in college. And if if Troy 405 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: fi Otano's the better left tackle, then maybe maybe you 406 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: play him at left tackle and lead broderc Jones on 407 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: the right side because you want to you know, you 408 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: want to put these guys where they can best are 409 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: best suited to succeed. And I don't know that you 410 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: want to go into that with preconceived notions, but you 411 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: know there's potential there that you you know, when they 412 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: when they put their best five, when they open up 413 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: OTAs or mini camp and they put their best five 414 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: on the field, those two guys are going to be 415 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: somewhere in that mix along that line. But that doesn't 416 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: mean that's we're gonna where they're going to finish at. 417 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: You know, the Steelers could decide it, you know, halfway 418 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: through training camp. All right, we've seen both of these 419 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: guys on on either side. Let's see what it looks 420 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: like if we flip flop them. And so that wouldn't 421 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: surprise me either if they if they go and do 422 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: it that way. But that's all you have to be determined. 423 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: Scott and Jersey blitz them at Blitz them says, I 424 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: think a holdout slash trade are very possible. With George Pickens. 425 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: What would you put his value at if you think 426 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: the team wants him and he is willing to extend 427 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: what would it cost well, I mean, I'm not a 428 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: soothsayer here, I just pretend to be one on the radio. 429 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: But you know, will George Pickens hold out? I don't 430 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: think that will be the case. If they get anything 431 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: done with George Pickens, it probably wouldn't happen until training camp, 432 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: and you know, at that point you would have more 433 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: information in hand. You know, maybe you would field offers 434 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: for him, or at least if somebody calls you about him, 435 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: you at least fulfilled the phone call. And and you know, 436 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: see what that is. I don't have any idea what 437 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: his value is around the league. Obviously that the player 438 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: is very talented. You know, there's some stuff with him 439 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: that you know, quite frankly, you could do without in 440 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, some of the the things that 441 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: you know, the penalties that he takes and things of 442 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: that nature. But I don't know that he isn't off 443 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: the field problem. You know, the problems are all kind 444 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: of on the field kind of stuff that you'd like 445 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: that to be better. But you know, at the same time, 446 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: he's still, you know, a guy who's in his early twenties, 447 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: and you know, you expect that as he continues to 448 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 2: mature and get you know, get older and you know, 449 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: more involved in the game that that would get better. 450 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: Think back to. 451 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster, folks, you know when Juju came to 452 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: the Steelers and was a very young player, still twenty 453 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: at that point, and Juju at I think twenty eight 454 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: now is what he is, doesn't do some of the 455 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: same things that he did when he was a younger player. 456 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: Now he's not also not the player that he was 457 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: at that point in his career, but he matured, he 458 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: got older, he got wiser, you know, and so I 459 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: understand the frustrations at times with George Pickens. I absolutely do, 460 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: and I you know, I questioned some of the things 461 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: that he does on the football field, but he is 462 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: a tremendous talent, and so you know, you have to 463 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: always weigh if you're in the situation of looking at 464 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: that player, you know, does the talent outweigh the headaches 465 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, that you get with 466 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: that as well. That's a quick, big question if the 467 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: Steelers are going to have to ask themselves this offseason, 468 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: and part of that process might be what are teams 469 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: willing to give up for a guy like that? You know, 470 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: if you did make him available via trade. But if 471 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: you do that, now you've got two big holes in 472 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: your offense. Not only do you need a number two receiver, 473 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: now you need a number one and those are hard 474 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: to find. And I think we can all agree that 475 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: George Pickens has the talent and if he's not already 476 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: a number one receiver, he's certainly trending in that direction. Sprance. 477 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: Rob sprant At Rob Sprance asks, do you think part 478 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: of the late season falloffs can partly be attributed to 479 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: the team practicing far more physically than almost every organization. 480 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: This happens in both camp and during the season with 481 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: aggressive padded practices. Even Tomlin admitted they were fatigued. Well, 482 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: there's a difference in padded practices, Rob, Just because they're 483 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: in pads during the season doesn't mean that they're tackling. 484 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: You don't do that. You're not allowed to do that. 485 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: It would be silly to do that. And that's what teams. 486 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: If you talk to Craig Wolfly and he starts talking 487 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: about back in his day, they had padded practices during 488 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: the season in which they tackled to the ground during 489 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: the season. They don't do that anymore, you can't do it. 490 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: And I know the Steelers do more tackling and are 491 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, more physically into the training camp practices than 492 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: most other teams, but that's usually just the first two weeks. 493 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 2: So I don't know that I'm going to use that 494 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: as an excuse a Steelers have been doing that. They 495 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: were doing that, you know, when they were going to 496 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship for example in twenty sixteen. You know, 497 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: did that team all off at the end of the season. No, Now, 498 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: each team is different and each team handles those kind 499 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: of things differently, but you know, maybe it's something they 500 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: need to look at, you know, just getting guys to 501 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: the to the to the end of the line and 502 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: better health and and they'll look at all those kind 503 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: of things over the course of the next couple of months. 504 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: Here as they put together a plan for the twenty 505 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: twenty five season. DSR who is at Doug Doo daus 506 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: Steele Underscore New I guess DALs Steele Undercore New as 507 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: if a if A Smith gets hired for a head 508 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: coaching job, who are the possible replacements? Antoine Randellellen Detroit, 509 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: any rams assistance. I'll be honest with you, I haven't 510 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: looked that far into this yet because that would have 511 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: to happen first before I start looking to replace the 512 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: guy who's currently in the job. You know, if if 513 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: Arthur Smith starts, you know, getting more traction here as 514 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: a head coach with the Chicago Bears or the New 515 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: York Jets, you know, then I'll start looking at potential replacements. 516 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't know that they would go in in house 517 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: to do that. I think they would, you know, look 518 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: outside again. You know, there were some people who were 519 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: interviewed for the job last year. Some of those guys 520 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: are available, you know. For example, I believe Clint Kubiak 521 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: got hired you know, with the by the Saints, but 522 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: those guys are all out of jobs right now. So 523 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: that's just a name I'm throwing out there. I don't 524 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: know if he got hired yet by anybody else or not. 525 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: I've just been too ingrained with what's been going on 526 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: with the Steelers to start looking that far down. 527 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: The road yet. 528 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Jay Mick, who is a JP primetime asks how can 529 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: they build the wide receiver room to help out whoever 530 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback is. I'm of the thought J mcmack that 531 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: they need to go sign a veteran wide receiver, a 532 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: guy who's who has done that, a guy who has produced, 533 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: even if he's coming off of a down year or 534 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: an injury. You know, I just think that a. 535 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: You get a guy who. 536 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: You you know, would hope could come in and contribute 537 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: right away and be you know, not rolling the dice 538 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: with with a rookie there. And the other side of 539 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: the equation is there we just talked about George Pickens. 540 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: You know, I want somebody in that room with him 541 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: that maybe he listens to a little bit more. Maybe 542 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: it's the voice he looks at some guy and says, well, 543 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: this is guy's been. Let's say a thousand yard receiver before, 544 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: this guy's been, you know, a super Bowl winning receiver before, 545 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: maybe both, or a guy that's been an All Pro 546 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: and I want to be that, so I'm going to 547 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: emulate that guy. And you know, a guy like Devonte 548 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: Adams would certainly be that that veteran voice in the 549 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: room that I think would get a lot of attention there. 550 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: Chris Godwin might be a guy that would get a 551 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: lot of attention and command that kind of respect from 552 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: the players around him. Nanastu asks, do you think Mike 553 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: Tomlin is too much hands on on the offensive game 554 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: planning and maybe just maybe needs to back off of 555 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: it and bet and let Arthur Smith do what he 556 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: was brought in for. That's an assumption. And here's why 557 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: I say that's an assumption. If you watch Hard Knocks 558 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: and they've got cameras in all the rooms, did you 559 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: see any cameras in the offensive game planning room with 560 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: Art with with Mike Tomlin sitting there with all the 561 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: offensive coaches coming up with the offensive game plan you 562 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: And the answer is you did not. Now, does he 563 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: have his fingerprints on the defensive game plan? 564 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Does he have some say in what happens offensively? 565 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I don't know that he's game planning necessarily 566 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: offensively as much as some people might give him credit for. 567 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: I think he again, he's the head coach. He should 568 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: have a say on fundamentally what kind of offense that 569 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: you want to run. That's why they hired Arthur Smith. 570 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: They wanted to go to him more run oriented offense, 571 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: one that that is based on, you know, a tough 572 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: nosed running game. But I don't know that you know, 573 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlinson and you know we're not gonna we're gonna 574 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: go in here, and you know, scheme this up offensively. 575 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: I don't know that he does that, and I've never 576 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: heard that he does that. Now. 577 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: He may say in certain situations, hey, we want to 578 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: run the football here because we will to run some 579 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: clock or things of that nature. 580 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: But that's what every head coach does. 581 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: They all say, hey, let let's let's be cognizantive here 582 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: of of the situation, and we want to run some 583 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: clock here, and and if we have to pump, you 584 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: know the defense will get it done. Or we're going 585 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: to throw here because I don't know if the defense 586 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: can hold them. Again, those are decisions that every head 587 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: coach makes, So I don't know that he is as 588 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: much involved in the offensive game planning stuff as some 589 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: people might assume. Kirby'suzula asks why did Russ hardly ever 590 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: complete passes over the middle? 591 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: Poor scheme? 592 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Or is he physically too short to see it over 593 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: a collapsing pocket. If you look at Russell Wilson's career, 594 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: you know that's been something that He's never been a 595 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: big throw over the middle guy. And part of that 596 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: is because he is a shorter quarterback, doesn't seem to 597 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: matter because he still completes passes. And I think back 598 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: to some of the passes that he did complete over 599 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: the middle of the field this year, and there were several. 600 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: I think some of that over the middle of the 601 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: field stuff gets magnified in certain games. But I just 602 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: think back to the game that they just played last 603 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: week against the Baltimore Ravens. He threw a pretty big 604 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 2: pass in that game over the middle of the field 605 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: on the third nine or third and ten, whatever it was, 606 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: from his own three, and hit Calvin Austin in stride. 607 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: You know, there were plays this year where he did 608 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: throw over the middle. And again i'll go back to 609 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: hard knocks. You know, you heard Mike Tomlin tell him 610 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: before they went out on the field here, let's be aggressive. 611 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: Let's be aggressive here in this situation to try to 612 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: get back into this game. So some of it's also that. 613 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: So in some ways you're talking about that's not necessarily 614 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: poor scheme, but some of that is also you throw 615 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: more interceptions when you throw over the middle, balls get tipped, 616 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: linebackers dropped that you didn't. 617 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: Expect to be there. 618 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: So some of that is, Hey, we don't want to 619 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: turn the football over in some of these situations. And 620 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: you have a quarterback in Russell Wilson who's really good 621 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: throwing outside the numbers, and that's one of the reasons 622 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: why they went out and got him, because they had 623 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: guys who could make plays outside the numbers. And you're 624 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: leading receiver this season, Let's not forget it's Pat Fryarmouth. 625 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: He led the team in receptions. Well, most of his 626 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: receptions come over the middle. You know, they had no 627 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: problem throwing over the middle, for example in the game 628 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: against the Cincinnati Bengals the first time around. So they 629 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: can throw over the middle, I think a lot of 630 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: times they choose not to because that's where the ball 631 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: gets intercepted. Anyways, that looks like it for the questions 632 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: on social media, a lot of good stuff on there. 633 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: Appreciate all the questions. You know, do that maybe a 634 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: little bit more often when we also have Matt here available. 635 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: We do it every once in a while in the offseason, 636 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: but maybe we'll do that more here as we're acting 637 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: going to continue to do the drive five days a 638 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: week all the way running up through the start free agency. 639 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 3: Here. That'll be something new. 640 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: We usually drop back to after the super Bowl, going 641 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: to a three day a week schedule. We're going to 642 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: continue to do five days a week because there's just 643 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: so much to talk about. And as I mentioned in 644 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: the previous hour, you would do that in previous years 645 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: because well the Steelers weren't real active in you know, 646 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: free agency. Well that's not been the case the last 647 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 2: few years, and so you know, got to have instant reaction, 648 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: You got to have analysis and everything that goes with that, 649 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: with everything that happens, that's why you tune into the show, 650 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: and hopefully we're able to bring that to you. We're 651 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: going to get to a break here on the drive. 652 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly, no Matt Williamson today, flying solo here today, 653 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: but we'll be back with more right after. 654 00:34:53,680 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: This as the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 655 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 656 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 657 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: And we are back. 658 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson while he's not 659 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: here today, so I'm using the royal we when we 660 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: talk about we are back. Anyways, This is the Drive 661 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network and recently Mel Kiper put 662 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: together and of course those of you who know Mel Kuiper, 663 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: NFL draft analysts for ESPN took a look here at 664 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: the running backs taken in the first round going back 665 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: to the twenty thirteen twenty fourteen drafts. Really, there weren't 666 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: any in the first round running backs in the twenty 667 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: thirteen twenty fourteen drafts, so he ranked him since then. 668 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 2: So really, over the last ten seasons, the guy's taken 669 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 2: in the first round the kind of slotted in Ashton 670 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: genty from a Boise State where he feels like he 671 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: would rank him among those players. So let's take a 672 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: look at that here to finish up the show. And 673 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: at fifteen he has Rashad Penny out of San Diego State. 674 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: He went at number twenty seven in twenty eighteen to 675 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks, And that one was I can remember 676 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: when that one happened. That was kind of a surprise. 677 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 2: You know, the Seahawks have been a team that's been 678 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: known to throw some surprises out there in terms of 679 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: their first round draft picks over the years, and that 680 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: was definitely one that was a surprise. And well, Penny 681 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: showed some flashes but his best season came in twenty 682 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: twenty one, when he ran for seven hundred and forty 683 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: nine yards. He did average six point three yards of 684 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: carry that season, scored six touchdowns, but he was always 685 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: hurt and not a good use of. 686 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: A first round draft pick at number fourteen. 687 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: He's got Clyde Edwards Hilaire by the Kansas City Chiefs 688 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. They took him at number thirty two, 689 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: and I can remember when that one happened, and everybody's wow, 690 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they just got better. They you know, they 691 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 2: got one of the best running backs in this draft. 692 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 2: And that did not turn out to be the case. 693 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: He's in his fifth season. The Chiefs moved on from him. 694 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: He ended the season with the New Orleans Saints, and 695 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: you know, he had eight hundred yards in his rookie season. 696 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: But he has never turned into what anybody thought he 697 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: could be as a pass catcher things of that nature. 698 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: He was just tiny. That was one of the problems. 699 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 2: And you know, you worried about that with him coming out, 700 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, could he do how would he handle blitz 701 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: pickup and things of that nature. Well, as it turned out, 702 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: not all that well, and that's kind of been his downfall. 703 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: At thirteen, Sony Michelle, who was drafted number thirty one 704 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen by the New England Patriots, had a 705 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: lot of ability, couldn't stay healthy. He had over eight 706 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: hundred rushing yards three times over five years, scored twenty 707 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: career touchdowns, but knee and quad injuries really impacted what 708 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: he could be and just didn't work out for the 709 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: New England Patriots. At twelve on this list, he has 710 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon, who was taken in twenty fifteen by the 711 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers at number fifteen. And you know, the 712 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: guy had seventy career touchdowns, two Pro Bowl appearances, but 713 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: just one one thousand yard rushing season, that coming in 714 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. 715 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: He was a good player, just not a great player. 716 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: You know. 717 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: Was he worth the fifteenth pick in the draft? Probably not. 718 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: I'd have to look back at that draft and see 719 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: what was taken after him. But he did score seventy 720 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: touchdowns in his career, which is no small feat. And 721 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: they always had a good number two, a good one 722 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: two punch. But taking Melvin Gordon with the fifteenth overall pick, yeah, 723 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: probably give that one a thumbs down on that at 724 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: number eleven. This may surprise some people, but the guber 725 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: eleven is Travis Atn, who was taken at twenty five 726 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: by the Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty twenty one. 727 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: You can, you know, I can remember last year. 728 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: Last season, people's thinking that Travis ATM was a better 729 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: pick than Nause Harris, and that just has not turned 730 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: out to be the case. He's shown flashes of being 731 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: a good player, but he's not consistent and he just 732 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: can't stay healthy on a consistent basis. And that's a 733 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: big thing in the NFL. You know, the consistency is everything. 734 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: You know, the best ability is availability and Atn has 735 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: just not been available nearly enough. And he's also not 736 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: the receiver or receiving back that a lot of people 737 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: think that he might be or might might have been 738 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 2: coming out. 739 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 3: Of the draft. 740 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: You know, had a thousand yard season in twenty three, 741 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: didn't repeat that this year for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So 742 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: he just had one one thousand yard season under his 743 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: belt in those four seasons. And well, Nagie Harris has 744 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: been better. And number ten on this list is Nagy Harris. 745 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: Steelers took him at picked number twenty four in twenty 746 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 2: twenty one. They got four consecutive one thousand yard seasons 747 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 2: out of him. He's been a workhorse back and you know, 748 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: you could look at the I think sometimes his receiving 749 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: skills weren't utilized quite enough, but he also doesn't give 750 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: you the explosiveness necessarily that you might want at that position. 751 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: He's a solid football player and I think a lot 752 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: of teams will be glad to have Nag Harris. But 753 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: what's the price going to be? And that's the question 754 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: that the Steelers have to ask themselves going into this offseason. 755 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 3: You know, we'll see where that goes. But we'll see 756 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: who's ahead of. 757 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: This list of Nause Harris, and number nine would be 758 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: Todd Gurley, the second out of Georgia. He was taken 759 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: number ten overall by the Rams in twenty fifteen. And 760 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 2: that's the other thing, folks, there's a big difference between 761 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 2: taking a guy into top ten and taking Nause Harris. 762 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: It picked number twenty four. You know, that's a little 763 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: bit different there. Gurley was a good football player, had 764 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 2: some knee issues, you knew that coming out of college, 765 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: but he was a very good football player. You know, 766 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: he had that torn acl coming out of school, at 767 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: knee issues throughout his throughout his career, but he had 768 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: some big seasons as well. And you know, was he 769 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 2: worth the number of ten overall pick in the grand 770 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: scheme of things. Probably not. You know, if he'd have 771 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 2: been taking fifteen or twenty, okay, that would be a 772 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: little more. 773 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: But you did get good value out of that. 774 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: He did have some big seasons and he helped the 775 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: Rams to a Super Bowl, So there's that as well. 776 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: Number eight on this list is Jamier Gibbs and he 777 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: went number twelve and twenty twenty three out of Alabama 778 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: to the Detroit Lions. I can remember when that pick 779 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: was made. A lot of people you can't take a 780 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: running back that high. The Detroit Lions, I think would 781 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: would say argue differently. And he's not just a running back. 782 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 2: He is a playmaker. And that's the kind of back 783 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: that if you're going to take one in the first round, 784 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 2: he better be a runner and be a pass catcher 785 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 2: for you. And you know, if you look at it, 786 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: he's a playmaker. 787 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: Yes, they have. 788 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: They paired him with David Montgomery and he got a 789 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: nice one to two punch. But you know down the stretch, 790 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: the Lions didn't have Montgomery this year and Gibbs was 791 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: asked to carry the load and he did that as well. 792 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 2: So I think that's a very solid pick. Number seven 793 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs. He was taken number twenty four by the 794 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: Raiders in twenty nineteen. You're talking about a guy who's 795 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: led the league in rushing. He had twelve hundred and 796 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 2: eighty five rushing yards this season along with the fourteen touchdowns. 797 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: Had five strong seasons with the Raiders, and a couple 798 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: of them were some down years, but they weren't a 799 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 2: good football team, and that it wasn't all on him. 800 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,959 Speaker 2: But I think he'd say that pick at twenty four 801 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: was a slam dunk. He is Ashton Genty at a 802 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: Boise State at number six, So he's saying that Genty 803 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: is a better prospect than all the guys I just 804 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: mentioned some pretty good football players on that list there. 805 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: So you know, Ashton Genty, people that would you take 806 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 2: him at twenty one? 807 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: Yes? I would. 808 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 2: Now, is he exactly the kind of football player, exactly 809 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: the kind of back that the Steelers have had over 810 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: the years. 811 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 3: Well, he's five nine two fifteen. 812 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the necessarily, he's not a two hundred 813 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: and thirty pound guy that the Steelers have kind of 814 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: trended towards in recent seasons. You know, you think back 815 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: to even James Connor, Le'Veon Bell. You know, they've they've 816 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: had those bigger, tighte backs. But at five nine two fifteen, 817 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 2: he's pretty well put together, and he runs between the 818 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: tackles well, also catches. 819 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 3: The ball well. 820 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 2: Wouldn't bother me at all, you know, I don't care 821 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 2: about the don't take running backs in the first round. 822 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 3: You do if that's what you need, and if that 823 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 3: guy is a special player. 824 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 2: And does more than just run the football, absolutely and gently, 825 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 2: to me, does that. Number five on this list is 826 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: Leonard Fournett, taken number four overall by Jacksonville in twenty seventeen, 827 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: and he ran for a thousand yards in his first 828 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: and third NFL seasons, won a Super Bowl with the 829 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Was a good player and kind of 830 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: a game changer for the for the Jacksonville Jaguars in 831 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I understand, you know that the Kuiper's putting 832 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: these guys where he had them ranked as prospects. I 833 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 2: don't know that I would have four Nette ahead of 834 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 2: some of the guys that have been previously mentioned on 835 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: here in terms of his overall career play. But I 836 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 2: understand you know him having four Nette that high on 837 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: this list. This is where he would have ranked him 838 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 2: as an overall player. But I think if he went 839 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: back and gave the Jacksonville Jaguars truth serum, maybe they 840 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: would taking somebody else at number four. At Fournette went 841 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: at number fifteen, like Melvin Gordon. Okay, I get it, 842 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: or twenty I would get it, but maybe not at 843 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 2: number four. 844 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 3: Number four on. 845 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 2: This list is Christian McCaffrey by the Carolina Panthers in 846 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: he went eight overall in the twenty seventeen draft. I 847 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 2: don't think we need to say much about that. McCaffrey 848 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: is a great all around football player and definitely a 849 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 2: franchise changer for two different franchises. Now Vjeon Robinson at three. 850 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: He was drafted eighth overall by the Falcons in twenty 851 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: twenty three. Fabulous football player. I don't think the Falcons 852 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: regret doing that at all. Number two one here is 853 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott out of Ohio State fourth by the Cowboys 854 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. Zeke's had a great career. It's probably 855 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: winding down at this point. It's definitely winding down at 856 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: this point. But I don't think the Cowboys felt bad 857 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: about taking him fourth overall, very good football player and 858 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 2: number one on this list. Saquon Barkley number two overall 859 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen to the New York Giants. I think 860 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: they regret letting him go this offseason. I would, especially 861 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 2: the fact that he went to a division rival and 862 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of sleepless nights in New York because Sakuon 863 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 2: Barkley is now a Philadelphia Eagle. That is mel Kiper's 864 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: list of the running backs taken in the first round 865 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 2: over the last decade and where Ashton genty falls in 866 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: that one in rankings of those guys, again, Najie Harris 867 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: comes in at tenth on that list. Not a bad 868 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 2: spot there for Nause and he's been a good football 869 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 2: player for the Steelers. I just don't know that based 870 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 2: on what he might command on the open market, he 871 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 2: will be a Pittsburgh Steeler in twenty twenty five. That's 872 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 2: going to do it for today's show. So I'd like 873 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 2: to let everybody get again know that Matt will be 874 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: back again tomorrow. We'll be back in the saddle here 875 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 2: at our regular time four to six. I'd like to 876 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: thank Justin Miller for running the Justin Miller Hotline and 877 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: the South on board here. We'd like to also thank 878 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: Rob King you slopped. I enjoyed us here for the show, 879 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 2: and like to thank Tyler Viitmeyer for making sure the 880 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: show gets out there onto YouTube. Check that out there, 881 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: leave us your comments, all that fun stuff. But for now, 882 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lallie. We thank you for listening to this 883 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.