WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Magic coach Jamahl Mosley 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.600 If you checked the Eastern Conference standings this morning, who 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.840 did you see up there with Boston, Milwaukee and Philly 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:18.040 the expected powers in the East. It's the Orlando Magic 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.959 sixteen and seven as we've passed the quarter mark of 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.400 the regular season, and joining us on this special edition 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.400 of this League Uncut, it's Magic coach Jamal Moseley next 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:33.800 right here with Chris and I. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:42.199 Welcome to this League Uncut rule of twenty four hour 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:49.440 NBA News You, Chris Hans, It's time, work's time. It's 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:55.880 so time. This League Uncut is. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.360 Underway and on fire. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.440 This should be a good one. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.880 Everyone, welcome in to a special edition of this League 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.479 Uncut with a special guest Chris and I. As you know, 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.480 we just dropped a pod yesterday, but on this Tuesday 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.080 we were given the opportunity to speak with one of 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.319 the absolute newsmakers of the. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:26.840 League so far this season. Who's Orlando Magic? 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:32.720 Awoke on this Tuesday at sixteen and seven, tied with 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:38.080 Boston and Milwaukee. They hold the East's second best record, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.120 which I don't remember too many of us know it 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:46.840 alls saying what happen before Halloween? And he also happens 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.480 to be the reigning Coach of the Month in the 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:51.480 Eastern Conference. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:57.200 A hearty this league, uncut. Welcome to Orlando Magic coach 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:58.160 Jamal Moseley. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.280 Coach mos how. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.040 I don't know how we talked you into this, but 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.160 we are glad we did. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.160 Because I love you both. So it's all good. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.480 We will take it because not many people say that, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:12.880 especially out loud. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.240 The early coach of the year favor. Right here, we 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.400 have your hot coach. Coach, what do you just just 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.640 tell me, man, just tell us about you're starting to 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.640 people are starting to pick up on what your Lando 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.639 Magic are doing, and just tell me, is this even 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.960 a surprise to you? I have to be honest, coach, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.000 I didn't you know, I didn't. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.040 I mean it honestly. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.320 What Jeff and their group did, the ability to bring 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.960 everybody back, you know, the same group, and then with 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.360 the additions of Joe Ingles, who has changed our locker 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.880 room in a lot of ways. But the continuity, the 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.840 chemistry of the team, the jump we had a little 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.639 bit towards the end of last year. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.920 You can feel what the guys felt. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.720 Uh they're confidence, their belief in each other and then 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.480 walking in and adding you know, Anthony Black and Jet 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.600 Howard and guys that just fit right into what we 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.320 were doing. The character, the makeup, the defensive mindset. So 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.640 it's the belief that this group has had. It's the 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.520 belief that the organization has had in these guys. And 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.920 you'll mind you it's early, but these guys are a 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.320 tight knit group that they just believe in each other 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.160 and what they're doing. And our staff does an unbelievable 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.400 job with each one of these guys. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.680 As we're speaking to you, you guys just posted a 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.880 very good win last night over Cleveland. And something else 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.960 that happened when you woke up this morning. Top three defense, 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.320 which is yet another element of this team's success that 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.920 I don't remember too many of us so called experts 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:50.280 touting would happen back in October when we were making 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:51.480 preseason predictions. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.720 So you tell us, how do you get a. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:59.160 Young team to buy into defense like this young team has. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.320 Well, we keep saying it. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.200 We have guys that want to you know, you look 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.080 at Jalen Suggs and what he's capable of doing. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.040 Jonathan Isaac. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:09.120 You know the defense that Franz Wagner and Paulo are 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.280 playing that they you know, they took on this summer 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.800 wanting to make take on that challenge of being able 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.560 to sit down and guard. You got four guys that 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.720 you know talk about making the All defensive team. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.280 And you know then Jonathan. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.719 Isaac, who's you know, possibly you know, being barring, you know, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.400 staying healthy, is you know he can get Defensive Player 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.360 of the Year the way he plays. I think that 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.479 you have guys that want to and then our system 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.039 has guys that understand what we're asking them to do 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.520 and they follow the game plan. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:38.760 At a high level. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.120 Coach, when you think about getting this opportunity, when you 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.239 finally got an opportunity to be the head coach roaming 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:52.599 the sidelines, call the shots a lot of times when 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.400 you get that first opportunity, it's a situation where it's 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.839 a rebuild. You're starting from the bottom, and you have 0:04:59.920 --> 0:05:04.800 to to make tremendous strides to even stay in that 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.040 position with that organization or even move to a better 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.839 position like you have to and and it's and it's 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.120 tough for a lot of coaches. Can you tell me 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.440 the process for you when you did accept your Lando 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:22.680 Magic job, because you know, again, no nobody thought you 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.360 guys would be doing this right now, but just just 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.920 just take it through the process you had. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.880 Well, first, there's just a high high amount of gratitude 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.720 for being given the opportunity, you know, from the Devas family, 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.840 for Alex, for Jeff and John, just being able to, 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.359 you know, given the opportunity to do it, you know, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.599 and someone believing that you know, you're capable of leading 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:52.159 a group and leading an organizations as it happens, you know, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.119 you just lean on your mentors, you know what people 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.520 have been through before you. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.080 You talk to your peers who have been in situations. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.240 Uh and and when you're talking about growth and building, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.520 it doesn't stop in my opinion, you know, whether we 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.520 were sixteen and seven or seven and sixteen, it's still 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.880 about the growth and development of each one of these guys. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.720 How do you help them become pros on and off 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.560 the court? How do you help them develop the mindset 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.080 for winning and learning how to win? Because I think 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.360 people forget that in this league it's hard to win 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.080 and you have to learn how to do it. So 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.960 that's what our mindset has been. And then our staff, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.800 who I will sing their praises, you know till I 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.440 can't sing it anymore. They do a tremendous job with 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.720 this group because they meet each guy exactly where they are, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.159 help them realize their potential and communicate with them the 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.039 exact way and what we need to do in order 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.240 for them to be successful. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.600 That's to me, that's what it's about for this group 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:50.040 of guys. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.240 Well, look, no one here in Dallas is surprised. This 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.680 was your last stop as an assistant coach before you 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.800 got this job in Orlando. And Chris, you cannot understand 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.279 sayes how love this man is in the Dallas Mavericks organization. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.560 Dirk Noavitsky and Luke and Nelukah the. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.600 Two faces of this franchise for basically twenty five years. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.480 I think if we had them on they would get 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.480 into a pretty good argument about who is the number 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.600 one Jamal Mosley fan. I mean, but you know you 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.880 talked about winning, and I think an overlooked part of 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.960 this is you guys went twenty nine and twenty eight 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.600 last season after the five and twenty start, So it's 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.559 not just like these last twenty three games. You guys 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.440 have been playing five hundred ball for a while now. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.240 How big a deal was that? 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.520 Last year to basically be a five hundred team for 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.360 almost sixty games. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:44.720 That was big, you know. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.280 I think the guys started to realize the belief system 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.360 and what it took. I mean, we were so close 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.200 to that playing game, and I think those games hurt 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.360 guys because they started to register like it was this 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.400 one game or that one game that and that changed 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.280 exactly where you could be, you know, in the postseason. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.720 And so having that being known, you know, the guys 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.239 talked about it this summer, sitting down with Paolo Franz 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.240 Mo Markel and just talking and saying, hey, listen, this 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.320 is what we need to do. You need to come 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.760 out the gates the right way because you don't want 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.280 your backup against it, you know, coming down later in 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.920 the season. And each one of these guys has taken 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.240 that on, the seriousness about what it means to be 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.680 a team, and we say it as a group, we 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.560 do it by committee, and these guys are registering that 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.200 they're believing in it and it's a partnership with this group, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.640 and that's what the that's what they bought into. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:36.559 Well. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.040 I remember seeing you at euro Basket the summer before 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.000 last season, and I remember you saying that you were like, no, 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.080 we're going to make a run at a play in 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.920 spot at the least. And I remember saying, man, does 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.199 he really believe that? But obviously you you were not kidding. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.480 And then I remember Polo Bancaro right before his rookie season. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.760 You guys played an exhibition game in Dallas, and I 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.079 had the chance to talk to him, and I was 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.120 excited to talk to him because I don't go see 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.840 a lot of college games, but his one. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.040 Year at Duke, my beloved cal State Fullerton. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.600 Somehow, by the miracle of the draw, we got to 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.640 play Duke in the first round, which has never happened 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.559 is probably never gonna happen again. So I went all 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.199 the way to South Carolina because I was not gonna 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.800 miss the chance that we're actually playing Duke. So I 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.800 got to watch him play this, you know, play his 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.880 first college tournament game. And I remember when you guys 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.000 were in Dallas, and I said, you know, you're going to. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.240 Lose a lot as a rookie. How prepared are you 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:31.760 for that? 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.719 Because obviously at Duke, you know, you lose one, two, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.600 three games a season, maybe five games a season, Like, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.480 how do you think he handled that last year and 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.600 you know already you guys are a winning team in 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.800 his in the Polo ban Caro era. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.439 Well, he's a winner, and I will say it over 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:50.920 and over again. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.520 He is a big time winner and he's going to 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:57.840 do whatever's necessary to help win games. And the great 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.160 part about him walking in he had had so many 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.160 the conversations, you know, knowing with Coach k other pros, 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.040 how he was raised, knowing that it is a process. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.240 It was a process when he walked in that you know, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.200 you as a rookie, you're not always going to walk 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.880 in and get your team to fifty wins. And what 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.160 he registered in that was finding his space, finding how 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.080 he could impact winning within the team. And it was 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.840 never you know, there's frustrating moments obviously, but what it 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.440 did was it allowed him to see both sides of it, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.080 you know, not taking any of the wins for granted 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.679 and knowing exactly what it takes in this league to 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.160 try to continue to know, you know, rack up wins. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.880 So since we're on Pollo Coach, let's go there. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.480 Let's see if you can shed some light because that 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.800 draft was one of the more stranger drafts to start 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:52.480 a drafts like y'all, y'all had us stump like all right, now, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.120 so being so called insiders that we are, you know, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.560 somebody we tap in. We talked to a lot of people, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:03.920 you know, GM, coaches, agents, scouts, whatever. Right where y'all 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.959 had stuff? Is us or like, can you now that 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.319 we're some time or move can you shed light a 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.600 little bit light on like how everything went down? Was 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.800 he your guy all along? Was it really a last 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.720 minute decision? Like can you can you talk through that now? 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.240 Because now ultimately it looked like it was the definitely 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:24.080 the right decision. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.400 Well, I think everyone talked about it. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.760 There were so many options at that spot, you know, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.240 and I think ultimately there was just you know, there 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.200 was back and forth. There was you know, there was 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.800 studying of guys, information and whatnot, and like to the 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.200 credit of you know, the front office, they did a 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.760 great job of doing all the background of figuring out 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.200 exactly what was the right thing and right fit for 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.840 this team. And you know, he he's a special individual, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.440 you know, I mean he does so many things well 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.400 and who he is as a as a young man 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.760 is even is even greater. So I think there's just 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.679 a lot of factors that went into it. You know, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.440 I'm not going to give the secret sauce to what 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:04.120 went behind it. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.720 That's my way talking about it. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.720 So listen, that's why this group does such a great 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.440 job of in the selection of who you know, who 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.800 we who we pick up you know in the draft. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.400 Let me let me ask you this. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.480 So you guys are playing well, young guys will get 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:22.440 a lot of credit they do. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.240 They do a lot of work, heavy lifting. When you 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.439 look at this team. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.400 I try I try to like figure out, okay, who 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.719 would be considered the leader, who would be probably the 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.600 go to veteran leader. And obviously you know I got 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.000 Joe Ingles there, Gary Harris. But is there a locker 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.400 room presence where you have someone who's that designated leader 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:44.959 on the team? 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.040 Is there anybody identified as that? Or is it collective? 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.920 It's a collective. I mean it really is. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.640 Like one day it's Paulo, one day, it's Franz, one 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.920 day it's Joe, one day, it's Cole, one day it's 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:56.720 Moe Wagner. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.760 Like one day it's one Dal one day it's it's Jalen. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:04.000 Like these guys are so connected that no one takes 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.600 it personal and we all realize that it's about the team. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.480 How do we accomplish what we need to accomplish. I mean, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.280 you see our sideline, It's like they're celebrating each other 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.640 and that's the most beautiful thing to see. And it's 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.880 not even just about the offense. It's like we're celebrating 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.920 when we get stops and we get out and go. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:22.600 And that's who this team is. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.960 It's a partnership, it's a collective that and say it 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:26.680 over and over again. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.480 We continue to do it by committee on a nightly basis. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.480 You know, when you think about young teams out there, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.599 most people will say the blueprint if you're going to 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.080 go young is that you've got to have that designated 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.640 your Donna's Haslam or even a Vince Carter during this 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.360 hey day. I don't think you guys have somebody like that. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.160 So what's the secret if you're going to go young? Like, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.280 what do you think you need to have in place 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.080 to make sure the locker room is intact? 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.840 Like I said, Jeff and those guys did a phenomenal 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.640 job in his team. You have to draft you know, 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.400 the high character, you know the high basketball IQ and 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.480 each one of these guys in this locker room has 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.839 won at some level. And I think when you can 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.280 understand winning, you know what you're asked to do. And 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.720 so whether you were the guy that scored forty on 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.360 your college team or high school team, but you also 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.560 knew what winning took. Sometimes it's not scoring forty. Sometimes 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.040 it's scoring twenty two and giving ten assists and getting 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.120 a big rebound. That they can all understand that language. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.400 And again to the credit of us bringing all these 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.400 guys back, they understand the message of each one of 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.080 our coaches on what we're asking them to do. So 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.200 it's not like we're having to, you know, say a 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.360 different message to different guys coming in. They've heard it. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.560 And in that last run of our twenty nine and 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.120 twenty eight they heard what was being said, they felt 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.440 it being real because it was producing you know, wins, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.600 And our process never changed from the moment we were 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.920 you know, twenty two, you know, twenty two and sixty. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.960 You know, I think it hasn't changed since then to now. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.080 Before we get to Frondz in his partnership with Paolo, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.560 because obviously that's a huge element of your success, you 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.440 actually really early in this pod, you said that Joe 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.400 Ingles has changed our locker room? How has he done that? 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.400 And I mean, I guess he is the old head 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.640 at this point that you're kind of leaning on, So 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.120 explain that to us. How has he changed your locker room? 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.200 Well, by age and experience, he is the old head 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.680 in the locker room, but he he says the right things, 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.200 he lives the right things. And I think the guys 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.600 have played against him enough and heard how much trash 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.880 he talks, but is willing to back it up. And 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.840 then when he walks in the locker room, he's doing 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.560 the exact same thing. But it's all about winning. It's 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.880 all about getting the best out of guys. The way 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.360 he lives on and off the court, it's all it's true. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.760 And the guys recognize and feel and see that, and 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.160 they've seen his body of work. And so I think 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.360 when you've seen somebody do it that you respect, and 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.880 he's telling you this in the locker room, it makes 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.760 it a little bit easier to buy into what's being 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.720 said because it's also the same thing that each one 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:08.320 of our coaches are saying to these guys. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.680 He has quite the rep for trash talking. Does he 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:12.760 trash talk the coach? 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.640 He's not afraid and yeah he's talking. He's definitely talking 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.400 to the coaches too. But that's what who he is. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.040 You can't take away who he is, and you know, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.280 you embrace it and it's fun like this is this 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.720 is that group they have. We have fun with each other, 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.120 We communicate, we don't take each other, we don't. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.960 Take it so seriously. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.200 We get our work done and it's a great group 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.400 to be around every day. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.840 Coach, peel back the curtain a little bit. We know 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.280 some of the best trash talkers in the league. Joe 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.720 doesn't get a lot of exposure nationally for his trash talking. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.200 Can you give us a couple of trash token I 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.560 mean trash talking commentary from Joe ingles that you can share. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.640 So people might have said to a teammate opposing player, you, 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.680 is there anything that pops the head? 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.360 I specifically remember, and I won't give specific names, but 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.639 we were playing pick up when he first got here 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.639 and there was a turnover with one of the guys 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.480 and he started talking. You know, oh yeah, see, that's 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.000 what you're gonna do in the games. That's what you're 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.120 gonna do in the games, and so it got under 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.879 one of the players skin and next thing, you know, 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.560 it was like it was back and forth, back and forth. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.520 But what it did, and this is to players, but 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.840 they don't realize it now lifts up your competitive edge 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.520 and that's what was needed. And we already have guys 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.120 that are competitive, but he lifts that up even more 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.360 because now once you're under skin, now we're trying to go. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.720 And it was a beautiful thing to watch because that's 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.680 what this group is now showing. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.440 Even more so. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.840 So, as I mentioned before, Dirk Noovisky likes to tout 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.280 himself as president of your fan club and the reason 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.080 I mean your I think this was your first season 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.760 you coached against Steve Nash in Brooklyn. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.359 Yes, and he actually went to the game. A. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.800 I don't remember him going to many games that didn't 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.560 involve the Dallas Mavericks over the last twenty five years. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.320 And B I'm not so sure he wasn't rooting for 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.720 the Magic over his buddy Nash's net. 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.480 So that's quite a compliment to you. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.439 But he is also, of course a huge fan of 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.199 the Wagner Brothers, and he asked me he demanded that 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.320 I ask you about what it's like to coach those 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.679 two and Mo Wagner. I'm eternally a fan of his 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.199 because at that EuroBasket I mentioned he I was I 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.480 was stranded and he helped. He shared an uber with me, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.000 so he's he's you know, I will never I will 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.560 never forget that. But obviously Franz is the one who 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:48.160 gets the most notoriety. Tell us about coaching two brothers 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.760 and what what that's like, and obviously the way they've 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:51.800 impacted your team. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.080 They're about winning, you know, obviously saw what they did 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.360 this summer, and I think it's so great for them. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.560 They're about winning, They're about team. They're about figuring out 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:05.040 ways to just make everybody around him better. High basketball 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:09.520 IQs and just great character guys that they want to 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.000 do the right thing by those around them. You know, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.080 Mo is a guy that brings a ton of energy 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.960 to the team, but with a high basketball like you, 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.640 trying to figure out ways he can you know, get 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.000 teammates involved. Franz has obviously emerged, you know, as the 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:30.080 younger brother, but doing so many great things for this team, 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:35.080 just being able to score, pass, His defense this year 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.520 has been incredible. So I just think they just provide 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.720 so many things to this team. But it's all about 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.800 the team. That's the great part about both of them. 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.840 They just want to do whatever is necessary to help 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.520 this team keep rising. 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:52.000 I'm not sure ten fifteen years ago that you know, 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.800 we would have seen a team so willingly put the 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.160 ball in the hands of two forwards. 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:58.320 Like you guys have. 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.520 How quick did you see that Franz and Paolo were 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:03.840 gonna be able to play off each other? 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:08.040 So well, well, it happened early on, you know, in 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.480 the year when we had a bunch of injuries, and 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.040 so a lot of it was that they end up 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.359 having the ball in their hands and being able to 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.359 coach different guys that were, you know, point forwards in 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.439